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00:08:11  * AvianFlutopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: Database creation is temporarily offline - it will return shortly. Sorry for any inconvenience.| Pricing FAQ: http://jit.su/#/paas/faq
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00:46:47  <raphie>wat do: https://gist.github.com/3af896f3baeb20fea686
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00:47:04  <coderarity>that's new
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00:47:08  <AvianFlu>I mean... what!?
00:47:14  <AvianFlu>how consistently?
00:47:18  <AvianFlu>on what operation?
00:47:46  <raphie>this is a wee bit urgent...
00:48:03  <raphie>jitsu deploy
00:48:33  <AvianFlu>try again?
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00:50:03  <AvianFlu>raphie_, update your jitsu?
00:50:04  <raphie_>woot, working again
00:50:09  <raphie_>that's strange
00:50:12  <AvianFlu>ok, bad server probably then
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00:58:10  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/exists-fixes] [fix] exists and existsSync fixes - Joshua Holbrook
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02:06:09  <ImBcmDth>so what are the limits to the free plan? has that been decided because the terms talks about them but never enumerates them...I don't want to make you guys angry with me! :)
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02:30:16  <nickt>hey all. I was in here earlier today asking about account activation, and one of the admins (i think) approved my account but I never got an email. Can i ask one of you to check into that?
02:32:20  <tbranyen>nickt: when that happened to me i just had to do the password reset thing
02:32:27  <adambrault>nickt ditto! I think we were both asking at the same time.
02:32:31  <adambrault>tbranyen ahh
02:32:47  <nickt>adambrault yea! i remember you from earlier
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02:32:51  <nickt>i was in here as Nick__
02:32:53  <adambrault>yep
02:33:10  <nickt>tbranyen - where can i do that? was there supposed to be an email about it?
02:33:14  <adambrault>tbranyen I recall him saying that, but thought I was still going to get an email. thanks for the help! will try that.
02:34:05  <tbranyen>nickt: jitsu tool
02:34:21  <nickt>ah i see. awesome thanks, will try it
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02:37:26  <adambrault>tbranyen well, tried that, but did not get an email.
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02:39:00  <nickt>same :/
02:39:09  <nickt>i got "cannot reset password for inactive account"
02:39:41  <tbranyen>bah
02:39:44  <tbranyen>sorry to get your hopes up!
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02:43:07  <adambrault>tbranyen it was a good tip. thanks!
02:48:14  <nickt>yea thanks tbranyen! was worth a shot
02:48:31  <nickt>alright i'm heading out. 'night everyone
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03:13:08  <nmanousos>i'm having a deploy issue - the jitsu says the app started, but I get a nodejitsu 404 page
03:13:27  <lefnire>what's jitsu logs say?
03:14:11  <nmanousos>a lot of ECONNRESET
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03:15:33  <lefnire>oi, i'm no help then
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03:17:45  <jesusabdullah>nmanousos: Which connection is being reset?
03:18:20  <jesusabdullah>nmanousos: If you can copypaste me jitsu output and those app logs I'd be grateful
03:18:30  <jesusabdullah>nmanousos: in a gist, of course. https://gist.github.com
03:19:18  <nmanousos>the ECONNRESET was from socket.io
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07:09:45  <ImBcmDth>what kind of reasons do you get socket hang up errors on app deploy?
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08:51:56  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/compare/11dc48bf5ee3...280635066076
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09:35:41  <yawnt>good morning
09:36:58  <mmalecki>hey yawnt
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09:39:45  <yawnt>sup mmalecki, doing better :D?
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09:44:59  <mmalecki>yawnt: during better than when?
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09:46:47  <yawnt>mmalecki: you seemed kinda upset on twitter
09:47:27  <mmalecki>yawnt: I do tend to seem upset on twitter when I'm drunk
09:47:44  <yawnt>hahha good then
09:48:13  <yawnt>i'm reading Oauth Draft, such a bestseller
09:48:44  <mmalecki>lol
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10:12:18  <mnem>Does the node platform have libcairo installed? I heard a rumour that it did (I'm playing around with node-canvas just now), but all the deploys I try don't seem to find it.
10:15:41  <yawnt>is anyone from estonia here?
10:18:29  <mmalecki>mnem: yeah, it's installed but we're still working out some smartos issues related to compilation flags
10:18:56  <mnem>Ahh, ta. I'll keep trying every so often then :)
10:20:33  <mnem>Oh, one thing I noticed was that sometimes certain libraries were available, but on other deploys they weren't- usually libjpeg. Is that just beta bumpiness, or am I missing something that tells my app to deploy to a specific type of drone?
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10:21:10  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/resourceful/commit/65170c22b9dc
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10:29:38  <mmalecki>mnem: actually, fix might be on some drones already... that's kind of interesting, I'd need to talk with Bradley who deployed something related to that
10:29:44  <mmalecki>bradleymeck: ^
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11:15:18  <MeLight>Hello dear dudes
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11:15:26  <yawnt>hello
11:15:43  <MeLight>yawnt: how is your nutella today?
11:16:22  <yawnt>not good i fear
11:16:29  <yawnt>it looks all browny :(
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11:16:49  <MeLight>Oh my, I hope it's nothing serious
11:16:56  <MeLight>Damn
11:17:05  <MeLight>forgot to buy one yesterday!
11:17:13  <MeLight>Although I must say I've bought nice shorts
11:17:26  <MeLight>I hope not to forget it today
11:17:47  <yawnt>quick, code a todo list that communicates with your phone via Twilio
11:18:05  <yawnt>actually i made one a while ago
11:18:19  <yawnt>it basically sent you an sms to remind you of something
11:18:33  <yawnt>based on your planner
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11:18:47  <rmachado>hi :)
11:18:59  <MeLight>I dont have a planner
11:19:05  <MeLight>hi rmachado
11:19:18  <MeLight>and am googling twilio now
11:19:36  <MeLight>Ah, i know twilio
11:19:52  <yawnt>i was actually using tropo because it has free account for devs
11:20:01  <yawnt>and it is worldwide
11:20:10  <yawnt>but i think twilio is better
11:20:22  <yawnt>http://3scale.github.com/2012/06/29/irc-driven-development-part-2/
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11:21:19  <senorjonion>Hello - are there any support ppl in?
11:21:39  <rmachado>Guys, I'm trying to activate my nodejitsu account, however you keep saying that you hit you maximum for 'today'... for many days by now :D .... Is it here any specific time to activate? :D Or you're still improving the servers to maintain quality?
11:21:42  <pksunkara>senorjonion: sup?
11:21:54  <pksunkara>rmachado: what's your username?
11:22:15  <senorjonion>Hi - sporadically getting the following error message on http://hat.jit.su
11:22:26  <senorjonion>An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
11:22:44  <rmachado>'Cause I really wanna test the service to subscribe for a 5 drones account. But for that I need to see it working...
11:22:55  <rmachado>pksunkara rmachado
11:23:03  <pksunkara>senorjonion: it's working for me
11:23:15  <senorjonion>Yeah .... happens sporadicaly.
11:23:21  <lpin>mnem you get this when deploying? ld: fatal: file /opt/local/lib/libpcairo.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
11:23:32  <pksunkara>rmachado: activated, pls check your mail
11:23:51  <pksunkara>senorjonion: randomly when deploying?
11:24:02  <rmachado>thanks m8 ... will do ;-) expect a subscription soon! (from me at least)
11:24:09  <rmachado>and thanks for the support
11:24:09  <rmachado>;)
11:24:15  <senorjonion>No ... just like that. Nothing to do with deploying ....
11:24:17  <lpin>if so the build system still miss the -m64 flag
11:24:19  <senorjonion>In the browser
11:24:30  <MeLight>ah, thats a first, Nodejitsu not ok
11:24:34  <MeLight>without errors :(
11:24:53  <pksunkara>senorjonion: you might want to wait for mmalecki
11:25:00  <senorjonion>OK.
11:25:15  <pksunkara>you might be in a bad server
11:25:30  <senorjonion>Anyway - difficult to replicate as it works say 50 times and then it doesn't ...
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11:28:39  <rmachado>ahm pksunkara 1 question.... jitsu is asking me an invite code ... was it supposed to be in the e-mail?
