00:02:14  <RORgasm>blakmatrix: any idea what's going on?
00:02:40  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: checking it out
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00:05:07  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: update your mongoose version
00:05:46  <RORgasm>oh
00:05:50  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/commit/e043042c2b4d03ac22828877806f4c5469aefe9e this change is what is making things hang
00:05:51  <RORgasm>to the latest one i suppose?
00:08:30  <RORgasm>i changed mongoose version in package.json to 2.7.x
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00:08:45  <RORgasm>ran jitsu deploy again to no avail
00:08:48  <blakmatrix>does it deploy?
00:08:49  <RORgasm>still same problem
00:09:52  <blakmatrix>It doesnt seemed to have updated on my side
00:10:06  <blakmatrix>aare you deploying it the jitsu tool?
00:10:48  <RORgasm>i'm runnin jitsu deploy on my side
00:10:54  <RORgasm>oh crap
00:11:01  <RORgasm>do i have to commit my changes to my git repo
00:11:02  <RORgasm>?
00:11:11  <blakmatrix>shouldnt have too
00:11:22  <RORgasm>let me run jitsu deploy again
00:12:32  <RORgasm>yeah
00:12:36  <RORgasm>nothing happened
00:12:45  <RORgasm>should i update the jitsu tool?
00:12:52  <blakmatrix>could help
00:12:56  <blakmatrix>whats it at now
00:13:02  <RORgasm>how do i update the jitsu tool?
00:13:15  <RORgasm>i'm runnin 0.8.5 right now
00:13:19  <blakmatrix>`npm i jitsu -g`
00:13:33  <blakmatrix>9.5 is the latest
00:13:42  <RORgasm>k
00:13:44  <blakmatrix>yeah that might help, might give us a better error message too
00:13:45  <RORgasm>doing it right now
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00:14:08  <RORgasm>upgraded
00:14:11  <RORgasm>running deploy again
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00:15:28  <RORgasm>blakmatrix: yeah getting stacktrace now https://gist.github.com/8551ebfbed3da56c3604
00:16:12  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: its trying to install 2.4.10 mongoose
00:16:17  <RORgasm>k
00:16:26  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: need to upgrad to 2.5x or newer
00:16:34  <RORgasm>oh crap
00:16:40  <RORgasm>i didn't save my package.josn when i updated it :)
00:16:46  <blakmatrix>heh :)
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00:17:41  <RORgasm>ok
00:17:44  <RORgasm>differente error now
00:17:45  <RORgasm>hmm
00:17:48  <RORgasm>it can't find request
00:17:55  <blakmatrix>gist
00:18:24  <RORgasm>oh no
00:18:36  <RORgasm>it can't find coloured-log
00:18:43  <RORgasm>which is an npm package
00:19:03  <RORgasm>blakmatrix: https://gist.github.com/f48cddb6b470ba42e1d0
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00:24:51  <RORgasm>blakmatrix: any ideas?
00:25:04  <RORgasm>i'm able to install that package locally and i definitely had it runnign before on jitsu
00:25:04  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: try it with this in your package.json https://gist.github.com/3221966
00:25:26  <blakmatrix>i was able to deploy with the quotes around the module name
00:25:37  <blakmatrix>like proper json
00:26:09  <AvianFlu>RORgasm, you're deploying to SmartOS nowadays
00:26:12  <AvianFlu>instead of ubuntu
00:26:17  <AvianFlu>that's part of what's going on
00:26:27  <RORgasm>ah i see
00:26:38  <RORgasm>AvianFlu: btw how's it going man :)
00:26:44  <AvianFlu>SUP DUDE LOLZ
00:26:53  <AvianFlu>I only see you at conferences, and then sometimes when stuff breaks :)
00:27:24  <RORgasm>lol
00:27:26  <RORgasm>yeah
00:27:32  <RORgasm>i barely saw you at nodeconf :)
00:27:39  <RORgasm>i've been crazy busy lately
00:27:49  <RORgasm>the past couple of months been working on a destop app
00:27:50  <RORgasm>for mac
00:27:54  <RORgasm>that's right...desktop :)
00:27:57  <RORgasm>its a Gist client
00:28:05  <RORgasm>but yeah
00:28:10  <RORgasm>and Ramadan just started
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00:28:22  <RORgasm>AvianFlu: are u visiting nyc anytime soon?
00:28:47  <AvianFlu>funny you should ask, actually
00:28:51  <blakmatrix>BRB I NEED to get some food or i'll pass out
00:28:52  <AvianFlu>I fly there at 7am :)
00:29:06  <AvianFlu>I won't be around the city for a week or so, though, going fishing first
00:29:45  <RORgasm>ah gottya
00:29:50  <RORgasm>yeah let me know man
00:30:15  <RORgasm>AvianFlu: i run one of the local ruby meetups...might invite you..its a good crowd :), roundtable discussion ...keep it small usually
00:30:20  <AvianFlu>word
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00:30:25  <RORgasm>AvianFlu: but yeah some of my friends run the node meetup in town
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00:31:57  <RORgasm>so last i heard marak is in india ?
