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00:55:36  <coen-hyde>mmalecki: I've been redeploying in the hopes i'll get one to work. I haven't had a deploy work in a long time ~10 deploys
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01:05:34  <jaha>hello again! haha, is there anything going on with deployment atm? getting 500 errors out the wazzoo
01:05:36  <jaha>error: Error running command deploy
01:05:36  <jaha>error: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error
01:05:36  <jaha>warn: Error returned from Nodejitsu
01:05:36  <jaha>error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED
01:05:36  <jaha>error: at errnoException (net.js:768:11)
01:05:36  <jaha>error: at Object.afterConnect [as oncomplete] (net.js:759:19)
01:05:56  <jaha>(woops sry for paste)
01:06:07  <coderarity>gist.github.com
01:06:08  <coderarity>yeah
01:06:55  <jaha>https://gist.github.com/3719147
01:06:56  <jaha>thats better
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01:12:56  <jaha>get this almost everytime https://gist.github.com/3719171
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01:14:05  <jaha>i know youre working on the timeout and builds this weekend, which im fine getting the timeout error but cant seem to deploy at all now
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01:23:29  <jaha>woohoo it went through finally!
01:23:41  <jaha>not sure if anyone did anything but ill give you the credit anyway! ;)
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01:23:57  <nlognbob>'jitsu deploy' is always unreliable for me. Are you aware of these reliability problems? The problem is not just on certain days. It is always unreliable.
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01:43:05  <jaha>nlognbob: do you upload the tarballs instead?
01:43:28  <nlognbob>I don't know how to do the tarballs.
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01:43:36  <nlognbob>is there some way?
01:43:38  <jaha>ah
01:43:53  <nlognbob>can I just rcp or ftp a tarball?
01:44:19  <jaha>yea, you can upload them through the admin UI of nodejitsu.com, i forget it jitsu has a package command or if you use the npm one
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01:44:37  <nlognbob>I have a script which tries 10 deploys. It usually deploys somewhere in those 10 tries.
01:45:07  <jaha>mind gisting that script?
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01:45:34  <nlognbob>What I'm really interested is if they understand I am having problems. If they do then they will fix it, but if they don't know.... (script on the way)
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01:46:39  <nlognbob>https://gist.github.com/3719318
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01:47:37  <jaha>nlognbob: thanks
01:48:17  <nlognbob>sure. I limit to 10 tries because that seems like enough, also if you have a coding error it may never start, so no need to pound their server trying forever
01:48:31  <nlognbob>hope you find it useful
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01:56:09  <ngoldman>guys
01:56:11  <ngoldman>nodejitsu
01:56:12  <ngoldman>deploy
01:56:15  <ngoldman>what is wrong with it
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02:07:25  <sprjrx>hey guys
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02:16:02  <terite>I want to write tests using api-easy, but don't like the idea of starting the server separately. Is there a nice way to make the tests more self contained?
02:16:17  <terite>Maybe something like suite.use(flatiron.app) ...
02:18:48  <coen-hyde>terite: what i usually do when testing api's is start the application on a different port in the tests before running any tests
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02:31:52  <ngoldman>we are in a class right now
02:32:06  <ngoldman>and a bunch of people have deploy apps to nodejitsu as part of research projects
02:32:16  <ngoldman>s/deploy/deployed
02:33:01  <ngoldman>and the group presenting right now is trying to present their app and the site that is displaying is "pop basic"
02:33:07  <ngoldman>and another browser is showing another app
02:33:25  <ngoldman>this service is getting really unstable
02:33:27  <ngoldman>what's going on
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02:41:39  <sprjrx>I've been having some interesting issues with jitsu tonight as well. I think its my package dependancies primarily.
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02:52:49  <garrettwilkin>jitsu deploy just failed three time. First time, ran out of memory. 2nd and 3rd times, ECONNREFUSED
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02:58:07  <haxorjim>anyone having trouble deploying right now? I'm getting "connect ECONNREFUSED"
02:58:12  <ngoldman>garrettwilkin: same. got a socket hangup also. had to deploy 8 times before it was successful.
02:58:35  <garrettwilkin>yea I'm only up to 6 or 7 :)
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02:59:26  <ngoldman>i've been having problems on and off like this for over a month
02:59:55  <garrettwilkin>yea apparently deployment is down
03:00:07  <garrettwilkin>oh well
03:00:12  <haxorjim>at least they stay running (so far)... i was on nodester and my apps would just die
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03:01:18  <garrettwilkin>in this deploy I'm just adding a HTML file that i wanted to test
03:02:54  <garrettwilkin>since nodejitsu is creating a snapshot of the app, you'd think it could add a step to figure out what's changed. and in some cases, not recompile the whole thing?
03:03:14  <garrettwilkin>Maybe that's harder to do correctly than it is to suggest in IRC :)
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03:08:07  <sprjrx>The errors I'm getting on the jitsu deploy have been saying they are NPM Install failures (failed to install dependancies); they also say its a user error, and then at the end list an out of memory error
03:08:54  <sprjrx>I've been trying to get all my dependancies in a row, because my worker app seems to deploy just fine - just not this web one...Not sure whats going on.
03:09:52  <sprjrx>Also, after the errors if I restart it on jitsus web cp, i get another error, but then refreshing the page indicates it started fine - and my app is now running. Heh.
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03:23:53  <codeman9>getting error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED error: at errnoException (net.js:768:11) error: at Object.afterConnect [as oncomplete] (net.js:759:19)
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03:31:04  <mmalecki>looks like I passed out, things should be back up
03:35:44  <codeman9>thanks
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03:39:21  <coen-hyde>ngoldman: haha, popbasic is mine ...
03:40:47  <ngoldman>coen-hyde: a lot of students just found out about it
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03:46:34  <ngoldman>i think we might have broken bootstrapcdn
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03:51:53  <ph0n3tic>was there a new version in the last 24hrs? i keep getting ECONNREFUSED on jitsu deploy
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03:53:49  <ph0n3tic>nevermind, it seems that all is well
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05:20:12  <mnutt>I have an application that uses geoip along with the maxmind database, which is about 20MB. Is there a good place to store this file in my nodejitsu app?
05:20:38  <mnutt>when I deploy, I believe it overwrites it
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05:21:12  <pksunkara>yes, it overwrites it
05:21:32  <pksunkara>one thing, you can do is use a database
05:21:39  <pksunkara>like redis, couch, mongo etc..
05:21:47  <pksunkara>or I think you can use dropbox
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05:22:19  <mnutt>right now my app just pulls it down from the web every time, it just seems a little wasteful to do on every deploy
05:22:42  <pksunkara>our filesystem is not persistent
05:23:11  <mmalecki>meh, 20 MB should be really fast
05:23:19  <mmalecki>our drones are in a Joyent DC
05:23:24  <mmalecki>so it's 10 sec tops
05:24:20  <mnutt>it is pretty fast
05:24:30  <mnutt>maxmind just blocks it after 5 downloads or so
05:24:36  <mnutt>I may just move it to s3
05:24:51  <mnutt>thanks
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05:42:10  <chilts>mmalecki: looks like my app was down, so I did a restart, now it's a 404. Should I redeploy or try something else? (user=chilts, app=redirects)
05:42:46  <mmalecki>please do `jitsu apps start`
05:42:58  <mmalecki>I'm gonna have to pass out in a bit
05:43:03  <mmalecki>it's almost 8 AM
05:43:27  <chilts>ok
05:43:29  <chilts>An error has occurred: {"code":"EMFILE","errno":"EMFILE","syscall":"connect"}
05:43:34  <chilts>ah, alright - you head off :)
05:43:48  <chilts>I can ping someone else ... who's on support at the moment?
05:44:03  <chilts>I did a start, but yeah, get that message
05:44:13  <chilts>pksunkara: are you able to help?
05:44:29  <pksunkara>chilts: can you restart again?
05:44:39  <mmalecki>this should be fixed in few seconds
05:44:43  <chilts>ok
05:45:01  <chilts>restarted fine - thanks :)
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05:48:13  <mdedetrich>@mmalecki: I hit a bad drone again
05:48:21  <mdedetrich>@mmalecki: can u have a look at it
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05:52:58  <mmalecki>blakmatrix: coderarity ^
05:53:01  <mmalecki>I'm passing out
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06:26:05  <deoxxa>http://i.qkme.me/3qwks7.jpg amirite
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06:42:29  <nathan7>deoxxa: why the bee?
06:44:22  <wibuni>drones?;)
06:45:27  <pksunkara>lol
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07:02:52  <Digitalrox>How do you include the nowjs into your app. I'm getting this error "Cannot find module './express/lib/express.js'"
07:04:33  <Digitalrox>If i use var nowjs = require("now"); i'm getting the same error. This works locally good.
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07:28:40  <deoxxa>wibuni: bingo :P
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07:51:51  <jetienne>hi
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07:52:51  <terite>Using api-easy, I want to mix in normal vows tests to call .use for subsequent batches.
07:52:53  <terite>For example: https://gist.github.com/3720607
07:55:29  <terite>The .use is not carrying over into the api-easy tests though. What am I missing?
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07:58:04  <terite>is this the most appropriate channel for flatiron related questions
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08:44:48  <yawnt>hellow
08:44:55  <lpin>hey
08:45:48  <jetienne>hi
08:46:17  <yawnt>sup
08:49:19  <coderarity>hi
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08:54:07  <yawnt>baww
08:54:12  <yawnt>gotta go swimming :(
08:54:30  <lpin>what? 15° C here
08:54:49  <yawnt>inside pool
08:54:57  <lpin>ah ok
08:55:01  <lpin>summer's over
08:55:02  <lpin>:|
08:55:03  <yawnt>i promised to myself i'd have gone swimming every two days
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08:55:16  <yawnt>i did fine for the first month
08:55:19  <coderarity>it was 100 degrees a few days ago
08:55:25  <yawnt>now it's starting to get annoying
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08:55:34  <yawnt>i feel like a gold fish in a bowl
08:55:41  <lpin>ahah
08:55:48  <yawnt>i love swimming, but pool is just so boring lol
08:56:02  <yawnt>i should probably buy waterproof headsets
08:56:05  <yawnt>that should help a bit
08:56:21  <yawnt>*IT'S THE EYE OF THE TIGER IT'S THE THRILL OF THE FIGHT*
08:56:28  <yawnt>*RISING UP...é
08:56:33  <yawnt>**
08:56:41  <yawnt>i would swim 3x faster
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08:59:16  <eralha>hello what is this mean? An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
08:59:31  <coderarity>eralha: in the web browser?