11:28:46  <pksunkara>yes
11:29:34  <rmachado>hm... actually it didn't ... :|
11:29:59  <rmachado>it told me to install the jitsu
11:30:12  <rmachado>to run the confirm command
11:30:16  <rmachado>but no code ... hmm let me see
11:30:20  <pksunkara>yes, install jitsu
11:30:25  <pksunkara>and confirm
11:30:59  <rmachado>yeah but the invite code is optional?
11:31:24  <rmachado>this is what shows when I run the command:
11:31:36  <rmachado>info: Welcome to Nodejitsu
11:31:44  <rmachado>info: It worked if it ends with Nodejitsu ok
11:31:58  <rmachado>info: Executing command users confirm rmachado
11:32:05  <rmachado>prompt: invite code:
11:32:36  <rmachado>oh yeah, it's optional
11:32:42  <rmachado>nevermind ;) :) thanks
11:32:44  <rmachado>hm
11:32:45  <rmachado>no
11:32:48  <rmachado>it's not
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11:33:44  <mmalecki>rchern: hey
11:33:45  <mmalecki>er
11:34:00  <mmalecki>rmachado: sorry, there's some weird issue with invite codes
11:34:08  <rmachado>oh ok :/
11:34:08  <mmalecki>rmachado: I activated you by hand :)
11:34:14  <rmachado>thanks man :)
11:34:20  <mmalecki>pleasure :)
11:34:27  <mmalecki>now gotta go find food or I'll starve
11:40:19  <MeLight>bon apetite
11:45:22  <MeLight>Mwuahahaha
11:45:26  <MeLight>It's alive
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11:45:31  <MeLight>http://chachat.jit.su/
11:46:06  <MeLight>Ok, didn't know I was supposed to pass the app to socket.io constructor
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11:49:22  <MeLight>ok, so when I create an express server, and make it listen on an arbitrary port, jitsu reroutes it from 80?
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11:52:49  <MeLight>Im amazed that this stuff works lol
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12:02:11  <elbuo>hey im having issues again deploying an application which requires bcrypt
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12:05:16  <elbuo>https://gist.github.com/3082913
12:07:44  <MeLight>I didn't log to twitter in like a week
12:08:02  <MeLight>but now I'm gonna tweet about this jitsu thing!
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12:18:06  <elbuo>hello?
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12:36:26  <mnem_>lpin: sorry, wandered off for lunch there. No, it just says cairo not found (I don't know how to fetch the build/config.log for more details): https://gist.github.com/eb76267cd057c27f4070
12:38:25  <elbuo>https://gist.github.com/3082913
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12:52:40  <elbuo>can somebody help me with some dependency issues?
12:53:50  <mmalecki>elbuo: sup?
12:53:55  <mmalecki>oh, right
12:54:05  <mmalecki>elbuo: I'll be rolling out a patch to fix than in few minutes
12:54:20  <mmalecki>s/than/that/
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12:54:39  <elbuo>its not an error on my end?
12:55:26  <mmalecki>nope, it's our fault
12:55:49  <elbuo>xD ive been busting my head trying different versions and everything
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13:37:03  <elbuo>mmalecki: do you mind giving me a shout when you roll out the patch?
13:38:13  <spolu>By any chance, someone knows where is the connect.session.ignore gone?
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13:56:01  <nickt>very exciting. activation of accounts has hit daily limit. how often or when should i attempt to maximize my chances of activation?
13:57:10  <mmalecki>elbuo: sure
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14:06:19  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] AvianFlu pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/oKjHwg
14:06:19  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [dist] Version bump, v0.9.1 - Charlie McConnell
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14:20:20  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] nodejitsu/jitsu#146 (master - e3b4d22 : Charlie McConnell): The build was fixed.
14:20:20  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/compare/280635066076...e3b4d2274bbf
14:20:20  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/jitsu/builds/1826343
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14:23:08  <AvianFlu>DAMN RIGHT IT WAS
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14:25:25  <yawnt>hai
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14:32:42  <MeLight>so whats gonna happen to the beta accounts once you go live with the pricings?
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14:33:36  <yawnt>you'll have to pay i guess
14:33:47  <pjnovas>hey!
14:33:52  <yawnt>hai
14:33:59  <pjnovas>how r u?
14:34:08  <pjnovas>I need a little support :S
14:34:31  <pjnovas>I have just registered a domain at nic.com
14:34:57  <pjnovas>and ... I would like to point it to my nodejitsu app
14:35:17  <pjnovas>which are the name servers?
14:35:42  <yawnt>http://dns.jit.su/
14:35:50  <pjnovas>I tried out dns.nodejitsu.com ... but it throws an error: "Name Server not registered"
14:36:02  <pjnovas>oh ok .. lets try that one :D
14:36:06  <bradleymeck>pjnovas: we do not currently provide NS records
14:36:16  <pjnovas>oh ok
14:36:20  <pjnovas>so ..
14:36:21  <bradleymeck>we are working on a custom solution since providers are slow in testing
14:36:42  <bradleymeck>not a top priority though
14:36:55  <pjnovas>do you know how can I point to my nodejitsu app from nic.com?
14:37:03  <mmalecki>pjnovas: use A records
14:37:15  <mmalecki>explained on dns.jit.su
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14:37:38  <pjnovas>yeah, I saw that ... I couldn't find it inside nic.com
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14:41:17  <pjnovas>PairNIC?
14:41:35  <mmalecki>hm, I never used nic.com
14:42:01  <mmalecki>there should be some form for A records tho
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14:45:16  <yawnt>lol
14:45:21  <yawnt>they answered for the .ee domain
14:45:22  <yawnt>150€
14:45:55  <bradleymeck>i wonder how many weeee*.ee domains there will be
14:46:10  <yawnt>prolly none
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14:46:42  <yawnt>http://weee.ee/ looks free
14:46:47  <yawnt>haven't whoised though
14:48:29  <pjnovas>got it, thanks!!!
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15:11:53  <ImBcmDth_>is there a hard (time) limit on app deploy size? because my full app is failing with "socket hang up" but a stripped down version missing resources is working
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15:12:10  <coderarity>how big is your full app?
15:12:27  <bradleymeck>if you break 5min it will be angry right now
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15:12:38  <pksunkara>lmjabreu: keep them less than 30 MB
15:12:48  <pksunkara>and make sure npm install doesn't take long
15:12:50  <bradleymeck>we are going to bump it to 15min later this week
15:13:15  <lefnire>speaking of "socket hang up", what's the best way to debug that?
15:13:19  <coderarity>ImBcmDth_, suggestion: host static resources on a CDN like backspace cloudfiles
15:13:25  <coderarity>rackspace*
15:13:29  <ImBcmDth_>around 100mb :) I guess I should move the big parts to s3
15:13:39  <coderarity>yeah :P
15:13:40  <ImBcmDth_>ok, I figured as much
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15:14:04  <pksunkara>ImBcmDth: 30 MB would be ideal
15:14:38  <russfrank>regression in one of my prs :(
15:14:43  <russfrank>it's jesusabdullah's fault for merging it!
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15:16:11  <fatjonny>Is there a way to specify the python version? I am having a problem getting bcrypt to install with node-gyp when deploying
15:16:20  <bradleymeck>env: {}
15:16:32  <bradleymeck>PYTHON:/opt/local/bin/python2.7
15:16:53  <elbuo>im also having fajonny's issue
15:17:18  <bradleymeck>in your package.json set env.PYTHONE="/opt/local/bin/python2.7"
15:17:25  <bradleymeck>PYTHON*
15:18:01  <fatjonny>bradleymeck: I get an EACCES
15:18:06  <fatjonny>error
15:18:13  <bradleymeck>gist it
15:18:45  <fatjonny>will do. The weird thing is I have other apps that work with bcrypt on nodejitsu that I have deployed since the switch
15:19:10  <bradleymeck>yea, node-gyp has some quirks still
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15:19:31  <coderarity>bradleymeck, btw, i'm totally moving to texas
15:19:59  <coderarity>bradleymeck, i'm gonna be at college station (where texas a&m is) about 2 hours from austin
15:20:00  <mmalecki>oh, damn, I forgot to run a deploy
15:20:01  <bradleymeck>python2.7 has execute privileges for the nobody user after looking fatjonny so its going to be me vs node-gyp
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15:21:44  <fatjonny>bradleymeck: fun fun. Here is the gist: https://gist.github.com/4db4514d8b76bdfd3d45
15:23:08  <bradleymeck>fatjonny mmmm it looks like node-gyp is trying to write outside of the directory it was placed in, reading
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15:30:07  <cjm>i'm running into the same error as fatjonny
15:30:49  <bradleymeck>fatjonny try setting env.USERPROFILE='.' , seems gyp is expecting the nobody user to have write access to the HOME dir but that should override it
15:31:26  <bradleymeck>coderarity: sounds fun
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15:33:47  <elbuo>bradleymeck: i just tried that and it didnt work :/
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15:34:17  <bradleymeck>fun, reading...