00:32:23  <AvianFlu>not yet
00:32:30  <AvianFlu>still in oakland till the fall
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00:38:46  <RORgasm>apparently smartos doesn't like the coloured-log npm package
00:39:02  <RORgasm>i'll comment it out for now i suppose
00:39:27  <AvianFlu>npm lets you put a 'platform' field, or something like that
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00:39:33  <AvianFlu>and a bunch of people don't have sunos listed
00:39:41  <AvianFlu>which I don't really blame them for, except it's a pain in the ass
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00:40:09  <RORgasm>sunos is the platform?
00:40:38  <AvianFlu>as far as what process.platform is gonna tell you, yes
00:41:06  <RORgasm>i c
00:41:08  <AvianFlu>smartOS is a derivative of sunOS, without all that pesky oracle
00:41:22  <AvianFlu>after oracle bought sun, they tried to de-open-source opensolaris
00:41:26  <AvianFlu>so it got forked a few times
00:41:28  <AvianFlu>and here we are
00:41:29  <RORgasm>do u know of a decent logger that works on sunos ?
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00:41:37  <AvianFlu>winston hasn't given us any troubles
00:41:44  <RORgasm>winston
00:41:44  <RORgasm>hmm
00:41:46  <AvianFlu>but I also don't know exactly why yours isn't working
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00:51:30  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: got it working?
00:51:35  <RORgasm>no
00:51:42  <RORgasm>i removed coloured-log
00:51:48  <RORgasm>and replaced it with winston
00:51:59  <blakmatrix>I got it to work in one of my packages by removing the dev dependincie lines
00:52:01  <RORgasm>AvianFlu mentioned you guys have dpeloyed that to smart os machines before
00:52:14  <RORgasm>oh crap
00:52:18  <RORgasm>now i see the problem
00:52:37  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: yeah flatiron apps use winston
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00:52:54  <AvianFlu>our whole stack logs with winston :)
00:52:58  <RORgasm>i had coloured-log in dev dependencies but not in regular depndencies
00:53:11  <RORgasm>yeah i replaced it with inwston
00:53:11  <blakmatrix>:)
00:53:20  <RORgasm>still getting same problem with winston coz i don't have it in dependeices
00:53:24  <RORgasm>d'ough :)
00:53:52  <blakmatrix>haha yeah we don't install dev dependencies because thats like dev stuff :)
00:53:54  <RORgasm>one minute
00:53:58  <blakmatrix>which you do locally :)
00:54:00  <RORgasm>:)
00:54:11  <RORgasm>its been a crazy couple of weeks
00:54:14  <RORgasm>Ramadan started
00:54:24  <RORgasm>i just broke my fast for today half an hour or so agao
00:54:27  <RORgasm>:)
00:54:32  <blakmatrix>what are you doing for it
00:54:33  <RORgasm>that's my excuse and i'm sticking with it
00:54:53  <RORgasm>Ramadan? its a muslim holiday/tradiiton thing
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00:55:03  <RORgasm>you fast from sunrise to sunset for a month
00:55:06  <RORgasm>no food or water
00:55:07  <RORgasm>:)
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00:55:13  <RORgasm>and the days this year are LONG!!!!
00:55:13  <RORgasm>:)
00:55:16  <blakmatrix>ah sorry I dont know much about traditions
00:55:28  <blakmatrix>so yo ucan eat after the sun goes dowm ?
00:55:35  <RORgasm>yup
00:55:57  <blakmatrix>I was like OMG you need water to live lol
00:56:01  <RORgasm>lol
00:56:02  <RORgasm>lol
00:56:04  <RORgasm>yeah
00:56:10  <RORgasm>its not that bad though
00:56:13  <RORgasm>i grew up doing it
00:56:21  <RORgasm>but the best was when i was in high school
00:56:25  <RORgasm>i went to high school in maine
00:56:32  <RORgasm>and ramadan came around December then
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00:56:41  <RORgasm>the days were so short :)
00:56:46  <RORgasm>4:30 i was breaking my fast
00:56:55  <RORgasm>btw deploy worked :)
00:57:04  <blakmatrix>gratz, to both
00:57:27  <RORgasm>lol
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00:59:46  <luckysmack>i have a question about flatiron.
01:00:14  <RORgasm>is there a way to clear logs?
01:01:34  <luckysmack>what is the big or main selling point of it compared to other frameworks? I want to build an app with heavy use of a rest based api to determine what is run on the app. but i cant determine what framework would work best
01:01:38  <blakmatrix>RORgasm: I dont think so
01:01:46  <RORgasm>is there a way to tail logs?
