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19:54:42  <nfitch>dap_/fredk: Either of you around? Was confused by a property I see in job output this morning while working on minecrab.
19:54:54  <nfitch>Specifically, the "transient" property.
19:55:00  <fredk>hey nate
19:55:23  <nfitch>A quick look at wrasse doesn't turn anything up for that property and it isn't in the manta docs either.
19:55:49  <nfitch>I can't remember if we actually implemented that... transient jobs that is.
19:56:20  <fredk>yeah, i'm not sure it's used for anything. dap can confirm
19:56:33  <nfitch>If we did it should be in the docs. If not, I'm wondering why there's a transient property floating around.
19:56:58  <nfitch>There isn't an option in mjob create either.
19:57:29  <nfitch>Though I do see an option in mrjob in marlin.
19:58:12  <nfitch>fred: I see a reference to MANTA-1870. What is that?>
19:58:20  <nfitch>fredk: ^
19:58:35  <nfitch>Sorry, if this isn't a good time I don't mean to be annoying...
20:00:54  <fredk>nfitch: yeah, the idea was to delete the job directory for transient jobs after some amount of time
20:01:18  <nfitch>Yeah, during archival, I think.
20:01:40  <nfitch>But searching for transient in the wrasse codebase, I didn't find anything.
20:03:20  <nfitch>It's all through Marlin (and hence coming out the front door of Manta for jobs) but I don't see it anywhere else (docs, wrasse, manta cli)
20:03:43  <fredk>nfitch: it looks like it hasn't been implemented yet. i've marked the ticket public, so you should be able to see it now: https://devhub.joyent.com/jira/browse/MANTA-1870
20:05:19  <nfitch>I get a login page.
20:05:53  <nfitch>But OK, so it's partly implemented and leaking through the front door :)
20:06:29  <rmustacc>Try this https://smartos.org/bugview/MANTA-1870
20:08:22  <nfitch>rm: Yup, that works. Thanks! I'll watch that for joyent/minecrab#61
20:14:09  <nfitch>fredk/rmustacc: Thanks again!
20:14:57  <rmustacc>No problem.
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20:48:50  <dap_>nfitch: We only implemented half of it, IIRC
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22:49:45  <yunong>dap_ LeftWing: This seems like something we could use for forked manatee nodes: http://michael.otacoo.com/postgresql-2/postgres-9-5-feature-highlight-new-wal-format/ Specifically pg_rewind
22:51:59  <LeftWing>yunong: Interesting.
22:54:46  <yunong>It's nice that they're exposing higher level APIs for the WAL
22:55:24  <yunong>https://github.com/vmware/pg_rewind
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