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10:48:48  <indutny>heya
10:48:50  <indutny>saghul: yt?
10:49:00  <saghul>ahoi
10:49:02  <saghul>indutny: sup?
10:49:16  <indutny>going to backport FSEvents changes from v0.11 to v0.10
10:49:19  <indutny>pretty dangerous stuff
10:49:21  <indutny>:)
10:49:30  <indutny>will you have time to review it today?
10:51:43  <saghul>probably
10:51:48  <saghul>what stuff needs backporting?
10:53:07  <indutny>shared FSEventStream
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11:03:26  <saghul>won't that break ABI?
11:05:06  <indutny>nope
11:07:28  <saghul>oh, kewl then
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11:07:43  <saghul>is it important? I mean, 0.12 should be "next week"
11:10:28  <indutny>hahaha
11:10:31  <indutny>"next week" :)
11:10:37  <indutny>I'm not really sure
11:10:43  <indutny>ok, fuck it
11:10:47  <indutny>it is just a waste of time
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11:12:47  <indutny>saghul: btw, have you seen my c-ares patch?
11:12:51  <indutny>second version of it
11:13:17  <saghul>not yet, will do!
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11:48:12  <indutny>saghul: this elliptic curve thing is really bothers me :)
11:48:19  <indutny>couldn't get point multiplication below 5ms
11:55:30  <saghul>I can't get mingw to compile DirectShow stuff on Windows
11:56:02  <indutny>haha
11:56:09  <indutny>yeah, this is a shitty problem too
11:56:17  <indutny>what are you doing with DirectShow?
11:58:48  <saghul>i'm using PJSIP, which uses DirectShow for video capturing
11:59:12  <saghul>I'm trying to get the avdevice backend working, that DirectShow thing is a mess
11:59:58  <indutny>aah
12:00:08  <indutny>I could imagine how fucked it is
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12:52:16  <trevnorris>groundwater_: ping
12:52:25  <indutny>heya
12:52:41  <trevnorris>indutny: sup dude?
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12:52:59  <indutny>all good
12:53:01  <indutny>how are you?
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12:53:25  <trevnorris>well. just waiting at the airport. one of the only things that could get me up this early. :P
12:53:36  <indutny>oh, nice
12:53:41  <indutny>where are you heading, btw?
12:53:49  <trevnorris>jsconf
12:54:07  <indutny>aaah
12:54:15  <trevnorris>do you know, to spin up another Isolate is it required by the user to spin up the thread?
12:54:34  <indutny>no, not really
12:54:47  <indutny>I'm going to be in SF next week
12:54:56  <indutny>probably at the end of it
12:54:59  <trevnorris>hm.... but Isolate::New() doesn't create a new thread?
12:55:02  <indutny>so if you'd like to meet up - let me know
12:55:03  <trevnorris>awesome. we'll have to meet up.
12:55:09  <indutny>trevnorris: it does not
12:55:21  <trevnorris>think you're the last of the group I haven't met in person.
12:56:02  <indutny>haha
12:56:09  <trevnorris>indutny: yeah, that's what I thought. also, I can't get the damn thing to properly clean up after itself. valgrind always complains.
12:58:43  <indutny>heh
12:59:08  <indutny>isolate->Exit()
12:59:15  <indutny>and
12:59:18  <indutny>isolate->Dispose()
12:59:35  <indutny>are you calling these?
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13:17:55  <trevnorris>indutny: yeah. on the isolate I create in the pthread. then I also run V8::Dispose() just before the program exits.
13:18:11  <trevnorris>still complains about 20 or so allocations that aren't cleaned up.
