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00:30:11  <drs>i'm seeing an issue where the child (spawned process) from uv_spawn calls closesocket and the socket doesn't really close
00:30:32  <indutny>that's odd
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00:32:33  <indutny>drs: let me check it
00:32:35  <indutny>just to be sure
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00:33:32  <indutny>oh
00:33:33  <indutny>I was wrong
00:33:35  <indutny>you need to close it
00:33:39  <indutny>sorry
00:33:45  <indutny>on both windows and unixes
00:34:18  <drs>ok hmm.. but how would the child spawned process communicate back to the master? another named pipe?
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00:34:42  <indutny>sorry
00:34:50  <indutny>you need to close passed fd
00:35:01  <indutny>not a pipe
00:35:05  <indutny>through which it was passed
00:35:27  <drs>i think i'm doing that. let me see
00:35:55  <indutny>I mean that it should not break any communication
00:36:00  <indutny>as the IPC pipe stays alive
00:36:24  <indutny>oh
00:36:31  <indutny>I just realized that you was talking about uv_spawn()
00:36:32  <indutny>sorry
00:36:38  <drs>yeah
00:36:52  <indutny>yeah, you need to close it
00:36:53  <indutny>anyway :)
00:37:34  <drs>i am closing it in the spawned child worker process, but you are saying i need to close it in the master?
00:37:54  <indutny>well, you need to do both
00:37:58  <indutny>I think
00:38:11  <indutny>basically, it duplicates the socket
00:38:24  <indutny>and both instances should be closed
00:38:34  <drs>got it
00:38:53  <indutny>hm...
00:39:27  <indutny>may be I am wrong...
00:39:41  <indutny>let me check it one more time
00:41:16  <indutny>yeah, this seems to be correct
00:41:20  <indutny>if you are using INHERIT_FD
00:41:25  <indutny>the original handle is not getting closed
00:41:32  <indutny>and you need to close it yourself
00:41:38  <indutny>if you wish to
00:41:50  <drs>i am.. hmm maybe that's the wrong flag
00:42:25  <drs>i need to better understand this uv_stdio_container_t type
00:42:54  <indutny>I don't think that it is a wrong flag
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00:43:08  <indutny>this is the only way to pass existing handle to other process on spawn
00:43:26  <indutny>as an alternative you could ask libuv to create an fd for you
00:43:37  <indutny>but you'll still be responsible for closing it in a parent process
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00:44:08  <indutny>and close the socket right after uv_spawn
00:44:56  <drs>that's a good idea :)
00:47:43  <drs>indutny: it works!
00:47:52  <indutny>yay
00:47:52  <indutny>good
00:48:34  <drs>after uv_write2 i wasn't calling uv_close on the client socket
00:48:42  <drs>now i am. everything is good
00:51:51  <indutny>ok, great
00:51:56  <indutny>glad to help you
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01:04:20  <trevnorris>:P
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01:08:21  <tjfontaine>so long as it stays in obscurity in npm :)
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01:25:56  <trevnorris>heh. yes, it will
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01:37:06  <othiym23>trevnorris: what's tracemeur for?
01:37:48  <trevnorris>othiym23: to punch object methods and add stack tracer counters for each call
01:37:53  <trevnorris>othiym23: check the readme
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01:39:23  <othiym23>I read the source ;)
01:39:28  <othiym23>I mean what's it *for*?
01:39:29  <tjfontaine>it's essentially: @[jstack()] = count();
01:39:35  <tjfontaine>:)
01:39:44  <tjfontaine>maybe he wants to make flame graphs ;)
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01:40:45  <othiym23>the counters on their own are sort of low-signal
01:41:05  <othiym23>start collecting timings and some aggregated metrics and you have something a lot more recognizable to me ;)
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01:43:11  <trevnorris>so used perf to trace futex calls and traced it back to fs.stat and dns.lookup
01:43:34  <trevnorris>so punched those methods to find their stack traces and how many time each stack was called.
01:43:41  <tjfontaine>futex on the thread pool you mean
01:43:45  <trevnorris>yeah
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01:44:48  <othiym23>that makes more sense
01:44:58  <othiym23>why tracemeur and not DTrace?
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01:45:06  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: basically, uv_mutex_lock was being called a ridiculous amount
01:45:34  <trevnorris>othiym23: just wanted a quick hack to track one thing from my linux box
01:46:35  <trevnorris>othiym23: it's crude, but works anywhere. :P
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01:50:01  <LOUDBOT>WHY CAN'T THE NEW CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF CANADA CONDUCT ITSELF THAT WAY?
