00:00:24  <Shaun__>I'm having some issues doing DNS for my nodejitsu account
00:00:43  <Shaun__>jesusabdullah, i saw the article on it, but 101domains keeps saying SOA failed :\
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00:05:56  <coderarity>Shaun__, why are you assigning the SOA record?
00:09:11  <Shaun__>101domains.com lets me change the DNS through a single form
00:09:25  <Shaun__>doesn't have a choice other than enter 10x DNS servers :\
00:09:52  <Shaun__>http://d.pr/i/O6ph
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00:13:48  <coderarity>Shaun__, hmmm
00:14:11  <coderarity>Shaun__, looks like you'd have to have somewhere to host your DNS server?
00:14:36  <coderarity>Shaun__, are you sure there isn't somewhere else you can add A records?
00:14:38  <Shaun__>ya I didnt anticipate this :-P its annoying cause right now I'm cloaking it through 101domains cloak option (just embeds the site in an iframe) but its destroying my meta data for the site
00:15:02  <Shaun__>ill dig through the FAQ a bit
00:15:03  <Shaun__>gimme a sec
00:22:02  <Shaun__>obviously lacking information. I contacted support
00:22:12  <Shaun__>does nodejitsu handle SOA records currently?
00:22:17  <coderarity>nah
00:22:22  <Shaun__>hm
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00:22:41  <coderarity>Shaun__, 101domains support?
00:22:50  <Shaun__>ya
00:23:12  <Shaun__>(im unfamiliar with SOA records in general)
00:23:28  <Shaun__>is it domain specific or in this case the registrar is requiring it?
00:23:31  <jesusabdullah>what are SOA records?
00:23:57  <Shaun__>according to google... Start of Authority
00:23:59  <Shaun__>The first resource record in any Domain Name System (DNS) Zone file should be a Start of Authority (SOA) resource record. The SOA resource record indicates that this DNS name server is the best source of information for the data within this DNS domain.
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00:24:17  <jesusabdullah>Shaun__: 4;2~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNS_record_types
00:24:19  <Shaun__>source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/163971
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00:24:22  <coderarity>"specifies authoritative information about a DNS zone, *including the primary name server, the email of the domain administrator*….
00:24:24  <jesusabdullah>Yes, I just read that
00:24:28  <coderarity>important part is markdowned
00:24:41  <jesusabdullah>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNS_record_types You want to set A records probably, not SOA records.
00:24:46  <coderarity>you are most interested in the primary name server, which we do not provide
00:25:00  <coderarity>jesusabdullah, well, assuming his registrar provides DNS servers as well
00:25:11  <jesusabdullah>coderarity: Sure, I mean, mine doesn't
00:25:12  <Shaun__>ya 101 does
00:25:18  <Shaun__>I've never personally used 101 before
00:25:27  <Shaun__>but its where i was able to obtain my goofy .es domain
00:25:33  <coderarity>Shaun__, I suspect there's somewhere that will let you add an A record then
00:26:20  <coderarity>according to their website you should be able to do that
00:27:19  <Shaun__>where did you find the info?
00:27:22  <Shaun__>(for 101domain)
00:27:28  <Shaun__>i can't seem to find it
00:27:42  <coderarity>http://www.101domains.com/prices.shtml
00:27:54  <coderarity>it says in that list on the right, "Change A / MX / CNAME records for your domain."
00:28:05  <Shaun__>hmm i don't know if 101domain == 101domains
00:28:10  <Shaun__>(I'm registered at 101domain.com)
00:28:32  <Shaun__>i just stumbled on that too -- didn't realize they had competition :-P
00:28:51  <Shaun__>http://d.pr/i/15K2
00:29:14  <Shaun__>where the "s" stands for "we ripped off your site and are stealing your customers"
00:29:18  <coderarity>Shaun__, http://www.101domains.com/faqs/zonefiles_1.shtml#modify-record
00:29:24  <coderarity>oh
00:29:37  <Shaun__>*wishes he went with 101domains.com*
00:29:40  <coderarity>lol
00:31:17  <coderarity>looks like their DNS servers cost more money
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00:31:26  <coderarity>http://www.101domain.com/premium_anycast_dns.htm
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00:33:51  <coderarity>Shaun__, so I guess you're in kinda a stick situation… you'll need to get someone to host the DNS servers. I would normally just say transfer your domain, but you normally can't transfer until a few months after you register the domain, and I assume you just registered it.
00:33:58  <nlognbob>Hi. does anybody know if a 'jitsu apps destroy foo' will help kill of zombie drones for that app, if I leave it destroyed for a few hours?
00:34:52  <coderarity>Shaun__, http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/dns/
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00:35:14  <nlognbob>amazon will host DNS for $0.50 per domain per month
00:35:23  <samholmes>Is nodejitsu+joyent comparable to AWS?
00:35:39  <nlognbob>or dnsmadeeasy for $30/year, 10 domains I think
00:36:19  <nlognbob>samholmes: my drones are here, at Joyent, and my DB is on AWS. I'm getting 5ms round trip delays, which is quite good
00:36:21  <coderarity>samholmes, it's not quite the same, we provide a more managed level of service, and it's a shared plan
00:36:38  <nlognbob>oh, i thought you said 'compatible' :-)
00:37:10  <nlognbob>codearity: any idea on my drone question? even a guess?
00:37:42  <coderarity>samholmes, with AWS you have to deal with provisioning your own servers and installing the images and such, with nodejitsu it's more like `jitsu deploy`
00:37:53  <mmalecki>nlognbob: no, apps destroy doesn't affect any drones, just removes it from our db
00:38:02  <mmalecki>what's up with zombies? you still getting them
00:38:02  <mmalecki>?
00:38:05  <nlognbob>okay
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00:38:33  <nlognbob>I thought they were all gone and then a few checked in once much later, like they re-appeared.
00:38:34  <Shaun__>code rarity thank you
00:38:54  <nlognbob>it is very odd. it is possible that my metrics-gathering company had a hickup, they are still beta
00:38:56  <Shaun__>ill throw a fit with 101domain and see what they say
00:40:05  <bardu>any pointer on how to update an existing couch doc with nano
00:40:43  <samholmes>My general question that I'm trying to answer is, which hosting provide can I go with to run my web service on (web site, app, whatever u want to call it)? Details to this question: I'm expecting my site to reach traffic levels at instagram speeds.
00:41:10  <samholmes>Would nodejitsu or joyent be able to handle this sort of client?
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00:41:22  <AvianFlu>samholmes, you should email [email protected]
00:41:26  <coderarity>^
00:41:27  <AvianFlu>describe what you're trying to build
00:42:05  <nlognbob>mmalecki: i think it was a hickup with my metrics provider, they dont' seem to have that little burst in their display anymore
00:42:47  <samholmes>AvianFlu: instagr.am basically. There will be photos and a lot of social communication aspects. So high amounts of bandwidth and data storage is needed.
00:43:12  <samholmes>What is nodejitsu built for? What sort of apps?
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00:46:31  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: http apps.
00:46:37  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: any and all http apps.
00:47:20  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: we can spin up servers as fast as joyent will give them to us, which is pretty fast.
00:47:24  <samholmes>What about WS apps?
00:47:58  <jesusabdullah>we got that b-roll!
00:48:08  <samholmes>less than 24 hours I can get more servers working behind my app?
