00:04:57  <piscisaureus>bnoordhuis: well, I effectively started working on node monday
00:05:06  <piscisaureus>bnoordhuis: fixing fs issues in windows
00:05:21  <piscisaureus>bnoordhuis: and trying out stuff for making fs faster
00:06:24  <bnoordhuis>good
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00:11:02  <bnoordhuis>the ghci repl is pretty nice, smart autocomplete and all
00:12:39  <piscisaureus>haskell
00:12:55  <tjfontaine>heh
00:14:06  <piscisaureus>bnoordhuis: btw, to maximize the confusion we should call ourselves "team Rik & Ruben"
00:14:58  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus: i like team dijkstra
00:15:15  <piscisaureus>bnoordhuis: yeah but eng C. already claimed dijkstra I think
00:15:22  <piscisaureus>maybe Dijkstra II
00:15:24  <bnoordhuis>what? this means war!
00:15:43  <bnoordhuis>i don't want to be in team knuth, i don't know how to pronounce that
00:16:00  <piscisaureus>wasn't that an ice bear or something?
00:16:20  <bnoordhuis>also
00:18:35  <piscisaureus>isaacs: question
00:18:49  <piscisaureus>isaacs: when http client request emits error, will it also emit end?
00:19:55  <piscisaureus>^-- anyone knows that?
00:21:30  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus: no
00:22:01  <tjfontaine>it probably should though, right?
00:22:13  <bnoordhuis>depends - 'end' is emitted when the req or res is finished
00:22:33  <bnoordhuis>an error halfway through doesn't fulfill that requirement
00:22:58  <tjfontaine>right
00:23:07  <piscisaureus>yeah, I think it doesn't
00:23:20  <piscisaureus>although the response object can also emit 'aborted'
00:23:24  <piscisaureus>and then 'end'
00:23:35  <piscisaureus>this is such a mayhem
00:24:00  <bnoordhuis>yes, it's not very consistent
00:24:01  <piscisaureus>NOBODY knows how 'error', 'end' and 'close' interact
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00:29:47  <piscisaureus>isaacs: clicking on a "most starred" project should take you to the project's landing page, not to a list of people who starred it
00:29:51  <piscisaureus>isaacs: nobody cares about that
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00:33:04  <piscisaureus>cool image diffs -> https://github.com/amadeus/npm-www/commit/4fedf7ad45eaf162c79e69d5cd917e939a27e92c?diff-0=2-100
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00:41:13  <piscisaureus>https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/2771 <-- oh my
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00:48:43  <piscisaureus>Ok now I am reeeeeally gone
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11:43:00  <CIA-108>node: Ben Noordhuis v0.8 * rcccce60 / tools/installer.js : installer: don't assume bash is installed - http://git.io/d5Y5sA
11:45:48  <indutny>hey people
11:46:02  <indutny>bnoordhuis: howdy
11:46:29  <bnoordhuis>indutny: hey
11:46:37  <indutny>any luck with async session stuff? :)
11:51:16  <bnoordhuis>haven't reviewed it further
11:51:24  <bnoordhuis>remind me again, what was the benefit? increased performance?
11:52:29  <indutny>bnoordhuis: share session storage between different workers
11:52:31  <indutny>i.e. forks
11:53:26  <indutny>and possibility of external storage usage
11:55:28  <AndreasMadsen>bnoordhuis: I've diged it, https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/3806#issuecomment-7425323
11:55:46  <bnoordhuis>cool :)
11:55:49  <bnoordhuis>let me review your commits
11:57:44  <AndreasMadsen>bnoordhuis: I'm not sure what the proper fix is to the "HandleWrap" error, however a easy fix is to check for this.connected before doing this.ref()
11:58:07  <bnoordhuis>handlewrap error? did i miss something?
11:58:50  <bnoordhuis>oh, the second commit
12:06:37  <indutny>bnoordhuis: https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/499
12:06:43  <indutny>bnoordhuis: what do you mean by both paths?
12:07:11  <bnoordhuis>indutny: sync and async code paths
12:07:18  <indutny>do we have sync code for fsync?
