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14:52:09  <indutny>tjfontaine: hey man
14:52:10  <indutny>you around?
14:52:19  <indutny>it seems that our release binaries
14:52:26  <indutny>http://nodejs.org/dist/v0.11.10/node-v0.11.10-linux-x64.tar.gz
14:52:33  <indutny>doesn't contain BIO_s_file symbol
14:52:39  <indutny>while it clearly present when building from source
14:57:06  <indutny>oh wait
14:57:08  <indutny>no they doesn't
15:00:59  <indutny>somehow the symbol gets dropped when linking with node
15:03:45  <indutny>seems to be a consequence of --gc-sections
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16:59:55  <tjfontaine>indutny: yes, we need to do the equivalent of -whole-archive for every platform
17:00:05  <tjfontaine>indutny: that may unfortunately mean map files
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17:09:31  <indutny>hey man
17:09:44  <indutny>map files are good :)
17:10:25  <tjfontaine>sure, just means maintaining them :)
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17:33:11  <MI6>joyent/node: tjfontaine created branch gyp-flock - http://git.io/f8Q0-g
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18:11:57  <indutny>tjfontaine: https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/6974/files#r9176539
18:12:00  <indutny>let's discuss it a bit
18:12:03  <indutny>do you have a minute?
18:12:34  <tjfontaine>ya, finishing up a call wiht my parents
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18:19:29  <indutny>ok, it would be simpler to continue discussion on github then :)
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18:21:54  <tjfontaine>indutny: I mean, I know it's like that other places in 0.10, but does tha tmean we need to add more?
18:22:00  <indutny>yes :)
18:22:05  <tjfontaine>heh
18:22:06  <indutny>this method was not throwing
18:22:10  <indutny>oh
18:22:13  <indutny>anyway
18:22:21  <indutny>if you want to - we can backport it from v0.11
18:22:28  <tjfontaine>well no, I mean
18:22:37  <indutny>not that big change
18:22:41  <indutny>just ThrowCryptoError
18:22:50  <tjfontaine>if the only way to indicate to the user is this way
18:23:02  <indutny>no, we are doing it properly in v0.11
18:23:05  <tjfontaine>right
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18:23:56  <indutny>so what do you want me to do? :)
18:24:06  <tjfontaine>land it :)
18:24:09  <indutny>ok :D
18:25:05  <MI6>joyent/node: Fedor Indutny v0.10 * b4c4e0b : crypto: throw on SignFinal failure - http://git.io/02BikQ
18:25:08  <indutny>done
18:25:08  <tjfontaine>I did review trywrite, some of the c++ is a little frustrating to follow
18:25:14  <indutny>comment ;)
18:25:18  <tjfontaine>heh
18:25:35  <tjfontaine>I think we are going to have to do the stdio patch, python does something similar
18:26:01  <indutny>yay!
18:26:08  <indutny>you mean
18:26:13  <indutny>not close fd < 3 ?
18:26:27  <tjfontaine>well, not close process.std{in,err,out}
18:26:45  <tjfontaine>but we need to let fs.closeSync() do whatever it wants with 0,1,2
18:27:35  <indutny>yep
18:27:36  <indutny>I agree
18:27:39  <indutny>if users want to
18:27:42  <indutny>they should get it
18:28:34  <indutny>so
18:28:35  <indutny>LGTY?
18:30:04  <tjfontaine>ya, I think so
18:30:06  <tjfontaine>:)
18:30:09  <tjfontaine>well
18:30:15  <tjfontaine>only on master though, right
18:30:17  <tjfontaine>?
18:33:10  <indutny>yes
18:33:12  <indutny>oh
18:33:14  <indutny>actually
18:33:19  <indutny>why not v0.10?
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18:35:37  <indutny>tjfontaine: ^
18:35:52  <tjfontaine>I dunno, while it it's the right thing to do in general for node, I'm unclear on if this subtle change will break someone
18:36:05  <tjfontaine>I'd like to get at least one more person to weigh in
18:36:07  <tjfontaine>ideally isaacs
18:36:10  <indutny>ok
18:36:14  <indutny>that sounds like a better idea
18:36:19  <indutny>than landing it in master only
18:36:38  <tjfontaine>I'm +1 on master for sure, I am .5 on v0.10 -- and there's no particular rush to get this fix in
18:36:41  <indutny>only master*
18:36:41  <indutny>only landing it in master
18:36:42  <indutny>whatever
18:36:43  <tjfontaine>I will comment with my thoughts
18:36:49  <indutny>yeah
18:36:51  <indutny>no rush
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18:58:16  <tjfontaine>indutny: did you see my gyp-flock branch?
18:59:04  <indutny>nope
18:59:06  <indutny>link?
18:59:28  <tjfontaine>https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/d0d4719e4727bba59cd4e5108f6a674c9ba2c12e
18:59:35  <tjfontaine>as it turns out, I cannot reproduce this failure state anymore
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19:01:25  <tjfontaine>http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-master/891/DESTCPU=ia32,label=smartos/console this is certainly failing with EAGAIN though right now
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19:12:01  <indutny>interesting
19:14:53  <tjfontaine>ya I just did it with a very simple test in the python repl
19:15:27  <tjfontaine>https://gist.github.com/tjfontaine/8637719 do that in two windows on the smartos boxes we have access to
19:15:34  <tjfontaine>two repls on the same box tha tis
19:15:47  <tjfontaine>IOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
19:19:38  <indutny>honestly saying - never used it
19:19:40  <indutny>:)
19:19:41  <indutny>flock
19:19:53  <indutny>let me read about them for a bit
19:20:14  <tjfontaine>well first things first, we don't support flock() on smartos, which is why fcntl is necessary :)
19:22:46  <indutny>ok, so why does gyp need it?
19:23:09  <indutny>to make simultaneous builds work?
19:23:29  <tjfontaine>I presume so, that's a world I really am not willing to delve too far into, as I have plenty of other concerns at the moment :)
19:23:37  <indutny>:)
19:23:59  <tjfontaine>but yes, parallel builds seems likely
19:24:02  <indutny>:)
19:30:04  <tjfontaine># Note: flock is used to seralize linking. Linking is a memory-intensive
19:30:05  <tjfontaine># process so running parallel links can often lead to thrashing. To disable
19:30:05  <tjfontaine># the serialization, override LINK via an envrionment variable as follows:
19:30:18  <indutny>oh
19:30:29  <indutny>I see
19:30:33  <tjfontaine>I'm not sure I care about that frankly :)
19:30:46  <indutny>well
19:30:48  <tjfontaine>I may just disable it in the build system
19:30:50  <indutny>we do link a couple of times
19:30:51  <tjfontaine>from jenkins
19:30:54  <indutny>actually
19:31:02  <indutny>I think 6 times
19:31:07  <indutny>oh
19:31:11  <indutny>no, that's not linking
19:31:27  <tjfontaine>we should only be doing one large link, at the very end, which is a single command anyway
19:32:15  <tjfontaine>we need v8 built before we link node, and that's the most expensive link step
19:32:20  <tjfontaine>everything else is noise
19:32:26  <indutny>yeah
19:32:27  <tjfontaine>(C++)--
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