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01:10:02  <pietern>ryah: bnoordhuis: piscisaureus: see you guys tomorrow, looking forward to meeting in person!
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01:22:22  <CIA-53>node: Ben Noordhuis * r9bb3a68 / doc/api/buffers.markdown :
01:22:23  <CIA-53>node: docs: improve buffer.fill() documentation
01:22:23  <CIA-53>node: Fixes #1912. - http://git.io/cq0JNQ
01:24:55  <piscisaureus>igorzi: hey, yt?
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05:00:50  <indutny>ryah: yt?
05:01:02  <indutny>that context stuff broke everything in debugger
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06:18:29  <mikeal>ryah: are office hours tomorrow?
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06:21:27  <pquerna>mikeal: they were today
06:21:40  <pquerna>mikeal: wednesdays always now apparently
06:22:10  <mikeal>oh i see
06:22:15  <mikeal>yeah, couldn't today
06:22:27  <mikeal>spent all day talking to lawyers then had dinner in the city with ted leung
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07:13:22  <igorzi>piscisaureus___: ----^
07:13:35  <igorzi>please review
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15:38:31  <CIA-53>node: Fedor Indutny * rb43eb96 / lib/_debugger.js : debugger: fix backtrace err handling - http://git.io/rF1PMg
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15:42:49  <CIA-53>node: Nathan Rajlich * r95d530f / lib/repl.js :
15:42:49  <CIA-53>node: repl: print out `undefined`
15:42:49  <CIA-53>node: util.inspect() has a special case for "undefined", so it's nice to be able to
15:42:49  <CIA-53>node: distinguish visually that undefined is the result of an expression. - http://git.io/uT9W2A
15:47:17  <indutny>hey devs
15:47:18  <indutny>isaacs: ping
15:47:22  <isaacs>hi
15:47:32  <indutny>isaacs: you broke debugger :)
15:47:33  <indutny>hehe
15:47:40  <isaacs>howso? with the repl thing?
15:47:49  <isaacs>make test all still worked
15:47:53  <indutny>yep
15:48:01  <indutny>that's odd
15:48:08  <indutny>because debugger wasn't working for me at all
15:48:11  <isaacs>what broke?
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15:48:25  <isaacs>i was using the debugger all over the place yesterday
15:48:39  <indutny>isaacs: https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/lib/_debugger.js#L942
15:48:43  <indutny>well
15:48:53  <indutny>it's using asynchronous ".scope" detection
15:49:06  <isaacs>ok
15:49:07  <indutny>and it's using "context" in all *Eval fns as argument
15:49:14  <indutny>so it shouldn't work
15:49:18  <indutny>and it wasn't working for me
15:49:20  <indutny>today
15:49:25  <isaacs>what are you doing that's not working?
15:49:36  <indutny>typing: `n`
15:49:38  <isaacs>specifically? like, do you have a code/step-by-step example i can try?
15:50:08  <indutny>https://gist.github.com/c76c3330ca405c094371
15:50:33  <indutny>please refresh gist
15:50:34  <isaacs>ok, i see
15:50:37  <indutny>added step-by-step example
15:50:39  <indutny>;)
15:51:20  <isaacs>i guess that needs to be reverted and made configurable or something instead.
15:51:29  <isaacs>or we can letthe debugger just use the global context instead.
15:51:40  <indutny>isaacs: it can't
15:51:50  <indutny>isaacs: autocompletion won't work in `repl` mode
15:52:03  <indutny>isaacs: hm...
15:52:09  <indutny>ah
15:52:10  <indutny>ok
15:52:14  <indutny>autocompletion will work
15:52:17  <indutny>let me write patch for it
15:52:25  <indutny>5-10 min
15:52:36  <isaacs>but you'll potentially be polluting the global namespace from the debugger, which might affect the state of your program, i guess
15:52:44  <indutny>nope
15:52:47  <isaacs>god, it really sucks that you can't get a handle on the context of a running function.
15:52:56  <isaacs>the scope object
15:53:20  <indutny>ah
15:53:29  <indutny>well, there some problems anyway
15:53:29  <indutny>:D
15:53:42  <indutny>I'll need to add `next` and all commands to global
15:53:52  <indutny>otherwise they won't be accessible from debugger
15:54:23  <isaacs>i wonder if we could do this by reverting the repl change, and just having the repl call in src/node.js pass in the global object as the repl context for the default node repl.
