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00:43:59  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: hmm, you don't think gyp ldflags would work for the ordering of whole-archive?
00:47:01  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: i couldn't get it to work
00:48:43  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: so sad
00:51:38  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: i know, right? we may have to patch gyp for that
00:52:15  <bnoordhuis>btw, gyp does support --whole-archive, but only when type==shared_library
00:52:19  <bnoordhuis>(which kind of makes sense)
00:52:26  <tjfontaine>did you try explicitly with -Wl?
00:52:31  <bnoordhuis>yes
00:52:39  <tjfontaine>those bastards
00:52:45  <tjfontaine>trying to be smarter than us
00:56:01  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: hm, it may be another flag that's breaking things
00:56:33  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: what/where/how?
00:57:12  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: I'm not sure, but there's no explicit stripping of it
00:57:51  <tjfontaine># (Note that --whole-archive is incompatible with the --start-group used in
00:57:52  <tjfontaine># normal linking.)
00:58:37  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: no, but you can't control where exactly gyp inserts --whole-archive
00:58:57  <bnoordhuis>you want it selectively, i.e. only for libopenssl.a, but i couldn't get that to work
00:59:08  <bnoordhuis>s/only for/around/
00:59:23  <tjfontaine>hm right
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06:32:59  <ryah>hey
06:33:00  <ryah>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGn60vDSxQ4
06:33:04  <ryah>^-- this should go in the readme
06:33:11  <ryah>it's great
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06:49:00  <indutny>haha
06:49:13  <indutny>ryah: btw, looks like ab is not really trustful
06:49:23  <indutny>siege just give me around 4000 req/sec results
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06:51:00  <indutny>fuck
07:17:02  <ryah>is siege saturating the cpus?
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07:23:01  <indutny>ryah: looks like so
07:24:43  <indutny>I'm doing more precise benchmark with it atm
07:24:50  <indutny>and with smaller steps
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08:50:31  <ryah>indutny: does ab saturatee the cpus?
08:50:50  <indutny>ryah: looks like no :D
08:50:54  <ryah>;)
08:50:55  <indutny>ryah: you mean ab itself?
08:51:01  <ryah>yeah
08:51:04  <indutny>hm...
08:51:06  <indutny>I think it is
08:51:10  <indutny>but not all cpus
08:51:12  <indutny>just one core
08:51:22  <ryah>what about for the server?
08:51:38  <ryah>does seige or ab drive them to higher cpu?
08:51:48  <indutny>ryah: siege does
08:51:53  <ryah>mm okay
08:51:58  <indutny>ryah: wanna see benchmarks?
08:52:03  <ryah>yes
08:52:30  <indutny>ryah: shared google doc with you, check email
08:52:58  <indutny>ryah: they're no as good with siege
08:53:01  <indutny>surprisingly
08:53:08  <indutny>looks like tlsnappy sucks and https works fine :D
08:53:16  <indutny>I don't know what to trust anymore
08:53:19  <ryah>sheet1 is ab and sheet2 is seige?
08:53:57  <indutny>ryah: yes
08:54:21  <indutny>ryah: siege results seems to be more trustable
08:54:31  <ryah>very nice
08:54:38  <ryah>you should write a blog post
08:54:46  <ryah>explain some thoughts about this
08:54:51  <ryah>it's interesting for people
08:54:56  <indutny>well, I need to think about it before :)
08:55:02  <indutny>something is odd here
08:55:08  <ryah>explain what is odd
08:55:15  <indutny>hah
08:55:16  <indutny>ok
08:55:19  <indutny>later
08:55:23  <indutny>I need some other results
08:55:27  <ryah>ok:)
08:55:28  <indutny>hybrid mode of tlsnappy
08:55:29  <indutny>btw
08:55:31  <ryah>really enjoying looking at this
08:55:33  <ryah>it's awesome
08:55:42  <indutny>https2 is benchmark with 4kb page
08:55:44  <ryah>this is the sort fo work which drives development
08:55:52  <indutny>while all other (w/o 2) are 11 bytes pages
08:55:58  <ryah>how big is the nginx response?
08:56:00  <ryah>ok
08:56:08  <indutny>the same
08:56:09  <ryah>have you compared the headers of all?
08:56:12  <indutny>oh
08:56:14  <indutny>headers...
08:56:15  <indutny>hm...
