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00:07:02  <admc>hrm, so my whole account appears to be broken, Internal Server Errror even with apps that were deployable yesterday
00:07:08  <admc>are you guys having an outage of some kind?
00:07:23  <admc>nodejitsu I mean
00:10:35  <dscape>admc: app name?
00:10:39  <dscape>username? :)
00:11:03  <admc>admc
00:11:05  <admc>wild
00:11:30  <dscape>ok let me just put a new episode of masterchef on and ill check up whats happening
00:11:42  <dscape>we have mmalecki on it too apparently :)
00:13:26  <mmalecki>yeah, looking.
00:14:03  <mmalecki>hm, I just got it started. can I see your jitsu output, admc?
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00:21:34  <doubletap>i just got a deploy ERROR: http://pastebin.com/y49KacPK
00:22:39  <admc>yeah one sec
00:23:02  <admc>https://gist.github.com/3740568
00:23:26  <admc>been getting it all day with two different projects
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00:24:27  <coderarity>doubletap: username/app name?
00:24:41  <doubletap>doubletap tagalong.io
00:24:49  <doubletap>second time it worked.
00:24:58  <coderarity>alright
00:25:41  <admc>hrm, second time failed aswell
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00:32:07  <coderarity>admc: http://tagalong.jit.su/
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00:32:16  <mmalecki>admc: can I see your package.json?
00:32:54  <admc>https://gist.github.com/3740585
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00:33:26  <coderarity>woah
00:33:28  <coderarity>wrong user
00:33:30  <coderarity>epic lol
00:33:33  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: any clue ^ ? seems like the build server is returning that error
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00:34:49  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] blakmatrix pushed 28 new commits to master: http://git.io/snhb5w
00:34:49  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [api] added utile as dependency - Farrin Reid
00:34:49  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [api][dist] required utile as dependency - Farrin Reid
00:34:49  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [api] used utile to determine callback with deploy function - Farrin Reid
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00:34:57  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: check the build server's logs
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00:36:03  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] nodejitsu/jitsu#182 (master - f45754f : Farrin Reid): The build passed.
00:36:03  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/compare/02dfe76def32...f45754f7d9a3
00:36:03  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/jitsu/builds/2486745
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00:40:47  <mmalecki>admc: hm, your jitsu seems to be outdated
00:40:52  <mmalecki>admc: can you upgrade it?
00:41:12  <dscape>admc: sorry, im like having devops 101 now :P
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00:41:13  <dscape>lol
00:41:19  <dscape>but also checking it with mmalecki
00:41:20  <admc>certainly, thought I tried that
00:41:38  <admc>whats the latest
00:41:39  <admc>([email protected])(%:36:wild.io): jitsu -v
00:41:39  <admc>0.8.5-1
00:41:46  <mmalecki>yeah, definitely outdated
00:41:53  <coderarity>it's like 0.9.8 or something
00:42:11  <admc>oh yikes
00:42:28  <admc>I thought npm update would do it, doesn't seem to do anything install seems to be installing all the latest goodnesss
00:42:41  <coderarity>yeah, do `npm i jitsu -g`
00:43:24  <admc>great, those warnings are gone - woot.
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00:43:57  <admc>thanks
00:44:02  <admc>works now as expected.
00:44:36  <mmalecki>yay.
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01:53:41  <doubletap>nodejitsu, you made my migration from no.de a breeze, relatively speaking. thank you so much.
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02:01:55  <st_luke>sweet berry wine
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03:07:03  <thlorenz>seems like jitsu removes all ".git" folders on deploy
03:07:42  <AvianFlu>it follows the same rules as `npm pack`
03:07:43  <thlorenz>I have a submodule of my blog that I want to pull from at startup and whenever it is updated and its commit hook fires
03:07:48  <AvianFlu>might ignore dotfiles in general
03:08:07  <thlorenz>but that .git is inside a subfolder (of the submodule)
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03:08:24  <AvianFlu>hmmm
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03:08:28  <thlorenz>I need that to be able to pull in changes to my blog
03:08:39  <thlorenz>any way around that?
03:09:04  <thlorenz>a hacky way would be to rename it and then name it back to .git on app startup
03:09:28  <AvianFlu>well, run `npm pack` and see if the .git folder is in the tarball
03:09:33  <AvianFlu>if it is, then it's something else
03:09:41  <thlorenz>ok I'll try that
03:10:26  <thlorenz>you are right, it isn't in there
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03:10:47  <AvianFlu>npm pack probably ignores dotfiles in general
03:10:53  <AvianFlu>I think you can make an .npmignore file
03:11:08  <AvianFlu>and put like, !whatever/.git
03:11:17  <AvianFlu>to tell it to un-ignore explicitly
03:11:21  <AvianFlu>that's kind of a guess, though
03:11:42  <thlorenz>thanks, I'll try that -- was just thinking about that right now - but you beat me to it ;)
03:11:46  <rgsys>hey, today i havent been able to deploy to nodejitsu: error: ENOENT, open '/root/tmp/tmp-28742atg0zcg/build/package/package.json'
03:12:06  <rgsys>anyone know if this is something local or on nodejitsu cloud?
03:13:18  <AvianFlu>rgsys: how consistent? and has it been more than one app?
03:13:37  <rgsys>yes, consisten and on several apps
03:13:57  <rgsys>no code changes on all but one of them
03:14:00  <AvianFlu>weird, let me have a look
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03:15:00  <mmalecki>rgsys: what's your jitsu version?
03:15:26  <mmalecki>we've been seeing it with some old version, reason unknown
03:15:27  <rgsys>0.8.5
03:15:36  <mmalecki>definitely upgrade :)
03:15:45  <mmalecki>latest is 0.9.8 I think
03:15:51  <mmalecki>`npm -g i jitsu`
03:16:01  <rgsys>im trying
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03:20:09  <thlorenz>@AvianFlu trying to include . files doesn't seem to work - not even for .gitignore
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03:20:35  <thlorenz>I put !.gitignore and it still doesn't include it via npm pack
03:20:41  <AvianFlu>thlorenz: it's probably an npm config somewhere
03:20:53  <AvianFlu>I'm not completely sure
03:21:11  <mmalecki>I think .git is excluded on fstream-npm level
03:21:19  <rgsys>whoa, should i uninstall jitsu before? bunch of errors
03:21:29  <mmalecki>rgsys: gist?
03:21:37  <thlorenz>ok, I'll try a bit more later, otherwise I'll resort to the renaming scheme ;)
03:21:46  <mmalecki>here https://github.com/isaacs/fstream-npm/blob/master/fstream-npm.js#L100-112
03:22:28  <thlorenz>thanks, @malecki - that makes it pretty obvious what's going on
03:23:02  <rgsys>npm ERR! error rolling back [email protected] Error: ENOTEMPTY,
03:23:14  <thlorenz>guess no one was thinking about deploying submodules at that point in time
03:23:28  <mmalecki>rgsys: hm. can I see a full log?
03:23:29  <mmalecki>gist it
03:23:37  <mmalecki>I'll tell you what to remove
03:23:37  <thlorenz>oh well, renaming scheme it is, thanks for all your help
03:23:51  <mmalecki>also, what's your node and npm version?
03:24:03  <mmalecki>that thing was pretty common in older versions
03:24:17  <rgsys>lemme check
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03:25:36  <rgsys>https://gist.github.com/3741064
03:27:07  <rgsys>node v 0.6.17
03:27:26  <rgsys>npm v1.1.21
03:27:40  <jesusabdullah>that's a pretty stale version of node
03:27:45  <jesusabdullah>and going to cause you problems for sure
03:28:07  <jesusabdullah>try upgrading node to either 0.6.20 (if you need 0.6 in particular for legacy reasons) or 0.8.x
03:29:03  <rgsys>dont think so, i'll upgrade
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03:30:32  <jesusabdullah>chances are it will be a smooth transition rgsys
03:32:58  <rgsys>on it
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03:38:05  <rgsys>thanks @jesusabdllah/mmalecki, upgrading everything brb
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04:23:15  <harbhub>hey fellas
04:27:03  <mmalecki>sup
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04:28:08  <nirst>anyone around? I think my session keeps exspiring when trying to upload a new app
04:28:27  <nirst>expiring
04:28:31  <mmalecki>nirst: please use jitsu. we're in progress of refactoring the web ui
04:29:10  <nirst>nitsu?
04:29:16  <nirst>fuck, jitsu?
04:29:53  <mmalecki>well, you're using develop.nodejitsu.com, right?
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04:30:03  <nirst>yup
04:30:24  <mmalecki>yeah. so please use jitsu - our cli tool
04:30:28  <mmalecki>npm -g install jitsu
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04:31:11  <nirst>ill give that a shot
04:33:20  <harbhub>jitsu is the bomb
04:33:25  <harbhub>jitsu deploy = oh yeah
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04:33:59  <nirst>keep getting this: TypeError: Object #<MuteStream> has no method 'getWindowSize' when trying to run commands
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04:35:16  <mmalecki>nirst: what os and node version?
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04:35:46  <nirst>osx and node v0.8.3
04:36:02  <harbhub>nirstttt
04:36:12  <nirst>:[
04:36:25  <mmalecki>nirst: please upgrade to v0.8.9
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04:36:39  <mmalecki>that should fix it iirc
04:36:44  <harbhub>how do you upgrade node?
04:36:45  <nirst>kk doing that now
04:36:53  <harbhub>to latest version?
04:37:24  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: I install from sauce
04:37:38  <harbhub>sauce?
04:37:40  <nirst>im using nvm
04:37:44  <harbhub>source?!
04:37:45  <harbhub>lol
04:37:57  <harbhub>i use homebrew if thats what ya mean
04:38:23  <harbhub>brew update
04:38:25  <harbhub>brew update node
04:38:36  <harbhub>npm update npm -g
04:39:30  <harbhub>hmm
04:39:41  <harbhub>brew update thinks 0.8.4 is uptodate
04:41:02  <harbhub>i
04:41:07  <harbhub>i'm trying nodejs.org
04:41:17  <harbhub>maybe that install will do the magic
04:44:33  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: naw, I download the source, run ./configure && make && sudo make install
04:44:38  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: I'm on linux
04:45:00  <harbhub>nodejs install from the site worked for me
04:45:04  <harbhub>node -v
04:45:07  <harbhub>0.8.9
04:45:14  <harbhub><-- mac osx
04:45:24  <harbhub>thinking about installing linux on the mac to have the combo
04:46:23  <nirst>taking forever to install for me -_-
04:46:27  <harbhub>what is an object mapping layer?
04:48:12  <nirst>mmalecki https://gist.github.com/3f11b00f08d504fdbc90
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04:48:46  <coderarity>harbhub: you have a macbook?
04:48:59  <coderarity>harbhub: warning: wireless problems
04:49:02  <harbhub>coderarity: ya osx 10.7
04:49:15  <harbhub>wireless problems?
04:49:28  <harbhub>you mean you are having them, or mac has them?
04:50:03  <coderarity>macbooks in general
04:50:11  <coderarity>it's got a wireless card that disagrees with linux
04:50:15  <coderarity>at least, the latest versions do
04:50:33  <nirst>or anyone https://gist.github.com/3f11b00f08d504fdbc90 error when doing jitsu deploy
04:51:13  <mmalecki>nirst: can I see your package.json?
04:51:38  <nirst>https://gist.github.com/cfee2cdb3edcc15b3148
04:51:50  <nirst>some stuff was added during the deploy process i guess
04:51:57  <mmalecki>please use 0.8.x as node version
04:52:13  <harbhub>oh
04:52:21  <nirst>hmm ok
04:52:24  <harbhub>so what is MIME exactly?
04:52:38  <harbhub>https://github.com/broofa/node-mime i always see this stuff
04:52:44  <harbhub>and i use it even, but what is it?
04:53:04  <coderarity>harbhub: tells the web browser what type of content is being served, basically
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04:54:10  <cody-->testing, this is using the nirc web browser irc client
04:54:16  <nirst>yay it worked :D
04:54:30  <coderarity>cody--: indeed it is
04:54:30  <kohai>cody has -18 beers
04:54:42  <mmalecki>haha, that feels pretty cool :)
04:54:46  <nirst>http://nirc.jit.su/
04:55:49  <harbhub>got it
04:55:59  <nirst>thanks for the help mmalecki
04:56:10  <harbhub>has anyone used JPLAYER to play audio files in a Node app?
04:56:20  <harbhub>it wont play audio files from my static files
04:56:29  <harbhub>but it will play audio files from other online sources
04:56:37  <harbhub>i believe the problem is the format of the audio file
04:56:46  <harbhub>but i do not know for sure, nor do i know how to fix it
04:56:53  <harbhub>maybe i need to buffer the audio file?
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05:04:10  <jhizzle>foo
05:04:14  <jhizzle>"you" huh?
05:04:32  <jhizzle>this ux is pretty slick
05:05:20  <jhizzle>If I had /commands + scripting in node + custom css skins in an appjs build? that would be sweet
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05:05:40  <mmalecki>mmaleckiyo: yo?
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05:06:19  <mmalecki>ircretary: tell nirst any chance nirc is open source? I'd love to add desktop notifications to it
05:06:20  <ircretary>mmalecki: I'll be sure to tell nirst
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05:08:41  <harbhub>is anyone using locomotive?
05:11:37  <jesusabdullah>if it's oss and reasonably organized I can probably hack in /commands
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05:17:53  <harbhub>best way to authenticate users?
05:18:12  <mdedetrich>sned a carrier pigeon
05:18:17  <mdedetrich>*send
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05:19:14  <mdedetrich>smoke signals also work
05:19:19  <harbhub>lol
05:19:28  <harbhub>ss is hard to wrap my head around
05:19:35  <harbhub>i don't really understand rpc
05:20:10  <LuckySMack_>i didnt find anyone using streamsend. how it is?