08:59:35  <eralha>yap
08:59:49  <coderarity>eralha: check `jitsu logs`
08:59:57  <eralha>http://e-ralha.nodejitsu.com/loby
09:01:25  <coderarity>eralha: what's your username/app name?
09:01:57  <eralha>e-ralha / first-jitsu-app
09:02:09  <eralha>i restarted the app and it still presist
09:02:18  <eralha>i see a sql error in the logs
09:02:26  <eralha>but...
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09:03:55  <eralha>coderarity its working
09:04:02  <eralha>stop and star the app
09:04:03  <coderarity>alrigh
09:04:17  <coderarity>eralha: you can just `jitsu start`
09:04:37  <coderarity>eralha: your app stopped responding to requests, so there may be something in your code that's causing that
09:04:40  <eralha>this kind of error is generated by user code right?
09:04:45  <coderarity>eralha: sounds like it's that sql error
09:04:49  <eralha>ok i will check
09:04:50  <coderarity>yeah
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09:09:41  <coderarity>brb, walmart
09:09:52  <coderarity>also potentially escaping before my house becomes a war zone
09:09:58  <yawnt>brb, swimming
09:10:00  <yawnt>later guys
09:10:03  <coderarity>c ya
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09:28:18  <tralamaz>gist https://gist.github.com/3720487
09:28:22  <tralamaz>sorry miss
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10:33:27  <yawnt>damn that felt good
10:33:40  <yawnt>it might be boring but after swimming you feel great
10:33:41  <yawnt>:D
10:33:52  <coderarity>:P
10:34:07  <yawnt>also found out i had two wasps on my shirt
10:34:07  * RLajoined
10:34:09  <coderarity>yawnt: i think people do make swimming music things, btw :D
10:34:27  <yawnt>yeah they do.. it's like 100$ for a mp3 and headphones though
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10:34:50  <yawnt>they must've got there while i was riding the motorbike
10:34:58  <yawnt>but I KILLED THEM, such a cruel monster i am
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10:36:06  <coderarity>yawnt: YOU COULD HAVE JUST WALKED AWAY MAN
10:36:13  <coderarity>:P
10:36:14  <yawnt>yeah
10:36:20  <yawnt>and leave my tshirt to them
10:36:29  <yawnt>my beautiful jack n jones rocky balboa tshirt
10:36:29  <yawnt>NEVER
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10:52:42  <yawnt>coderarity: i got a bottle of Dr Pepper!!!
10:52:49  <coderarity>:O
10:52:50  <yawnt>friends from UK arrived D:
10:52:51  <coderarity>i have 2
10:52:53  <yawnt>..
10:52:55  <yawnt>...
10:52:55  <coderarity>lol
10:53:05  <deoxxa>i have a can of japanese dr pepper
10:53:09  <yawnt>it was ME who made that oven burn
10:53:20  <yawnt>unfortunately it looks like you survived
10:53:22  <yawnt>>.<
10:53:23  <deoxxa>do i win the dr pepper competition
10:53:26  <coderarity>lol
10:53:33  <yawnt>there i no dr pepper competion deoxxa
10:53:35  <mdedetrich>i am back
10:53:36  <yawnt>back to your camera.
10:53:39  <yawnt>nao
10:53:39  <mdedetrich>and sexier then ever
10:53:47  <deoxxa>:<
10:53:55  <yawnt>i wonder how i've lived til now without knowing that mdedetrich
10:54:08  <mdedetrich>me too!
10:54:41  <mdedetrich>so how is everyone
10:54:52  <yawnt>oh well
10:54:55  <yawnt>someone is about to die
10:54:57  <yawnt>right coderarity ?
10:54:58  <yawnt>>:(
10:55:50  <yawnt>deoxxa: just kidding, just kidding, you win.. here.. have this japanese emoticon ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ
10:56:17  <deoxxa>yey
10:56:25  <yawnt>i have more
10:56:28  <deoxxa>i win all the dr peppers
10:56:35  <yawnt>no way
10:56:38  <yawnt>i just got mine
10:56:42  <yawnt>after years of starvation
10:56:44  <deoxxa>i also have japanese grape mountain dew
10:56:48  <yawnt>i'd rather die than let you have it
10:56:51  <yawnt>bleah
10:56:56  <deoxxa>hey it's awesome
10:56:56  <yawnt>grape mountain dew?
10:57:03  <yawnt>it must suck horribly
10:57:08  <yawnt>mountain dew is okay
10:57:11  <yawnt>but grape? please
10:57:12  <deoxxa>noooo way man
10:57:13  <deoxxa>it's good
10:57:15  <yawnt>sure
10:57:16  <deoxxa>you're bad
10:57:17  <deoxxa>you suck horribly
10:57:18  <deoxxa>:<
10:57:18  <yawnt>well
10:57:20  <yawnt>:(
10:57:32  * deoxxahugs mountain dew
10:57:34  * yawntgoes to the psychologist
10:57:38  <deoxxa>lol
10:57:45  <yawnt>HE SAYS I'M JUST SPECIAL
10:57:55  <deoxxa>i'm kind of a big fan of moutain dew though
10:57:58  <yawnt>me too
10:58:02  <yawnt>but not the grape one
10:58:08  <deoxxa>looking around, i see three bottles
10:58:16  <deoxxa>one of which i'm currently drinking from
10:58:21  <deoxxa>the others are empty ;-;
10:58:22  <yawnt>one of which
10:58:24  <yawnt>i've poisoned
10:58:27  <yawnt>let's play a game
10:58:30  <coderarity>everything is better with grabe
10:58:31  <deoxxa>oh noooo
10:58:33  <coderarity>grape*
10:58:44  <deoxxa>well i've already finished two of them and i'm partway into the third, yawnt
10:58:49  <deoxxa>i guess i'm just kind of screwed
10:58:56  <deoxxa>might as well enjoy it while i can
10:59:02  <yawnt>o(`ω´*)o
10:59:11  <deoxxa>unless you poisoned an empty one
10:59:14  <deoxxa>in which case... ok
10:59:17  <yawnt>oh
10:59:24  <yawnt>that's why it was so light
10:59:25  <yawnt>dammit
10:59:29  <deoxxa>tch
10:59:37  <yawnt>i didn't have your spider camera that can see when it's dark
10:59:40  <yawnt>so i had to guess
10:59:41  <yawnt>:(
10:59:57  <yawnt>lol
11:00:02  <yawnt>two messages in two minutes
11:00:02  <deoxxa>haha
11:00:10  <deoxxa>spider camera
11:00:11  <yawnt>"coming home early, start cooking..."
11:00:17  <yawnt>"lost the bust, dont cook"
11:00:19  <yawnt>*bus
11:00:21  <deoxxa>lol
11:00:31  <yawnt>funny fact is
11:00:34  <yawnt>i read them both right know
11:00:39  <yawnt>so i was like
11:00:42  <deoxxa>"oh crap"
11:00:44  <deoxxa>"oh yay"
11:00:44  <yawnt>"GOTTACOOK-NOWAIT"
11:00:47  <yawnt>yeah
11:00:48  <yawnt>exactly
11:00:48  <yawnt>lol
11:00:49  <yawnt>BUT
11:00:50  <yawnt>BUT
11:00:53  <yawnt>i already have cooked
11:00:57  <deoxxa>oh noooo
11:01:01  <yawnt>they just don't know it yet
11:01:02  <deoxxa>now you have to throw it out
11:01:05  <yawnt>no
11:01:07  <yawnt>it's frozen
11:01:12  <yawnt>i just have to de-frost it
11:01:16  <deoxxa>you must be really bad at cooking
11:01:18  <yawnt>microwaves to rescue
11:01:21  <yawnt>:|
11:01:24  <yawnt>;_;
11:01:26  <deoxxa>usually food ends up like
11:01:26  <deoxxa>warm
11:01:28  <deoxxa>not frozen
11:01:34  <deoxxa>you're doing cooking wrong
11:01:41  <yawnt>tell that to an ice-cream man
11:01:49  <yawnt>HA
11:01:51  <yawnt>CHECKMATE
11:02:02  <deoxxa>that's not cooking, silly
11:02:08  <yawnt>but
11:02:09  <yawnt>but
11:02:12  <yawnt>anyway
11:02:15  <yawnt>it's not really frozen
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11:02:22  <deoxxa>you lied!
11:02:23  <yawnt>because it's a soup
11:02:30  <yawnt>it's just dead cold in the refrigerator
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11:02:36  <deoxxa>oh
11:02:48  <yawnt>i still have to warm it with a microwave though
11:03:04  <yawnt>i wonder why a guy starred my cdnjs fork
11:03:11  <yawnt>._.
11:03:24  <deoxxa>because it's fabulous
11:03:42  <yawnt>yeah
11:03:48  <deoxxa>(*´▽`*)
11:03:54  <yawnt>IS THIS A WAR?
11:04:01  <coderarity>that's basically cooking
11:04:10  <yawnt>凸(`⌒´メ)凸
11:04:24  <coderarity>so many squares that it hurts
11:04:30  <coderarity>your UTF-8 is not welcome here
11:04:41  <yawnt>coderarity: it's your utf8 that's broken
11:04:44  <yawnt>i have en_US.utf-8
11:04:50  <yawnt>sorry.
11:04:58  <yawnt>WOP WOP WOP
11:05:08  <yawnt>└(★o★)┐
11:05:14  <yawnt>┌(★o☆)┘
11:05:20  <deoxxa>don't make me dig emoticons out of twitter
11:05:24  <deoxxa>i'll do it
11:05:27  <yawnt>deoxxa: i will still overpower you
11:05:33  <yawnt>http://www.japaneseemoticons.net/all-japanese-emoticons/
11:05:34  <yawnt>OH NOES
11:05:38  <yawnt>I PASTED THE SOURCE OF MY POWER
11:06:05  <deoxxa>(´(ェ)`)
11:06:10  <yawnt>lol
11:06:20  <yawnt>'nuff
11:06:21  <yawnt>i won
11:06:30  <yawnt><(^_^<)<(^_^<)
11:06:39  <booyaa>hahaha
11:06:44  <booyaa>we haz you
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11:06:55  <yawnt>i haz also an hola
11:06:59  <yawnt>\o\ o o o o
11:07:02  <yawnt>o \o\ o o o
11:07:05  <yawnt>o o \o\ o o
11:07:08  <yawnt>o o o \o\ o
11:07:12  <yawnt>etc etc
11:07:14  <booyaa>hahah
11:07:25  <booyaa>i used to right annoying flood scripts like that ;)
11:07:29  <yawnt>it's funnier when you print it with \r
11:07:29  <booyaa>many moons ago
11:07:34  <booyaa>lawlz
11:07:35  <yawnt>looks like it's actually moving
11:07:36  <yawnt>:(
11:07:51  <booyaa>anyone remember irc scripts like toolz? sKripts?
