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| <substack> | time to lurk, absorbing leveldb wisdom |
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| <substack> | leveldb seems like a really important tool for killing framework-thinking |
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| <thl0> | juliangruber: hey - I see you worked on sublevel |
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| <thl0> | wondering I could break API relating to sep |
| 01:21:44
| <thl0> | ideally that would be an opts thing, so I can set valueEncoding as well |
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| <thl0> | otherwise I gotta do the if(typeof x == 'string') ... dance |
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| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/jsonquery>: MongoDB query language implemented as a node.js Stream (@nharbour) |
| 02:10:39
| <rvagg> | ya, sublevel needs way more tests to make sure it's api-compatible with levelup |
| 02:10:47
| <rvagg> | encodings is the biggest pain point for me too |
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| <thl0> | rvagg: currently working on a PR to make mixed encodings (one per sub) work |
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| <thl0> | I wanna break the API though since right now it passes sep (a string), but needs to be an options object |
| 02:53:20
| <thl0> | rvagg: do you think domenictarr would object (no pun intended) |
| 02:53:21
| <thl0> | ? |
| 02:53:51
| <rvagg> | I think dominic likes to break things, so if you have a good reason to break it then go ahead |
| 02:54:09
| <thl0> | I do |
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| <rvagg> | you can do a: if (typeof options == 'string') { options = { sep: options } } |
| 02:54:40
| <thl0> | otherwise I have to do this stupid typeof string dance, but you wanna use opts anyways when you pass multiple things |
| 02:54:45
| <rvagg> | heh! |
| 02:54:49
| <thl0> | yeah, but that's so ugly |
| 02:54:55
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| 02:55:00
| <rvagg> | as long as you have good tests for it |
| 02:55:26
| <thl0> | also not needed, cuz why would you just pass sep separately if you have an opts thing? |
| 02:55:38
| <rvagg> | backward compatibility |
| 02:55:40
| <thl0> | I'll adapt the tests to that api |
| 02:55:45
| <rvagg> | but, I doubt anyone's using that directly anyway |
| 02:55:56
| <thl0> | well, the sep param is nowher documented |
| 02:56:27
| <thl0> | and then there is this: https://github.com/dominictarr/level-sublevel#stability |
| 02:57:04
| <thl0> | rather break it now to get clean api going forward - also I tried to do the dance for a bit, but it propagates to too many places |
| 02:57:23
| <thl0> | in sub.js and index.js - not nice, so I aborted that |
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| <thl0> | dominictarr: in order to make that valueEncoding PR on levelup is it ok to break API? |
| 11:32:48
| <thl0> | i.e. the sep is a string, but I'd need opts |
| 11:33:17
| <thl0> | otherwise if backward compat is important I can do the if (typeof opts == string) thing |
| 11:33:26
| <dominictarr> | break it. |
| 11:33:39
| <thl0> | cool, less ugly code then :) |
| 11:33:46
| <dominictarr> | totally |
| 11:34:10
| <dominictarr> | maybe throw a helpful error, though, so it's easier to fix old code |
| 11:34:11
| <rvagg> | see, he's a breaker |
| 11:34:26
| <thl0> | rvagg: :) |
| 11:34:39
| <dominictarr> | when a project is young, you should break stuff while you still can |
| 11:35:05
| <dominictarr> | otherwise you'll have loads of weird artifacts when it's mature |
| 11:35:14
| <thl0> | that's how I feel too, just wanted to get your blessing |
| 11:35:33
| <thl0> | told rvagg last night: rather break it now to get clean api going forward |
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| <dominictarr> | mbalho: you there? |
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| <thl0> | dominictarr: should readStream auto parse JSON to objects before emitting 'data' when valueEncoding is 'json'? |
