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04:19:37  <superthebobfredm>good morning! :) anyone here
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05:10:34  <MimiEA>hello
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05:48:36  <anu_free>i added ext folder but it is not showing up in menu. An extension consists of js and package.json file. Thats it or do we need to add anywhere to get it enabled
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06:59:37  <anu_free>thanks very much for updating documentation for extension. It will help a lot people like me
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16:27:29  <Leemp>Anyone else having problems loading the ide at the moment?
16:27:50  <mattpardee_>leemp what's happening for you?
16:34:27  <Leemp>mattpardee: The project page was loading content (such as file contents, console output, etc) very very slowly
16:34:45  <Leemp>I F5'd and gave it some time, looks like it managed to load while i was afk
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16:52:52  <bmatusiak>hello guys
16:53:00  <mattpardee_>hey bmatusiak
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17:33:15  <Leeol>new nickname. So shiney.
17:42:31  <Leeol>mattpardee: But yea, c9 seems randomly laggy
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17:44:09  <Leeol>I have two c9 tabs open, and one just flashed offline heh
17:45:37  <Leeol>mattpardee: and now they're not loading files again (not complaining, just explaining.. since you inquired :P)
17:46:17  <Leeol>Now they loaded
17:46:59  <Leeol>I see this in both tabs "Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) ".. and a lot of errors, so hard to say which is the problem heh
17:47:12  <mattpardee_>which files is it not finding?
17:47:14  <mattpardee_>or which resource, rather?
17:48:14  <Leeol>mattpardee: "http://c9.io/leeolayvar/fenearplayer/workspace/lib/Untitled?xhr=1"
17:48:23  <Leeol>mattpardee: It was a new file
17:48:30  <Leeol>Though, the other tab was an *existing* file
17:48:39  <mattpardee_>if it can't find an existing file, that's a bug
17:48:47  <mattpardee_>but it purposely checks for new files
17:48:53  <mattpardee_>to title it appropriately
17:49:18  <Leeol>But for what it's worth, i created two new files (just now) and it's strugging to load them
17:49:25  <Leeol>The file list shows loading
17:49:41  <Leeol>and one of my files is attempting to save, with issues
17:49:42  <mattpardee_>what's your workspace URL?
17:49:50  <Leeol>mattpardee: http://c9.io/leeolayvar/fenearplayer
17:49:56  <Leeol>ack, i'm using the wrong name haha
17:50:24  <Leeol>On my screen it shows bin as attempting to load, and lib/index.coffee is attempting to save
17:50:25  <mattpardee_>where are you located again?
17:50:34  <Leeol>mattpardee_: Physically? WA
17:50:37  <mattpardee_>k
17:50:43  <Leeol>err.. dammit, i just moved.. Oregon hehe
17:50:47  <mattpardee_>hmm
17:50:58  <mattpardee_>it's performing fine for me
17:51:12  <mattpardee_>if you want to give me RW rights temporarily
17:51:14  <Leeol>Perhaps it's because i have two sessions open?
17:51:15  <mattpardee_>is the member list showing up?
17:51:24  <Leeol>Yes
17:51:38  <Leeol>I have noted, heavily, that c9 has issues when i have multiple tabs open
17:51:47  <Leeol>I thought it was working with the recent push
17:53:06  <Leeol>mattpardee_: Out of curiosty, does lib/index.coffee have any file contents?
17:53:21  <mattpardee_>please see cloud9 chat
17:58:37  <Leeol>mattpardee_: My chat might be bugging out
17:59:50  <Leeol>mattpardee_: I can't really see your chat
17:59:54  <mattpardee_>ok
17:59:56  <Leeol>mattpardee_: My gui is bugged
17:59:56  <mattpardee_>I have to run
18:00:02  <Leeol>k
18:00:04  <mattpardee_>please report any issues with screenshots to the usual places
18:00:05  <mattpardee_>thx!
18:00:10  <Leeol>k
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18:45:49  <ricklon>I found one issue about having students turn home work in by linking to Cloud9, they have to keep the URL publushed.
18:53:51  <mattpardee>hey ricklon, we're stipulating about what public URLs might mean in a student environment
18:53:56  <mattpardee>but what's the specific issue in your case?
18:54:40  <ricklon>Two cases, 1. I had create an xml file. Then turn the assignment in by providing the link to the xml file.
18:55:13  <ricklon>2. I had them create a form that was evaluated by a node.js script. Then submit the url to the form for the assignment hand in.
18:56:41  <ricklon>Sometimes, something like gist, or pastebin would work. Like in case 1.
18:57:00  <gjtorikian>Is the danger that the URL is public, and therefore other students can see it? Or that they need to keep the workspace active in the IDE for you to be able to see it ?