11:07:54  <dscape>guys like chill
11:07:54  <dscape>:P
11:08:03  <booyaa>yo dscapist
11:08:08  <dscape>hey
11:08:09  <dscape>gtg
11:08:11  <dscape>lunch time :D
11:08:12  <yawnt>lol
11:08:13  <booyaa>ciao
11:08:18  <yawnt>cya dscape
11:08:29  <yawnt>booyaa: i first joined irc in 2009
11:08:33  <yawnt>so no, i don't know those scripts
11:08:34  <yawnt>:(
11:08:37  <booyaa>ah :(
11:08:42  <coderarity>i have an important question - is breakfast the morning meal or the meal when you wake up?
11:08:43  * booyaawas using irc in '93
11:08:51  <coderarity>if it's the former i'm having pizza for breakfast
11:08:51  <yawnt>i actually didn't have the net until 2007
11:08:53  <yawnt>#truestory
11:08:58  <AvianFlu>coderarity: it's the meal when you break your evening fast
11:09:02  <deoxxa>heyyy same here yawnt
11:09:09  <AvianFlu>so it only refers to ceasing to not eat
11:09:15  * yawntpats deoxxa's back
11:09:17  <yawnt>i know that feel bro
11:09:24  <booyaa>AvianFlu++ # 'ledge
11:09:24  <kohai>AvianFlu has 147 gently-stirred manhattans
11:09:40  <coderarity>oh, then i had enchiladas for breakfast, i guess that's cooler anyways
11:09:45  <yawnt>lol
11:10:01  <yawnt>btw AvianFlu that's kind of a recursive definition
11:10:06  <yawnt>how do you define supper then?
11:10:08  <coderarity>being nocturnal has been a very confusing experience, :P
11:10:32  <yawnt>i need to eat something
11:10:35  <yawnt>i'm starving
11:10:46  <coderarity>booyaa: i was born n 93, so like, you might have been using IRC on my birthday
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11:11:38  <booyaa>coderarity: hahaha prolly
11:11:41  <yawnt>i was born in 93 as well
11:11:49  <coderarity>yawnt: what month?
11:11:53  <yawnt>january, 5th
11:12:05  <coderarity>oh, that makes you like 9 months older than me, :\
11:12:14  <yawnt>booyaa: i'm eating cheese, made with goat milk and black pepper
11:12:22  <booyaa>sadly didn't have screen yet, there was ttysnoop but i don't know if i could've rigged it to work the same way
11:12:27  <yawnt>that's what i usually eat.. not that kraft stuff i showed you
11:12:33  <booyaa>yawnt: beautiful man
11:12:36  <yawnt>i know
11:12:42  <yawnt>tastes delicious
11:12:43  <yawnt>:Q_
11:12:49  <booyaa>yawnt: you can keep your cheese eater license
11:12:53  <yawnt>thank you
11:13:01  <yawnt>one year
11:13:09  <yawnt>businnessman from NY came here
11:13:12  <coderarity>booyaa: but there was scrollback, right? i hate not having scrollback
11:13:13  <yawnt>and bought the whole stock
11:13:20  <yawnt>because he needed it for a restaurant in NY
11:13:27  <yawnt>i had to stay an entire year without it
11:13:31  <yawnt>:'(
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11:13:48  <booyaa>coderarity: oh hell yeah man, everyone was logging at the time
11:13:56  <booyaa>i used to frequent shady channels
11:14:01  <yawnt>lol
11:14:05  <yawnt>#h4x0r5
11:14:05  <booyaa>there was always feds loggnig
11:14:16  <yawnt>so you could ask them for logs
11:14:17  <yawnt>hahahaha
11:14:19  <booyaa>totes
11:14:36  <yawnt>the best irc chan i've ever been on
11:14:39  <yawnt>was #anonops
11:14:43  <booyaa>heh
11:14:47  <yawnt>lots of people saying bullshit
11:14:48  <yawnt>feds
11:14:56  <yawnt>and journalists trying to get the next big story
11:14:59  <booyaa>in my days we used to call them narcs
11:15:02  <booyaa>which i find funny
11:15:09  <booyaa>because these were leet hax0rs
11:15:12  <booyaa>not drug cartels
11:15:26  <booyaa>mind you narcs were informants too
11:15:33  <yawnt>the only l337 h4x0r5 i know
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11:15:45  <yawnt>are long retired and work in the it sec for microsoft etc
11:16:04  <yawnt>actually i know like a couple of them.. not like a long list :P
11:16:31  <yawnt>coderarity: wait
11:16:36  <yawnt>if you're 9 months younger
11:16:41  <yawnt>you're having birthday this month
11:16:43  <yawnt>aren't you?
11:16:56  <booyaa>partay at coderarity!
11:17:01  <coderarity>next month
11:17:05  <yawnt>cool
11:17:06  <booyaa>don't forget to tell facebook so we can gate crash the shit out of it!
11:17:07  <coderarity>october 22
11:17:10  <yawnt>really?
11:17:10  <booyaa>the whole internets
11:17:11  <yawnt>lol
11:17:16  <coderarity>yeah
11:17:22  <yawnt>a really close friend of mine has birthday that day
11:17:27  <yawnt>world is such a small place
11:17:33  <booyaa>;)
11:18:06  <mmalecki>birthday paradox
11:18:10  <yawnt>hai mmalecki
11:18:16  <mmalecki>this is how it's called :)
11:18:27  <yawnt>really? i didn't know that
11:18:28  <yawnt>cool
11:18:47  <mmalecki>it's like, when you know 25 people
11:19:03  <mmalecki>there's over 50 % chance that 2 of them will end up having birthday on the same day
11:19:10  <yawnt>oh yeah i know that
11:19:14  <yawnt>but still it's cool
11:19:26  <coderarity>that's because no one is born in the summer
11:19:27  <yawnt>because he's the first one i know of
11:19:36  <yawnt>that has birthday that day
11:19:45  <yawnt>(of the people i know the birthday)
11:21:42  <wibuni>:) and i'm really 9 month older than yawnt (and a few years :D)
11:22:06  <yawnt>haha
11:24:11  <wibuni>orly? NYC will ban XXL cola drinks?:D
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11:24:48  <yawnt>so i've heard
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11:25:26  <mmalecki>I saw the news and a photo
11:25:31  <wibuni>thats useful as forbidding big packs of aspirin...
11:25:39  <mmalecki>I mean, how the fuck can someone drink that much anyway
11:25:46  <yawnt>wibuni: not really
11:25:54  <yawnt>i mean half a liter of cola
11:26:13  <yawnt>has something like > 50 gr of sugar
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11:26:46  <yawnt>people will just stick to the smaller version
11:26:48  <wibuni>you colud drink coke zero?:P
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11:26:56  <yawnt>instead of buying twice the beverage
11:27:13  <yawnt>coke zero sucks :P
11:29:52  <wibuni>they should better forbid amazon prime. runs dry my bank account!
11:30:34  <mmalecki>I mean, if you want to get fat you'll end up fat anyway
11:30:47  <mmalecki>so I don't really see how forbidding that would work
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11:47:27  <coderarity>don't drink coke zero, coke zero cherry actually tastes good
11:47:40  <coderarity>i drink cherry coke zero because it tastes better than soda with sugar
11:48:09  <yawnt>but but
11:48:13  <yawnt>dr pepper > cherry coke
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11:49:04  <coderarity>i like diet dr pepper too
11:49:21  <coderarity>some drinks just taste better diet
11:49:25  <deoxxa>there's cherry dr pepper
11:49:29  <deoxxa>seems kind of redundant
11:49:43  <coderarity>there's diet cherry-vanilla dr pepper, which is the best soda on the planet
11:49:48  <wibuni>coke zero cherry. woot? isn't available in Germany!
11:50:04  <coderarity>well, if you're in germany you have good fanta
11:50:08  <coderarity>soda problem? solved
11:51:35  <deoxxa>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_availability_of_Fanta another case where japan wins the gold medal for variety
11:52:02  <yawnt>yeah but you live in australia
11:52:03  <yawnt>:>
11:52:23  <deoxxa>i know :<
11:52:47  <yawnt>really?
11:52:48  <deoxxa>hm, they don't have all of them there
11:52:49  <yawnt>moo moo white?
11:52:52  <yawnt>what's that?
11:52:57  <yawnt>honey lemon?
11:52:58  <coderarity>US has the most i think
11:53:00  <yawnt>i don't even..
11:53:06  <deoxxa>haha it was weird
11:53:13  <deoxxa>it was yoghurt flavoured, i think
11:53:14  <deoxxa>i had it once
11:53:23  <yawnt>...
11:53:37  <yawnt>also i feel like my productivity has increased by a 50%
11:53:42  <yawnt>alias ..='cd ..'
11:53:50  <yawnt>this is so useful
11:53:55  <coderarity>honey lemon is listed twice
11:53:57  <coderarity>i'm gonna fix that
11:54:12  <deoxxa>but yawnt, it has karushiumu
11:54:34  <yawnt>what's that?
11:54:44  <deoxxa>(calcium)
11:55:00  <yawnt>lol
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12:17:38  <eralha>coderarity im having dificulties deploying my app
12:17:57  <eralha>ECONNREFUSED
12:18:40  <eralha>mmalecki
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12:34:58  <jeffrg>i'm doing a deploy and getting the following error: memory buffer routines:BUF_MEM_grow_clean:malloc failure:../deps/openssl/openssl/crypto/buffer/buffer.c:169
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12:39:40  <mmalecki>jeffrg: oh wow. can you paste me whole jitsu log?