| 13:38:00
| <thl0> | or just emit the value as a string? - I know .get auto parses |
| 13:39:33
| <thl0> | dominictarr: wondering cause I'm passing { valueEncoding: 'json' } to r.createReadStream |
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| <thl0> | dominictarr: but honestly - these streams in sublevel seem a bit broken to me, i.e. a value stream doesn't just return value, etc. - will look into that as well |
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| <mbalho> | dominictarr: yo |
| 14:21:11
| <dominictarr> | hey, whats up |
| 14:21:26
| <dominictarr> | planning on getting the tacodb stuff up today |
| 14:21:30
| <mbalho> | w00t |
| 14:22:03
| <mbalho> | dominictarr: i dont remember, is there a way to sync from browser to node yet? |
| 14:22:17
| <dominictarr> | not yet, but that will be next |
| 14:22:35
| <dominictarr> | oh, yeah, does levelup work in the browser yet? |
| 14:22:46
| <dominictarr> | from looking at your tests, seems like it needs a bit more? |
| 14:22:49
| <mbalho> | dominictarr: halfway, the test suite is currently only running in node |
| 14:23:43
| <dominictarr> | aha, right - I was looking into testing my level-* stuff in the browser too, but it needed some work... |
| 14:23:48
| <mbalho> | dominictarr: the only thing level.js needs is a chained batch implementation |
| 14:24:03
| <dominictarr> | so, it works, but there are no tests? |
| 14:24:12
| <mbalho> | dominictarr: i have only tested a few methods |
| 14:25:29
| <mbalho> | dominictarr: it would be great to make the levelup tests generic, the basic approach i took with leveldown was to export all test functions and have them take in the `test` function, so in browser it gets tape and in node it gets tap |
| 14:25:49
| <dominictarr> | I started on a module for it, level-test |
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| <dominictarr> | google street view needs wsad + mlook |
| 14:28:30
| <dominictarr> | mbalho: streetview -> voxel.js! |
| 14:29:47
| <dominictarr> | surely you can scrap all that out somehow... |
| 14:29:52
| <mbalho> | oh yea i had that idea |
| 14:29:59
| <mbalho> | side by side though |
| 14:30:08
| <mbalho> | the app would be: a 3d open street ma |
| 14:30:09
| <mbalho> | p |
| 14:30:14
| <dominictarr> | gotta go, bbaib |
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| 14:30:26
| <mbalho> | where you log on and go to your neighborhood in streetview and then start modelling the buildings in voxel.js |
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| <thl0> | rvagg: how is key encoding 'json' treated? |
| 15:01:27
| <thl0> | in levelup |
| 15:01:43
| <thl0> | i.e. what would my keys look like ({ key: 'the key'}) ? |
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| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-js>: leveldown/leveldb library for browsers using IndexedDB (@maxogden) |
| 15:57:15
| <brycebaril> | that was fast :) |
| 15:57:31
| <mbalho> | brycebaril: caught me at a good time |
| 15:57:53
| <mbalho> | brycebaril: i still need to implement the chained batch api in level.js though |
| 15:58:13
| <mbalho> | brycebaril: and also convert the levelup tests to work in a browser in the same way that the abstract-leveldown tests run in node + browser |
| 15:58:20
| <mbalho> | brycebaril: if any of that stuff sounds fun then have a go! |
| 15:58:43
| <brycebaril> | Yeah, I'm not using it, so that particular hole hasn't hit me. If I end up missing it I'll take a poke |
| 15:58:45
| <brycebaril> | :) |
| 15:59:19
| <brycebaril> | (the chained batch api that is) |
| 16:11:33
| <thl0> | dominictarr: hey looks like we are working on same thing |
| 16:12:12
| <thl0> | dominictarr: I just fixed key/value in sublevel and also a bunch of other props that weren't propagating to levelup |
| 16:12:39
| <dominictarr> | key value streams? |
| 16:12:55
| <thl0> | i.e. readKeys, readValues |
| 16:12:57
| <dominictarr> | oh, yeah…. that has been fixed 3 times now... |
| 16:13:01
| <thl0> | shoot |
| 16:13:08
| <dominictarr> | in paralelle :( :( :( |
