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00:03:21  <jesusabdullah>he did
00:03:31  <mmalecki>good!
00:03:47  <mmalecki>I hope you don't mind me giving him your number, jesusabdullah
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00:04:02  <mmalecki>he could've always kicked the door out!
00:05:53  <jesusabdullah>mmalecki: good work!
00:05:56  <jesusabdullah>mmalecki: naw not at all
00:06:04  <jesusabdullah>I told him how to break through the gates
00:06:08  <mmalecki>hahahaha
00:06:12  <mmalecki>nice.
00:06:33  <deoxxa>jesusabdullah: i'm hoping the instructions started with "become the hulk"
00:06:35  <coderarity>ls
00:06:37  <coderarity>oops
00:06:48  <mmalecki>now that balancers are fixed and you are back, I'll be going to sleep soon
00:08:30  <mmalecki>also, any idea when will AvianFlu be back?
00:09:46  <jesusabdullah>I don't know
00:09:58  <jesusabdullah>but I suspect I can hold down the fort until he is
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00:10:59  <mmalecki>oh well...
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00:27:09  <zzarcon>Hi all
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00:28:04  <zzarcon>somebody know the ECONNREFUSED error?
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00:29:20  <coderarity>mmalecki: ^
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00:29:37  <coderarity>zzarcon: wait, where is this econnrefused at?
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00:30:32  <zzarcon>coderarity: when i enter here http://socialchessapp.jit.su/
00:30:51  <coderarity>alright
00:31:02  <mmalecki>please, don't be what I'm thinking about, please.
00:31:09  <mmalecki>coderarity: let me investigate this one
00:31:14  <coderarity>alright
00:31:31  <mmalecki>zzarcon: what's your username and appname?
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00:32:44  <zzarcon>mmalecki: one moment please
00:33:20  <zzarcon>my username is -> socialchess
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00:33:47  <zzarcon>and my appname is -> socialchessapp
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00:35:38  <mmalecki>zzarcon: your app was spinning, it looks like
00:36:01  <mmalecki>ah, it was stopped by the master API due to constant crashing
00:36:06  <mmalecki>you should get an email
00:36:22  <mmalecki>but the problem was
00:36:23  <mmalecki>/opt/haibu/apps/socialchess/socialChess/package/app.js:30
00:36:23  <mmalecki> if(process.setuid) process.setuid("www-data");//Si se existe la funcio
00:36:26  <mmalecki> ^
00:36:28  <mmalecki>Error: ENOENT, No such file or directory
00:36:31  <mmalecki> at Server.<anonymous> (/opt/haibu/apps/socialchess/socialChess/package/app.js:30:36)
00:36:34  <mmalecki>here
00:36:43  <mmalecki>setuid won't work on nodejitsu
00:37:09  <zzarcon>ooh
00:37:27  <zzarcon>i think setuid run ok
00:37:34  <zzarcon>i change now
00:38:50  <zzarcon>uploading the new version
00:38:51  <zzarcon>thanks
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00:49:21  <mmalecki>zzarcon: appears to be working now, cool :)
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00:49:39  <mmalecki>anyway, good night folks
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01:01:03  <nz_>Just trying to confirm my account -- gets to "set the new password below" before pumping out an error: var winSize = output .getWindowSize();
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01:01:31  <nz_>Mac OS X Mountain Lion
01:01:37  <nz_>Terminal
01:02:25  <jesusabdullah>nz_: what version of node do you have installed? `node -v`
01:02:45  <zzarcon>mmalecki: Yes :) thanks you very much men!!
01:03:54  <nz_>0.6.12
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01:05:28  <nz_>gah. I thought I just updated it!
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01:06:35  <jesusabdullah>nz_: can you please update to 0.6.20 or 0.8.8?
01:06:42  <jesusabdullah>nz_: that will fix the problem
01:07:01  <nz_>@jesesabdullah: that was it. you rock.
01:07:08  <jesusabdullah>Hah, thanks
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01:10:05  <zzarcon>Hi all
01:10:31  <jesusabdullah>hello!
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01:17:01  <garrettwilkin>how is the file system access handled for drones?
01:17:15  <garrettwilkin>is it part of the haibu-carapace functionality?
01:17:45  <garrettwilkin>I'm just thinking, if my drone can get moved to different servers, can i depend on writing and reading files to disk?
01:22:04  <jesusabdullah>garrettwilkin: no, we offer scratch space but it doesn't persist across deploys
01:22:18  <jesusabdullah>garrettwilkin: our recommendation is s3 or rackspace cloudfiles or something like that, at least for now
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01:23:14  <garrettwilkin>jesusabdullah: okie dome thanks
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03:22:51  <wayne>hello, did any one encounter 404 problem when do a jitsu deploy?
03:23:10  <wayne>I logged in, and cd to my node app, and deploy
03:23:25  <wayne>here was an error while checking app name / subdomain availability. error: Error: Nodejitsu Error (404): Item not found
03:23:55  <jesusabdullah>wayne: are you using jitsu to deploy?
03:24:05  <jesusabdullah>wayne: the web app is very tempermental, I recommend using jitsu
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03:28:42  <wayne>jesusab, I definitely use jitsu command line tool to deploy
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03:34:40  <rvagg>should've used Ender for the webapp jesusabdullah, would be solid as a rock then!
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04:18:55  <Sly>coderarity or jesusabdullah, ping.
04:22:55  <LuckySMack>can anyone point to some more advanced flatiron/resourceful examples other than the creature ones?
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04:33:24  <LuckySMack>is director being phased out for sugarskull? is is there a reason to use one over the other?
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04:35:42  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/resourceful/compare/837c6ca8768c...77a03026a505
04:35:42  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/resourceful/builds/2364412
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04:41:38  <Sly>AvianFlu, you around?
04:41:51  <AvianFlu>Sly: yeah, what's good
04:42:09  <Sly>In the flatiron docs, I see you guys have some kind of autogeneration going on..
04:42:24  <Sly>How would you define a function with a property that can be multiple types?
04:42:35  <Sly>Example..
04:42:36  <Sly>/ #### @options {Object} Options for the application to create
04:42:39  <Sly>{Object,String}?
04:49:19  <coderarity>Sly: not sure, i think it's jsdoc though
04:49:51  <Sly>I'll look into that.
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05:18:43  <Sly>Mighty quiet in here tonight.
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05:45:47  <jesusabdullah>yeah
05:45:54  <jesusabdullah>sorry I'm tired
05:46:01  <deoxxa>that's not ok
05:46:06  <deoxxa>you have to be super energetic all the time
05:46:19  <deoxxa>10% paycut for drowsiness
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05:49:52  <jesusabdullah>balls.
05:50:25  <coderarity>can I get a 10% raise for not being drowsy?