12:41:02  <jeffrg>mmalecki sure hang on
12:41:35  <deoxxa>ooh, a new error
12:41:55  <jeffrg>ζ coordel-app: jitsu deploy
12:41:55  <jeffrg>info: Welcome to Nodejitsu
12:41:57  <jeffrg>info: It worked if it ends with Nodejitsu ok
12:41:58  <jeffrg>info: Executing command deploy
12:42:00  <jeffrg>info: skipping require-analyzer because noanalyze option is set
12:42:01  <jeffrg>warn: Creating new snapshot for version 0.1.0-90
12:42:03  <jeffrg>info: Done creating snapshot 0.1.0-90
12:42:04  <jeffrg>error: Error running command deploy
12:42:05  <jeffrg>error: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error
12:42:06  <jeffrg>error: 1:error:07069041:memory buffer routines:BUF_MEM_grow_clean:malloc failure:../deps/openssl/openssl/crypto/buffer/buffer.c:169:
12:42:20  <jeffrg>mmalecki is that what you want?
12:46:23  <mmalecki>jeffrg: yeah
12:46:30  <mmalecki>I don't even know what to say...
12:46:55  <mmalecki>jeffrg: what's the appname?
12:47:01  <jeffrg>coordel-app
12:47:16  <wibuni>why do you skip require-analyzer? does it say any error?
12:47:58  <jeffrg>i skip it because i was running into redis issues
12:48:04  <jeffrg>i'll try turning it on
12:48:16  <mmalecki>interesting, there's no core file
12:48:18  <mmalecki>mind trying again?
12:48:26  <mmalecki>I restarted the API
12:48:27  <jeffrg>redis is now a bundled dependency, so it won't matter any more
12:50:14  <wibuni>mmalecki: one of the 5 commands? :D
12:50:49  <nathan7>banananana
12:50:58  <deoxxa>fruitman
12:51:14  <nathan7>deoxxa++
12:51:15  <kohai>deoxxa has 5 beers
12:53:02  <mmalecki>wibuni: forever restart 0, yeah ;)
12:58:40  <yawnt>wat
12:58:43  <yawnt>only 5 beers?
12:58:44  <yawnt>deoxxa: ++
12:58:44  <kohai>deoxxa has 6 beers
12:59:20  <yawnt>there.. i've implemented the love button in my project :3
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13:05:00  <aeu>is meteor framework supported on nodejitsu ?
13:05:36  <mmalecki>if it's node than it is supported, yeah
13:06:28  <deoxxa>it uses some other stupid build process
13:06:34  <deoxxa>i.e. not quite npm
13:06:46  <aeu>when I jitsu deploy todos example from meteor I get Cannot find module './src/fibers' error ?
13:07:49  <AvianFlu>aeu: meteor won't work
13:07:58  <AvianFlu>and you shouldn't use it
13:08:00  <AvianFlu>it's not really node
13:08:03  <AvianFlu>and it's terribly put together
13:08:13  <AvianFlu>it's gonna fall on its face, hard, as soon as you see any real load
13:08:45  <aeu>?
13:09:16  <deoxxa>it's really quite horrible
13:09:43  <yawnt>^
13:09:47  <yawnt>agreed
13:09:55  <deoxxa>it's a cool idea, but it's going to be a long time before someone(s) gets it right
13:09:59  <yawnt>it was quite a nice idea back in the alpha
13:10:07  <yawnt>when it was called skyrocket
13:10:08  <deoxxa>think about how badly web frameworks sucked back in the mid 90s
13:10:21  <deoxxa>but now they're nice, ~20 years later
13:10:34  <AvianFlu>meteor takes node, throws away npm, and throws away the concurrency model
13:10:44  <yawnt>but it turned out to be a language that has vague legacies with node
13:10:45  <AvianFlu>and uses a very clunky coroutines implementation
13:10:56  <yawnt>it uses node-fibers
13:10:58  <yawnt>amirite?
13:10:58  <AvianFlu>built on the slowest backend available in the coroutine library
13:11:01  <deoxxa>yeah
13:11:04  <AvianFlu>yawnt: yeah
13:11:16  <deoxxa>guy at work wanted to use fibers a while back
13:11:20  <yawnt>bah
13:11:24  <AvianFlu>fibers is a giant mess
13:11:25  <yawnt>i don't see the point really
13:11:30  <deoxxa>had to argue with him every day for a couple of months explaining why it wasn't a great idea
13:11:33  <deoxxa>:<
13:11:34  <AvianFlu>it's big fat awkward threads hacked into v8
13:11:40  <yawnt>lol
13:11:51  <yawnt>btw ionmonkey was officially announced
13:11:53  <AvianFlu>node doesn't "need threads"
13:11:55  <yawnt>can't wait to see the speedup
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13:12:02  <AvianFlu>some *things* might need threads
13:12:08  <AvianFlu>but then you should ditch node, not hack threads into node
13:13:06  <deoxxa>hahahaha
13:13:14  <yawnt>i read quite an interesting post on hacker news
13:13:20  <deoxxa>first search suggestion for "meteorjs": "meteor js coffeescript"
13:13:25  <deoxxa>lol'd
13:13:33  <yawnt>they were explaining why node's concurrency model is deeply wrong
13:13:43  <yawnt>let's see if i find it out
13:14:08  <yawnt>http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4495101
13:14:10  <booyaa>is hacker news still considered a top news source? or are you cool kids reading something under the radar
13:14:22  <booyaa>it's kinda getting trollastic for me
13:14:27  <booyaa>thought i was on 4chan
13:14:37  <deoxxa>booyaa: i read it on my way to/from work, but i definitely don't read every article like i used to
13:14:38  <AvianFlu>hacker news is a bad joke
13:14:45  <jeffrg>mmaleki got it deployed. not sure what that was?
13:14:46  <yawnt>i'm like deoxxa
13:14:56  <yawnt>there's some interesting stuff once in a while
13:15:04  <yawnt>and i'm open to discussions
13:15:26  <yawnt>i mean.. if someone says "hey node is shit" i wanna hear their arguments.. perhaps i'm the one who's getting all wrogn
13:15:29  <yawnt>*wrong
13:15:36  <deoxxa>mmm
13:15:38  <yawnt>but usually it's just a bunch of failed trolls
13:15:38  <mmalecki>jeffrg: neither am I... looks like it was the API server running out of memory, but nothing like that actually happened and I found no core file
13:15:42  <mmalecki>so, wtf
13:15:50  <mmalecki>but yeah, welcome to node.js in production!
13:15:54  <yawnt>lol
13:15:57  <tralamaz>is not that node doesn't need threads, is that every time it needs, you use libuv
13:15:59  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: it's probably that random 450MB thing the voxer guys have been seeing
13:16:13  <mmalecki>yeah
13:16:22  <deoxxa>450MB thing?
13:16:34  <mmalecki>but like, that thing was different
13:16:38  <mmalecki>and resulted in a core
13:16:39  <AvianFlu>yeah
13:16:44  <AvianFlu>this was a bad alloc inside openSSL
13:16:51  <mmalecki>deoxxa: shit breaks when you exceed 450 MB of v8 heap
13:16:58  <AvianFlu>but only sometimes
13:17:00  <AvianFlu>and only with heavy ssl
13:17:01  <deoxxa>really :/
13:17:02  <mmalecki>yeah
13:17:03  <deoxxa>ah
13:17:52  <yawnt>that's weird
13:18:05  <mmalecki>well, once again, my name is Maciej and this is node.js in production
13:18:19  <mmalecki>kinda like jackass
13:18:19  <deoxxa>tune in next week for more!
13:18:21  <mmalecki>but more badass
13:18:24  <jeffrg>love it
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13:18:42  <deoxxa>woo, http://block.fm/play/ TCY radio is on
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13:18:59  <yawnt>lol
13:19:27  <yawnt>mmalecki: until i see you coding on a giant cart
13:19:30  <yawnt>jackass > *
13:19:31  <yawnt>:P
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13:19:43  <yawnt>*giant shopping cart rolling down the hill
13:19:56  <deoxxa>> hi i'm mmalecki and this is "the callback"
13:20:01  <AvianFlu>lol
13:20:03  <mmalecki>yawnt: if we can get a giant shopping cart and a hill in Lisbon...
13:20:05  <AvianFlu>call-in node.js show
13:20:10  <deoxxa>haha
13:20:13  <deoxxa>that'd be win
13:20:19  <AvianFlu>GET SKATEBOARDS AND SAVE YOURSELVES THE TROUBLE
13:20:24  <AvianFlu>deoxxa: might have to do that
13:20:33  <yawnt>mmalecki: lisbon has lots of hills afaik
13:20:40  <yawnt>at least it appeared so in the pics
13:20:46  <yawnt>we just need a giant shopping cart
13:20:49  <mmalecki>dscape: get us a huge shopping car, would you
13:20:55  <yawnt>we could ask tmpvar to solder one
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13:21:08  <deoxxa>so many node errors could be jackass tricks
13:21:09  <mmalecki>tmpvar: solder us a huge shopping car, would you?
13:21:18  <tralamaz>for lxjs?
13:21:19  <yawnt>*intelligent huge shopping car
13:21:23  <yawnt>like with arduino and stuff
13:21:24  <yawnt>:D
13:21:28  <mmalecki>tralamaz: yeah
13:21:28  <yawnt>*cart
13:21:33  <mmalecki>it's like
13:21:36  <mmalecki>very important
13:21:37  <deoxxa>"the broken pipe" could be awesome
13:21:48  <yawnt>deoxxa: are you seriously thinking of episode names?
13:21:49  <yawnt>lol
13:21:49  <mmalecki>well, lulz, why do I keep saying "car" XD ?
13:21:53  <deoxxa>"the socket hangup"
13:21:57  <yawnt>lol
13:21:58  <yawnt>we lost him
13:22:00  <deoxxa>yawnt: yes... >_>
13:22:23  <yawnt>deoxxa: how bout "back from the callback hell"
13:22:28  <yawnt>which is the sequel of "the callback"
13:22:28  <deoxxa>haha
13:22:39  <yawnt>also "pyramid of doom"
13:22:58  <yawnt>and "spaghetti code rises"
13:23:39  <deoxxa>i want the callback to be someone shouting into a megaphone that's pointed at their own face
13:24:00  <deoxxa>the broken pipe could involve a fire hose of some kind
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13:24:21  <deoxxa>i don't think i want to describe what i'm thinking of for "the unit test"
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14:12:23  <nvoyager>I'm getting an "ECONNREFUSED", can someone help me troubleshoot this issue? Thanks https://gist.github.com/3722105
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14:29:25  <jetienne>q. is there a xhr emulation on node.js ?