18:58:11  <ricklon>For me I'm not too worried about it being public, but they have to keep it active in the IDE for me to see it
19:00:23  <mattpardee>ok, I see
19:00:35  <mattpardee>so you need some kind of teacher mode
19:00:53  <mattpardee>instructor mode
19:01:00  <mattpardee>so you can have the ability to run their node apps
19:02:02  <mattpardee>because we were thinking, in case 1
19:02:25  <mattpardee>they can link to the previewed version of the file, which is always readable even if the workspace isn't active or in read-only mode (for public projects ofc)
19:02:52  <mattpardee>we're discussing here
19:08:29  <mattpardee>ricklon we think we have a good solution in this use-case
19:09:15  <mattpardee>one sec
19:13:41  <mattpardee>ricklon see private message
19:15:06  <ricklon>cool
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19:24:12  <ggoodman>ggoodman/plunker is the workspace in question
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19:36:19  <ggoodman>hey mattpardee, quick issue for you... seems that although my app is running, it remains inaccessible by the browser
19:36:49  <ggoodman>...as always ggoodman/plunker (aka, fly-paper)
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19:37:05  <ggoodman>knack for catching bugs
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19:53:56  <ggoodman>working again
19:55:04  <Leeol>I blame c9 for my problems earlier lol, i've gotten this 5 times today: "Command 'git' was not recognized" hehe
19:55:05  <ggoodman>...though my ide is out of sync w/ that fact :p
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20:04:22  <mAritz>Leeol: i got ": No such file or directory" when doing ./configure on a debian today. :D
20:04:29  <mAritz>(and yes, configure did exist
20:04:30  <mAritz>)
20:04:44  <Leeol>:P
20:08:33  <mattpardee>I've seen those issues
20:08:44  <mattpardee>they appear to happen after some time of using the workspace
20:09:17  <Leeol>Also, i have an issue of any async function i create, i always try to use it as if it was synchronous.
20:09:19  <Leeol><-- idiot
20:10:06  <ggoodman>mattpardee: I think it might be because I use the workspace from different computers and never close them off when I switch
20:10:41  <mattpardee>hmm interesting
20:10:51  <ggoodman>I now have a server process running that I can't kill which prevents a new server process from being run EADDRINUSE
20:11:10  <ggoodman>the ide does not reflect the fact that a b/g process is running and `stop` doesn't do anything
20:11:13  <mAritz>Leeol: maybe you should write wrappers around the stuff you use that does "rm -rf ../" every time you forget a callback? :P
20:11:26  <mattpardee>haha
20:11:41  <mattpardee>ggoodman I do think this is a big problem on our side
20:11:45  <Leeol>mAritz: But then i would just be even more confused.. This solves nothing!
20:11:56  <mattpardee>ggoodman do you have a premium account?
20:12:09  <mAritz>you can also output an elaborat error in big ascii images, but that's just boring
20:12:28  <mAritz>preferably in comic form, with dinosaurs
20:12:37  <ggoodman>mattpardee: sadly no
20:12:50  <ggoodman>mattpardee: despite consuming a disproportionate time of your debug time
20:14:24  * ggoodmanfeels a bit guilty about not upgrading
20:14:36  <ggoodman>just that I hardly have time to code :(
20:14:57  <Leeol>ggoodman: It's well worth it :)
20:15:21  <Leeol>Also, you can make private repos with horribly scary things in it, and see how long it takes the dev crew to notice what you put on their servers
20:15:28  <Leeol>>:)
20:15:43  <mattpardee>Sergi showed me how to SSH into user gears so I can quit processes manually
20:15:49  <mattpardee>but now he's back in Amsterdam
20:15:53  <Leeol>lol i just did an evil laugh. It was quite enjoyable.
20:15:53  <mattpardee>I mean he didn't show me I just watched him do it
20:16:01  <mattpardee>so I'll e-mail him and figure out what we can do
20:16:16  <mattpardee>in the future it'll be as simple as pinging me so I can manually quit the process, while we figure out why the IDE doesn't know about it
20:16:17  <mattpardee>or can't stop it
20:16:43  <Leeol>mattpardee: How is SSH working btw? Is it possible to SSH into a remote box *from* cloud9?
20:16:51  <mattpardee>Leeol yes, very possible
20:16:55  <mattpardee>and very, very awesome
20:16:57  <Leeol>Very nice
20:17:30  <Leeol>I'll have to set up permissions for that. It will be nice to not have to install KiTTY on someones machine if i need to SSH into something
20:19:08  <ggoodman>mattpardee: you're the man. thanks
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20:19:39  <ggoodman>oh what happened to cloudfoundry deploy support?
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20:49:55  <ricklon>The share options are: email, twitter, facebook. Can I just share by URL?
20:50:32  <mattpardee>ricklon for a workspace URL?
20:50:38  <mattpardee>you can just send that to someone
20:50:52  <ricklon>For a workspace
20:51:26  <ricklon>Send private URL?
20:51:29  <mattpardee>yeah you can just send the workspace URL to someone else
20:51:33  <mattpardee>if it's private they can request access
20:51:42  <mattpardee>and the request will show up in your member list
20:51:49  <mattpardee>then you can grant RW access, Read-only or Deny access
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21:01:22  <ricklon>I see simply chat with owner. The wner doesn't see me though
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21:21:17  <mattpardee>sorry I missed your last message
21:21:36  <mattpardee>ricklon what's the workspace URL? PM me if you want
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21:57:13  <ricklon>For some reason having a problem with PM
21:57:14  <ricklon>http://c9.io/zachpinner/assignment_2
21:59:22  <ricklon>Gotta go teach. I'll have the studenst send me urls and we'll see what happens.
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