12:07:31  <indutny>aaah
12:07:35  <indutny>that define is tricky
12:07:35  <indutny>ok
12:10:39  <bnoordhuis>AndreasMadsen: i wager it's because of the process.disconnect() call
12:10:49  <bnoordhuis>because the process object is not a handle
12:11:00  <indutny>bnoordhuis: may be I can just patch eio to use F_FULLSYNC too?
12:11:07  <indutny>bnoordhuis: otherwise we'll have the same warning
12:11:57  <bnoordhuis>indutny: no eio patching. write e.g. a function uv__fsync that does fnctl(F_FULLSYNC) and gets called both sync and async
12:12:30  <indutny>bnoordhuis: oh, stupid me
12:12:31  <indutny>got it now
12:12:38  <bnoordhuis>good :)
12:12:59  <AndreasMadsen>bnoordhuis: process.disconnect() is fully supported, however it close the IPC channel, so when calling ipc.ref using process.on('message') it ref+ a close channel, and that course the error - or so I believe
12:13:52  <indutny>bnoordhuis: so it should be sync anyway
12:14:03  <bnoordhuis>indutny: err?
12:15:02  <indutny>I'll need to fill req->eio field with some sort of request
12:15:08  <indutny>that I can get only from ev.c, no?
12:16:25  <bnoordhuis>ev.c? i'm not following
12:16:46  <bnoordhuis>you mean eio.c?
12:17:07  <indutny>sorry, yes
12:17:11  <indutny>I'm not following too, actually
12:18:07  <indutny>how to create eio request in uv
12:18:21  <bnoordhuis>indutny: eio_custom
12:18:51  <indutny>oh, that
12:19:02  <indutny>thanks
12:19:07  <bnoordhuis>my pleasure :)
12:21:44  <indutny>btw
12:21:51  <indutny>I've abstracted audio interactions in vock
12:22:04  <indutny>https://github.com/indutny/vock/blob/master/src/audio/platform/mac.h
12:22:23  <indutny>so one can just implement linux stuff on top of this API and it would be automatically picked by front-end
12:22:24  <indutny>;)
12:36:08  <bnoordhuis>AndreasMadsen: https://github.com/bnoordhuis/node/compare/fork-auto-exit <- i already landed your patches (with some modifications)
12:36:30  <bnoordhuis>and i addressed the handlewrap thingy in handle_wrap.cc
12:36:35  <AndreasMadsen>bnoordhuis: cool
12:43:05  <indutny>bnoordhuis: what do you think about putting uv_file into uv_fs_t->path field?
12:43:14  <indutny>bnoordhuis: I really do not want to change ABI w/o need
12:43:23  <indutny>bnoordhuis: and fd should be stored somewhere in fd
12:43:26  <indutny>err
12:43:28  <indutny>in res
12:43:30  <indutny>req*
12:44:47  <bnoordhuis>you can change abi in master
12:44:59  <indutny>ok
12:45:04  <indutny>uv_file file; <- ok?
12:45:40  <bnoordhuis>AndreasMadsen: simple/test-child-process-fork-ref is timing sensitive, it consistently fails in debug mode
12:45:52  <bnoordhuis>=== debug test-child-process-fork-ref ===
12:45:52  <bnoordhuis>Path: simple/test-child-process-fork-ref
12:45:52  <bnoordhuis>parent -> call disconnect
12:45:52  <bnoordhuis>child -> now disconnected
12:45:52  <bnoordhuis>assert.js:102
12:45:53  <bnoordhuis> throw new assert.AssertionError({
12:45:55  <bnoordhuis> ^
12:45:57  <bnoordhuis>AssertionError: ["start"] deepEqual ["start","kept alive"]
12:45:59  <bnoordhuis> at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (/home/bnoordhuis/src/nodejs/master/test/simple/test-child-process-fork-ref.js:52:12)
12:46:04  <bnoordhuis> at ChildProcess.g (events.js:189:14)
12:46:06  <bnoordhuis> at ChildProcess.EventEmitter.emit (events.js:91:17)
12:46:08  <bnoordhuis> at Process._handle.onexit (child_process.js:685:10)
12:46:10  <bnoordhuis> at process.startup.processMakeCallback.process._makeCallback (node.js:238:20)
12:46:12  <bnoordhuis>Command: out/Debug/node /home/bnoordhuis/src/nodejs/master/test/simple/test-child-process-fork-ref.js
12:46:14  <bnoordhuis>indutny: yes
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12:52:34  <AndreasMadsen>bnoordhuis: oh, well - I will rewrite it
12:55:06  <indutny>bnoordhuis: is that better https://github.com/indutny/libuv/commit/0845be09a4420df8d50d75dc224592bb97f20417 ?