14:30:07  <mmalecki>nvoyager: please try again
14:31:12  <nvoyager>mmalecki: same thing
14:32:00  <mmalecki>nvoyager: what's the username and appname?
14:32:20  <nvoyager>username: hidef
14:32:20  <nvoyager>appname: divtest
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14:35:20  <garrettwilkin>mmalecki: whats causing the "out of memory" issues during compilation during deployment? Why is it running out of memory? just curious
14:35:50  <mmalecki>garrettwilkin: node-gyp tends to use too much memory, sometimes up to 100 MB
14:35:59  <mmalecki>only on SmartOS tho >.<
14:36:07  <garrettwilkin>oooh
14:36:24  <garrettwilkin>so the drone has to run on a smart machine with >100MB
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14:36:37  <mmalecki>we have 256 MB
14:36:54  <garrettwilkin>but then you have multiple drones on a machine?
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14:37:07  <mmalecki>nope, there's one drone per machine
14:37:44  <mmalecki>nvoyager: can you please try now?
14:37:50  <mmalecki>there were few slow servers in the pool
14:38:19  <garrettwilkin>mmalecki: what do you think of this pull request for jitsu - add a --srsly parameter that means keep attempting to deploy until it works
14:38:35  <mmalecki>garrettwilkin: we're going to solve this once for all this weekedn
14:38:38  <mmalecki>*weekend
14:38:42  <mmalecki>there's a thing we need to test
14:38:50  <mmalecki>but for now it's running fine
14:39:01  <mmalecki>we just need to flip the switch :)
14:40:30  <nvoyager>mmalecki: That error is now fixed, but I'm still getting a 'socket hang up' error https://gist.github.com/3722303
14:40:32  <garrettwilkin>once and for all! vanquished!
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14:41:46  <sppericat>Hello everybody !!!!
14:41:53  <garrettwilkin>talk like a pirate day is coming up. I posted a version of the programmmableweb blog, with @sh1mmer's pirate conversion JS script on my jitsu… to make sure it worked. http://hackerclub.jit.su/tlapd2012.html
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15:04:39  <yawnt>ipv4 are over in europe
15:05:05  <jetienne>ipv4 are over since 92 :)
15:05:18  <jetienne>20years ago...
15:05:34  <yawnt>i mean.. they distributed the last batch
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15:06:12  <jetienne>and ipv6 is ready since 2000 or so
15:06:20  <jetienne>what can we learn from that ?
15:06:35  <jetienne>"do not break backward compatibility"
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15:08:27  <tralamaz>you should watch Vint Cerf talking about history of tcp/ipv4, it's hilarious
15:08:56  <jetienne>serf did good on tcp
15:08:59  <jetienne>cerf
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15:13:10  <jetienne>the fun part is that it is possible to stay compatible and increase address space :)
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15:15:26  <yawnt>i find it pretty fast ^^
15:15:34  <wibuni>wtf? i add 2 lines of code to my testsuite. it doesn't work. i remove these 2 lines. now the inital doesn't work neither! :D
15:15:37  <yawnt>compared to other nodejs hostings
15:15:40  <jetienne>yeah good question, why pushing the whole thing every time, and not only the delta
15:15:46  <jetienne>like a git or something
15:15:55  <DTrejo>jetienne++
15:15:55  <kohai>jetienne has 1 beer
15:15:58  <DTrejo>that is what i miss about no.de
15:16:02  <DTrejo>just git based deploys
15:16:14  <DTrejo>ssh access was cool but better not to have it
15:16:24  <DTrejo>mostly just git based deploy was amazingly nice
15:16:30  <yawnt>DTrejo: git based deploy is one of the worst things possible
15:16:35  <yawnt>at least imho
15:16:45  <jetienne>yawnt: why do you think so
15:16:46  <DTrejo>okay, let me amend this: differential deploys
15:16:46  <yawnt>because if you run opensource project like i do
15:17:11  <yawnt>it sucks not being able to differentiate your github code from your production code
15:17:15  <DTrejo>or "rsync" deploys, whatever you want to call it
15:17:20  <yawnt>eg: custom ssl certificate
15:17:28  <jetienne>delta allow faster transfert for the user, and less bandwidth for the host
15:17:48  <DTrejo>yawnt: i take back my git comment, i only want to send up diffs
15:18:00  <DTrejo>point taken about ssl certificates and annoying config stuff like that
15:18:20  <jetienne>i think you misunderstand git :)
15:18:28  <tralamaz>well it's like travis, you need to add deployment keys etc etc
15:18:34  <jetienne>but true it is irrelevant, rsync will do too
15:19:06  <yawnt>DTrejo: but it's true that partial uploads would be a nice feature
15:20:33  <jetienne>not even needed to rely on external tool, it isn't hard to recode a rsync like. like 1week for an experienced code
15:20:45  <jetienne>ok i stop chatting and go back working :)
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16:18:18  <eralha>hello im getting: An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
16:18:34  <eralha>the aplication logs dont show any code error
16:18:37  <AvianFlu>eralha: your app is probably in a crash loop, let me have a look
16:18:47  <eralha>and it works on localhost no erros
16:19:43  <AvianFlu>eralha: I was wrong, the server pool was empty
16:19:45  <AvianFlu>please try again
16:20:25  <eralha>seem ok now
16:20:38  <jim_>Business Regular - 10 drones. How many redis and/or mongo databases will be baked into that plan?
16:20:41  <AvianFlu>it should be, it looks like it succeeded
16:20:51  <AvianFlu>jim_: none, we don't host our own databases at present
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16:21:06  <AvianFlu>we've got partnerships with some cloud db providers, but it's all separate
16:21:36  <jim_>So the databases I can so easily create in the sandbox w/ jitsu go away when you sign up for a real plan?
16:21:58  <eralha>AvianFlu how can i test my app runing in mutiple drones?
16:22:08  <AvianFlu>jim_: no, they don't go away. they're just hosted by other people
16:22:15  <AvianFlu>redistogo, mongohq, whoever
16:22:31  <eralha>i want to test te comunications between multiple drones, right now im simulating it using localhost and jitsu
16:22:31  <jim_>I get that, but I have to negotiate payment for 'em with the providers?
16:22:38  <AvianFlu>as it stands now, yes
16:23:28  <jim_>Gotchya.
16:24:21  <jim_>I was really hoping for an all-in-one plan. So much for that.
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16:34:25  <jcf>I'm having a problem using SSL - connecting to https://myapp.nodejitsu.com - from a restkit client on ios (simulator). ios seems to be unhappy with the server certificate that is presented. curl and safari seem ok. the odd thing is that I can point the same restkit client at my app on heroku over SSL and it works just fine.
16:34:50  <jim_>What is nodejitsu's policy on using the sandbox/beta for something that might generate a lot of traffic?
16:35:14  <st_luke>jim_: other people have done that, i dont think they have a problem with it
16:35:20  <st_luke>good publicity for them
16:35:31  <jim_>That's what I'd expect.
16:35:38  <st_luke>actually
16:35:45  <st_luke>there was some site recently that got a shitload of traffic
16:35:48  <st_luke>and they featured it on their blog
16:35:55  <jim_>What was it? Any clue?
16:35:58  <st_luke>http://blog.nodejitsu.com/this-is-now
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16:50:12  <yawnt>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19597437
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16:55:13  <jcf>anybody else using SSL connections and having problems (in particular from a restkit / ios client) ?
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17:05:01  <st_luke>yawnt: twitter is fucked up
17:07:26  <yawnt>st_luke: it's getting dirtier and dirtier
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17:08:31  <st_luke>yeah we'll all keep using it though
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17:08:52  <yawnt>i for sure don't wanna spend 50$/year on app.net
17:08:57  <yawnt>i just use twitter for infos
17:09:02  <yawnt>as long as people are going to be there
17:09:05  <st_luke>yeah those app.net guys are clowns
17:09:07  <yawnt>i'm going to be there
17:09:22  <yawnt>http://ihave50dollars.com/
17:09:29  <yawnt>this sums up exactly how i think of it
17:09:54  <amdayton>hello
17:09:57  <yawnt>hai
17:10:14  <amdayton>have a nodejitsu q
17:10:22  <amdayton>kind of new at this thing still
17:10:35  <blakmatrix>amdayton: whats the query?
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17:10:46  <amdayton>well it's failing on deploy
17:10:52  <amdayton>and all it tells me is "error: socket hang up"
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17:11:12  <amdayton>any ideas how 1) why i might be running into this problem, or 2) where to find more info?
17:11:21  <blakmatrix>amdayton: can you give me your username and the contents of your package.json in a gist
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17:11:48  <amdayton>sure -- user is notioncollective
17:11:48  <kohai>sure has -1 beer
17:11:52  <amdayton>one sec on the gist
17:12:48  <amdayton>https://gist.github.com/3723302
17:12:50  <jetienne>yawnt: i don't understand 'ihavev50$'
17:13:08  <jetienne>yawnt: i mean everybody with internet got 50$
17:13:35  <jetienne>here if you don't have 500$ a month you are forced to live in the street
17:14:35  * jetienneguess he is just out
17:14:43  <yawnt>jetienne: look
17:14:46  <yawnt>a regular guy living here
17:14:53  <yawnt>gets from 900€ to 1200€
17:14:56  <blakmatrix>amdayton: taking a look
17:15:00  <yawnt>take out a rent.. a good 500-600€
17:15:01  <amdayton>thx
17:15:03  <yawnt>*the
17:15:10  <yawnt>food, gas, other stuff
17:15:19  <jetienne>yawnt: ok
17:15:21  <yawnt>he barely gets 50-100€ bucks
17:15:40  <yawnt>not for everyone 50$ is such a small amount of money
17:15:48  <jetienne>yawnt: oh 50euro/month after regular spending
17:15:54  <yawnt>yes
17:16:05  <jetienne>yawnt: where is here for you ?
