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09:14:29  <hij1nx>rvagg: ping
09:16:00  <hij1nx>rvagg: thinking about backups... if you were to copy the sst files from the disk, you would potentially end up with corrupted files, yeah?
09:16:44  <rvagg>hij1nx: yeah, unless you close the db while backing up
09:16:51  <hij1nx>i know hyper-level has the ability to get the snapshot and do a backup
09:16:55  <rvagg>hij1nx: but that's why rescrv implemented LiveBackup
09:18:17  <rvagg>hij1nx: if you can do it instantly then you might be able to pull it off, it's risky though, LVM is an option here
09:18:31  <rvagg>as is AWS's EBS which can do point-in-time snapshots just like LVM
09:18:44  <rvagg>then if/when you need it you remount the db and repair
09:18:55  <rvagg>I think rescrv suggested this was all pretty risky tho
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09:19:30  <hij1nx>rvagg: the other simple option is just to write a backup protocol that sends over tcp/tls
09:19:43  <rvagg>hij1nx: yeah, with a readStream so you get a snapshot to do it
09:19:51  <rvagg>I'd like to see someone implement a really simple version of that
09:19:53  <rvagg>I'd use it
09:20:04  <hij1nx>thats what im about to do ;)
09:20:08  <hij1nx>i need it
09:20:13  <rvagg>cool, keep me posted then!
09:20:16  <hij1nx>kk
09:20:29  <hij1nx>btw, http://hereihow.to is in private beta
09:21:01  <hij1nx>i have a few people who are working on cool how-to's for their projects
09:21:25  <rvagg>rad, can I get an invite?
09:22:12  <hij1nx>done. you should be able to sign in with persona
09:23:54  <hij1nx>nice, i get sign up alerts now :) -> https://cloudup.com/cj79ob6elIc
09:24:03  <rvagg>hij1nx: can't get in, doesn't move past the "SIGN IN" button
09:24:36  <hij1nx>when you click on sign in does it open a persona window?
09:24:46  <rvagg>yeah, and I've authenticated with persona
09:24:50  <rvagg>.. trying chrome
09:25:14  <rvagg>nope, the persona notification isn't bubbling back into the main window
09:25:37  <rvagg>hij1nx: have you rolled your own persona stuff or are you using doorknob?
09:25:41  <hij1nx>hmm, well, not bad that it doesnt work for 1 out of 6 ;)
09:25:56  <hij1nx>no, its generic persona
09:26:03  <hij1nx>try going to hereishow.to/register
09:26:25  <hij1nx>now that you've authed it might work, perhaps it's just the redirect that's not happening
09:26:42  <rvagg>arr, went there, logged in with persona and it seems to have bounced me in
09:27:10  <rvagg>love the design
09:27:39  <hij1nx>thanks! i had help from @fox
09:27:44  <rvagg>of course
09:27:54  <rvagg>compliment her for me
09:28:00  <hij1nx>absolutely
09:28:21  <rvagg>what sorts of things would show up in Alerts?
09:28:37  <hij1nx>kind of like github
09:29:18  <hij1nx>mentions, etc
09:29:46  <hij1nx>instructions have discussions on them that you can have privately or with other users who do not belong to your organizations
09:30:17  <rvagg>so does this work in FF or is it Chrome only for now? can't seem to do anything useful in the editor
09:30:30  <rvagg>and can't get chrome to login
09:30:52  <hij1nx>also, if you start an organization, you can create "bounties", which are like "hey, we are joyent, we are looking for someone to write an article about manta", then someone can apply for the bounty, the org would be notified
09:31:02  <rvagg>sometimes I think I need a mac on my desk for these occasions, I battled with a stupid corporate VPN this morning for a few hours, probably would have done it in 10 mins if I had mac/win
09:31:24  <hij1nx>hmm, it works in FF and Chrome on mac so far
09:31:35  <hij1nx>oh!
09:31:56  <hij1nx>would it be possible for you so share your screen so i can find out what is happening? that would be hugely valuable for me :)
09:32:18  <rvagg>hm, with what software tho?
09:32:24  <hij1nx>google hangout?
09:32:28  <rvagg>ok
09:32:57  <hij1nx>i'll invite you
09:34:01  <rvagg>wut? need to install the plugin on this machine .. odd .. thought it would be here
09:34:09  <hij1nx>hahaha
09:34:30  <hij1nx>never done a google hangout before?
09:34:48  <hij1nx>actually i was surprised they aren't pushing harder for webRTC
09:34:51  <rvagg>all the time, tho I tend to prefer the nexus7 for stability
09:35:07  <rvagg>ubuntu is telling me it's installed so this is some weird google thing
09:35:36  <hij1nx>should i try again?
09:35:49  <rvagg>no, it keeps on going back to the "install plugin" page
09:35:50  <rvagg>odd
09:35:54  <rvagg>hang on, let me fire up laptop
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10:36:03  <hij1nx>ah, good to know that www.hereishow.to VS hereishow.to was the porblem
10:36:27  <hij1nx>i think i can just redirect
10:36:40  <hij1nx>www is stupid anyway ;)
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10:40:17  <rvagg>yeah, I like redirecting www, I hate how appending it automatically is suddenly a thing in browsers
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