05:21:05  <mdedetrich>harbhub: really good tut here
05:21:26  <mdedetrich>harbhub: https://github.com/socketstream/socketstream/blob/master/doc/guide/en/authentication.md
05:21:31  <mdedetrich>its literally like 5 lines of code
05:21:45  <mdedetrich>user.id is some unique userid for that user
05:22:29  <harbhub>yeah i still feel like there is more to it
05:22:30  <harbhub>for instance
05:22:38  <harbhub>how does a new user create an account to begin with
05:22:47  <harbhub>and i want to make sure it is email verified
05:23:03  <mdedetrich>well thats the same as I explained like 2 weeks ago
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05:23:39  <harbhub>yes you told me the process
05:23:45  <harbhub>i even wrote it donw
05:23:46  <harbhub>down
05:23:47  <harbhub>but
05:24:03  <harbhub>actually implementing it doesnt seem to be as easy since i've never done it before
05:24:16  <jcrugzz>harbhub: you only learn by trying and failing
05:24:19  <jcrugzz>until you get it right
05:24:26  <harbhub>fare enough
05:24:31  <jcrugzz>just dive into that shit
05:24:33  <mdedetrich>for now keep things simple
05:24:35  <mdedetrich>and don't worry about emails
05:24:45  <mdedetrich>just create another function which creates a new user
05:24:47  <mdedetrich>with a password
05:24:47  <harbhub>well SocketStream is not simple to me lol
05:24:55  <harbhub>hmm
05:25:01  <mdedetrich>its the exact same as in express
05:25:05  <jcrugzz>harbhub: well socketstream does a lot of cool magic
05:25:05  <mdedetrich>the business logic is the same
05:25:16  <mdedetrich>you bcrypt the password
05:25:21  <mdedetrich>create a new user object
05:25:27  <mdedetrich>and put it into the database
05:25:36  <mdedetrich>just create a new function that does this
05:25:40  <harbhub>so i make a Jade(HTML) form with two inputs and a submit input
05:25:46  <harbhub>username: password:
05:25:50  <harbhub>they user submits
05:25:53  <mdedetrich>harbhub: you don't need to use forms
05:25:55  <mdedetrich>with SS
05:25:56  <mdedetrich>at all
05:25:56  <harbhub>i make that a method='post'
05:25:59  <harbhub>oh
05:26:01  <mdedetrich>you just call a method on the client side
05:26:03  <harbhub>cool
05:26:06  <mdedetrich>which sends the data over
05:26:09  <mdedetrich>so it would be something like
05:26:14  <jcrugzz>thats where the RPC comes in
05:26:51  <mdedetrich>ss.rpc(auth.createUser, someEmail,somePassword, callback)
05:26:56  <mdedetrich>on the client side
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05:27:05  <mdedetrich>then the server creates the user
05:27:12  <mdedetrich>then the user can login
05:27:23  <harbhub>what the heck
05:27:40  <harbhub>so for instance with gmail/facebook/anything
05:27:47  <harbhub>i can create a username and password
05:27:53  <harbhub>not have it made for me by the server
05:27:57  <harbhub>or am i missing something?
05:28:11  <mdedetrich>uh?
05:28:25  <mdedetrich>I don't know what you are getting at
05:29:05  <harbhub>ss.rpc()
05:29:15  <mdedetrich>ss.rpc sends a message from the client (browser) to the server
05:29:19  <mdedetrich>and vice versa (server to client)
05:29:22  <harbhub>ok
05:29:23  <harbhub>but
05:29:30  <harbhub>where does the client
05:29:35  <harbhub>type in the name and passowrd?
05:29:37  <harbhub>and email?
05:29:46  <mdedetrich>well make some html textfields
05:29:50  <mdedetrich>put ID's on them
05:29:58  <mdedetrich>and use jquery to get values out of them
05:30:00  <harbhub>yeah that is what i meant by the form
05:30:08  <harbhub>but i guess i didnt need a 'form'
05:30:08  <mdedetrich>it doesn't have to be a form
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05:30:13  <harbhub>just text/pass inputs
05:30:15  <harbhub>yep okay
05:30:19  <harbhub>so
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05:30:23  <harbhub>i have mySS
05:30:33  <harbhub>i just used the socketstream new
05:30:40  <harbhub>hmm actually
05:30:44  <harbhub>i should start this fresh
05:30:52  <Sly>Any dark TextMate theme suggestions?
05:31:06  <harbhub>Sly: sublime 2 :)
05:31:14  <Sly>I'm using Sublime 2 already.
05:31:34  <mdedetrich>Sly: solarized dark is quite good
05:31:34  <Sly>I'm talking about the color themes/scheme/whatever you want to call it.
05:31:53  <mdedetrich>Sly: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized
05:32:02  <harbhub>okay mdedetrich i am getting overwhelmed by the socketstream default app
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05:32:41  <mdedetrich>understand the default app first
05:32:50  <mdedetrich>check the app.coffee in the client section
05:32:51  <harbhub>oh i dont understand it
05:32:56  <mdedetrich>and the demo.coffee in the server
05:32:59  <harbhub>i dont like coffee
05:33:02  <mdedetrich>well do that before trying to do auth
05:33:05  <harbhub>how do i make a global var in coffee?
05:33:21  <mdedetrich>you shouldn't be using global variables
05:33:26  <mdedetrich>but if you just declare the variable at the top
05:33:27  <mdedetrich>its global
05:33:30  <harbhub>ever?
05:33:33  <mdedetrich>someVar = ''
05:33:49  <harbhub>there is never a reason to use a global var?
05:33:50  <mdedetrich>will create a global variable someVar
05:34:06  <mdedetrich>harbhub: only for things like require and db management and session
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05:34:31  <mdedetrich>harbhub: there is a coffee script compiler, and sublime has a coffee script command to convert coffee script strait into js
05:34:39  <mdedetrich>harbhub: so you can actually see what the rendered js is
05:35:23  <Sly>http://i.imgur.com/OXtfj.png @ mdedetrich
05:35:28  <harbhub>i like how that sounds
05:35:40  <Sly>Found one.
05:35:56  <mdedetrich>Sly: that one is niice
05:36:02  <mdedetrich>Sly: but it will hurt your eyes after a while
05:36:10  <mdedetrich>Sly: contrast on white is way too strong
05:36:22  <mdedetrich>Sly: read the solarized site, it explains why there color scheme is better
05:36:47  <mdedetrich>*their
05:37:15  <mdedetrich>harbhub: coffee script variables are declared when you mention them
05:37:18  <LuckySMack_>i never cared much for solarized
05:37:18  <mdedetrich>harbhub: if that helps
05:37:22  <Sly>I've tried Solarized before. I just can't get used to the colors.
05:37:31  <Sly>idk. Just something about them doesn't sit well with me.
05:37:32  <Sly>xD
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05:38:37  <mdedetrich>well I stare at a screen for very long hours
05:38:40  <mdedetrich>and it makes a difference for me
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05:38:47  <mdedetrich>but its just personal preference
05:38:47  <LuckySMack_>Sly: i never could find one i liked. i just made my own, i think based of twilight
05:39:13  <Sly>LuckySMack_, this one is based off of one that Sweyla generated.
05:39:24  <harbhub>how do i get sublime to complie coffee into js
05:39:36  <LuckySMack_> oh ok.
05:39:36  <Sly>harbhub, use the build system.
05:39:49  <LuckySMack_>let me see if i can get a screenshot of mine.
05:40:32  <harbhub>the build system?
05:40:49  <harbhub>oh i see
05:41:07  <LuckySMack_>ST has a build system you can run when running a file
05:41:13  <Sly>harbhub, Tools > Build System > New Build System...
05:41:16  <LuckySMack_>so you can have it run scripts before hand
05:41:30  <coderarity>it's kinda cool
05:41:33  <coderarity>limited though
05:41:33  <mdedetrich>You don't have to do taht
05:41:35  <mdedetrich>there is a plugin
05:41:38  <mdedetrich>which does it for you
05:41:43  <harbhub>hmm
05:41:44  <mdedetrich>you don't need to make a build system
05:41:58  <LuckySMack_>go to package manager and look for coffee.
05:41:59  <mdedetrich>harbhub: https://github.com/Xavura/CoffeeScript-Sublime-Plugin
05:41:59  <harbhub>it says i can build system coffeescript
05:42:00  <Sly>lol. I made a build system for it.
05:42:08  <coderarity>harbhub, alternatively, could use a git hook
05:42:18  <harbhub>never used a git hook in my life
05:42:22  <coderarity>assuming you want to make sure it's compiled before you upload it to git
05:42:24  <harbhub>don't know how
05:42:25  <mdedetrich>coderarity: he is new to coding
05:42:30  <harbhub>yep
05:42:34  <mdedetrich>coderarity: don't overwhelm him
05:42:43  <mdedetrich>harbhub: just install the plugin I mentioned above
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05:43:02  <mdedetrich>harbhub: then just do alt + shift + c when you are inside a coffee script file
05:43:11  <mdedetrich>and it will show you the js
05:43:37  <harbhub>i'll try
05:44:12  <harbhub>is the package control the same as the python console?
05:44:32  <harbhub>nvrmind
05:44:43  <harbhub>i have package control already, it was just telling to install that first
05:45:10  <mdedetrich>if you have package contral , just follow the instructions
05:45:33  <harbhub>wow
05:45:40  <harbhub>that was easy, alt shift c
05:45:43  <harbhub>like you said
05:45:48  <harbhub>it just makes a new file
05:46:01  <harbhub>same name with js extension and readable code (to me :) )
05:46:25  <mdedetrich>of course
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05:47:53  <harbhub>ok
05:47:56  <harbhub>i think that helps
05:47:57  <harbhub>a lot
05:47:59  <harbhub>seeing the js
05:48:29  <harbhub>serveClient('main');
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05:48:57  <mdedetrich>a lot of the conversion is strait forward
05:49:11  <harbhub>well
05:49:18  <mdedetrich>also http://coffeescript.org/ has a lot of good stuff, surprisingly
05:49:18  <harbhub>you just eliminate lots of syntax
05:49:20  <harbhub>like ()
05:49:35  <mdedetrich>and proper for comprehension
05:49:53  <mdedetrich>and deals with type coercion properly (uses === by default)
05:49:54  <harbhub>yep it looks understandable now that i looked at the js first
05:49:57  <harbhub>so i knew what it did
05:50:02  <Sly>Thanks for the CoffeeScript plugin tip.
05:50:03  <harbhub>then i look at the coffee version
05:50:06  <Sly>Hadn't even thought about looking for it.
05:50:11  <mdedetrich>and other stuff, like existential operator operator
05:50:15  <harbhub>Sly: mdedetrich is the man
05:50:23  <harbhub>existential operator?
05:50:30  <mdedetrich>Sly: odds are, if you need it, a plugin for it exists
05:50:39  <mdedetrich>alert "I knew it!" if elvis?
05:50:47  <mdedetrich>the ? is an existential operator
05:50:47  <harbhub>so coffee lets me write js?
05:50:54  <mdedetrich>it returns true if the variable exists
05:50:56  <mdedetrich>else false
05:51:04  <mdedetrich>harbhub: coffee script directly translates into js
05:51:09  <harbhub>no i mean
05:51:11  <mdedetrich>and coffee script can use js and vice versa
05:51:13  <harbhub>could i write pure js
05:51:15  <harbhub>in a coffee file
05:51:17  <harbhub>and it works?
05:51:29  <harbhub>or it must adhere to the coffee format
05:51:55  <harbhub>i've read somewhere about compiled language that lets you write the original language OR use the shortcuts
05:51:58  <mdedetrich>well you can, but its pointless
05:52:02  <harbhub>ok
05:52:05  <mdedetrich>and almost never needed
05:52:06  <harbhub>for instance
05:52:12  <harbhub>var http = require('http')
05:52:19  <harbhub>would work in the coffee file?
05:52:22  <harbhub>or it has to be
05:52:26  <mdedetrich>you have to back tick it first
05:52:28  <harbhub>http = require 'http'
05:52:33  <mdedetrich>again read coffeescript.org
05:52:37  <harbhub>ok
05:52:45  <harbhub>so weird
05:52:46  <harbhub>no ;
05:53:07  <mdedetrich>blocks are determined by indentation, not ;
05:53:17  <mdedetrich>you can put in ;, however its optional
05:53:23  <harbhub>whoa
05:53:25  <harbhub>if then
05:53:31  <harbhub>if (ss.env == 'production') then ss.client.packAssets()
05:53:35  <harbhub>that looks beautiful
05:53:46  <mdedetrich>well js does have that, its called conditional operator
05:53:47  <harbhub>why the == instead of the ===
05:53:48  <harbhub>?
05:53:50  <mdedetrich>its just god damn ugly
05:54:02  <mdedetrich>harbhub: javascript retiredness with type coercsion
05:54:09  <mdedetrich>its beyond my scope to explain it
05:54:12  <jcrugzz>beauty is in the eyes of the beholder damnit
05:54:16  <harbhub>lol
05:54:24  <mdedetrich>jcrugzz: thats what she said
05:54:33  <jcrugzz>ha of course
05:54:34  <harbhub>well the === works for me
05:54:42  <mdedetrich>== compiles to ===
05:54:43  <harbhub>would it work here?
05:54:45  <mdedetrich>in coffeescript
05:54:47  <mdedetrich>most of the time
05:54:48  <harbhub>ok
05:54:49  <harbhub>nice
05:54:50  <jcrugzz>lol
05:54:51  <mdedetrich>it depends on the type
05:54:55  <jcrugzz>'most'
05:54:55  <harbhub>o.0
05:55:07  <coderarity>it guesses types?
05:55:07  <harbhub>=== is better
05:55:19  <mdedetrich>again javascript has retarded type coercion
05:55:22  <harbhub>i remember reading how the == sometimes gives erroneous result
05:55:24  <mdedetrich>when dealing with some types
05:55:43  <harbhub>yeah i'll just write the extra equal
05:55:46  <mdedetrich>coderarity: I think it only does it for strings
05:55:50  <coderarity>harbhub, coffee script will make it === automatically, he means
05:56:00  <coderarity>harbhub, just type == in coffee script
05:56:01  <harbhub>he said 'most' of the time
05:56:04  <mdedetrich>coderarity: like if you do "a" == "a"
05:56:06  <harbhub>i will for now
05:56:18  <coderarity>harbhub, it's supposed to be at the "right" times
05:56:23  <harbhub>i like the idea of coffee script
05:56:26  <jcrugzz>I personally dislike the extra complexity coffeescript brings. But it is a pretty language
05:56:34  <coderarity>i personally like javascript
05:56:35  <mdedetrich>jcrugzz: what do you mean complexity
05:56:36  <harbhub>i like the idea of it
05:56:38  <coderarity>'s syntax
05:56:46  <harbhub>js syntax is WAY better
05:56:48  <harbhub>but i like the idea
05:56:50  <mdedetrich>jcrugzz: its only more complex if you you think of it in terms of js syntax
05:56:51  <harbhub>of making if then
05:56:54  <mdedetrich>js syntax is terrible
05:57:01  <harbhub>js is sexy
05:57:07  <harbhub>best language i know
05:57:07  <mdedetrich>yes, but not the syntax
05:57:20  <mdedetrich>the syntax is overly verbose
05:57:35  <harbhub>mdedetrich
05:57:36  <jcrugzz>well if you understand javascript its creating new mappings to doing it differently. Cognitively i just feel its not efficient, I like understanding how things work underneath which is why its a personal preference.
