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00:34:59  <dunnousernamefn>Wow, I just realized nothing is working because I have new Promise((reject, resolve) => ...)
00:35:14  <dunnousernamefn>Why is it the other way around if the callback is (err, data)?
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00:51:33  <danneu>in fact it probably would've been better with `reject` first so it's harder to forget
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00:57:28  <dunnousernamefn>Anyone know why https://hastebin.com/casilodaxo.js returns a 0-length string when I await it?
00:57:43  <dunnousernamefn>I'm calling it with a string value
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01:15:34  <dunnousernamefn>What events are called after an https get is finished, in the response?
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01:23:45  <ericx2x>is everything that is in {} in es6 considered to be ran on server side or client side?
01:23:45  <ericx2x><ericx2x> I hear node is a server side framework for js? what code is exactly server side and what is client side or it's a bit of both? I notice everything in {} get's hidden on the client so I'm guessing that's being rendered by the server or something?
01:24:27  <ericx2x>I'm using react mainly right now so I'm not sure what is considered node and what is just client side js
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01:44:32  <wrkrcoop>i dont get it, if localhost is trying to make a request to my server for a resource, is it my server that needs to allow localhost or does my browser/client side code need to say its ok to accept a resource from another server?
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01:56:46  <MrTrick>dunnousernamefn: because callbacks are (err, data, data, data) and promises are promisreturningfunc().then(onresolve).catch(onreject)
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02:11:40  <danneu>wrkrcoop: does your browser console show a cross-origin related error?
02:11:48  <wrkrcoop>danneu:
02:11:50  <wrkrcoop>yea
02:11:56  <wrkrcoop>Response to preflight request doesn't pass access control check: The value of the 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header in the response must not be the wildcard '*' when the request's credentials mode is 'include'.
02:11:57  <danneu>wrkrcoop: what's it say
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02:12:18  <danneu>yeah that's based off the header in the response
02:12:43  <danneu>if you wanna use creds, you can't allow wildcard (*) origin
02:12:46  <wrkrcoop>danneu: so the header is returning ‘*"
02:13:13  <wrkrcoop>do u know how to set that header field with express?
02:13:36  <danneu>prob res.headers['access-control-allow-origin'] = '...' but you should be using CORS middlewaer
02:13:46  <danneu>which prob has api like `app.use(cors({ origins: [ ... ]}))`
02:14:05  <wrkrcoop>im doing that …
02:14:10  <wrkrcoop>><
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02:14:43  <danneu>well, server needs to explicitly allow an origin if the client should be allowed to send credentials
02:15:01  <danneu>so, `origins: ['localhost:3333']` for example
02:15:13  <jaawerth>you might also need credentials: true
02:15:16  <jaawerth>in the options
02:15:24  <jaawerth>(assuming you're using https://www.npmjs.com/package/cors )
02:15:25  <danneu>tbh i'm not sure what 'include' creds is
02:15:28  <wrkrcoop>credentials are set to true
02:15:41  <jaawerth>and you're setting a specific origin/list of origins?
02:15:47  <wrkrcoop>but origin is an array
02:15:55  <danneu>what's the header in the response
02:16:02  <danneu>the browser error is saying it's "*"
02:16:28  <jaawerth>yeah look at the hader in dev tools and compare with your origin option in the middleware
02:16:38  <danneu>ofc the simplest option is to not try to pass credentials from client if you don't have to
02:16:59  <jaawerth>lol, instead of all the stuff I WAS gonna do this evening I instead went and PR'd a bug in guake that was making IRC annoying to use. Priorities!
02:17:07  <wrkrcoop>https://gist.github.com/ellismarte/539777b7c69fa3f4882770c9140fcba0
02:17:24  <wrkrcoop>https://gist.github.com/ellismarte/539777b7c69fa3f4882770c9140fcba0#file-a-js-L19-L24
02:18:08  <jaawerth>and the actual headers?
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02:18:33  <danneu>tbh i thought origins were just hostnames like 'localhost:3333
02:18:34  <wrkrcoop>jaawerth: what do u mean? idk i dont see em
02:18:56  <danneu>not sure it matters without looking at middleware impl tho ofc
02:18:58  <wrkrcoop>danneu: oh u think i need to include localhost:3000?
02:19:00  <jaawerth>I mean you have to be getting SOME headers in the response
02:19:16  <jaawerth>pull up devtools and see what's what
02:19:19  <wrkrcoop>kk
02:19:50  <wrkrcoop>access-control-allow-origin: http://localhost:3000
02:20:04  <jaawerth>is the credential header there?
02:20:06  <wrkrcoop>ok it looks like im getting through
02:20:40  <wrkrcoop>in the response?
02:20:57  <wrkrcoop>access-control-allow-credentials: true
02:21:03  <jaawerth>oh, it's working now?
02:21:21  <wrkrcoop>i guess but im not getting a 200 … looks like its not sending the right session / cookie?
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02:21:37  <jaawerth>what are you getting?
02:21:48  <wrkrcoop>401
02:21:53  <wrkrcoop>then the backend says session id not found
02:22:22  <wrkrcoop>wonder why its not sending the correct cookie …
02:22:59  <jaawerth>are you runner the server in dev mode/with nodemon or whatever? and if so, what are you using as a session store in devmode?
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02:23:30  <jaawerth>because if you're using the default in-memory store instead of memcached or whatever, you'll lose all the sessions when the server restarts and need to get a new one from the client
02:23:34  <wrkrcoop>no im trying to hit the production server
02:23:39  <jaawerth>ah
02:23:40  <wrkrcoop>no its in redis
02:24:02  <jaawerth>so it IS sending the session id, and the server just doesn't like it?
02:24:12  <wrkrcoop>thats what it seems like
02:24:22  <jaawerth>it might just be stale. what happens when you re-auth and get a new session?
