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01:04:36  <paulfryzel>hmm, is there anything going on with manta right now? i'm noticing extremely degraded performance currently.
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01:19:28  <pmooney>manta is under fairly high load at the moment
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01:21:07  <paulfryzel>20-40s to upload a 700KB file
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01:25:01  <paulfryzel>is there any sort of status or ETA on when this is going to return to normal? it's a pretty serious problem for our production data uploads
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01:50:32  <bdha>paulfryzel: https://help.joyent.com/entries/53590984-Manta-Issues-Affecting-Response-Time-on-Some-Customer-Accounts
01:50:35  <bdha>Not much info.
01:51:38  <paulfryzel>bdha: yeah nothing new there :/ thanks though
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18:43:48  <frk1206>Hi folks!
18:44:28  <frk1206>I’m using manta through Joyent and wanted to know why our GETS are so slow - is manta designed for small BLOB storage (we are storing profile pictures ~ 10kb in size)
18:44:49  <frk1206>is there something we can do, our primary means of access is through ruby manta
18:44:59  <frk1206>GETS take ~50-100ms each
18:45:36  <frk1206>yesterday under load (probably 50-100 concurrent) users it jumped to 10+ seconds so we had to stop using manta for profile pics
18:45:45  <nahamu>https://help.joyent.com/entries/53590984-Manta-Issues-Affecting-Response-Time-on-Some-Customer-Accounts
18:46:13  <nahamu>but you may want to open a ticket as well...
18:46:15  <nahamu>:(
18:47:13  <nahamu>do you GET them and then pass them along or do you have the browser GET straight from Manta?
18:49:17  <frk1206>Nahuma - I think that ticket was opened after I complained yesterday :)
18:49:49  <nahamu>could be
18:50:06  <frk1206>joyent asked me to come talk to you guys directly to see if theres something wrong in the way we use manta
18:50:29  <frk1206>nahuma - thats what joyent support told me :)
18:50:56  <frk1206>so our problem is not recent - since we started using manta, its been bad performance wise
18:51:16  <frk1206>so we had to use cloudfront on top of manta to mitigate some issues (like downloads)
18:51:52  <frk1206>what kind of latency should we be expecting btw?
18:52:11  <rmustacc>Well, depends where in the world the other end of the connection is.
18:52:23  <rmustacc>Though obviously things in the seconds are not expected.
18:52:51  <frk1206>to answer your earlier question - we do both. All this testing is being done from the bay area (california)
18:53:51  <frk1206>but 100ms to GET from a joyent west instance is normal?
18:54:13  <frk1206>that basically means 30-40ms to get to east - so ~ 60ms for a GET?
18:54:58  <frk1206>(im just trying to find out how far away we are from the norm - and what the expected norm is)
18:55:11  <rmustacc>I don't personally know of what an expected norm will be, sorry.
18:58:36  <frk1206>okay - is there any production deployment using manta for website images?
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19:01:49  <nahamu>ah, I'm just another user. :)
19:02:03  <frk1206>nahamu - thats awesome, does it work fine for you?
19:02:04  <frk1206>:)
19:02:17  <nahamu>I use it in a totally different way, but yes.
19:02:22  <frk1206>what way is that?
19:04:27  <frk1206>(just curious) - maybe manta isnt designed for our use case!
19:05:37  <rmustacc>I think there are folks using it that way, but I haven't been following along with it all.
19:05:45  <nahamu>I use it to back up some stuff into ~~/stor, and I put a bunch of stuff into ~~/public for other people to download.
19:06:11  <nahamu>I have two thoughts about your use case though.
19:07:32  <nahamu>If you're currently having your ruby application fetch from Manta and then pass the file along to the user, then I'd try pointing the user directly at the Manta server (possibly by making DNS entries for your domain which cname to Manta)
19:08:09  <nahamu>Alternately, you could put a cache in front of Manta so that while first hits may be slow, subsequent ones would be fast.
19:11:10  <rmustacc>Well, I don't think 30ms to go across the country and back when there's no congestion is too bad.
19:12:01  <frk1206>that would be ideal - get see ~100ms without congestion
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19:12:55  <rmustacc>Well, I just mean for a single packet to go there and back is about 30ms.
19:14:53  <nahamu>Then you could fire up caches wherever you want and they could be stateless
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19:17:07  <frk1206>nahamu indeed - the problem is that sometimes the latency jumps to > 1000ms or > 10000ms yesterday
19:17:13  <frk1206>how is S3 compared to manta, btw?
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19:17:39  <rmustacc>With respect to what, latency?
19:18:14  <nahamu>I've never used S3... they don't have the equivalent of mlogin or mjob which I use
19:19:02  <nahamu>plus I sleep better knowing my bits are in ZFS pools
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