15:34:32  <fatjonny>bradleymeck: it didn't work for me either
15:35:25  <bradleymeck>mmm gyp, y you angry… what about setting HOME … (terrible idea but /shrug if it works)
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15:35:41  <bradleymeck>will need to send an email to isaacs about the nobody user issue
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15:39:01  <booyaa>holy cow archlinux on the raspberrypi has node.js v0.8
15:39:36  <booyaa>v0.8.2 it's actually current
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15:40:07  <ImBcmDth>ok next issue. i use browserify locally and everything is fine, but on the server the pseudo-file browserify.js returns a 404. nothing in the logs except the file not found error.
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16:02:02  <yawnt>when's the new version of resourceful going to be published?
16:03:38  <pksunkara>yawnt: soon
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16:05:14  <yawnt>pksunkara: lemme know, i'm still using npm via github/branch
16:05:26  <pksunkara>yawnt: sure
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16:11:54  <yawnt>http://code.craftcoffee.com/
16:12:00  <yawnt>gosh i'd love to work there :|
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16:14:35  <mmalecki>yawnt: ror? really?
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16:15:14  <lefnire>haha, i saw and thought "yawnt, prepare yourself"
16:16:00  <yawnt>mmalecki: coffee
16:16:15  <yawnt>who cares bout ror when there's coffee involved
16:16:20  <mmalecki>lol
16:16:23  <lefnire>exactly :)
16:17:24  <pksunkara>yawnt: ruby? really? I am disappointed in you
16:17:33  <yawnt>pksunkara: ruby is beautiful
16:17:45  <mmalecki>I like Ruby, I only hate RoR
16:17:46  <yawnt>it's the philophy of the people behind rails that made me sick of it
16:17:50  <pksunkara>oops, I meant RoR
16:18:01  <yawnt>that's different
16:18:06  <yawnt>i don't like rails either
16:18:11  <yawnt>it's way too monolithic
16:18:21  <lefnire>what's actually the issue people have with rails? i kinda like it :s
16:18:32  <lefnire>but the again, I'm stuck in Drupal 9-5
16:18:45  <pksunkara>lefnire: one obvious reason is slow
16:19:03  <lefnire>ah, blocking?
16:19:04  <pksunkara>and there are many technical reasons
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16:19:42  <lefnire>gotcha
16:20:44  <yawnt>lefnire: one reason is
16:20:45  <yawnt>it's boring
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16:23:38  <yawnt>it'd be cool if they used coffeescript @ craftcoffee
16:23:47  <yawnt>not awesome, just cool
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16:29:07  <elbuo>bradleymeck: was the bcrypt error resolved?
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16:32:47  <elbuo>:/
16:33:11  <elbuo>it was working fine until this morning when i deployed and update
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16:34:45  <AvianFlu>you guys are both getting the python3 error?
16:36:45  <elbuo>not any more
16:36:56  <AvianFlu>what's it look like now?
16:36:58  <elbuo>ill gist what its poping now
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16:37:32  <elbuo>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/3084520
16:37:51  <yawnt>https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/derbyjs/0FYwP41xIKo they're talking bout nodejitsu!
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17:11:56  <beda>Im getting the following error after jitsu deploy: An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
17:12:19  <beda>handball.jit.su
17:12:42  <pksunkara>bradleymeck: ^^
17:13:10  <mmalecki>beda: when trying to access your app?
17:13:45  <beda>yes, when accessing the app in the browser http://handball.jit.su
17:14:22  <fatjonny>AvianFlu: We get a python 3 error until we explicitly set it to use python 2.7, then we get a different error about permissions
17:14:52  <AvianFlu>well at least we're all on the same page!
17:14:53  <AvianFlu>that's something.
17:15:14  <mmalecki>hrm, so setting explicitely works?
17:15:25  <mmalecki>that's even weirder
17:15:39  <AvianFlu>granted, it's a page of aramaic...
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17:16:25  <mmalecki>beda: works for me?
17:16:46  <AvianFlu>mmalecki, not for me
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17:17:38  <beda>error is now gone, but it cannot load resources from public/ (i now get 500 internal server error in the chrome developer console).
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17:23:25  <yawnt>uhm
17:23:37  <yawnt>if i were to code a lib
17:23:46  <yawnt>that needs to support multiple ways of storing datas
17:23:54  <yawnt>and has to be able to perform CRUDS on those datas
17:24:08  <pksunkara>multiple ways?
17:24:16  <yawnt>would you have a "engine" with methods like `createModel, updateModel, removeModel`
17:24:22  <yawnt>so that one can code his own adapter
17:24:35  <yawnt>or would you suppose that there are certain methods that can be called on the Model
17:24:48  <pksunkara>certain methods
17:24:49  <yawnt>and one could wrap his own storage system in an object that has those methods?
17:25:37  <yawnt>someone else? (not that i don't trust you pksunkara , i just wanna hear more point of views :P)
17:25:48  <yawnt>mmalecki: jesusabdullah AvianFlu ?
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17:27:22  <mmalecki>beda: please try now
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17:28:37  <beda>Still get http://handball.jit.su/stylesheets/screen.css 500 (Internal Server Error)
17:28:56  <beda>Do I have to redeploy: jitsu deploy?
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17:29:28  <mmalecki>beda: interesting as it works for me. can you find out what IP are you hitting?
17:29:46  <mmalecki>and yeah, please try to redeploy
17:29:51  <elbuo>beda: it also works for me
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17:31:41  <beda>thanks, maybe there is an error on my part. I will check.
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17:41:46  <AvianFlu>elbuo, fatjonny - try setting the env var HOME to '.'
17:41:52  <AvianFlu>i.e. jitsu env set
17:41:56  <AvianFlu>see if it helps
17:45:27  <elbuo>nop
17:45:29  <elbuo>same thing
17:45:39  <elbuo>blew up AvianFlu
17:46:18  <AvianFlu>same EACCES?
17:46:35  <elbuo>error: gyp ERR! rebuild error Error: EACCES, mkdir '/opt/haibu/apps/elbuo/.node-gyp'
17:46:47  <AvianFlu>okay, well
17:46:59  <AvianFlu>so much for the cheap fix - real hotfix on the way in like 10 minutes
17:47:08  <AvianFlu>thanks for helping us sort this out, guys
17:47:14  <elbuo>hahaha thats fine
17:47:29  <elbuo>i actually tested it for heroku and it also blows up
17:47:39  <AvianFlu>well good. at least we aren't losing.
17:47:41  <AvianFlu>...to them.
17:47:57  <AvianFlu>you'd still be on AWS even if it worked there, though
17:48:02  <AvianFlu>and that just has... that smell to it
17:48:04  <AvianFlu>the smell of latency
17:48:17  <AvianFlu></troll>
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17:49:12  <elbuo>dont worry haha, btw do you have a date on when prices are going to be up?
17:49:37  <elbuo>im very curious on how much bandwidth we are allowed in our free accounts
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17:52:21  <mmalecki>elbuo: we don't limit bandwidth
17:52:38  <elbuo>:D score
17:52:53  <elbuo>only storage i guess right?
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17:54:24  <mmalecki>elbuo: well, no :)
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17:54:36  <mmalecki>elbuo: that's what our db providers limit
17:55:09  <elbuo>sounds good to me
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18:08:29  <AndreasMadsen>when is Marak usually online?
18:09:12  <mmalecki>AndreasMadsen: rarely. what do you need?
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18:09:39  <AndreasMadsen>mmalecki: I need him, to check his mail
18:09:53  <AndreasMadsen>* no comma
18:10:11  <mmalecki>normally I'd say "send him an email", lol
18:10:37  <AndreasMadsen>mmalecki: but apparently that isn't very effective
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18:13:32  <AndreasMadsen>I could send him another one, but I hate being too persistent.
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18:13:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] flatiron/resourceful#140 (couchids - 1e31dad : Pavan Kumar Sunkara): The build is still failing.