15:54:56  <indutny>isaacs: that sounds much better
15:55:52  <indutny>oooh, working on mac's keyboard is much harder for first time
15:56:37  <bnoordhuis>indutny: i know how you feel :(
15:56:46  * bnoordhuisis working on a macbook too this week
15:57:23  <indutny>bnoordhuis: :)
15:57:33  <indutny>bnoordhuis: Fn+Backspace is worst part for me for now
15:57:54  <indutny>I'm not talking about downloading XCode on poor WiFi connection
15:57:55  <indutny>:P
15:58:06  <bnoordhuis>heh
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15:58:38  <indutny>you know, node isn't building with just gcc on osx
15:58:46  <indutny>because of SetProcessTitle
15:58:53  <indutny>:)
15:59:07  <indutny>so I'm manually patching platform files before building
15:59:26  <bnoordhuis>how does it break for you? wfm on lion
16:00:01  <bnoordhuis>oh, off to the office - biab
16:00:17  <indutny>SecurityHI.h not found
16:00:25  <indutny>I'm on 10.6.x
16:00:28  <indutny>w/o XCode
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16:03:28  <rmustacc>If you need to build on Mac OS, you almost certianly need XCode.
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16:36:37  <indutny>rmustacc: that's not good news :D
16:36:41  <indutny>but anyway I downloaded it
16:43:03  <ryah>bnoordhuis, piscisaureus: we need to get another demo from dap today
16:43:16  <rmustacc>I didn't think you even got a full toolchain without it.
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16:55:23  <igorzi>piscisaureus: https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/c9697a61f611695e06060417a120ecf82f3f6e4d
16:55:36  <piscisaureus>igorzi: yes, will review shortly
16:55:42  <piscisaureus>igorzi: actually I already started
16:55:48  <igorzi>piscisaureus: k, thx
17:00:47  <isaacs>indutny: hey
17:00:56  <indutny>isaacs: yes
17:01:05  <isaacs>https://github.com/isaacs/node/tree/repl-revert
17:01:18  <isaacs>indutny: can you pull from my repl-revert branch and see if it fixes the issue your'e seeing?
17:01:49  <isaacs>the key commit is here: https://github.com/isaacs/node/commit/3f9db955297f9004abf176c7431d2186ab4cd1d1
17:01:58  <isaacs>the one before it is just reverting the repl global change
17:04:14  <indutny>one second
17:04:14  <indutny>on a call
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17:13:47  <indutny>isaacs: sorry, gtg
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17:13:52  <isaacs>indutny: np
17:13:53  <indutny>don't you mind if I'll do it later?
17:13:56  <indutny>cool
17:14:54  <piscisaureus>igorzi: can you review https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/win-udp?
17:15:37  <igorzi>piscisaureus: yep
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17:18:36  <piscisaureus>igorzi: you should also try to run it, since I want to know if the LSP detection works
17:18:46  <piscisaureus>igorzi: it should slow-case for you
17:19:40  <igorzi>piscisaureus: k, will do
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17:46:59  <igorzi>piscisaureus: lktm (besides the minor comments in the commit)
17:47:07  <igorzi>*lgtm
17:50:09  <ryah>igorzi: we were getting this problem yesterday https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/1915
17:50:32  <ryah>igorzi: any idea why there'd be 7 ipv6 addresses for dns lookup?
17:50:43  <ryah>(before the first real nameserver)
17:51:19  <igorzi>ryah: hmm
17:53:32  <igorzi>ryah: how slow the does the cmd-line (mentioned in the issue) run?
17:53:38  <igorzi>it runs pretty fast for me
17:53:50  <igorzi>isaacs: is there any way to override/disable the node version check in npm (when installing a package)?
17:53:53  <ryah>igorzi: ~40sec
17:54:15  <igorzi>ryah: it completes in less than a sec for me
17:54:26  <isaacs>igorzi: --node-version null, or --node-version 0.4.12 or whatever
17:54:35  <igorzi>isaacs: thx
17:55:22  <isaacs>igorzi: it's best not to disable it entirely
17:55:45  <isaacs>igorzi: since you may end up with incompatible things, or something that doesn't work on any version of node. best to give it a specific version to pretend to be
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17:56:57  <igorzi>isaacs: k.. it'll be useful until modules start moving to v0.5+
17:57:24  <isaacs>yep
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18:04:29  <igorzi>ryah: piscisaureus: bnoordhuis: call?