05:50:30  <coderarity>:P
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05:50:43  <jesusabdullah>hell naw! ;)
05:50:48  <deoxxa>you get the 10% that's taken from jesusabdullah
05:51:01  <deoxxa>this introduces a new meta-currency of energeticism
05:51:14  <jesusabdullah>obtw coderarity we need to have a meeting tomorrow, I had to leave today so I wasn't able to have one :(
05:51:24  <coderarity>alright
05:51:26  <coderarity>i'll be here
05:51:28  <jesusabdullah>word
05:51:32  <deoxxa>there's a pool of wages available, and they're distributed according to your energy quota
05:51:36  <coderarity>jesusabdullah: actually should probably give me a time in case i'm asleep
05:51:47  <coderarity>if i'm not sleeping or at the store i'm here
05:52:22  <coderarity>eh, i got a bottle of pepto bismal and a ton of caffeine, i can stay awake all day tomorrow :P
05:52:29  <jesusabdullah>lulz
05:52:34  <jesusabdullah>2:00-ish?
05:52:37  <coderarity>sure
05:52:40  <jesusabdullah>word
05:53:11  <coderarity>jesusabdullah: i woke up at 6 PM today, as an example of how bad my sleep schedule is atm :P
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05:53:30  <coderarity>i've been trying to fix it, but it's really hard, lol
05:56:18  <jesusabdullah>I feel you man
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07:59:06  <coderarity>does anyone else have an irrational fear that tablets are going to overpower their huge desktop computers next year?
07:59:27  <coderarity>looking at what NVidia has planned I am genuinely concerned
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08:02:34  <booyaa>nah i think you're going to see a lot more laptop tops with touch screen
08:02:44  <booyaa>possible more touchscreen external displays too
08:03:21  <coderarity>laptops with touchscreens are annoying unless they flip over
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08:03:40  <deoxxa>i have a toughbook that does that
08:03:41  <deoxxa>it's awesome
08:03:53  <coderarity>but i kinda like the asus eee pad transformer idea
08:04:19  <coderarity>touch works really well for most stuff
08:04:29  <coderarity>keyboard is just a cost they don't need to add, tbh
08:04:36  <coderarity>people that wans keyboards can get that
08:04:43  <booyaa>are they now bundling the keyboards?
08:04:48  <booyaa>i know the earlier models didn't
08:06:06  <coderarity>booyaa: with the asus eee pad transformer? i don't think so
08:06:13  <coderarity>i meant laptops with touch, seems almost redundant
08:06:26  <coderarity>touch screen and a touch pad? meh
08:06:41  <booyaa>it might be, if the os ui doesn't cater well for it
08:07:18  <coderarity>booyaa: well, i'm mainly talking android, since most dekstop OS's don't do ARM
08:07:27  <booyaa>you have to kinda drp the whole wimps hci come up with something else like minority report
08:07:42  <booyaa>raspberry pi
08:08:13  <booyaa>and the other plug/beagles but they're aimed at the microcontroller market
08:09:05  <coderarity>i never liked WIMP much anyways
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08:12:37  <nathan7>I'm hoping ARM takes off for desktop
08:13:50  <booyaa>nathan7: i'll be interested to see if they take off for servers
08:14:11  <booyaa>seems counterintutive, but someone's seen a need for them
08:14:43  <nathan7>a friend of mine, Hexxeh, is trying to stuff as much RPis as he can into a server case
08:14:52  <nathan7>as cheap dedis
08:18:26  <booyaa>nathan7: hexxeh is a bad ass mofo
08:18:33  <booyaa>i would have his babies
08:19:10  <booyaa>i wonder if we'll ever see a mac colo for raspberry pis :D
08:19:15  <coderarity>ARMv8 might help with desktop ARM
08:19:20  <booyaa>that would be one funny looking data centre
08:22:58  <nathan7>booyaa: heh
08:23:39  <nathan7>He hosts my VPS C=
08:25:19  <coderarity>my tablet is more powerful than my netbook
08:25:19  <coderarity>crap
08:25:38  <booyaa>yeah my eeepc did not age well
08:26:00  <booyaa>the rpi is frequently sneering at it and tying its laces together
08:27:11  <booyaa>right time to get on with some work
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08:52:24  <geraldyeo>Hi, my socket.io's seems to stopped running…. instated.jit.su
08:52:29  <geraldyeo>instawed.jit.su
08:52:43  <geraldyeo>status is 101 switching protocol
08:53:05  <`3rdEden>geraldyeo that's the state a websocket should be in
08:53:54  <`3rdEden>Also it seems to work just fine from here: http://cl.ly/image/1Q0h043k2K0I
08:54:21  <geraldyeo>ok, but it wasn't that why before yesterday's load balancer issue
08:54:34  <geraldyeo>i could upload an image to instagram
08:54:45  <geraldyeo>and the app would refresh
08:55:04  <geraldyeo>which is why i was puzzled by it
08:55:39  <geraldyeo>let me get my app on gist
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08:56:02  <`3rdEden>geraldyeo you can just see the data that is sended to the browser by opening your browsers network panel
08:56:10  <`3rdEden>selecting the websocket connection
08:56:34  <`3rdEden>and click on the frames tab: http://cl.ly/image/3b2O0N1p1c45
08:58:32  <geraldyeo>oh so the heartbeat's there? and not the xhr-polling ones i used to see?
09:00:37  <`3rdEden>geraldyeo if socket.io established a websocket connection, it will send all data over that, including heartbeats
09:03:36  <geraldyeo>thanks for the explanation 3rdEden
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10:51:59  <Sly>Hey, yawnt.
10:52:03  <Sly>/late response.
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11:28:54  <impero>can anybody help me with on simple question?
11:28:59  <impero>*one
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11:29:53  <impero>i've done simple game, and i want to connect it to facebook tab
11:30:01  <impero>i am using socket.io
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11:30:26  <impero>it seems there it can't connect...
11:30:34  <impero>anyone?
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11:31:47  <mikeywaites>hey is it possible to put some basic auth infront of an app on node jitsu?
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11:53:19  <katjang>aw man... jitsu needs latest node, huh? i'm stuck with 0.6.x due to osx 10.5.8 :(
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11:54:36  <mikeywaites>katjang: you thought about checking out vagrant ?
11:54:59  <katjang>what's vagrant?
11:54:59  <mikeywaites>katjang: http://vagrantup.com/
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11:55:22  <mikeywaites>its a wrapper around Virtualboxes command line api, allows you to create development boxs really easy
11:55:42  <MerlinDMC>only works if the 10.5 machine is an intel one i think :P
11:56:04  <mikeywaites>MerlinDMC: yeh i think your right
11:56:14  <katjang>MerlinDMC, mines on intel, but builds throws errors :(
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11:56:55  <mikeywaites>katjang: you can get a vagrant box running with ubuntu server in now time
11:57:05  <katjang>mikeywaites, looks cool.. install ubuntu ontop of vagrant i suppose?
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11:57:15  <MerlinDMC>katjang, I'm not on 10.5 anymore ... and apple does not allow me to install that in a vm to test ... -.-
11:57:15  <mikeywaites>katjang: exactly
11:58:44  <katjang>mikeywaites, worth the try! :).. while i figure out how to upgrade my mac.. thanks :)
11:58:53  <mikeywaites>katjang: no probs
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13:07:16  <wibuni>learned to much Java today for study exams. it's better i don't code any javascript this afternoon :P
13:07:50  <booyaa>what exams? university?