18:13:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/resourceful/compare/6cf75531df6d...1e31dad6f7f0
18:13:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/resourceful/builds/1828656
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18:22:50  <lefnire>are there any recommended steps to handling "socket hang up"? like (1) make sure you're using port > 1024, (2) make sure your app is < 50mb, etc?
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18:23:08  <lefnire>since it results kinda in no logs one can check
18:23:12  <mmalecki>lefnire: yes, those exactly
18:23:25  <lefnire>ha, actually?
18:23:28  <lefnire>(2) i just made up
18:23:43  <mmalecki>:)
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18:41:32  <lefnire>YEAH!
18:41:36  <lefnire>http://habitrpg.jitsu.com/ at long last
18:41:49  <lefnire>god damnit, paas debugging is hard
18:42:12  <mmalecki>oh, it gets even harder when you are the paas
18:42:29  <lefnire>i'll bet! (with that in mind, hope it doesn't sound like i'm complaining)
18:42:42  <lefnire>(especially with the support & freeness that jitsu offers)
18:43:06  <lefnire>(we love jitsu)
18:43:58  <elbuo>yes we do
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18:44:13  <elbuo>btw nice lefnire
18:44:26  <lefnire>thank you sir!
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19:08:26  <tmpvar>hola st_luke
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19:14:29  <lyaunzbe>hola
19:14:46  <elbuo>aloha
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19:17:49  <lyaunzbe>Is open beta arriving as we speak? :)
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19:21:20  <AvianFlu>indeed:)
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19:22:48  <pjnovas>hi!
19:23:05  <pjnovas>I'm getting: An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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19:24:52  <nlognbob>anybody here to investigate a failing server? http://nlogn2.nodejitsu.com/
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19:26:51  <mmalecki>nlognbob: yeah, on it
19:26:54  <mmalecki>pjnovas: same ^
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19:28:17  <graeme_f>Woo! Public beta! Getting Nodejitsu Error (400): Bad Request - Invalid Invite Code :(
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19:29:49  <ian_brasil>woo hoo..got my beta account..nice one guys
19:29:52  <Gottox>hi! while installing nodejitsu, I got the following error: http://pastebin.com/s2Rga2BB
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19:30:49  <mmalecki>pjnovas: username/appname?
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19:31:31  <mmalecki>cool.
19:31:50  <elbuo>fail
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19:32:19  <mmalecki>nlognbob: fixed
19:32:26  <jesusabdullah>hey friends
19:32:37  <jesusabdullah>graeme_f: Invalid invite code, you say? I'll take a look.
19:32:42  <nlognbob>thanks!
19:32:43  <pjnovas>should I restart?
19:32:44  <fatjonny>blog.nodejitsu.com is down
19:32:52  <pjnovas>I still have it
19:32:53  <jesusabdullah>working on it
19:32:55  <pjnovas>:S
19:32:55  <mmalecki>fatjonny: nope, back up
19:33:18  <fatjonny>mmalecki: hmm, still down for me.
19:33:23  <mmalecki>pjnovas: username/appname?
19:33:41  <mmalecki>cache :/
19:33:42  <jesusabdullah>Gottox: Try 'npm cache clean' and then `npm install jitsu -g`
19:33:51  <pjnovas>pjnovas/nolaborables
19:34:07  <jesusabdullah>okay, so, let's see what's up with you graeme_f
19:34:18  <graeme_f>@jesusabdullah: think i worked out what it was - i had 2 accounts, one from where i signed up on the website ages ago and one when i got an invite from irc
19:34:35  <jesusabdullah>graeme_f: I see. So we're good?
19:34:36  <fatjonny>mmalecki: yeah, I see it on another computer. Caches are nice, until they aren't.
19:34:49  <graeme_f>@jesusabdullah: yeah i think so - and congratulations! :)
19:35:08  <bradleymeck>fatjonny: indeed wish that one day i get a --no-cache option
19:35:11  <fatjonny>mmalecki: actually, when I reloaded on that computer I got the same message again
19:35:35  <mmalecki>fatjonny: might be the cache too
19:35:50  <fatjonny>maybe. I just wanted to read a blog article! :)
19:36:08  <mmalecki>fatjonny: now? http://blog.nodejitsu.com/nodejitsu-is-now-in-public-beta
19:36:30  <Gottox>jesusabdullah: thanks, worked :D
19:36:42  <pjnovas>wow
19:36:50  <pjnovas>was the browser cache
19:36:56  <fatjonny>still no go for me. It is not consistent. I was actually wanting to read: http://blog.nodejitsu.com/ten-lessons-learned-maintaining-nodejs-modules :)
19:37:06  <pjnovas>I have cleaned the browser cache and now it works
19:37:12  <pjnovas>thats weird :S
19:38:05  <mmalecki>fatjonny: can you curl it?
19:39:29  <fatjonny>mmalecki: yep
19:39:52  <elbuo>AvianFlu: could you ping me when that hotfix rolls out?
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19:41:13  <fatjonny>mmalecki: it all seems to work now.
19:41:46  <mmalecki>fatjonny: interesting
19:42:54  <chjj>http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4225680 - upvote if you like! :)
19:43:15  <fatjonny>mmalecki: It seemed like after a change was pushed that I was getting routed to possibly the old instance? I don't know if you had to do another deploy to update the blog or not. Just a guess.
19:44:02  <lefnire>upvoted
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19:44:18  <mmalecki>fatjonny: yeah, zero-downtime deploy might've kicked in
19:44:52  <lefnire>jitsu apps update: error: Error running command apps updateerror: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Errorinfo: Nodejitsu not ok
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19:45:06  <lefnire>but jitsu deploy works fine. will that do everything apps update will?
19:45:07  <pksunkara>lefnire: try again pls
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19:45:50  <bradleymeck>lefnire deploy is generally all i ever use
19:45:59  <st_luke>congrats jitsus
19:45:59  <lyaunzbe>clear
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19:46:14  <lefnire>ok, cool. i'll just stick to that then. an ditto on the congratz guys!
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19:47:09  <adambrault>Hey, congrats nodejitsu team on the public beta launch!
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19:48:46  <daveluke>hi.. what exactly causes ECONNREFUSED
19:49:24  <jesusabdullah>adambrault: thanks!
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19:50:09  <jesusabdullah>daveluke: generally, something tries to connect to something else and the system's like, "lolnope" for whatever reason (example, no listener on the port/host specified)
19:50:23  <jesusabdullah>daveluke: so, it's general enough that it's hard to be like, "oh, this is what fixes THAT problem"
19:50:47  <daveluke>jesusabdullah, is it something with my code that causes it?
19:50:51  <jesusabdullah>lefnire: "update" is intended to just update the metadata for your application.
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19:50:56  <jesusabdullah>daveluke: I need more context.
19:51:17  <jesusabdullah>daveluke: where are you seeing an ECONNREFUSED?
19:51:25  <daveluke>jesusabdullah: http://zombz.jit.su/ the index.html won't even load
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19:51:43  <jesusabdullah>what port is your app trying to listen on?
19:51:47  <jesusabdullah>is it above 1024?
19:51:57  <daveluke>1337
19:52:14  <jesusabdullah>okay
19:52:19  <daveluke>well the server does.. the client listens to no port
19:52:26  <daveluke>because it's supposed to magically go to 80
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19:52:38  <jesusabdullah>in that case the client connects to port 80
19:52:48  <jesusabdullah>but your server's listening on 1337? That's what's important here
19:52:49  <daveluke>right
19:52:54  <daveluke>yeah
19:53:35  <fatjonny>jesusabdullah: I have been seeing that error a lot recently right after a deploy (and that is what I was seeing for blog.nodejitsu.com just a few minutes ago).
19:53:35  <jesusabdullah>Okay, asking around, let's see what we can do here
19:54:07  <mmalecki>daveluke: username/appname?
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19:54:59  <AphelionZ>Hi all, is there an issue with using custom node modules that are in the filesystem like: node_modules/module.js?
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19:55:11  <daveluke>according to the log, it looks like people are playing the game
19:55:18  <mmalecki>daveluke: should be fixed
19:55:18  <AphelionZ>I have node_modules/swagger.js and I'm getting the "cannot find module" error
19:55:44  <daveluke>mmalecki, thank you.. what caused it?
19:56:24  <mmalecki>daveluke: application server went down and for some reason wasn't restarted by forever, gotta find out why
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19:56:31  <mmalecki>also, when you guys see it, just redeploy
19:56:36  <jesusabdullah>AphelionZ: Is it in your bundledDependencies ?