02:24:36  <wrkrcoop>same error
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02:24:53  <jaawerth>you can also grab the session id from the header the client is sending (and verify that it IS sending) and check against what's in the store
02:25:14  <jaawerth>you should be able to see it in the request headers
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02:25:40  <wrkrcoop>so after i auth and i make my request for a resource the session id is changing ...
02:26:27  <jaawerth>maybe try it in incognito - could be you have a stubborn cookie
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02:26:47  <jaawerth>could be a code issue but it's always a good idea to rule out dirty browser data
02:27:18  <wrkrcoop>><
02:27:27  <wrkrcoop>ok thanks for the help gtg gonna be like an hour late for a date
02:27:27  <wrkrcoop>><
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02:28:56  <jaawerth>cors is totally not worth being an hour late for a date
02:29:22  <qoxncyha>nothing is more important than programming...
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03:19:49  <stephen>Heya folks
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03:47:20  <orbyt_>charmander you work on heroku right?
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03:48:08  <orbyt_>trying to figure out how to keep a local dev db and how it relates to the postgres db running on heroku
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03:49:03  <danneu>orbyt_: what do you mean
03:49:37  <orbyt_>i've got a postgres instance running on heroku, and some code in my application connects to it by a Heroku suppied environment variable
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03:49:54  <orbyt_>however, I don't want to use that database when developing locally
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03:50:25  <orbyt_>but it would be cool if it could occasionally monitor the remote db and update as needed to maintain at least partial parity
03:52:47  <danneu>orbyt_: your app should just get the database connection url from a DATABASE_URL environment variable
03:53:18  <danneu>that's what heroku sets. just like it sets the PORT env variable
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03:53:58  <orbyt_>Right. Heroku docs say "Run `export DATABASE_URL=postgres://$(whoami)`. This tells Postgres to connect locally to the database matching your user account name." This sounds like it sets the url to be the database on Heroky
03:54:01  <orbyt_>not a local one
03:55:11  <danneu>no, whoami returns your unix username. so it'd be something like postgres://orbyt which is short hand for postgres://[email protected]:5432
03:55:23  <danneu>but you need to give it a database name too
03:55:30  <danneu>like "postgres://[email protected]:5432/mydatabase"
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03:57:39  <danneu>for example, consider a config.js file that has stuff like `exports.DATABASE_URL = process.env.DATABASE_URL || 'postgres://localhost:5432/mydatabase'`
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04:01:27  <danneu>orbyt_: anyways, a postgres gui like postico or pgadmin of course can connect the a postgres:// url incl the one you see in `heroku config`
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04:12:00  <orbyt_>danneu Is there a way to just "copy" the db on heroku to my local environment?
04:13:21  <danneu>orbyt_: yeah heroku even has some helpers like that built it to the Heroku Toolbet iirc
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04:13:46  <danneu>orbyt_: https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/heroku-postgresql#using-the-cli
04:13:59  <danneu>orbyt_: check out pg:pull
04:14:29  <danneu>ofc to create a local database first use `createdb mydbname`
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04:33:17  <orbyt_>danneu Well pg:pull supposedly creates a new database and is suppose to copy the date over
04:33:32  <danneu>sure
04:33:40  <orbyt_>It creates a local db "mylocaldb" but no data is there "\dt" returns nothing
04:35:04  <danneu>and \dt in `heroku pg:psql` does?
04:36:07  <orbyt_>danneu Yea
04:36:24  <orbyt_>shows a table called "test_table" with (1 Row)
04:38:12  <danneu>well, if you are sure you actually psql'd into the correct local db (instead of the default one), then maybe pg:pull somehow failed? surely it'd print an error
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04:39:06  <orbyt_>danneu The default one as in regards to the one running locally or the one on heroku?
04:39:27  <danneu>locally. just psql<enter> will connect to the default whoami db
04:39:44  <danneu>where pg:pull ofc creates a new one
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04:40:26  <orbyt_>When I ran something akin to `heroku pg:pull DATABASE_URL mylocaldb` it created a "mylocaldb" locally. I entered it via psql mylocaldb
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04:40:55  <orbyt_>there \dt returns "no relations found"
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04:42:35  <sonda>joepie91 regarding workflows we want something that allows to define some activity workers, and decision workers ... different workflow types... maintain history of workflow.. coordinating between workflows
04:43:22  <orbyt_>Tried another pg:pull and got a `aborting because of server version mismatch`
04:43:23  <danneu>weird, i don't understand then. pg:pull is just a thin wrapper around pg_restore/pg_dump so you could try doing that youreslf
04:43:46  <danneu>i've had issues with things like silent failures in heroku's toolbelt over the years
04:44:07  <sonda>the decision workers will decide based on workflow type and current task status, will start execution of next task in that workflow
04:44:09  <orbyt_>what's interesting is even though it says it aborts it still creates the db
04:44:51  <danneu>orbyt_: not sure what version it speaks of, maybe you jsut need to update the toolbelt?
04:45:02  <danneu>orbyt_: or just use psql itself https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1237725/copying-postgresql-database-to-another-server
04:45:07  <sonda>workflow, task statuses must be maintained for many days , months may be
04:46:15  <danneu>orbyt_: it'd be trivial to just write your own 'npm run dbpull'
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04:51:48  <bjpenn_>new to nodejs... coming from python. How do you guys deal with multiple projects using different dependencies of the same packages?