17:16:08  <yawnt>also you might wanna save some money
17:16:10  <yawnt>jetienne: italy
17:16:15  <yawnt>because let's say
17:16:18  <yawnt>your car breaks down
17:16:21  <yawnt>or your refrigerator
17:16:22  <yawnt>or *
17:16:34  <yawnt>so take out 50-75 € / month
17:16:38  <yawnt>you are left with 25 bucks
17:16:55  <yawnt>do you think one of these guys would spend the money he has left of two months
17:16:58  <yawnt>in a social network?
17:17:04  <jetienne>oh ya if you make 900e and spending 600e on rent… you aren't in good shape
17:17:19  <yawnt>i mean, i'm lucky.. if i wanted i could save 50€ a year
17:17:38  <yawnt>but i know people .. lot of people.. who have to be really careful on how much they spend
17:17:45  <jetienne>yawnt: ok so this is a social network for people who can save at least 50e per month ?
17:18:20  <yawnt>this is a social network for people that don't have any economic issues
17:18:57  <jetienne>yawnt: ok got it
17:19:12  <yawnt>thank god it's not my case
17:19:18  <yawnt>but it's gettin tougher and tougher
17:19:22  <yawnt>gas here is 2€ / liter
17:19:29  <jetienne>yawnt: i don't have a car :)
17:19:31  <yawnt>10 $ a gallon if you're american
17:19:49  <yawnt>also i don't get why 50 $
17:19:57  <yawnt>it's a LOT
17:20:10  <yawnt>it means a little more than 4 $ / month
17:20:14  <jetienne>well i do computer stuff so it is super easy to make money
17:20:25  <yawnt>they claim to have > 3000k users right?
17:20:38  <yawnt>3000 users * 4 $ /month
17:20:43  <yawnt>means they get 12k every 30 days
17:20:49  <blakmatrix>amdayton: try redeploying while i watch
17:20:55  <jetienne>oh you have to pay them those 50$ ?
17:20:55  <yawnt>now i have no clue how much do you need to keep all those servers up
17:20:58  <amdayton>ok will do
17:21:04  <yawnt>but it does sound a lot of cash to me
17:21:20  <yawnt>jetienne: it's 50 $ / year for an account
17:21:20  <amdayton>blakmatrix: deploying now
17:21:28  <jetienne>yawnt: ohhh very nice operation
17:21:32  <yawnt>99 $ /year if you want API access and developer
17:21:38  <yawnt>*developer account
17:21:43  <jetienne>yawnt: putting the fact you have to pay as a key part of the service
17:21:49  <yawnt>jetienne: i'm a student.. so i get 0 $ / month :P
17:21:52  <jetienne>genius
17:22:02  <jetienne>yawnt: you could make a lot
17:22:15  <yawnt>yeah i know
17:22:28  <yawnt>but i think education is also important
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17:22:50  <jetienne>yeah but if it becomes a choise, it is different
17:22:55  <yawnt>yes
17:23:18  <yawnt>anyway yeah 50 $ can look like nothing to somebody, but it isn't always like that
17:23:21  <yawnt>just wanted to say that :P
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17:23:58  <jetienne>i can give 50e to a friend and forget it 5min later… but i will not pay 10e for a social network :)
17:24:15  <yawnt>10e?
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17:24:35  <jetienne>i guess it is cultural, i don't feel like paying for virtual goods
17:24:44  <yawnt>oh yeah
17:24:52  <yawnt>nah i do.. i mean if it's something i like
17:25:04  <jetienne>paying 1e for a apps on a phone ??? not for me :)
17:25:11  <yawnt>but you know
17:25:16  <yawnt>they could do a premium service
17:25:17  <yawnt>like
17:25:19  <yawnt>free for users
17:25:25  <yawnt>and let devs pay for the APIs
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17:25:42  <yawnt>that way you'd just invest money.. you're not forced to pay to be a part of it
17:25:48  <jetienne>the immediate question is : what do they provide which isn't already provided by free services ?
17:26:01  <yawnt>of course you should find a way to make money out of app.net's api
17:26:09  <yawnt>otherwise it's just pointless
17:26:25  <jetienne>yeah but the marketing angle is genius
17:26:33  <yawnt>jetienne: they claim to be developers friendly
17:26:43  <jetienne>it is about being rich while caring about poor
17:27:00  <jetienne>which is comfortable and socialy acceptable
17:27:12  <jetienne>genius :)
17:27:17  <yawnt>pretty much like the first twitter
17:27:30  <jetienne>yawnt: twitter was for a fee ?
17:27:35  <yawnt>no no
17:27:41  <yawnt>19:25 yawnt> jetienne: they claim to be developers friendly
17:27:43  <yawnt>19:26 yawnt> pretty much like the first twitter
17:28:04  <jetienne>yawnt: ah yeah but this is just because developer will be the first customer and they know it :)
17:28:07  <yawnt>and also their privacy policy should protect your datas more.. at least so i've heard
17:28:10  <yawnt>haven't checked really
17:28:53  <blakmatrix>amdayton: the npm install is running out of memory
17:29:00  <amdayton>oh ok
17:29:05  <amdayton>hmm
17:29:34  <blakmatrix>amdayton: this should be fixed by this weekend, but what you can try is bundling non compiling package like jade and express
17:30:08  <blakmatrix>amdayton: check out http://package.json.jit.su for an example
17:30:18  <amdayton>blakmatrix: ok cool thanks!
17:31:14  <blakmatrix>amdayton: what i usually do is do the npm install loocally and look for the packages that do compiling, if I see them I dont put them in bundledDependencies
17:31:44  <amdayton>blakmatrix: how do i find out which ones do compiling?
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17:33:00  <blakmatrix>amdayton: just look at the npm out put if you see a make step on one that means it compiles it, I know time is a compiled module since it's a binding to c time.h
17:33:23  <amdayton>ah ok
17:33:35  <amdayton>blakmatrix: got it, thanks
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17:50:15  * AvianFlutopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: ECONNREFUSED, 'socket hang up', or alloc errors on deploy are due to ongoing problems with npm installs fitting within our drones' RAM limits. A permanent fix will be rolled out over the weekend. Ask support for help in the meantime.
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17:52:12  <bananana>hello! i haz nub question :3 anyone up for it? huh?
17:52:30  <blakmatrix>hi bananana
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17:54:37  <blakmatrix>what was your question
17:56:32  <bananana>hi! i'm trying to get a simple chat app running so i can mess around with it, but it wont work :F. i've basicly copy/pasted this tutorial to the letter: http://java.dzone.com/articles/getting-started-socketio-and , and it works fine local, but when i try to deploy it its giving me "Error spawning drone: yadayada timeout." why's this? :<
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17:58:29  <bananana>oh wow.
17:58:36  <bananana>it says localhost
17:58:42  <bananana>errr, nvm i think -.-
17:59:05  <bananana>no wait! that's just the log. :<
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18:00:40  <blakmatrix>bananana: what is your username
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18:06:40  <blakmatrix>bananana: you need to add socket.io as a dependency to your package.json
18:06:49  <nathan7>bananana! fruitman!
18:07:04  <bananana>i see
18:07:10  <bananana>also, yes. it is i.
18:07:38  <blakmatrix>bananana: if you kneed hints on how to make a package.json file check out http://package.json.jit.su
18:07:54  <bananana>alright! cheers
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18:10:45  <st_luke>haha the hotel guy called me 'bro'
18:11:10  <st_luke>we iz brows now
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18:13:22  <bananana>ahh that did it, thanks a bunch blakmatrix!
18:13:23  <blakmatrix>bananana: congrats!
18:13:29  <blakmatrix>:)
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18:22:52  <blakmatrix>bananana: did you send in a support e-mail?
18:23:43  <bananana>nope
18:23:55  <bananana>i figured i'd come bug you directly on irc
18:24:04  <blakmatrix>alright :)
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18:26:51  <bananana>do i need to add a seperate dependency for the client side socket.io?
18:26:59  <bananana>or is that just silly
18:27:11  <blakmatrix>no, its a dependency of socket.io :P
18:27:47  <bananana>alright, it's not connecting (or telling me anything for that matter, it just sits there) trying to narrow it down :P
18:28:04  <blakmatrix>whats that link again?
18:28:33  <blakmatrix>probably in html you just need to use io.connect()
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18:30:32  <bananana>yeah i got that, and it should print "Connected" on connect (this works locally), but nothung :<
18:31:10  <bananana>i'm probably missing something elementary again :P
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18:31:35  <blakmatrix>where is your site?
18:31:57  <bananana>http://cd21.nodejitsu.com/
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18:32:22  <blakmatrix>also we have a boiler plate code you can play with too... just run `jitsu install socket.io`
18:32:47  <blakmatrix>I got "connected"
18:32:55  <bananana>oh really? wth!
18:32:56  <blakmatrix>perhaps its your brpwser?
18:33:01  <blakmatrix>browser
18:33:03  <bananana>chrome
18:33:54  <bananana>same in ff, how strange
18:35:32  <blakmatrix>bananana: check dev tools open console, see if it downloades socket.io.js
18:35:46  <bananana>haha no way. it works in IE!
18:35:47  <bananana>mind is blown
18:35:50  <blakmatrix>lol
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18:37:30  <stagas>bananana: try clearing cookies on the one that doesn't work or hard refresh
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18:39:18  <blakmatrix>does an error pop up at all in the developer console?
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18:39:42  <bananana>in chrome nothing, in FF i just noticed its throwing some errors yeah
18:39:43  <bananana>lets see
18:39:48  <stagas>bananana: my guess is it's trying some transport that doesn't work and fails there
18:40:58  <blakmatrix>go to http://wsping.jit.su
18:41:26  <blakmatrix>does it work for you?
18:41:37  <blakmatrix>do yo usee websockets in the brakets
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18:42:19  <bananana>nope, its "loading" forever in all 3 browsers
18:42:59  <lpin>bananana are you on windows?
18:43:02  <bananana>yes
18:43:08  <blakmatrix>go to http://websockettest.com
18:43:10  <lpin>are you using avast?
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18:43:27  <blakmatrix>oops
18:43:28  <bananana>that says "websockets seem to work for you!"
18:43:38  <blakmatrix>http://websocketstest.com
18:43:44  <bananana>yeah i got it :P
18:43:49  <bananana>naw, no avast
18:44:01  <lpin>ok nvm than
18:44:19  <lpin>some antivirus block ws
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18:45:14  <blakmatrix>in chrome developer tools under network what do you see once you refresh the page
18:48:40  <bananana>http://i.imgur.com/ZbyJ6.png
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18:48:44  <bananana>i see that!