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18:05:46  <ryah>yeah
18:05:51  <ryah>seting up the conf line
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18:06:42  <ryah>415-400-0604 (extension 0604)
18:07:52  <ryah>extension 0615 - sorry
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18:38:05  <igorzi>ryah: [04:11|% 100|+ 238|- 30] <----- with cmd.exe
18:38:12  <igorzi>ryah: [05:03|% 100|+ 241|- 27] <----- with sh.exe
18:39:57  <igorzi>ryah: test-child-process-stdout-flush.js still failing.. looking into why
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18:52:44  <indutny>review time! )
18:52:47  <indutny>ftw
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18:55:33  <CIA-53>libuv: Bert Belder * rea9ee39 / (6 files in 3 dirs): Igor's comments - http://git.io/3EjbEQ
18:55:49  <piscisaureus>igorzi: ^-- that better?
18:55:58  <piscisaureus>I will squash before I land it
19:02:04  <igorzi>piscisaureus: yep, looks good
19:02:11  <indutny>ryah: I think debugger vs. repl stuff needs more realtime discussion /cc isaacs
19:02:23  <indutny>please ping me when you'll have a free minute
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20:22:50  <sh1mmer>Are you guys with me adding a "pending-close" or something label for the issues list
20:23:08  <sh1mmer>I want to start labeling things which were issues in old versions that I can't reproduce
20:23:20  <sh1mmer>so it's easy for me to start closing down the issues list a bit more rigorously
20:25:27  <indutny>sh1mmer: +1
20:25:27  <indutny>definitely
20:26:04  <sh1mmer>I figure if we give people a grace of a week to respond and then close those issues
20:26:18  <indutny>searching fixed issues will be much easier
20:26:20  <sh1mmer>ben and a few other people have already commented on various issues and never heard back
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20:39:39  <ryah>indutny: are you okay with how isaacs solves it?
20:39:53  <ryah>indutny: or do you have a better solution?
20:40:57  <piscisaureus>igorzi: your patch looks good. I have added 2 comments but the event pool thing may be a little hairy to get right, so you can ignore that if you want.
20:41:50  <CIA-53>libuv: Bert Belder * r22b6eaf / (8 files): Work around windows udp bug, allow zero reads - http://git.io/DfPHqw
20:44:09  <isaacs>hey
20:44:12  * isaacsis realtime
20:44:22  <igorzi>piscisaureus: i'll add an issue for event pool
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20:45:18  <igorzi>piscisaureus: also, i found an issue with it. basically i need to uv_ref() any time there are pending writes (and then uv_unref() when we've written out all pending writes)
20:45:37  <piscisaureus>igorzi: huh. why?
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20:45:50  <isaacs>indutny, ryah: ping
20:45:54  <igorzi>piscisaureus: because node doesn't hang around on process.std* handles
20:46:08  <piscisaureus>igorzi: ah yeah that's wrong
20:46:22  <piscisaureus>igorzi: that's correct but ref/unref is not the solution
20:46:27  <piscisaureus>igorzi: we should fix this in node
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20:47:55  <igorzi>piscisaureus: so, node currently assumes that all bending stdout.writes will complete before the process exits?
20:48:40  <piscisaureus>igorzi: yeah, it seems that the unix guys just ref() all writes
20:48:48  <igorzi>piscisaureus: that assumption holds, but not when we do writes on the thread pool
20:49:19  <igorzi>piscisaureus: that's what i did as well
20:49:24  <piscisaureus>igorzi: hehe
20:49:32  <piscisaureus>igorzi: do it then
20:49:46  <igorzi>piscisaureus: it seems kind of wrong to expose ref/unref to js-land..
20:50:11  <piscisaureus>yeah
20:50:22  <piscisaureus>ryah says he refs all writes in the binding layer
20:50:41  <igorzi>piscisaureus: hmm, where's that code?
20:53:45  <indutny>isaacs: pong
20:54:55  <igorzi>piscisaureus ryah: i can't find that code.. should we ref writes in libuv? or in the node binding?