01:01:48  <luckysmack>they all seem to have good points over others.
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01:03:30  <hallijo>Hi, I'm trying to deploy a socket.io server and I get "An error has occurred: {"bytesParsed":0,"code":"HPE_INVALID_CONSTANT"}" any ideas ?
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01:04:41  <AvianFlu>hallijo, turn off the flash fallback
01:04:51  <hallijo>I read in some thread that might have something todo with flash fallback
01:05:03  <hallijo>how do i do that ?
01:05:14  <AvianFlu>it's a socket.io option at some point
01:05:22  <AvianFlu>jesusabdullah, you around? what's the config for that?
01:05:29  <RORgasm>is there anyway to tail logs ?
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01:05:56  <AvianFlu>`jitsu logs`
01:06:54  <RORgasm>yeah but will it tail ?
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01:07:22  <blakmatrix_>RORgasm: no tailling yet
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01:08:11  <RORgasm>i can't tell if an api request is hitting my app or not
01:08:14  <RORgasm>logs look wonky
01:08:15  <RORgasm>hmm
01:08:34  <blakmatrix_>RORgasm: jitsu logs is about as good as your gonna get withough trying some curl kung foo
01:09:06  <blakmatrix_>theoretically at least
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01:10:09  <AvianFlu>we use loggly for logging
01:10:14  <AvianFlu>there's a somewhat long round trip involved
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01:11:14  <RORgasm>i c
01:11:22  <RORgasm>any chance of getting tailable logs ?
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01:11:26  <RORgasm>anytime soon?
01:11:48  <AvianFlu>a few weeks, probably
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01:11:54  <RORgasm>awesome
01:11:58  <AvianFlu>we've got a bunch of other things going out first
01:12:14  <AvianFlu>like node 0.8 support tomorrow night
01:12:25  <blakmatrix_>luckysmack: I dont have much advice for you, I've used express and flatiron, and if you want a robust app i'd suggest flatiron
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01:15:16  <luckysmack>what to you was the big benefit of using flatiron?
01:17:37  <AvianFlu>modularity
01:18:03  <blakmatrix_>luckysmack: well i was most impressed with its command line app features haha, but as far as a web framework how easy it is to incorperate useful modules
01:19:17  <luckysmack>ok. from what i can tell, there isnt any mvc or other structuring to it at all, and you can structure it however you want? or am I wrong on that. that its mostly a compilation of libraries that all work well together.
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01:22:19  <AvianFlu>luckysmack, sounds about right
01:23:16  <hallijo>AvianFlu, thx got it working
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01:25:12  <AvianFlu>hallijo, ++
01:25:13  <kohai>hallijo has 1 beer
01:26:04  <luckysmack>ok. i think it could prove interesting, most of my experience is using some kind of mvc framework. im coming from php having used various frameworks
01:27:44  <Raynos>forever seems to have a global list
01:27:49  <Raynos>even when I install forever locally
01:27:53  <Raynos>and set -p to a local folder
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01:37:00  <AvianFlu>Raynos, when you list forever processes, it enumerates all the locally available servers
01:37:19  <Raynos>I want a way to run multiple forevers locally on the same server
01:37:33  <Raynos>so that forever stopall only stops servers started by a local forever binary
01:37:53  <Raynos>so /foo has a local forever install and /bar has a local forever install. And they are completely independant
01:38:26  <AvianFlu>is the config path you're setting absolute?
01:38:36  <AvianFlu>forever has an irritating tendency to disregard non-absolute config paths
01:38:39  <Raynos>whats the config path?
01:38:53  <AvianFlu>look in ~/.forever for a config file
01:38:55  <AvianFlu>see where the root i
01:38:56  <AvianFlu>s
01:38:58  <Raynos>the -p option?