05:57:44  <mdedetrich>especially creating functions, which is something you do regularly
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05:57:50  <mdedetrich>in js
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05:57:59  <harbhub>hmm
05:57:59  <mdedetrich>and heaving to deal with binding "this"
05:58:08  <jcrugzz>all very true points
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05:58:30  <harbhub>mdedetrich can we talk about the app.coffee file in the default you sent me?
05:58:42  <jcrugzz>you trade some structure for cleaner code. trading some clarity while losing other clarity
05:58:47  <jcrugzz>its a toss up
05:58:58  <mdedetrich>jcrugzz: if you use the assumption that coffee script is always right
05:59:01  <mdedetrich>its actually not an issue
05:59:12  <coderarity>i like how function () {} is obviously a function
05:59:20  <harbhub>yeah
05:59:22  <coderarity>() => and () -> are pretty close to each other
05:59:25  <mdedetrich>there hasn't actually been a reason why I need to know the underlying Javascript
05:59:26  <harbhub>()->
05:59:28  <harbhub>is weird
05:59:29  <jcrugzz>coderarity: agreed
05:59:59  <coderarity>mdedetrich, you have to understand the whole this binding problem to know when to use () -> and () =>
06:00:02  <mdedetrich>well I agree with that point, its similar to ruby in that regard
06:00:18  <coderarity>so you still have to think about it, either way
06:00:21  <mdedetrich>coderarity: yeah thats what I am talking about
06:00:31  <mdedetrich>well in javascript you still have to do it, its just very ugly
06:00:37  <coderarity>it's not really going to make things easier
06:00:44  <coderarity>easier to type, perhaps
06:00:51  <mdedetrich>it makes it obvious where you're scope actually is
06:01:02  <jcrugzz>I mean i personally used coffeescript with node before switching to javascript. I was coming from messing with ruby/python granted
06:01:05  <mdedetrich>and prevents mixing variables of same names in different scope
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06:01:15  <coderarity>i used javascript, then coffeescript, then javascript
06:01:18  <harbhub>jcrugzz you did it backwards lol
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06:01:26  <mdedetrich>I used javascript then coffeescript
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06:01:38  <harbhub>yeah screw coffee i dont think it does much
06:01:42  <harbhub>all i like is the if then
06:01:42  <jcrugzz>harbhub: yes lol. used javascript on the front end of django apps but that was it
06:01:58  <mmalecki>I used javascript, then javascript. I tried javascript too. ended up using javascript.
06:02:04  <harbhub>lol
06:02:08  <harbhub>guys
06:02:12  <harbhub>lets use js to make excel
06:02:14  <harbhub>but for the web
06:02:18  <jcrugzz>mmalecki: sounds like you had quite the struggle
06:02:18  <coderarity>mdedetrich, my biggest problem is just the whole idea of compiling into source code. you've got to have source coffee and then javascript compiled files
06:02:19  <harbhub>like google drive spreadsheet
06:02:21  <harbhub>but better
06:02:33  <mdedetrich>coderarity: is this in reference to making libraries?
06:02:39  <mdedetrich>coderarity: or personal code with an app
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06:02:55  <coderarity>mdedetrich, both, really
06:02:57  <Sly>Actually, mdedetrich. I think I found my combination. :x
06:03:01  <mdedetrich>for example, socket stream treats coffee files in the exact same way it treats js files
06:03:04  * devdazedjoined
06:03:05  <Sly>The Monokai theme with the background from the one I posted.
06:03:06  <coderarity>mdedetrich, i mean, you've got to recompile it locally every time you want to run it
06:03:08  <mdedetrich>you just put a .coffee file and it works
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06:03:15  <coderarity>mdedetrich, and you also have the problem of coffee modules
06:03:16  <mdedetrich>coderarity: if you are doing that, then you are doing it wrong
06:03:26  <harbhub>coderarity: that isn't true
06:03:32  <mdedetrich>I never compile my coffee files
06:03:32  <harbhub>you just use coffee files
06:03:41  <coderarity>oh yeah, that thing, my bad
06:03:50  <coderarity>coffee whatsitcalled.coffee
06:03:56  <harbhub>he is telling the truth, i'm using a default app mdedetrich made
06:04:03  <coderarity>but
06:04:06  <harbhub>that magically compiles coffee
06:04:10  <harbhub>and still works fast
06:04:12  <harbhub>somehow
06:04:24  <coderarity>mdedetrich, client-side coffeescript
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06:04:31  <harbhub>lol
06:04:33  <mdedetrich>coderarity: also works
06:04:34  <coderarity>mdedetrich, gotta compile it on the server and then serve javascript
06:04:43  <mdedetrich>coderarity: in the app I'm using
06:04:47  <mdedetrich>coderarity: flawlessly
06:04:56  <coderarity>mdedetrich, yeah, with a middleware, right?
06:05:11  <mdedetrich>coderarity: well yeah, but its completely transparent
06:05:29  <jcrugzz>mdedetrich: yes socketstream does some nice magic for you
06:05:35  <coderarity>mdedetrich, that's a ton of extra logic in your server just to not use javascript
06:05:49  <mdedetrich>mdedetrich: uh, its provided by socketstream
06:06:04  <mdedetrich>I don't have to personally dealing with compiling .coffee files at all
06:06:11  <mdedetrich>you just add one line into the app file
06:06:17  <mdedetrich>and another line into package.json
06:06:23  <LuckySMack_>Sly: this is what i have been trying, i just havent moved it to ST2 yet. im still making minor tweaks now and then http://minus.com/l3imKEUitogEb
06:06:30  <mdedetrich>it literally treats all of .coffee as .js
06:06:31  <coderarity>mdedetrich, and of course, you can compile coffeescript to javascript for modules, but when other people consider doing pull requests, coffeescript's output isn't the greatest thing to read
06:06:43  <jcrugzz>it all comes down to preference in the end, decision will always be purely subjective. Both javascript and cofeescript have their ups and downs
06:06:46  <mdedetrich>coderarity: they would pull coffeescript
06:07:08  <mdedetrich>Im not going to upload a compiled version of .js as the "src" if I am using socketstream
06:07:23  <mdedetrich>look, ask harbhub for the demo I sent him and look at it yourself
06:07:27  <harbhub>harbachscript
06:07:30  <harbhub>has ups, no downs
06:07:32  <harbhub>o.0
06:07:44  <harbhub>yea socketstream can do anything
06:07:44  <jcrugzz>lol, that is purely subjective
06:07:44  <coderarity>mdedetrich, i'll check out socketstream closer, sounds interesting
06:07:47  <harbhub>with little effort
06:07:52  <Sly>Is Pastebin down for anyone else?
06:07:56  <harbhub>coderarity: it is the most powerful thing ever
06:08:04  <harbhub>socketstream is a home run you'll love it
06:08:08  <harbhub>use any language/engine
06:08:10  <mdedetrich>coderarity: think of javascript like the binary of coffeescript
06:08:11  <jcrugzz>sly: seems to load up for me
06:08:16  <Sly>Strange.
06:08:19  <mdedetrich>coderarity: thats how socket stream treats it
06:08:25  <harbhub>mdedetrich
06:08:28  <Sly>I was trying to Pastebin this Monokai theme.
06:08:29  <mdedetrich>you do not deal with JS at all
06:08:31  <harbhub>can we talk about the app.coffee file
06:08:34  <harbhub>not in terms of coffee
06:08:37  <mdedetrich>after I get food
06:08:37  <harbhub>more in terms of the lofic
06:08:38  <harbhub>logic
06:08:40  <harbhub>ok
06:08:44  <harbhub>i want to understand the base app
06:08:47  <mdedetrich>coderarity: whats your email, I will send you the demo
06:08:54  <harbhub>then i want to add the text inputs nad register a user
06:09:02  <harbhub>and then authenticate them and store a cookie session
06:09:08  <harbhub>BAM that will make me happy
06:09:11  <mdedetrich>the app.coffee is completely server side logic
06:09:11  <LuckySMack_>Sly: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/pastebin.com
06:09:27  <harbhub>mdedetrich: lets pick apart the app though, piece by piece
06:09:36  <coderarity>mdedetrich, [email protected]
06:10:00  <harbhub>mdedetrich: app.coffee will be fast, but the rpc and message sending will be interesting to talk to you about in more detail
06:10:05  <coderarity>i think viewful could probably use a coffeescript thing
06:10:05  <Sly>LuckySMack_, already checked that. That's why I was asking.
06:10:33  <LuckySMack_>ah ok
06:10:43  <harbhub>oh shit
06:10:54  <harbhub>coffee makes objects without commas
06:10:57  <harbhub>and brackets
06:10:58  <harbhub>o.0
06:11:03  <harbhub>that shit cray
06:12:31  <coderarity>wow, jquery 1.8 is out?
06:12:38  <coderarity>i missed that one by a lot :P
06:12:56  <harbhub>lol
06:12:58  <harbhub>its been out
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06:14:41  <mmalecki>coderarity: dude
06:14:48  <mmalecki>2.0 is out too
06:14:53  <mdedetrich>coderarity: as I said before, if I had to manually deal with managing coffee source files into .js in any way, I wouldn't be using it
06:14:57  <mmalecki>var $ = document.querySelectorAll;
06:15:13  <mdedetrich>@mmalecki: lol
06:15:15  <coderarity>mmalecki, ++
06:15:15  <kohai>mmalecki has 121 beers
06:15:46  <Sly>http://pastebin.com/Xh5iq9iW @ mdedetrich
06:15:48  <Sly>You might like that one.
06:15:53  <coderarity>mdedetrich, socketstream looks like it's one of those things that gives you a lot of structure to your app
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06:16:10  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: it gives none
06:16:13  <Sly>I was trying to take a screenshot of it, but apparently the screenshot application is having issues.
06:16:19  <mdedetrich>coderarity: no forced mvc, nothig
06:16:32  <coderarity>mdedetrich, i think i will add jade, stylus, and coffee to viewful
06:16:34  <mdedetrich>coderarity: it provides a single variable for communication, that is rpc
06:16:37  <coderarity>mdedetrich, i meant, like "If you had written a resize action in /server/rpc/image/processor.js you'd call it with ss.rpc('image.processor.resize')."
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06:16:53  <harbhub>what is viewful
06:16:55  <coderarity>lke, a folder structure and stuff
06:17:07  <mdedetrich>coderarity: oh that yeah, but its for sanity reasons
06:17:11  <mmalecki>I just laughted in my neighbor's face
06:17:12  <Sly>https://github.com/flatiron/viewful @ harbhub
06:17:14  <coderarity>harbhub, https://github.com/flatiron/viewful
06:17:27  <coderarity>man, 2 seconds late
06:17:34  <mdedetrich>coderarity: you are meant to structure your code into modules and folders, just like you do in other programming languages
06:17:34  <mmalecki>he was actually *going* to his job
06:17:44  <mmalecki>like, leaving his apartment
06:17:50  <harbhub>cool
06:18:04  <harbhub>mdedetrich
06:18:06  <mmalecki>LIKE IT'S 90s, I NO RITE?!
06:18:18  <coderarity>mmalecki, be careful
06:18:25  <coderarity>mmalecki, one of these days it'll be a google employee
06:18:26  <mdedetrich>I was actually going to go get food
06:18:29  <mdedetrich>now I am going to go get food
06:18:32  <harbhub>so the ss.client.define
06:18:34  <harbhub>ok
06:18:34  <coderarity>mmalecki, "we have a pool AND a snack bar"
06:18:34  <mdedetrich>hmmm, burito
06:18:51  <mmalecki>coderarity: just wait until nodejitsu gets a pool AND a snack bar.
06:19:07  <coderarity>mmalecki, DO WANT.
06:19:21  <coderarity>also, a slide would be pretty sweet, but i'm not going to be picky here
06:19:39  <Sly>rofl
06:20:00  <mmalecki>hell yeah we're getting a freakin' slide.
06:20:24  <mmalecki>I hope Charlie isn't going to be mad at me for expensifying that.
06:20:29  <harbhub>what is cli? is that short for client?
06:20:38  <harbhub>flatiron.plugins.cli
06:20:56  <mmalecki>harbhub: command line interface
06:21:00  <harbhub>when is nodejitsu gonna hire me? i wanna play pool with you guys :) hehe
06:21:01  <Sly>CLI = Command Line Interface
06:21:05  <harbhub>ok
06:22:07  <mmalecki>coderarity: while I'm buying all that stuff, do you want a playground too?
06:22:25  <mmalecki>obviously, I'm adding it all to expenses.
06:22:32  <coderarity>mmalecki, does monkey bars over the pool count?
06:22:36  <coderarity>or a trampoline
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06:22:45  <mmalecki>coderarity: we can get both, I believe
06:23:07  <mmalecki>until company credit card is drained.
06:23:14  <Sly>rofl @ monkey bars over the pool
06:23:21  <Sly>That's an accident waiting to happen.
06:23:35  * Slygets bag of popcorn.
06:24:14  <mmalecki>coderarity: also, where do we place the office? I'd vote Miami
06:24:21  <coderarity>mmalecki, i'm down with that
06:24:27  <harbhub>MIAMI!
06:24:29  <harbhub>come to me :)
06:24:45  <harbhub>if you guys move here, i will be a your intern o.0
06:24:56  <harbhub>we have beach, beautiful women
06:25:07  <harbhub>star island/fischer island/etc
06:25:34  <mmalecki>coderarity: cool. I just bought an estate. I'm wondering what that $ -178 741.76 means on company account balance?
06:25:44  <coderarity>mmalecki, probably a software bug
06:25:48  <Sly>RoFL
06:26:08  <mmalecki>okay cool. cause I didn't start buying office furniture yet
06:26:12  <harbhub>should i use flatiron?
06:26:21  <mmalecki>you think that expensive desk made out of black wood will do?
06:26:34  <Sly>No.
06:26:39  <Sly>We must have a touch screen desk.
06:26:47  <coderarity>mmalecki, ^
06:26:53  <harbhub>Sly: you are part of nodejitsu?
06:26:53  <mmalecki>oh, like CSI and shit?
06:26:54  <mmalecki>cool
06:27:05  <mmalecki>where do I order those tho?
06:28:21  <Sly>harbhub, no. I was just generally speaking.
06:28:49  <harbhub>you guys really should move to miami
06:29:06  <Sly>At least Miami is closer to me than San Fran.