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18:53:54  <othiym23>so uh what are our thoughts on moderating comments on jithub issues?
18:53:56  <othiym23>asking for a friend
18:58:00  <tjfontaine>in which manner?
18:58:09  <tjfontaine>as in removal or modification?
18:58:44  <tjfontaine>I mean, I'm about to take the easy way out on #6999
18:59:28  <othiym23>removal seems most expedient to me
19:00:40  <tjfontaine>are you asking me to moderate that issue and remove the unhelpful troll portions? :)
19:00:48  <mmalecki>can you even remove whole issues on github?
19:01:03  <tjfontaine>if you ask nicely
19:01:07  <othiym23>mmalecki: no, only [REDDACT]
19:01:13  <tjfontaine>you can petition github
19:01:17  <othiym23>aha
19:01:27  <tjfontaine>just like you can block a single person from a project
19:01:36  <mmalecki>this guy must be using a markov's chain there
19:01:53  <othiym23>tjfontaine: I'm actually ambivalent personally, but I think it does make it hard to wade through a fairly significant discussion
19:02:07  <othiym23>mmalecki: I think that's lovingly hand-crafted surrealist insanity
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19:04:20  <mmalecki>othiym23: gotta love that
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20:15:00  <indutny>tjfontaine: heya
20:15:00  <indutny>yt?
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20:45:16  <tjfontaine>indutny: hey
20:45:29  <indutny>https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/6998#issuecomment-33835200
20:45:34  <indutny>any objections to landing this ^ ?
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20:46:14  <tjfontaine>nope
20:46:21  <indutny>ok
20:46:22  <indutny>landing
20:46:29  <indutny>thank you
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20:46:33  <tjfontaine>yw
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20:48:56  <tjfontaine>fuck you jenkins
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20:52:29  <indutny>haha
20:52:30  <indutny>:)
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21:15:37  <othiym23>mikeal: if I end up spending the afternoon arguing with libertarins with Twitter, I'm holding you responsible
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21:17:11  <mikeal>dude, ignore that guy
21:17:27  <mikeal>you can't respond to comments like "inform yourself"
21:17:43  <othiym23>except with a hearty GFY
21:18:01  <othiym23>anyway, we can continue that discussion IRL at a later date, I think both of us are losing nuance on the ol Twitz
21:18:03  <mikeal>yeah, you should just respond with a link to Obama's State of the Union video
21:18:10  <mikeal>that's an effective counter-troll :)
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21:36:04  <tjfontaine>this is proper fucked
21:36:24  <tjfontaine>we should never emit the same error twice on the same object
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22:09:37  <tjfontaine>indutny: pretty sure we should backport d019eac5b5fe3522f527547046a9baef8ab9572c -- https://gist.github.com/tjfontaine/8744274
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22:36:59  <indutny>tjfontaine: hm
22:37:14  <tjfontaine>indutny: I just made https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/7015 regarding it
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22:38:22  <indutny>ok
22:38:29  <indutny>put it into my queue :)
22:38:35  <tjfontaine>already done :)
22:38:41  <indutny>haha
22:38:44  <indutny>actually
22:38:48  <indutny>that was a past tense
22:38:50  <indutny>anyway
22:38:51  <tjfontaine>ah ok
22:38:52  <indutny>good
22:38:52  <indutny>:)
22:38:54  <tjfontaine>:P
22:39:02  <indutny>yeah, english is so obscure
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22:39:09  <indutny>without pronounces
22:39:17  <indutny>oops
22:39:27  <indutny>pronouns
22:39:30  <indutny>yeah
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23:20:56  <indutny>tadam! :)
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23:22:39  <indutny>tjfontaine: mind reviewing this https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/7009 ?
23:22:42  <indutny>quite simple
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23:30:02  <LeftWing>indutny: Sorry about the slow pace of review. I've been off reading APUE and some RFCs/standards.
23:30:13  <indutny>np
23:30:17  <indutny>thank you very much for your time
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23:30:23  <LeftWing>SCM_RIGHTS and CMSG_* is some dark voodoo :P
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23:30:27  <indutny>haha
23:30:29  <indutny>indeed
23:30:42  <indutny>as many other stuff :)
23:30:47  <indutny>especially networking
23:31:12  <indutny>real dark voodoo, though, is a usage of undocumented function in uv_spawn() implementation on windows
23:31:20  <indutny>that totally scares me out
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23:46:38  <indutny>tjfontaine: going to land that zlib thing
23:46:41  <indutny>looks quite solid
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23:53:50  <indutny>yay
23:53:52  <indutny>great
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