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01:37:37  <schmichael_>hi all, is anyone active right now?
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02:24:31  <schmichael_>anybody home? :)
02:26:10  <mattpardee_>hello schmichael_
02:30:52  <schmichael_>hey matt
02:31:05  <schmichael_>how it going!
02:32:49  <mattpardee_>going well
02:32:54  <mattpardee_>nice sunday evening here in SF
02:33:52  <schmichael_>it's a pretty cold melbourne monday
02:35:19  <schmichael_>so first off i have a question about the ide: are the realtime tools not open source?
02:35:58  <mattpardee_>they're not
02:37:40  <schmichael_>would it be possible to utilise them in an academic capacity? either by agreement or some sort of fee?
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02:39:06  <frewsxcv>that's really lame, that they're not open source
02:39:20  <mattpardee_>schmichael_ sure, there might be some opportunities there
02:39:31  <mattpardee_>if you want you can e-mail me at [email protected] and describe your scenario
02:39:59  <mattpardee_>frewsxcv some of our tooling is closed source and eventually becomes open source
02:40:29  <schmichael_>great, the reason is we are trying out a new programming workshop "2.0" model here within a few small research groups at the Uni
02:40:30  <mattpardee_>many of our components that are essential to Cloud9 are open-source
02:40:55  <schmichael_>oh great, i will send you an email! :)
02:40:55  <mattpardee_>schmichael_ what uni?
02:41:01  <schmichael_>Uni of Melbourne
02:41:08  <mattpardee_>neat
02:41:16  <mattpardee_>I think one of our guys is heading down to Australia this year
02:41:30  <mattpardee_>two of us might actually be
02:41:41  <schmichael_>oh how fantastic!
02:42:15  <schmichael_>well, it would be great if you guys could visit melbourne, and hang out with us
02:42:39  <schmichael_>holiday, work, or both?
02:42:58  <mattpardee_>work
02:43:00  <mattpardee_>some conferences
02:43:13  <mattpardee_>but we would love to talk with you guys one-on-one if possible
02:43:26  <mattpardee_>we see cloud9's collaboration features as having huge potential in the classroom
02:43:33  <schmichael_>absolutely
02:43:58  <schmichael_>i have been looking around for around 3 months now for a solution like this
02:44:17  <mattpardee_>do you teach at the uni?
02:44:24  <schmichael_>i'm a PhD student
02:44:45  <frewsxcv>i'm a white male
02:44:57  <nol2ter_work>Yay!!
02:46:27  <mattpardee_>ah, excellent
02:46:27  <mattpardee_>frewsxcv neat!
02:46:43  <frewsxcv>thanks!
02:46:45  <frewsxcv>i'm proud
02:48:11  <schmichael_>frewsxcv you should also come to australia
02:48:33  <frewsxcv>lots of whities
02:49:15  <schmichael_>well we have lots of beaches
02:49:19  <schmichael_>and females
02:49:29  <frewsxcv>beaches are garbage
02:49:51  <frewsxcv>piles of rocks next to saltwater
02:50:07  <schmichael_>umm, not really..
02:52:54  <mattpardee_>the tension in here is palpable.
02:52:54  <mattpardee_>looks like I picked the wrong day to quit drinkin'
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05:37:07  <schmichael_>does anyone know how to enable a language mode in the menu in c9?
05:37:30  <schmichael_>(for a locally hosted install)
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12:39:31  <gero3>anyone here from the devs??
12:40:06  <gero3>Error: ssh process died with exit code 255 is what I get when I try to open project gero3/cloud9test
12:40:20  <gero3>mattpardee, zefhemel
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12:47:22  <gero3>anyone??
13:02:27  <gero3>seems to be solved now
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15:29:46  <SonarBeserk>does anyone here know why files in cloud 9 like to close and when you reopen them they are blank?
15:30:45  <mattpardee>SonarBeserk on c9.io?
15:30:55  <SonarBeserk>yes
15:31:25  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: yes
15:31:25  <mattpardee>this is usually the result of some connection issue or a state mismatch from client to server
15:31:35  <mattpardee>does it close on refresh?
15:31:41  <mattpardee>and then when you open it again it's empty
15:32:01  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: it randomly closes and when i reopen the file it is blank
15:32:07  <mattpardee>hmm
15:32:15  <mattpardee>ok that's different
15:32:21  <mattpardee>and weird
15:32:41  <mattpardee>is anyone else collaborating on the project with you
15:33:05  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: one other person and they havent done anything
15:34:04  <mattpardee>what's the project URL?
