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11:30:07  <Domenic>What happens if I open a nonblocking socket but never read from it? Data accumulates in the kernel buffer, I assume, but is the kernel buffer limited in size? Does the kernel start applying some sort of TCP backpressure? Or does data start getting lost?
11:35:26  <saghul>Domenic: AFAIK, data will get lost once the kernel buffer is full
11:35:57  <Domenic>makes sense, thanks!
11:36:29  <saghul>the receive buffer can be tweaked with SO_RCVBUF
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11:50:25  <Domenic>OK cool, I've finished a draft blog post on how reading from sockets works. If anyone wants to check it for accuracy before I put it on my blog for realz, I'd be eternally grateful. https://gist.github.com/domenic/78d61c6d074a8256a1eb
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12:05:59  <saghul>Domenic: there is a way to know how much data is available to be read, but it's too expensive to use in practice
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12:06:23  <saghul>also, libuv doesn't actually tell you that there is data available, it's a bit more high level
12:06:50  <saghul>it calls a callback asking for a buffer to read data into, and then a read callback is called with the data that was read
12:11:47  <tpar_>Domenic: I added some comments to the post, hope that was OK
12:26:10  <tpar_>fg
12:36:38  <kkaefer>what is the semantic of the following: an async handle's callback is executed in the event loop. at the same time, another thread calls uv_async_send on that async handle. will that execution be folded into the existing run, or will the async callback triggered again in the next event loop iteration?
12:41:36  <saghul>kkaefer: if you are in the middle of the callback then yes, it will be called again
12:50:49  <kkaefer>great, that confirms my understanding
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15:48:08  <srl295>tjfontaine: thought i filled in the doodle last night, but had a different view from a desktop this morning - was the meeting scheduled?
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16:24:32  <tjfontaine>srl295: no, until your doodle I sorta expected to be aiming for the 1PM PST mark
16:26:09  <srl295>tjfontaine: ok sorry. i checked it last night, but the mobile view must not have saved properly
16:26:14  <srl295>didn't have a name entry
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16:27:49  <tjfontaine>srl295: its ok, just sent you an email -- trying to figure out the best way to try and facilitate since I'd really like to get everyone together in live space, but if not I am definitely hoping that everyone will articulate some opinions in email at least
16:30:03  <srl295>tjfontaine: if Michael and James can make 1p I can reply by mail
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16:33:54  <tjfontaine>I'll try and go for 1, just to get some live interaction, and then hopefully more of it will follow in subsequent emails
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17:47:04  <MI6>joyent/node: Julien Gilli refs/tags/jenkins-accept-commit-temp * 588c009 : make: remove node_dtrace from cpplint excludes - http://git.io/pQim
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19:24:29  <nathan7>saghul: yo
19:24:40  <nathan7>saghul: wanna give me that run-through?
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19:49:23  <nathan7>saghul: I think I figured out the socketpair dance
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