00:48:22  <samholmes>haha. NO! That is not b-roll. XD
00:48:48  <coderarity>samholmes, way less
00:48:58  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: You know how deploying an app takes like 30 seconds?
00:49:21  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: each time you do that, we find a clean server and make your stuff run on it. We have a big ol' pool of these suckers just waiting for you to click the "webscale" button.
00:49:29  <jesusabdullah>Y'know, when we hand you the webscale button.
00:49:36  <samholmes>haha
00:49:48  <samholmes>that actually makes me feel mushy inside. XD
00:49:56  <jesusabdullah>perfect.
00:49:57  * samholmesis weird, this you'll get to know
00:50:13  <samholmes>But there are no mentions of bandwidth
00:51:00  <jesusabdullah>unmetered, for now. We'll likely post more in-depth specs for our dedicated machines in the coming weeks.
00:53:20  <samholmes>Are the drones behind huge dedicated machines?
00:53:53  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: dedicated drones are 1:1 with dedicated machines
00:54:00  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: and they'll be reasonably-sized
00:54:10  <AvianFlu>probably variably-sized
00:54:16  <jesusabdullah>indeed
00:54:33  <jesusabdullah>invariably!
00:54:43  <AvianFlu>I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
00:54:50  * slickplaidchuckles
00:55:24  <samholmes>Forgive my noob question, but if one dedicate machine gets xTB in bandwidth, even if you have n dedicated machines how could you exceed xTB bandwidth if all traffic has to go through one load-balancer?
00:57:03  <nlognbob>I'm curious how nodejitsu does it, but since their load balancer has many IPs it could easily be many machines
00:57:47  <AvianFlu>it's definitely many machines
00:57:50  <mmalecki>yeah, we have many load balancers
00:57:53  <mmalecki>9 at this point?
00:57:54  <AvianFlu>and we'd give people their own, as necessary
01:00:01  <samholmes>IIRC, a domain can only point to one IP, so that means one machine, correct? So doesn't the bandwidth cap at what the one machine can handle, or have I got something misunderstood?
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01:00:32  <mmalecki>samholmes: no, you can point your A record to many machines
01:00:46  <mmalecki>which is the simplest way of load balancing ever
01:01:33  <samholmes>How does that work? Which IP does a client use if there are many IPs?
01:02:03  <mmalecki>random one, most likely
01:03:26  <AvianFlu>we'll eventually be running our own nameservers, and doing all sorts of fancy things - but I don't have a timetable for that yet
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01:13:22  <chilts>usually a random one, but if one isn't responding modern browsers will try the next (older browsers won't)
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01:13:44  <AvianFlu>chilts, ++
01:13:45  <kohai>chilts has 3 beers
01:13:58  <chilts>:)
01:14:06  <chilts>I didn't realise I had that many - hehe
01:15:29  <mmalecki>chilts: ++
01:15:30  <kohai>chilts has 4 beers
01:15:43  <chilts>lol
01:15:54  <chilts>fanx guyz
01:17:17  <chilts>does your partnership with JoyentCloud means you're running entirely on Joyent machines?
01:17:26  <chilts>I used to think you did Rackspace, Joyent, AWS etc
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02:10:17  <adollaroutof15c>: ( cant create mongo database
02:10:20  <adollaroutof15c>info: Executing command databases create mongo helloWorld
02:10:21  <adollaroutof15c>info: A new mongo has been created
02:10:21  <adollaroutof15c>info: Database name: undefined
02:10:21  <adollaroutof15c>error: Unknown database type: undefined
02:10:21  <adollaroutof15c>info: Nodejitsu ok
02:10:33  <adollaroutof15c>did i do something wrong?
02:11:44  <adollaroutof15c>Nodejitsu gods please!!! for I am only a mortal!!
02:12:52  <adollaroutof15c>:'(
02:13:48  <mmalecki>adollaroutof15c: looking into it.
02:13:59  <adollaroutof15c>Thanks!
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02:14:33  <mmalecki>adollaroutof15c: what's your username?
02:14:50  <adollaroutof15c>davidcarcamo
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02:17:54  <mmalecki>adollaroutof15c: well, looks like database creation worked
02:18:05  <adollaroutof15c>hmm let me try again
02:18:11  <mmalecki>do a `jitsu db list`
02:19:58  <adollaroutof15c>so i tried again and it asked me for a new DB name so it seemed to know the one i tried creating before was there
02:20:06  <adollaroutof15c>then i tried the list
02:20:12  <adollaroutof15c>and it pooped itself
02:20:16  <adollaroutof15c>check it out
02:20:17  <adollaroutof15c>jitsu db list
02:20:17  <adollaroutof15c>info: Welcome to Nodejitsu davidcarcamo
02:20:17  <adollaroutof15c>info: It worked if it ends with Nodejitsu ok
02:20:17  <adollaroutof15c>info: Executing command databases list
02:20:17  <adollaroutof15c>/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/lib/jitsu/commands/databases.js:181
02:20:18  <adollaroutof15c> results.forEach(function (database) {
02:20:19  <adollaroutof15c> ^
02:20:19  <adollaroutof15c>TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'forEach'
02:20:19  <adollaroutof15c> at databases.list (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/lib/jitsu/commands/databases.js:181:15)
02:20:20  <adollaroutof15c> at Databases.list (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/nodejitsu-api/lib/client/databases.js:56:5)
02:20:21  <adollaroutof15c> at Request.Client.request [as _callback] (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/nodejitsu-api/lib/client/client.js:109:5)
02:20:21  <adollaroutof15c> at Request.request.self.callback (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/nodejitsu-api/node_modules/request/main.js:104:22)
02:20:21  <adollaroutof15c> at Request.<anonymous> (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/nodejitsu-api/node_modules/request/main.js:458:18)
02:20:22  <jesusabdullah>whoa whoa whoa
02:20:22  <adollaroutof15c> at Request.EventEmitter.emit (events.js:88:17)
02:20:24  <mmalecki>uhm, stop
02:20:33  <mmalecki>don't paste things like that, put them in a gist
02:20:36  <jesusabdullah>adollaroutof15c: http://gist.github.com
02:20:42  <adollaroutof15c>oh crap sorry
02:20:42  <mmalecki>okay, that's interesting, looking
02:20:49  <jesusabdullah>adollaroutof15c: I don't want to be mean but if you do that again I'll kick you
02:20:58  <adollaroutof15c>sorry i had no idea
02:21:10  <jesusabdullah>adollaroutof15c: is your jitsu completely up to date?
02:21:43  <adollaroutof15c>i dont know ill install it again and try again
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02:24:42  <adollaroutof15c>still fails after jitsu reinstall
02:24:48  <adollaroutof15c>https://gist.github.com/3133692
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02:28:55  <mmalecki>I'm seeing master API respond with correct data
02:29:00  <mmalecki>at least for me
02:29:10  <mmalecki>please tell me what's your `jitsu -v`
02:29:32  <adollaroutof15c>0.9.4
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02:30:08  <mmalecki>hm, that should be 0.9.5
02:30:11  <jesusabdullah>you want 0.9.5
02:30:31  <adollaroutof15c>i did an npm install again i thought that would give me the latest
02:30:33  <jesusabdullah>maybe npm install [email protected] -g ?
02:30:50  <jesusabdullah>adollaroutof15c: it should. Probably a caching issue or some such
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02:35:00  <adollaroutof15c>ok i have 0.9.5 now, But I still get the errors
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02:35:25  <adollaroutof15c>https://gist.github.com/3133742
02:35:49  <mmalecki>adollaroutof15c: what os are you on?