04:51:55  <bjpenn_>different versions of the same dependencies i mean
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04:52:09  <bjpenn_>in python, we use something called "vritualenv"
04:52:30  <bjpenn_>i googled for that, and found something similar for nodejs, but im not sure if thats a hacky way of doing it, or whether theres a more popular way
04:52:43  <sonda>danneu: any idea of such workflow systems in node.js
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04:55:55  <danneu>bjpenn_: NVM
04:56:06  <danneu>sonda: dunno
04:57:06  <danneu>bjpenn_: main issue is different node versions. each project can have arbitrary dep versions since they are stored local to that project in its node_modules folder
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04:57:50  <orbyt_>danneu Looks like it was failing due to a version mismatch. Locally was running 9.x.x, upgraded to 10.x.x and everything is now working
04:57:51  <skizzy>Anyone know of a nodejs application that could be used as a dating / classifieds / forum site? Or am i prettty much making this from scratch with something like express?
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04:58:05  <danneu>orbyt_: oh duh it was talking about postgres version
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05:39:45  <orbyt_>So I guess the postgres db on heroku has ssl enabled automagicall
05:39:48  <orbyt_>automagically*
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05:40:35  <orbyt_>on my local environment, if the env variable isn't found I use a hardcoded connection string to a local postgres db. However, the connection fails
05:41:29  <orbyt_>I'm using `new Pool({ connectionString: process.env.DATABASE_URL || 'postgres://...', ssl: true});`
05:42:02  <orbyt_>should that ssl param just be off when running locally? Or do I need to somehow make my local db work with ssl?
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06:04:06  <bjpenn>danneu: how do we deal with different npm versions?
06:04:14  <bjpenn>because it seems package.json dictates the version of node right?
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06:08:11  <bjpenn>this particular project is using node 0.10.26
06:08:15  <bjpenn>according to package.json
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06:10:55  <bjpenn>anyone here ever used nvm?
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06:21:58  <ljharb>many people.
06:22:15  <ljharb>bjpenn: package.json doesn’t dictate the version of node whatsoever, “engines” is purely advisory
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06:31:20  <danneu>bjpenn: nvm's default shell initialization (which is added to bashrc/zshrc for you upon install script) will look for a .nvmrc iirc if you want to set a per-project node version
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06:34:29  <danneu>bjpenn: iirc `echo '10' > .nvmrc` in some node project root for example
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06:35:39  <danneu>you could also `nvm use <version>` manually to switch node version for the shell session
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06:52:39  <hello_kitty>I'm making a new login system to use on a few html5 games. Is passport+jwt the new hotness?
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06:53:54  <bjpenn>danneu: thanks trying it now
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06:55:07  <hello_kitty>as opposed to sessions
06:56:03  <danneu>hello_kitty: well, a "session" describes the lifetime of any token-exchange based authentication system
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06:56:41  <bjpenn>if my package.json says engine: node (=0.10.0)
06:56:51  <danneu>engines is only used for some niche things
06:57:03  <bjpenn>ah how do i know which node version works with that?
06:57:05  <danneu>like heroku will use the engines key to determine which version of node to use
06:57:10  <bjpenn>i was assuming 0.10
06:57:21  <danneu>btw are you really using node 0.10?
06:57:27  <bjpenn>the package.json really says that
06:57:31  <bjpenn>this is a legacy app that im working with
06:57:36  <danneu>ah, i see
06:57:41  <hello_kitty>is jwt secure.. i know it has gotten really popular but it seems kinda... sketchy
06:57:58  <danneu>bjpenn: i think you'd just put 0.10 in .nvmrc in the project root
06:58:10  <bjpenn>danneu: nice thanks
06:58:32  <danneu>and i think if you go `nvm use` it will then see it, if you want to verify
06:59:02  <danneu>though if you have nvm's auto-init in zshrc/bashrc this is all done for you
06:59:53  <bjpenn>nice seems to work
07:00:10  <danneu>and ofc `node -v` will should also reflect it
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07:02:33  <danneu>you may want to set `nvm alias default stable` so that `node` points to the latest version you have installed (should be v10.0). that way you're only using the hella ancient 0.10 version in that one project
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08:55:48  <CarlenWhite>Is there a standard to how promises should reject? Because I'm just rejecting with string reasons.
08:56:17  <Sharaal>I would always use errors, so new Error('reason')
08:56:52  <Sharaal>I think its widely used, but not a standard, JS allows to throw anything
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08:58:51  <CarlenWhite>I suppose that makes sense. I have a login function that rejects for bad passwords, nonexistant users, and so forth and resolves if it's proper.
08:58:58  <MrTrick>fwiw I've found the eslint promise plugin really helpful.
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09:00:06  <CarlenWhite>I might end up making a class for that kinda stuff if I feel inclined. Would mean I'd have a folder full of different kinds of errors.
09:00:18  <Sharaal>CarlenWhite: especially if you use async/await and the error will not be catched immediately, then you have with Error the file and line
09:00:53  <Sharaal>CarlenWhite: make different classes only makes sense if you want to check with instanceof and if they have different behaviors
09:02:52  <CarlenWhite>I've been trying to spread my project across many files instead of balling it up as one big app.js
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09:04:42  <CarlenWhite>Anyways, Yeah. I'll just throw errors.
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09:04:51  <CarlenWhite>Er, reject with errors rather.
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09:11:20  <CarlenWhite>For some reason I decided I'd do the salted hash checking myself.
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09:13:37  <CarlenWhite>Which is using a sha512 with 3, 128 length salts using randomness from the OS. Probably overkill for internal warehousing but hey it's overkill or nothing I suppose.
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09:18:01  <Sharaal>CarlenWhite: why not use bcrypt?
09:18:26  <CarlenWhite>I asked the same question to myself.
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09:21:10  <cart_man>When I use browserify to create a bundle.js file from my source. I get an error PraseError: 'import' and 'export' may appear only with 'sourecType: module' . So now I am trying to rather use WebPack but I cant seem to find how to simply build a file compatible with a browser using webpack ?
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09:22:03  <CarlenWhite>But I might keep it as is. I'll get around to adding a timer that forces the hash-checking to be on randomized time.
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09:28:06  <Sharaal>cart_man: why not use babel together with browserify/webpack?