20:55:09  <piscisaureus>igorzi: yeah ryah was wrong
20:55:20  <ryah>igorzi: can we call you
20:55:24  <ryah>we're discussing in voice
20:56:28  <indutny>sorry, gtg
20:56:37  <indutny>I'll answer/fix everything tomorrow ;)
20:56:39  <indutny>heh
20:56:50  <indutny>good night/day/evening everyone
20:57:32  <igorzi>ryah: yep, skype?
20:57:48  <igorzi>or real phone?
20:58:24  <ryah>real phone is better
20:58:43  <ryah>my number is 415-400-0615
20:59:02  <isaacs>indutny: have fun
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21:05:22  <creationix|work>ryah: as I implement the http layer in luvit I begin to appreciate all the HTTP protocol crap that node does for me
21:05:47  <creationix|work>been dealing with things like 100-continue and websockets today
21:07:34  <ryah>yes, http is hard
21:07:46  <bnoordhuis>creationix|work: don't forget about trailing http headers!
21:07:52  <bnoordhuis>one of the daftest things in http
21:07:54  <creationix|work>yeah, not going to mess with that yet
21:08:01  <creationix|work>I am aware though
21:13:32  <creationix|work>sweet, I can upload a 1gb file to a local server in 1040ms
21:13:41  <creationix|work>of course, I'm just dropping the data on the floor
21:13:47  <creationix|work>to test throughput
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21:30:51  <igorzi>ryah: there's a test that fails because process.kill doesn't work on windows.. do you want to make process.kill not available on windows at all? (so people can test for (process.kill))
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21:58:36  <piscisaureus>Sorry, I landed the wrong stuff in libuv. Need to force push
21:59:18  <ryah>igorzi: maybe we should have a no-op and print a message to stderr?
21:59:32  <ryah>piscisaureus: what do you think about process.kill?
21:59:38  <ryah>i don't wnt people to have to branch...
22:02:04  <CIA-53>libuv: Bert Belder * r51e9dbc / (8 files in 3 dirs): Work around windows udp bug, allow zero reads - http://git.io/ic1Cpw
22:02:26  <CIA-53>libuv: Bert Belder * rd6cf655 / src/ares/ares_init.c : Ignore rogue DNS servers reported by windows - http://git.io/zNdoxQ
22:03:02  <CIA-53>libuv: Ben Noordhuis * rc0e5db2 / src/unix/linux.c : linux: fix events after close bug - http://git.io/DtpQoA
22:03:29  <piscisaureus>ryah: can you review d6cf655 ?
22:06:39  <igorzi>ryah: yeah, and maybe the error message could point people to use child.kill
22:07:30  <ryah>piscisaureus: lgtm
22:07:36  <CIA-53>node: Ryan Dahl * rbe2320d / (src/cares_wrap.cc test/internet/test-dns.js): Add binding to uv_getaddrinfo - http://git.io/Ye_Nfw
22:08:14  <ryah>igorzi: sure sounds good
22:10:32  <CIA-53>libuv: Bert Belder * rcb474b2 / src/ares/ares_init.c : Ignore rogue DNS servers reported by windows - http://git.io/GOQgPA
22:10:45  <ryah>igorzi: did you figure out what was wrong with test-child-process-stdout-flush.js?
22:10:59  <piscisaureus>igorzi: did you land your pipes patch yet
22:11:26  <igorzi>ryah: yeah, it was the child proc exiting too early (before writing to stdout)
22:11:36  <igorzi>piscisaureus: not yet, should i wait?
22:11:43  <piscisaureus>igorzi: no do it
22:11:48  <igorzi>k
22:11:55  <piscisaureus>igorzi: bnoordhuis wants to upgrade libuv in node
22:13:25  <bnoordhuis>ryah: https://github.com/bnoordhuis/node/compare/http-hack
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22:22:41  <CIA-53>libuv: Igor Zinkovsky * r54982a2 / (12 files in 4 dirs): windows: stdio over non-overlapped pipes - http://git.io/ycQnPw
22:22:42  <CIA-53>libuv: Igor Zinkovsky * r28234d7 / (include/uv-private/uv-win.h src/win/pipe.c test/run-tests.c): windows: ref pipe writes to keep the event loop alive - http://git.io/5YyfHQ
22:23:01  <igorzi>piscisaureus bnoordhuis: ---^
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22:23:49  <piscisaureus>igorzi++
22:24:39  <ryah>nice
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22:29:26  <bnoordhuis>[00:48|% 100|+ 268|- 0]: Done <- linux
22:29:42  <bnoordhuis>that's node's `make test`
22:30:39  <CIA-53>node: Ben Noordhuis * r145aa63 / (21 files in 7 dirs): uv: upgrade to 28234d7 - http://git.io/tndfuw
22:31:49  <ryah>libuv, OSX [% 100|+ 82|- 2]: Done.