12:56:04  <indutny>actually, there're flacky condition
12:56:08  <indutny>but I just force pushed over it
12:56:18  <indutny>https://github.com/indutny/libuv/commit/7677ff6abce2a9ea990c6866f00d460fb7c5a26e
12:56:21  <indutny>this should be better %
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12:57:43  <piscisaureus_>hello
13:01:13  <AndreasMadsen>bnoordhuis: https://github.com/AndreasMadsen/node/commit/86e72def18efb5a0fae9f9863568c880d8d1c798
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13:22:52  <indutny>bnoordhuis: mm?
13:23:01  <indutny>bnoordhuis: does this looks good to you https://github.com/indutny/libuv/commit/7677ff6abce2a9ea990c6866f00d460fb7c5a26e ?
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13:34:59  <indutny>bnoordhuis: yt?
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13:45:36  <bnoordhuis>indutny: ih
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13:49:13  <bnoordhuis>AndreasMadsen: landed, thanks
13:49:52  <AndreasMadsen>cool
13:50:22  <piscisaureus__>I do not understand v8 versioning.,,,
13:55:50  <indutny>bnoordhuis: can I wait on the same semaphore in different threads?
13:56:13  <bnoordhuis>indutny: concurrently, you mean? sure
13:56:14  <piscisaureus__>of course you can
13:56:19  <indutny>good
13:56:23  <indutny>load balancing ftw! :)
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14:24:54  <indutny>ah, I can't do it
14:24:59  <indutny>since I'm using lock-less buffers
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14:40:52  <indutny>piscisaureus_: hey man
14:41:03  <indutny>wanna do the second vock test? ;)
14:41:14  <indutny>echo cancellation and other processing stuff is working fine now
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14:41:44  <piscisaureus_>indutny: I'd have to reboot (no longer have to macs). Another time please.
14:41:57  <indutny>piscisaureus_: ok, np at all
14:42:00  <indutny>just saying
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15:10:15  <indutny>I'm going to play with public/private keys API for node.js a little
15:10:19  <indutny>do we want to see it in core?
15:10:22  <indutny>isaacs: ^
15:10:37  <indutny>or should I start with a user-land module?
15:11:47  <piscisaureus_>https://github.com/bnoordhuis/libuv/commit/49e596a <-- bnoordhuis, is that in master?
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16:22:37  <isaacs>indutny: hey
16:22:44  <isaacs>sorry, been consumed with the website
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16:27:41  <isaacs>piscisaureus_: 'error' should mean that there is no end in sight
16:27:50  <isaacs>piscisaureus_: when you get an 'error' event, all bets are off.
16:27:55  <isaacs>you should gc that thing
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16:32:50  <indutny>isaacs: hey
16:33:20  <isaacs>indutny: what do you mean by "public/private keys api for node.js" exactly?
16:33:41  <isaacs>like, for minting assymetric key pairs in node?
16:33:58  <indutny>~/.ssh/id_rsa stuff
16:33:58  <indutny>yes
16:34:06  <indutny>actually, nvm
16:34:14  <indutny>already started implementing this as user-land stuff
16:34:22  <isaacs>ok
16:34:30  <isaacs>you know my answer :)
16:34:35  <isaacs>do it in userland first, then we'll see :)
16:35:03  <isaacs>if it's super useful, doesn't add any deps, and requires compiled changes, then there's a good chance to merge it in.