15:34:15  <mattpardee>maybe I'll keep it open too and see what happens
15:34:17  <mattpardee>if you don't mind
15:34:57  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: https://c9.io/sonarbeserk/welcomeplugin
15:35:09  <SonarBeserk>it closes and reopens windows randomly
15:35:52  <mattpardee>ok I have 4 files open
15:36:10  <mattpardee>and I'm watching the developer console
15:36:19  <mattpardee>let me know here if you see a file close and I'll see if it closed on my end too
15:40:24  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: something to note was i was mostly seeing it after my collab partner was disconnecting and reconnecting pretty bad
15:40:34  <mattpardee>aha
15:40:44  <mattpardee>I suspected it had something to do with collaboration
15:41:06  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: that seems like a pretty bad bug though
15:41:22  <mattpardee>sure, I would label it as blocking
15:41:34  <mattpardee>it will be difficult to reproduce but there are network simulation tools that will help
15:41:41  <mattpardee>can you create an issue for this?
15:41:48  <mattpardee>github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/issues/new
15:42:57  <SonarBeserk>hmmm also mattpardee know why pushing to github shows up tremendously later?
15:43:38  <mattpardee>hmm I'm not sure
15:43:48  <mattpardee>it's usually instant for me
15:44:57  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: i did some stuff with a clone of mine and commits showed up like an hour later
15:45:12  <mattpardee>an hour? wow
15:46:10  <mattpardee>in cloud9 it will show you output from the remote server
15:46:14  <mattpardee>when you do git push origin master
15:46:14  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: do you normally push or commit?
15:46:15  <mattpardee>for example
15:46:35  <mattpardee>well they're two separate things, so I use both
15:46:57  <mattpardee>I use git push all the time to deploy to heroku and openshift, for example
15:47:01  <mattpardee>so I know they work instantly
15:47:06  <mattpardee>I've never had a problem with that actually
15:48:55  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: well since it works for you what are the steps to push an update to the code?
15:49:07  <mattpardee>so I make some change to the code
15:49:12  <mattpardee>then in the console I type
15:49:15  <SonarBeserk>it is probally me doing it wrong :(
15:49:41  <mattpardee>git commit -am "Refactored the hoobity poopity to be more modular"
15:49:48  <mattpardee>then depending on where I want to push,
15:49:50  <mattpardee>git push origin master
15:49:53  <mattpardee>git push heroku master
15:49:55  <mattpardee>git push openshift master
15:49:56  <mattpardee>etc
15:51:10  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: is .c9revisions something you just have to live with having?
15:51:38  <mattpardee>well, we hope it is useful :)
15:51:48  <mattpardee>it's the storage point for our file revisions functionality
15:51:53  <SonarBeserk>hmmm
15:52:09  <SonarBeserk>are you one of the devs?
15:52:29  <mattpardee>you can activate the Revisions by going to File -> File Revision History
15:52:35  <SonarBeserk>i get that feel from the way you said that
15:52:40  <mattpardee>and if you want to ignore that folder just put it in your .gitignore
15:52:49  <mattpardee>yeah I'm one of the devs and the evangelist
15:53:28  <SonarBeserk>hmmm did cloud9 take a while to make once technology was far enough?
15:54:03  <mattpardee>well, it's taking a while
15:54:06  <mattpardee>still :-P
15:55:21  <SonarBeserk>hows the available offline coming along?
15:56:07  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: well my files just closed
15:56:49  <mattpardee>ok
15:56:59  <mattpardee>the dev team will look at the issue ASAP
15:57:57  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: reopening the project fixes it but it likes to crash sometimes. might be an issue of having too many of the project open and them interfering
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16:35:07  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: is it possible to integrate eclipse and cloud9 together?
16:35:22  <mattpardee>SonarBeserk how do you mean?
16:35:58  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: to use cloud9 but still have all the features of eclipse that like to suggest imports?
16:36:12  <mattpardee>we're working on that actually :)
16:36:17  <mattpardee>Java support
16:37:01  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: :D
16:56:41  <SonarBeserk>mattpardee: someone i know's workspace is looking like this http://puu.sh/N3uh
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19:33:42  <ggoodman>hey guys, I seem to have a bunch of hung processes that can't be quit through the IDE :-S... can anyone help me out? /cc mattpardee ;-)
19:35:47  <ggoodman>node process appears running in the ide, but is inaccessible by the web and cannot be stopped
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20:40:08  <ggoodman>wtfbbq; getting permission denied when I try to commit in c9
20:42:49  <gjtorikian>git is throwing that at you?
20:43:05  <ggoodman>yes
20:43:35  <gjtorikian>perchance are you committing a shell script or something else along those lines ?
20:44:15  <ggoodman>nope
20:44:59  <ggoodman>I'm committing files added via drag and drop upload though
20:45:20  <ggoodman>that's the only unusual thing iirc
20:48:27  <gjtorikian>i wonder if the perms for those files are being restricted somehow
20:51:10  <ggoodman>kinda frustrating
20:51:37  <gjtorikian>I know, sorry about that
20:51:51  <gjtorikian>I'm trying to change the perms on my files and git commit 'em, and it seems to be working
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