| 16:13:14
| <thl0> | I just fixed it along with my valueEncoding fix |
| 16:13:24
| <thl0> | cause that had to passed down as well |
| 16:13:35
| <thl0> | so this will totally conflict |
| 16:14:13
| <thl0> | dominictarr: looked through the fix, but it is kinda short sighted since it only worries about values/keys to be true or false |
| 16:14:41
| <thl0> | mine takes care of all other props (including encoding as well) |
| 16:15:17
| <thl0> | so to merge this on top of these fixes after 0.4.5 makes no sense |
| 16:15:56
| <dominictarr> | are you looking at the current code in master? |
| 16:16:04
| <thl0> | dominictarr: do you want me to just PR based on 0..4.5? |
| 16:16:04
| <thl0> | yep |
| 16:16:18
| <thl0> | sorry 4.6.5 |
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| <thl0> | dominictarr: https://github.com/thlorenz/level-sublevel/commit/09cf2dbb520201f0339855ca4d6ad24186fac63f |
| 16:18:38
| <thl0> | this is based on 4.6.5 though |
| 16:19:02
| <dominictarr> | can you merge it with the latest? |
| 16:19:26
| <thl0> | makes no sense, since key/value fixes have to be based on that to make sense |
| 16:19:28
| <thl0> | i.e. https://github.com/thlorenz/level-sublevel/commit/85708ad77488b6c606249c158f27242ff6dded0d |
| 16:19:59
| <thl0> | by merging, I'd probably undo a lot of the original key/value fixes |
| 16:20:48
| <thl0> | dominictarr: see in the last commit how easy it was to fix key/value after proper options propagation was in place |
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| <thl0> | dominictarr: and then fixing other missing options is trivial https://github.com/thlorenz/level-sublevel/commit/59b0c6611405f1121830f4933342ae48cf9ec5a2 |
| 16:22:44
| <thl0> | so not sure how best to do this since the approaches are totally conflicting, i.e. current key/value fixes get in the way to do this properly in order to allow encoding to be fixed as well |
| 16:22:54
| <dominictarr> | why not just copy all the options? then you won't have to change that code if options are added |
| 16:23:14
| <thl0> | dominictarr: I tried to just xtend them, but that caused some tests to fail |
| 16:23:35
| <thl0> | I'm not sure why, seems like some of these options caused problems |
| 16:23:54
| <thl0> | that's why I merge selectively, but you can try to just xtend there and see |
| 16:24:32
| <thl0> | but we could figure out what causes problems and use a blacklist instead of a whitelist |
| 16:24:33
| <dominictarr> | it's probably because of start, end, and min max |
| 16:24:51
| <dominictarr> | that is all gonna change when we go to lt gt lte gte |
| 16:25:05
| <dominictarr> | okay, I'll just take your pr for now |
| 16:25:08
| <thl0> | ok, so we'll put some of these on the black list or leave it for now if it's gonna change |
| 16:25:41
| <thl0> | so I base it on 4.6.5 or how do we do this (you want me to just PR knowing it's gonna conflict)? |
| 16:26:06
| <dominictarr> | just leave it for now |
| 16:26:29
| <dominictarr> | just merge with the current master, and make sure the test pass |
| 16:26:35
| <dominictarr> | I don't care about rebase |
| 16:27:02
| <thl0> | dominictarr: ok, but I'll end up undoing a bunch of code that's conflicting, (i.e. fixes that are no longer needed) |
| 16:27:23
| <thl0> | also it will end up with tests that test the same thing |
| 16:32:38
| <dominictarr> | lots of tests are okay! |
| 16:32:57
| <dominictarr> | the rest is just the price of working in parallel |
| 16:49:49
| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-static>: use leveldb as a static file server (@dominictarr) |
| 16:54:53
| <thl0> | dominictarr: I merged on top of master, all tests pass: https://github.com/dominictarr/level-sublevel/pull/13 |
| 16:55:28
| <thl0> | you should prob. squash, I just wanted to leave the history for easier review |
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| <thl0> | dominictarr: only thing left to do is figure make writeStream work with mixed encodings and allow mixed keyEncodings |
| 16:58:12
| <thl0> | I didn't get to that yet, but main thing we needed was diff. valueEncodings that work on batch and such |