06:29:06  <mmalecki>harbhub: hq is in NY
06:29:18  <coderarity>mmalecki, these look pretty sweet http://www.thetoyzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/BlackWidowdesk.jpg
06:30:04  <mmalecki>however! I'll be visiting internet friends when I get to USA. if there are AirBnB which won't make me go bankrupt in Miami, I can drop by
06:30:20  <harbhub>you arent in the US?
06:30:21  <coderarity>mmalecki, if you come to texas, let me know :P
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06:30:33  <mmalecki>coderarity: you can be sure as hell I will
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06:30:37  <mmalecki>harbhub: nope, Poland
06:30:42  <harbhub>cool
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06:31:03  <mmalecki>yeah, I enjoy riding polar bears
06:31:18  <wibuni>lol
06:31:23  <wibuni>good morning everyone;)
06:31:29  <mmalecki>too bad they show up in cities during winter only
06:31:31  <mmalecki>yo wibuni
06:31:48  <Sly>Good morning, wibuni.
06:31:54  <mmalecki>indutny, who lives in Russia uses them to commute on a daily basis
06:32:23  <mmalecki>he was complaining that it's hard to find a parking spot for polar bears in Moscow recently
06:32:35  <wibuni>"Microsoft warns of using IE" :D finally they got it!
06:32:50  <harbhub>microsoft is retarded
06:32:56  <coderarity>mmalecki, ride the coca cola bear :P
06:33:00  <harbhub>talk about 'brand dependency'
06:33:39  <mmalecki>coderarity: they don't get along too well with those grizzly bears I keep at home
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06:36:41  <harbhub>damn coffee script
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06:38:11  <mmalecki>anyway, back to coding
06:38:12  <cgcoder>hey guys, I'm new to jit su and node js
06:38:21  <coderarity>cgcoder, hi
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06:38:29  <Sly>mmalecki, what you working on?
06:38:41  <mdedetrich>I am back
06:38:41  <cgcoder>when I run user confirm command I am getting an error about unable to verify leaf signature
06:38:43  <mdedetrich>and better then ever
06:38:50  <harbhub>mdedetrich i need ya
06:38:51  <Sly>Welcome back, mdedetrich.
06:38:51  <harbhub>lol
06:38:56  <coderarity>cgcoder, can you paste the complete output to gist.github.com?
06:38:57  <harbhub>again i cant get the server started
06:39:02  <harbhub>now that i compiled to js
06:39:09  <harbhub>it wont run the app.coffee properly
06:39:13  <harbhub>fails on http
06:39:25  <harbhub>i had this problem before, but now it came back!
06:39:45  <mmalecki>Sly: some internal, boring stuff for managing servers
06:39:53  <mmalecki>when I finish that, I hope to fall asleep
06:39:56  <Sly>Ah.
06:40:05  <Sly>I should have been asleep long ago.
06:40:21  <mmalecki>well, it's 8 AM here
06:40:28  <mmalecki>so, same here, I guess
06:40:38  <cgcoder>@coderarity: here it is https://gist.github.com/3741626
06:40:43  <mmalecki>except I totally fucked up my sleep schedule now
06:40:51  <mmalecki>and I have a flight in less than 24 hours.
06:40:57  <coderarity>mmalecki, i've been stuck with a sleep schedule like that for weeks :\
06:41:13  <coderarity>i got to sleeping at day and now my body doesn't want to go back
06:41:27  <mmalecki>I have to power through tho
06:41:44  <mmalecki>this gets harder as I have a drinking arrangement today
06:41:56  <Sly>mmalecki, yeah. Mine has been fucked for a few days. xD
06:42:02  <harbhub>i need to understand rpc
06:42:05  <harbhub>i know it is the way
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06:42:23  <mmalecki>harbhub: depends on what are you trying to do
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06:42:42  <harbhub>mmalecki: i can tell you briefly what i am trying to o
06:42:43  <harbhub>do
06:42:51  <mmalecki>harbhub: please do
06:43:01  <harbhub>make a web app that you go to the URI, lets say harbhub.com
06:43:07  <coderarity>cgcoder, do you have an HTTPS proxy or a local HTTPS certificate or something?
06:43:08  <harbhub>you can login or sign up
06:43:14  <harbhub>or, if you have a cookie stored
06:43:17  <harbhub>it will auto log you in
06:43:23  <harbhub>lets say you are a newcomer
06:43:25  <harbhub>you signup
06:43:36  <harbhub>you fill in text input and the password input and the email input
06:43:49  <harbhub>and the password gets hashed and stored in the mongodb (or redis?)
06:43:54  <harbhub>so you are now stored
06:43:56  <mmalecki>cgcoder: try running that with --protocol http
06:43:58  <harbhub>then
06:44:05  <harbhub>when you are logged in
06:44:20  <mmalecki>jitsu users confirm blah blah --protocol http
06:44:22  <harbhub>you can upload audio files, images files, and add comments to the files
06:44:33  <harbhub>so basically the idea is to upload sound
06:44:44  <harbhub>you can also subscribe to your friends
06:44:46  <mmalecki>still not seeing the need of rpc
06:44:55  <harbhub>so that when they post/upload an audio file
06:44:58  <harbhub>you can listen to it
06:45:12  <harbhub>that is what i want
06:45:26  <harbhub>simple audio upload (attach a comment and an image if desired)
06:45:37  <harbhub>store that audio file in a filebase like rackspace
06:45:54  <harbhub>store the user authentication info in a mongodb or some persisitent db
06:46:01  <harbhub>that scales horizontally (mongohq)
06:46:13  <harbhub>let the users subscirbe to other users
06:46:19  <harbhub>and have an activity feed
06:46:26  <harbhub>so that when a friend uploads an audio file
06:46:40  <harbhub>you can see it in the activity feed and click it to hear what they said
06:46:52  <harbhub>finally, let the user record using their device's microphone
06:46:56  <harbhub>so i can go to harbhub.com
06:46:58  <harbhub>log in
06:47:05  <harbhub>click the record button
06:47:07  <harbhub>talk
06:47:11  <harbhub>click the stop button
06:47:13  <mmalecki>voxer already does that
06:47:18  <harbhub>how?
06:47:24  <harbhub>i need to do that
06:47:30  <mmalecki>not sure about commenting part or images, but in general voxer does that
06:47:34  <mmalecki>dunno, it's a service
06:47:41  <mmalecki>I never used it
06:47:43  <mdedetrich>what are you people talking about
06:47:51  <Sly>No clue, mdedetrich.
06:47:52  <harbhub>how would you go about it though?
06:47:54  <harbhub>lol
06:47:56  <harbhub>guys
06:47:56  <mdedetrich>roc is central to socketstream
06:48:00  <mdedetrich>*rpc
06:48:05  <harbhub>mdedetrich
06:48:05  <mmalecki>I'd use programming most likely.
06:48:08  <mdedetrich>its how you send data back and from the cilent
06:48:13  <mmalecki>which part are you unsure about?
06:48:18  <harbhub>well
06:48:22  <harbhub>the subscribe part
06:48:37  <Sly>Ugh. About to have to restart.
06:48:38  <harbhub>the audio upload that gets posted to other users part
06:49:05  <mdedetrich>w/e
06:49:06  <mmalecki>store array of users followed in user's record
06:49:09  <mdedetrich>back to work for me
06:49:47  <mmalecki>then in a background job, after user adds content, scan for users following the poster
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06:50:09  <mmalecki>and push that to their activity feeds. in redis, I guess
06:50:26  <mmalecki>keep in mind that it grows pretty quickly. you should probably cap the collection
06:50:44  <harbhub>the followers grows quickly?
06:50:54  <mmalecki>activity feed grows quickly
06:51:00  <harbhub>ok
06:51:17  <harbhub>well yeah i still do not fully grasp the logic
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06:51:28  <harbhub>the activity feed is a collection for each user?
06:51:34  <mmalecki>yes
06:51:53  <harbhub>so you need to create a new collection for each user to have a unique activ feed?
06:52:17  <mmalecki>yeah, that's how I'd do it
06:52:28  <harbhub>so when a user signs up, i need to add them to the authentication collection, but also create them a collection for their activity feed
06:52:30  <mmalecki>I implemented activity feed once, and I tell ya, those are bitch to work with
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06:52:42  <harbhub>yep i am getting stuck with it
06:53:00  <harbhub>also, since i need scalability
06:53:05  <harbhub>how do i store the audio files?
06:53:19  <mmalecki>s3, cloudfiles, blobstore?
06:53:23  <harbhub>mind you, each user will need to have a collection of their audio file uploads
06:53:25  <mmalecki>riak?
06:53:30  <mmalecki>dunno :)
06:53:30  <harbhub>rackspace?
06:53:38  <harbhub>riak i've heard of
06:53:42  <mmalecki>cloudfiles is racksoace
06:53:45  <mmalecki>*rackspace
06:53:51  <mmalecki>anyway, I gotta go back to work
06:54:40  <harbhub>ok thanks
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07:01:16  <harbhub>mdedetrich: i want to understand rpc with ss
07:01:23  <mmalecki>protip for whenever you come to Poznań: there are no sandwich deliveries
07:01:35  <harbhub>it seems that 'libs' are containers for code that is pre-written
07:01:39  <ralphtheninja>sup? does anyone know the future of hook.io now that marak is gone?
07:01:41  <harbhub>for instance, jquery was in a lib
07:01:46  <harbhub>and reset.css was in a lib
07:02:05  <mmalecki>ralphtheninja: we've got that covered, don't worry. it won't be left without a maintainer.
07:02:05  <harbhub>the rpc in the example app uses exports.actions
07:02:25  <ralphtheninja>mmalecki: thanks, all I needed to know :)
07:02:48  <mmalecki>ralphtheninja: pleasure :)
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07:06:05  <deoxxa>hey mmalecki
07:06:18  <mmalecki>sup deoxxa
07:06:18  <deoxxa>your json-stream is :<
07:06:24  <mmalecki>deoxxa: oh :( ?
07:06:36  <mmalecki>deoxxa: what's wrong with it?
07:06:44  <deoxxa>it doesn't have pause or resume or drain and such
07:07:02  <mmalecki>deoxxa: https://github.com/mmalecki/json-stream/commit/5af15a68991afccc875e90d7d9d392bcb108174f yo
07:07:05  <deoxxa>so if you put it in the middle of a couple of other streams, backpressure goes weeeeird
07:07:15  <mmalecki>deoxxa: I can release.
07:07:18  <deoxxa>oh
07:07:20  <deoxxa>that would be awesome
07:07:40  * deoxxasits
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07:08:15  <Sly>deoxxa, <3
07:08:19  <deoxxa>\o/
07:10:52  <mmalecki>deoxxa: published as 0.1.0
07:10:59  * deoxxaupdates
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07:11:02  <mmalecki>keep in mind that module.exports is a factory now
07:11:45  <deoxxa>ok
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07:13:10  <deoxxa>any reason you didn't just shove the standard `if (!(this instanceof JSONStream)) { return new JSONStream(); }' at the top?
07:13:30  <mmalecki>dunno, meh I guess
07:13:30  <deoxxa>not complaining, just curious
07:13:34  <deoxxa>everyone seems to do it differently
07:13:38  <mmalecki>didn't think of it really
07:13:45  * deoxxanods
07:13:53  <mmalecki>I like separating constructor and factory tho
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07:14:11  <deoxxa>yeah that makes sense
07:14:28  <deoxxa>awesome, works now
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07:15:26  <mmalecki>backpressure is hard dawg
07:15:37  * blevsjoined
07:16:13  <mmalecki>ANYWAY, JOB
07:16:15  <mmalecki>AND SHIT
07:17:18  <deoxxa>heh
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07:22:57  <yawnt>hai
07:23:04  <coderarity>hi
07:23:23  <yawnt>sup?
07:23:36  * deoxxanods
07:23:46  <yawnt>lol
07:23:57  <yawnt>i can't believe i can actually stream from nowvideo
07:25:40  * mmaleckiwaves
07:25:41  <Sly>yawnt, <333333
07:27:11  <yawnt>SO MUCH ATTENTION
07:27:20  <yawnt>i'm flattered
07:27:21  <yawnt>lol
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07:29:21  <mdedetrich>I love you too man yawnt
07:29:40  <mmalecki>yawnt: <beer>!
07:29:55  <mmalecki>THAT'S REAL LOVE, KIDS!
07:30:22  <yawnt>lol
07:30:37  <yawnt>i checked mmalecki
07:30:41  <yawnt>landing @ 19.45
07:30:48  <mmalecki>yawnt: coolio
07:30:51  <yawnt>i only have hand luggage
07:30:53  <yawnt>so no waiting n shit
07:31:02  <mmalecki>wait, I think there's a party or something at that time...
07:31:07  <mmalecki>dunno really
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07:31:14  <mmalecki>have to figure out still
07:31:18  <yawnt>we'll seee
07:31:19  <mmalecki>dscape: ^ ?
07:31:20  <yawnt>*see
07:31:29  <yawnt>anywya i can always show up
07:31:31  <yawnt>can't i?
07:31:31  <yawnt>;_;
07:32:00  <mmalecki>dunno lol
07:32:06  <mmalecki>I'm not really awake
07:32:19  <mmalecki>I just managed to transfer my mind into vim
07:32:38  <mmalecki>I don't want to transfer it to gmail, that's an expensive context switch
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07:35:45  <yawnt>mmalecki: wat?
07:35:49  <yawnt>you use gmail for gmail?
07:36:12  <mmalecki>yawnt: indeed I do, I love search
07:36:18  <yawnt>https://github.com/IsaacG/irssi-gmail
07:36:21  <mmalecki>if I could find something better tho
07:36:23  <yawnt><3
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07:37:12  <deoxxa>oh crap
07:37:20  <yawnt>WHERE?
07:37:21  <deoxxa>i can't remember whether i booked flights to singapore or not
07:37:23  <yawnt>ah
07:37:24  <yawnt>lol
07:37:26  <deoxxa>and now i don't know how to find out
07:37:27  <deoxxa>._.
07:37:29  <yawnt>deoxxa: mail?
07:37:36  <yawnt>they send confirmation email
07:37:37  <deoxxa>i have like 999999999 itinerary mails
07:37:37  <mmalecki>deoxxa: email/cc
07:37:42  <mmalecki>deoxxa: cc records?
07:37:47  <deoxxa>ah, that might do it
07:37:49  <coderarity>deoxxa, check for huge bill?
