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01:37:21  <CIA-155>libuv: Ben Noordhuis master * rc9396dd / (7 files in 3 dirs): unix: implement timers in libuv - http://git.io/7_udag
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12:39:21  <bnoordhuis>indutny: ping
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12:54:17  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: https://github.com/monadbobo/libuv/commit/880171664df25aeb033db322c444338baed2260d
12:54:35  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: er, https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/407
12:54:44  <bnoordhuis>yeah, i've seen that one
12:54:58  <bnoordhuis>it's kind of pointless
12:55:01  <bnoordhuis>the PR that is
12:55:08  <bnoordhuis>that fd = -1 is a guard
12:55:20  <piscisaureus_>ok, so don't land it
12:55:24  <piscisaureus_>is the warning really there?
12:55:50  <piscisaureus_>https://github.com/monadbobo/libuv/commit/60fa3bd566fadcf4d5c9ba50ca46a104660e140c
12:56:40  <bnoordhuis>yeah, gcc complains about it depending on the compile mode
13:13:42  <indutny>bnoordhuis: pong
13:13:56  <bnoordhuis>indutny: you were looking for me?
13:14:03  <indutny>bnoordhuis: em... yesterday?
13:14:51  <indutny>definitely not today
13:14:54  <indutny>anyway
13:15:20  <bnoordhuis>maybe ircretary is having a bad day
13:25:07  <indutny>piscisaureus_: working on unix part of proposed stdio api
13:25:12  <indutny>piscisaureus_: for uv, of course
13:25:16  <piscisaureus_>ok, cool
13:30:23  <indutny>piscisaureus_: btw, how is it going with yours? is that final version https://github.com/piscisaureus/libuv/commit/d0b36ce79d71ab3531d592bd4283f4a36be094f1 ?
13:30:44  <piscisaureus_>indutny: it says "wip" right
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13:31:05  <piscisaureus_>indutny: it's making progress. I'm trying to finish it before the cal
13:31:41  <indutny>piscisaureus_: oh, that reminds me about something important
13:31:49  <indutny>at which time it is?
13:32:05  <piscisaureus_>2.5 hours from now
13:32:09  <indutny>yeah
13:32:10  <piscisaureus_>2:30
13:32:11  <indutny>got it, thanks
13:32:51  <indutny>em
13:32:52  <indutny>ok
13:33:15  <indutny>bnoordhuis: does every uv_stream_t has fd on unix?
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13:51:57  <indutny>piscisaureus_: https://github.com/indutny/libuv/commit/8b2c584117cd74a522d39fa6c8a05974a2a271eb
13:51:59  <indutny>bnoordhuis: ^
13:52:08  <piscisaureus_>indutny: yes
13:52:22  <indutny>piscisaureus_: what "yes"?
13:52:23  <piscisaureus_>indutny: but I don't know if it'll be at the same spot every time
13:52:35  <indutny>piscisaureus_: what?
13:52:36  <piscisaureus_>indutny: re: bnoordhuis: does every uv_stream_t has fd on unix?
13:52:42  <piscisaureus_>indutny: the answer is yes :-)
13:52:47  <indutny>aah
13:52:50  <indutny>piscisaureus_: ok :)
13:52:58  <indutny>piscisaureus_: then my patch should be correct
13:53:28  <piscisaureus_>indutny: cool. does it work?
13:53:43  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: review indutny's patch <-- https://github.com/indutny/libuv/commit/8b2c584117cd74a522d39fa6c8a05974a2a271eb
13:57:08  <indutny>piscisaureus_: yes, it does
13:57:26  <indutny>piscisaureus_: unix part doesn't really have any changes from master
13:57:32  <indutny>piscisaureus_: except API ones, of course
13:59:46  <CIA-155>node: Erwin van der Koogh v0.6 * rccc854d / doc/api/child_process.markdown : doc: remove all references to setsid - http://git.io/01XGDg
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14:24:44  <indutny>hahaha
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15:27:06  <piscisaureus_>indutny: do we have a test that tests whether fd 4 works?
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15:29:31  <isaacs>good morning heroes.
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15:36:34  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder master * r0c727fd / src/win/core.c : windows: don't crash - http://git.io/ofmw6g
15:36:34  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder master * raecddfe / src/win/pipe.c : windows: style fix - http://git.io/NQfg9Q
15:36:36  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * r7bee36a / (include/uv.h test/test-spawn.c): api: change the spawn api to allow using existing streams for stdio - http://git.io/IqlTlg
15:36:36  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * r0b05735 / (include/uv-private/uv-win.h src/win/process.c): windows: improve spawn stdio support - http://git.io/pbMHJQ
15:36:41  <piscisaureus_>indutny: the reviewme branch
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15:45:28  <indutny>piscisaureus_: yeah, I see
15:45:34  <indutny>piscisaureus_: tests are only in node for now
15:45:46  <indutny>piscisaureus_: wanna merge my changes into your branch?