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| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-live-stream>: Stream live changes from levelup. (@dominictarr) |
| 18:08:20
| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-live-stream>: Stream live changes from levelup. (@dominictarr) |
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| <mbalho> | i think i corrupted indexeddb in my app.... |
| 19:25:55
| <mbalho> | i get "Internal error creating database backend for indexeddb.open." |
| 19:25:58
| <mbalho> | AWESOME |
| 19:26:39
| <mbalho> | works in incognito tab, throws that error in normal tab |
| 19:26:44
| <mbalho> | [email protected] |
| 19:30:12
| <thl0> | dominictarr: is that PR ok? |
| 19:30:30
| <dominictarr> | yes, I'll merge it after I get something to eat |
| 19:31:08
| <dominictarr> | but can you do it again? |
| 19:31:13
| <dominictarr> | mbalho: |
| 19:31:25
| <thl0> | dominictarr: cool, just wanted to make sure you are ok with it |
| 19:32:12
| <thl0> | dominictarr: you mean do the PR again? it's still pending not sure what you mean |
| 19:32:21
| <dominictarr> | no, I was talking tomax |
| 19:32:21
| <mbalho> | dominictarr: hi |
| 19:32:36
| <thl0> | dominictarr: got it :) cool then |
| 19:32:36
| <dominictarr> | I was just congratulating you for breaking chrome |
| 19:32:54
| <mbalho> | yea i should win some sort of award from google |
| 19:33:06
| <dominictarr> | free pair of google glasses |
| 19:33:40
| <mbalho> | free foot massage from malte |
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| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-js>: leveldown/leveldb library for browsers using IndexedDB (@maxogden) |
| 20:18:20
| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-js>: leveldown/leveldb library for browsers using IndexedDB (@maxogden) |
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| <mbalho> | damn indexeddb is pretty brittle |
| 21:18:26
| <mbalho> | i get weird errors if i open the same database multiple times |
| 21:18:41
| <mbalho> | which may be a result of leveldbs single threadedness but i would imagine indexeddb reuses the connection |
| 21:18:45
| <mbalho> | but its apparently buggy |
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| <dominictarr> | thl0: have you ever used the sep option in sublevel? |
| 21:43:52
| <dominictarr> | db.sublevel(name, sep) ? |
| 21:44:03
| <thl0> | dominictarr: no, but I'm only using it for about a week |
| 21:44:25
| <thl0> | so not the right person to ask ;), but it wasn't documented, so I doubt people were overriding it much |
| 21:44:27
| <dominictarr> | also: juliangruber hij1nx chapel |
| 21:44:51
| <dominictarr> | just deciding whether to publish a new major version |
| 21:44:57
| <thl0> | dominictarr: otherwise we could put either a warning console.error or we check for typeof string |
| 21:45:03
| <dominictarr> | I think I only used it in a few tests |
| 21:45:07
| <thl0> | and adjust it |
| 21:45:17
| <thl0> | I changed all of them - weren't too many |
| 21:45:34
| <dominictarr> | make it throw, with an error that tells them to post an issue and tell me that they actually where using it |
| 21:45:58
| <dominictarr> | or, http post... |
| 21:46:43
| <dominictarr> | I grepped all my code, and I never actually used it outside of the sublevel tests. |
| 21:46:59
| <thl0> | you want me to attach that to the current PR or make another one? |
| 21:47:17
| <thl0> | I mean it's fairly easy like a one liner in like two or three places |
| 21:47:20
| <dominictarr> | I'll just put in a check and then remove it in the next version |
| 21:47:36
| <thl0> | cool, so you are good - nothing you need from me? |
| 21:49:56
| <dominictarr> | levelbot, |
| 21:49:56
| <thl0> | dominictarr: btw are keys in level (utf8) case sensitive? |
| 21:50:03
| <dominictarr> | yes |
| 21:50:20
| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-sublevel>: Separate sections of levelup, with hooks! (@dominictarr) |
| 21:50:21
| <dominictarr> | it's just a bytewise comparison |
