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06:10:23  <anu_free>hello, i installed cloud9 successfully on my local machine. But sometimes when i open it, it says "Session Id missing". Why this is happening?
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06:11:29  <schmichael__>anu_free:i get this too!
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06:12:00  <schmichael__>but it still seems to work OK once you dismiss the error, right?
06:12:36  <anu_free>schmichael__: So what should be done to remove this error?
06:13:05  <schmichael__>i dont know :$
06:13:34  <schmichael__>i've just stopped worrying about it, since it doesn't seem to affect any functionality as far as i can tell
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12:29:02  <mAritz>any idea when keyboard shortcut customization (outside of modifying the files in my clone) will be in? ctrl+[/] doesn't work for me (and is really awkward to type on the german layout)
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12:39:56  <Chip_Zero>mAritz: control+/ is pretty standard. maybe an additional keybinding should be added for it? adding UI for keybindings is not a top priority atm, but avoiding local keybinding problems is something we try to pay attention to
12:41:53  <mAritz>uh, i meant ctrl+[ and ctrl+] ;)
12:42:49  <mAritz>Chip_Zero: because for [ and ] in the german layout you need to press altgr+8 and altgr+9 respectively. thus it becomes ctrl+altgr+8 to get to the next tab
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12:43:31  <mAritz>which at least for me requires some hardcore thumb bending if i want to press the 8 with my index finger
12:43:37  <Chip_Zero>I'm so glad I just have a US keyboard :o
12:43:53  <mAritz>and it also doesn't work for some reason :D
12:44:51  <mAritz>well, i could switch and i even know the position of most special characters on the US layout but not all. also: i'd have to swtich back every time a co-worker wants to use my keyboard.
12:45:36  <Chip_Zero>yeah, let's not do that
12:45:55  <Chip_Zero>are you on Windows or Linux? what keybinding do you use in other applications for this?
12:46:09  <mAritz>Chip_Zero: also: is there a shortcut for switching focus from the project files tab to the editor? i tried tabbing, but that doesn't work
12:46:14  <mAritz>i'm on windows
12:46:48  <mAritz>well, the default for most applications i've seen is ctrl+tab
12:47:00  <mAritz>some do ctrl+pageup/down
12:48:41  <Chip_Zero>I don't think so. in general, the github issue tracker is the best place for these things, btw :)
12:49:09  <mAritz>yeah, i just love the instand feedback matt gives me here most of the time :D
12:49:19  <mAritz>*instnat
12:49:21  <mAritz>asdohnaibga
12:49:23  <mAritz>*instant
12:49:25  <mAritz>there
12:55:43  <Chip_Zero>btw, your browser probably uses ctrl+tab already, doesn't it? :)
12:57:31  <mAritz>yes
12:57:45  <mAritz>ctrl+pageup/down as well
12:57:53  <mAritz>not sure if the latter can be preventDefaulted
12:58:17  <mAritz>https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/issues/2033
12:58:25  <mAritz>https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/issues/2032
12:59:36  <Chip_Zero>thanks for posting
13:00:07  <Chip_Zero>I think stealing the tab changing keys would be Bad, even if it is possible. any good alternatives?
13:01:43  <mAritz>https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/issues/2034
13:02:22  <Chip_Zero>yes, that's an annoying regression, someone's working on that
13:03:05  <mAritz>well, if you want to do locale based layouts the equivalent position to the us layouts [] are ΓΌ and + in the german layout :D
13:03:16  <mAritz>ok, did a quick search through the issues and didn't find it
13:03:36  <Chip_Zero>yeah, it's in the internal tracker, no problem :)
13:04:09  <mAritz>Chip_Zero: got another one where the open file/quick outline popup is very small vertically and generally behaves wrong after entering a search that doesn't get any results
13:05:09  <mAritz>can only fix that by reloading the page. closing the overlay and pressing ctrl+e again doesn't fix it.
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13:05:44  <mAritz>(it dosen't break on wrong inputs from the quick outline. but if the open file breaks, the quick outline breaks as well)
13:06:13  <mAritz>want a gh-issue for that? :)
13:06:21  <mAritz>(i'd provide a screenshot)
13:06:42  <Chip_Zero>no I don't think so. if you can describe how to reproduce that, that would be very useful
13:07:58  <mAritz>here in irc?
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13:10:20  <mAritz>http://i.imgur.com/7Qlxm.png
13:10:27  <Chip_Zero>well, probably in an issue :) but I'd like to know about it too, since I implemented the outline view
13:10:30  <mAritz>type a file that exists and mistype
13:11:08  <mAritz>so, typing "grunt_" is still fine, but then "f" (there's no file starting with "grunt_f" in my project) it gets like that
13:12:57  <mAritz>hm, interesting. immediately hitting backspace after the f fixes it. but when pressing escape instead of backspace and then ctrl+e it's still in broken.
13:13:13  <mAritz>-in
13:17:55  <mAritz>hm, some other actions appear to fix it as well
13:18:39  <mAritz>but only sometimes
13:18:41  <mAritz>errm... :/
13:21:02  <mAritz>Chip_Zero: https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/issues/2035 really vague and weird :D
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13:40:27  <Chip_Zero>mAritz: ok, well, thanks for looking into it!
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14:37:42  <mAritz>Chip_Zero: hm, should the file opener maybe ignore the .c9revisions directory?!
14:43:01  <Chip_Zero>mAritz: hm, yeah, it should
14:43:16  <Chip_Zero>passing it on
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