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00:48:34  <piscisaureus>skype for linux sucks monkey balls
00:50:56  <piscisaureus>indutny: cool secret project btw :-)
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09:24:50  <indutny>papertigers: oops
09:24:58  <indutny>papertigers: just noticed that it was bad tab completion
09:24:59  <indutny>sorry
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11:18:28  <indutny>bnoordhuis: hoya
11:18:37  <indutny>bnoordhuis: that guys with mutexes
11:18:42  <indutny>that was really funny
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11:52:45  <piscisaureus_>hello
11:55:06  <indutny>piscisaureus_: o hai
11:55:59  <piscisaureus_>ryah:
11:56:05  <piscisaureus_>should you not be sleeping?
12:00:55  <indutny>piscisaureus_: I think he is
12:01:08  <indutny>piscisaureus_: how are you today?
12:01:13  <piscisaureus_>I think he tweeted 2 minutes ago
12:01:18  <piscisaureus_>indutny: monday....
12:01:20  <piscisaureus_>indutny: I'm fine
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12:13:06  <indutny>piscisaureus_: dus wat doe je vandaag?
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12:13:46  <piscisaureus_>indutny: beetje werken aan runjs, en aan het optimalizeren van de http stack
12:14:15  <indutny>oh, leuk
12:14:26  <indutny>what's runjs?
12:14:43  <piscisaureus_>indutny: serves the same purpose as forever
12:14:56  <piscisaureus_>it's sort of my responsibility to maintain that here
12:15:10  <indutny>ah
12:15:11  <indutny>ok
12:15:50  <piscisaureus_>indutny: but that takes very little time. Node is my main job
12:16:06  <indutny>yeah, I know
12:16:07  <piscisaureus_>indutny: I am going to an experiment where the js layer is bypassed for http header parsing
12:16:25  <indutny>that's definitely a nice thing to try out
12:16:27  <piscisaureus_>indutny: I think it could yield very big wins
12:16:34  <indutny>piscisaureus_: are you going to populate js object in C++?
12:16:38  <piscisaureus_>yeah
12:16:39  <indutny>piscisaureus_: I mean headers object
12:16:41  <piscisaureus_>yes
12:16:49  <indutny>ok
12:17:17  <piscisaureus_>indutny: so on my computer i get about 9000 r/s (without keepalive) for bytes/100
12:17:32  <indutny>w/o patch?
12:17:43  <piscisaureus_>indutny: but if I just listen with net.createServer() and send a canned response I get like 14000 r/s
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12:18:15  <piscisaureus_>indutny: but when I profile < 2% is spent in http_parser
12:18:20  <piscisaureus_>so the rest must be overhead
12:18:27  <indutny>are you using statistical profiler?
12:18:30  <piscisaureus_>yeah
12:18:35  <indutny>so so bad
12:18:38  <indutny>try callgrind
12:18:40  <indutny>and callgrind.js
12:18:46  <piscisaureus_>nah
12:18:57  <piscisaureus_>why is that bad?
12:19:14  <indutny>because it's statistical
12:19:25  <indutny>true profilers doesn't use statistics
12:19:26  <piscisaureus_>I can do an instrumented build but in my experience it doesn't tell me much about where time is actually spent
12:19:37  <indutny>piscisaureus_: well, yeah
12:19:45  <indutny>your own benchmark results looks really trustful
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12:28:24  <piscisaureus_>indutny: you're being cynical again, arent you?