19:56:53  <jesusabdullah>AphelionZ: npm ignores files in node_modules unless directed to otherwise.
19:57:21  <AphelionZ>jesusabdullah: let me try that...
19:57:32  <jesusabdullah>AphelionZ: either way, you usually don't want a node_modules/file.js anyway
19:57:37  <daveluke>mmalecki, i also noticed that my connection while running the app drops (eventually)… this did not happen when running locally
19:57:44  <jesusabdullah>You usually want folders in node_modules, which each contain well-known packages.
19:57:45  <daveluke>is that a common issue too?
19:57:48  <lefnire>will custom domains show in http://develop.nodejitsu.com/ app details?
19:57:50  <jesusabdullah>or rather, well-formed packages.
19:58:06  <jesusabdullah>lefnire: I don't think so? Not the worst idea though.
19:58:27  <lefnire>kk, maybe i just need to wait on dns then
19:58:51  <jesusabdullah>lefnire: You can do 'jitsu apps view myApp' and that should show the metadata
19:59:04  <jesusabdullah>lefnire: dns can take upwards of 15, 20 minutes easy
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19:59:09  <jesusabdullah>and that's just standard TTL's
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19:59:49  <lefnire>got it. always tough playing with domains 'cause you never know if you made a mistake, or if dns propagating still
19:59:58  <jesusabdullah>yeah, totes
20:00:58  <AphelionZ>jesusabdullah: what do you mean by well known packages? like the dependencies of each module?
20:01:17  <jesusabdullah>AphelionZ: I mean, well-formed packages
20:01:31  <jesusabdullah>AphelionZ: each folder has files plus its own package.json (y'know, a "real module")
20:01:49  <jesusabdullah>AphelionZ: Why's that file in node_modules anyway? If it's app code you should either have it in the top level or, like, in ./lib/
20:02:02  <AphelionZ>good point, I'll scoot those around
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20:02:28  <charuru>is a drone
20:02:32  <lemonad>Suddenly getting "An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}" as a response to my app now. What could be wrong?
20:02:40  <charuru>better or worse than an ec2 small instance?
20:03:07  <mmalecki>lemonad: username/appname? also, please redeploy while I fix that
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20:03:20  <Fudge_>ohai >:D
20:04:12  <lemonad>mmalecki lemonad/hawfin.ch (I'm a little bit scared to redeploy as my site was down all weekend due to me deploying and ending up at Joyent :)
20:04:34  <mmalecki>lemonad: ok, sec, fixing
20:04:36  <jesusabdullah>charuru: Depends on whether it's dedicated or shared
20:04:43  <mmalecki>lemonad: also, if it fails, it'll still work
20:04:45  <jesusabdullah>charuru: dedicated means one drone :: one box
20:04:48  <mmalecki>because zero downtime deploys
20:05:04  <lemonad>mmalecki Thanks so much for the help! Should I redeploy now?
20:05:15  <Fudge_>k so I'm pretty much new to nodejitsu
20:05:16  <Fudge_>whats a drone
20:05:17  <Fudge_>:P
20:05:27  <jesusabdullah>http://jit.su/#/paas/fa
20:05:32  <jesusabdullah>whaaaaa
20:05:38  <jesusabdullah>http://jit.su/#/paas/faq
20:05:39  <jesusabdullah>^^^
20:05:46  <jesusabdullah>That answers a lot of those pasic questions
20:05:49  <Fudge_>oh right
20:05:50  <Fudge_>lmao
20:05:51  <Fudge_>thanks
20:05:53  <mmalecki>lemonad: please :)
20:05:59  <jesusabdullah>Fudge_: All good!
20:06:23  <Fudge_>jesusabdullah: hmm... so what about bandwidth restrictions?
20:06:31  <Fudge_>brb
20:07:48  <roly>which blogging framework does nodejitsu use?
20:07:55  <mmalecki>roly: blacksmith
20:08:06  <roly>mmalecki: thank you
20:08:38  <mmalecki>roly: pleasure
20:08:46  <lefnire>oh you guys wrote flatiron?
20:08:51  <lefnire>well i'll be
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20:09:47  <mmalecki>lefnire: hell yeah we did :)
20:09:58  <lefnire>good stuff :)
20:10:27  <mmalecki>lefnire: did it work?
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20:10:56  <lefnire>what's that, flatiron?
20:11:13  <mmalecki>or, sorry
20:11:17  <mmalecki>lemonad: did it work?
20:11:19  <lefnire>i used derby for my recent deploy - haven't tried flatiron yet, but keep hearing all about it
20:11:23  <lefnire>ah
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20:11:31  <mmalecki>lefnire: you should try :)
20:11:44  <lefnire>certainly will
20:11:57  <lemonad>mmalecki First deploy failed with "Error: Rackspace Error (404): Item not found", trying again.
20:12:21  <mmalecki>wtf...
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20:12:27  <mmalecki>why rackspace error I don't even
20:13:13  <booyaa>hey congrats on going decloaking the beta ;)
20:13:19  <booyaa><-- got his beta invite
20:13:36  <lemonad>mmalecki do you want a gist of the error output?
20:14:16  <mmalecki>lemonad: yes plase
20:14:24  <lemonad>mmalecki Second deploy ended with "Error: socket hang up".
20:14:46  <pjnovas>:(
20:14:59  <pjnovas>An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
20:15:19  <lemonad>mmalecki https://gist.github.com/3085924
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20:16:54  <mmalecki>SO MANY LOGS
20:16:59  <mmalecki>pjnovas: username/appname?
20:17:15  <pjnovas>pjnovas/nolaborables
20:17:28  <pjnovas>maybe its me
20:17:38  <pjnovas>:S
20:17:41  <proberts>does anyone know how to deploy an app with bcrypt as a dependency? It keeps throwing an error when it tries to compile with python
20:18:05  <AvianFlu>proberts, we need to roll out a fix for bcrypt to compile
20:18:17  <proberts>so for now I can't?
20:18:17  <AvianFlu>lots of common compiled addons aren't fond of smartOS
20:18:27  <AvianFlu>no, later today it should be fixed
20:18:29  <mmalecki>pjnovas: how are you calling .listen?
20:18:32  <proberts>okay, thank you.
20:19:15  <charuru>jesusabdullah: yes i'm asking about the dedicated
20:19:49  <jesusabdullah>charuru: Context? Sorry, really busy day here today
20:20:02  <charuru>oh i asked if a drone is better than ec2 small
20:20:16  <jesusabdullah>Ah, I see
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20:20:41  <jesusabdullah>well, the thing is, it depends on which cloud you run your dedicated on, etc. But I'd imagine joyent's small boxes are comparable charuru
20:20:45  <jesusabdullah>charuru: same with rackspace smalls
20:20:58  <jesusabdullah>charuru: and we have the capability to do AWS as well
20:21:08  <Netalarm>are the paid plans ready?
20:21:09  <jesusabdullah>charuru: but for the moment our public beta is on joyent using shared machines
20:21:15  <jesusabdullah>Netalarm: No, but SOOON
20:21:19  <charuru>okay
20:21:32  <jesusabdullah>Netalarm: We want to give people to play around with our open beta before we drop the bill on 'em ;)
20:21:33  <elbuo>hahaha
20:21:43  <Netalarm>but the pricing is pretty much set? or is that likely to change too?
20:21:49  <charuru>i think i read somewhere that joyent performance compares quite favorably to aws
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20:22:19  <jesusabdullah>Netalarm: Pricing is set. We have a blog post about it, and it's announced on nodejitsu.com
20:22:28  <jesusabdullah>Netalarm: shared drones are $3.00 apiece iirc
20:22:32  <Netalarm>hmm
20:22:33  <jesusabdullah>per month
20:22:48  <jesusabdullah>if I were back in college I would've jumped on a $3.00 drone man
20:22:54  <jesusabdullah>"hell yeah website"
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20:22:59  <jesusabdullah>"cheaper than WoW"
20:23:00  <lemonad>mmalecki Third kind of error on third deploy https://gist.github.com/3085988
20:23:27  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: ^^^ you know the fix
20:23:36  <jesusabdullah>my deploys bring all the developers to the yard
20:23:37  <pjnovas>var port = process.env.PORT || 3000;
20:23:37  <Netalarm>@ jesusabdullah you an employee?
