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02:07:14  <trevnorris>hello world
02:07:32  <tjfontaine>word up
02:08:44  <trevnorris>how was nodeconf?
02:09:27  <tjfontaine>hot and fun
02:09:57  <trevnorris>cool
02:10:05  <tjfontaine>not exactly cool :P
02:10:07  <tjfontaine>sweaty :)
02:11:00  <trevnorris>heh
02:11:18  <tjfontaine>I unfortunately didn't get to attend any other sessions though, as the I was helping in required a bit more hand holding
02:12:36  <trevnorris>ah, too bad.
02:12:43  <trevnorris>will videos be posted of the talks?
02:13:11  <tjfontaine>nah, because they weren't really talks, everyone who ran a session did it 8 times, 6 on friday, 2 on saturday
02:13:55  <tjfontaine>but there was a video being made, they were going around interviewing attendees and what not, I think that's supposed to end up being available
02:14:16  <trevnorris>holy crap. how many people attended?
02:14:27  <tjfontaine>supposed to be around 320 I think
02:14:40  <tjfontaine>40 people a class is what we were supposed to plan for
02:21:48  <trevnorris>wow
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16:18:24  <tjfontaine>oh it's first thing monday morning, guess it's time to fix the windows build slave
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16:20:58  <indutny>:)
16:23:42  <TooTallNate>sounds about right
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16:42:46  <tellnes>Hello, do you guys need anything from me here? https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/5730
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17:38:40  <groundwater>@isaacs: if i'm writing a test to listen on a unix-socket, is there a convention for choosing the socket name? i.e. similar to how my test should listen on common.PORT
17:38:52  <bnoordhuis>groundwater: common.PIPE
17:39:00  <groundwater>bnoordhuis: thanks!
17:39:05  <bnoordhuis>np :)
17:39:17  <tjfontaine>ben is always so fast on the draw
17:40:14  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: while you're here, i'm probably replacing libuv's makefile with autotools
17:40:35  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: excellent, I had a conversation with bert about that over the weekend
17:40:42  <bnoordhuis>oh? do tell!
17:40:51  <mmalecki>god no
17:40:56  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: so is the undocument API just more efficient basically?
17:40:58  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: well, it's not entirely too excellent, I hate autoconf, it's just that it makes it easier for inclusion by others
17:40:59  <TooTallNate>creates less objects?
17:41:04  <mmalecki>why'd you change makefile with autotools?
17:41:10  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: yes, and it's TheAPI for core use
17:41:30  <bnoordhuis>mmalecki: because i get tired of duplicating things in the makefile that autotools gives you for free
17:41:43  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: so what's `this` then?
17:41:44  <TooTallNate>a fn?
17:41:45  <bnoordhuis>like easy shared+static building, install targets, etc.
17:41:58  <bnoordhuis>it's not that i don't hate autotools
17:42:04  <bnoordhuis>but it's the lesser evil
17:42:24  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: well, in our current usage it's only ever a net socket, so there will be some boilerplate he'll have to provide, but using utcDate is reasonably sane
17:46:41  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: i think i'm getting it... so `this` is just an object that keeps track of the timer state, and what determines the callback function that gets invoked?
17:47:28  <MI6>joyent/node: Brian White v0.10 * dc3c2d1 : zlib: level can be negative (+1 more commits) - http://git.io/qzwOVg
17:48:21  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: the object should have an _onTimeout
17:48:35  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: ahhh, makes sense then
17:49:05  <tjfontaine>I commented on the issue with more information like that
17:50:19  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: p.s. `this` is not the utcDate function ;)
17:50:21  <TooTallNate>it's `global`
17:50:43  <tjfontaine>well anyway righ
17:50:44  <tjfontaine>t
17:50:53  <tjfontaine>just quickly typing to brain dump :)
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17:51:47  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: no thanks for the explanation!