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09:29:08  <pandem>because people don't realize that for most projects there's an existing boilerplate
09:29:35  <cart_man>Sharaal Ahm I use to use browserify which was pretty easy to do... just like 1 command but not sure whats going wrong now
09:29:59  <cart_man>Sharaal Ok but do both actually use babel before processing?
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09:30:23  <Sharaal>cart_man: not automatically, you must add it
09:30:37  <Sharaal>cart_man: babel for browserify: https://babeljs.io/docs/setup/#installation
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09:31:06  <Sharaal>cart_man: or others, just click with which tool you want to combine, browserify or webpack
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09:37:46  <cart_man>Sharaal Awesome Thanks man!
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09:39:27  <cart_man>Sharaal I still get the same error though
09:40:01  <cart_man>I run it like this -> browserify index.js -t babelify --outfile bundle.js
09:40:51  <lemonsparrow>Why do I get Unexpected escapement in mega literal for the line string = string.replace(/\n/g, `\n${groupIndent}`);
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09:41:16  <Sharaal>cart_man: you added the plugin for import/export to the package.json + .babelrc?
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09:43:00  <cart_man>Sharaal Hmm I dont even have package.json file
09:43:10  <cart_man>Sharaal Soemthing is not right
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09:43:50  <Sharaal>cart_man: yes, completely not right, how you can use browserify without a package.json? hopefully not by installing it globally
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09:49:05  <cart_man>Sharaal Ok soo the browserify website says to install it with -g hahaha
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09:50:38  <Sharaal>cart_man: not all documentations are perfect. Never install something globally which is project related. Install these tools per —save-dev, so every dev doing npm i have all tools needed for this project (otherwise you need a documentation which packages are needed to be installed globally by every dev)
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09:55:55  <Sharaal>cart_man: and also things like webpack builds you can add as postinstall scripts, so its automatically done after npm i
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10:03:41  <cart_man>sharaal So is the idea to run babelify before you run browserify ?
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10:23:54  <Parsec300>Is there anybody able to help me with express-validator? I'm starting out as a Node.js developer and am confused (coming from PHP (laravel))
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10:46:56  <Sharaal>Parsec300: maybe someone can help you if you actual ask a question
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10:47:49  <Parsec300>Sharaal, I am struggling to find helpful documentation on how to read the errors resulting from the validation
10:48:14  <Parsec300>But I think I now have found a youtube video where it is explained in more detail
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10:49:10  <Sharaal>Parsec300: whats wrong with the usage described here? https://www.npmjs.com/package/express-validator#usage
10:49:25  <Sharaal>Parsec300: const errors = validationResult(req); gives you all errors
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10:50:28  <Parsec300>Well, that didn't work in my code, but maybe I did something wrong. I will check it again
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12:25:40  <erebel55>does anyone know if I need to manually release connections when using a mysql2 connection pool?
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12:27:43  <bRinbg>I have a socket.io script, but thats now full with functions gives a way to include files? I will outsource the functions in a alona file and then include this in the same order
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12:28:11  <Sharaal>bRinbg: require?
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12:28:37  <bRinbg>ja like this Sharaal gives this?
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12:29:02  <Sharaal>bRinbg: y, and require is the name of the function doing this
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12:29:19  <Sharaal>bRinbg: https://nodejs.org/api/modules.html
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12:29:26  <bRinbg>Thank you i know reuqire from php but i must look in this for node :-D
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12:29:50  <Sharaal>Its different from that, so its worth to have a look at the docu
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12:31:22  <Sharaal>bRinbg: care about it only works natively server side, on client side you want to have a look at browserify/webpack
12:31:38  <bRinbg>I need it for server-Side
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12:31:57  <bRinbg>can i do that like this: require('/path/to/file1.js'); require('/path/to/file2.js');
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12:33:26  <efdee>bRinbg: if these are relative paths then yes
12:33:40  <bRinbg>Thank you efdee
12:34:28  <efdee>relative paths pointing to files within the directory that has your package.json, that is
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12:34:46  <Sharaal>bRinbg: first read the docu, it will not work like you think it works. require in node is not like the more or less "copy&paste" require how it works in php
12:34:48  <beefjoe88>Why can't I do something like exec('elixir') ?
12:35:00  <beefjoe88>to tell node to run elixir in the command line
12:35:26  <bRinbg>Ok guy thank you i will look in the docus
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12:40:55  <beefjoe88>it gives me back error the command failed and the output of the command executing just fine..
12:40:58  <beefjoe88>that's weird
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12:45:54  <ThePendulum>huh this is odd, fs saved a file with a filename that's too long so now I can't copy it
12:45:57  <ThePendulum>how did it even manage to save it
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12:46:52  <bRinbg>I found a simple function in stack, that works for me.
12:47:03  <bRinbg> function include(file_) {
12:47:03  <bRinbg> with (global) {
12:47:03  <bRinbg> eval(fs.readFileSync(file_) + '');
12:47:05  <bRinbg> };
12:47:07  <bRinbg>};
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12:48:21  <Sharaal>bRinbg: looks like crap
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12:48:47  <Sharaal>bRinbg: whats wrong with the docu why you think you need something like this?
12:48:59  <efdee>bRinbg: that sounds like a horrible idea.
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12:50:35  <bRinbg>Sharaal: In the docu if i use require thats not global and i must callback as a function again
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12:51:25  <efdee>bRinbg: why does it have to be global in the first place?
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12:52:20  <bRinbg>efdee: because i dont developed it with the right ways :-D
12:52:25  <Sharaal>bRinbg: throw away the thinking to code node like you code php, it will not work in many cases. It should never be global, thats a huge advantages of node vs this crap in php
12:52:35  <bRinbg>And if i will use require like the docu i must now change my code
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12:53:11  <bRinbg>Sharaal: i see this now
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12:54:20  <Sharaal>bRinbg: modularize code it more than "copy&paste it in a new file"
12:54:57  <Sharaal>bRinbg: so yes, you need to change some little pieces in your code, but you will have advantages if you think modularized
12:55:18  <efdee>bRinbg: so change your code. better to fix it now than to insist on walking the wrong path.
