00:03:45  <ReadError>also im trying to install it locally on one of my servers
00:03:51  <ReadError>and am getting the public key error
00:04:02  <ReadError>i see you disabled it for someone else in my google searches
00:07:40  <ReadError>let me try generating one and adding it to github
00:09:26  <niggler>using the ide, is it possible to move a folder up a directory? Im noticing issues with the github version
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22:29:48  <niggler>dumb question: should 'break' in javascript be highlighted?
22:31:34  <gjtorikian>not a dumb question; it should
22:31:55  <gjtorikian>it varies by theme, though, and that's kind of out of our control, since the theme designer decides (for the most part) colors that are shown
22:32:07  <gjtorikian>for example, looking at Monokai, I see it highlighted
22:32:33  <niggler>what's the default theme from the github tree?
22:33:08  <gjtorikian>what do you mean, the github tree ? a file like this? https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/blob/master/plugins-client/ext.autosave/autosave.js
22:33:38  <niggler>i meant
22:33:46  <niggler>i just cloned from github and started it up
22:33:49  <niggler>i didnt select a theme
22:34:07  <gjtorikian>oh, the default is textmate, i believe
22:34:22  <niggler>yep its textmate
22:34:28  <niggler>hehe view -> themes
22:34:35  <niggler>yeah that theme doesnt seem to pick up on break
22:36:01  <gjtorikian>hmm, that actually looks like a bug, perhaps a regression, since the ace editor picks up break on textmate: http://ace.ajax.org/build/kitchen-sink.html
22:36:21  <gjtorikian>in fact….none of the themes are picking it up
22:36:35  <niggler>likewise, i dont see that other theme pick up on it
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22:37:15  <gjtorikian>i'll log a bug, something is interfering somewhere
22:37:28  <niggler>hehe the niggler strikes again
22:38:25  <niggler>what bugtracker do you use (just curious)?
22:38:30  <gjtorikian>GitHub Issues
22:38:34  <gjtorikian>but we have a public facing and private facing
22:38:53  <niggler>how does it compare to something like fogbugz
22:39:10  <gjtorikian>i don't know, i've no experience with fogbugz
22:39:15  <gjtorikian>only fog. and bugs. but neever two at once
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22:45:12  <niggler>also, any plan for .md markdown support?
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22:45:18  <mattpardee>we have it
22:46:29  <niggler>take that back -- in the textmate theme the code isnt particular distinguishable from plaintext
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22:50:23  <gjtorikian>I think that one might be by design--when i look at, for example, textmate's implementation, it also does no differentiation
22:50:27  <gjtorikian>though i agree we should do better
22:50:35  <gjtorikian>maybe provide an opaque background
22:55:54  <niggler>is there a way to do what vim does if you enable syntax? In particular, for markdown it highlights the header with the same color
22:59:19  <gjtorikian>I don't know enough about vim to say; but if you go to View -> Terminals, you can launch a new terminal and open up VIM yourself :)
23:02:56  <niggler>now im not sure if this is a bug or some quirk with my setup, but i have a Makefile at the root and the project files shows a Makefile folder with a file called Makefile
23:05:37  <niggler>along the same lines, is there plan for makefile syntax support
23:10:02  <gjtorikian>at the moment, no, but I just created a request for it: https://github.com/ajaxorg/ace/issues/1024
23:10:36  <niggler>'why not' seems like a pretty sad defense of makefile support
23:10:48  <gjtorikian>them's the breaks
23:10:49  <gjtorikian>:)
23:11:06  <niggler>there are more exotic stuff like .l/.y lex/yacc but i won't ask :)
23:12:02  <gjtorikian>i've never seen a proper .y highlighter actually
23:12:09  <gjtorikian>i did some work with Jison, a JS port of Bison
23:12:14  <gjtorikian>and it was kind of a pane
23:12:27  <niggler>jison leaves much to be desire
23:12:51  <gjtorikian>*paon
23:12:54  <gjtorikian>*pain
23:12:56  <niggler>heh
23:13:06  <niggler>but it can produce something that works for simple grammars
23:13:29  <niggler>in fact, you don't need complete highlighting
23:13:41  <niggler>what I care about, more than anything else (which vim does really well)
23:13:50  <niggler>is noting if you put spaces instead of a tab
23:13:55  <niggler>makefile too
23:14:30  <gjtorikian>like, a warning, or ... ?
23:14:34  <gjtorikian>you can show invisble characters currently
23:14:41  <gjtorikian>so -> for tab
23:17:02  <niggler>oh the default for tab is to inject spaces?
23:17:27  <niggler>nvm i see it now
23:17:54  <niggler>ok so here's my confusion and maybe there's a setting i need to change
23:18:02  <niggler>if i hit tab with soft tabs enabled, it inserts spaces
23:18:16  <niggler>but if i hit left arrow to go back, it seems to jump to the previous indent level
23:18:29  <niggler>is there a way to literally go back a single space?
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23:31:56  <gjtorikian>man you are just racking up the bugs today: https://github.com/ajaxorg/ace/issues/1025
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