02:36:10  <adollaroutof15c>mac osx 10.6.8
02:36:24  <mmalecki>okay, do you know how to use tcpdump?
02:36:46  <adollaroutof15c>nope
02:36:49  <adollaroutof15c>but i can learn
02:37:12  <mmalecki>okay, what interface are you using to connect to network? you can find out with `ifconfig`
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02:38:49  <adollaroutof15c>mmalecki: that spit out a bunch of stuff i don't understand https://gist.github.com/3133751
02:39:13  <mmalecki>ok, that'd be en1
02:39:39  <mmalecki>so, now, please run `sudo tcpdump -i en1 -A host api.nodejitsu.com`
02:39:54  <mmalecki>execute the command again
02:40:05  <mmalecki>gist and *pm* me the result from tcpdump
02:40:12  <mmalecki>don't post it here, it has your password
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02:45:48  <jesusabdullah>adollaroutof15c: like, you ran jitsu -v and it outputs "0.9.5" ?
02:46:07  <jesusabdullah>adollaroutof15c: I'd run jitsu -v just to make sure
02:47:14  <adollaroutof15c>jesusabdullah: yeah 0.9.5
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02:52:52  <jesusabdullah>okay just checkin'
02:55:27  <jesusabdullah>CIA-17: BRO
02:55:41  <jesusabdullah>CIA-17: WHO SENT YOU???
02:58:28  <blakmatrix>lol
02:58:40  <blakmatrix>twas me playing around with it
02:59:20  <jesusabdullah>GURL
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03:03:59  <jry>hey everyone, i have a few questions about the scalability of web sockets with nodejitsu
03:05:20  <jry>i am building a game that requires a very real time live stream video, Live HTTP streaming on iOS is too significant of a delay so I'm considering using web sockets for my live stream instead
03:06:17  <jry>can nodejitsu scale up for 100,000 people connected via web sockets all getting pretty decent video+audio quality at 25 - 30 frames per second?
03:06:22  <jry>lots and lots of data
03:06:33  <jesusabdullah>Yes
03:06:58  <jesusabdullah>the only way it won't work is if you grow faster than joyent can make machines, which is extremely unlikely.
03:07:13  <jry>that's amazing :)
03:07:22  <adollaroutof15c>wow yeah that is amazing
03:08:02  <jry>seriously, HTTP live streaming is freaking terrible -- 10 - 30 second delays because of all the handshakes and multiple requests, etc…
03:08:21  <jesusabdullah>also, websockets are so important to us we wrote our own http proxy to ensure they'd always work.
03:08:41  <jry>that's awesome, i love you guys so much right now
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03:10:08  <jry>so how does that fit in with the paid plans? is there a certain amount of people that could be connected per drone and the auto scalability would kick in and keep adding more drones?
03:10:49  <jry>i'm assuming whatever the price is, it's better than then $20,000 - $30,000 I've been getting quoted for iOS live streaming
03:11:02  <jry>* per month for 100,000 viewers each stream
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03:14:50  <jry>anyone know how that fits in with the paid plans? curious how the billing works for doing web sockets at that sort of scale
03:15:14  <AvianFlu>jry, do you already have 100,000 viewers?
03:16:14  <jry>not yet, but this is a project for a major gaming studio, we'll easily hit that when we launch
03:17:07  <AvianFlu>oh, cool
03:17:14  <AvianFlu>you should email [email protected]
03:17:28  <AvianFlu>something that size for a major game studio deserves a specific conversation
03:17:51  <AvianFlu>because the specific needs and specific bottlenecks need specific evaluation
03:18:04  <AvianFlu>and no two things are quite the same at big scale
03:18:04  <jry>gotcha, will do
03:18:12  <jry>thank you very much
03:18:42  <adollaroutof15c>AvianFLu: could you answer the more general question of "is there a certain amount of people that could be connected per drone and the auto scalability would kick in and keep adding more drones?"
03:19:08  <AvianFlu>here's the thing about auto-scaling: the only good way to do it is to let people configure when and how it kicks in
03:19:17  <adollaroutof15c>hmm ok
03:19:27  <mmalecki>yeah, you'll be able to base it on usage of various resources
03:19:35  <AvianFlu>we don't have a public interface for this yet
03:19:36  <mmalecki>like cpu/memory/number of network connections
03:19:38  <mmalecki>yeah
03:19:40  <AvianFlu>but it's going to let you base it on certain metrics
03:19:47  <AvianFlu>and have a limit to how much you'll burst, so to speak
03:19:54  <adollaroutof15c>oh i see
03:19:57  <AvianFlu>so you don't just go broke suddenly if you get to the front page of reddit
03:20:00  <AvianFlu>if you don't want to
03:20:03  <AvianFlu>or whatever
03:20:05  <adollaroutof15c>that makes sense
03:20:23  <AvianFlu>right now, in our beta, we can go in and multi-drone your app manually
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03:20:28  <AvianFlu>and it works quite well
03:20:33  <adollaroutof15c>how far away is an interface like that?
03:20:37  <jry>but the point is you guys are gearing up to handle just this sort of thing, right?
03:20:43  <AvianFlu>yep
03:20:59  <jry>man i love you guys
03:21:02  <adollaroutof15c>how could we as users help? just get paid accounts?
03:21:05  <jry>thank you for being awesome
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03:21:17  <AvianFlu>honestly, sign up for beta accounts and break stuff
03:21:21  <adollaroutof15c>i want to see your service get to your full vision asap
03:21:31  <adollaroutof15c>lol well I have been doing that all day
03:21:44  <adollaroutof15c>now i feel helpfull
03:22:22  <AvianFlu>that's the point of a beta
03:22:35  <AvianFlu>we, the developers, no longer know what it's like to be noobs at using our stuff :)
03:22:38  <AvianFlu>cause we built it all
03:22:55  <AvianFlu>so, we need lots of actual new users to break everything so we can fix it :D
03:24:08  <adollaroutof15c>cool, I am building (trying to build) a nodejs framework and hosting it and its official site and the sample hello world apps on nodejitsu so I should help break lots of stuff
03:26:17  <jry>the latency on using web sockets should be pretty minimal right? the only reason i'm going this direction is to avoid the 10-30 delay with HTTP Live Streaming -- i should be able to get that down to 2 seconds or so with this approach, you think?
03:27:56  <jry>and what about users connected across the world? do they get routed automatically to servers that are closest to them or anything, or by just using web sockets the latency won't be much of an issue
03:28:02  <mmalecki>http streaming has lower overhead than websockets do btw
03:28:14  <mmalecki>unless you're using some crazy module
03:29:11  <jry>yeah i can go either way
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03:30:11  <jry>AvianFlu, what do you think? use web sockets or just use an open http connection for streaming?
03:30:29  <AvianFlu>jry, measure them both
03:30:36  <AvianFlu>that's the only proper way to do it
03:31:06  <jry>would using http streaming be just as ready for autoscaling as web sockets with nodejitsu?
03:32:09  <mmalecki>yes
03:32:31  <mmalecki>it's http too, just like websockets :)
03:32:38  <jry>ah true
03:33:14  <jry>ok that's it for me for tonight, thank you guys very much i'm going to get back to work and start giving this a shot
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03:46:29  <adollaroutof15c>mmalecki: thanks again, I just added my first doc to mongo via nodejitsu
03:46:50  <adollaroutof15c>you guys rock!