12:55:46  <bRinbg>Ok, thank you i will change my code :-D 1 day more work for me
12:56:33  <phaji>bRinbg, depending on the project that'll save yourself and other people many weeks in the future :)
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12:57:01  <phaji>also very good for you to get experience with commonjs
12:57:11  <bRinbg>haha yes thats right for now its ok but for future its bad what i have do :-D
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13:03:19  <yaymukund>I'm trying to write a codemod for jscodeshift in typescript, and `jscodeshift -t mycodemod.ts -dp component.tsx` is throwing with "Unexpected token" when it requires the transform file. Curiously, if I `tsc` the codemod file and point jscodeshift to the js file directly, it works. What gives?
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13:05:08  <Parsec300>Sharaal, it looks I finally got it working, or at least I'm able to continue further :) thanks
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13:05:44  <Sharaal>Parsec300: what was the fix for your problem? would be interesting
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13:08:11  <Parsec300>Apparently I got it working already, but when I console.logged what I got back from that method it confused me. So when I used console.log(validationResult(req).mapped()), it showed me the errorMessages
13:08:21  <Parsec300>So at first I thought it wasn't working
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13:09:33  <Sharaal>Ok :)
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13:21:10  <zampa>Using express-session to store the session id at the user.
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13:21:36  <zampa>is that that enough to be requireed to have that cookie banner that GDPR wants you to use?
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13:22:48  <Sharaal>zampa: what part of the GDPR you want achieve? express-session will create a cookie in the client if that information helps you
13:23:21  <zampa>I just run a small web browesr idle game. and since it requires a user to be online.
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13:23:38  <zampa>I went with express-session to hadle users. And was just curious how GDPR affects me.
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13:24:48  <joepie91>zampa: there's no such thing as a 'cookie banner', and the EU 'cookie law' (which doesn't actually mention cookies anywhere and isn't called that) is separate from the GDPR
13:25:26  <zampa>I really dont know much about this topic at all and just trying to figure out how this affects me.
13:25:41  <joepie91>zampa: the law you're thinking of just prescribes that you 'get consent' (for a very loose definition of 'consent') for identifiers that track individuals; uniquely identifiable sessions are just *one* of the possible ways to do that, and depending on jurisdiction you likely won't even need to ask consent for those as they are 'functionally essential'
13:25:50  <joepie91>(this exception at least exists in NL, it may exist EU-wide, but ask a lawyer)
13:26:07  <joepie91>once you start doing things that are not functionally essential, though, like analytics, you *do* need a consent screen
13:26:15  <zampa>I dont do anything like that.
13:26:23  <joepie91>zampa: well, the tl;dr on the GDPR is really just "it formalizes what you should have been doing anyway"
13:26:39  <zampa>i literally only use a cookie to figure out if a user is logged in or not.
13:26:43  <zampa>not saving any other data
13:27:05  <zampa>and i dont store any personal information about a user besides an email adress.
13:27:08  <joepie91>zampa: consult a lawyer for specific advice for your situation if you're doing commercial stuff (seriously, don't ask random IRC people), but if you've been acting in good faith all along then there is likely nothing big you will need to change
13:27:33  <joepie91>zampa: right, so if this is a hobby project, then the GDPR probably won't apply to you unless you're doing weird stuff with user data
13:27:37  <joepie91>if it's commercial, ask a lawyer :P
13:27:59  <zampa>I guess its partly commercial as i do make a bit of money from paypal transactions.
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13:28:26  <joepie91>from memory, but *I am not a lawyer*, only the stuff regarding "special personal information" (medical, sexuality, religion, etc.) applies for non-commercial things
13:28:30  <zampa>And yes ofcourse it would be best to consult a lawyer but that would probably cost me more than i make on this :D
13:28:48  <joepie91>zampa: then I'd recommend just reading up on it
13:28:57  <joepie91>and erring on the side of caution
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13:29:31  <zampa>The only thing that really could cause me problems is the express-session and saving the cookie
13:29:39  <zampa>as i have no other information about a user bar an email adress.
13:29:57  <zampa>So i guess some sort of banner regarding that would fix that issue.
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13:30:06  <joepie91>zampa: if you're just using it for functional (ie. authentication) purposes, then you probably don't need to worry about it
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13:30:17  <joepie91>you can add a banner if you want to be certain but it is likely not even needed
13:30:39  <joepie91>also consider that if you're not high-profile, you probably won't get dinged for this anyway
13:30:40  <joepie91>:p
13:31:00  <zampa>i had this game up for 6 months.
13:31:05  <zampa>and a total of 2000 actions was ever created.
13:31:14  <zampa>not sure i consider this something big. :P
13:31:44  <joepie91>zampa: is there anything to the game that might provoke interest from government agencies? eg. loot boxes, other gambling-like mechanics, sales to under-18s, etc.
13:31:57  <Sharaal>zampa: if you don't store user data (like address, payment data, email address) and use cookies only for the session I don't think there are problems with the law
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13:32:34  <zampa>no loot boxes, no gambling mechanics, users have to concept on registraton they are over the age of 18.
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13:32:49  <zampa>i do store email adresses on registration incase they forget their password.
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13:33:10  <zampa>but besides that i have very little knowledge about the user.
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13:33:29  <joepie91>zampa: then honestly, don't worry about it
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13:33:45  <joepie91>even *if* you're technically violating a regulation, it's unlikely anybody will care
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13:34:28  <zampa>I do have players who are good at harrasing people overall so it wouldn't suprise me if someone gets pissed one day and wants to report me. :P
13:34:38  <zampa>So may just add the information that cookies are used.