08:56:20  <indutny>well
08:56:24  <indutny>I'm using echo module for nginx
08:56:28  <indutny>so body is exactly the same
08:56:35  <indutny>and it's not wasting time in fs
08:56:45  <ryah>hit it with curl -i
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08:58:02  <indutny>yes
08:58:05  <indutny>that's what I'm doing
08:58:36  <indutny>nginx is sending a little bit more :D
08:58:43  <ryah>all the headers need to be exactly the same
08:59:20  <ryah>would be interesting if you measured the cpu time
08:59:21  <indutny>I understand
08:59:25  <indutny>ok
08:59:26  <indutny>ttyl
08:59:27  <ryah>for the server when you're running seige
08:59:30  <ryah>:)
08:59:35  <ryah>k later
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19:28:20  <piscisaureus_>It's a good thing that joyent does maintenance on sunday mornings
19:28:43  <piscisaureus_>a pattern is emerging
19:29:06  <mmalecki>heh
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19:29:43  <piscisaureus_>my beloved slurp always looses connectivity sunday morning (afternoon here)
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19:31:07  <piscisaureus_>I really can't look it my own talk. I am trying to get over it but I have to fight the urge to go away all the time.
19:33:51  <ryah>piscisaureus_: it's a good talk
19:34:02  <ryah>very well presented
19:34:14  <ryah>piscisaureus_: can you please add a link to the libuv readme?
19:34:24  <piscisaureus_>I will
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19:35:26  <piscisaureus_>ryah: I believe you when you say it's good. But really, this psychological effect is very strong :-)
19:36:38  <ryah>yes, i know that feeling
19:36:48  <ryah>i can't watch my talks either
19:38:17  <mmalecki>yeah, same here
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19:39:37  <ryah>i think the video is the first well recorded talk of how to get into libuv
19:39:41  <ryah>explaining what it's for very well
19:39:45  <ryah>and also going into code
19:39:51  <ryah>it's going to be very useful for adoption
19:40:03  <ryah>because people like the gevent guy can just go watch it
19:40:31  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: piscisaureus_: i just watched both your talks this morning :)
19:40:36  <TooTallNate>both very good
19:40:38  <piscisaureus_>both?
19:40:43  <TooTallNate>indeed
19:40:46  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: aw, thanks
19:40:48  <ryah>libuv should have the goal of replacing all uses of libev libevent and boost:asio
19:40:48  <indutny>TooTallNate: you wasn't at lxjs too?
19:40:54  <TooTallNate>indutny: no :(
19:41:00  <indutny>yeah, me too
19:41:02  <indutny>unfortunatelly
19:41:03  <mmalecki>I myself think that my talk was shitty
19:41:07  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: I am not aware of any other of my talks being online
19:41:09  <indutny>mmalecki: ++
19:41:13  <mmalecki>but well, whatever, people actually like it
19:41:13  <indutny>haha
19:41:25  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: ya what's up with the nodeconf one?
19:41:36  <indutny>hm...
19:41:38  <piscisaureus_>I don't know
19:41:45  <indutny>I don't think there're a lot of nodeconf talks out there
19:41:47  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: you watched it so I suppose you know what's up with that
19:41:49  <indutny>http://2012.nodeconf.com/
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19:41:57  <indutny>piscisaureus_: I wanted to watch you talk
19:42:06  <indutny>but mikeal seems to be too lazy for that :)
19:42:13  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: i mean they're just taking forever for the videos :p
19:42:25  <piscisaureus_>indutny: I think something went wrong while recording
19:42:36  <indutny>oh
19:42:37  <indutny>right
19:42:43  <piscisaureus_>but I think lxjs did it very well
19:42:52  <piscisaureus_>the live stream was also very good
19:43:04  <indutny>piscisaureus_: are you going to moscow?
19:43:06  <piscisaureus_>I watched some of the talks from my hotel room :-)
19:43:09  <piscisaureus_>indutny: no
19:43:22  <indutny>piscisaureus_: no, like no, or no like not right now?
19:43:30  <indutny>:)
19:43:32  <piscisaureus_>indutny: well, never say never
19:43:36  <piscisaureus_>but I have no plans
19:43:38  <indutny>piscisaureus_: ah, that no
19:43:41  <indutny>ok
19:43:50  <indutny>anyway I'll find you
19:43:51  <piscisaureus_>would you recommend it?
19:43:55  <indutny>piscisaureus_: russia?
19:43:57  <piscisaureus_>hehe
19:44:00  <indutny>piscisaureus_: sure, it's funny here
19:44:04  <piscisaureus_>come visit amsterdam some day :-)
19:44:05  <indutny>ask Jan
19:44:09  <indutny>piscisaureus_: will do
19:44:12  <piscisaureus_>he's going there again I think
19:44:16  <indutny>yeah
19:44:21  <indutny>I'll probably see him tomorrow
19:44:30  <indutny>not sure if I'll visit that event
19:44:32  <piscisaureus_>ah, cool
19:44:45  <piscisaureus_>you are sort of permanently in moscow now or whawt?