17:51:56  <TooTallNate>obviously i'm falling behind on some of this stuff :p
17:52:16  <tjfontaine>hehe, it's ok, isaacs forgot it existed as well :)
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17:55:17  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: i think this is right... https://github.com/TooTallNate/node/commit/c838cc7564eebe2654d2db313d4978439b4b8db8
17:56:37  <tjfontaine>right, that looks about the size of it
17:58:02  <TooTallNate>don't really wanna steal that guy's thunder though so i'll let him take a stab at is as well :D
17:58:57  <tjfontaine>aye, more people fixing bugs in core the better off we are :)
17:59:24  <MI6>nodejs-v0.10: #264 UNSTABLE smartos-x64 (2/592) osx-ia32 (216/592) smartos-ia32 (1/592) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-v0.10/264/
17:59:54  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: and ya, I mean, I think we're just working a bit too hard on keeping everyone else happy with libuv integration and our makefile
18:03:37  <MI6>nodejs-v0.10-windows: #93 FAILURE windows-x64 (10/592) windows-ia32 (9/592) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-v0.10-windows/93/
18:03:58  <tjfontaine>sigh
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20:42:48  <mordy_>question: are there plans to expose "immediate completion" via the API?
20:44:46  <indutny>immediate completion?
20:45:11  <mordy_>specifically in the case of writes (and less often, connects), the socket buffer often has sufficient space
20:46:07  <mordy_>for applications which perform a lot of small writes it can potentially increase performance quite a bit if there's no pseudo-loop with a callback when in fact the actual send() succeeded immediately
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20:51:44  <mordy_>though admittedly knowing "you'll always have a callback" simplifies application design, it's nice to have the option
20:51:57  <mordy_>as i'm running into this issue when using IOCP directly
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21:50:57  <MI6>joyent/libuv: bnoordhuis created branch autotools - http://git.io/dF2v8A
21:51:03  <bnoordhuis>dum dum dum
21:51:13  <tjfontaine>and so it begins
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21:52:15  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: i guess you have to update jenkins once it lands? it'll need to do `sh autogen.sh && ./configure && make check`
21:52:35  <bnoordhuis>the check target may require some love, it doesn't output tap
21:52:36  <tjfontaine>aye, I will do that in a moment
21:52:53  <tjfontaine>well, in libuv that is based on an env variable anyway
21:53:20  <bnoordhuis>right
21:53:37  <bnoordhuis>i noticed that on os x, it uses some test driver that hides the output by default
21:53:47  <tjfontaine>hm
21:53:57  <tjfontaine>oh oh autotools has a test thing
21:54:10  <bnoordhuis>yep
21:54:12  <tjfontaine>k
21:58:37  <tjfontaine>https://github.com/tjfontaine/node/compare/tls-hello-parser-failure
21:58:48  <tjfontaine>but I'm not sure if that's the best way to test that
21:59:07  <tjfontaine>hmm I need to fix the commit message
22:00:17  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: "shouldn't hang open"?
22:01:14  <bnoordhuis>what does your commit try to fix?
22:01:15  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: right I'm fixing that, basically the test was timing out on the build drone because the client had closed but never errored, as we could flush the entire buffer through
22:01:54  <bnoordhuis>oh? that 1 MB buffer went through in one pass?
22:01:58  <tjfontaine>yup
22:02:13  <bnoordhuis>okay. well, lgtm in that case then
22:02:33  <tjfontaine>so the on('close', function(hadError){}) is the way to make it stop timing out, and then to delay a write is to make it actually pass
22:02:44  <tjfontaine>k just going to clean up this commit message to reflect all this
22:02:47  <mordy_>hrm, i need a windows expert here. i'm trying to trace through uv functions to see how it gets socket errors via GetQueuedCompletionStatusEx -- can someone care to explain? (there's no problems or anything, i'm just curious)
22:03:14  <tjfontaine>bert is probably still flying, or soon to be landing
22:04:28  <bnoordhuis>mordy_: what do you want to know? not the resident windows expert but i'll try
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22:08:01  <mordy_>bnoordhuis: this function http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa364988(v=vs.85).aspx populates an array of 'OVERLAPPED_ENTRY'; (this seems to be used in core.c) -- however the entry (or any of its subfields) have no way to report error information. it seems that UV checks the ent.lpOverlapped.Internal field (which according to docs "Currently" contains error info) and then calls uv_ntstatus_to_winsock_error which looks really scary
22:08:21  <mordy_>(the latter function is in winsock.c - it's called after traversing a bunch of macros)
22:09:30  * mordy_notes how scary and sparse the information for all of this is
22:09:36  <bnoordhuis>mordy_: yep, that pretty much sums it up :)
22:10:47  <MI6>joyent/node: Timothy J Fontaine master * 6f8ddf3 : test: fix tls-hello-parser-failure on smartos - http://git.io/NBY6_w
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22:14:09  <mordy_>hrm, maybe i'll just copy/paste those bits. BOOL PASCAL FAR MakeSacrificialGoatOfferingToBillGates(GOAT __in__ lpGoat)
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22:17:48  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: https://gist.github.com/tjfontaine/5905120
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22:26:11  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: is that on smartos?