07:37:57  <yawnt>haveibookedyetornot.com
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07:38:43  <deoxxa>no, looks like i haven't yet
07:38:44  <deoxxa>hooray
07:38:49  <yawnt>MOAR MONEY TO SPEND
07:39:00  <deoxxa>haha, i'm not paying for it anyway
07:39:05  <yawnt>:|
07:39:12  <deoxxa>bossman is paying
07:39:17  <yawnt>so lucky
07:39:25  <deoxxa>:3
07:41:07  <mmalecki>nothing weird with boss paying for business trips :)
07:41:19  <mmalecki>which reminds me, I have to book flights to Dublin
07:41:22  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: there?
07:41:38  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: when are you flying in? what airlines
07:41:39  <mmalecki>?
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07:42:45  <mmalecki>WHY DO PEOPLE SLEEP
07:43:04  <yawnt>i have to buy stuff
07:43:14  <mmalecki>I have to eat stuff
07:43:15  <yawnt>i don't even have soap to wash dishes
07:43:15  <yawnt>lol
07:43:42  <mmalecki>I have 4 flights to book >.<
07:43:51  <mmalecki>freakin' awesome. I hate it.
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07:52:10  <booyaa>dude are you on some frequent flyer programme?
07:52:28  <mmalecki>booyaa: nah
07:52:29  <booyaa>i think dscape is a bit of a frequent flyer ninja
07:52:45  <mmalecki>hij1nx is more badass
07:52:48  <booyaa>hahah
07:53:00  <booyaa>has he got his own club lounge?
07:53:33  <mmalecki>lulz
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08:14:35  <mdedetrich>mmalecki: where are you going
08:15:11  <mmalecki>mdedetrich: dublin, prague, vacation
08:15:53  <mdedetrich>mmalecki: nice, I have been to all of those places myself
08:16:12  <mdedetrich>you will love prague
08:16:22  <mmalecki>I bet I will :)
08:18:00  <mdedetrich>Im czech myself (well czech nationality)
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08:19:50  <mmalecki>mdedetrich: oh, sweet. you live in there now?
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08:21:04  <mdedetrich>nah, in Australia
08:23:39  <mmalecki>hah, I've heard it's a really cool country
08:23:45  <mmalecki>never been there tho
08:23:55  <mmalecki> * [new branch] 10-its-too-late-to-come-up-with-a-meaningful-name -> 10-its-too-late-to-come-up-with-a-meaningful-name
08:23:59  <mmalecki>^ well.
08:24:15  <yawnt>mmalecki: beer in prague is like 0.50€ a liter
08:24:28  <yawnt>also i love prague.. beautiful city.. it has something misterious
08:24:31  <mmalecki>okay, let me pack up my stuff...
08:24:53  <mmalecki>I like the drug policy
08:25:05  <Nexxy>did someone say drugs?
08:25:06  <mmalecki>but I probably shouldn't say that
08:25:10  <mmalecki>Nexxy: NO
08:25:14  <Nexxy>OH, COME ON
08:25:18  <mmalecki>Nexxy: NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG
08:25:23  * Nexxydoes not
08:25:24  <mmalecki>Nexxy: but yeah, I did.
08:25:30  <Nexxy>you would.
08:25:32  <mmalecki>OKAY, THERE YOU GO
08:26:08  <mmalecki>Nexxy: what conferences are you going to be on this year?
08:26:21  <Nexxy>mmalecki, speaking @ jsconfeu & nodedublin
08:26:28  <yawnt>Nexxy: must have a highlight hook on /drugs?/
08:26:31  <mmalecki>Nexxy: see you at nodedublin <3 !
08:26:32  <Nexxy>yawnt, nope lol
08:26:36  <Nexxy>mmalecki, oh cool :D
08:27:21  <Nexxy>yawnt, I just have a tiling window manager
08:27:22  <mmalecki>Nexxy: indeed it is
08:27:29  <Nexxy>yawnt, so I see IRC most of teh time
08:27:41  <yawnt>Nexxy: WOW THEN YOU MUST BE SO COOL
08:27:50  <yawnt>everyone should use a tiling wm
08:27:52  <Nexxy>yawnt, you already knew that
08:28:09  <yawnt>they're supah useful
08:28:21  <Nexxy>ya
08:28:45  <Nexxy>mmalecki, did you know that I work for a ninja related company now!?
08:29:00  <mmalecki>Nexxy: OH YOU DO?
08:29:04  <Nexxy>YEP!
08:29:05  <mmalecki>when did we hire you?
08:29:14  <Nexxy>you never did!
08:29:16  <Nexxy>http://ninjablocks.com/ !
08:29:17  <mmalecki>when I was drunk, right? behind my back?!
08:29:19  <mmalecki>oh.
08:29:21  <mmalecki>:(
08:29:24  <Nexxy>haha ;P
08:29:48  <mmalecki>Nexxy: now. that's fucking cool
08:29:50  <yawnt>inb4 nodejitsu becomes ninjutsu
08:30:02  <Nexxy>mmalecki, I know.
08:30:10  <mmalecki>Nexxy: hire me!!!111
08:30:15  <Nexxy>mmalecki, lol!
08:30:24  <yawnt>gotta go buy some stuff
08:30:27  <Nexxy>talk to thatguydan
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08:30:31  <mmalecki>(kidding obviously, nodejitsu > *)
08:30:33  <yawnt>then to the college library
08:30:36  <yawnt>later
08:30:41  <mmalecki>later
08:30:44  <Nexxy>baii
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09:41:37  <yawnt>bach
09:42:38  <deoxxa>finally got around to setting up a private npm registry
09:42:51  <deoxxa>this makes deploying stuff at work a million times easier
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09:43:45  <mmalecki>indeed :)
09:44:00  <yawnt>dafuq happened
09:44:05  <yawnt>freenode kicked me
09:48:53  <booyaa>haters
09:48:58  <mmalecki>http://fundir.org/gallery,dom_w_wiezy_cisnien,6749,0,0.html it's in polish, but look at those pics
09:49:01  <mmalecki>dang man
09:49:20  <booyaa>sfw?
09:49:29  <booyaa>don't be trolling me mmalecki
09:49:33  <mmalecki>yeah
09:49:37  <mmalecki>it's a house
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10:00:06  <klaemo>mmalecki: are you gonna buy that place when you're all rich and famous with nodejitsu? ;)
10:00:22  <coderarity>i doubt the creator is selling
10:00:50  <Sly>"Hacker Tower"
10:00:58  <mmalecki>klaemo: I definitely would
10:01:08  <mmalecki>but do programmers get famous, ever?
10:01:14  <Sly>http://s7.directupload.net/images/120914/aqszcm9u.jpg
10:01:19  <Sly>They even have the Octocat logo ready for you.
10:01:29  <mmalecki>lol
10:01:30  <klaemo>mmalecki: only zuckerberg did, i guess
10:01:38  <coderarity>did bill gates actually write code?
10:02:04  <klaemo>The Ivory Tower of Node :D
10:02:47  <Sly>I like that, klaemo.
10:02:49  <Sly>Catchy.
10:03:08  <klaemo>is that place in poland, mmalecki?
10:04:03  <mmalecki>klaemo: no idea
10:04:20  <mmalecki>I guess I can't afford it yet anyway xD
10:04:48  <Sly>Steenokkerzeel Belgium
10:04:50  <Sly>Is where it's at.
10:05:16  <klaemo>Sly: you just made up that name, right? haha ;)
10:05:21  <Sly>Nah.
10:05:29  <Sly>Reverse image searched on Google.
10:05:41  <Sly>http://thechive.com/2012/09/14/drop-by-anytime-my-house-is-the-water-tower-on-fifth-20-photos/
10:06:53  <klaemo>nice
10:07:57  <Sly>http://freshome.com/2012/09/07/stunning-water-tower-conversion-in-belgium-bursting-with-modern-details/
10:08:06  <Sly>Another article about it that actually lists the place I posted.
10:09:39  <mmalecki>well, fuck
10:09:52  <mmalecki>I'm tired as fuck but too caffeinated to fall asleep
10:10:02  <Sly>I was sleepy earlier..
10:10:04  <Sly>And was going to go to sleep..
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10:10:12  <Sly>But decided to stay up and try to get my sleep schedule straightened out.
10:10:20  <Sly>Especially since I have to be up at 5am on Thursday for our trip.
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10:11:37  <mmalecki>yeah, the thing is, I need at least 10 hours to get it fixed
10:11:44  <mmalecki>not sure if I can power through
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10:12:05  <mmalecki>but also like, I have a plane in 20 hours
10:12:05  <coderarity>mmalecki, i hear water helps keep you awake too
10:12:15  <coderarity>works for me
10:12:21  <mmalecki>btw, anyone here going to onGameStart, per chance?
10:12:36  <Sly>You have 10 hours.. I have about 14 hours. xD
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10:13:07  <mmalecki>Sly: try sleeping for like, 30 minutes
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10:13:13  <mmalecki>it could help
10:13:21  <Sly>Yeah.. right.
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10:13:27  <Sly>When I go to sleep, I go to sleep.
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10:13:44  <Sly>My body doesn't like to wake up until my 8 hours are in.
10:13:45  <Sly>xD
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10:14:13  <Sly>^ Can we stop this?
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10:14:33  <mmalecki>if that doesn't stop soon, I'll ban him
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10:14:47  <mmalecki>looks like it's coming from nodejitsu...
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10:15:19  <mmalecki>no idea how to track that back to a specific app - ip address is a joyent outer node
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10:15:49  <coderarity>just silence it
10:15:55  <coderarity>oh, wait, lol
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10:16:18  <mmalecki>not sure if I can silence joins and parts
10:16:42  <Sly>+D
10:17:07  <Sly>Not sure if that'll work on this IRCd.
10:17:19  <mmalecki>there we go
10:17:28  <wibuni>i don't see anything :D
10:17:31  <mmalecki>if it was a crashing application, our API stopped it
10:17:48  <mmalecki>smart cloud yo
10:19:29  <Sly>idk what it was.. but I know it was at least annoying.
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10:52:30  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/utile/compare/47cdd0db1dee...6f2db77930ef
10:52:30  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/utile/builds/2490533
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10:57:31  <deoxxa>oh god
10:57:40  <deoxxa>the place naer me makes amazing pizza
10:57:54  <deoxxa>it's like i'm biting heaven
10:59:44  <mmalecki>deoxxa: do want
10:59:59  <deoxxa>i got the "mighty duck" pizza
11:00:06  <mmalecki>lolwat
11:00:17  <deoxxa>it's got peking duck, plum sauce, jalepenos, spring onion and capsicum
11:00:23  <deoxxa>and it's greaaaaaat
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11:02:14  <Sly>God.
11:02:20  <Sly>I was holding that burp in the entire time I was on the phone with my mom.
11:05:07  <coderarity>deoxxa, i think whether you think of the animated series or the older movie when someone says "mighty duck" tells you something about a person
11:05:16  <deoxxa>i know
11:05:28  <deoxxa>most of the pizzas there are named after movies
11:05:31  <deoxxa>or things in movies
11:05:48  <coderarity>deoxxa, did you think about the movie?
11:05:48  <deoxxa>my other favourite is the "royale with cheese"
11:05:55  <deoxxa>i... did
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11:06:10  <deoxxa>should i have thought about it more?
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11:06:19  <yawnt>yes
11:06:21  <kokotron>forgot there even was an animated series...
11:06:24  <deoxxa>:<
11:06:42  <deoxxa>i used to have a mighty duck basketball shirt
11:06:43  <coderarity>deoxxa, if you're like my age the animated series was airing when you were a kid
11:06:51  <yawnt>what're we talking about?
11:06:53  <deoxxa>i'm 23 :3
11:06:57  <yawnt>sure
11:07:00  <yawnt>23
11:07:01  <yawnt>sure
11:07:08  <deoxxa>in reality i'm 95
11:07:09  <coderarity>yeah man, that's what i'm saying
11:07:10  <kokotron>wasn't anything like the movies, more of a teenage mutant ninja turtle rip-off
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11:07:22  <yawnt>i knew it, deoxxa !
11:07:31  <yawnt>you sound like the wise chinese man
11:07:34  <deoxxa>i was alive during hitler AMAA
11:07:41  <coderarity>you were probably like 10
11:07:51  <yawnt>lol
11:07:52  <kokotron>which is even stranger since the turles favorite food is pizza. . .
11:08:05  <yawnt>turtles?
11:08:08  <yawnt>:>
11:08:22  <kokotron>the mighty ducks cartoon was like a TMNT rip-off imo
11:08:23  <deoxxa>i never understood the tmnts' masks
11:08:25  <yawnt>i should try to feed a turtle with a pizza
11:08:27  <yawnt>lol
11:08:30  <Sly>Does anyone know if there is a module or tool that exists that will clone all of a user's repositories on Github?
11:08:31  <deoxxa>it's like, you're an 8 foot high turtle
11:08:35  <deoxxa>that mask isn't doing shit man
11:08:36  <yawnt>see how that works
11:08:37  <Sly>For instance, if I wanted to grab all of the flatiron repos?
11:08:57  <yawnt>Sly: yeah it's called bash
11:08:59  <yawnt>:D
11:09:02  <Sly>rofl.
11:09:03  <deoxxa>^^ this
11:09:03  <coderarity>Sly, really easy script to write
11:09:18  <Sly>coderarity, I know that. I just wanted to see if one already existed.
11:09:19  <Sly>:P
11:09:27  <yawnt>write one
11:09:30  <yawnt>call it
11:09:34  <yawnt>DownEmAll
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11:09:42  <yawnt>:E
11:10:02  <coderarity>Sly, https://api.github.com/users/coderarity/repos
11:10:08  <coderarity>Sly, just replace coderarity with whoever
11:10:14  <Sly>coderarity, I know. :P
11:10:37  <yawnt>coderarity: real men would curl github and parse html with sed or awk
11:10:57  <Sly>lulz, yawnt.
11:11:10  <Sly>That was my original thought. Then I was like "No. Has to be a better way."
11:11:12  <deoxxa>grep + cut = fun
11:11:13  <coderarity>i don't think that works
11:11:48  <yawnt>coderarity: which way?