13:07:59  <wibuni>yeah
13:08:14  <wibuni>studying informatics ;)
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13:12:41  <booyaa>is that what they call computer sciences nowadays?
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13:15:25  <wibuni>yeah :D
13:15:27  <wibuni>i think so
13:16:04  <deoxxa>"today children we will learn about how to google for a library to do a specific task. did everyone bring their erasable pencils and wide-ruled paper?"
13:16:37  <deoxxa>"oh jimmy, you can't eat your paper every lesson. by the way, nice work on the high distinction."
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13:16:55  <deoxxa>(disclaimer: i've never been to university)
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13:19:28  <coderarity>deoxxa: i started doing computer science and it was like "so AT&T distributed Unix and then Berkeley made their own version, and eventually Linux Torvalds was like "let's go make a kernel" in some usenet or something and that's how Linux and BSD were made"
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13:20:07  <deoxxa>> BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War.
13:20:08  <coderarity>then we started learning binary and I stoppe listening
13:20:47  <coderarity>oh wait, we got to make our dream computer first
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13:20:58  <coderarity>so i had like 16 cores and several graphics cards and stuff, it was great
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13:21:28  <deoxxa>rofl
13:21:42  <deoxxa>yeah i get the feeling i didn't miss out on much, skipping university
13:21:46  <deoxxa>except maybe student loan debts
13:22:01  <utunga>uh.. folks is it rude for me to ask a nodejitsu specific q here?
13:22:14  <coderarity>utunga: nope, just ask :D
13:23:04  <utunga>cool.. so i have a service that doesn't listen on any sockets.. instead it long-polls twitter and posts to a couchdb.. runs great locally but when I deploy it gets killed by.. haibu i think? .. cause its saying "Script took too long to listen on a socket"
13:23:24  <utunga>do i have to just add a dummy socket.io listener or can you change something in package.json ?
13:23:55  <coderarity>utunga: well, no, not a socket.io listener, but an HTTP server
13:24:21  <coderarity>utunga: basically, just add require('http').createServer().listen(8080); somewhere and you should be good
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13:24:36  <coderarity>preferably at the beginning of your application
13:24:42  <utunga>ah.. true.. dont need to get fancy ok will do
13:25:25  <limptwiglet>coderarity: me again! :D, so I still couldnt deploy my app, so i tried to simplify it and start a new version, but now I'm getting a 500 server error straight away
13:25:44  <coderarity>limptwiglet: are you still using socket.io?
13:25:52  <limptwiglet>coderarity: yeah
13:26:17  <coderarity>limptwiglet: bundle socket.io and remove the redis dependency, see if that works
13:26:41  <limptwiglet>coderarity: will do
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13:27:12  <coderarity>limptwiglet: even better, remove hiredis from the node_modules/socket.io/node_modules/redis package.json
13:27:26  <coderarity>limptwiglet: and still bundle socket.io of course :D
13:27:57  <coderarity>of course you'd have to bundle redis in your node_modules/socket.io package.json too
13:28:00  <coderarity>man that gets confusing
13:28:05  <limptwiglet>:S
13:28:11  <utunga>@coderaity - nice! that advice worked a treat, thanks.. app starts up happily now, i guess i'll probably do something with the web side at some point
13:28:12  <limptwiglet>bundle has been removed from npm
13:28:13  <limptwiglet>:S
13:28:33  <coderarity>limptwiglet: what do you mean?
13:29:12  <limptwiglet>npm bundle command has been removed coderarity
13:30:02  <coderarity>limptwiglet: add "bundleDependencies": ["socket.io"] to your package.json and then cd node_modules/socket.io and add "bundleDependencies": ["redis"] to that package.json then cd node_modules/redis (from the socket.io directory) and remove lines 15-17 in that package.json
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13:31:23  <coderarity>limptwiglet: https://npmjs.org/doc/json.html#bundledDependencies
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13:34:12  <limptwiglet>coderarity: yeah just trying to deploy
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13:36:03  <limptwiglet>coderarity: should i remove socket.io from my dependencies if its in bundledDependencies
13:36:12  <coderarity>limptwiglet: you can if you want
13:36:35  <limptwiglet>kk wont make a diff
13:36:59  <coderarity>personally i do, but you might have to use `jitsu deploy --noanalyze`
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13:42:00  <limptwiglet>coderarity: still getting problems :(
13:42:17  <limptwiglet>i created a far simpler app, that only uses socket.io and express to see if it was some of my deps
13:42:23  <limptwiglet>*other deps
13:42:36  <limptwiglet>but that is throwing a 500 error
13:42:40  <coderarity>nah it's definitely just socket.io
13:43:16  <coderarity>limptwiglet: alright then, just cd node_modules/socket.io and remove redis from that package.json, and then rm -r node_modules/redis
13:43:21  <coderarity>limptwiglet: and try it again
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14:08:28  <coderarity>i'm getting those google glass things and i'm putting this chatroom on it
14:08:30  <coderarity>lol
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14:09:01  <coderarity>it'd be like support HUD
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15:58:33  <sberryman>anyone around?
15:59:42  <cronopio>sberryman: sure!, How can I help you?
15:59:51  <sberryman>cant reach my app
15:59:59  <sberryman>ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE
16:00:19  <sberryman>sberryman / teeleader-be
16:00:30  <cronopio>sberryman: ok, let us check
16:01:30  <AvianFlu>sberryman: you're seeing that in chrome?
16:01:35  <sberryman>yeah
16:01:41  <sberryman>dns looks fine
16:01:46  <AvianFlu>can you curl -v thatsite and see what it says?
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16:02:04  <sberryman>ha
16:02:09  <sberryman>looks like it worked
16:02:24  <AvianFlu>what kind of a site?
16:02:25  <sberryman>and loads fine in firefox
16:02:29  <AvianFlu>that's weird
16:02:39  <sberryman>did something change?