22:27:54  <tjfontaine>yes
22:28:04  <tjfontaine>and run-tests doesn't link on osx or smartos
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22:33:53  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: weird. wfm on os x
22:34:06  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: what smartos server can i test on?
22:34:56  <tjfontaine>https://gist.github.com/tjfontaine/5905228
22:35:20  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: smartos-drone 165.225.128.184
22:35:23  <tjfontaine>user root
22:36:32  <MI6>nodejs-master-windows: #88 UNSTABLE windows-x64 (20/609) windows-ia32 (17/609) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-master-windows/88/
22:37:55  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: btw, try `make check`
22:38:05  <tjfontaine>k
22:38:25  <tjfontaine>make check appears to be working
22:40:12  <tjfontaine>make check has a pretty output heh
22:40:51  <bnoordhuis>no aclocal on that smartos drone?
22:41:42  <bnoordhuis>ah - it's got autoconf installed but not automake
22:41:48  <tjfontaine>hmm that env is slightly older
22:42:04  <bnoordhuis>no biggie, just installed it
22:42:16  <tjfontaine>k
22:46:35  <indutny>tjfontaine: yes
22:46:43  <indutny>tjfontaine: what's up?
22:46:50  <indutny>bnoordhuis: autotools?
22:46:55  <tjfontaine>indutny: http://git.io/NBY6_w
22:47:05  <indutny>bnoordhuis: you're going to use autoconf/automake for libuv?
22:47:51  <bnoordhuis>indutny: yes
22:49:24  <indutny>tjfontaine: lgtm
22:50:33  <tjfontaine>ya, it did land, I didn't realize it was also failing on v0.10 as well though, so I should backport it
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22:57:44  <indutny>ok
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23:04:50  <tjfontaine>^^ cut test suite runs by 50%
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23:14:19  <tjfontaine>wtf osx.
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23:22:31  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Ben Noordhuis autotools * ddd7e04 : build: switch to autotools - http://git.io/h6UmYg
23:22:40  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: ^ should work better now
23:22:44  <bnoordhuis>on aix as well :)
23:22:47  <tjfontaine>heh
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23:42:27  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: things are looking pretty good, and the CI should do the right thing as well, libuv-review uses gyp though
23:44:14  <bnoordhuis>tjfontaine: what does libuv-review do? is that when i push a branch to joyent/node?
23:45:15  <bnoordhuis>err, joyent/libuv
23:45:16  <tjfontaine>supposed to, it needs to be smarter, it's using the refs/heads notation and that doesn't always work how I want
23:45:34  <MI6>libuv-review: #21 UNSTABLE windows-ia32 (3/191) windows-x64 (3/191) smartos-ia32 (2/190) smartos-x64 (2/190) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/libuv-review/21/
23:46:55  <tjfontaine>bnoordhuis: its a job that is triggered for any commit that is not on a version or master branch
23:47:48  <bnoordhuis>right. well, i can live with that for now
23:51:12  <bnoordhuis>okay, i'll probably land it tomorrow
23:51:29  <bnoordhuis>there's one or two outstanding issues, like adding back dtrace support
23:51:44  <bnoordhuis>but nothing major and nothing that probably can't wait a day or two
23:51:50  <bnoordhuis>but for now, good night :)
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23:53:55  <tjfontaine>hehe gnight :)
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