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16:37:16  <indutny>))
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16:40:15  <indutny>isaacs: going to use it for vock protocol encryption
16:40:32  <indutny>.ssh/known_hosts and all the stuff
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17:03:08  <isaacs>neato
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17:13:30  <CIA-108>node: Dave Pacheco v0.8 * rfe659a6 / doc/blog/Uncategorized/profiling-node-js.md : update profiling blog post to use shell redirection instead of -o - http://git.io/KnINIA
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17:15:22  <CIA-108>node: isaacs v0.8 * rfd56981 / (78 files in 6 dirs): blog: Remove all windows line endings once and for all - http://git.io/wnKGSg
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20:33:15  <piscisaureus__>bnoordhuis: when are you coming tomorrow?
20:33:49  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus__: around noon(ish)
20:33:58  <piscisaureus__>ok
20:34:05  <piscisaureus__>bnoordhuis: interesting word :-)
20:35:33  <piscisaureus__>OK.
20:35:37  <piscisaureus__>I am off for the day
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22:46:08  <piscisaureus_>isaacs: 0.8.5 due tomorrow?
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22:50:49  <isaacs>piscisaureus_: yeah
22:50:57  <piscisaureus_>alright
22:50:58  <isaacs>piscisaureus_: there's a lot of libuv changes
22:51:02  <piscisaureus_>yeah
22:51:07  <piscisaureus_>I will review the changelog :-p
22:51:09  <isaacs>k
22:51:17  <isaacs>you'll probably want to squash some of these.
22:51:22  <piscisaureus_>Yeah
22:51:28  <isaacs>otherwise it'll lok like you rewrote windows ;P
22:51:30  <piscisaureus_>I had to fix many of my own errors in the process
22:51:50  <piscisaureus_>well I think the patch was effectively +600 -600
22:51:57  <piscisaureus_>so it was a big chunk
22:52:26  <isaacs>heh
22:52:32  <isaacs>1200 impact!
22:52:40  <isaacs>a winnar is you!
22:52:48  <piscisaureus_>effectively it will be 2 lines or so :-)
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22:52:50  <piscisaureus_>hah
22:52:56  <piscisaureus_>isaacs: yeah I have to make up for some stuff
22:53:39  <piscisaureus_>otherwise I will drop on the ego charts
22:55:39  <piscisaureus_>Speaking of charts
22:56:24  <piscisaureus_>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/kelly-keisling-tennessee-obama-rumor_n_1725053.html?1343768099 <-- a new height in US wtf politics
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23:13:37  <bnoordhuis>https://github.com/bnoordhuis/node/compare/v0.8...python-installer <- thoughts? fix for #3807
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23:15:56  <bnoordhuis>https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/3812 <- PR
23:19:14  <TooTallNate>wow nice stuff ben! :)
23:19:30  <TooTallNate>even after telling the guy it wouldn't be fixed :p
23:24:23  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: oii
23:24:32  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: it's probably a good thing
23:24:46  <piscisaureus_>but I like our tooling to be in js. :'-(
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23:25:31  <yanush>ahoy
23:25:43  <piscisaureus_>hey yanush
23:25:50  <yanush>hi :)
23:25:57  <yanush>this is slightly better i guess
23:26:05  <yanush>was just writing to you that there is no diff in version
23:26:10  <yanush>except in the powershell version
23:26:18  <piscisaureus_>ah
23:26:23  <yanush>mine is 0.6.0 and yours is 0.6.1
23:26:31  <yanush>so I doubt its the source of the problem
23:26:47  <piscisaureus_>yanush: yeah, so to be honest I have no clue how this azure stuff works :-)
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23:27:02  <yanush>glenn just wrote on git you can share the remote vm details with me privately
23:27:08  <piscisaureus_>yanush: I was just going to stick a debugger on and see what is going on... but that doesn't help when there is no failure
23:27:11  <yanush>let me have a look maybe ill spot something
23:27:27  <bnoordhuis>TooTallNate: yeah, changed my mind :)
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23:29:33  <CIA-108>node: Gil Pedersen v0.8 * rf1fba8d / (lib/fs.js test/simple/test-fs-read-stream.js): fs: fix ReadStream / WriteStream missing callback - https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/f1fba8d1f5e7411f055c00ca4b46646e5b840cf2
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23:38:10  <CIA-108>node: Ben Noordhuis v0.8 * r53f3b12 / src/node.h : node: tag Encode and friends NODE_EXTERN - https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/53f3b128f5efd5fdca2dcab9ff3e5d3e2b9debf1
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