16:02:42  <sberryman>it is loading now
16:02:42  <AvianFlu>check your logs maybe, it could be a super-weird crash
16:02:47  <AvianFlu>I dunno
16:02:57  <AvianFlu>all I've done is ask you for details, I hadn't looked yet
16:03:09  <sberryman>it seemed to work after i tried to access the site via the nodejitsu url
16:03:09  <AvianFlu>intermittent crashes can sometimes do this sort of thing
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16:05:24  <sberryman>oh well, it is back up
16:05:28  <sberryman>didn't see anything in the logs
16:07:01  <AvianFlu>I'll take a look at the drone in a minute, but otherwise just let us know if it happens again, I guess
16:08:23  <sberryman>haha
16:08:34  <sberryman>thanks, i wanted to bring it up in here before i tried to restart it
16:08:46  <AvianFlu>wouldn't be the first weird disappearing crash bug in the history of the web
16:08:49  <AvianFlu>that's for damn sure :D
16:09:46  <sberryman>i killed the joyent smartcloud instance of that same app and then tried to open the page (it has been hosted in nodejitsu for a few days) and it didn't come up so i got a little scared :)
16:10:13  <AvianFlu>understandable
16:11:52  <AvianFlu>sberryman: I might see it here, just a sec
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16:14:15  <garrettwilkin>trying pretty hard to figure out how to add loggly to my app. but I'm finding the docs a little hard to follow. I was hoping that i could figure out how to do it, through brute force, and then submit a docs pull request
16:14:21  <garrettwilkin>but instead I'm just failing
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16:17:25  <AvianFlu>their setup is a bit convoluted
16:17:49  <garrettwilkin>I'm confused as to whether or not i need to include winston-loggy, for example
16:18:08  <AvianFlu>garrettwilkin: only if you're using winston yourself
16:18:33  <garrettwilkin>i saw in the docs that app.log should be loaded by default, but i think i still need to say 'app.use(flatiron.plugins.log)' or app.log will be undefined
16:18:35  <coderarity>words of warning: electrical tape is messy
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16:21:13  <garrettwilkin>and then I'm not sure how to add the options for loggly. do I need to call app.config.set('log',{subdomain:derp.com, inputToken:'123456789-987654321'})
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16:22:08  <garrettwilkin>and then set app.options.log = app.config.get('log'):
16:22:10  <garrettwilkin>?
16:22:15  <garrettwilkin>Im not sure what this means
16:22:16  <garrettwilkin>https://github.com/flatiron/flatiron#applog
16:22:57  <AvianFlu>garrettwilkin: there's a specific config format for those
16:23:05  <AvianFlu>I'll see if I can find a clean one to gist you
16:24:11  <garrettwilkin>okay thanks, by the way I already attempted several config option object shapes, based on the docs that I could find
16:24:34  <garrettwilkin>If i do get it working, i'll still try and submit the docs pull request if that would be helpful
16:26:34  <AvianFlu>garrettwilkin: I think this is the config format you need https://github.com/indexzero/winston-loggly#run-tests
16:26:43  <AvianFlu>ignore the fact that it's about testing, there - but that should work
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16:47:19  <garrettwilkin>i actually tried that one
16:47:21  <garrettwilkin>and i got an error
16:47:27  <garrettwilkin>but i will give it another shot
16:47:33  <garrettwilkin>and gist my code & output
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17:04:35  <coti>aloha!
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17:09:56  <thebuckst0p>Hi! I have a support request: I'm migrating an old app to nodejitsu to get acquainted with the service. But I'm running into bcrypt compilation errors, i think from socket.io: "npm ERR! `sh "-c" "node-gyp rebuild"` failed with 7 / Failed at the [email protected] install script." - I see this was an open issue on github, has a solution been found?
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17:19:06  <thebuckst0p>Hello, what's the procedure for support tickets?
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17:23:30  <coti>anyone can tell when the paid plans are going to release ?
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18:00:34  <Nodejitsu-Github>[require-analyzer/refactor] use console.log instead of util.puts - Felix Böhm
18:00:34  <Nodejitsu-Github>[require-analyzer/refactor] added a analyzer.path method that calls the appropriate function for a path - Felix Böhm
18:00:34  <Nodejitsu-Github>[require-analyzer/refactor] use .path inside .dir (replaces findit) - Felix Böhm
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18:15:19  <thebuckst0p>(followup on the last error I posted) I'm getting a "Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error" now, can anyone help with that?
18:15:40  <thebuckst0p>"Error: socket hang up / at createHangUpError (http.js:1263:15) / at Socket.socketOnEnd (http.js:1351:23) / at TCP.onread (net.js:417:26)"
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18:19:29  <jesusabdullah>thebuckst0p: sure, i can help you out, what's your username and app name?
18:19:45  <sberryman>any plans to do a tailable log?
18:19:49  <jesusabdullah>yes
18:19:54  <thebuckst0p>thanks. username is thebuckst0p, app is newleafdigital-apps-hq
18:20:02  <jesusabdullah>we have the pieces in place sberryman, just need to deploy them
18:20:11  <sberryman>nice :)
18:20:30  <AvianFlu>thebuckst0p: just try it again, the server that hung up on you was in a bad state and has been fixed
18:20:51  <sberryman>and reverse jitsu logs so i don't have to scroll up
18:21:40  <thebuckst0p>trying again
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18:22:19  <thebuckst0p>it would be great to have a verbose mode to 'deploy', maybe that's the same as a tailable log
18:22:37  <thebuckst0p>it's been on "starting app" for 30+ seconds
18:22:51  <thebuckst0p>now it says, "socket hang up"
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18:23:03  <Nodejitsu-Github>[require-analyzer/refactor] [fix] still accessed property before checking it with `in` - Felix Böhm
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18:26:12  <thebuckst0p>interestingly, the app seems to be responding, but none of the static assets or views are working
18:26:27  <thebuckst0p>(it works fine locally, same version of node)
18:26:39  <thebuckst0p>(and it works on the previous server where it's hosted)
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18:27:04  <Nodejitsu-Github>[require-analyzer/refactor] [fix] passed filenames instead of paths to .path - Felix Böhm
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18:34:30  <thebuckst0p>does a "Error: Error: ENOENT, stat" likely represent a bug in the system, or something in my code? (not seeing the error on other environments with the same code deployed)
18:34:46  <thebuckst0p>specifically regarding a .css file, generated by less
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18:38:44  <Nodejitsu-Github>[require-analyzer/refactor] forward errors from prerunners in runAnalyze - Felix Böhm
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18:38:56  <blakmatrix>thebuckst0p: the only thing in that dirctory is bootstrap lists.css nld-apps.css nld-apps.less
18:39:44  <blakmatrix>there is no lists.less
18:40:20  <thebuckst0p>lists.less is a symlink, actually
18:40:31  <thebuckst0p>how does deploy handle symlinks?
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18:44:43  <jesusabdullah>thebuckst0p: i don't believe it does, that's an npm thang
18:44:49  <jesusabdullah>I may be wrong
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18:51:05  <blakmatrix>thebuckst0p: npm pack doesn't perserve your symlinks it seems
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18:54:14  <blakmatrix>thebuckst0p: makes a bit of sense when uo look at it objectively, if you installed it on windows for example it couldnt translate those symlinks, symlinks are completely a OS thing
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19:13:18  <st_luke>jesusabdullah AvianFlu, anyone around?
19:13:23  <st_luke>getting econnrefused again on empirejs.org
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19:19:40  <thebuckst0p>blakmatrix how did you list the files in the directory? i put in a test file (test.css) and it's not loading
19:24:40  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: on deploy or site visit?