15:45:51  <indutny>I'll implement test in a minute
15:46:04  <indutny>probably, after standup
15:50:48  <piscisaureus_>ok
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15:55:19  <isaacs>call in a few minutes
15:56:01  <isaacs>once piscisaureus_ and bnoordhuis finish their standup and sign into skype :)
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15:59:26  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: can you review https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/reviewme ?
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16:00:08  <indutny>piscisaureus_: stdio > 3 for win?
16:00:10  <piscisaureus_>isaacs: hold off for 5 more minutes
16:00:15  <piscisaureus_>indutny: yes
16:00:19  <indutny>omg
16:00:20  <indutny>cool
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16:05:16  <isaacs>igorzi: you around?
16:06:52  <igorzi>isaacs: dialing in
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17:08:08  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/7bee36a^...0b05735
17:08:08  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1488578
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17:09:49  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/c9396dd...aecddfe
17:09:49  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1488576
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18:55:09  <indutny>igorzi: yt?
18:55:20  <indutny>igorzi: can I do write(3, "string", sizeof("string")) on windows?
18:55:33  <indutny>igorzi: I'm really do not know anything about working with fds on win
18:57:46  <indutny>oook
19:00:52  <indutny>looks like now
19:00:54  <indutny>s/now/no
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20:54:50  * ryahtopic: Release early, release often
20:55:24  <ryah>subtle hints
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20:56:33  <indutny>haha
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22:30:50  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: hey
22:31:09  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: this fhnd/crt_flags inconsistency... was that the only problem you have?
22:58:18  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: hey
22:58:36  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: ho!
22:59:27  <AvianFlu>let's go!
22:59:57  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: the only other question i had was.. fds 0-2 are set with cbReserved2/lpReserved2 and with startup.hStdInput, startup.hStdOutput, startup.hStdError.. are there any issues with that?
23:00:31  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: or does crt ignore 0-2 in cbReserved2/lpReserved2?
23:01:29  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: the crt uses lpReserved2 but falls back to hStdXxx if lpReserved2 isn't set
23:02:26  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: if you want to understand the logic, look in c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\vc\crt\src\ioinit.c
23:03:35  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: (line 245)
23:04:20  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: right.. so we're setting fds 0-2 both using lpReserved2 and with hStdXxx (https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/reviewme#L2R1177).. the effect is that crt will just override it?
23:05:05  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: the crt will prefer to use the lpReserved2 data over the hStdInput data
23:05:13  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: in other words.. do we really need to set any of hStdXxx? (since crt will do it)
23:05:35  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: but if some program is spawned that doesn't use the crt, or just uses GetStdHandle(STD_INPUT_HANDLE), then that doesn't work
23:05:50  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: crt will not set hStdXXX
23:06:03  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: crt will just map FD 0/1/2 to something
23:06:16  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: right.. but this whole feature assumes that the child will be spawned with crt, right?
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23:06:34  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: (to support fds > 2)?
23:06:44  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: yeah... if the child is not using the crt then fds > 2 are not available
23:07:12  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: we should probably document that
23:07:55  <piscisaureus_>that's okay... in uv.h?
23:08:01  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: yep
23:08:11  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: alright
23:09:21  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: just curious.. do mingw executables also use lpReserved2 ?
23:09:35  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: mingw executables use the crt too
23:10:06  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: I don't know about cygwin (which uses glibc... I suppose not...)
23:10:54  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: mingw has its own implementation of the crt? or does it link to ms crt?
23:11:07  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: it uses ms crt I think
23:11:14  <piscisaureus_>yeah, I'm pretty sure
23:11:54  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: other than that.. lgtm
23:12:51  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: yeah, just checked, mingw32 programs use the crt too
23:13:06  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: plus something called mingwext but that library is (nearly) empty
23:13:13  <piscisaureus_>er, libmingwex
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23:27:38  <AvianFlu>piscisaureus_: updated to leave the unref'ing to the user: https://github.com/AvianFlu/libuv/compare/detached2
23:28:07  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * raea2042 / (include/uv.h src/win/process.c): Process igorzi's comments - http://git.io/J1LqJg
23:28:09  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: ^
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23:28:41  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/0b05735...aea2042
23:28:41  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1493094
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23:29:51  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: how was the last talk?
