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07:40:53  <indutny>trevnorris: hey man
07:40:55  <indutny>happy birthday
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08:47:06  <othiym23>whoah hey
08:47:15  <othiym23>happy birthday, trevnorris!
08:47:20  <othiym23>what are you, 20 now?
08:47:51  <othiym23>also, when is there going to be a dot release with the fix for crypto.shasum in it?
08:48:14  <othiym23>sort of seeing an uptick of people publishing packages with npm + node 0.11, which is leading to failed checksums on installs
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15:57:42  <bradleymeck>woot, it works
15:57:50  <bradleymeck>now to get require to work... haha
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16:13:08  <bradleymeck>best way to convert a uv_buf_t to utf16 uint16_t? sans v8 pref
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16:48:37  <bradleymeck>manual loop it is I guess bleh
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17:19:02  <Kakera>does the uv_buf_t contain utf16?
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17:43:29  <indutny>Kakera: it contain 8-bit data
17:45:02  <Kakera>I know, I was asking about bradleymeck's buffer
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20:14:07  <othiym23>the perf stuff for raw CPU instrumentation is kinda blowing my mind, but finding docs on PPC counters is not easy
20:14:50  <bradleymeck>othiym23: ?
20:15:13  <othiym23>bradleymeck: trawling http://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html
20:15:42  <othiym23>my Linux 3.x server has a PowerPC G4 in it, which does have a ton of built-in counters
20:16:01  <othiym23>but finding a mapping of those to their "raw" ops is proving troublesome
20:17:28  <bradleymeck>othiym23: is this ppc only?
20:17:36  <othiym23>nope
20:18:03  <othiym23>in fact, it's WAY easier to figure out on x86, because Brendan mentions the names of the relevant manuals in the article
20:18:41  <bradleymeck>looks a lot like perf counters on windows
20:19:37  <bradleymeck>othiym23: getting excited since I got the prototype debugger protocol extension mechanism finally working today and going to get prototype for heap and perf next
20:19:47  <bradleymeck>lots of tooling excitement
20:19:58  <othiym23>that sounds rad
20:20:26  <othiym23>bradleymeck: is there a CLI / UI you're targeting, or are you just concentrating on protocol stuff for now?
20:21:13  <bradleymeck>othiym23: I wrote a prototype CLI, but most of the work is getting the protocol to be in workable state
20:21:29  <bradleymeck>the v8 protocol does a lot of things, but lacks extensibility / scriptability / features
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20:22:58  <othiym23>I assumed as much, because all of the existing Node debuggers have the same capabilities and limitations
20:23:06  <bradleymeck>need to figure out how to keep everything in 1 isolate though, cause adding 2mb to the app when you turn on debugging is not insignificant
20:23:30  <bradleymeck>othiym23: yea, we need to expose various things like the profiler, heap dumps, etc
20:23:39  <bradleymeck>had a github issue listing the things we want
20:24:23  <othiym23>I've kept an eye on that issue
20:24:32  <othiym23>someday I'll have the energy to contribute to efforts like that
20:24:56  <othiym23>I have a lot of opinions about debugging in Node, having spent I don't know how many hours in the CLI debugger while I was at New Relic
20:25:03  <bradleymeck>haha
20:25:18  <bradleymeck>yea, let me know if you have ideas, even if they contradict common/my thinking
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20:26:44  <othiym23>for me, the most important things are being able to set breakpoints from the debugger before modules have been loaded (which for all I know node-inspector already does now) and being able to get full stacktraces a la jstack() from the debugger
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20:27:57  <bradleymeck>we cant get you exactly that XD
20:28:30  <bradleymeck>well not w/o doing some funky stuff and causing odd things like pausing the vm temporarily
20:28:36  <othiym23>well, you can, with newish versions of V8 and SmartOR or --gdb-jit + gdb on Linux
20:28:45  <othiym23>right
20:29:09  <bradleymeck>othiym23: yea, was talking to David @ joyent about things like this
20:29:54  <bradleymeck>we would have to manually read the stack if we want it to be proper about things, and optimized functions can ruin it
20:30:19  <othiym23>yeah
20:30:42  <bradleymeck>othiym23: we can get you core dumps though from the debugger XD
20:30:44  <othiym23>what would be SUPER awesome would be if the debugger could basically incorporate IRHydra
20:30:51  <othiym23>but that's a pretty tall ask
20:31:19  <othiym23>bradleymeck: actually, yeah, having a gcore-like command right in the debugger would be pretty handy
20:31:22  <bradleymeck>othiym23: its not tall, just don't want to bother mraleph until all the prototyping is done
20:32:47  <bradleymeck>ok, gtg. let me know any ideas via github or email
20:33:44  <othiym23>cya thx
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