11:11:57  <coderarity>well, it would be hard, anyways
11:12:16  <yawnt>deoxxa: you can't really parse html with grep because of < and >
11:12:19  <coderarity>it'd be possible, but they collapse the repositories after you have too many, so it's not exactly uniform
11:12:23  <coderarity>there's no pagination from what I can tell
11:12:38  <yawnt>coderarity: the header is the same afaik
11:12:40  <deoxxa>yawnt: don't need to, just grep for something that's in the link and use cut to get the right part of the line
11:12:58  <deoxxa>yawnt: awful shell hacks are my speciality
11:12:59  <yawnt>it's just the div beneath the repo that gets cut
11:13:17  <yawnt>deoxxa: im guessing your middle name is 'zsh'
11:13:55  <coderarity>you could even sort them into forks and sources
11:14:03  <deoxxa>yawnt: https://github.com/deoxxa/sh-semver/blob/develop/semver-helpers.sh ;)
11:14:04  <coderarity>github has good HTML habits
11:14:06  <coderarity>github__
11:14:09  <coderarity>github++
11:14:09  <kohai>github has 1 beer
11:14:12  <coderarity>:P
11:14:21  <yawnt>i write c++
11:14:27  <yawnt>uh
11:14:35  <coderarity>c++ is what I write
11:14:35  <kohai>c has 18 beers
11:14:40  <yawnt>dat
11:14:41  <coderarity>:P
11:14:43  <yawnt>anyway
11:14:47  <yawnt>i will actually
11:14:56  <yawnt>starting compilers in < 2 weeks
11:15:01  <yawnt>Stanford uni
11:15:12  <yawnt>also starting Functional Prog w/ Scala
11:15:17  <yawnt>today :|
11:15:25  <yawnt>i need 48h days
11:15:50  <deoxxa>it is done
11:15:55  <deoxxa>you get 3.5 of them per week
11:16:17  <yawnt>you must be really fun at parties
11:16:18  <coderarity>if i end up at A&M I get to write C++
11:16:18  <yawnt>...
11:16:25  <deoxxa>haha
11:16:28  <yawnt>A&M?
11:16:34  <coderarity>Texas A&M
11:16:40  <yawnt>what's that
11:16:45  <yawnt>i mean
11:16:50  <yawnt>im guessing a college
11:16:51  <coderarity>it's a college
11:16:53  <deoxxa>pooniversity :x
11:16:53  <coderarity>Bjarne Stroustrup's here
11:16:53  <yawnt>but what kind?
11:16:56  <coderarity>he created the thing
11:17:02  <yawnt>cool
11:17:08  * deoxxafailed high school
11:17:14  <yawnt>ponyversity?
11:17:21  <deoxxa>pwniversity
11:17:24  <deoxxa>now that, i'd go to
11:17:28  <yawnt>where you study My little pony as the main subject
11:17:47  <yawnt>> IN WHAT YEAR WAS THE FIRST EPISODE PUBLISHED?
11:17:52  <yawnt>>1998
11:17:55  <yawnt>>WRONG
11:17:58  <yawnt>:(
11:18:00  <coderarity>2010
11:18:03  <yawnt>it'd be horrible
11:18:08  <coderarity>everything before that is lesser
11:18:13  <yawnt>lol
11:18:21  <yawnt>we got a pony wiki here
11:18:23  <coderarity>G4ever
11:18:54  <yawnt>i discovered like 3 weeks ago that your nick is
11:18:57  <yawnt>code like coding
11:19:01  <yawnt>and rarity the piny
11:19:04  <yawnt>*pony
11:19:08  <coderarity>indeed!
11:19:27  <yawnt>mine is yawn because i yawn
11:19:33  <yawnt>i like to sleep :3
11:19:47  <coderarity>sleep likes to you O_o
11:19:53  <mmalecki>lol
11:20:01  <yawnt>then someone stole it in github & twitter so i added t of twitter
11:20:04  <yawnt>yawnt
11:20:13  <yawnt>coderarity: wat?
11:20:29  <coderarity>yawnt, exactly :P
11:20:30  <yawnt>while the genesys of mmalecki 's nick is still unknown
11:20:40  <coderarity>m for maciej
11:20:44  <coderarity>malecki for malecki
11:20:48  <yawnt>I WAS KIDDING
11:20:56  <yawnt>but thanks, ruin evertything
11:21:00  * yawntsobs
11:21:06  * yawntyawns
11:21:14  * deoxxayawnts
11:21:22  * yawntdeoxxaes
11:21:31  <deoxxa>that's illegal :<
11:21:36  <yawnt>lol
11:21:40  <yawnt>really?
11:21:51  <yawnt>i mean.. does deoxxa mean something?
11:21:56  <deoxxa>lol, no
11:22:02  <yawnt>well
11:22:07  <yawnt>i bet now it does
11:22:23  <yawnt>to deoxxa: verb, watching sailor moon at 23
11:22:30  <deoxxa>it was actually a randomly generated user mask of a bot in a ddos attack against an irc server i was running
11:22:44  <yawnt>cool
11:22:50  <deoxxa>so i took it, because it looked cool and isn't actually pronouncable
11:22:55  * hallasjoined
11:23:13  <deoxxa>not without sounding like a pair of scissors anyway
11:23:16  <deoxxa>CKSCKS
11:23:38  <yawnt>actually
11:23:46  <deoxxa>so i guess i was named by a computer
11:23:47  <yawnt>it's quite easy to pronunce in italian
11:23:54  <deoxxa>http://i.imgur.com/Ogadx.jpg
11:24:07  <yawnt>because of the way we handle double consonants
11:24:23  <yawnt>it's de like in dehidration
11:24:23  <deoxxa>drats
11:24:28  <deoxxa>foiled again
11:24:34  <yawnt>o like in oil
11:24:45  <yawnt>xxa is like ksaaa
11:24:50  <yawnt>deoksa
11:24:55  <yawnt>easy!
11:25:01  <mmalecki>that's how I'd pronounce it too
11:25:11  <deoxxa>yeah, that's how i pronounce it
11:25:14  <yawnt>in the american way it'd be
11:25:17  <deoxxa>i just like being pedantic
11:25:20  <yawnt>deeoxxa
11:25:22  <yawnt>i guess
11:25:28  <yawnt>coderarity: ? ^
11:25:28  <deoxxa>i should say one of the x's is silent
11:25:34  <deoxxa>then when someone says it, go "no, the other one"
11:25:45  <yawnt>lol
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11:26:16  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] flatiron/flatiron#164 (master - 4e0523d : Pavan Kumar Sunkara): The build was broken.
11:26:16  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/flatiron/compare/2e74ee443535...4e0523d1420e
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11:26:26  <deoxxa>i pronounce it with the "de", not the "dee" sound
11:26:55  <coderarity>yawnt, that's how i pronounce it
11:27:06  <coderarity>and by pronounce it i mean think it in my head
11:27:12  <deoxxa>go on
11:27:14  <deoxxa>say it out loud
11:27:17  <deoxxa>you know you want to
11:27:17  <yawnt>say it loud
11:27:19  <yawnt>crap
11:27:22  <deoxxa>haha
11:27:23  <yawnt>Y U FASTER
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11:27:29  <deoxxa>lower ping
11:27:34  <yawnt>nah
11:27:35  <coderarity>x's are hard to say
11:27:39  <yawnt>i have like 20ms
11:27:46  <deoxxa>that's pretty impressive
11:27:56  <yawnt>uni network
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11:29:48  <deoxxa>「デオクサー」とおりに読んでください。
11:29:52  * deoxxais proper
11:30:30  <yawnt>i love how written japanese looks
11:30:34  <yawnt>:3
11:32:31  <yawnt>frontend dev in UAE, 2K euros / month, no taxes
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11:32:44  <yawnt>wut..
11:33:12  <deoxxa>they don't have income tax
11:33:19  <yawnt>yeah
11:33:24  <deoxxa>that's pretty crappy pay though
11:33:32  <yawnt>depends
11:33:44  <deoxxa>especially if you have to move to the crappy desert
11:33:46  <yawnt>here you wouldnt get > 1,5k
11:33:57  <deoxxa>wow
11:33:58  <deoxxa>that's rough
11:34:05  <yawnt>it's junior frontend by the way
11:34:08  <yawnt>not senior
11:34:13  <deoxxa>still
11:34:41  <yawnt>you people in australia must be really rich
11:34:47  <deoxxa>that's like AU $30k
11:34:53  <yawnt>anyway dont care.. it's frontend
11:34:57  <deoxxa>that's... less than one third of my salary
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11:35:02  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/resourceful/compare/8c423210015d...43321398bef5
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11:35:02  * travis-cipart
11:35:02  <yawnt>wat?
11:35:16  <yawnt>2k euros is 30k au $?
11:35:21  <deoxxa>no, no
11:35:24  <deoxxa>per year
11:35:30  <deoxxa>24k eur
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11:35:34  <deoxxa>30k aud
11:35:38  <yawnt>oh okay
11:35:49  <yawnt>you get 90k/ year?
11:35:53  <yawnt>wat da fuq?
11:36:00  <deoxxa>more
11:36:05  <deoxxa>and that's not really uncommon
11:36:19  <deoxxa>i make just over $100k
11:36:22  <yawnt>:|
11:36:32  <deoxxa>taxes take that down to about $75k though :<
11:36:33  <yawnt>this is like 6k euros a month
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11:36:46  <yawnt>wait
11:37:05  <yawnt>75/12 is like 5.500$/month
11:37:08  <yawnt>amirite?
11:37:12  <deoxxa>yeah, about that
11:37:28  <yawnt>which is what? 5k €?
11:38:08  <deoxxa>last month i took home $6500 or so
11:38:12  <yawnt>i don't even know how i'd spend all those money lol
11:38:14  <deoxxa>which is like 5200 eur
11:38:19  <yawnt>holy shiy
11:38:27  <deoxxa>haha, i'm not spending much, i'm saving :D
11:38:42  <yawnt>you can do that here if you're a doctor
11:38:50  <yawnt>doctor get 4-5k
11:38:57  <deoxxa>sucked in, doctors
11:39:08  <yawnt>that's uber cool
11:39:30  <yawnt>i guess you are paid so much in australia because everything you have there is deadly
11:39:33  <deoxxa>haha
11:39:34  <mmalecki>2 k euros?!
11:39:35  <deoxxa>danger pay
11:39:40  <yawnt>'yeah lets give him 75k'
11:39:41  <deoxxa>for being around spiders
11:39:44  <mmalecki>I'd expect that to be a weekly wage...
11:39:50  <yawnt>'he'll be dead in two months'
11:40:00  <yawnt>mmalecki: wat?
11:40:03  <yawnt>really?
11:40:09  <deoxxa>mmalecki: i know right? especially considering lol UAE
11:41:37  <mmalecki>yeah
11:41:46  <yawnt>._.
11:41:59  <yawnt>we must really be kept as slaves here the
11:42:03  <yawnt>*then
11:42:11  <deoxxa>yawnt: man, programmers create *so much* value for a company
11:42:22  <yawnt>i know
11:42:23  <yawnt>but like
11:42:30  <yawnt>people that work for banks
11:42:36  <yawnt>they get 2,5k to 3k
11:42:38  <yawnt>not more
11:42:43  <deoxxa>per week?
11:42:45  <deoxxa>or month?
11:42:48  <yawnt>month
11:42:53  <yawnt>>banks
11:42:53  <deoxxa>dang
11:42:54  <mmalecki>I really lol'd
11:43:10  <yawnt>we are enslaved
11:43:11  <yawnt>im
11:43:21  <yawnt>so moving to sunny POLAND
11:43:26  <yawnt>or australia
11:43:38  <deoxxa>yawnt: move to australia, it's like the episode of the simpsons where mr burns has heaps of diseases
11:43:42  <mmalecki>well, job in Poland isn't going to get you much more
11:43:47  <yawnt>i like australia better, but sunny poland sounded funny
11:43:50  <deoxxa>yawnt: all the poisonous animals are too busy killing each other to bother killing you
11:43:52  <yawnt>that's why i said that
11:44:10  <yawnt>deoxxa: ok
11:44:16  <yawnt>i'll set the timer
11:44:22  <mmalecki>working in USA and spending in Poland is da shit tho
11:44:22  <yawnt>-5 years to australia
11:44:25  <deoxxa>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdOwFTo4Q3I << accurate description of QLD, australia
11:44:46  <yawnt>-4 years 365days 24h47secs
11:44:50  <yawnt>and counting
11:44:59  <deoxxa>lol
11:45:05  <yawnt>/ó/
11:45:14  <yawnt>mmalecki: yeah i bet
11:45:22  <yawnt>italy is the same if you telecommute
11:45:29  <mmalecki>yawnt: btw, it actually is sunny outside ._.
11:45:42  <mmalecki>it's like 23 degrees now
11:45:52  <yawnt>really? i've always thought of polonia like a smaller russia
11:46:00  <yawnt>23? that's nice
11:46:05  <mmalecki>so did Russia
11:46:07  <yawnt>*poland
11:46:16  <yawnt>but hey, never been there
11:46:19  <yawnt>but i will
11:46:21  <yawnt>one day
11:46:26  <mmalecki>cool!
11:46:28  <yawnt>i wanna do a trip
11:46:40  <mmalecki>if it's this year, feel free to sleep on my couch
11:46:52  <deoxxa>"instead of getting capped in your step, here you can pet a stingray and maybe get a stab in the chest, from what inhabits the depths of the reef 'cause every creature in our habitat has venom or teeth"
11:46:54  <yawnt>poland and the baltic states
11:46:58  <yawnt>estonia etc
11:46:59  <mmalecki>if it's not, well, my couch will be located in NY
11:47:19  <yawnt>you got a visa?
11:47:31  <mmalecki>not yet
11:47:47  <mmalecki>but indexzero is working on it and that's enough for me to believe that I'll get one
11:47:50  <yawnt>deoxxa: my aunt did the trekking in the bush when she went to AU
11:48:05  <yawnt>they found so many deadly snakes
11:48:26  <deoxxa>yawnt: "see that one, yeah that one right there, yeah on that tree 2m away. yeah that one kills heaps of people."
11:48:31  <yawnt>and the guide was like 'no worries, it's 1m away, just leave it alone'
11:48:33  <deoxxa>haha
11:48:35  <deoxxa>yep
11:48:43  <yawnt>deoxxa: they found the little viper
11:48:51  <yawnt>the one that's 50cm long
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11:49:08  <yawnt>they had to change path because it could get angry
11:49:17  <yawnt>and that kills really fast i've heard
11:49:28  <yawnt>mmalecki: nice!
11:49:33  <deoxxa>http://www.avru.org/general/general_mostvenom.html << the world's most venomous snakes
11:49:38  <deoxxa>check out the countries hahaha
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11:49:58  <yawnt>i heard that companies are like stocking H1Bd
11:50:02  <yawnt>*H1Bs
11:50:08  <mmalecki>yawnt: I'm not getting H1B
11:50:14  <yawnt>because lots of people are willing to get in
11:50:18  <yawnt>what are you gettin?