19:24:47  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: site visit
19:24:52  <jesusabdullah>frick
19:24:58  <st_luke>usually happens when I deploy
19:25:52  <jesusabdullah>interesting
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19:26:22  <jesusabdullah>what's the username/appname st_luke /
19:26:24  <jesusabdullah>?*
19:26:29  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: indexzero/empirejs
19:26:33  <jesusabdullah>got bird detritus under my shift key, my bad
19:26:39  <st_luke>gross heh
19:27:05  <jesusabdullah>yeah, a little bit
19:27:17  <jesusabdullah>to be fair it's feathers and seed dust mostly
19:27:18  <jesusabdullah>not turds
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19:28:07  <st_luke>in that case, I feel a bit better about it haha
19:28:12  <st_luke>for your sake, at least
19:28:36  <jesusabdullah>yeah, for sure
19:28:37  <jesusabdullah>>_<
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19:30:11  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: doesn't look like the app crashed or anything
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19:30:15  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: we're investigating
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19:30:20  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: thanks dude
19:30:26  <harbhub>hey fellas
19:30:59  <jesusabdullah>hi harbhub
19:31:16  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: my guess right now is balancer disconnect, we're lookin' into it
19:31:32  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: also convince indexzero to ship me to nyc for this "empire js"
19:31:33  <harbhub>someone told me that node crashed a lot
19:31:40  <harbhub>any truth to that?
19:31:41  <jesusabdullah>who told you that/
19:31:43  <jesusabdullah>?8
19:31:45  <jesusabdullah>**
19:31:47  <jesusabdullah>dammit
19:31:59  <blakmatrix>harbhub: bad code crashes
19:32:03  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: node is good about crashing on error instead of continuing like nothing's wrong
19:32:12  <harbhub>got it
19:32:13  <harbhub>:)
19:32:14  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: to people that write bad code it feels like a lot of errors
19:32:23  <harbhub>as it should
19:32:32  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: but if you catch the errors and have a good way to handle them you're g2g
19:32:42  <blakmatrix>harbhub: or peopel that just make typos :P bad code === typos
19:32:45  <jesusabdullah>and if you crash you should have something like forever to restart it to a known good initial state
19:32:49  <blakmatrix>erm
19:33:00  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: I'll see what I can do :)
19:33:02  <blakmatrix>!(bad code === typos :P)
19:33:09  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: word
19:33:12  <harbhub>lol
19:33:19  <harbhub>so my iphone app needs a web service
19:33:28  <harbhub>we are basically letting people upload sound clips
19:33:34  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: maybe if I come up with a talk ;) though at this point it's probably a little late for that
19:33:40  <harbhub>then subscribe to people
19:33:52  <harbhub>then listen to the sound clips that they publish
19:34:00  <harbhub>so we need a file base
19:34:09  <harbhub>we want horizontal scalability
19:37:46  <coderarity>st_luke: looks like it's up now
19:41:53  <harbhub>i'm using express and jade
19:42:00  <harbhub>how do i reference an image from imgur?
19:42:08  <harbhub>img(src='http://imgur.com/FIy3O')
19:42:11  <harbhub>but it doesnt work
19:42:37  <coderarity>harbhub: right click on the image and click view
19:42:37  <harbhub>the reason i think it doesn't work is because i think express is trying to route to public/http://imgur....
19:43:00  <nathan7>well, check it
19:43:10  <harbhub>i did that code, now what?
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19:43:58  <harbhub>ok
19:43:59  <harbhub>got it working
19:44:01  <harbhub>thanks code!
19:44:09  <harbhub>img(src='http://i.imgur.com/FIy3O.jpg') was correct
19:44:10  <harbhub>:)
19:44:22  <harbhub>coderarity: thanks amigo
19:44:38  <harbhub>imgur stores permanently? or do i need to make an account?
19:44:46  <nathan7>They store permanently
19:44:50  <nathan7>Though I'd recommend an account
19:44:51  <harbhub>sweet
19:44:55  <harbhub>why?
19:44:58  <nathan7>and it's not really polite to host all your website's images there
19:45:01  <harbhub>just to keep track of my images
19:45:03  <harbhub>?
19:45:07  <nathan7>so you can delete your images, keep track of 'em, etc
19:45:59  <harbhub>alright
19:46:02  <harbhub>last question
19:46:09  <harbhub>can i upload a bunch of images at once?
19:46:18  <harbhub>and each gets a unique url?
19:47:05  <harbhub>im trying it now
19:47:08  <harbhub>heh
19:47:41  <harbhub>i'm using cloud file storage for images for horizontal scalability!
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19:54:06  <harbhub>whoa
19:54:10  <harbhub>the quality sucks from imgur...
19:56:43  <harbhub>why does the quality go down when i use imgur compared to storing images in my static folder?
19:57:53  <harbhub>it says the imgur image is 90px by 90px
19:58:04  <harbhub>when it should be 1024px by 650px
19:58:24  <nathan7>are you using the thumbnail or someshit?
19:58:38  <nathan7>I see your 1024x824 image on imgur
19:58:50  <nathan7>if you hotlink it might downsize it
19:58:56  <harbhub>hmm
19:59:01  <harbhub>i'm confused
19:59:31  <harbhub>i guess it is the way the album is set up?
19:59:33  <harbhub>i made an album
19:59:43  <harbhub>and choose the far right option (thumbs)
20:00:57  <harbhub>i used grid layout
20:01:00  <harbhub>could that affect it?
20:01:17  <nathan7>the thumbs are small
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20:01:24  <nathan7>that's why they're thumbnails
20:01:28  <nathan7>approximately the size of a thumb nail
20:01:42  <harbhub>well crap lol
20:02:03  <nathan7>don't use the thumbnails if you don't want thumbnails
20:02:22  <harbhub>but
20:02:26  <harbhub>what album layout do i use?
20:02:34  <harbhub>just the basic default?
20:03:38  <nathan7>?
20:03:41  <nathan7>Album?
20:03:45  <nathan7>Why are you trying to use an album?
20:03:57  <harbhub>i wanted three albums
20:04:01  <harbhub>black and white
20:04:04  <harbhub>fashion
20:04:06  <harbhub>wedding
20:04:10  <harbhub>each with diff pics
20:04:17  <harbhub>maybe i shouldnt use an album at all?
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20:05:18  <harbhub>i'm trying again with no album
20:05:19  <nathan7>..in the album, click the image
20:05:22  <nathan7>get the full size image
20:06:06  <harbhub>ok it works now
20:07:04  <harbhub>nathan7: thanks
20:07:37  <nathan7>C=
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20:09:10  <harbhub>nathan7: now for the real challenge
20:09:27  <harbhub>can i make a list of images in my html (jade) markup
20:09:37  <harbhub>that will interate all of the photos in an imgur album?
20:09:46  <harbhub>so that i can upload a new image to the imgur album
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20:09:59  <harbhub>and it automatically adds the img tag with the original image source
20:10:02  <harbhub>?
20:11:02  <nathan7>yes, there's an imgur API
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20:11:51  <harbhub>;D
20:12:00  <harbhub>that sounds epic
20:12:20  <harbhub>nathan7: what is your profession?
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20:19:08  <yawnto>heya
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20:19:21  <AvianFlu>yawnt_: ZOMGZ HI
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20:19:36  <yawnt_>look who lost his capslock
20:19:36  <yawnt_>:>
20:19:45  * yawnt_changed nick to YAWNT_
20:19:50  <YAWNT_>ph33r th3 b33r
20:20:09  <nathan7>harbhub: My profession? None at all.