01:39:02  <AvianFlu>yeah
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01:40:01  <Raynos>ok ill try that
01:40:12  <Raynos>do I have to pass -p for everything? >_<
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01:41:36  <AvianFlu>Raynos, we'll definitely be able to patch things to support what you're doing better
01:41:44  <AvianFlu>I'm just saying that you might be able to get it working in the meantime
01:41:47  <Raynos>ill try to make it work first
01:42:11  <Raynos>I can use the CWD shortcut in make to avoid hard coding paths :)
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01:45:56  <Raynos>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/58721c76721ef9c36a7b
01:46:04  <Raynos>is it my or your responsibility to make sure that log file exists
01:47:03  <AvianFlu>I would have thought ours; try touching it yourself
01:47:51  <AvianFlu>Raynos, you're wandering the forests of Edge-Case-ylvania, this is likely going to end in a github issue and get addressed by a patch
01:48:08  <AvianFlu>not that what you're trying to do isn't reasonable - it's just not well supported right now
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01:51:31  <Raynos>i know
01:51:45  <Raynos>im curious whether it's reasonable or not. If its reasonable its a PR. If It's unreasonable then I touch it
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01:53:18  <Raynos>its easy to solve with a mkdirp(dirname(options.logFile))
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01:55:10  <Raynos>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/e53f44169afef2605ed9
01:55:12  <Raynos>still global
01:55:35  <AvianFlu>Raynos, I think it's fairly reasonable
01:55:43  <AvianFlu>there's no other way to say "kill this group only"
01:55:45  <Raynos>how do I make it not global
01:55:56  <AvianFlu>you'd have to adjust some of the pathing logic
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01:56:00  <AvianFlu>check out lib/forever.js
01:56:04  <AvianFlu>if you'd like to take a look
01:56:10  <Raynos>im looking
01:56:17  <AvianFlu>I can poke at it on the plane tomorrow, if I get some other stuff done first
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01:57:11  <Raynos>`forever.root = path.join(process.env.HOME || '/root', '.forever');`
01:57:30  <Raynos>its hard coded and can only be bullied with HOME env variable
01:57:38  <AvianFlu>yep
01:57:44  <AvianFlu>could definitely be better
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01:57:59  <AvianFlu>I've been meaning to do something about that since about forever 0.8 :(
01:58:06  <AvianFlu>limited time for such things, though
01:58:28  <Raynos>so I set the HOME var
01:58:30  <Raynos>and now its local o/
01:58:34  <Raynos>problem solved!
01:58:37  <AvianFlu>there you go
01:58:38  <AvianFlu>nice
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01:58:53  <AvianFlu>Raynos, if you're on node 0.8, you can also look at forever-monitor and try to do it programmatically
01:58:59  <AvianFlu>we pulled out the lib part of it, so to speak
01:59:02  <Raynos>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/53d13b7b52bf2677d1ab
01:59:15  <Raynos>yeah forever-monitor is a pain because it is >= 0.8.1 -.-
01:59:32  <AvianFlu>should be >0.7.11
01:59:43  <AvianFlu>but also, y u no update!?
02:00:12  <Raynos>I am
02:00:19  <Raynos>the issue is that forever v0.10.1 was never published
02:00:38  <Raynos>its just that updating my production server to a newer version is something that requires making sure I dont mess it up
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02:15:26  <gblock>anoemi: tell Charlie Glenn said "look an MS pull request" https://github.com/einaros/ws/pull/105
02:15:39  <gblock>anoemi: and nihao from shanghai!
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02:16:42  <anoemi>gblock: lolz nicely done :)
02:17:06  <anoemi>gblock: how's china?
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02:20:11  <gblock>anoemi: fantastic
02:20:21  <gblock>anoemi: working on a node.js / js event here
02:20:36  <gblock>Charlie is hopefully going to be there
02:20:44  <anoemi>shanghai.js?
02:20:51  * shamajoined
02:20:53  <gblock>anoemi: i'm over the brutal heat now
02:21:02  <gblock>anoemi: and we're learning mandarin…which is not easy
02:21:08  <gblock>anoemi: but I really love Shanghai
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02:22:13  <anoemi>gblock: awesome! you convinced MS to send you over for work?
02:23:01  <gblock>anoemi: we have a program that enabled me to go for 3 months
02:23:15  <gblock>anoemi: but there' s a potential that I may come back for a while
02:23:20  <gblock>anoemi: as in years
02:23:30  <anoemi>gblock: whoa!
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02:23:34  <gblock>anoemi: I have to decide….
02:25:17  <gblock>anoemi: how are things for you?
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02:32:00  <anoemi>gblock: excellent
02:32:13  <anoemi>gblock: summer in NY is always a good thing
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04:03:15  <Raynos>> error: script /home/raynos/Documents/fleet/manual-hub does not exist.
04:03:15  <Nexxy>anoemi, did you hear the great news?
04:03:21  <Raynos>forever does not handle -c make cleanly at all
04:03:39  <Raynos>maybe I should stop using forever as my generic non-node monitoring tool
04:03:52  <Nexxy>upstart/monit?
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04:05:17  <Raynos>maybe that would be better
04:05:25  <Raynos>which one works on sunos :D
04:05:55  <Raynos>SMF apparently
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04:07:25  <Raynos>thats why I like using a node based monitor
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04:09:31  <Raynos>What are the alternatives to forever?
04:13:39  <Nexxy>child_process?
04:13:42  <Nexxy>.spawn?
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04:26:03  <AvianFlu>Raynos, what happens when you try to -c make? and what node and forever versions are you on?