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04:16:07  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details: http://travis-ci.org/blakmatrix/pwhash/builds/1891516
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04:21:17  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] blakmatrix/pwhash#3 (master - 69905a6 : Farrin Reid): The build was fixed.
04:21:17  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/blakmatrix/pwhash/compare/667ca9112d06...69905a61e3f6
04:21:17  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/blakmatrix/pwhash/builds/1891532
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05:03:54  <st_luke_>/msg nickserv ghost st_luke
05:04:14  <st_luke_>whoops
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05:09:29  <AvianFlu>st_luke, looks like you might need to call the ghostbusters
05:09:39  <st_luke>I already did it twice
05:10:05  <st_luke>it's reauthenticating
05:10:06  <st_luke>somehow
05:10:15  <AvianFlu>APPARENTLY YOUR GHOST KILLIN SKILLS AREN'T QUITE WHAT THEY SHOULD BE
05:10:24  <AvianFlu>honestly, you left a client on somewhere else, it's the only alternative
05:10:27  <AvianFlu>BNC somewhere mabye?
05:10:50  <st_luke>yeah the client is on but usually I can ghost it and it wont try to reconnect
05:10:59  <st_luke>this is what im gonna do
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05:11:23  <st_luke_>nah that's not going to work
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05:11:52  <st_luke_>WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO PLAY US OUT
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05:38:00  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: kinda like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ
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06:12:59  <chilts>when did all the Twitter messages disappear? (not that I'm too worried) :)
06:13:13  <chilts>just curious
06:15:33  <jesusabdullah>unsure
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10:03:14  <yawnt>hai
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10:21:49  <lpin>hey yawnt, did the guy answered?
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10:33:06  <yawnt>lpin: nop
10:34:17  <lpin>start search someone else
10:34:33  <chakrit>got this after a deploy a moment ago: https://raw.github.com/gist/3135456/5548882c96fb33c020b40e522540ab1e11624b4e/gistfile1.txt
10:34:43  <chakrit>hiredis is having problem buidling?
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10:36:54  <yawnt>lpin: yeha will do
10:37:44  <lpin>chakrit_ yes hiredis has some linking problem
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10:53:59  <chakrit>fyi managed to get it working by npm shrinkwrap hiredis to 0.1.6
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11:18:06  <lpin>chakrit, nice thank you
11:20:49  <chakrit>np :)
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12:41:58  <spolu>hi guys, I'm having this weird error: ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/teleportd/teleportd-admin/admin/node_modules/redis/node_modules/hiredis/build/Release/hiredis.node: symbol redisReaderCreate: referenced symbol not found
12:42:02  <spolu>any idea?
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12:42:07  <spolu>it's on deploy
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13:39:38  <asherkin>spolu: [11:36] <lpin> chakrit_ yes hiredis has some linking problem
13:39:38  <asherkin>[11:53] <chakrit> fyi managed to get it working by npm shrinkwrap hiredis to 0.1.6
13:40:04  <spolu>asherkin: cool let's try that! thanks!
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13:41:41  <AvianFlu>spolu, if the compile had failed completely, it would have fallen back to a js parser - but this is a linker error, so the compile succeeded, and it's in a bad state
13:42:10  <AvianFlu>today, we're either gonna distribute the hiredis library to all our drones, or I'm going to PR node-redis to statically link and bundle hiredis
13:42:29  <AvianFlu>but really, I'm pretty sure I heard the js parser was faster anyway
13:42:50  <spolu>AvianFlu: yep wanted to use the js parser but didn't take the time to look up how to force it?
13:43:12  <AvianFlu>spolu, it uses npm's optionalDependencies for it
13:43:27  <AvianFlu>and none of that logic really expects linker errors to happen
13:43:36  <spolu>AvianFlu: how do I disable it?
13:43:42  <spolu>AvianFlu: not very familiar with optionalDeps
13:43:44  <AvianFlu>offhand, I don't know how to force it, but it should be pretty simple - I'll take a look
13:43:59  <AvianFlu>it might be simplest to just put node-redis in bundleDependencies
13:44:08  <AvianFlu>and just remove the optional part from its package.json
13:44:16  <AvianFlu>until we fix it more properly
13:47:14  <asherkin>logging borked still?
13:47:27  <asherkin>earlier it was showing olds logs, now it's causing JS hangs
13:47:48  <asherkin>oh whoooo, it un-hung and loaded, just had to get Chrome to ignore it
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13:52:03  <skimberk1>I was wondering, what differences would I experience between the Developer Preview and the $3 Individual plan?
13:54:01  <skimberk1>Does anybody know?
13:54:40  <AvianFlu>the developer preview will be a shared host, whereas the individual plans, you'll be on your own little vm
13:55:04  <skimberk1>Ah ok, thanks
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14:02:29  <lpin>spolu hiredis is already an optionalDependencies of node_redis
14:03:02  <lpin>as AvianFlu suggested i installed node_redis in the local enviroment
14:03:39  <lpin>removed hiredis and bundled 'redis'
14:04:02  <lpin>works well so far
14:04:27  <AvianFlu>lpin, excellent
14:04:49  <AvianFlu>yeah, last I heard, the js parser was actually better
14:04:58  <AvianFlu>I'll find out more about that today
14:06:30  <spolu>AvianFlu: ape node-redis in bundelDeps seems like a good solution
14:06:40  <spolu>AvianFlu: yep node-redis… ^
14:07:09  <spolu>lpin: awesome. I'll try that
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14:28:16  <asherkin>I think I broke jitsu trying to create a database :3
14:28:56  <AvianFlu>asherkin, make sure you're on [email protected]
14:29:09  <ruzz311>you accidentally the whole database? uh oh
14:29:09  <AvianFlu>and npm ls -g | grep nodejitsu-api and make sure its at 0.3.1
14:29:14  <AvianFlu>also
14:29:17  <AvianFlu>on an unrelated note
14:29:30  <AvianFlu>who the hell went and told everybody 'accidentally' was a verb
14:29:49  <ruzz311>haha
14:29:50  <AvianFlu></pedantry>
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14:32:57  <asherkin>AvianFlu: a version behind it seems
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14:35:33  <asherkin>AvianFlu: that fixed it, thanks
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14:57:55  <asherkin>is a redis DB created with jitsu equiv. to the redistogo free plan? another one of their plans? something complete custom?
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15:14:14  <jaha>having trouble getting jitsu to deploy an app with bson, getting this error: https://gist.github.com/3136783
15:18:11  <mmoulton>jaha, check out the gist listed in the topic, it may help. (https://gist.github.com/61d3ef615df8de263334)
15:19:32  <jaha>mmoulton: will do, thanks
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15:24:49  <greg___>not able to deploy at the moment. had same problem earlier in the week, like this: error: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error error: There was an error while attempting to deploy your application. error: error: NPM Install failed error: NPM failed to install dependencies
15:25:01  <greg___>anyone else having this problem?
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15:29:14  <cronopio>asherkin: yeah is the free plan of redistogo
15:29:56  <cronopio>greg___: the npm install command works fine at your project locally?