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12:30:34  <indutny>nope
12:30:49  <indutny>thiz is jast my engrish
12:30:57  <indutny>don't know how to explain thoughts better
12:31:11  <piscisaureus>poor sod
12:31:40  <indutny>I meant that if you've seen performance improvement yourself - it seems to be truthworthy betrouwbaar
12:31:52  <piscisaureus>ah, like that
12:31:57  <piscisaureus>ok, nice :-)
12:32:01  <indutny>but if you're going to rely on v8's profiler
12:32:02  <piscisaureus>now to actually make it woork
12:32:04  <indutny>I'm not going to trust it
12:32:07  <piscisaureus>indutny: ooh
12:32:07  <indutny>:)
12:32:17  <piscisaureus>indutny: no I use the VS sampling profiler
12:32:26  <piscisaureus>indutny: it's pretty good actually
12:32:28  <indutny>ah
12:32:34  <indutny>well, may be
12:32:36  <indutny>who knows
12:32:37  <indutny>:)
12:32:40  <piscisaureus>you can configure the number of clock cycles between samples
12:32:40  <indutny>never used it
12:32:51  <indutny>yeah, timer resolution
12:33:03  <indutny>good thing
12:35:20  <piscisaureus>I don't like the http_parser interface
12:35:25  <piscisaureus>stupid callbacks :-(
12:36:46  <piscisaureus>Actually I don't like the libuv interface either
12:36:51  <piscisaureus>Streams should just be streams
12:37:01  <piscisaureus>I'm afraid I have to fix this first
12:37:32  <indutny>haha
12:38:12  <indutny>what do you mean by "just streams"
12:38:27  <piscisaureus>uv_pipe_t, uv_tcp_t
12:38:33  <indutny>oh that
12:38:39  <indutny>yeah, it's really tricky
12:38:50  <piscisaureus>if I want to attach the parser to a "raw" libuv object there better be just 1 type of object
12:52:39  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: hey, yt?
12:52:43  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus: yes
12:53:00  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: I want to ask you for some feedback
12:53:16  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus: i'll get my electric guitar
12:53:21  <piscisaureus_>har har har
12:53:28  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: so I am adding this "request queue" to all stream handles in uv-win
12:53:49  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: so I am thinking about getting rid of the endgame
12:54:18  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: instread, insert some sort of "sentinel" into the request queue that signifies close operation
12:54:30  <piscisaureus_>do you think that is a good idea or is it too nonobvious?
12:54:40  <bnoordhuis>seems sensible enough
12:56:46  <piscisaureus>bnoordhuis: ok, thanks
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13:22:06  <indutny>piscisaureus: dunno
13:22:16  <indutny>piscisaureus: I thought they've rolled stuff back
13:27:57  <piscisaureus_>did this memory overflow issue get sorted out?
13:28:13  <indutny>piscisaureus: idk
13:28:21  <indutny>ircretary: tell mjr_ to ping us
13:28:21  <ircretary>indutny: I'll be sure to tell mjr_
13:28:27  <indutny>ircretary: tell mjr to ping us too
13:28:27  <ircretary>indutny: I'll be sure to tell mjr
13:42:31  <CIA-130>libuv: Bert Belder master * r0bbccbc / (src/win/internal.h src/win/tcp.c): windows: remove the UV_HANDLE_SHUT flag - http://git.io/cXC_6w
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14:05:13  <piscisaureus_>on unix, what happens if you try to write to a gracefully disconnected socket?
14:06:41  <indutny>piscisaureus: EPIPE
14:06:53  <indutny>and SIGPIPE
14:06:59  <piscisaureus_>ah, right
14:07:31  <piscisaureus_>EPIJP
14:07:43  <indutny>?
14:07:54  <indutny>japan metal band?
14:09:56  <piscisaureus_>indutny: э трубопровод
14:10:04  <indutny>hahahahaha
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15:18:20  <indutny>oh, nice
15:18:26  <indutny>that's why you was asking
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17:20:26  <tjfontaine>blah
17:20:28  <tjfontaine>wc -l lib/_http*
17:20:28  <tjfontaine> 155 lib/_http_agent.js
17:20:28  <tjfontaine> 532 lib/_http_client.js
17:20:28  <tjfontaine> 918 lib/_http_common.js
17:20:30  <tjfontaine> 362 lib/_http_server.js
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17:23:10  <indutny>tjfontaine: wut?
17:23:21  <indutny>have you split http?
17:23:42  <tjfontaine>indutny: ya
17:24:55  <tjfontaine>common still feels a bit heavy
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18:02:45  <indutny>Assertion failed: (0), function uv__finish_close, file ../deps/uv/src/unix/core.c, line 159.