20:23:38  <pjnovas>app.listen(port, function(){
20:23:40  <pjnovas> console.log("NoLaborables server listening on port %d in %s mode", app.address().port, app.settings.env);
20:23:41  <pjnovas>});
20:23:52  <jesusabdullah>Netalarm: I'm support overlord extraordinaiew
20:23:56  <jesusabdullah>extraordinaire*
20:23:58  <Netalarm>lolol
20:24:15  <jesusabdullah>maciej and avian here are our leet/sweet devops tag team today
20:24:25  <mmalecki>pjnovas: appears to work for me
20:24:36  <lefnire>you guys are on fire today
20:24:43  <pjnovas>now it's working :)
20:24:47  <mmalecki>maciej is me, btw
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20:24:58  <pjnovas>so ... do you know what could be making this error?
20:25:15  <AvianFlu>mmalecki, maybe it's that stupid app.address.port bug?
20:25:15  <willwh>jesusabdullah: how goes le kohai? :)
20:25:21  <AvianFlu>oh, that's in the callback
20:25:23  <AvianFlu>crappy
20:25:24  <willwh>when I go and check out your branch, you always have local deps :P
20:25:43  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: PYTHON3
20:25:59  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: tell lemonad the fix for that
20:26:08  <AndreasMadsen>mmalecki: is the deploy done?
20:26:22  <jesusabdullah>willwh: public beta came first
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20:26:51  <Netalarm>I think I'm not getting something... on the blog it says "It may be surprising to you that Nodejitsu is not offering an unlimited free tier. This is intentional."
20:26:58  <mmalecki>AndreasMadsen: deploy itself, yes, but right now I'm running with an extinguisher
20:27:02  <Netalarm>but then i see the thing about the developer sandbox
20:27:22  <willwh>jesusabdullah: all good ofc :)
20:27:24  <willwh>just asking
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20:28:08  <AndreasMadsen>mmalecki: ok.
20:28:13  <cbrake>Hi, I'm having trouble deploying the simple server.js example: https://gist.github.com/fea9487ef4fae4b6289d
20:28:21  <mmalecki>AndreasMadsen: tomorrow
20:28:40  <cbrake>is there anything I should be doing different?
20:28:48  <jesusabdullah>Netalarm: Sandbox is temporary.
20:28:56  <AndreasMadsen>mmalecki: hmm, can I first talk with AvianFlu tomorrow?
20:29:09  <jesusabdullah>Netalarm: Contrast this to Heroku, which can let you run hundreds of dollars worth of compute for basically free
20:29:10  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: uhm, yeah, that's what I sadi
20:29:12  <mmalecki>*said
20:29:30  <AvianFlu>lemonad, set env.PYTHON=/opt/local/bin/python2.7
20:29:41  <lemonad>AvianFlu I'll try that!
20:30:09  <AndreasMadsen>mmalecki: no problem, need some sleep anyway :)
20:30:41  <Netalarm>hmm... but jesusabdullah you just basically said "run hundreds of dollars worth of compute for basically free" --- when describing Heroku
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20:35:36  <lemonad>AvianFlu I get the same error after setting env.PYTHON (I'm already running Python 2.7). (This is the error output https://gist.github.com/3085988)
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20:37:29  <lefnire>host habitrpg.com > Host habitrpg.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN). Does this DNS setup look correct? https://img.skitch.com/20120710-k5ikawk627b5xsrdj1a1nmiky.jpg
20:37:42  <AvianFlu>lemonad, oh, that's different
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20:38:49  <lemonad>AvianFlu Please advise ;)
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20:40:22  <AvianFlu>lemonad, I think we can patch for that, give me a few minutes
20:40:55  <lemonad>AvianFlu That's great news — let me know when I should try to redeploy!
20:40:56  <charuru>i'm pretty sure you'll find that nobody actually runs hundreds of dollars of compute on heroku for free, and that it's just a marketing gimmick haha
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20:42:04  <lefnire>$3 a drone is free anyway. last I looked at no.de was $60 cheapest plan?
20:45:14  <jesusabdullah>charuru: "nobody" huh? Even with a lot of legitimate, paying users that seems like a huge drain to me
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20:45:26  <jesusabdullah>charuru: I mean, how many people have come to nodejitsu because they heard it was free? ;)
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20:49:16  <dylang>After deploying a working app I now get "An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}"
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20:49:42  <dylang>The wierd thing is that i was listening on my local debug port 7777 and it was working on port 80.
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20:50:06  <dylang>When i corrected it to port 80 deploys would fail, so i put it back to 7777.
20:51:19  <dylang>This is a machine that's been up for a couple weeks. My code targets Node 0.6.x (I know, but upgrading production is much bigger hassle.)
20:51:43  <jesusabdullah>dylang: We just migrated to joyent, your old machine was probably still on rackspace
20:52:10  <dylang>it was working fine until i did the deploy about 10 minutes ago
20:52:19  <jesusabdullah>dylang: Our balancers forward port 80 to whatever port you listen on, and there's a bit of a snafu regarding ports lower than 1024 on joyent
20:52:26  <jesusabdullah>dylang: So when did you deploy before that?
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20:52:42  <dylang>lets see ... 7/2
20:53:22  <jesusabdullah>that may have been before the joyent switch was flipped
20:53:36  <jesusabdullah>I kinda have a love/hate relationship with SmartOS right now -_-;
20:54:03  <duckbox>Silly Question #1 : Anyone having difficultly deploying? socket errors..?
20:54:18  <dylang>oh yeah... my production machine is a joyent smartos box too :)
20:54:22  <jesusabdullah>not a silly question duckbox, but there are lots of ways a socket can error so I'd need to see the full output
20:54:40  <duckbox>error: socket hang up
20:54:41  <duckbox>error: Error: socket hang up
20:54:41  <duckbox>error: at createHangUpError (http.js:1107:15)
20:54:41  <duckbox>error: at Socket.onend (http.js:1188:27)
20:54:42  <duckbox>error: at TCP.onread (net.js:369:26)
20:55:02  <jesusabdullah>duckbox: http://gist.github.com
20:55:14  <jesusabdullah>duckbox: paste the entirety of everything into a gist, I need context homes!
20:55:28  <duckbox>Silly response #1 : Sowie.
20:55:38  <jesusabdullah>all good, as long as you learn :)
20:56:29  <duckbox>https://gist.github.com/3086179
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20:57:12  <lefnire>might be worth adding an FAQ or troubleshooting section. "socket hang up" - make sure (1) port > 1024 (2) app size < 50 someodd-MB, etc. After that come to IRC
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20:59:10  <duckbox>Switching port to 1024 worked like a charm
20:59:13  <duckbox>Major thank yous!
20:59:17  <jesusabdullah>beautiful.
20:59:31  <lefnire>eh? eh? *nudge nudge*
20:59:35  <jesusabdullah>lefnire: Those are relatively new developments, and ones I hope we can make go away.
20:59:41  <lefnire>gotcha
20:59:55  <jesusabdullah>Alright guys, I'm going to step out momentarily
21:00:01  <jesusabdullah>All this supporting is HARD WORK!
21:00:11  <jesusabdullah>but I'll brb to help moar soon
21:00:20  <lefnire>thanks for all the help man
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21:02:40  <duckbox>Indeed, thank you kindly!
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21:06:28  <jesusabdullah>^__^ Glad to help! I want you guys to enjoy nodejitsu as much as I do :)
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21:10:49  * AvianFlutopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: Welcome to Public Beta! Please listen on a port > 1024 and ask for help if you have issues with compiled dependencies. | Pricing FAQ: http://jit.su/#/paas/faq
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21:16:17  <chakrit>Congrats guys :)
21:16:20  <AvianFlu>PUBLIC BETA!!! WOOOOOOOO
21:16:24  <AvianFlu>oh wait, I work here
21:16:26  <duckbox>Hell yeah, congrats!
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21:17:25  <dylang>I swtiched to port 1024 and i'm still getting An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
21:17:29  <cade_>I'm trying to install jitsu through npm and it fails with this output: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1699826
21:17:42  <cade_>any one know what's up
21:18:03  <cade_>(congrats on public beta, by the way :D )
21:18:19  <AvianFlu>dylang, in your browser?
21:18:37  <AvianFlu>what's the app name?
21:18:40  <dylang> Yeah: http://doddev.jitsu.com/
21:19:04  <dylang>Doodle or Die
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21:19:17  <lefnire>THE doodle or die?