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18:51:56  <blakmatrix>bananana: oh heh
18:52:02  <blakmatrix>23 ?
18:52:40  <blakmatrix>so they look to be working, sorta, but like ist starts trying other protocols as well
18:53:39  <blakmatrix>do you see any websocket frames on the first one that says switching protocols
18:55:38  <bananana>uh, what am i looking for? in headers?
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18:56:32  <blakmatrix>headers | preview| response| cookies | websocket frames
18:56:46  <blakmatrix>unless it doesnt have it
18:57:00  <bananana>doesnt have it
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18:57:31  <bananana>none of them do
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19:02:37  <blakmatrix>bananana: man i don't know :S I mean your websockets work, mine doo to I see your site and get websockets, but its like something with socket.io and your computer
19:02:59  <blakmatrix>its like it cant estblish a socket.io websocket for some reason
19:03:06  <Sly>Hey, blakmatrix. :)
19:03:12  <blakmatrix>hi Sly
19:04:02  <yawnt>hey Sly
19:04:08  <Sly>yawnt, <3
19:04:17  <bananana>yeah super wierd, i'm gonna try a restart o.o
19:04:23  <blakmatrix>bananana: wait
19:04:34  <bananana>ok
19:04:37  <bananana>:>
19:05:25  <Sly>How've you been, yawnt?
19:06:22  <yawnt>good good
19:06:28  <yawnt>coding n swimming today
19:06:37  <yawnt>also friends from UK arrived
19:06:51  <Sly>Nice.
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19:07:53  <Sly>Our yard is full of fire ants.
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19:10:37  <blakmatrix>bananana: try htp://wsping-ws.jit.su
19:11:19  <blakmatrix>does it work http://wsping-ws.jit.su
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19:12:34  <blakmatrix>it uses somethign other than socket.io, uses ws
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19:13:47  <bananana>nope, same thing
19:13:48  <bananana>loading..
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19:13:56  <blakmatrix>odd
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19:14:07  <blakmatrix>well restart i guess and see if that helps lol
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19:14:39  <bananana>oh this time its giving me websocket frames though
19:14:52  <blakmatrix>oh?
19:14:56  <blakmatrix>what do they say?
19:15:20  <jfisc__>still looking for help with an ssl issue with my app
19:15:41  <bananana>hnng, cant copy, anyway, 2 lines, each with a datestamp of sorts, opcode of 1, mask true, lenght 4, data ping
19:15:49  <blakmatrix>jfisc__: you sent in a e-mail right?
19:16:10  <blakmatrix>bananana: if yor getting ping pong
19:16:37  <blakmatrix>bananana: then websockets are working but it seems your DOM isnt being updated for some reason
19:16:54  <bananana>oh naw, its just twice 'ping'
19:16:55  <blakmatrix>javascript can't modify it or something
19:16:56  <bananana>no pong
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19:17:37  <jfisc__>I've got 2 things going on. 1) having my cert/key installed for my domain name which is scheduled to happen sometime over the weekend. 2) can't get it to work with myapp.nodejitsu.com
19:17:43  <blakmatrix>pong gets returned by javascript
19:18:07  <blakmatrix>so somethign is up with the execution of javascript on your browsers
19:18:43  <bananana>o.O except IE for some reason lol. anyway, thanks for all the help so far, i'll go see if a restart fixes it
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19:19:11  <blakmatrix>jfisc__: I dont follow what you mean by #2
19:19:21  <Sly>jfisc__, it's probably because your `myapp.nodejitsu.com` isn't listed in the SSL cert's domains.
19:19:36  <jfisc__>I'm having a problem using SSL - connecting to https://myapp.nodejitsu.com - from a restkit client on ios (simulator). ios seems to be unhappy with the server certificate that is presented. curl and safari seem ok. the odd thing is that I can point the same restkit client at my app on heroku over SSL and it works just fine.
19:20:06  <Sly>Oh. I thought you were talking about that security warning that pops up on invalid SSL certs.
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19:22:55  <blakmatrix>jfisc__: just a sec pinging a few other people
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19:24:24  <blakmatrix>jfisc__: I m told we will be moving away from brodaddy and have extended validation certs coming that should fix that issue by next week
19:24:32  <blakmatrix>*godaddy lol
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19:26:21  <st_luke>working right next to a really good graphic designer is nice sometimes
19:26:40  <st_luke>you can get technical non bullshit answers about design stuff
19:28:11  <jesusabdullah>nice
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19:29:10  <evilcelery>hi, i'm having trouble deploying my app, can anyone help me out?
19:29:40  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: sure, what kind of problems are you having?
19:30:17  <evilcelery>i keep getting 'error running command deploy, socket hang up'
19:30:30  <evilcelery>have had this the last few times I've tried deploying but it's usually worked eventually
19:31:02  <evilcelery>this time it's failing on the deploy every time
19:31:44  <jesusabdullah>I see
19:31:51  <jesusabdullah>what is your username and app name?
19:32:14  <evilcelery>powmedia, zootify
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19:35:15  <jesusabdullah>blakmatrix: brodaddy? NICE
19:37:26  <blakmatrix>jesusabdullah: you know it
19:38:03  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: ssh is being slow, I'm stepping out for a minute but will follow up
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20:17:58  <yawnt>walking dooown the street
20:17:59  <yawnt>back :D
20:18:05  <blakmatrix>yay!
20:18:09  <blakmatrix>:)
20:18:12  <yawnt>:)
20:18:24  <yawnt>ever heard of Gramatik blakmatrix ?
20:18:33  <blakmatrix>afraid not
20:18:34  <st_luke>is anyone using Go?
20:18:42  <yawnt>not right now
20:18:47  <yawnt>i had in mind to learn it though
20:18:53  <yawnt>found a cool free ebook in the wild
20:19:02  <yawnt>blakmatrix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcSe7ioLXSg
20:20:01  <st_luke>just trying to get ready to abandon ship for es6 you know
20:20:16  <yawnt>wut?
20:20:22  <yawnt>what do you mean?
20:21:09  <yawnt>http://www.golang-book.com <- st_luke
20:21:31  <st_luke>yawnt: when js moves on to es6 I'm probably not gonna write it anymore
20:21:39  <st_luke>thats what i mean
20:21:42  <yawnt>oh i see
20:21:58  <yawnt>es6 is kind of a big mess in some parts
20:22:09  <yawnt>but i do like other parts of it
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20:35:16  <st_luke>yawnt: I'm not looking forward to however the transition happens, so I'll kindly step away from the language while the dust clears. whenever that might be
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20:36:05  <yawnt>st_luke: i feel like js needs more than ever a central authority
20:36:25  <yawnt>but for the way the language itself is perceived, it's not possible
20:36:44  <yawnt>st_luke: if that counts, have you checked out elixir? :D
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20:37:53  <st_luke>yawnt: what do you mean by central authority
20:38:18  <yawnt>st_luke: ruby is developed (interpreter etc) by the people that created ruby
20:38:27  <yawnt>python is developed by the people who created it
20:38:30  <yawnt>and so forth
20:38:36  <yawnt>with javascript it doesn't work that way
20:39:08  <yawnt>you depend on external teams which have usually little interest to the language itself
20:39:18  <st_luke>are you referring to tc-39
20:39:20  <yawnt>in the language?
20:39:22  <yawnt>to the language?
20:39:34  <yawnt>no no
20:39:54  <yawnt>i'm saying for example.. take the Proxy feature.. it's really useful
20:39:58  <yawnt>you could do magic tricks with it
20:40:20  <yawnt>how long do you think we'll have to wait to see it implemented in chrome (not the canary), or especially IE?
20:40:38  <yawnt>all that stuff cripples the language, creates confusion and results in a big mess
20:41:31  <yawnt>afaik js is the only language where different versions of the interpreter/compiler have so many customizations.. like __noSuchMethod__ in firefox
20:41:50  <st_luke>I actually kinda like that because it prevents the change I don't want
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20:42:26  <yawnt>i feel like it prevents js from evolving as a language
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20:42:34  <yawnt>that saddens me, but it's just my two cents i mean
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21:04:00  <spaceman12>can someone please help me? I always got this error "Eror spawning drone, Script took too long to listen on socket" when deploying on nodejitsu. The same script runs perfectly fine in my local maching
21:04:20  <blakmatrix>spaceman12: can i see agist of your package.json
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21:06:41  <spaceman12>sorry, but wher is that thing located
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21:08:42  <blakmatrix>http://gist.github.com
21:08:57  <blakmatrix>package.json should be in the root of your app
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21:13:43  <blakmatrix>spaceman12: would you be able to show me your server.js file
21:14:16  <blakmatrix>also if you change the start script to "start server.js" it usually works better for me
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21:19:31  <jesusabdullah>spaceman12: how long does it take to spawn?
21:19:46  <jesusabdullah>spaceman12: does it spawn within a second or two of start?
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21:20:38  <jesusabdullah>spaceman12: by "spawn" I mean "create an http server and listen"
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21:30:49  <eralha>hello
21:31:24  <eralha>can someone give some insight how load balacing and drone spawn work here in jitsu?
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21:33:17  <eralha>anyone?
21:33:21  <blakmatrix>hello
21:33:51  <eralha>hey
21:33:53  <blakmatrix>whe have a set of balancers that take your request and forward it to your apps set of drones in a round robin manner
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21:34:33  <eralha>if i have 5 drones avaiçable for my app, they will spawn acording to request flow right?
21:34:41  <eralha>*availabel
21:35:18  <blakmatrix>yes, or process, whechever whould trigger the need for another drone
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21:36:56  <eralha>they will spwan drones only when one of them is "full" and cant handle more request or this scenario will be avoided?
21:37:25  <blakmatrix>huh?
21:37:40  <eralha>lol let me try to explain
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21:39:23  <eralha>yesterday some op, say that one process can handle about 500 concurrent connections with socket.io, so if i have 5 drones plan, at the moment of 0 request i will have one process up, and at the momento of 700 connections will i have 2 drones or more?