11:50:23  <mmalecki>O-1
11:50:30  <yawnt>which is?
11:50:42  <mmalecki>talents or shit
11:50:42  <deoxxa>oh is that the skilled worker thing?
11:50:44  <deoxxa>yeah
11:50:49  <yawnt>nice
11:50:54  <mmalecki>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_visa
11:51:06  <yawnt>i thought that one was for scientists or sport only
11:51:14  <yawnt>cool to know
11:51:47  <mmalecki>I AM A SCIENTIST
11:52:03  <mmalecki>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suazwrc2RPU
11:52:33  <deoxxa>mmalecki: so is this guy http://i.imgur.com/i46Lt.gif
11:52:56  <yawnt>mmalecki: science of beer and fun
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11:55:17  <deoxxa>> "i'm from a land of freedom, alladin's lamp grantin' three wishes to anyone who need 'em"
11:55:19  <deoxxa>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=busw19zyBqQ
11:55:21  <mmalecki>my sleep schedule can be deemed notexistant
11:55:24  <deoxxa>not sure what's gotten me in this patriotic mood
11:56:00  <mmalecki>also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKYuYaKI3bc
11:56:03  <yawnt>lol
11:56:06  <yawnt>deoxxa:
11:56:19  <yawnt>'rest of the world is underpaid'
11:56:29  <yawnt>'AUSTRALIA OOOH LOVE YA AUSTRALIA'
11:56:38  <yawnt>long story short ^
11:58:00  <deoxxa>lel
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12:03:22  <deoxxa>mmalecki: massive attack ftw
12:03:25  <yawnt>listen to the bloodhouse gang
12:03:29  <yawnt>FOXTROTT
12:03:30  <yawnt>UNIFORM
12:03:32  <yawnt>CHARLIE
12:03:33  <yawnt>KILO
12:03:50  <mmalecki>deoxxa: yes.
12:04:15  <deoxxa>sometimes i wish i had someone else to work with
12:04:33  <deoxxa>then i look at how much i get done, and i can't see that happening if i had to keep someone else up to speed with what i was doing
12:05:24  <yawnt>yeah
12:05:32  <yawnt>imagine if i worked with deoxxa
12:05:39  <deoxxa>ha
12:05:44  <deoxxa>see i don't think that'd be too bad
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12:06:39  <yawnt>he'd have trouble
12:06:42  <yawnt>:>
12:06:53  <yawnt>*you'd
12:07:12  <yawnt>jk man.. it'd be fun probably
12:08:10  <mmalecki>ugh, gotta pick up my clothes from the laundry
12:08:17  <mmalecki>I wish they delivered
12:08:31  <yawnt>they do here
12:08:42  <mmalecki>well, fuck.
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12:08:47  <yawnt>it's overpriced thiugh
12:08:52  <yawnt>*though
12:08:54  <deoxxa>mmalecki: first world problem
12:09:04  <mmalecki>yawnt: meh.
12:09:12  <mmalecki>deoxxa: yeah
12:09:19  <yawnt>deoxxa: it'd be
12:09:22  <yawnt>code code code
12:09:25  <yawnt>japanese
12:09:28  <yawnt>anime
12:09:30  <yawnt>code code
12:09:33  <yawnt>!
12:09:34  <mmalecki>I read that as 'coke coke coke'
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12:10:00  <deoxxa>lol
12:10:03  <yawnt>lol
12:10:03  <mmalecki>I was gonna say, learning japanese on coke would be pretty damn awesome
12:10:29  <deoxxa>コケインをしよう!
12:10:46  <mmalecki>deoxxa: definitely!
12:11:07  <mmalecki>(what does that mean?(
12:11:08  <yawnt>lol
12:11:11  <deoxxa>haha
12:11:12  * thepumpkinquit (Remote host closed the connection)
12:11:16  <deoxxa>"let's do coke"
12:11:16  <yawnt>it means
12:11:20  <yawnt>:(
12:11:21  <coderarity>ˆ ∆¨ß† †¥π´ ∑ˆ†˙ †˙´ å¬† ˚´¥ ˙´¬∂ ∂ø∑˜
12:11:22  <yawnt>ok
12:11:24  <yawnt>:(
12:11:36  <deoxxa>was thinking of http://www.drinkalot.com/pics/Lets_Do_Coke.jpg
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12:11:59  <deoxxa>coderarity: your terminal is bad and you should feel bad :<
12:13:12  <yawnt>i got class
12:13:16  <yawnt>l8r
12:13:18  <coderarity>deoxxa, if you hold the alt key down on a mac you can type in a secret language
12:13:39  <deoxxa>lol wingdings
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12:17:10  <skieter>Using haibu: I'm getting err can't cd to /usr/local/lib/node_modules/haibu/local/marak/test - does that indicate that I'm running haibu with the wrong path/permissions? What should it be?
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12:22:32  <coderarity>skieter, guessing the directory doesn't exist
12:22:41  <coderarity>skieter, maybe something to do with the user plugin
12:24:59  <Sly>Hm..
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12:28:07  <Sly>coderarity, mind doing me a favor?
12:28:19  <coderarity>depends on the favor, what is it Sly?
12:28:27  <Sly>https://github.com/Southern/utile/tree/deprecated_recode
12:28:36  <Sly>Pull that and see if you can help me figure out how to fix this failing test.
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12:29:49  <coderarity>alright, i'll check it out
12:29:57  <Sly>Thanks.
12:30:18  <Sly>I've tried a few different things, and can't get it to work without breaking something else.
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12:33:25  <Sly>Other than that, it's working fine.
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12:34:32  <mmalecki>bradleymeck: you are my savior.
12:34:44  <bradleymeck>mmalecki: what did i do?
12:34:52  <mmalecki>bradleymeck: YOU SHOWED UP XD
12:35:11  <mmalecki>bradleymeck: I have to pickup clothes from laundry, haven't had real sleep in 30 hours
12:35:21  <mmalecki>watch the fort for a bit please
12:35:41  <bradleymeck>mmalecki: ok
12:37:03  * kevindentequit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
12:38:28  <coderarity>Sly, just to be sure that we're on the same page - it looks like this, right? https://gist.github.com/fe8b220f8fe65335333f
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12:38:40  <Sly>Yeah.
12:39:09  <Sly>That one test is the only thing failing. It works correctly, I just don't get how the output isn't matching.
12:39:37  * therealkoopajoined
12:39:46  <coderarity>because deepEqual
12:39:51  <coderarity>this has happened to me before :\
12:40:14  <yawnt> does deepEqual check instance?
12:40:27  <coderarity>also totally sold a computer for a ton of money because "custom built"
12:40:39  <coderarity>i should just build computers and sell them for more than the parts are together
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12:42:06  <Sly>coderarity, only thing I know to do is try to make a separate macro for it.
12:42:35  <Sly>I'm just confused. Does deepEqual count newlines?
12:42:55  <yawnt>read assert.js
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12:43:37  <yawnt>deepEqual does act bitchy sometimes thiugh
12:43:41  <yawnt>*though
12:44:33  <coderarity>uh
12:44:40  <coderarity>i don't remember how i fixed it :\
12:44:59  * Slyslams head on desk.
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12:48:24  <Sly>Ha. I found a fix.
12:48:25  <Sly>;D
12:48:29  <coderarity>what was it?
12:48:48  <Sly>utile.deepEqual
12:48:53  <Sly>Rather than assert.deepEqual
12:49:16  <coderarity>lol
12:49:31  <coderarity>Sly, are they instances of the same object?
12:49:51  <coderarity>Sly, like, the prototype properties could be different
12:50:45  <Sly>coderarity, utile.deepEqual is a bit different than assert.deepEqual.
12:51:02  <yawnt>Sly: test for utile.deepEqual must run before then
12:51:05  <yawnt>does it?
12:51:40  <Sly>yawnt, there isn't a test for utile.deepEqual at all.
12:51:43  <Sly>At least, not that I see.
12:52:01  <coderarity>that's because it's just lazy required substack's module
12:52:04  <coderarity>test are in his stuff
12:53:29  <Sly>https://github.com/Southern/utile/compare/deprecated_recode
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12:55:21  <Sly>Oops. Forgot to take out a console.log
12:55:39  <coderarity>Sly, that's some fancy code you got there
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12:57:10  <Sly>Look good?
12:58:25  <deoxxa>utile always makes me cringe
12:58:57  <coderarity>Sly, do you know why it was deleting the modules every time? like `delete utile.file;`
12:59:16  <yawnt>yeah
12:59:17  <Sly>Not a clue, but it doesn't matter.. because it'll be reassigned anyway, so there's no point in redundantly deleting it.
12:59:24  <yawnt>i wrote that code coderarity
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12:59:39  <yawnt>it's a lazy load improved
12:59:54  <yawnt>imagine someone calls utile.async
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13:00:05  <harbhub>hey fellas
13:00:06  <yawnt>instead of async = utile.async
13:00:12  <harbhub>has anyone used CKEditor?
13:00:16  <yawnt>it'd fail to the getter every time
13:00:20  <harbhub>in a Node app/site?
13:00:21  <yawnt>and slow down code
13:00:30  <yawnt>coderarity: Sly ^
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13:02:20  <yawnt>Sly: what do you meant it'll be reassigned?
13:02:52  * Jon_joined
13:02:58  <Sly>yawnt, you're assigning to utile.async. That should overwrite the .defineProperty, iirc, as long as you don't set `configurable: false`.
13:03:29  <Sly>> Object.getOwnPropertyNames(utile.async)
13:03:29  <Sly>[ 'unmemoize',
13:03:30  <Sly> 'some',
13:03:30  <Sly> 'noConflict',
13:03:38  <Sly>That's after calling `var async = utile.async`
13:03:56  <yawnt>yeah... i didnt see the assignment
13:04:10  <coderarity>i see
13:04:12  <Sly>The assignment was in the original code. >_>
13:04:21  <yawnt>yeah it was my code
13:04:27  <Sly>Ah.
13:04:27  <yawnt>:P
13:04:31  <coderarity>Sly, sounds like it's good then
13:04:31  <Sly>:P
13:04:40  <yawnt>thats why i was like
13:04:43  <yawnt>NOWAIT
13:04:46  <Sly>rofl
13:04:50  <yawnt>i thought you returned back to
13:04:54  <yawnt>return require
13:04:57  <yawnt>which sucks
13:05:32  <coderarity>Sly, if you're creating a PR, link it to me and I'll comment :P
13:05:43  <Sly>coderarity, https://github.com/flatiron/utile/pull/18
13:05:45  <Sly>Just made one.
13:06:36  <coderarity>man that travis thing is sweet
13:06:41  <Sly>Agreed.
13:07:12  <Sly>I love that Github keeps growing.
13:07:19  <Sly>Like the new command search thingy.
13:07:21  <Sly><3 it.
13:07:46  <deoxxa>damn it, why are synths so damn hard
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13:09:42  <ajw>hey there, could anyone help with a small noob deployment problem I'm having?
13:09:44  * cody--joined
13:09:50  <coderarity>ajw, yes
13:09:55  <ajw>thanks,
13:10:25  <ajw>I've just started playing with node js and nodejitsu and I'm attempting to deploy an app.
13:10:28  <coderarity>ajw, gist.github.com the entire output from `jitsu deploy` and gimme the username/app name ;P
13:11:02  <ajw>ok, I'm on it :)
13:11:20  <coderarity>in the meantime i am going to eat frozen vegetables
13:11:29  <ajw>nice!
13:13:52  * lpinjoined
13:14:20  <ajw>https://gist.github.com/3743022
13:15:14  <Sly>I'm going to catch a little sleep.
13:15:26  <coderarity>Sly, see you in 10 hours
13:15:32  <Sly>rofl
13:15:36  <yawnt>lol
13:15:42  <yawnt>Sly: wait
13:15:43  <coderarity>ajw, alright, so it's deployed here, http://playcaptcha.jit.su/ - is that what you expected to see?
13:15:47  <Sly>Sup, yawnt ?
13:16:01  <yawnt>do you do CS in college?
13:16:12  <Sly>I haven't ever taken any computer classes.
13:16:14  <Sly>Self taught.
13:16:20  <skieter>Does anyone know if you can pass options to the app you're starting with haibu?
13:16:20  <ajw>my issue is that I have a subfolder './Scripts' which contains some static scripts I wish to serve, I'm using node-static, but when deployed, the app fails to serve the files in './Scripts'
13:16:28  <yawnt>ah how old are you?
13:16:31  <Sly>22
13:16:38  <yawnt>gotcha
13:16:38  <ajw>ahh, actually, that was a quick test I did, sorry, one sec
13:16:41  <yawnt>nvn then
13:16:42  <coderarity>skieter, someone tried to, but it didn't work, so i assume not
13:16:51  <yawnt>i need sb that does cs in the us
13:16:56  <yawnt>thanks anyway :P
13:17:03  <Sly>Sorry. :P
13:17:07  <yawnt> np
13:17:21  <coderarity>ajw, oh, i see
13:17:25  <skieter>So if you want to start multiple instances of the same app, how would you give them different ports?
13:17:31  <ajw>ok, redeployed
13:17:33  <coderarity>ajw, so where do you expect that to be served?
13:17:48  <Sly>I'm actually about to go back to school for engineering. I think going for IT is a waste, at least for the moment, since I already know what I need to know to get by.
13:17:50  * efbekajoined
13:18:01  <Sly>Once I get done with the engineering, I'll probably follow up with CS. Just cause I can. xD
13:18:08  <coderarity>Sly, do you have a degree?
13:18:11  <Sly>Nope.
13:18:13  <ajw>yes at the same place, I'd expect 'http://playcaptcha.jit.su/alert.js' to work or possibly 'http://playcaptcha.jit.su/scripts/alert.js'
13:18:50  <ajw>I expect its an issue with my package.json file...
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13:20:53  <ajw>https://gist.github.com/3743055
13:21:45  <coderarity>ajw, i'll go look at it :P
13:22:00  <ajw>Thanks, much appreciated!
13:22:05  <coderarity>ajw, btw, don' have to gist every deploy, i already got what I needed
13:22:21  <ajw>ok, :)
13:22:32  <Sly>Ugh. I keep forgetting to activate my new Paypal card.
13:22:42  <coderarity>Sly, I really need one of those
13:22:44  <yawnt>coderarity: we should write a kohai module that matches problem error jitsu
13:22:51  <coderarity>Sly, i'm gonna have like 1520$ in there
13:22:51  <yawnt>and sends instruction
13:23:10  <Sly>coderarity, I have two. One for me, and one for my mom.