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15:31:56  <panzi>ok, finally my app starts again. but more than every other request is an internal server error and there are no logs (there should be at least some startup logs)
15:32:04  <panzi>the error message I get is: An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
15:32:16  <panzi>my app is: An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
15:32:24  <panzi>sorry, it is: http://greattuneplayer.jit.su/
15:32:26  <greg___>yes all fine locally
15:32:53  <mmalecki>panzi: can you try with `curl -v` and tell me what IP did you hit?
15:33:37  <asherkin>cronopio: thanks
15:34:16  <panzi>mmalecki: 165.225.130.239
15:34:46  <greg___>everything is setup as it was 2 days ago when it deployed ok, but last time had the same problem that it didn't deploy, and then did after emailing suport and using this chat for about 20 mins, everything worked?
15:35:10  <panzi>for a request that succeeded I got: 165.225.130.238 (for index.html)
15:35:26  <michaeldinerstei>i'm also getting the same error that panzi is getting
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15:36:34  <loudin>sorry, just changed my nickname, but i'm still getting the same error panzi has
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15:37:32  <mmalecki>panzi: great, thanks
15:37:36  <mmalecki>that's very helpful
15:38:25  <mmalecki>hm, looks like .239 works too
15:38:26  <mmalecki>weird
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15:39:46  <panzi>also some urls see to always fail (e.g. http://greattuneplayer.jit.su/cgi-bin/query.cgi?action=index) some always succeed (e.g. http://greattuneplayer.jit.su/) and some vary (e.g. http://greattuneplayer.jit.su/images/play.png)
15:39:52  <panzi>and now my app is gone again
15:40:10  <panzi>maybe you work on it right now?
15:40:20  <mmalecki>can you guys verify now?
15:40:24  <insin>I take it this isn't good?
15:40:26  <mmalecki>huh? cgi-bin?
15:40:26  <insin>[07/18 15:13:27 GMT+0100] ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/insin/twitter-searchite/package/node_modules/hiredis/build/Release/hiredis.node: symbol redisReaderCreate: referenced symbol not found
15:40:43  <mmalecki>panzi: yeah, I was rolling something out, should be back already
15:40:45  <insin>tried removing hiredis from package.json, but no dice
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15:42:01  <mmalecki>insin: check that gist in the title
15:42:18  <mmalecki>panzi: does it work right now?
15:43:11  <panzi>mmalecki: now I get for http://greattuneplayer.jit.su/cgi-bin/query.cgi?action=index 165.225.130.241 {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}, 165.225.130.240 An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNRESET"}, 165.225.130.239 An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNRESET"}
15:43:40  <panzi>(these are the results of 3 tries with curl)
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15:44:25  <panzi>who knows, maybe my app is crashing. but without any logs I don't know whats happening
15:44:47  <mmalecki>panzi: you're getting a crash
15:44:52  <mmalecki>when accessing that cgi-bin thing
15:44:57  <mmalecki>why are you using cgi-bin tho?
15:44:58  <mmalecki>error: ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/panzi/GreattunePlayer/package/node_modules/sqlite/build/Release/sqlite3_bindings.node: symbol mpool_open: referenced symbol not found
15:45:08  <mmalecki>also, we're working on logs
15:45:31  <panzi>ok, so loading binary modules (the sqlite bindings) still doesn't work
15:45:53  <greg___>followed the gist above, and it did sort out the deploy, thx
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15:46:40  <mmalecki>panzi: check that gist in the title
15:46:47  <mmalecki>it might work if you apply these changes
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15:49:37  <panzi>mmalecki: didn't change anything :(
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15:49:59  <Marco>Hi there
15:50:13  <panzi>or do I have to add the env to the package that will be compiled itself?
15:50:23  <Marco>i want to try Nodejitsu
15:50:43  <Marco>i create an account
15:50:51  <Marco>created
15:50:58  <Marco>and a already receive
15:51:00  <Marco>the user
15:51:24  <Marco>how do i install and use NodeJitsu ????
15:51:34  <Marco>i am very lost here
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15:54:39  <panzi>Marco: See: https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/ and http://package.json.nodejitsu.com/
15:55:20  <panzi>Marco: also currently nodejitsu has some problems (no logs, binary modules don't work), so maybe try it next week?
15:58:38  <mmalecki>Marco: what's the account name you're trying to create?
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16:02:17  <Marco>marcopnunes
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16:02:28  <Marco>i create the account
16:02:56  <Marco>then when autenticating i realized i didnt define the password
16:02:59  <Marco>so i reset
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16:03:18  <Marco>so you dont have a UI for the dashboard?
16:03:26  <rmasina>Hello
16:03:40  <rmasina>I am getting this error while i deploy
16:04:22  <mmalecki>Marco: check your email for instructions on how to set your password
16:04:29  <rmasina>https://gist.github.com/3137148
16:04:40  <rmasina>can someone tell what is wrong ?
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16:04:47  <mmalecki>rmasina: v0.8 is not yet supported, please use 0.6.x
16:04:51  <mmalecki>as your engines:node
16:04:55  <rmasina>node version is set to 6,20
16:05:23  <Marco>Malecki:: yes but... you dont have a PaaS UI manager ????
16:05:26  <mmalecki>hm, somehow we didn't deploy it yet, last one is 0.6.19
16:05:31  <mmalecki>Marco: we do, develop.jit.su
16:05:39  <mmalecki>but it's in beta and I advise against using it
16:05:40  <rmasina>ok :)
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16:05:54  <mmalecki>rmasina: please use 0.6.x, you'll get 0.6.19
16:05:59  <mmalecki>and we'll deploy 0.6.20 asap
16:06:18  <rmasina>ok trying it out '
16:06:49  <Marco>so
16:07:14  <Marco>why cant i define a password at account creation and use it there?
16:07:40  <rmasina>package.json error: can't find starting script: node app not i get this
16:07:41  <Marco>i think it's a better approach for better user experience
16:07:41  <mmalecki>Marco: because you have to confirm your account first. when you execute the command we sent you, you'll be able to set the password.
16:08:07  <Marco>so i need to install CLI first?
16:08:10  <mmalecki>yes
16:08:19  <Nexxy>POLO
16:08:33  <Marco>and everithing i do is from this CLI?
16:08:43  <Marco>or i may only use the site you send me?
16:08:50  <rmasina>Package.json start script declared but not found looks something strange
16:09:04  <mmalecki>Marco: you can use the site after you confirm your account
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16:09:49  <Marco>ok... so you are tellin me is this... You must install somthing (in this case CLI) and after you confirm your account you can remove it
16:09:54  <Marco>is this wright?
16:10:25  <mmalecki>yes, but I'd strongly advise against removing it
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16:10:41  <mmalecki>it's just more convienient to do this kind of stuff from CLI, IMO
16:11:29  <Marco>if you have a rich and user friendly user interface, i think it's better
16:11:56  <Marco>imagine that you need a CLI to send messages to facebook
16:12:10  <mmalecki>I'd use it :)
16:12:10  <Marco>it's not the best experience
16:12:18  <Marco>ok
16:12:27  <mmalecki>but yeah, it's the matter of preference
16:12:29  <Marco>i am out of arguments
16:12:31  <Marco>lol
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16:13:38  <Marco>so where do i go to install CLI
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16:13:46  <mmalecki>Marco: `npm -g install jitsu`
16:14:45  <Marco>i just execute that in the command line
16:14:47  <Marco>?????
16:14:49  <mmalecki>yes
16:14:59  <Marco>on a windows machine?