22:33:36  <igorzi>[03:54|% 100|+ 245|- 23]
22:33:43  <igorzi>windows --^
22:33:55  <igorzi>(with non-blocking pipes patch)
22:40:33  <CIA-53>node: Bert Belder * r00bbe95 / src/cares_wrap.cc : Fix windows build - http://git.io/5dQqzQ
22:43:29  <sh1mmer>How do people feel about a "wontfix" label for issues that we don't want to address for 0.4
22:43:50  <sh1mmer>for example there is a bug fixed in v8 3.4 which means it won't make it into 0.4
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22:56:44  <ryah>sh1mmer: i think just close them?
22:56:56  <sh1mmer>I want to add a label
22:57:02  <sh1mmer>so we know why later
22:57:05  <sh1mmer>I guess I can comment
22:57:18  <bnoordhuis>i always comment when i close an issue
22:57:29  <bnoordhuis>just closing things seems kind of rude
22:57:43  <sh1mmer>I would always comment anyway, but it helps searching
22:57:58  <sh1mmer>I can just keep my OCD to myself :)
22:58:09  <bnoordhuis>do you feel strongly about it?
22:58:14  <sh1mmer>not really
22:58:30  <bnoordhuis>let's not in that case
22:58:32  <sh1mmer>ok
22:58:37  <sh1mmer>any objections to closing this? https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/519
22:58:43  <bnoordhuis>it only works if people use it consistently and i kind of doubt that'll happen
22:59:06  <ryah>sh1mmer: no
22:59:39  <bnoordhuis>built for me on i386 freebsd last week
23:00:01  <sh1mmer>I'm also working on getting some more automated build tools now I'm not flying around
23:00:09  <sh1mmer>I've been promising ryah that for ages
23:00:10  <sh1mmer>:)
23:00:29  <bnoordhuis>more buildbots?
23:01:27  <sh1mmer>something along those lines. I want to get a bunch of the code quality tests automated into reports
23:01:35  <sh1mmer>we have this whole cloud
23:01:47  <sh1mmer>so I'm going to see about spinning up various machines to test stuff
23:02:01  <sh1mmer>It won't be perfect for everything but it'll help with some of the things
23:02:10  <bnoordhuis>sure, sounds like a good plan
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23:23:31  <sh1mmer>ryah: can I close. This should be a buildbot task to report the errors we have
23:23:34  <sh1mmer>https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/592
23:30:08  <ryah>sh1mmer: no- that's still open
23:30:42  <sh1mmer>There are a lot of errors but isn't that going to regress a lot?
23:31:38  <ryah>?
23:33:57  <sh1mmer>make valgrind-test works for me but valgrind throws up a bunch of stuff
23:34:15  <sh1mmer>is the bug that the make script is broken or that valgrind is finding errors?
23:34:34  <sh1mmer>because it seems like valgrind finding leaks is going to regress a lot, and each leak should be an issue
23:34:50  <sh1mmer>or per file, or whatever
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23:46:46  <ryah>sh1mmer: valgrind binding errors
23:46:56  <sh1mmer>which platform
23:46:56  <ryah>*finding
23:46:59  <sh1mmer>works on my mac
23:47:10  <sh1mmer>oh
23:47:11  <sh1mmer>sorry
23:47:43  <sh1mmer>Want me to start creating issue per file/module etc?
23:48:33  <ryah>*shrug*
23:48:45  <ryah>pasting the output in there would be good
23:49:43  <sh1mmer>ok
23:51:31  <sh1mmer>There is an error with `list` in the debugger that is fixed on HEAD. Should I close this? https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/636
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23:54:40  <bnoordhuis>sh1mmer: yes, go ahead
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