23:30:09  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: also need to rename crt_flags -> fhnd (in the comment)
23:30:50  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: ugh. I will just call that "handle"
23:30:53  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: sorry
23:31:03  <piscisaureus_>AvianFlu: almost good :-)
23:31:49  <piscisaureus_>AvianFlu: but instead of using a new int "detached", we could just use a new options.flags
23:31:51  <piscisaureus_>field
23:32:14  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: boring, but the drinks after were good :_)
23:32:16  <AvianFlu>fine by me
23:32:20  <bnoordhuis>heh
23:32:28  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: you just arrived home btw?
23:32:40  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: yeah. had a beer with a friend in utrehct
23:32:42  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: that'd be a long journey, the
23:32:42  <bnoordhuis>*utrecht
23:32:47  <piscisaureus_>orly?
23:33:06  <bnoordhuis>the train was indeed delayed by 30+ minutes >:(
23:33:47  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * r443fcad / (include/uv.h src/win/process.c): Process igorzi's comments - http://git.io/CDERfg
23:33:49  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: ^ that should do it
23:34:34  <igorzi>piscisaureus_: lgtm
23:34:52  <piscisaureus_>igorzi: kewl. Now I wait for indutny to merge it :-)
23:35:41  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * rbd43154 / (include/uv-private/uv-win.h include/uv.h src/win/process.c): windows: improve spawn stdio support - http://git.io/DuEEPg
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23:38:37  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: I wanna go to utrecht (werf) again. It's really nice there when the weather is good.
23:39:08  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: so yeah hackersnl next time
23:40:37  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: cool, let's
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23:41:11  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#344 (reviewme - 443fcad : Bert Belder): The build is still failing.
23:41:11  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/aea2042...443fcad
23:41:11  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1493120
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23:41:59  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#345 (reviewme - bd43154 : Bert Belder): The build is still failing.
23:41:59  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/443fcad...bd43154
23:41:59  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1493134
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23:42:02  <bnoordhuis>fatal: reference is not a tree: 443fcadb458bb790ddda05036009b0f3387f8865 <- wut
23:42:27  <bnoordhuis>include/uv.h:1178:27: warning: comma at end of enumerator list [-pedantic]
23:42:27  <bnoordhuis>60src/unix/process.c: In function ‘uv__process_init_stdio’:
23:42:27  <bnoordhuis>61src/unix/process.c:154:33: error: ‘UV_RAW_FD’ undeclared (first use in this function)
23:42:27  <bnoordhuis>62src/unix/process.c:154:33: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
23:42:27  <bnoordhuis>63src/unix/process.c:171:1: warning: control reaches end of non-void function [-Wreturn-type]
23:42:34  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_, igorzi: ^
23:43:02  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: yeah fedor fixed that in his own branch
23:43:08  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: fedor will merge that
23:44:06  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * re3a802d / (include/uv-private/uv-win.h include/uv.h src/win/process.c): windows: improve spawn stdio support - http://git.io/C6ICYg
23:44:14  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: ^- fixes the --pedantic warning
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23:44:43  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#346 (reviewme - e3a802d : Bert Belder): The build is still failing.
23:44:43  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/bd43154...e3a802d
23:44:43  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1493198
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23:53:00  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * r2045798 / (src/unix/process.c src/win/process.c): x - http://git.io/PJ3WOQ
23:53:01  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * rb5f8027 / (4 files in 4 dirs): windows: improve spawn stdio support - http://git.io/1Y4Uww
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23:53:39  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#347 (reviewme - b5f8027 : Bert Belder): The build is still failing.
23:53:39  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/e3a802d...b5f8027
23:53:39  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1493240
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23:54:44  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * rc8413d4 / (4 files in 4 dirs): api: change the spawn api to allow using existing streams for stdio - http://git.io/gUhPjw
23:54:44  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * r8461fc2 / (4 files in 4 dirs): windows: improve spawn stdio support - http://git.io/WUBbwA
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23:55:17  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#348 (reviewme - 8461fc2 : Bert Belder): The build is still failing.
23:55:17  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/b5f8027...8461fc2
23:55:17  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1493255
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23:58:21  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * r44c72a9 / (4 files in 4 dirs): api: change the spawn api to allow using existing streams for stdio - http://git.io/w4H1gg
23:58:21  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * rb48ce33 / (4 files in 4 dirs): windows: improve spawn stdio support - http://git.io/613hgw
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23:59:01  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#349 (reviewme - b48ce33 : Bert Belder): The build is still failing.
23:59:01  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/8461fc2...b48ce33
23:59:01  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/1493286
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23:59:22  <CIA-155>libuv: Bert Belder reviewme * r8a42c43 / (include/uv-private/uv-win.h include/uv.h src/win/process.c): windows: improve spawn stdio support - http://git.io/RYBYag