20:20:13  <YAWNT_>anyway.. gotta ask you something.. could i eventually get one dedicated drone for 21$?
20:20:35  <harbhub>nathan7: what do you do for a living?
20:20:55  <nathan7>harbhub: Nothing.
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20:21:07  <harbhub>how do you pay for food?
20:21:11  <nathan7>harbhub: Minor detail: I am 16.88 years old.
20:21:16  <harbhub>lol
20:21:25  <AvianFlu>YAWNT_: potentially, but the dedicated stuff won't be released for a bit yet
20:21:26  <harbhub>you should become an engineer
20:21:34  <AvianFlu>TRUST ME, I'M AN ENGINEER
20:21:39  * AvianFlugoes to find that youtube video
20:21:56  <YAWNT_>AvianFlu: awesoem
20:22:05  <YAWNT_>because i can't afford the 48$ one
20:22:12  <jesusabdullah>trust me I did the BOE calculation
20:22:17  <YAWNT_>and i don't wanna stick with AppFog ( ;_;)//
20:22:18  <AvianFlu>we can talk when the stuff goes live
20:22:22  <jesusabdullah>a hojillion megapascals!
20:22:34  <AvianFlu>jesusabdullah: A HOJILLION!?
20:22:43  <YAWNT_>TWO
20:22:45  <jesusabdullah>yeah dude that shit broke months ago
20:22:54  <YAWNT_>wut
20:22:58  <YAWNT_>what shit?
20:23:08  <jesusabdullah>my old college had a machine that could test compressive strength in granite samples
20:23:13  <YAWNT_>really
20:23:14  <YAWNT_>cool
20:23:25  <jesusabdullah>which means they add more and more pressure until the rock cylinder explodes into little pieces :)
20:23:33  <YAWNT_>yeah i know what that is
20:23:36  <AvianFlu>LEET
20:23:37  <YAWNT_>it's fun
20:23:40  <jesusabdullah>hell yeah
20:23:43  <YAWNT_>glass is awesome
20:24:01  <jesusabdullah>my department had a tension strength test apparatus for like metal samples
20:24:04  <jesusabdullah>and plastics
20:24:05  <YAWNT_>just throw it on the floor
20:24:14  <YAWNT_>and it will break in a hundred pieces
20:24:15  <jesusabdullah>if you stretch plastic slow enough it won't break, it'll just like
20:24:24  <YAWNT_>but try putting weight on it little by little
20:24:25  <jesusabdullah>bubble gum into a long flimsy strand
20:24:33  <YAWNT_>and it does support a lot
20:24:34  <YAWNT_>:D
20:24:42  <jesusabdullah>yes indeed
20:24:44  <YAWNT_>fragile but hard
20:24:51  <jesusabdullah>low tolerance for impact
20:24:52  <YAWNT_>i studied that in junior high
20:25:03  <jesusabdullah>there's a test called the "charpy impact test"
20:25:30  <jesusabdullah>which is basically a sledgehammer on an axle
20:25:40  <jesusabdullah>you pull the lever and it swings down and smacks your sample at full speed
20:25:51  <YAWNT_>wait
20:25:54  <YAWNT_>dictionary time
20:25:57  <YAWNT_>sledgehammer?
20:26:12  <YAWNT_>ok
20:26:13  <YAWNT_>found it
20:26:15  <YAWNT_>thanks google
20:26:19  <jesusabdullah>haha, indeed
20:26:51  <YAWNT_>google images
20:26:51  <YAWNT_>:3
20:26:52  <YAWNT_>well actually
20:27:00  <YAWNT_>a picture is worth a thousand words
20:27:01  <YAWNT_>:D
20:28:26  <YAWNT_>Crash victim Ervin McKinness sent out a tweet minutes before he and four others were killed in a fatal crash in Ontario on Haven on Sunday morning. Posting as @ink2flashyy, he tweeted “Drunk as (expletive) going 120 drifting corners. YOLO” at 1:19am. YOLO means “You only live once.”
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20:28:38  <YAWNT_>:|
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20:29:41  <jesusabdullah>>_<
20:30:30  <YAWNT_>i don't even..
20:32:58  <harbhub>i've sautered a strength gauge onto an aluminum bar and measures its strain
20:33:00  <harbhub>o.0
20:33:40  <harbhub>I'm learning to model uncertainty in construction through statistical analysis involving the critical path method and monte carlo sampling
20:33:41  <harbhub>o.0
20:33:42  <AvianFlu>you mean 'soldered'?
20:33:52  <harbhub>however you spell it lol
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20:34:30  <harbhub><-- looks a bit foolish for that misspelling
20:35:20  <jesusabdullah>monte carlo? nice
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20:35:34  <jesusabdullah>give him a break AvianFlu he's a civvie by training ;)
20:35:36  <jesusabdullah>trololo
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20:36:11  <jesusabdullah>Someday I'll get all up in those stats
20:36:14  <jesusabdullah>write the fuck out of some R
20:36:27  <AvianFlu>I thought I was about to learn a word
20:36:30  <AvianFlu>apparently not XD
20:36:52  <jesusabdullah>do you know brazing?
20:37:10  <harbhub>civvie = civil engineer?
20:37:12  <jesusabdullah>It's like soldering but with, like copper/brass
20:37:29  <harbhub>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdDDY5nVA3A&feature=autoplay&list=PLA25B3E6062582EF7&playnext=6
20:37:39  <harbhub>relaxing music ^
20:38:19  <jesusabdullah>stronger, but still no weld
20:38:19  <jesusabdullah>ha you'll have to remind me what the critical path method is though
20:38:28  <jesusabdullah>harbhub ^^
20:38:29  <harbhub>cpm
20:38:34  <harbhub>basically
20:38:40  <harbhub>let's think of a simple example
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20:38:43  <jesusabdullah>cpm? isn't that critical path method? XD
20:38:44  <harbhub>using the deterministic method
20:38:51  <harbhub>yep
20:38:58  <harbhub>so
20:39:04  <harbhub>i want to make a website
20:39:13  <harbhub>and i know all the tasks it will involve
20:39:14  <harbhub>so
20:39:25  <harbhub>activity A = purchase domain name rights
20:39:32  <harbhub>which takes 1 day
20:39:36  <harbhub>lets keep it simple
20:39:46  <harbhub>well in construction you usually do things by day
20:39:55  <harbhub>but in our context it makes more sense to say 1 hour
20:40:02  <harbhub>to buy the domain name for the owner
20:40:09  <harbhub>acitivity B = something
20:40:11  <harbhub>and so on
20:40:25  <harbhub>some stuff depends on other stuff being done before it can start the next task
20:40:37  <harbhub>some tasks can be done in paralley
20:40:41  <harbhub>parallel
20:40:47  <harbhub>the cpm
20:40:58  <harbhub>is the activitys that MUST get done
20:41:00  <harbhub>if they dont
20:41:05  <harbhub>then it delays the duration
20:41:09  <harbhub>of completing the website
20:41:25  <harbhub>non-critical activitys have some time that they can lag
20:41:35  <harbhub>then
20:41:38  <jesusabdullah>oh, scheduling
20:41:39  <harbhub>in construction
20:41:43  <harbhub>yes
20:41:45  <harbhub>scheduling
20:41:48  <jesusabdullah>okay it's coming back to me
20:41:51  <harbhub>yep
20:41:54  <harbhub>so
20:42:09  <jesusabdullah>hmm
20:42:12  <harbhub>the reality is that you cant just say "it will take exactly 2 days to complete the pouring of this concrete"
20:42:28  <harbhub>because the are lots of things that affect productivity
20:42:32  <jesusabdullah>except the truck is there and we gotta get this shit out before it hardens
20:42:33  <harbhub>for instance, rain
20:42:39  <harbhub>lol
20:42:40  <harbhub>also
20:42:43  <jesusabdullah>holy shit it's 8:00am and the truck ain't getting younger
20:42:49  <harbhub>different crews of workers will work at different speeds
20:42:50  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: my dad was a construction superintendent
20:42:54  <harbhub>nice
20:43:01  <harbhub>i will be a project manager soon enough
20:43:04  <harbhub>because i love it
20:43:13  <jesusabdullah>I've considered being a PM
20:43:13  <harbhub>yea i said it... i love scheduling stuff
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20:43:16  <harbhub>so what?