04:26:19  <Raynos>node v0.8.4
04:26:22  <Raynos>forever v0.10.0
04:26:28  <Raynos>-c make <MAKE_TARGET> fails
04:26:39  <Raynos>because it expects the file parameter to be a file
04:26:53  <Raynos>so I cant run `$ make build` because there is no build file on the fs
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04:27:40  <AvianFlu>oh, yeah, because -c is for specifying an interpreter
04:27:51  <Raynos>yes instead of an arbitary command
04:27:53  <AvianFlu>that kind of thing isn't supported well
04:27:58  <Raynos>its meant for -c coffee <trollface/>
04:28:04  <AvianFlu>or -c perl
04:28:06  <Raynos>or -c numberscript
04:28:07  <AvianFlu>or anything else
04:31:14  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: -c sh make build ?
04:31:34  <Raynos>i still need a fake file
04:31:34  <jesusabdullah>wait, no
04:31:36  <jesusabdullah>Yeah
04:31:37  <Raynos>or forever bails
04:31:40  <jesusabdullah>you still need a shim
04:32:21  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: It would be fantastic if you could just pass through arbitrary arguments to the interpreter instead of insisting on a file
04:32:31  <jesusabdullah>I mean, imo
04:32:37  <AvianFlu>jesusabdullah, so make a pull request
04:33:32  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: ^^
04:34:29  <Raynos>yeah
04:34:35  <Raynos>hand wave at some points in the code
04:34:35  <jesusabdullah>I kid, I kid
04:34:37  <Raynos>and ill try it
04:34:54  <jesusabdullah>If you want to, I mean, I wasn't actually trying to dump it on you
04:36:22  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: Is the relevant code in forever or forever-monitor now? Do you know?
04:36:23  <Raynos>I can fix shit
04:36:28  <Raynos>it means I can do stuff moar quick
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04:36:41  <AvianFlu>forever-monitor, ultimately
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04:37:07  <jesusabdullah>oh hey, check this out
04:37:20  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever-monitor#spawning-a-non-node-process
04:37:32  <jesusabdullah>So forever-monitor, it appears, does not assert that it's a file
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04:37:58  <jesusabdullah>ah, it can take "an array instead of a file argument"
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04:40:53  <AvianFlu>which is of course hard to do with the CLI
04:41:12  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: So it looks like it's making the assumption that we're dealing with a file by the time the code path hits https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever/cli.js#L121
04:41:44  <jesusabdullah>I mean, you wouldn't pass an array in directly, you'd have to get it to slice the args in a sensible way
04:41:48  <jesusabdullah>and eventually pass it in
04:42:30  <jesusabdullah>Hmm
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04:42:46  <jesusabdullah>So https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever/cli.js#L223-231 is the route that gets hit by the cli
04:43:04  <Raynos>https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever.js#L337
04:43:07  <jesusabdullah>and that hits https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever/cli.js#L113-136
04:43:08  <Raynos>I can just turn that into a warning
04:43:10  <Raynos>instead of an error
04:43:14  <Raynos>and have shit hit the fan :D
04:43:52  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: I mean, maybe? But keep in mind that assuming one argument instead of assuming n arguments is really what makes this interesting
04:44:33  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: I mean, really you don't need to stat the "file" at all, but it is a nice simplifying assumption in terms of the ui
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04:45:03  <Raynos>well its worth warning
04:45:09  <Raynos>and I can just deal with ignoring the warning
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04:45:35  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: See here https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever.js#L366 you're still only passing the one argument
04:45:48  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: Oh, idea, you can just quote the command yeah?
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04:45:53  <Raynos>yeah
04:45:56  <Raynos>and I can also pass options
04:47:17  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever/cli.js#L170-204
04:47:23  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: I think this is really the interesting part here
04:47:50  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: Booting the errors and checks seems easy enough, but without addressing the ux it's pretty hacky I think
04:48:23  <jesusabdullah>You might be in the clear though, depending
04:48:35  <jesusabdullah>Like, I think this chunk actually *does* take extra args properly
04:48:42  <Raynos>ugh
04:48:47  <jesusabdullah>hmm?
04:48:48  <Raynos>this is just hacks on hacks on hacks
04:49:40  <jesusabdullah>?
04:49:52  <Raynos>im hacking the ui
04:49:54  <Raynos>it needs a proper fix
04:50:27  <jesusabdullah>Oh I get you
04:59:20  <Raynos>IT WORKS
04:59:22  <Raynos>Hells yeah
05:00:16  <Raynos>https://gist.github.com/f41d9ac505f12ffa461c
05:00:18  <jesusabdullah>This sounds promising
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05:01:19  <jesusabdullah>good to see it works
05:04:23  <Raynos>the issue is the length of these thigns >_<
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05:15:07  <Raynos>next issue is that forever list has these massive strings
05:15:10  <Raynos>that are all absolute
05:15:33  <Raynos>which makes the entire thing unreadable
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05:20:26  <Raynos>I want to read some command line options to augment how the columns are formatted ( https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever.js#L833 )
05:20:32  <Raynos>how / where do I get the CLI options?