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21:19:25  <EhevuTov>http://helloworld.ehevutov.jit.su/
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21:19:29  <EhevuTov>oops
21:19:45  <chakrit>I'm still having problems creating/destroying Dbs. just me?
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21:19:50  <mmalecki>dylang: username/appname?
21:20:07  <potomak>hi, I'm the one who can't reset his password
21:20:12  <AvianFlu>dylang, it's showing as stopped
21:20:15  <AvianFlu>try deploying again?
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21:20:55  <potomak>I've done it on the web
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21:22:13  <cjm>An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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21:22:17  <AvianFlu>chakrit, can you gist the output?
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21:22:41  <AvianFlu>cjm, appname?
21:23:04  <cjm>nodeup
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21:23:46  <lefnire>good podcast
21:24:02  <jesusabdullah>dylang: I'm a fan of DoD by the way. I don't really play but I follow the subreddit.
21:24:07  <cjm>thanks :)
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21:27:26  <AvianFlu>cjm, doc update fail, should be back up now
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21:27:41  <cjm>thanks!
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21:28:01  <chakrit>Sry, the net went down just the moment I asked the question :(
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21:28:21  <jesusabdullah>cade_: Try running 'npm cache clean' and then try installing jitsu again
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21:28:38  <cade_>jesusabdullah: thanks, trying now
21:28:56  <jonahwerre>I upgraded to [email protected] and I'm getting this :"error: npm ERR! Failed at the [email protected] install script."
21:29:05  <jonahwerre>anyone with some insight?
21:29:07  <jesusabdullah>jonahwerre: bcrypt doesn't like SmartOS
21:29:15  <jonahwerre>oh
21:29:17  <jesusabdullah>jonahwerre: We recently migrated from rackspace, which ran linux machines
21:29:24  <jonahwerre>I see
21:29:29  <jonahwerre>so don't use bcrypt?
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21:29:49  <jonahwerre>is there anyway around this?
21:29:51  <jesusabdullah>jonahwerre: We're working to rectify this situation as a number of modules seem to depend on bcrypt. But yes, for now, avoid using bcrypt.
21:30:02  <jonahwerre>ok
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21:30:29  <jonahwerre>@jesusabdullah do you have an ETA?
21:30:30  <cade_>jesusabdullah: seems to have worked, thanks a bunch!
21:31:24  <btleffler>Trying to run 'jitsu databases create mongo myDB' and it says "A new mongo has been created" followed by "error: Database does not exist" followed by "Nodejitsu ok." Not sure what to believe! Either way I don't get a connection url. Is MongoHQ under heavy load, or am I doing something wrong?
21:31:24  <jesusabdullah>jonahwerre: No. It's very tough to time estimate these kind of things.
21:31:41  <chakrit>I have the same problem w/ btleffler
21:31:43  <dylang>jesusabdullah: thanks! We're working on more features for people who like to read the funny chains but don't want to draw.
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21:31:54  <chakrit>+ I now have some dbs with duplicate name when doing databases list.
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21:32:14  <btleffler>@charit: didn't try that one
21:32:14  <jesusabdullah>I'm not sure what's going on with databases but I believe it's a known problem?
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21:32:52  <lemonad>AvianFlu Any progress with the Python patch?
21:33:15  <jesusabdullah>lemonad: I believe they're patching as we speak
21:33:18  <mmalecki>yes
21:33:30  <mmalecki>#hardcoredevopsaction
21:33:44  <lemonad>Awesome work :)
21:34:14  <dylang>jesusabdullah: jez the app was stopped, that was the only problem? how did i not notice that? usability issue?
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21:35:02  <jesusabdullah>jonahwerre: Can you gist me that full error? I'm making an issue on the bcrypt github
21:35:08  <btleffler>@jesusbdullah: Ok, thanks! Otherwise everything looks really cool!
21:35:32  <jesusabdullah>btleffler: Thanks! Normally databases are pretty cool too, really!
21:35:43  <btleffler>I'm sure haha
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21:36:56  <dylang>it hasn't caused any problems but it seems like our server runs twice based on the logs, but not as a cluster.
21:38:48  <jesusabdullah>Interesting.
21:38:53  <lefnire>still getting domain errors. jesusabdullah any chance you tell me if this seems legit -ish at a glance? http://goo.gl/X2kNH
21:40:13  <mprem>Hello, got the public beta email, I can login to my account at develop.nodejitsu.com , and i was able to confirm "jitsu users confirm..." as mentioned in the email but can't login from terminal..getting error: Unable to Authenticate as .... error: Nodejitsu Error (401): Not Authorized
21:41:10  <jesusabdullah>lefnire: The ip addresses look correct. However, look at https://gist.github.com/8267e6eb0f35ddcc6b49
21:41:24  <jesusabdullah>lefnire: You want that command to look like the nodejitsu one
21:41:33  <jesusabdullah>mprem: username?
21:41:52  <mprem>will pvt it
21:41:58  <jesusabdullah>sure
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21:42:18  <lefnire>well bother. k thanks, will debug
21:42:21  <dylang>is it possible to pre-install stable modules so they are there for every deploy so deploys can be a little faster?
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21:42:42  <mprem>btw, is pvt chat private, is it archived?
21:42:45  <yawnt>yoyoyo
21:42:52  <jesusabdullah>mprem: I'm not archiving it
21:43:09  <mmalecki>slurp is archiving it
21:43:26  <yawnt>lol slurp
21:43:34  <mmalecki>http://piscisaureus.no.de/nodejitsu/latest
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21:44:00  <mprem>is slurp a bot?
21:44:13  <mprem>does it archive private chats also?
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21:44:29  <mmalecki>mprem: no
21:44:39  <mmalecki>there's no way one can archive private chats
21:44:42  <mmalecki>and yeah, it's a bot
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21:45:07  <mprem>thought so but making sure :-)
21:45:09  <mprem>thanks
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21:45:34  <lefnire>gtg, you jitsus have been awesome - and grats
21:45:53  <mprem>btw, where can i find specs ( memory /cpu) for individual drone
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21:46:29  <vekexasia>hey
21:47:01  <vekexasia>someone here?
21:47:12  <AvianFlu>lots of people!
21:47:15  <vekexasia>I'm trying to create my first app
21:47:17  <duckbox>lots n lots
21:47:22  <vekexasia>or better deploy :P
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21:47:34  <vekexasia>I get Error spawning drone: no matching engine found
21:47:43  <AvianFlu>vekexasia, we don't have 0.8 support yet
21:47:52  <AvianFlu>next week though, I think
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21:47:58  <vekexasia>ha ok
21:48:00  <vekexasia>perfect.
21:48:02  <vekexasia>:P
21:48:30  <vekexasia>how to switch my app to use node 0.6 ?
21:48:34  <vekexasia>just for test ?
21:48:48  <chakrit>getting weird result from all databases command : https://gist.github.com/3086362 + datbases list show duplicate dbs :/
21:48:48  <AvianFlu>put an "engines" field in your package.json
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21:49:12  <duckbox>"engine" : { "node":"0.6.x" }
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21:49:20  <duckbox>engines*
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21:49:58  <AvianFlu>yep, what duckbox said
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21:51:05  <vekexasia>duckbox works flawlessy love you :P
21:51:09  <vekexasia><3
21:51:33  <duckbox>:)
21:51:59  <sb_>following hello world example here: https://github.com/nodejitsu/handbook#hiworld and when I attempt to "jitsu deploy" I get "Unable to add properties to package description. Nodejitsu not ok"
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21:52:21  <rburton->re
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21:53:04  <mprem>jesusabdullah: reset worked, thanks
21:53:17  <mprem>can login now
21:53:28  <rburton->Funny how indexzero worked at the same company I did. Except I left after 8 months
21:53:31  <rburton->:)
21:53:55  <mprem>btw, where can i find specs ( memory /cpu) for individual drone
21:54:36  <mprem>$3 is really nice price
21:54:41  <duckbox>@ sb_ do you have all the nj entries in your package.json ?
21:54:53  <jesusabdullah>mprem: You're welcome
21:55:39  <vekexasia>duckbox another very basic question i uploaded my password. it's private right. I mean it's closed source?