20:43:18  <harbhub>heh
20:43:22  <harbhub>nice
20:43:23  <YAWNT_>dafuq
20:43:28  <jesusabdullah>I dig constructiony folk
20:43:30  <YAWNT_>web client starts whoising randomly
20:43:31  <YAWNT_>:|
20:43:37  <harbhub>nice
20:43:54  <harbhub>ya so since there are basically an infinite number of possible outcomes
20:44:02  <harbhub>when you have a project with 100+ activities
20:44:15  <harbhub>since each activity as a fastest and slowest and mean duration
20:44:25  <harbhub>based on recording the task
20:44:28  <harbhub>a bunch of times
20:44:38  <harbhub>then you account for that using statisticas
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20:45:12  <harbhub>and basically do some simple stuff like "oh we are 92% confident that it will take 25 days to complete the project"
20:45:45  <jesusabdullah>word
20:45:50  <harbhub>:)
20:45:58  <harbhub>that is where the monte carlo samping comes in
20:46:01  <jesusabdullah>right!
20:46:04  <jesusabdullah>naw, that makes a lot of sense
20:46:08  <harbhub>you strategically choose random samples
20:46:31  <harbhub>all with different outcomes for each individual activity
20:46:40  <harbhub>i like it anyways hehe
20:46:45  <jesusabdullah>and you can strategically choose your bids as well based on statistics of winning the bid vs. statistics of you screwing up
20:46:56  <harbhub>yes
20:47:05  <harbhub>you do not bid 20 days
20:47:19  <harbhub>if the probably of finishing in 20 days is 14%
20:47:25  <jesusabdullah>yeah, exactly
20:47:27  <harbhub>you typically go for the 95%
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20:47:56  <jesusabdullah>Yeah, I've seen different strats from different contractors
20:47:59  <harbhub>jesus: have you made an iphone app before?
20:48:06  <jesusabdullah>I have not
20:48:10  <harbhub>yep everyone has their own strat
20:48:14  <harbhub>awwwww
20:48:18  <harbhub>i want you to join our team
20:48:26  <jesusabdullah>what's your team doing?
20:48:29  <harbhub>we are making the sound clip app
20:48:32  <harbhub>you know BBM?
20:48:32  <jesusabdullah>I have a full time job and a 3d printer on the way
20:48:35  <jesusabdullah>BBM?
20:48:36  <harbhub>hehehe
20:48:39  <harbhub>aka you are busy
20:48:42  <harbhub>black berry messenger
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20:48:51  <jesusabdullah>Naw, I've never done mobile dev
20:48:54  <harbhub>you can record a sound clip, then send it to a friend
20:49:00  <jesusabdullah>someday I might get a smartphone and start messing with it
20:49:01  <harbhub>then they can just listen to it whenever
20:49:02  <jesusabdullah>I see
20:49:07  <harbhub>we are making that
20:49:08  <harbhub>for iphone
20:49:09  <jesusabdullah>have you looked at voxer at all? :)
20:49:13  <harbhub>but with extra features
20:49:15  <harbhub>yep
20:49:31  <harbhub>voxer isn't us
20:49:49  <harbhub>we are better
20:49:55  <jesusabdullah>XD
20:49:55  <harbhub>yes, i know joyent supports voxer
20:49:57  <jesusabdullah>Best of luck!
20:50:00  <harbhub>heh
20:50:01  <jesusabdullah>I mean that
20:50:10  <harbhub>we are going to be the next twitter
20:50:11  <luckysmack>i want to use nconf with a small app i am making. my app.js is the default baked flatiron file. I want to add a config/bootstrap.js file to handle bootstrapping all the needed files together. but I can seem to get it right. heres what im using: http://pastie.org/4682089
20:50:15  <jesusabdullah>The voxer guys are pretty smart, formidable opponents
20:50:27  <harbhub>smart doesn't mean much
20:50:38  <harbhub>we have smart people, too
20:50:45  <harbhub>and
20:50:47  <jesusabdullah>tell me about it
20:50:48  <harbhub>they are not opponents
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20:50:52  <harbhub>they don't do what we do
20:51:00  <harbhub>they are merely 'similar'
20:51:04  <jesusabdullah>sure, sure
20:51:15  <harbhub>we'll see how it all goes though
20:51:50  <harbhub>i want the server-side to be a nodejs server, and use rackspace for storing the sound clips
20:52:14  <harbhub>lots to be done
20:52:22  <harbhub>when does the 3d printer come in?
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21:00:04  <jesusabdullah>another week I believe
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21:11:39  <BrandonGriggs>getting ECONNREFUSED at http://knack.jit.su/
21:11:45  <Sly>Ugh..
21:14:22  <jesusabdullah>BrandonGriggs: looks up for me now :)
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21:16:14  <BrandonGriggs>hmm, i'm still showing ECONNREFUSED, is there a delay or geographic factor?
21:17:15  <jesusabdullah>BrandonGriggs: try a ctrl-f5 for hard refresh
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21:18:54  <BrandonGriggs>no change, tried another browser as well
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21:22:28  <BrandonGriggs>when are you anticipating the sofware fix having fully resolved these?
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21:24:00  <lemonad>I keep getting "socket hang up" error when trying to deploy. I figured it was the 50Mb limit but "du -h ." gives me 45M. Any ideas?
21:24:18  <Sly>jesusabdullah, BrandonGriggs's app was working for me too. Now it's not.
21:25:01  <BrandonGriggs>yeah, i'm still seeing it down and confirmed with other computer/locations
21:25:23  <AvianFlu>BrandonGriggs: I'm seeing it as up too
21:27:00  <BrandonGriggs>so you're saying nothing's wrong?
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21:27:20  <BrandonGriggs>one of my devs is saying he's seeing them randomly...sometimes it will work, sometimes seeing ECONNREFUSED
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21:29:26  <Sly>http://pastebin.com/pyC5Gp4D @ BrandonGriggs
21:29:30  <Sly>Just got those errors from your app.