19:45:15  <indutny>now, it's just a current state of things there
19:45:29  <indutny>much better than omsk
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19:54:13  <TooTallNate>this line is confusing me… https://github.com/VFR-maniac/lame/blob/master/libmp3lame/psymodel.c#L271
19:54:33  <TooTallNate>i'm trying to build lame on windows, and that line gives me unresolved external symbol
19:55:12  <TooTallNate>understandably, since I don't see "static_assert_tab_mask_add_delta" anywhere, but i don't get how it builds on other platforms
19:55:24  <TooTallNate>or how the Makefile.MSVC file makes it work...
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19:55:53  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: ^ maybe if you have a sec :)
19:56:46  <bnoordhuis>TooTallNate: what's the exact error message that you get?
19:57:36  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: congrats on the talk
19:57:48  <piscisaureus_>thanks ben
19:57:50  <TooTallNate>(Link target) ->
19:57:50  <TooTallNate> libmp3lame.node(psymodel.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol static_assert_tab_mask_add_delta [C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\repos\node-lame\build\bindings.vcxproj]
19:57:51  <TooTallNate> C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\repos\node-lame\build\Release\bindings.node : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals [C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\repos\node-lame\build\bindings.vcxproj]
19:57:53  <TooTallNate>bnoordhuis: ^
19:58:40  <bnoordhuis>TooTallNate: ah. maybe you're compiling with the msvc equivalent of RTLD_NOW?
19:59:36  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: are you building it all statically?
19:59:43  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: yes
20:00:01  <bnoordhuis>TooTallNate: you can try something like this -> https://github.com/bnoordhuis/marnix/blob/1972332/kern.h#L44
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20:00:48  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: put your gypified version on github
20:01:21  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: https://github.com/TooTallNate/node-lame/blob/gyp/deps/lame/libmp3lame.gyp
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20:05:59  <TooTallNate>bnoordhuis: this made it build https://gist.github.com/0e8be25d80a13b9033ce
20:06:16  <TooTallNate>though i can't say i understand the preprocessor magic happening
20:07:01  <piscisaureus_>hmm
20:07:04  <piscisaureus_>4>LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'C:\Users\Bert Belder\.node-gyp\0.8.10\Release\node.lib'
20:07:05  <bnoordhuis>TooTallNate: the cpp magic is to turn __LINE__ into the actual line number, the rest is compiler magic
20:07:48  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: lol http://f.cl.ly/items/2B1C181d271P220O2U0l/Screen%20Shot%202012-09-30%20at%2011.20.04%20AM.png
20:08:32  <piscisaureus_>oh nvm
20:08:59  <piscisaureus_>reinstalling the dev files fixed it
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20:09:03  <piscisaureus_>(weird, btw)
20:09:23  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: maybe you installed during the dns fiasco
20:09:43  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: but it's weird that the install succeeded
20:09:44  <piscisaureus_>nah, it just downloaded it
20:09:51  <piscisaureus_>and then it didn't work
20:09:53  <TooTallNate>oh ok
20:10:00  <piscisaureus_>and then I removed the dev files and tried again
20:10:02  <piscisaureus_>it worked
20:10:04  <piscisaureus_>whatever
20:10:24  <piscisaureus_>ah - no
20:10:28  <piscisaureus_>I think it succeeded partially
20:10:46  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: I ran node-gyp in the wrong folder when it downloaded the dev files
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20:11:09  <piscisaureus_>so it errd because binding.gyp was not found
20:11:18  <piscisaureus_>and the dev files were probably partially installed
20:11:23  <piscisaureus_>^-- TooTallNate
20:11:40  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: interesting. i guess that could be possible…
20:11:50  <TooTallNate>maybe i'm calling process.exit() somewhere
20:13:25  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: yeah lulz
20:13:44  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: oh hey, I wanted to talk to you about node-gyp
20:14:07  <mmalecki>would you accept a pull request to make host for header files configurable?
20:14:26  <mmalecki>we want to have header files inside of our cloud, for faster access
20:14:48  <mmalecki>also, we had a serious problem when nodejs.org went down
20:14:49  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: have you tried the --nodedir flag?
20:15:04  <mmalecki>which we solved through the way of cowboy devops and /etc/hosts
20:15:13  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: nope, that wouldn't work for us
20:15:20  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: how come?