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16:15:30  <Marco>ok
16:15:37  <Marco>i reaaly dont understand
16:15:48  <Marco>i open cmd.exe
16:15:58  <Marco>and execute 'npm -g install jitsu'
16:16:00  <Marco>??????
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16:16:09  <Marco>i am really newbie here
16:16:51  <mmalecki>yes
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16:19:02  <cjm>@mmalecki An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"} appname: float
16:21:51  <mmalecki>cjm: looking into it
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16:22:42  <cjm>@mmalecki this one is actaully more important to me then nodeup :)
16:24:01  <lpin>insin to bypass hiredis (that will be fixed soon) you can install node_redis, remove hiredis and than bundle redis in your package json
16:24:17  <mmalecki>cjm: what account is that?
16:26:30  <cjm>float
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16:29:20  <mmalecki>error: ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/float/Float/package/node_modules/redis/node_modules/hiredis/build/Release/hiredis.node: symbol redisReaderCreate: referenced symbol not found
16:29:25  <mmalecki>see that gist
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16:29:29  <mmalecki>in the title
16:30:06  <lpin>mmalecki that gist doesn't work with that error
16:31:10  <lpin>but you can get rid of hiredis and use node_redis js parser
16:31:52  <lpin>which works well until the issue is solved
16:32:16  <mmalecki>oh, bundling? yeah, that should work too
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16:32:46  <lpin>i solved that way for the moment
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16:41:22  <AvianFlu>cjm, listen to lpin here, it's a linking error from optionalDeps fail
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17:02:17  <insin>Removing hiredis fixed it for now, thanks
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17:55:28  <fomatin>hey guys
17:56:02  <blakmatrix>hey fomayin
17:56:08  <blakmatrix>*fomatin
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17:57:11  <fomatin>sup blakmatrix
17:57:23  <fomatin>are you also part of the team in SF?
17:57:28  <fomatin>or is that just josh and charlie?
17:57:42  <blakmatrix>nah I hail from Seattle
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17:58:18  <blakmatrix>all by my lonesome, its a 12 hour drive to SF
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17:59:33  <fomatin>ah ok
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17:59:55  <fomatin>im trying to meet up with josh or charlie :P now that i'm in SF
17:59:57  <blakmatrix>I am a support dude if hats what you're asking haha
18:00:20  <blakmatrix>^^AvianFlu
18:01:26  <fomatin>haha nah, i've been using nodejitsu since last august asking a ton of questions and now that i'm interning in SF for the summer, I decided I'd want to meet up with them :D
18:01:42  <blakmatrix>ah cool where at?
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18:05:00  <fomatin>I'm with ClassDojo, http://classdojo.com
18:05:14  <fomatin>we actually just moved up to the city haha
18:05:21  <fomatin>from Palo Alto
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20:07:57  <panzi>so, when will loading binary modules work again? I need sqlite support (I load updates from magnatune.com as sqlite dumps). my app is about a week down now. :(
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20:17:15  <jesusabdullah>panzi: binary modules work, in general. We've never supported sqlite afaik
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20:18:47  <jesusabdullah>panzi: If you need sqlite support (and keep in mind that sqlite can't replace a real db because disk storage is ephemeral
20:18:50  <jesusabdullah>(
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20:19:06  <jesusabdullah>panzi: If you do need it, email [email protected] explaining your user case and I'll see what I can do.
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20:25:25  <panzi>jesusabdullah: it did work before last week. I just have a dependency to a git repo and it loaded and compiled the module. but since last week it does not work anymore. I did not change anything.
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20:26:04  <panzi>and I need sqlite, because I load exports from magnatune.com. I don't change them (beside from adding indices)
20:27:02  <AvianFlu>panzi, please gist your error from a recent deploy; if you don't have one, wait a few minutes and then deploy again
20:27:30  <jesusabdullah>panzi: we moved environments to joyent so that's why it would've changed. The rackspace env likely had sqlite by coincidence.
20:27:51  <jesusabdullah>panzi: Like I said, if you email [email protected] with logs and a description of what you need we'll work with you
20:28:40  <panzi>AvianFlu: there is no log. for some reason logs seem no longer to work (since today or maybe yesterday)
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20:29:21  <AvianFlu>panzi, I refer to your terminal output
20:30:01  <panzi>AvianFlu: what terminal output? jitsu start does not produce an error
20:30:18  <AvianFlu>I'm trying to get details of your failure
20:30:23  <AvianFlu>if it's a failure, something isn't working
20:30:25  <AvianFlu>what is it
20:31:01  <AvianFlu>if the deploy succeeds, what is the specific failure that you see?
20:31:20  <panzi>I don't know. there are no logs anymore! when you request http://greattuneplayer.jit.su/cgi-bin/query.cgi?action=index all I get is An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNRESET"}
20:32:13  <AvianFlu>panzi, loggly changed their plans and started aggressively dropping data on us, we're working it out with them
20:32:27  <AvianFlu>now that you've told me what you're seeing, I can take a look
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20:35:26  <AvianFlu>okay, it's a linker error, because we don't have libsqlite
20:35:39  <AvianFlu>your app starts, then crashes faster than it can respond to the requests it accepts
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20:38:11  <panzi>since last week it does no longer work. when I asked last week when this will be fixed I was told next week (=this week). is this true? or shall I look into other options?
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20:45:25  <AvianFlu>panzi, the simplest way to make it work would be to statically link libsqlite into the addon, and bundle it
20:45:59  <AvianFlu>do you know how to do something like that? If not, we can either roll it out, or I can make a statically linked version, in a day or two
20:47:04  <panzi>AvianFlu: no I don't know that. I guess I could find out, but I also guess that would be something for an FAQ (*wink*)
20:47:47  <AvianFlu>panzi, it's something addon authors should be doing
20:48:06  <AvianFlu>and it's going to be the encouraged way to make addons going forward
20:48:21  <AvianFlu>this time, we need to install the lib, or someone needs to patch the addon
20:48:24  <AvianFlu>and it will be a non-issue
20:48:59  <panzi>AvianFlu: you say addon, do you mean node (npm) module?
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20:49:45  <AvianFlu>panzi, your sqlite module
20:49:48  <AvianFlu>it has a C++ dependency
20:49:54  <AvianFlu>that's what I'm referring to
20:50:02  <AvianFlu>people who bind C/C++ libraries to node
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20:50:09  <AvianFlu>and link dynamically, expecting it to be on the system
20:50:21  <AvianFlu>should be linking statically, and bundling a specific version of the lib
20:50:23  <AvianFlu>for general sanity
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20:55:08  * AvianFlutopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: All systems go. If you have trouble with a compiled dependency, contact support.
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21:08:32  <lemonad>My app suddenly went "An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}" a couple of hours ago. What's causing that? Should I just try to redeploy?
21:10:19  <AvianFlu>lemonad, did it start happening consistently, or just every few requests
21:10:32  <AvianFlu>lemonad, do you have compiled dependencies at all?
21:10:35  <asherkin>I just noticed mine doing it as well
21:10:37  <AvianFlu>like redis, maybe?
21:10:37  <lemonad>No, it seems to be permanent.