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21:55:48  <sb_>no, what should I have in the file
21:56:29  <duckbox>@sb_ http://package.json.jit.su/
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21:57:08  <sb_>awesome, thanks
21:57:20  <duckbox>@vekexasia I have no idea! Thats one for the staff :)
21:57:22  <mprem>link in email for support center is not working, http://nodejitsu.desk.com/ : Sorry, we couldn't find that page.
21:57:34  <jesusabdullah>mprem: We don't use desk, we use zendesk
21:57:47  <jesusabdullah>mprem: I'm going to deactivate the desk.com probably within the week
21:57:53  <jesusabdullah>mprem: try http://bug.jit.su
21:58:02  <vekexasia>jesusabdullah: you look like from the staff.. is my stuff in nodejitsu private ?
21:58:10  <mprem>thats ok, just letting you know hte link in email is wrong
21:58:28  <mprem>you may want to correct it in next email/template :-)
21:58:32  <jesusabdullah>vekexasia: I mean, it's not like we're sharing your app information willy-nilly y'know?
21:58:41  <jesusabdullah>mprem: Link in email? The "confirm" email?
21:58:47  <jesusabdullah>mprem: I'll take a look at that, thanks
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21:59:23  <mprem>jesusabdullah: in [nodejitsu] Forgotten Password email
21:59:37  <jesusabdullah>mprem: Found it
22:00:20  <jesusabdullah>mprem: Thanks, will fix those links tonight once things wind down a bit
22:01:01  <mprem>i hope specs for drone will be available soon
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22:01:49  <mprem>$3 price is so good, would help to know the specs for long term commitment
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22:02:37  <mprem>got burnt by GAE price change, so I always keep that in mind
22:03:23  <mmalecki>mprem: right now drone is 256 MB RAM, one core
22:03:33  <mprem>nice
22:03:35  <mmalecki>mprem: but we're working on making other options available
22:03:36  <duckbox>Nice
22:03:42  <mprem>bandwidth?
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22:03:58  <dscape>uncapped
22:04:05  <duckbox>Sexah
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22:06:51  <dscape>mmalecki
22:06:54  <mmalecki>lol
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22:08:11  <vekexasia>jesusabdullah: thanks for the infos.
22:08:22  * mmaleckigrabs a guitar
22:08:32  <mprem>i am ditching everyone else
22:08:40  <mmalecki>mprem: <3
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22:09:09  <jesusabdullah>vekexasia: Anytime! :)
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22:10:20  <mprem>I know I am asking too much now, but any chance of running third party programs like phantomjs
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22:10:50  <AvianFlu>phantomjs in particular is huge, and complicated, and won't really work out
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22:10:54  <jesusabdullah>mprem: not phantom afaik but you can certainly shell out to some stuff
22:10:54  <AvianFlu>headless webkit is just too much
22:11:07  <jesusabdullah>mprem: for example, we have all the imagemagick utils available
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22:11:34  <domenic>jesusabdullah: what about graphicsmagick?
22:11:37  <mprem>user can upload their binaries?
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22:11:40  <jesusabdullah>there too domenic
22:11:46  <domenic>jesusabdullah: sweet
22:11:50  <jesusabdullah>mprem: you can try, but keep in mind we run smartos
22:12:13  * mpremdoes not know, searching for smartos
22:12:16  * dscapesolaris shop :\
22:12:32  <jesusabdullah>mprem: If you're interested in browser testing, check out http://testling.com and all their open source offerings
22:12:44  <jesusabdullah>lots of good stuff coming from the testling dynamo
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22:16:00  <mprem>thx, will do
22:16:07  <domenic>"Error spawning drone: no matching engine found". My package.json engine is "~0.8"
22:16:13  <johndevor>I'm getting a "Unable to add properties to package description.
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22:16:18  <mmalecki>domenic: we don't support 0.8 yet
22:16:24  <mmalecki>domenic: please use 0.6.x as your engine
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22:16:30  <johndevor>Err: I'm getting a "Unable to add properties to package description." when I try to deploy my app following the demo.
22:16:32  <domenic>mmalecki: :(
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22:16:43  <duckbox>@johndevor you need a package.json
22:16:51  <johndevor>It doesn't auto create it?
22:16:52  <mmalecki>domenic: next week tho, we will
22:17:41  <duckbox>@johndevor No idea, I manually made mine and everything worked
22:18:39  <domenic>Starting add => Error returned from Nodejitsu. Error: socket hang up
22:18:46  <domenic>*Starting app
22:19:24  <duckbox>Use port 1024 for socket hang ups
22:19:53  <domenic>Ah right yeah ports are important. Does process.env.PORT work as well?
22:20:21  <mmalecki>domenic: no, we don't tell you what port to listen on
22:20:28  <mmalecki>so just default to 8000 or something
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22:24:27  <dscape>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11422910/socket-hang-up-on-nodejitsu-what-does-it-mean/
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22:25:17  <vekexasia>upvoted
22:25:36  <mprem>jesusabdullah: mmalecki: thanks for your support, nodejitsu looks great
22:25:42  <jesusabdullah>mprem: Hah, thanks! :D
22:25:55  <jesusabdullah>It's always good to hear that when things have been "exciting" ;)
22:26:02  <vekexasia>is it a trend to ask and answer
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22:26:12  <vekexasia>an own question on stackoverflow?
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22:26:45  <dscape>vekexasia: they have an option for that
22:26:52  <dscape>since so many people are asking that question here
22:26:57  <mprem>I think the $3/drone will be a tipping point, I have not seen such great pricing anywhere for any paas, I hope you guys can keep it
22:27:00  <duckbox>I reckon not many would even notice the question user and answer user
22:27:01  <yawnt>jesusabdullah: this opening totally blew up twitter.. i got like 8/10 tweets talking bout nodejitsu
22:27:02  <dscape>i just added it in SO so people from the internet can find it
22:27:03  <yawnt>lol
22:27:05  * mpremneeds to sleep, its 4am! bye
22:27:13  <jesusabdullah>yawnt: Awesome
22:27:28  <vekexasia>yes dscape
22:27:34  <vekexasia>you're right i was just curious
22:27:52  <yawnt>jesusabdullah: yeah well deserved anyway.. i'm gonna go with the 3 bucks plan asap
22:28:06  <duckbox>Seconded.
22:28:20  <jesusabdullah>word son
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22:28:52  <yawnt>uh potomak was here?
22:28:57  <yawnt>i know him irl
22:28:59  <yawnt>:D
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22:30:12  <ncrohn>Hey there, so I seem to be having an issue when redeploying one of my sites.
22:30:23  <ncrohn>I keep getting An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
22:30:33  <ncrohn>But it's sporadic
22:30:38  <mmalecki>ncrohn: username/appname?
22:30:47  <ncrohn>meltmedia/melt-internal
22:30:54  <mmalecki>looking
22:30:58  <ncrohn>Thanks
22:31:52  <yawnt>im out
22:31:55  <yawnt>cya tomorrow
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22:33:40  <mmalecki>ncrohn: check now, please
22:34:00  <ncrohn>mmalecki: Seems to be gone now. Thanks!
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22:34:45  <mmalecki>ncrohn: pleasure :)
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22:40:50  <duckbox>Right chaps, time for bed. Its been a pleasure chatting to you all, and I look forward to you all taking my money :)
22:40:53  <duckbox>Awesome service.
22:41:03  <mmalecki>duckbox: :). good night!
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22:42:43  <maxogden>JUST COMIN IN HERE TO TELL THE SUPPORT TEAM TO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
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22:43:00  <mmalecki>I lol'd
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22:43:16  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] pksunkara created prompt-regression (+1 new commit): http://git.io/4ltv1A
22:43:16  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/prompt-regression] [fix] Fixed a regression due to prompt new version, very rare - Pavan Kumar Sunkara
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22:44:14  <vekexasia>mmalecki: i did too :P
22:45:06  <jesusabdullah>Nexxy: Your babby's chin is funny :D
22:45:11  <jesusabdullah>Nexxy: Also congrats!
22:45:16  <jesusabdullah>Nexxy: Also what is babby's name?
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23:31:33  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] AvianFlu pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vw7fhg
23:31:33  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [dist] Version bump, v0.9.2 - Charlie McConnell
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23:48:37  <vicapow>anyone know of a good way to profile a node app for memory leaks?
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23:52:12  <AvianFlu>I heard about a new thing earlier today
23:52:16  <AvianFlu>let me see if I still have the link
23:53:13  <AvianFlu>https://github.com/lloyd/node-memwatch
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