20:16:04  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: we'd have to put node source on over 3500 machines
20:16:08  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: but overall, i'd say ya i'm open to the idea
20:16:35  <mmalecki>awesome
20:16:44  <mmalecki>will do once I'm not so hungover
20:16:54  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: you guys don't have some shared read-only storage space that all instance can read from?
20:17:03  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: nope
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20:17:11  <mmalecki>well, not exposed as fs
20:18:03  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: ok, i mean a switch/env variable to change the hard-coded nodejs.org variable would be fine with me
20:18:17  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: i assumed someone would need that eventually
20:18:40  <mmalecki>cool
20:19:11  <mmalecki>drinking the strongest shot of Lisbon isn't a good idea btw
20:19:51  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: do you know of a msvc flag to make the vanilla lame code work? if not i have no problem committing bens code to my repo
20:19:52  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: lol
20:20:16  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: well, I think nothing that's not super hacky
20:20:38  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: -Dextern might work :-)
20:22:36  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: if by "work" you mean 2392 Error(s), haha
20:23:29  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: if you change that macro to use "static" instead of "extern", it'll work
20:24:22  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: indeed :)
20:24:27  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: thank you!
20:25:19  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: I don't know how it builds with nmake, I have to wade through a ton of issues
20:25:49  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: this worked for me https://gist.github.com/a238e3189a1f79df983c
20:27:02  <piscisaureus_>ah
20:27:05  <piscisaureus_>I got it to work too
20:27:17  <piscisaureus_>but for me it complained that /NOWIN98 was not a supported option
20:27:28  <piscisaureus_>and that echo. was not found
20:27:30  <piscisaureus_>and bla bla
20:32:36  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: ya i had to hack up the makefile a bit too; remove NOWIN98, %s/echo\./echo \./
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20:41:40  <TooTallNate>ok well moving on from windows now...
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20:46:35  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: sorry, I don't now.
20:47:00  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: no i'm satisfied, your s/extern/static works just fine for me
20:47:12  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: it's strange that this "extern" trick works with nmake tho - It looks like the compiler is rightfully complaining
20:47:15  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: i mean "moving on" as in time to get lame compiling on solaris
20:47:18  <piscisaureus_>yeah
20:47:24  <piscisaureus_>TooTallNate: good luck :-)
20:47:33  <TooTallNate>thanks :)
20:48:15  <TooTallNate>piscisaureus_: i'm writing a blog article about gyp-ifying c libraries (that use autoconf in this case). it'd be cool if you or bnoordhuis could proof-read when i'm done
20:48:19  <TooTallNate>probably some time tomorrow
20:48:27  <bnoordhuis>TooTallNate: sure
20:50:42  <piscisaureus_>sure
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21:49:28  <ryah>isaacs: s/LibUV/libuv in the blog post :)
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22:19:55  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: ping
22:20:12  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: wut?
22:20:37  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: feel like reviewing this? -> 45 files changed, 841 insertions(+), 19086 deletions(-)
22:20:51  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: tomorrow, I think
22:20:58  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: I am super tired
22:21:04  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: but paste me the link already
22:21:21  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: https://github.com/bnoordhuis/libuv/compare/rm-eio
22:23:15  <piscisaureus_>bnoordhuis: did I miss the part where you added another thread pool implementation?
22:23:27  <bnoordhuis>piscisaureus_: src/unix/threadpool.c
22:23:31  <bnoordhuis>it's in the patch
22:23:42  <piscisaureus_>oh, right
22:24:03  <piscisaureus_>I expected the eio removal patch to be separate from the implementation of the alternative
22:24:25  <bnoordhuis>i can split it up, no problem
22:24:47  <bnoordhuis>i'll rework the commit log anyway
22:25:36  <piscisaureus_>splitting that up seems like a good idea
22:25:38  <piscisaureus_>anyway
22:25:41  <piscisaureus_>I'll review it tomorrow
22:25:46  <piscisaureus_>going to sleep now
22:25:50  <bnoordhuis>sleep tight, bertje
22:25:57  <piscisaureus_>later, Ben
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23:18:51  <bnoordhuis>TooTallNate: nice tutorial
23:40:35  <bnoordhuis>ircretary: tell dap https://gist.github.com/e4455e6f2e2b272e5782 <- is that a bug in malloc or my code? the same code works fine when i link against libumem
23:40:35  <ircretary>bnoordhuis: I'll be sure to tell dap
23:42:08  <TooTallNate>bnoordhuis: thanks! i'll fix up with your suggestions in a bit
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