13:34:59  <joepie91>zampa: I assume sessions are only used for logged-in players? in that case, add an explicit notice to the signup form that session cookies are used
13:35:01  <joepie91>:P
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13:35:12  <joepie91>and if you want to be really sure, ask all existing players to explicitly accept that
13:35:21  <maret>hi I've created local npm package and before publishing I would like to install it globally. What do I need to do to install it and be able to call it from command line? I've tried npm install -g ./package-code which did installed it but calling package-code from command line doesn't work (command not found)
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13:35:40  <zampa>'I accept that cookies will be used blah blah to play this game.'
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13:35:57  <zampa>at the registration.
13:36:02  <joepie91>zampa: I'd be more specific, something like "I accept that cookies will be used to keep me logged in" or so
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13:40:57  <zampa>Uh... so much hassle. :D
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13:41:13  <rctgamer3>Quick beginner question: What's the easiest way to use a app.js variable in a router file? I defined a SQL connection in app.js but I can't access it in my router file, and a trick from stackexchange using assignVal didn't work (removed?)
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13:41:44  <m00dy>try a singleton pattern
13:41:57  <GreenJello>rctgamer3, you can put it on the 'req' object, but a better way to do it is have the route file export a function that returns a router
13:42:03  <GreenJello>rctgamer3, then you can pass arguments into it
13:44:40  <joepie91>zampa: like I said, you can probably get away with doing absolutely nothing; but if it's just for peace of mind (or you really do expect trouble), then the above is probably the eaiest
13:44:42  <joepie91>easiest*
13:44:44  <joepie91>:P
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13:48:43  <rctgamer3>thanks GreenJello: i managed to get it to work :)
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13:49:49  <Sharaal>m00dy: there is always a better solution than a singleton
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13:50:23  <m00dy>singleton is generally using for the things like Connection
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13:50:59  <Sharaal>m00dy: not rly
13:51:11  <m00dy>ok
13:51:28  <m00dy>I have been using it like that for at least 5 years :)
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13:54:40  <Sharaal>m00dy: After a few years using it I learned singleton is a quick & dirty solution which is never useful
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13:55:21  <m00dy>Sharaal: any reference ?
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13:56:04  <Sharaal>m00dy: google gives me this https://www.michaelsafyan.com/tech/design/patterns/singleton for "singleton anti pattern"
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14:02:41  <samsch>Sharaal, That links seems to be in context of class OO langs: Java, C++. Info from those places doesn't often carry over well. E.g., you should create classes in Java for a lot of things, but that's the opposite of true in JavaScript.
14:02:45  <maret>what are other options to distribute node js packages except npm ? I need some way to distribute private package without having paid account on npm. Easiest way would be to put it in private git although thats not really user friendly
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14:04:12  <Sharaal>samsch: it doesn't matter which language is used if the language allow to write oo code, which javascript does
14:04:22  <m00dy>Sharaal: I read it.
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14:04:43  <m00dy>Sharaal: It matters. Most of the reasons are based on multi-threading.
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14:04:57  <samsch>Sharaal, That just sounds outright wrong to me.
14:05:00  <m00dy>Sharaal: Which is out of boundaries when it comes to nodejs
14:05:01  <Sharaal>maret: have a look at nexus, thats what we use, maybe it helps you https://www.sonatype.com/nexus-repository-sonatype
14:05:45  <Sharaal>m00dy: 1 of 3 in the linked article is not "most"
14:06:00  <m00dy>please read the first one as well
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14:07:24  <m00dy>Sharaal: The first reason also not making sense. There's something called Immutable Infrastructure
14:07:35  <m00dy>No one cares about processes these days
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14:08:38  <Sharaal>m00dy: well, I didn't read the content of the article and I think you will find a lot of reasons at google if searching for "singleton anti pattern", "singleton vs dependency injection" and so on
14:08:43  <deadbeat>on a sidenote, usually in js i prefer functions in a module over singleton classes
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14:09:31  <m00dy>deadbeat: it doesn't need to be class if we speak in javascript
14:09:37  <Sharaal>deadbeat: In .js its even not needed to use classes to have singletons
14:09:41  <deadbeat>exactly.
14:09:52  <maret>Sharaal, thanks
14:11:01  <samsch>Sharaal, If you search "<anything> anti pattern" you'll find someone with an opinion not to use something.
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14:11:47  <m00dy>Sharaal: I don't think you have valid reasons to advocate your proposition
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14:13:44  <Sharaal>It was not my goal to advocate something, feel free to use it in the future, I don't care about it. I just gave hints and share own experiences
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14:14:44  <deadbeat>well, dependency management/injection IS a reason not to use singletons.
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14:16:10  <m00dy>deadbeat: can you elaborate your proposition ?
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14:18:29  <deadbeat>for me this often comes up when unit testing something. If my class depends on let's say a database connection, i might want to mock that for the unit test. If i just call the singleton from somewhere within the code, this is way more difficult than using constructor injection, and an instance of that dependency
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14:20:19  <_rgn>have a "model" with functions that wrap the database connection, pass the model as dependency (i.e. argument) to a module that uses the database. mock functions on the model to return specific things, or assert that they are called in specific way
14:20:46  <_rgn>i've one this in my current project and it seems to work well
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14:24:54  <Sharaal>want to have atomic independent tests is an argument, why singletons must not be used
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14:31:32  <deadbeat>_rgn: and now write a unit test for your "model" ;) Though granted that could be unnecessary.
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14:55:27  <akd>I have created a package that depend on styleguide to build doc
14:55:43  <akd>styleguide can be customized and depend on react, when I do npm run build in my project
14:55:50  <akd>having it as a devDeps is suffisient
14:56:08  <akd>but when I install that module, I am trying to import in a webpack build source from that module (that depend on react)
14:56:16  <akd>but that's also for only building a doc
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14:56:23  <akd>so I presume I dont want them as a peerDeps
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14:56:56  <akd>can I have in that case react in devDependency ? or should i use optionalDeps?
