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12:05:20  <rphillips>good morning
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15:29:13  <creationix>mornin'
15:29:19  * creationixjust got teeth cleaned at the dentist
15:30:27  <rphillips>hey, me too
15:48:22  <creationix>rphillips: do you have the link to your ffi ping code?
15:49:39  <rphillips>https://gist.github.com/rphillips/c955dcedc657d62f11ad
15:50:10  <rphillips>it needs ljsyscall
15:51:23  <creationix>and windows needs something different I assume
15:52:15  <rphillips>yeah, I don't think we need to target windows
15:52:27  <rphillips>would be nice, I guess
15:54:15  <creationix>yeah, I guess we could just require polling agents to be on unix
15:54:27  <creationix>but some customers might be all windows shops right?
15:54:53  <rphillips>could be
15:55:34  <rphillips>i never thought about that before... windows pollers would be nice to have
16:09:12  <creationix>and it looks like darwin and linux will need different paths too
16:09:28  <creationix>I imagine most deployments will be linux, but many development workstations will be darwin
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17:13:51  <kostco>why not just test on linux on darwin dev workstations?
17:14:20  <kostco>we have docker, i usually just test my code on a remote box somewhere, or a vm, i think sam was working on some test stuff
17:18:12  <creationix>kostco: because that’s one more hurdle for people. It’s best to avoid those when it’s reasonable
17:18:50  <creationix>I’m just not sure what reasonable is or how hard adding darwin support is
17:19:02  <creationix>I think the priorities are 1.linux 2.darwin 3.windows 4.bsd
17:20:16  <creationix>and each will require custom code for creating the raw sockets needed for ICMP ping
17:20:17  <kostco>priorities look good. yea im not sure how reasonable darwin or windows is either.
17:20:47  <creationix>but like I said, the main reason for darwin is convenience for people on macs wanting to test something quick.
17:20:54  <creationix>I don’t always have docker
17:21:07  <creationix>and windows would be for private networks that only have windows machines
17:21:19  <creationix>I don’t expect there to be too many of those, but more data is needed
17:21:30  <creationix>or developers on windows machines, those exist too
17:22:22  <kostco>id actually assume theres a fair number of windows machine only private networks, plus now theres azure cloud support as well
17:22:32  <kostco>mm enterprise
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21:29:21  <creationix>doubt there are many bsd-only networks
21:29:25  <creationix>:)
21:29:38  <creationix>which is a shame, it’s one of the better kernel architectures
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23:41:00  <daurnimator>ehhhhh
23:41:17  <daurnimator>the internals of e.g. kqueue aren't great on most BSDs
23:41:42  <daurnimator>I think only OSX and DragonFlyBSD got it even close to 'right' last time I checked