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12:22:22  <ehd>if i have 100 equivalent values, leveldb's compression won't work here, right? somehow i got the impression it only compresses within distinct values..?
12:22:32  <ehd>work, as in deduplicate said keys
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12:48:05  <rescrv>ehd: snappy will compress those values if their keys are adjacent
12:49:14  <ehd>they are, i'm saving versions of code and the keys advance with the version of the (largely unchanged) code
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12:51:13  <rescrv>ehd: snappy will take some of that cost off the top. If you're keeping all versions for all time, consider diffing them against each other, and periodically saving a full version
12:51:28  <rescrv>snappy may be good enough for you to not need that, but that depends on the code
12:53:54  <ehd>rescrv: true, i've thought about saving diffs only and reconstructing snapshots on demand or periodically..
12:57:24  <rescrv>that's the next step if snappy isn't good enough
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13:03:38  <ehd>my very first very dumb benchmark was taking jquery.js and dividing it into growing slices of about 100 characters per version. i ended up with a 250M database folder from a 250K sourcefile. but i haven't configured anything at all or try different keys, etc
13:04:00  <ehd>first version chars 0 to 100, second chars 0 to 200, etc
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17:14:41  <ggoodman>is there a general tool to come up with a start/end pair for createReadStream given a known prefix (ascii)?
17:15:42  <ggoodman>oh, just found level-range
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17:56:48  <itsMontoya>Hi guys!
17:57:08  <itsMontoya>I know this is the LevelDB ch, but I have an LMDB question I was hoping someone could assist me with
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17:57:37  <itsMontoya>I'm using the LevelDB node-wrapper for LMDB by the way :)
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18:08:34  <itsMontoya>https://github.com/rvagg/lmdb/issues/4
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18:14:22  <rescrv>itsMontoya: inserting the same things into LMDB without node on top, do you see the same result
18:14:53  <itsMontoya>Well I was originally using node-lmdb and the filesize didn't see to get as large
18:16:07  <itsMontoya>But the difference in these wrappers is that one allows you to control the transactions
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18:16:33  <itsMontoya>and the one I'm currently using, internally handles transaction stop/starts (I believe)
18:17:09  <itsMontoya>If I do an interator throughout the DB and then save those results to JSON.. it's like 5mb
18:17:09  <itsMontoya>:|
18:17:41  <rescrv>it should be pretty easy to dig into the lmdb source and see if every transaction start is matched by a transaction stop
18:18:10  <itsMontoya>Are you talking about looking at the DB itself?
18:18:28  <rescrv>https://github.com/rvagg/lmdb/tree/master/src
18:18:57  <itsMontoya>Right now I'm running default settings (Other than map size)
18:19:06  <itsMontoya>Are there any settings that I really should be enabling/disabling?
18:20:04  <rescrv>I'm not familiar enough with lmdb to say. It sounds like you should look at how node-lmdb and the leveldb wrapper differ in their usage of the underlying storage
18:22:17  <itsMontoya>Oh man..
18:22:20  <itsMontoya>I think I found something
18:22:23  <itsMontoya>So I see iterator open
18:22:27  <itsMontoya>But I don't see iterator close
18:22:31  <itsMontoya>in database.cc
18:22:43  <itsMontoya>and if you look up txn_begin, you will see 5
18:22:47  <itsMontoya>but if you look up txn_commit
18:22:49  <itsMontoya>There is only 4
18:23:42  <itsMontoya>Oh I wonder if I'm not calling end
18:23:45  <itsMontoya>and that's causing the issue
18:25:29  <itsMontoya>Dude that would be hilarious
18:25:36  <itsMontoya>I figured because I wasn't writing, it wouldn't cause issues
18:25:46  <itsMontoya>But I wonder if it was leaving these HUGE gaps after running an iterator
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18:27:33  <rescrv>lmdb is copy on write
18:27:49  <rescrv>every write will copy/write log(n) 512B pages on the disk
18:28:00  <rescrv>so if you're doing many writes, you'll end up with a log of garbage
18:28:16  <rescrv>that's fine, until you hold the transactions open, keeping the garbage around
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18:29:23  <itsMontoya>AHH
18:29:35  <itsMontoya>That must be it then
18:29:44  <itsMontoya>Because I'm doing a TON of writes
18:30:04  <itsMontoya>I think the DB growth has slowed tremendously
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18:30:07  <itsMontoya>After a few tweaks
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18:30:14  <itsMontoya>I'll be watching it closely for the next couple hours
18:30:26  <itsMontoya>I really appreciate you taking the time to explain some core details to be rescrv
18:30:35  <itsMontoya>Knowing under the hood stuff like that is very helpful for me
18:30:48  <rescrv>no problem
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18:36:31  <itsMontoya>Is there a way to clear the logs? Or would it be best to do a DB migration and just bring the records over to a new db?
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19:31:04  <hij1nx_>now with colorized autocomplete/key suggestions -- https://github.com/hij1nx/lev/tree/tui#repl
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20:45:05  <ogd>hij1nx_: ooooh shiny
20:45:21  <ogd>hij1nx_: does it still do a full DB scan on startup?
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