21:10:49  <asherkin>trying to restart it just stuck it in an offline state
21:11:03  <AvianFlu>just run start
21:11:10  <AvianFlu>restart will fail silently
21:11:17  <lemonad>AvianFlu Yes, I have Redis as a compiled dependency (but the app was working fine and I didn't do anything when it stopped working)
21:11:29  <AvianFlu>lemonad, what's the app name
21:11:35  <lemonad>AvianFlu hawfin.ch
21:12:25  <asherkin>ok, the not-working-on-restart is probably my fault :P
21:13:09  <asherkin>ok, yeah, a restart (that actually worked), fixed the ECONNREFUSED
21:13:11  <AvianFlu>lemonad, it's the hiredis linker error
21:13:26  <AvianFlu>if you bundle it, and make it use the js parser, it'll work
21:13:35  <AvianFlu>but the linker error is messing up the optionalDependencies logic
21:15:52  <AvianFlu>or, if you know stuff about compiling things, for the project and statically link and bundle hiredis
21:15:57  <AvianFlu>s/for/fork/
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21:17:17  <lemonad>AvianFlu How come it was working and then just stopped working? I thought the linking would be done when the app was deployed?
21:17:45  <AvianFlu>lemonad, with dynamic linking, the module will still compile
21:17:52  <AvianFlu>there will just be undefined symbols at runtime
21:17:59  <AvianFlu>because a dynamically linked library is missing
21:19:34  <lemonad>AvianFlu I'm slowly grasping things here, I'll get there eventually ;) But I was using the app and it worked fine? Shouldn't that error come up on the first request?
21:21:33  <AvianFlu>depends - would your first request always cause a read from redis?
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21:22:56  <lemonad>AvianFlu Definitely. The app has been working for several days now.
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21:23:19  <AvianFlu>lemonad, inconsistent patch, then. thank you for reporting it.
21:23:29  <panzi>AvianFlu: hmm, I'm currently looking at the sqlite bindings. It looks like it does compile the whole sqlite library. it includes a sqlite3.c file that is just all sqlite source files merged into one
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21:23:39  <panzi>what is not linked statically?
21:24:04  <AvianFlu>panzi, does it compile into an .o or an .so locally
21:24:36  <lemonad>AvianFlu Ah, that seems more reasonable. Do you still think I should bundle hires and make it use the js parser?
21:24:39  <AvianFlu>panzi, it's this:
21:24:40  <AvianFlu>error: ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/panzi/GreattunePlayer/package/node_modules/sqlite/build/Release/sqlite3_bindings.node: symbol mpool_open: referenced symbol not found
21:25:05  <AvianFlu>lemonad, last I heard, the js parser for that was better anyway
21:25:08  <AvianFlu>so I'd just say bundle it
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21:25:12  <AvianFlu>and remove hiredis
21:25:23  <lemonad>AvianFlu Thanks for the tip, I'll try that!
21:25:34  <AvianFlu>we'll make this stop requiring thought sometime this week, as soon as we decide the best way to do it
21:25:53  <panzi>mpool_open, I don't think thats part of sqlite. lets see where that comes from
21:26:12  <AvianFlu>yeah, that's a good point you make
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21:28:55  <panzi>hm, mpool is also included and compiled
21:29:21  <panzi>but maybe not staticaly linked or copied into the release dir
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21:34:04  <AvianFlu>panzi, we've actually got a patch being rolled out to fix this right now
21:34:11  <AvianFlu>so, it'll go away in a little while
21:34:17  <AvianFlu>dynamic linker error
21:34:19  <AvianFlu>always fun
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21:43:34  <catshirt>hi
21:44:00  <catshirt><< proud nodejitsu deskmate
21:44:01  <ojna>hi
21:44:11  <jesusabdullah>\o
21:44:47  <blakmatrix_>hi
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21:59:02  <spolu>Hi guys, I've just posted "DaTtSs" on hacker news, Since it's a "statsd+graphite" for PaaS, that'd be awesome if you could give it a little help :) would love to see a bunch nodejitsu project using it: http://news.ycombinator.com/newest
22:03:11  <jesusabdullah>Right on
22:05:07  <blakmatrix_>cool
22:05:25  <ojna>looks nice
22:05:44  <insin>Node.js people detected, Hacker News modbot deployed
22:06:28  <Nexxy>^
22:07:20  <AvianFlu>it's really "non-ycombinator project detected", be fair
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22:09:51  <zeus>Hey, I am getting "An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}" on zeus.jit.su
22:10:31  * Destosquit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
22:10:39  <zeus>Everything was working yesterday and earlier this morning, but now nothing
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22:11:30  <blakmatrix_>Hi zeus
22:11:40  <zeus>Also, jitsu databases list is giving me a javascript syntax error
22:12:06  <zeus>sorry, TYPE error*
22:12:38  <blakmatrix_>zeus can you gist me what you are seeing
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22:13:35  <zeus>https://gist.github.com/3139251
22:15:14  <jesusabdullah>zeus: you need to install the latest version of jitsu
22:15:23  <jesusabdullah>zeus: there was a change to the upstream api
22:15:33  <zeus>okay, and what about the app error?
22:15:41  <jesusabdullah>what's your username/appname combo?
22:15:42  <zeus>i will update and let you know
22:15:43  <jesusabdullah>I'll look
22:15:49  <zeus>distracteddev/soapbox
22:16:31  <zeus>is there a command to update jitsu? or npm uninstall and then install?
22:16:32  <jesusabdullah>according to the db it's up
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22:16:51  <jesusabdullah>zeus: npm install jitsu -g (but you may want to run 'npm cache clean' first)
22:17:27  <ojna>is 0.9.5 the latest?
22:17:47  <jesusabdullah>Sounds right ojna---it's new enough that it should do the jitsu databases properly
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22:18:11  <jesusabdullah>ojna: It's possible for the older api client to get cached with it though---like, I've seen that happen before
22:18:22  <zeus>jitsu databases list works for me now
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22:18:58  <jesusabdullah>zeus: You're using redis? This looks like the linker error we've been seeing.
22:19:12  <zeus>jesusabdullah: yesir
22:19:32  <jesusabdullah>zeus: Basically, you need to bundle the redis client using bundledDependencies (see http://package.json.jit.su) and then remove "hiredis" from its optionalDependencies
22:19:59  <jesusabdullah>zeus: This takes hiredis out of the equation so it's guaranteed to work if you set it up properly
22:20:52  <spolu>blakmatrix, ojna: thanks hope you up voted :)
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22:20:59  <spolu>AvianFlu: non-ycombinator project ?
22:21:20  <zeus>jesusabdullah: I use redis, not hiredis
22:21:25  <zeus>same thing?
22:21:28  <jesusabdullah>zeus: yes, but redis uses hiredis
22:21:31  <zeus>Ahh okay
22:21:33  <jesusabdullah>zeus: cd node_modules/redis
22:21:37  <jesusabdullah>zeus: cat package.json
22:21:41  <jesusabdullah>zeus: You'll see it in there
22:22:10  <zeus>So remove it from my redis module's package.json and enter into my top level bundle deps?
22:22:15  <jesusabdullah>actually, zeus can you do me a favor
22:22:19  <jesusabdullah>before you try to hack this up
22:22:20  <zeus>Yeah sure
22:22:23  <jesusabdullah>deploy again?
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22:22:43  <zeus>i just did that like 2 minutes ago, should I try again?