18:02:46  <indutny>nice :D
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18:18:41  <piscisaureus_>indutny: another unix question
18:18:48  <indutny>piscisaureus_: shoot
18:19:29  <piscisaureus_>indutny: what happens if I try to read() from a socket that has been shutdown with SHUT_RD
18:19:47  <indutny>EPIPE
18:19:50  <indutny>hahaha
18:22:36  <indutny>oh
18:22:37  <indutny>no
18:22:39  <indutny>I lied
18:22:41  <indutny>it'll return zero
18:22:46  <indutny>i.e. EOF
18:22:49  <indutny>piscisaureus_: ^^
18:22:49  <indutny>sorry
18:23:24  <piscisaureus_>ah hmm
18:24:02  <piscisaureus_>ok
18:24:14  <piscisaureus_>indutny: what will happen if I try to read() a listening socket?
18:24:17  <piscisaureus_>ENOTCONN?
18:25:14  <indutny>man, that is a hard question
18:25:17  <indutny>bnoordhuis: ^^
18:25:26  <indutny>I can test it
18:26:04  <indutny>probably EBADF
18:26:10  <indutny>it should not be read, I suppose
18:26:46  <piscisaureus>indutny: I think EBADF is only returned when the fd is really invalid
18:26:47  <indutny>ah
18:26:50  <indutny>yeah
18:26:58  <indutny>looks like ENOTCONN is most appropriate
18:27:02  <indutny>lets try
18:32:54  <indutny>piscisaureus: ENOTCONN
18:32:56  <indutny>at least on osx
18:33:05  <piscisaureus>indutny: that's good I suppose
18:33:06  <piscisaureus>thanks
18:33:12  <indutny>np
18:33:21  <indutny>yeah, this sounds reasonable
18:35:04  <indutny>piscisaureus: are you on windows now?
18:35:16  <piscisaureus>yessiro
18:40:47  <indutny>why do you need to know about linux stuff then? :D
18:47:02  <piscisaureus>indutny: because I want to make uv-win sensible
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19:16:22  <piscisaureus>^-- indutny: that's what I needed it for
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19:22:47  <indutny>piscisaureus: nice
19:22:53  <indutny>error mirroring in windows part
19:22:58  <indutny>big kudos to you
19:23:48  <piscisaureus><3
19:26:46  <indutny>piscisaureus: I wonder why I'm receiving this in vock "Assertion failed: (!uv__is_active(handle)), function uv__finish_close, file ../deps/uv/src/unix/core.c, line 128."
19:26:59  <indutny>piscisaureus: closing something that should not be closed?
19:27:33  <piscisaureus>hmm
19:28:06  <indutny>it's hard to reproduce
19:28:18  <indutny>otherwise I won't be asking
19:29:10  <piscisaureus>indutny: well, it means that the handle is being closed while it still has pending reqs
19:29:35  <piscisaureus>indutny: so somewhere in uv-unix a check is missing, or you clobbered memory
19:29:47  <piscisaureus>indutny: what type of handle is this?
19:29:58  <indutny>ok, let me try exploring core dumps
19:30:01  <indutny>hadn't did that before
19:30:26  <piscisaureus>indutny: can you show me the handle->flags field?
19:30:37  <indutny>piscisaureus: one sec
19:31:01  <piscisaureus>indutny: also the handle->type field
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19:41:10  <piscisaureus>I have to go
19:41:18  <piscisaureus>tty later
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19:49:57  <indutny>see ya
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20:25:56  <piscisaureus_>aaand baack
20:29:47  <indutny>cool
20:29:55  <indutny>I still haven't reproduced that error
20:29:56  <indutny>:D
20:30:03  <indutny>racey errors are so racey
20:37:53  <piscisaureus_>haha
20:38:22  <piscisaureus_>there should be a tool that introduces random variations in thread timing
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21:38:29  <bnoordhuis>indutny: read on listen socket? ENOTCONN
21:42:00  <bnoordhuis>it's possible on some unices to have a listen socket connect to an address:port btw
21:42:05  <bnoordhuis>in that case you'd get data :)
21:42:48  <bnoordhuis>but at least on linux calling connect(listen_fd) returns EINVAL
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22:09:23  <piscisaureus_>D:\libuv>start uv.sln
22:09:23  <piscisaureus_>Access is denied. <-- EWA!!?