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05:42:46  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: they're really close to https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever/cli.js#L170-204
05:43:20  <Raynos>i found
05:43:36  <Raynos>the columns rm command
05:43:39  <Raynos>which fixed my problem
05:52:26  <jesusabdullah>columns rm command?
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05:59:05  <Raynos>yeah its in forever
05:59:06  <Raynos>https://github.com/Raynos/fleet-local
05:59:13  <Raynos>It's my forever setup. Pretty complex!
05:59:20  <Raynos>but also pretty badass
05:59:25  <Raynos>managing my fleet using forever
06:00:14  <jesusabdullah>I see
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06:21:09  <Nexxy>jesusabdullah, !
06:21:54  <jesusabdullah>hey
06:22:20  <Nexxy>oh good you're still alive
06:22:30  <jesusabdullah>yeah
06:22:55  <Nexxy>goose bites can be nasty
06:23:16  <jesusabdullah>a goose bit my brother once
06:23:29  <Nexxy>was he poking it with the sharp end of an interstellar toothbrush?
06:23:53  <ljharb>goose bites?
06:24:12  <jesusabdullah>naw, goose was just a dick
06:24:18  <Nexxy>I used to feed the geese behind my grandmother's retirement home
06:24:26  <Nexxy>they were much more aggressive than the ducks
06:27:41  <jesusabdullah>yup
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09:40:52  <yawnt>yo
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09:45:57  <mmalecki>hi
09:47:58  <booyaa>mornings
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10:23:45  <whadar>hi again, my app is currently statefull and uses few dictionaries and lists instead of a using a real DB/Redis. What happens when it gets scaled and more drones are launched? Each drone will have its own distinct state?
10:26:26  <Nexxy>that would be the case
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10:47:49  <whadar>what are the limitation of each drone?
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12:01:30  <codmaster>hey
12:01:41  <codmaster>am getting error while using socket.io
12:01:41  <codmaster>Uncaught TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'connect'
12:01:59  <codmaster>any guess?
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12:03:17  <codmaster>??
12:03:32  <codmaster>Uncaught TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'connect'
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12:12:42  <Nexxy>codmaster, what does your socket.io code look like?
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12:33:21  <codmaster>Nexxy fixed!
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12:38:57  <Nexxy>codmaster, wooot
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12:59:19  <MeLight>hello dear dudes
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13:32:19  <whadar>what's the capacity of 1 drone? ~(RAM, CPU, Bandwidth)
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14:00:12  <yawnt>i asked yesterday but got no response
14:00:22  <yawnt>are here any plans to support postgresql on nodejitsu?
14:00:24  <yawnt>:)
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14:02:38  <darinc>it is possible that the west coast guys are still sleeping, you might have a better chance for that question to be answered three hours from now.
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14:21:34  <sambol>Hello :)
14:21:45  <sambol>Is this the place to ask about forever?
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14:24:41  <yawnt>yep
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14:25:50  <sambol>Right. In that case, can somebody tell me why its defaulting to try to use /root/.forever?]
14:26:44  <sambol>I've been headbanging all morning trying to work it out and I've found that its writing:
14:26:46  <sambol> fs.js:338 return binding.open(pathModule._makeLong(path), stringToFlags(flags), mode); ^ Error: EACCES, permission denied '/root/.forever/pids/tcOs.pid' at Object.fs.openSync (fs.js:338:18) at Object.fs.writeFileSync (fs.js:756:15) at writePid (/usr/lib/node_modules/forever/bin/monitor:13:6) at null.<anonymous> (/usr/lib/node_modules/forever/bin/monitor:46:5) at EventEmitter.emit (/usr/lib/no
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14:38:36  <yawnt>i want macros in js
14:38:38  <yawnt>bawwH :(
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14:42:26  <Nexxy>AvianFlu, !
14:42:38  <AvianFlu>sup Nexxy
14:43:46  <yawnt>hai AvianFlu
14:43:54  <yawnt>feeling sick today?
14:43:59  <yawnt>*badum ta tss*
14:44:33  <AvianFlu>I AM ALWAYS THIS SICK.
14:45:09  <yawnt>oh i see
14:45:12  <yawnt>AvianFlu: gotta ask you
14:45:19  <yawnt>are there any plans of supporting postgresql
14:45:20  <yawnt>?