21:29:49  <AvianFlu>can you guys please use curl -v to test it and let me see the output?
21:29:55  <Sly>No CONNREFUSED, though.
21:29:59  <AvianFlu>I just got a 200 from every load balancer with your app
21:30:47  <Sly>AvianFlu, it's loading for me now as well.
21:30:54  <Sly>Well, it would if there weren't 500 errors on resources.
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21:33:09  <Sly>Actually.. That's strange.
21:33:11  <Sly>BrandonGriggs, http://pastebin.com/y6T5ME4S
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21:33:17  <Sly>Are you sure it's not knackhq causing the CONNREFUSED?
21:33:56  <BrandonGriggs>that's strange, so the initial HTML is loading, but it's giving the ECONNREFUSED on other calls now?
21:34:00  <BrandonGriggs>http://api.knackhq.com/api/xdc.html?xdm_e=http%3A%2F%2Fknack.jit.su&xdm_c=default5518&xdm_p=1
21:34:06  <BrandonGriggs>is just a static asset
21:34:24  <BrandonGriggs>didn't deploy any changes, everything just stopped working
21:34:46  <Sly>That API link is the one that just gave me CONNREFUSED.
21:34:55  <Sly>Your app is actually loading on Nodejitsu.
21:36:24  <BrandonGriggs>that's just an alas to nodejitsu
21:36:46  <Sly>But if it wasn't running on Nodejitsu, you wouldn't see that API link in the page. You would just see the ECONNREFUSED error.
21:36:51  <Sly>Because your app wouldn't be outputting any HTML.
21:36:57  <BrandonGriggs>er, alias
21:37:59  <Sly>Are you sure that knackhq isn't somehow caching the app in its failed state?
21:38:21  <Sly>Not really sure what the problem is with it. O_o;
21:38:37  <Sly>Now it's loading fine on knack.jit.su.
21:38:52  <BrandonGriggs>i don't even know...i'm getting different results for different calls
21:38:53  <Sly>And your API link doesn't give an ECONNREFUSED anymore.
21:38:56  <Sly>It's definitely the API link.
21:39:15  <Sly>Most definitely the API link.
21:40:45  <BrandonGriggs>right, so what's causing this variation?
21:41:11  <Sly>Don't know. It's something on your api.knackhq.com link.
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21:41:19  <Sly>It's nothing to do with the app on knack.jit.su.
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21:41:44  <BrandonGriggs>api.knackhq.com is run from knack.jit.su...its just an alias
21:41:52  <Sly>BrandonGriggs, you're failing to see what I'm saying.
21:42:03  <AvianFlu>api.knackhq.com just gave me 200s from all 4 of the balancers it's pointed to
21:42:23  <AvianFlu>I restarted two balancers about half an hour ago, they could have previously been causing this
21:42:32  <AvianFlu>also, google chrome does its own DNS
21:42:37  <AvianFlu>independent of all system stuff
21:42:42  <AvianFlu>and caches rather aggressively
21:42:49  <Sly>Earlier, I couldn't load your page. It said ECONNREFUSED. I loaded your API link, and the ECONNREFUSED was in that link. If your knack.jit.su app wasn't running, it would have never output resources in order to load api.knackhq.com. But now when I refresh api.knackhq.com, it gives me the resources in the <head></head> like it should.
21:42:57  <Sly>So it's something to do with api.knackhq.com, not knack.jit.su.
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21:43:52  <BrandonGriggs>hopefully its a cache thing....I'm seeing api.knackhq.com return fine now
21:44:01  <Sly>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's working fine, now.
21:44:09  <Sly>But earlier, that's what was giving me the ECONNREFUSED error.
21:45:59  <BrandonGriggs>ok, everything seems to be returning fine now
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21:46:22  <BrandonGriggs>that's really frustrating.
21:46:28  <Sly>Maybe it was just a balancer fluke.
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22:07:49  <isaacs>hey, getting a host not found here: http://2012.nodeconf.com/
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22:09:39  <isaacs>nevermind, that's not a jitsu app :)
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22:44:30  <zzarcon>Hi all!
22:44:38  <zzarcon>i have a question
22:45:15  <zzarcon>How I can send an email with Node in Nodejitsu?
22:46:08  <jesusabdullah>zzarcon: many ways. I like using sendgrid's http api
22:48:03  <zzarcon>jesusabdullah: thanks for the reply i look for the docu :)
22:52:51  * mmaleckiquit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
22:54:53  <zzarcon>jesusabdullah: sendgrid's is not free
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22:57:50  <zzarcon>you know another ?
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23:06:17  <BrandonGriggs>we use http://postageapp.com/
23:06:28  <BrandonGriggs>free for a certain # and have a node module
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23:10:18  <jesusabdullah>I never said it was zzarcon XD
23:10:36  <jesusabdullah>I just said I like it
23:13:04  <zzarcon>hahaha
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23:29:59  <luckysmack>anyone willing/able to help with using nconf in flatiron? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12326644/how-to-use-nconf-with-flatiron-properly
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23:41:29  <harbhub>hey fellas
23:41:39  <blakmatrix>yo
23:42:08  <harbhub>what would you recommend for playing audio?
23:42:18  <harbhub>for a website i'm making for my friend
23:42:18  <blakmatrix>speakers
23:42:24  <harbhub>lol
23:42:31  <harbhub>i mean for the webpage
23:42:48  <blakmatrix>i've never used any node librarie to play audio
23:42:53  <harbhub>for scalability i'd like to store audio files (or just use existing stored files somewhere)
23:42:58  <harbhub>hmm
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23:43:12  <harbhub>the html5 audio wasn't really working for me
23:43:19  <harbhub>i can get the player up
23:43:28  <harbhub>but sourcing the songs was not ideal
23:43:38  <harbhub>let me search google for a sound cloud storage
23:43:40  <harbhub>maybe soundcloud
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23:46:01  <blakmatrix>jsonloops uses https://github.com/tmpvar/node-irrklang
23:46:09  <harbhub>for sound?
23:46:14  <blakmatrix>but i think that is specific
23:46:34  <harbhub>sounds specific
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23:49:31  <harbhub>i want an imgur equivalent
23:49:36  <harbhub>for storing sound files
23:49:46  <harbhub>so i can reference the url of my song
23:51:11  <blakmatrix>edgecast and many other CDNs support audio streams
23:51:25  <blakmatrix>so thats really what you're looking for
23:51:29  <blakmatrix>a CDN
23:51:50  <harbhub>cdn
23:52:01  <harbhub>yes
23:52:06  <harbhub>content delivery network
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23:53:56  <harbhub>hmm
23:54:25  <blakmatrix>edgecast, akamai, and level3 are the top ones i know of for media
23:55:13  <blakmatrix>amazon i think has one too
23:55:34  <blakmatrix>apart ofrom s3 storage
23:58:03  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: soundcloud
23:58:22  <jesusabdullah>soundcloud is like "youtube for sound"
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