22:09:31  <indutny>hahaha
22:09:32  <indutny>uv sin
22:10:27  <piscisaureus_>indutny: did you figure out the assertion failure?
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22:14:30  <piscisaureus_>http://www.freshports.org/devel/libinotify
22:33:35  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: so we agreed that uv_tcp_connect could "jump the queue" and be executed before uv_write calls right?
22:34:00  <piscisaureus_>it makes queue management so hard :'-(
22:34:03  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: yes
22:34:16  <bnoordhuis>uv-unix already does that :)
22:34:22  <piscisaureus_>grr
22:34:30  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: so how does packager work?
22:34:39  <piscisaureus_>I have no clue
22:34:40  <bnoordhuis>it keeps complaining that apf is missing
22:34:45  <piscisaureus_>ah
22:34:57  <piscisaureus_>did you try to use the tool that shall not be named?
22:34:58  <bnoordhuis>which i have checked out
22:35:02  <bnoordhuis>oh god, no
22:35:16  <piscisaureus_>try that
22:35:16  <bnoordhuis>i'll save it for tomorrow then, i don't want nightmares
22:35:23  <piscisaureus_>otherwise, try to install cloud9infra
22:35:30  <piscisaureus_>it bundles packager also
22:35:37  <bnoordhuis>ah okay, i have that somewhere
22:35:44  <piscisaureus_>but I suppose you should get up early if you want to install that
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22:43:17  <CIA-130>node: Atsuya Takagi v0.8 * r9f57e42 / doc/api/cluster.markdown : doc: fix typo in api/cluster - http://git.io/WkseQQ
22:43:30  <piscisaureus_>it's sad tho that Miguel and Linus got it both wrong
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23:08:51  <bnoordhuis>Corrupted MAC on input.
23:08:51  <bnoordhuis>Disconnecting: Packet corrupt
23:08:57  <bnoordhuis>^ joyent, you suck >:(
23:09:12  <bnoordhuis>keeps doing that whenever the console scrolls for a bit
23:09:59  <bnoordhuis>and logging in again takes 30 seconds or more... what do those guys do to ssh?
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23:24:53  <CIA-130>libuv: Ben Noordhuis master * rb101a53 / src/unix/tcp.c : sunos: don't set TCP_KEEPALIVE - http://git.io/0ad1sQ
23:24:54  <CIA-130>libuv: Ben Noordhuis master * r3bbe8f9 / src/unix/tcp.c : Merge branch 'v0.8' - http://git.io/T1BLHg
23:24:55  <CIA-130>libuv: Ben Noordhuis v0.8 * rb101a53 / src/unix/tcp.c : sunos: don't set TCP_KEEPALIVE - http://git.io/0ad1sQ
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23:26:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#643 (master - 3bbe8f9 : Ben Noordhuis): The build passed.
23:26:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/032c04179033...3bbe8f975417
23:26:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/2324961
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23:26:38  <piscisaureus_>hey indutny
23:26:40  <piscisaureus_>yt?
23:26:48  <piscisaureus_>I need you to translate some russian for me
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23:26:50  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#644 (v0.8 - b101a53 : Ben Noordhuis): The build was broken.
23:26:50  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/24c062cc3e70...b101a53e6ef8
23:26:50  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/2324963
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23:27:01  <bnoordhuis>broken?
23:27:36  <bnoordhuis>oh, it's travis that's broken
23:28:03  <piscisaureus_>ho ho ho
23:28:05  <piscisaureus_>excuses
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23:39:03  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: I wonder if mosh works on smartos, if so I'd be interested to see if that helps your issue :)
23:39:38  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: is that the udp based ssh clone?
23:39:50  <tjfontaine>yes, it still uses ssh for negotiation
23:40:04  <tjfontaine>https://github.com/keithw/mosh/issues/177 seems it was added at one point
23:40:26  <bnoordhuis>maybe i'll try it sometime
23:40:29  <bnoordhuis>but not tonight :)
23:40:36  <tjfontaine>hehe
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