22:22:47  <jesusabdullah>yes
22:22:55  <AvianFlu>spolu, I'm accusing hacker news of pro-YC censorship
22:22:57  <jesusabdullah>like, I got relevant news like 10 seconds ago
22:23:03  <zeus>Sure
22:23:07  <zeus>pushing now
22:23:29  <AvianFlu>they were saying anti-node, so I said no, their bias is anti-non-yc
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22:24:12  <jesusabdullah>so, wikileaks is taking credit card donations for a limited time.
22:24:14  <spolu>AvianFlu: yep I kind of agree with you… still worthy fortunately or unfortunately
22:24:22  <jesusabdullah>considering giving them some
22:24:29  <jesusabdullah>I wish they took bitcoins
22:24:43  <jesusabdullah>ohey they do
22:25:05  <zeus>jesusabdullah: Still the same error after deploy :(
22:25:27  <zeus>So you suggest removing it from my redis' modules deps, and then adding it as a bundleDep in my root package.json?
22:25:32  <jesusabdullah>Yes
22:25:45  <jesusabdullah>wait, let's clarify
22:25:53  <jesusabdullah>remove hiredis from redis's optional dependencies
22:26:05  <jesusabdullah>move redis from your app's dependencies to its bundledDependencies
22:26:11  <jesusabdullah>make sure it runs locally
22:26:13  <jesusabdullah>then deploy
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22:26:56  <zeus>jesusabdullah: I'm also using resourceful-redis and that module has both hiredis and redis as a dependency, do I need to touch those?
22:27:09  <jesusabdullah>zeus: yes indeed.
22:27:19  <jesusabdullah>good eye.
22:27:39  <zeus>so in that case, for the resourceful-redis, I remove both hiredis and redis correct?
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22:28:24  <jesusabdullah>I believe that will work
22:28:41  <AvianFlu>panzi, can you try a deploy now if you're still around?
22:30:07  <panzi>I just deployed again and I still get the same error
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22:31:53  <panzi>AvianFlu: deployed 2 times, still does not work
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22:33:48  <AvianFlu>panzi, thanks, checking
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22:38:52  <zeus>jesusabdullah: Should I remove resourceful-redis from my deps and add it to my bundleDeps?
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22:45:16  <zeus>jesusabdullah: ??
22:45:29  <jonbaer>anyone in NYC for the node.js meet up from nodejitsu?
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22:49:29  <jesusabdullah>zeus: yes
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22:55:06  <zeus>jesusabdullah: Poop. https://gist.github.com/3139510 error within jitsu while deploying
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22:58:03  <Ivshti>Hello, I seem to be having problems with a compiled dependancy
22:58:06  <Ivshti>ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/ivogeorgiev/expressME-API/package/node_modules/redis/node_modules/hiredis/build/Release/hiredis.node: symbol redisReaderCreate
22:58:09  <jesusabdullah>zeus: the format for bundledDependencies is different
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22:58:43  <jesusabdullah>Ivshti: The workaround is to move redis to a bundledDependency and remove hiredis from its optionalDependencies
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22:58:50  <jesusabdullah>zeus: http://package.json.jit.su
22:58:56  <jesusabdullah>zeus: You want a list, not a hash
22:59:13  <jesusabdullah>zeus: "bundledDependencies": [ "redis", "resourceful-redis" ]
22:59:13  <zeus>aww poop. My bad
22:59:15  <jesusabdullah>zeus: like that
22:59:17  <jesusabdullah>all good
22:59:42  <zeus>jesusabdullah: What is all of these redis issues caused by btw? im curious
23:00:00  <zeus>and is this bundle trick a work-around or something we will have to always do going forward with Nodejitsu?
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23:00:17  <jesusabdullah>zeus: linker errors. Basically, hiredis compiles and looks good, but then when it tries to actually do stuff it can't find the .so's
23:00:28  <jesusabdullah>zeus: it should be fixed pretty soon, this is a workaround
23:00:34  <zeus>ahh okay, thanks :)
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23:01:04  <jesusabdullah>Ivshti: You and zeus are dealing with the same issue btw
23:01:23  <Ivshti>yeah, I figured
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23:01:39  <Ivshti>jitsu seems to crash though
23:01:52  <Ivshti> "stack": [
23:01:52  <Ivshti> "TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'indexOf'",
23:01:52  <Ivshti> " at Packer.applyIgnores (/usr/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/npm/node_modules/fstream-npm/fstream-npm.js:142:33)",
23:01:52  <Ivshti> " at Packer.<anonymous> (/usr/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/npm/node_modules/fstream-npm/node_modules/fstream-ignore/ignore.js:181:17)",
23:01:53  <Ivshti> ..
23:02:37  <Ivshti>bundledDependencies expects an array, my bad
23:02:49  <Ivshti>I gave it an object
23:03:05  <AvianFlu>that right there is an fstream-npm bug
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23:03:26  <zeus>lol same problem and same mistake made :p
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23:05:15  <Ivshti>guys, just a side question:
23:05:34  <jesusabdullah>Ivshti: Did you put the bundledDependencies in an array?
23:05:34  <Ivshti>are there any plans to provide mongodb running on the same machine (or at least network) as the drone itself
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23:05:51  <jesusabdullah>same network perhaps
23:06:00  <jesusabdullah>a number of mongo providers also use joyent
23:06:11  <Ivshti>jesusabdullah: yeah, I fixed the array thing
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23:06:23  <jesusabdullah>same crash though?
23:06:25  <Ivshti>because querying MongoHQ is terribly slow
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23:06:33  <mmalecki>same machine might happen too, but it's a far future
23:06:36  <Ivshti>no, it's ok now
23:06:42  <jesusabdullah>oh, okay cool
23:06:57  <Ivshti>in fact, everything is working
23:07:05  <jesusabdullah>great!
23:07:32  <Ivshti>anyway, there is like 500ms network latency with mongohq
23:07:40  <jesusabdullah>bundling deps like this feels a little like, rerouting phaser energy through the auxillary power couplers in order to maintain shields
23:07:43  <jesusabdullah>y'know?
23:07:55  <Ivshti>:D
23:08:05  <Ivshti>get it
23:08:37  <zeus>jesusabdullah: bundleDeps workaround fixed it for me as well
23:08:41  <zeus>Thanks :)
23:08:48  <zeus>jesusabdullah++
23:08:51  <kohai>jesusabdullah has 110 keys to various cities
23:08:52  <jesusabdullah>you mean
23:08:55  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu++
23:08:59  <kohai>AvianFlu has 134 internet points
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23:09:16  <jesusabdullah>but yes, you're welcome
23:09:18  <jesusabdullah>to both of you
23:09:20  * threelinksjoined
23:09:28  <jesusabdullah>enjoy your fully operational phaser banks
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23:10:45  <Ivshti>what's the deal with the username incrementation
23:10:47  <Ivshti>jesusabdullah++
23:10:50  <kohai>jesusabdullah has 111 keys to various cities
23:10:54  <Ivshti>interesting...
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23:12:24  <blakmatrix_>Ivshti: its like props or whtever
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23:37:29  <mmalecki>DTrejo: hey, you're hosting npmbro on nodejitsu?
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23:37:47  <mmalecki>also, looks like there's some deploy running :D
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23:40:35  <jesusabdullah>mmalecki: Yeah, I helped him get it running <_<
23:40:53  <mmalecki>jesusabdullah: ++ cool!
23:40:54  <kohai>jesusabdullah has 112 keys to various cities
23:41:07  <jesusabdullah>okay, buying a bunch of beef jerky from the ghettomart brb
23:41:14  <mmalecki>lulz
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