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14:46:47  <AvianFlu>yawnt, so far, we only integrate with cloud db providers, and don't host our own
14:46:57  <AvianFlu>if you can find a cloud postgres host, we can look into it
14:47:05  <yawnt>there's just heroku's
14:47:10  <AvianFlu>but unless we change our mind on hosting our own db instances, probably not
14:47:11  <yawnt>but it's way too expensive
14:47:33  <AvianFlu>yeah, I mean, postgres is pretty sweet
14:47:48  <yawnt>cloudfoundry and openshift have their owns
14:48:22  <Nexxy>yawnt, just linode
14:48:28  <Nexxy>there are stackscripts for postgres installs
14:48:36  <Nexxy>it even has an API
14:48:40  <yawnt>Nexxy: yeah but i like nodejitsu
14:48:44  <yawnt>i wanted to use it :(
14:48:46  <Nexxy>linode + jitsu ?
14:48:52  <yawnt>nah
14:49:02  <yawnt>db managing would become a nightmare without a dba
14:49:14  <Nexxy>you must be doing some crazy stuff
14:49:15  <yawnt>unless you leave everything as it is
14:49:18  <yawnt>and it'd suck
14:49:33  <yawnt>i like to do things well, it's not a matter of performances
14:49:35  <Nexxy>apparently you're going to become the next google?
14:49:40  <yawnt>no
14:49:51  <yawnt>i just think that if i'm going to host my database i should be able to do it
14:49:54  <yawnt>and not just make it work
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14:50:41  <yawnt>if you like to just make stuff work, without really knowing what you're doing, have fun.. i dont'
14:50:44  <yawnt>*'t
14:51:03  <Nexxy>because postgres is so amazingly complicated
14:51:44  <yawnt>if you really want to know it well, yes it is
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15:38:01  <Domenic>nodejitsu peeps: you keep marketing ImageMagick support but you should definitely market that you have GraphicsMagick support as well. Much better nerd cred, just saying "ImageMagick support" makes you look a bit behind the times.
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15:41:04  <AvianFlu>Domenic, an excellent point
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17:10:59  <samshough2>did everyone see the new express website?
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17:11:59  <coderarity>no
17:12:40  <coderarity>i liked the dark one better
17:13:05  <samshough2>really? ah i just like the organization of this one more
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17:27:58  <mickeyy>i have a question about ssl, when connecting to our apps through https:// we are getting a cert error.
17:28:42  <mickeyy>do you have the setup that cloud foundry does, ssl to the proxy and then each app is non secured behind your domain?
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18:56:03  <DTrejo>seems like my jitsu deploy commands are taking a while
18:56:08  <DTrejo>maybe just b/c they are migrating?
18:56:48  <AvianFlu>migrating?
18:57:05  <AvianFlu>even moving an old RS app to joyent shouldn't really take a lot longer
18:57:06  <DTrejo>isn't it a thing that i need to re-deploy my apps so they will go onto new machines?
18:57:25  <AvianFlu>right, moving from rackspace to joyent
18:57:39  <AvianFlu>but the snapshot data is still in the same place, so it shouldn't be too long
18:57:46  <AvianFlu>maybe we're having a busy deploy day or something?
18:57:50  <DTrejo>AvianFlu: i've gotten this a couple times: https://gist.github.com/1bba724797a1dc984733
18:58:11  <AvianFlu>I'm on a plane and it's loading slow, is that a client-side socket hang up?
18:58:17  <yawnt>sigh
18:58:17  <DTrejo>I thin so
18:58:28  <AvianFlu>DTrejo, that probably actually worked
18:58:37  <AvianFlu>we need to up the timeout in the nodejitsu-api client lib
18:58:44  <AvianFlu>cause that's just local fail
18:58:58  <DTrejo>oh you're right it did owrk
18:59:01  <DTrejo>*work. thanks
19:00:20  <DTrejo>AvianFlu: I wish I had a thing that could tell me where on my physical machine I have my various apps
19:00:33  <DTrejo>since the name and the subdomain don't always line up
19:00:50  <AvianFlu>DTrejo, yeah, I have that problem in our DB sometimes too
19:01:19  <AvianFlu>cause it might be johnQcoder/johncom and be coder.john.jit.su or something
19:01:34  <AvianFlu>so it's hard to guess
19:01:40  <AvianFlu>there *might* be a way to make that a jitsu feature
19:01:47  <AvianFlu>but it's hard to say
19:02:06  <DTrejo>whenever you deploy, remember what directory it came from, and then that when you `jitsu apps list`
19:02:18  <DTrejo>*show that
19:02:55  <AvianFlu>would you mind making an issue with that as a feature request?
19:02:58  <DTrejo>OMG it happened!
19:03:02  <AvianFlu>I have to like, shut stuff off, cause the plane is landing
19:03:13  <DTrejo>I visited one of my apps, and then someone else's app is there
19:03:17  <DTrejo>will do AvianFlu
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19:06:48  <DTrejo>jesusabdullah: I just had this happen for a second time, where colorslice.jit.su was displaying a site that was not mine. The last time this happened, downsound.jit.su was showing someone else's site
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19:16:34  <jesusabdullah>DTrejo: oh no!