13:20:01  <trevnorris>well, about to board. see ya
13:20:12  <indutny>see ya
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14:15:07  <kellabyte_>ok this is gonna be a bit of a vague question, I've followed the multi-accept sample in a code base, with libuv 0.7 it was doing 4x faster in benchmarking than it's doing with latest libuv, I've noticed only one core is pegged where before 4 were, any ideas what could be going on? are there some defines I need to pull into my gyp file that might be affecting
14:15:07  <kellabyte_>this? (linux)
14:15:37  <kellabyte_>the main thing I can remember changing is uv_read2() was deprecated so I changed it to uv_read()
14:16:36  <kellabyte_>I'm not getting any failures, all requests are responded to, but it's like only 1 core is ever used
14:40:08  <saghul>kellabyte_: are you dispatching the connections to different loops in different threads?
14:43:19  <kellabyte_>I'm doing like the multi-accept sample, using IPC to fan-out to different event loops
14:43:44  <kellabyte_>but dstat is showing only one core ever doing any work, and it's slammed
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14:46:55  <saghul>I don't recall what multi-accept did, I assume it has an event loop per thread?
14:47:13  <saghul>and connections are dispatched using uv_write2
14:47:25  <saghul>if that's the case then it's indeed weird
14:48:27  <kellabyte_>https://github.com/joyent/libuv/blob/master/test/benchmark-multi-accept.c
14:55:05  <kellabyte_>what replaced uv_read2_start()? the comment was: Extended read methods for receiving handles over a pipe. The pipe must be initialized with ipc == 1.
14:55:23  <kellabyte_>uv_read2_start() is deprecated, so can uv_read_start() handle IPC?
14:56:24  <saghul>yes
14:56:38  <saghul>but you need to handle the reception of handles differently
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14:57:21  <saghul>kellabyte_: https://github.com/joyent/libuv/blob/master/include/uv.h#L1208-L1216
15:04:04  <kellabyte_>saghul: aha! thank you, that looks like something I missed in the update :)
15:04:19  <kellabyte_>saghul: I'll give it a shot tonight, thanks so much!
15:04:51  <saghul>kellabyte_: good luck! glad I could help!
15:05:22  <kellabyte_>you rock :), this channel has always been so helpful!
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15:35:34  <Kakera>0.12 next week? I hope it's not valve time? ;)
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16:18:55  <janjongboom>mmalecki: Ill arrive in Warsaw on Saturday
16:19:07  <janjongboom>mmalecki: catching flight straight from Bangladesh to Warsaw
16:19:20  <janjongboom>mmalecki: can you get an airbnb?
16:19:30  <janjongboom>mmalecki: and still taking KLM flight out at 1700 on Sunday?
16:21:09  <mmalecki>janjongboom: okay, and yes, can take an airbnb
16:21:18  <mmalecki>janjongboom: I'll see if I can get a star alliance flight
16:21:25  <mmalecki>janjongboom: (there)
16:21:36  <mmalecki>janjongboom: so what time are you arriving and departing?
16:21:40  <janjongboom>mmalecki: ok
16:21:48  <janjongboom>mmalecki: Ill arrive 19h on Saturday
16:21:57  <janjongboom>mmalecki: didnt book a flight out yet
16:22:38  <janjongboom>mmalecki: adding WAW-AMS to my AMS-IST-DAC-IST-WAW itenary was 1000 euro more :P
16:23:44  <mmalecki>janjongboom: I can imagine, multipart flights are a pain
16:23:54  <mmalecki>janjongboom: are you in Amsterdam now?
16:24:04  <janjongboom>mmalecki: but AMS-DAC-WAW was only 2 euro more than AMS-DAC-AMS so that was nice
16:24:07  <janjongboom>mmalecki: yeah
16:24:26  <mmalecki>janjongboom: beer sometimes
16:24:39  <janjongboom>mmalecki: yeah didnt nathan wanted to drink on friday?
16:25:35  <mmalecki>janjongboom: I think so, yeah. I'll start an email thread
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16:29:25  <janjongboom>mmalecki: cool
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18:19:41  <indutny>hey, any NY people?
18:21:27  <tjfontaine>AlexisMocha: is in NY atm
18:22:07  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: ^
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18:27:07  <indutny>haha
18:27:51  <indutny>ok,what do you guys think about location of https://www.airbnb.ru/rooms/1187764 ?
