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03:39:49  <rphillips>rje: https://github.com/virgo-agent-toolkit/virgo-base-agent/pull/169
03:40:01  <rphillips>not sure why the async version isn't propogating the error
03:40:04  <rphillips>maybe creationix knows
03:40:23  <rphillips>might be something to do with coroutines... not sure though.
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13:41:05  <rphillips>good morning
14:07:34  <rphillips>creationix: around?
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15:18:17  <rphillips>rje: around?
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17:32:45  <rphillips>https://github.com/virgo-agent-toolkit/virgo-base-agent/pull/170
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18:06:47  <rphillips>rje: wdyt?
18:07:36  <rje>reading
18:12:33  <rje>rphillips, so was that causing an early crash?
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18:12:51  <rphillips>yeah, it was a silent crash
18:12:57  <rphillips>when luajit on 32bits went to gc
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19:44:39  <creationix>rphillips: I'm here now
19:44:43  <creationix>jury service is over
19:45:34  <rphillips>yay!
19:45:50  <rphillips>creationix: quick vidyo?
19:46:01  <creationix>rphillips: sure, I'll hop in your room
19:51:04  <rphillips>https://github.com/luvit/luvit/pull/774
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20:33:00  <creationix>kostco: I'd rather keep readline out of core. The lit system aims to make it trivial to pull in third-party dependencies
20:33:20  <creationix>it's worked well for node at least (as opposed to the python model where the kitchen sink is in core)
20:33:39  <kostco>gotcha, that makes sense
20:33:58  <creationix>kostco: fs.readline that is. We do have a repl style readline in core for making command prompts
20:34:31  <kostco>and i dont truly need it anymore, theres a lineemitter lib that is being used in the project
20:34:55  <creationix>and even though luvit does aim to clone the node APIs, we also allow cherry-picking luvit modules one at a time for bare luvi based apps.
20:35:01  <creationix>so the real core is even more minimal
20:35:13  <kostco>sounds like it yea
20:35:55  <creationix>and even the luvi layer is optional and people can use luv directly. This extreme modularization is the result of years of researching what people in the lua community actually want
20:36:34  <creationix>lua users tend to build custom systems from tiny parts while js people are used to a common platform with some baseline abilities.
20:36:35  <kostco>interesting, theres another project with similiar goals
20:36:36  <kostco>https://github.com/ignacio/luanode
20:36:59  <creationix>right, there are several, but as far as I know luvit is the most popular (and even that didn't get too far into lua community)
20:37:01  <kostco>yea im guessing were using lua since we can get very performant, small footprint cross platform agents
20:37:23  <creationix>right, lua is similar to js, but with much lower-overhead in the vms
20:42:51  <rphillips>yep. pretty weird
20:48:25  <creationix>rphillips: what's weird?
20:49:09  <rphillips>how the lua community really didn't take off with luvit
20:49:33  <creationix>rphillips: yeah, especially since they constantly ask for something like it
20:49:46  <creationix>I was hoping luv might take off, but I guess I never promoted it enough to get started
20:50:10  <creationix>I don't think I've ever announced luvit 2.0 on the lua mailing list
21:00:09  <rphillips>we should
21:01:40  <rphillips>https://github.com/Mashape/kong
21:01:44  <rphillips>this looks cool
21:01:46  <rphillips>uses nginx
21:36:25  <creationix>rphillips: that could be useful for ele right?
21:37:05  <rphillips>possible, we currently don't have a front end proxy, just the load balancer
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21:59:29  <creationix>rphillips: I like how it can simplify backends by handling common logic like rate-limit, auth, etc
22:00:56  <rphillips>yeah, rackspace uses repose for most things
22:00:58  <rphillips>http://www.openrepose.org/
22:01:02  <rphillips>though, monitoring does not
22:02:11  <creationix>I see, same idea
22:02:35  <rphillips>yeah, java--
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23:33:16  <rch>what's the absolute smallest luvi memory footprint possible?
23:33:29  <rch>just curious
23:39:20  <rphillips>that would be using luvi-tiny
23:39:36  <rch>640kb binary
23:40:15  <rch>hmm k thanks
23:42:31  <rphillips>uses 772KB of ram, simple event loop with 1 timer
23:44:41  <rphillips>960KB with the regular luvi (+openssl)
23:47:23  <rphillips>rch: considering using it?
23:48:07  <rphillips>you can specify the luvi size as well now, https://github.com/virgo-agent-toolkit/rackspace-monitoring-agent/blob/master/package.lua#L6
23:50:15  <rch>i was curious about running it on a parallella
23:53:50  <rphillips>Tim and I did get arm9 boards. Just need to figure out how to build on it
23:56:38  <rch>cool
23:56:41  <rch>which ones?
23:57:27  <rphillips>it's a proprietary board from a contributor
23:57:41  <rphillips>imx28 chipset
23:58:01  <rch>ah cool