| 21:50:43
| <thl0> | ok, weird, my .pre only gets called once with some value in the middle (happens to be 'Admin' where there is also 'admin') |
| 21:52:23
| <thl0> | when I use another dataset that doesn't have this kind of duplicate it works as expected -- odd |
| 21:53:25
| <thl0> | dominictarr: thanks for landing this I truly needed it \0/ |
| 21:54:47
| <dominictarr> | that is a very strange error, can you reproduce it? |
| 21:55:41
| <thl0> | hard to do, but btw just stored about 8000 npm users in under 7 secs including indexing |
| 21:56:32
| <dominictarr> | but if it's just admin Admin then you can make a tiny test case. |
| 21:56:51
| <dominictarr> | thl0: rvagg check this out… |
| 21:56:52
| <dominictarr> | https://travis-ci.org/dominictarr/level-sublevel/jobs/7647128 |
| 21:57:42
| <dominictarr> | looks like a non deterministic fail |
| 21:58:00
| <thl0> | dominictarr: this looks like it's the problem: '/tmp/test-streams-sublevel-key-value/000001.dbtmp' |
| 21:58:08
| <thl0> | No such file or directory |
| 21:58:21
| <dominictarr> | I have never seen that before |
| 21:59:02
| <dominictarr> | never mind, it just broke locally |
| 21:59:36
| <thl0> | dominictarr: weird, why is it not breaking in 0.8? |
| 21:59:49
| <thl0> | could it be related to streams? |
| 22:00:15
| <dominictarr> | sometimes it breaks, sometimes it works |
| 22:02:01
| <thl0> | looks like the db file is being removed prematurely at times |
| 22:03:16
| <thl0> | dominictarr: could it be that these lines are reversed? https://github.com/dominictarr/level-sublevel/blob/master/test/streams-sublevel-key-value.js#L1-L2 |
| 22:03:34
| <thl0> | i.e. rimraf is sometimes slower than the db creation? |
| 22:03:50
| <thl0> | i.e. it gets created and then removed right away if rimraf is too slow? |
| 22:04:01
| <dominictarr> | yes, that should be the other way around |
| 22:04:17
| <thl0> | sorrry my mistake |
| 22:04:21
| <dominictarr> | actually, I'm switching everthing to use level-test |
| 22:04:29
| <thl0> | cool |
| 22:04:47
| <dominictarr> | which will make it easy to make the tests run in the browser, when that is ready |
| 22:04:55
| <thl0> | so you want no patch for this? |
| 22:14:16
| <dominictarr> | oh, I've just fixed it |
| 22:14:30
| <thl0> | cool, thanks |
| 22:15:20
| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-sublevel>: Separate sections of levelup, with hooks! (@dominictarr) |
| 22:15:58
| <thl0> | dominictarr: btw - this is annoying: https://github.com/dominictarr/level-sublevel/blob/master/sub.js#L143 |
| 22:16:16
| <thl0> | whoever put that there prob. meant to remove it |
| 22:17:22
| <dominictarr> | oops. |
| 22:17:31
| <dominictarr> | I do that too sometimes... |
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| 22:17:41
| <thl0> | seeing it now (which kinda proves that keyStream works - good thing overall) |
| 22:17:50
| <levelbot> | [npm] [email protected] <http://npm.im/level-sublevel>: Separate sections of levelup, with hooks! (@dominictarr) |
| 22:19:59
| <thl0> | dominictarr: so playing with this some more it looks like it doesn't index any uppercase keys |
| 22:20:21
| <thl0> | I may be wrong though - gotta go for a bit, but I'll try to come up with a test case |
| 22:21:26
| <dominictarr> | is this just using sublevel, or other modules? |
| 22:23:48
| <thl0> | just using sublevel.pre to index (and level ofcours) |
| 22:25:47
| <thl0> | so I just listed all npm users with an upper case letter in the name |
| 22:26:05
| <dominictarr> | if you inspect the db do you see caps? |
| 22:26:06
| <thl0> | and none with the first letter being uppercase get listed |
| 22:26:34
| <dominictarr> | it's probably a broken regexp somewhere |
| 22:26:35
| <thl0> | actually my bad |
| 22:26:47
| <thl0> | start: a, end: z |
| 22:27:04
| <thl0> | see the problem (I gotta learn my ASCII alphabet) |
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| <thl0> | so dominictarr all good for now I can also no longer repro this with the other dataset |
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