18:28:24  <indutny>is it ok?
18:28:27  <AlexisMocha>indutny: hey are you here? is that your place?
18:28:34  <indutny>no, it's not mine :)
18:28:36  <indutny>I'm going to book it
18:28:49  <indutny>if you guys would recommend me to
18:29:01  <AlexisMocha>ha, it was in russian
18:29:23  <AlexisMocha>it's a very good location
18:30:02  <AlexisMocha>..which is the most important thing
18:30:14  <AlexisMocha>the reviews are all positive and the owner is Italian ;) you can't go wrong with that
18:30:31  <indutny>hahah :)
18:30:31  <indutny>ok
18:41:44  <indutny>AvianFlu: ping
18:44:56  <mmalecki>indutny: from my limited experience, that's a pretty amazing location
18:45:07  <indutny>ok, booking
18:45:11  <indutny>thank you, people! :)
18:45:56  <mmalecki>you're in Lower Manhattan, which is where you want to be :)
18:46:01  <indutny>hahha
18:46:09  <indutny>I was much higher in previous trips
18:46:46  <indutny>ok, all booked!
18:46:55  <indutny>I'd actually stay here for two days
18:46:57  <indutny>before going to SF
18:47:00  <indutny>cc tjfontaine
18:49:01  <AvianFlu>indutny: yeah that's a nice area
18:49:33  <indutny>ok, great
18:49:36  <indutny>thank you, everyone!
18:54:36  <saghul>kellabyte_: nope, it's still the way to do things
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18:57:04  <kellabyte_>saghul: ok cool. I put in place the changes I saw in the multi-accept benchmark from libuv but it's still only pegging one core, I'm missing something somewhere lol
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20:30:42  <AlexisMocha>indutny: I am now looking at memory utlization for TLS connections in v0.11. We don't seem to have the instability issue that was caused by setImmediate but memory used per connection is higher.
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20:31:03  <AlexisMocha>In TLSCallbacks::InitSSL() we create 3 * 16k buffers for each connection
20:31:26  <AlexisMocha> enc_in_ = NodeBIO::New();
20:31:26  <AlexisMocha> enc_out_ = NodeBIO::New();
20:31:26  <AlexisMocha>...
20:31:27  <AlexisMocha> clear_in_ = new NodeBIO();
20:32:10  <AlexisMocha>Do you think that anything can be optimized here?
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20:36:00  <indutny>AlexisMocha: yes
20:36:11  <indutny>AlexisMocha: it could allocate this 16k buffers on-demand
20:36:13  <indutny>as we do it in v0.10
20:36:30  <indutny>but I'd measure performance after implementing it
20:36:41  <AlexisMocha>clear_in_ right?
20:37:14  <AlexisMocha>I'll try it
20:37:26  <AlexisMocha>after which event we could deallocate it?
20:38:24  <AlexisMocha>indutny: ^
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20:54:20  <indutny>AlexisMocha_: this is a big question
20:54:31  <indutny>AlexisMocha_: I'd rather not deallocate it, honestly saying
20:54:50  <indutny>it'll certainly decrease the performance in bandwidth benchmarks
20:55:04  <indutny>but we could try doing it
20:55:08  <indutny>when it drops to zero size
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20:58:47  <AlexisMocha_>indutny: mmmmm, ok
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20:59:55  <AlexisMocha_>maybe we can make them smaller? since the buffers are growing dynamically anyway (from what I can tell). It would be more optimal to start with a small size, which would increase the number of long-polling connections we can handle
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21:10:41  <indutny>AlexisMocha_: this is a pain :)
21:10:46  <indutny>AlexisMocha_: we could make all but enc_in_
21:10:52  <indutny>client hello parser reads from it
21:11:12  <indutny>also the current size is a maximum size of a single TLS record
21:11:24  <indutny>meaning that one read will always result in <= 1 allocation
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21:11:40  <indutny>but I'm ok in making them smaller, honestly saying
21:11:52  <indutny>its just need to be a template variable, not a constant
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