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15:01:55  <freetlas>Hey guys. I installed 'node-adwords. I've been trying to get it to work, but I still don't understand it very well. Have anyone used it before?
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15:07:56  <akd>Does package A that has peerDependency work if installed in devDependency in package B when installed A ?
15:08:02  <akd>-ed+ing
15:08:42  <freetlas>Hey guys. I installed 'node-adwords. I've been trying to get it to work, but I still don't understand it very well. Have anyone used it before? Sorry I repeat the message but after the netsplit no one would probably read it
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15:19:52  <akd> I have react peerDeps and devDeps of package A, I am installing package A in B, in B react is not required in production so I want to keep it devDeps. Will it solve the peer requirement ?
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15:22:01  <cart_man>Anybody ever had this error using KNEX -> Unhandled rejection Error: ER_NOT_SUPPORTED_AUTH_MODE: Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server: consider upgrading MySQL client.
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15:22:21  <cart_man>I have the latest NPM MYSQL and NPM KNEX
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15:24:41  <zsoc>use `mysql2`
15:24:49  <zsoc>if you're going to be using it with knex anyway
15:25:03  <cart_man>where do I set that.. is it a KNEX settings in setup?
15:25:26  <zsoc>? you tell knex what driver to use, just change `mysql` to `mysql2` (and also have it installed, ofc)
15:25:43  <zsoc>it's the `client` prop in the knex config, yes
15:26:16  <cart_man>zsoc Ok so I have just done that
15:26:22  <cart_man>npm install mysql2 --save
15:26:32  <cart_man>and then also settings is client:`mysql2'
15:26:40  <cart_man>client:'mysql2'
15:26:43  <cart_man>Soo now its
15:27:03  <cart_man>Unhandled rejection Error: Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client
15:27:10  <cart_man>:`(
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15:27:18  <zsoc>ha, so you've discovered something important
15:27:27  <zsoc>the error is in the configuration of the db server xD
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15:28:07  <cart_man>zsoc Oh lol... dammit always something huh? ahm ok is this something new with a newer MySQL Server? Or is it just bad setup on my part. First time trying on windows
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15:28:26  <zsoc>not really always something, mysql is just a bag of bones
15:29:01  <zsoc>so, according to the 832894892 issue threads that come up when you put this into google.. you probably are using `mysql_old_auth` and/or you need to allow insecure auth
15:29:30  <zsoc>(instead of mysql_native_password): https://github.com/mysqljs/mysql/issues/1507#issuecomment-242885003
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15:30:07  <zsoc>eg you're trying to connect without a password... although tbh that sounds like a bad idea anyway?
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15:34:10  <cart_man>zsoc Ok I got to run but Ill try that tomorrow.. I just tried it and got a syntax error.. anyway I am a bit late.
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15:34:18  <cart_man>See later
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17:41:51  <cthulchu>gonna use it to measure promise times: https://www.npmjs.com/package/p-time
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17:49:49  <Miles8of9>which version of nodejs should i install? 8 or 10?
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17:53:30  <joepie91>Miles8of9: seems 10 has only come out recently, so I'd give it a few days or weeks to let the rest of the ecosystem adjust before jumping onto 10
17:53:38  <joepie91>and stick with 8 for now
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17:54:06  <Miles8of9>ok
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17:54:45  <Miles8of9>i have version 5.4.1 installed by visual studio.. i created a project and run it but gor errors
17:54:47  <Miles8of9>got
17:55:00  <Miles8of9>System.AggregateException: 'One or more errors occurred. (Unexpected token {
17:55:00  <Miles8of9>SyntaxError: Unexpected token {
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17:55:19  <Miles8of9> at exports.runInThisContext (vm.js:53:16)
17:55:20  <Miles8of9> at Module._compile (module.js:373:25)
17:55:40  <joepie91>Miles8of9: 5 is old and unsupported; it also doesn't have significant ES6 support, which is probably why that's breaking
17:56:04  <joepie91>Miles8of9: even-numbered versions are LTS versions and are supported long-term; odd-numbered versions are only supported for one cycle
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17:56:20  <joepie91>(so 5 has been unsupported for quite some time, and I'm not sure why VS is installing that for you)
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18:07:08  <Miles8of9>if i install nodejs using the standard installer package etc etc, does it start automatically at system boot or not?
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18:08:34  <joepie91>Miles8of9: what would "it" be? Node.js in and of itself doesn't do anything, it just runs the code you give it
18:08:47  <RLa>Miles8of9, it's not a daemon
18:09:12  <RLa>Miles8of9, but you can use a process manager to run it as so
18:09:29  <RLa>Miles8of9, systemd for example
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18:09:55  <RLa>but of course, first make sure you understand what node is
18:10:27  <Miles8of9>ok thanks
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18:41:21  <Miles8of9>npm WARN deprecated [email protected]: XSS vulnerability fixed in v1.0.3
18:41:26  <Miles8of9>how do i fix this?
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18:49:13  <RLa>Miles8of9, you need to upgrade if it's your direct dep or upgrade the dep where it is dep of
18:49:34  <earendel>if its your dependency and you can afford it: npm update
18:49:35  <earendel>Miles8of9:
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18:49:47  <RLa>npm ls shows you the dep tree
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18:50:28  <earendel>RLa: you would plead to update a
18:50:29  <joepie91>specifically:
18:50:33  <joepie91>npm ls [email protected]
18:50:34  <joepie91>@ Miles8of9
18:50:37  <earendel>indirect dep? and how?
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18:52:15  <Miles8of9>visual studio project template is VERY VERY VERY outdated... there is nothing it can do...