21:39:34  <eralha>sory my bad english
21:39:52  <blakmatrix>That's the idea
21:40:22  <blakmatrix>I dunno the exact algorithm but it will be handled on our end so you dont have to worry about the details
21:41:20  <eralha>yes i know but i like to know the mecanics behind, i allready change my app architecture thinking in this situations
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21:41:30  <mikeal>heya
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21:41:36  <mikeal>i just pushed a new nodejitsu app
21:41:39  <mikeal>and it's giving me a 404
21:41:47  <mikeal>and there aren't any logs in jitsu logs
21:42:00  <blakmatrix>mikeal: what is your username
21:42:19  <mikeal>mikeal
21:42:20  <mikeal>:)
21:42:23  <mikeal>http://dev.mikealrogers.com.jit.su
21:42:24  <mikeal>is the app
21:42:32  <blakmatrix>AvianFlu: could you shed some light on the mecanics of auto drone spawning for eralha ?
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21:42:46  <eralha>=)
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21:43:45  <eralha>blakmatrix im loving the simplicity of the platform and the fast support you have here a costumer, can wait to have my plan
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21:46:03  <blakmatrix>mikeal: I'm not actually seeing a your app hitting a drone, are you using jitsu or the webUI?
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21:46:45  <mikeal>jitsu
21:47:31  <blakmatrix>eralha: I guess i misspoke, I was under the impression thee was autoscalling, I ma told users will have to increase the drone pool manualy
21:47:41  <mikeal>i'm redepoying now
21:48:05  <eralha>thats bad!!
21:48:08  <mikeal>w00t, an error
21:48:48  <eralha>how will i ever know when i need to scale it? or i will assume that i will need all of my drones at same time
21:49:50  <eralha>blakmatrix when you say manualy, you are saying in jitsu console or on app code?
21:50:13  <coderarity>mikeal: which error?
21:50:35  <eralha>i see in the comercial plan that there is autoscalling
21:50:42  <yawnt>damn
21:50:48  <yawnt>wops, wrong chan
21:50:49  <yawnt>sorry
21:50:49  <yawnt>:P
21:51:28  <jesusabdullah>eralha: You mean, will be autoscaling, when we expose the commercial plan to users
21:51:35  <jesusabdullah>eralha: you have questions about autoscaling?
21:51:52  <eralha>yap i will copy what i ask
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21:52:15  <eralha>yesterday some op, say that one process can handle about 500 concurrent connections with socket.io, so if i have 5 drones plan, at the moment of 0 request i will have one process up, and at the momento of 700 connections will i have 2 drones or more?
21:52:27  <mikeal>error: socket hang up
21:52:32  <mikeal>coderarity: ^^
21:53:28  <blakmatrix>mikeal: Package.json start script declared but not found
21:53:41  <mikeal>its definitely there :)
21:53:44  <mikeal>i can run it
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21:53:55  <coderarity>hmm
21:54:09  <mikeal> "start": "node ./serve.js"
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21:54:17  <jesusabdullah>mikeal: a few ideas: perhaps it's ignored, or haibu is being persnickety about the scripts.start field
21:54:21  <mikeal>./serve is in the root
21:54:27  <jesusabdullah>maybe "node serve.js" ?
21:54:33  <jesusabdullah>I hope haibo isn't that dumb
21:54:33  <eralha>jesusabdullah?
21:54:39  <blakmatrix>i'd remove the "./"
21:54:41  <mikeal>i'll try
21:55:24  <jesusabdullah>eralha: basically, how it will work is that you'll be able to set up scaling rules based on exposed parameters such as max drones you want, server load, etc. So, yes.
21:55:28  <mikeal>its hanging on deploy again, so i figure it's not working
21:55:48  <mikeal>error: Error: package.json error: can't find starting script: node serve.js
21:55:54  <coderarity>sometimes it does work after it hangs
21:56:03  <mikeal>hrm...
21:56:09  <coderarity>mikeal: usually how I debug that is to run `npm pack` and check out the package.json
21:56:17  <eralha>jesusabdullah thanks i cant wait for comercials plans
21:56:18  <coderarity>i mean, the pakage
21:56:19  <mikeal>what it pushes is identical to what npm publish would do, correct?
21:56:36  <coderarity>yeah, which I assume uses npm pack
21:57:01  <mikeal>ok, just did it, serve.js is in there
21:57:35  <coderarity>huh
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21:58:49  <jesusabdullah>wtf
21:58:49  <mikeal>i'm cutting off a token that i have in my package.json cause i'd rather not post it publicly
21:59:01  <jesusabdullah>I mean that makes sense
21:59:11  <mikeal>so if you're trying to search for it i would leave off the trailing "}
21:59:26  <coderarity>in the database, "node serve.js a286482b7f41da0c8e296238550e16015b07e1fd"
21:59:39  <mikeal>yeah, i'm gonna have to revoke that token now
21:59:42  <mikeal>cause you posted it publicly
21:59:43  <blakmatrix>lol
21:59:48  <coderarity>oh, sorry
21:59:52  <coderarity>:\
21:59:55  <eralha>"scripts": { "start": "serve.js"}
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22:00:00  <eralha>remove the node word
22:00:20  <coderarity>i suspect that might have somethign to do with it
22:01:09  <jesusabdullah>oh, mikeal, try removing the token and load it from a config file, haibu might be dumb enough right now that it can't take cli arguments
22:01:24  <jesusabdullah>ಠ_ಠ
22:01:31  <mikeal>that shouldn't give a not_found tho would it
22:01:43  <jesusabdullah>I mean
22:01:45  <jesusabdullah>maybe?
22:01:58  <jesusabdullah>not that it *should* but that doesn't change reality knawmean?
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22:02:32  <blakmatrix>well it certainly is tho, since its failing with package.json error: can't find starting script: node serve.js
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22:02:54  <mikeal>ok, tried without node, still failed
22:03:07  <mikeal>currently trying without the arg
22:03:32  <mikeal>the token was it
22:03:45  <mikeal>have a much more reasonable error now :)
22:03:48  <mikeal>that is my fault
22:03:50  <mikeal>thanks :)
22:03:51  <blakmatrix>Error: Cannot find module '../jaws'
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22:04:00  <mikeal>yeah, that's easy to fi
22:04:01  <coderarity>mikeal: np, sorry about posting that token
22:04:01  <mikeal>er fix
22:04:05  <jesusabdullah>mikeal: Hah, you're welcome
22:04:09  <mikeal>its cool, revoking it now
22:04:14  <jesusabdullah><3
22:04:44  <spaceman12>does nodejitsu supports CORS
22:05:00  <jesusabdullah>I always forget the answer to this
22:05:06  <jesusabdullah>blakmatrix: do you know?
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22:05:34  <blakmatrix>spaceman12: you have to modify incoming requests in node to work with it
22:05:35  <jesusabdullah>oh yes, that's right
22:05:47  <jesusabdullah>spaceman12: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-origin_resource_sharing all you have to do is follow these directions, we certainly won't get in the way of that
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22:20:21  <spaceman12>I can see the cookie been set in the header response but no cookie is actually written in reality, why is this so? I m speculating if it is with the problem of nodejitsu
22:21:11  <jesusabdullah>no cookie getting written? I haven't heard of that problem before and I don't see how we could cause it
22:21:36  <jesusabdullah>but if you're able to find indications that you're not receiving in your client what you expect (with curl -iv, say) then let us know
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22:26:28  <spaceman12>onetime, the cookie was written successfully, most of times, it doesnt. I'm doing a CORS request with credentials set to true
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22:28:07  <eralha>jesusabdulah how can i get a copy of my app to my pc? i have it on my office computar im a t home and im trying to get my app
22:29:35  <blakmatrix>eralha: `jitsu snapshots fetch`
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22:31:40  <eralha>jesusabdulah tahks
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22:33:11  <jesusabdullah>eralha: I recommend using github or similar for source management
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22:34:25  <eralha>thanks, i see that it´s possible to set a git repo in package source
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22:43:40  <klaemo>hey, folks! so when I provision redistogo and iriscouch instances via jitsu databases create ... are the databases gonna be in the same datacenter as my nodejitsu app? or anywhere near? just wondering
22:43:42  <jaha>jesusabdullah: is there a specific reason jitsu deploy has been working so poorly lately (last few weeks), it works once for every 20 times on most all my apps. I know there are server changes planned in the near future but I just want to make sure it's not something Im doing wrong
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22:46:56  <jesusabdullah>jaha: the topic explains about 80% of the problems users have been having
22:47:12  <jesusabdullah>jaha: the other 20% is lame things that the server isn't returning sufficient errors on for you to debug
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22:48:40  <jaha>jesusabdullah: thanks! missed the topic, keep up the good work
22:50:27  <jaha>jesusabdullah: i suppose it means nodejitsu is getting more and more popular (more work for the drones) so we should look at it as a good thing ;)
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23:25:04  <mikeal>ok
23:25:07  <mikeal>now i'm getting new errors
23:25:36  <mikeal>ECONNREFUSED
23:25:39  <mikeal>like in the topic
23:25:45  <mikeal>what am i to do :)
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23:33:27  <blakmatrix>mikeal: BAD DRONE BAD
23:34:39  <blakmatrix>mikeal: I fixed that drone, haibu was in a crash loop
23:36:10  <mikeal>trying agian
23:37:26  <blakmatrix>mikeal: Script took too long to listen on a socket :S
23:37:50  <mikeal>should be happening immediately
23:38:17  <mikeal>happens immediately locally
23:38:36  <mikeal>everything is lazy, i don't go off and do any IO before listen, i start some, but I don't wait on it to listen
23:39:37  <blakmatrix>well the this drone did take a long time to log into it might be the case it is at fault
23:40:02  <blakmatrix>I asked some one to restart it unfortueatley devops seems to be out at the moment
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23:40:55  <mikeal>can you see what my current process is using in terms of memory?
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23:42:13  <blakmatrix>mikeal: your app will deploy fine if it doesnt hit a bad drone... there are 4-5 drones that need to be cleaned up,
23:42:43  <blakmatrix>unfortuneately they are "free" and so it tries to deploy to them
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23:47:41  <blakmatrix>mikeal: sadly i dont know or dont have acces to clean them up and as I said devops is AWOL at the oment, so my best suggestion is try redeploying, I can watch and do my best, and possibly clean up and drones that i can clean up
23:48:55  <mikeal>got one to take finall
23:49:19  <blakmatrix>heh i just restarted the haibu on that one actually lol
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23:58:58  <mikeal>this is painful :(
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