19:16:44  <DTrejo>i just redeployed and it went away
19:16:49  <DTrejo>but just thought I'd let you know
19:16:49  <jesusabdullah>oh well that's good
19:16:52  <jesusabdullah>Yeah, definitely
19:17:11  <jesusabdullah>Sorry about that
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19:29:33  <mickeyy>any thoughts on the SSL question from earlier? just trying to understand if ssl is part of the architecture and why we are getting cert errors hitting our apps
19:29:47  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: We proxy https to http
19:30:00  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: So *.nodejitsu.com URLs work with https fabulously
19:30:19  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: but you can't just, like, throw an ssl cert up and have it work like that, because your traffic hits our balancers first
19:30:35  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: so, our balancers need your ssl certificates, not the drone you deploy on. Make sense?
19:31:35  <mickeyy>when you say balancer are you talking http-proxy or a router?
19:31:54  <jesusabdullah>http proxy
19:32:44  <mickeyy>sorry if this is a noobish question, but does that mean we need our own ssl cert or not (just to get secure traffic to your balancer, not beyond)
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19:34:13  <mickeyy>just trying to understand why when we hit https://[account].[app name here].nodejitsu.com we get a cert error
19:36:11  <Fabryz>evening
19:36:39  <Fabryz>how's the server moving stuff going? do I have to start redeploying?
19:37:06  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: If the traffic is going to https://thesubdomainyoupicked.nodejitsu.com and you serve your app over http (so http://thesubdomainyoupicked.nodejitsu.com) works fine, then it should work
19:37:21  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: If you're getting a cert error, you should link me the actual address and I may be able to tell you more
19:37:42  <mickeyy>gotcha.
19:37:52  <jesusabdullah>Fabryz: I don't think it's happened quite yet, though you should probably start the process of migration rather than waiting
19:38:43  <Fabryz>jesusabdullah I just need to fire jitsu deploy alone or is there anything else?
19:39:12  <cronopio>Fabryz: running jitsu deploy you automagically will migrate your app to joyent
19:39:31  <Fabryz>good, will try that now
19:39:41  <cronopio>Fabryz: tell us how goes
19:40:06  <jesusabdullah>Fabryz: typically all you have to do is deploy, yes. If you run into difficulties we're here to help.
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19:41:20  <Fabryz>jesusabdullah deploying
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19:44:06  <Fabryz>jesusabdullah tried with one and looks fine
19:44:21  <Fabryz>http://tweet-a-table.nodejitsu.com/
19:48:07  <jesusabdullah>Fabryz: wow, very cool
19:48:24  <jesusabdullah>Fabryz: also, good to hear. Most deploys should be seamless like that. :)
19:52:38  <blakmatrix>Fabryz: in your app is it intentionall that the numbers stay upside down when you flip the sports cards over ?
19:54:04  <Fabryz>blakmatrix ya, we left it like that on hover
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19:57:11  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: That's interesting, looks like the nested subdomains is confusing it maybe
19:57:36  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: I'll put in some inquiries, see what I can do, but one suggestion in the meantime is to only go "one deep" on the subdomain(s) instead of two
19:57:54  <jesusabdullah>mickeyy: cause the cert's for *.nodejitsu.com which I guess is different from *.*.nodejitsu.com
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20:40:45  <CoryG89>When deploying with jitsu, will it package the app with all images in sub-directories within the root app directory. It seems when deploying that some of my images are not uploaded. Some of them are, but ones that have the same dimensions seem to be skipped.
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20:43:54  <jesusabdullah>CoryG89: We use npm to bundle your apps. Do you have those missing images in your .gitignore ? If so, create an empty .npmignore and see if that works better.
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22:02:42  <CoryG89>Apparently the trouble I was having stemmed from some of my images having a capital letter extension .PNG instead of .png and the GET on these images was failing, even though it worked just fine locally.
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22:08:23  <jesusabdullah>CoryG89: You're on windows?
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22:08:36  <jesusabdullah>CoryG89: Virtually all over filesystems are case-sensitive.
22:12:50  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah, I know you all must be busy but any new info on when I can start paying you guys? :)
22:13:42  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: it sounds like it will be very soon
22:13:53  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: I don't know the exact day
22:14:48  <CoryG89>Yes I'm on Windows... it works when I run it in node locally. However all is well, it is working when I have all extensions lower-case.
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22:18:31  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: ah the non descriptive very soon haha but fair enough. I know you guys are working hard on it
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23:48:36  <ProLoser|Work>when you guys gonna be unbanned from freenode :(
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23:49:39  <ProLoser|Work>gonna have to deploy to nodester at this rate lol
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