18:52:16  <earendel>zzZ
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18:53:31  <dunnousernamefn>Does any async/await stuff change between 8.10 and the latest? I'm having to downgrade my program
18:53:41  <earendel>wonder how you would maintain, frickin some deep deps' update hence
18:53:47  <dunnousernamefn>Also, VM has been stable for a while, right?
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18:54:59  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, they made it faster
18:55:05  <dunnousernamefn>how much so
18:55:13  <dunnousernamefn>I'm just using JSON
18:55:21  <dunnousernamefn>And no, not JSON.parse
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18:55:31  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, in theory, the behavior shouldn't be any different; the spec was published before node 8 came out
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18:55:39  <dunnousernamefn>okay, cool
18:55:56  <dunnousernamefn>It's just the one most important library that doesn't work lol
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18:56:12  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, also node 10 came out very recently, so might want to give it a bit before upgrading
18:56:28  <dunnousernamefn>I'm using AWS lambda, I don't have control D:
18:56:29  <GreenJello>like in the past 48 hours
18:56:32  <earendel>it will @ end of april, no>
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18:56:43  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, I really doubt lambda supports 10
18:56:45  <dunnousernamefn>Oh, I mean that I have to downgrade software
18:56:54  <earendel>or so. at least some stable new version or sth iirc. its april.
18:56:56  <dunnousernamefn>So I'm wondering what I have to change
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18:57:02  <GreenJello>they didn't even have node 8 last time I used it
18:57:11  <dunnousernamefn>They support 8.10 as latest
18:57:12  <earendel>dunnousernamefn: you said doesnt work now?
18:57:24  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, cool; that makes it a lot more usable
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18:57:42  <dunnousernamefn>Yes, I tested my code in the AWS version and it doesn't work, but it works locally with latest
18:57:44  <GreenJello>I was doing terrible things to make stuff work in node 6
18:58:00  <dunnousernamefn>But, the thing is, it doesn't work when I use nvm to install 8.10 locally either
18:58:07  <GreenJello>the difference between node 8 and 10 is fairly minimal
18:58:17  <dunnousernamefn>hmmm, I wonder why software broke then
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18:58:42  <earendel>what exactly?
18:58:46  <GreenJello>however, upgrading from node 10 to node 12 will be much easier
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18:59:04  <dunnousernamefn>cheerio.js
18:59:14  <GreenJello>since they stabilized the native APIs. In this current change, it's likely to break a lot of native code
18:59:16  <dunnousernamefn>I'm using it for low memory dom parsing
18:59:32  <GreenJello>cheerio shouldn't be affected
18:59:34  <earendel>k. used this one as well.
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18:59:58  <GreenJello>we had a talk about node 10 at work, and decided to wait until October before switching
19:00:22  <dunnousernamefn>It seems to be though, when I use $ it returns an empty set, and $([anything]).text() is ''
19:00:23  <earendel>i dont see how at least. but if it is, it should be quickly issued formally
19:00:29  <GreenJello>it happens to be a good amount of time for everything to catch up in the ecosystem, and marks the start of the LTS window
19:00:33  <earendel>its popular.
19:00:50  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, install nvm
19:00:53  <dunnousernamefn>I did
19:00:57  <dunnousernamefn>And I tested with 8.10
19:01:10  <GreenJello>oh, it even breaks when lambda isn't used, just changing versions?
19:01:13  <dunnousernamefn>nvm run 8.10 index.js returns a length 0 set
19:01:14  <dunnousernamefn>Yea
19:01:19  <GreenJello>wow, okay
19:01:41  <dunnousernamefn>It's really hard to figure out errors like that lol, I just added an entire library trying to fix https
19:02:18  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, now try to figure out if cheerio is the problem (if you haven't done this). Log the input you're passing to cheerio
19:02:30  <dunnousernamefn>Yes, it's the same
19:02:34  <dunnousernamefn>both the same length
19:02:36  <earendel>nothing in the issues.
19:02:57  <GreenJello>dunnousernamefn, file an issue on the cheerio repo; ideally with a test case
19:03:06  <dunnousernamefn>I'll do that
19:03:08  <earendel>i bet its some broken connection while fetching stuff
19:03:23  <GreenJello>I don't have time to dive into it currently, but someone will fix it quickly if they can reproduce it
19:03:24  <dunnousernamefn>I can send it to you guys to check over if you'd like in a sec
19:03:30  <dunnousernamefn>oh lol
19:03:40  <dunnousernamefn>Let me get on writing a test case
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19:09:02  <dunnousernamefn>Hmm, I can't seem to reproduce it
19:09:10  <dunnousernamefn>I wonder if my https returns a buffer
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19:15:34  <dunnousernamefn>I wonder if I just need to update cheerio :O
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19:24:15  <dunnousernamefn>wait, my node is downgraded to v6? :o
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19:30:33  <dunnousernamefn>Wow, I'm an idiot; I'm GET-ing html that doesn't even have the content I need
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19:38:28  <ljharb> for nvm users: https://twitter.com/ljharb/status/989226591598211072
19:38:48  <bajax>I'm scouring google, but I can't find info on this... weren't there other settings that NPM/etc could use for NODE_ENV besides just development and production?
19:38:54  <bajax>I swear there was something like "staging"
19:39:22  <ljharb>bajax: you can put literally any string you want there
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19:39:41  <ljharb>but most things only expect blank, development, production, or test
19:39:52  <ljharb>where “blank” is the empty string
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19:40:00  <bajax>ljharb: I know, but I seem to remember that you could have another dependencies section
19:40:11  <bajax>Maybe I just dreamed it-- or it was for another package manager
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19:40:59  <bajax>I can just stuff my live testing stuff into dev
19:41:05  <ljharb>nope, no other
19:41:18  <ljharb>deps, dev deps, peer deps, optional deps, and bundled deps (which only npm looks at)
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