13:23:12  <Sly>Business account.
13:23:33  <harbhub>hey guys question
13:23:37  <harbhub>sly you will know this
13:23:42  <harbhub>so i have my express app
13:23:53  <harbhub>i am using app.get('/', logic goes here)
13:24:07  <harbhub>i want the logic to check for a cookie
13:24:09  <harbhub>o.0
13:24:10  <coderarity>Sly, wait, if i just have a normal account is there a limit on the amount of money i can recieve?
13:24:24  <yawnt>express.cookieParser
13:24:27  <yawnt>in .use
13:24:31  <harbhub>so if the user has logged in already and has a cookie stored, then it will recognize them and send them to the home page
13:24:33  <harbhub>otherwise
13:24:34  <yawnt>then req.cooki
13:24:38  <harbhub>it will send to to login/signup page
13:24:43  <Sly>coderarity, there's not a limit on how much you can receive. There is a lower limit on your debit card for the amount you can draw out daily.
13:24:51  <harbhub>ok
13:24:58  <harbhub>yawnt i'll try that
13:25:02  <yawnt>check the syntax on the guide
13:25:07  <harbhub>will do
13:25:12  <yawnt>:P
13:25:45  <Sly>I think I can draw out $3,000 daily from my account with my business card.
13:25:52  <Sly>I'd have to check the limits again.
13:26:51  <coderarity>I'll just try to add my bank account again, I guess
13:27:11  <Sly>Ugh. That's why I had to get one.
13:27:20  <Sly>Fuck waiting 3 days for my money.
13:27:22  * Slypouts.
13:27:37  <coderarity>it says i can do it instantly with USAA
13:27:41  <coderarity>woot being military kid
13:28:24  <coderarity>yeah, says i'm limited to 500$ per month
13:28:27  <coderarity>that needs to change
13:29:29  <Sly>Daily spending limit: $3,000.00 | Daily ATM limit: $400.00
13:29:42  <Sly>On both cards.
13:29:51  <Sly>Not sure if it's per-card, or globally on the account.
13:30:03  <Sly>So I could, theoretically, spend $6,000 per day.
13:31:00  <Sly>But my account is also verified with like 12 pieces of identification. xD
13:31:44  <harbhub>damn sly has some bank roll :)
13:31:55  <deoxxa>i have to go into the bank like an asshole if i want to get out more than like $2000
13:31:58  <Sly>Ha. I wish I had the money to spend $6,000 a day.
13:32:01  <deoxxa>stupid card
13:32:01  <yawnt>deoxxa: ping
13:32:07  <deoxxa>pong
13:32:13  <yawnt>deoxxa: how much di
13:32:21  <yawnt>does life cost in AU?
13:32:21  <deoxxa>type slower
13:32:24  <deoxxa>haha
13:32:33  <deoxxa>hm
13:32:34  <deoxxa>well
13:32:56  <deoxxa>i pay about $900/month rent (sharing an apartment with someone)
13:33:12  <deoxxa>probably like $20/day on food because i'm a lazy idiot and i eat pizza too much
13:33:16  <Sly>Everything seems to be overpriced in Oz, tbqh.
13:33:27  <Sly>I have a friend that lives there, and it just seems that everything is outrageously jacked up for no reason.
13:33:36  <deoxxa>transport is about $15/day for the tram/train
13:34:08  <deoxxa>i don't pay for internet, i don't pay for my phone... so i guess like $1500/month would be reasonable
13:34:26  <deoxxa>depends though, you can do it for less depending on how you do things
13:34:29  <efbeka>Someone can explain me why/how setTimeout w/ timeout 0
13:34:34  <mmalecki>back
13:34:39  <deoxxa>i used to make $400/month and i got by ok
13:34:50  <efbeka>can make an inner function being called after the stack?
13:35:05  <deoxxa>efbeka: it schedules something to happen on the next tick of execution as well - but there's also process.nextTick for that and it's a lot more efficient
13:35:14  <coderarity>^
13:35:37  <Sly>Alright. Nap time. ;D
13:35:38  <coderarity>deoxxa, man that's high rent
13:35:45  <deoxxa>yeah, but i live in the city
13:35:48  <Sly><3 you all. bbl.
13:35:50  <deoxxa>and it's a pretty nice place
13:36:01  <harbhub>anyone use passport for auth?
13:36:03  <coderarity>(it's triple what I pay)
13:36:04  <deoxxa>i live in probably the most expensive part of melbourne
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13:36:17  <deoxxa>everyone around here has porches and ferraris and stuff
13:36:18  <coderarity>deoxxa, oh, wow. well you probably don't have to deal with fire ants
13:36:20  <deoxxa>it's kind of weird
13:36:27  <deoxxa>i totally don't fit in
13:36:34  <coderarity>deoxxa, i can't get to my linux laptop because of ants
13:36:50  <deoxxa>like i walk around in a hoody and shit, and there's people in business suits and $400 t-shirts and shit
13:37:16  <deoxxa>i know they hate people like me being here, which is what makes me so happy about it :3
13:37:21  <deoxxa>and lol fire ants
13:37:30  <coderarity>deoxxa, make friends with them and then go watch their 60" 2160p televisions
13:37:34  <efbeka>deoxxa: thks i will look process.nextTick then
13:37:41  <coderarity>deoxxa, you live in japan, right? they have those things?
13:37:48  <deoxxa>nah, i live in australia
13:37:57  <deoxxa>i just go to japan sometimes
13:37:59  <deoxxa>i used to live there
13:38:03  <coderarity>deoxxa, oh, lol
13:38:09  <coderarity>deoxxa, then go look at their kangaroos
13:38:16  <deoxxa>lol
13:38:28  <coderarity>i'm not sure what else rich australian people would have
13:38:35  <yawnt>i wanna go to australia
13:38:46  <yawnt>can i live at your place deoxxa ?
13:38:48  <yawnt>:(
13:38:49  <coderarity>yawnt, i would live in australia
13:38:58  <deoxxa>yawnt: i haz couch, you can haz couch if you like
13:39:03  <yawnt>let's all move to australia
13:39:14  <yawnt>and found JSland
13:39:14  <deoxxa>sorry, only one couch
13:39:24  <deoxxa>unless you all want to crowd on it
13:39:27  <deoxxa>crowdcouching
13:39:33  <yawnt>im not sharin it
13:39:33  <deoxxa>sounds kind of painful though
13:40:27  <coderarity>pshhh, i'll sleep with the kangaroos
13:40:34  <yawnt>i haz tent
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13:40:44  <deoxxa>pretty sure sleeping with kangaroos makes you die
13:40:47  <yawnt>i can camp in your kitchen deoxxa
13:41:15  <deoxxa>yawnt: your rent will be that you make pancakes sometimes
13:41:17  <coderarity>now i'm curious as to whether it's actually possible to live in australia
13:41:30  <deoxxa>coderarity: i seem to be alive, somehow
13:41:55  <coderarity>that's a good sign
13:42:33  <deoxxa>what the hell, 400MB for a synth
13:42:38  <deoxxa>come on
13:43:33  <yawnt>deoxxa: but
13:43:39  <yawnt>how fast is the internet?
13:43:48  <deoxxa>depends
13:43:59  <deoxxa>i was getting like 10mbit just before, downloaded some music stuff
13:44:15  <deoxxa>could be a lot better if i'd actually pay for it
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13:44:45  <yawnt>wat
13:44:52  <yawnt>how can you not pay?
13:44:55  <deoxxa>i'm lazy, therefore wireless
13:44:56  <coderarity>yeah
13:45:01  <yawnt>ah
13:45:02  <yawnt>i see
13:45:09  <yawnt>you illegal user
13:45:09  <coderarity>wireless N is still like 300 Mbps
13:45:13  <yawnt>shame on you
13:45:17  <coderarity>oh, man
13:45:22  <deoxxa>it's true, i'm a terrible person
13:45:29  <yawnt>:>
13:45:43  <yawnt>come to campjs coderarity
13:45:51  <yawnt>we can all meet there
13:46:06  <yawnt>deoxxa: im saving money for campjs in case you didnt know
13:46:13  <deoxxa>oh nice
13:46:18  <coderarity>i actually might be able to if this guy is actually buying something off me
13:46:35  <deoxxa>wait, campjs or jscamp?
13:46:38  <yawnt>deoxxa: cant assure anything though
13:46:43  <deoxxa>i'm going to both so it's confusing
13:46:45  <deoxxa>:x
13:46:47  <yawnt>deoxxa: the one in gold coast
13:46:51  <deoxxa>ah nice
13:46:57  * deoxxanods
13:47:30  <coderarity>there's really camping?
13:47:51  <yawnt>yeah
13:48:03  <deoxxa>haha, kind of
13:48:04  <coderarity>how do you electricity?
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13:48:17  <coderarity>if there's camping i'm camping
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13:50:26  <yawnt>TRUE AUSTRALIAN EXPERIENCE
13:50:30  <yawnt>camping w/ snakes & all
13:50:33  <harbhub>function (req, res, next)
13:50:33  <yawnt>coderarity: i'm in
13:50:38  <yawnt>i just need 2k
13:50:39  <harbhub>what is the 'next' for?
13:50:47  <yawnt>harbhub: middlewaee
13:50:49  <yawnt>*ware
13:50:57  <harbhub>o.0
13:51:30  <coderarity>harbhub, middlewares
13:51:31  <yawnt>look at connect middlewares in the doc
13:51:39  <coderarity>harbhub, awesome things
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13:51:57  <harbhub>so when i use express
13:51:59  <harbhub>i get connect
13:52:03  <yawnt>yeah
13:52:11  <harbhub>but i just say "express.middlewareofchoice'
13:52:17  <yawnt>coderarity: we don't have a tent though
13:52:19  <harbhub>instead of 'connect.middlewareofchoice'
13:52:20  <harbhub>?
13:52:25  <coderarity>yawnt, neither do I O_o
13:52:25  <yawnt>i cant just get one on the plane
13:52:27  <yawnt>:(
13:52:34  <yawnt>coderarity: i have it in italy
13:52:37  <yawnt>8 places
13:52:37  <coderarity>yawnt, all my camping stuff is back in VA
13:52:44  <yawnt>see
13:52:50  * yawntwatches deoxxa
13:52:58  * deoxxaremains still
13:53:06  * yawntstares deeply into deoxxa 's eyes
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13:53:32  <deoxxa>ಠ_ಠ
13:53:39  * yawntuses Sonicboom
13:53:50  <yawnt>it's super-effective
13:53:52  <deoxxa>i think i'll render this thing i'm working on
13:53:53  <coderarity>yawnt, the last day of that campjs thing is my birthday
13:53:59  <yawnt>you aussy people must be sea creatures
13:54:12  <yawnt>coderarity: dont expect a gift
13:54:14  <yawnt>:>
13:54:28  <yawnt>i could stay like a week
13:54:33  <yawnt>visi melbourne
13:54:36  <yawnt>canberra
13:54:42  <yawnt>then fly to gold coast
13:54:44  <yawnt>camp
13:54:51  <yawnt>go back home
13:55:01  <yawnt>*visit
13:55:26  <harbhub>man
13:55:26  <coderarity>expedia rates flying price at "really high"
13:55:31  <harbhub>front end is so much easier than back end
13:55:48  <harbhub>persistent store is something i don't seem to grasp
13:55:49  <yawnt>coderarity: dont use expedia
13:55:54  <yawnt>kayak.com is the way
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13:56:17  <yawnt>last time i checked they were like 600 or so
13:56:30  <yawnt>one way
13:56:37  <yawnt>so 1.2k back and forth
13:57:01  <yawnt>how much time do you think it'll take you to move australia deoxxa ?
13:57:14  <yawnt>like in the middle of the atlantic ocean
13:57:26  <deoxxa>probably like at least 20 minutes
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13:58:25  <coderarity>yawnt, interesting
13:58:32  <yawnt>coderarity: wat?
13:58:35  <coderarity>yawnt, priceline says like 1780
13:58:42  <yawnt>o,o
13:58:51  <yawnt>BUT I WANNA GO TO AUSTRALIA
13:58:59  <yawnt>where the hell do i find those money
13:59:05  <coderarity>yawnt, that's from texas, italy is probably farther :\
13:59:10  <coderarity>i mean, it is farther, lol
13:59:11  <yawnt>hey, who wants drugs
13:59:15  <yawnt>coderarity: nop
13:59:21  <yawnt>you fly from uae
13:59:34  <yawnt>milan - dubai - melbourne
13:59:39  <yawnt>36 hours or so
14:00:13  <yawnt>i'm selling drugs to get to AU
14:00:15  <harbhub>hmm do i need signed cookies to store the user session persistently?
14:00:17  <yawnt>anyone?
14:00:20  * papachanjoined
14:00:59  <harbhub>yeah this shit is not as easy as i hoped!
14:01:17  <Jon_>hi - i'm moving an app from appfog and the port for the app to listen on was governed by this "process.env.VCAP_APP_PORT" whereas when i deployed using jitsu, it said the port was 80
14:01:34  <yawnt>Jon_: listen on something > 1024
14:01:37  <Jon_>will it always be port 80? or does this change?
14:01:44  <yawnt>nodejitsu will do the magic
14:01:46  <yawnt>:)
14:01:57  * ppcanoquit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
14:02:08  <coderarity>Jon_, it's always going to be port 80
14:02:17  <Jon_>ok, so i just hardcode whatever port i want, then it will pick that up?
14:02:21  <coderarity>Jon_, indeed
14:02:23  <yawnt>yep
14:02:38  <yawnt>no need to change from your dev env
14:02:42  <coderarity>deoxxa, did kangaroos invent the idea of chilling or something? like this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_IYVa52LlsE/ThsSSCewMfI/AAAAAAAAAGk/oI1QaeN0Wvc/s1600/Kangaroos-Wallpapers-.jpg
14:02:47  * AvianFlujoined
14:02:48  <yawnt>lol
14:02:49  <Jon_>and ditch that env variable totally
14:02:56  <yawnt>hey AvianFlu :D
14:02:59  <coderarity>Jon_, yep
14:03:09  <Jon_>perfect - thanks for the speedy help !!
14:03:18  <deoxxa>yeah coderarity kangaroos don't really care about much
14:03:22  <yawnt>np
14:03:30  <deoxxa>coderarity: koalas are better though, they literally just sit around getting high all day
14:03:40  * ppcanojoined
14:03:43  <yawnt>deoxxa: i saw something on discovery
14:04:01  <yawnt>about koala getting killed because they always follow the same path
14:04:06  <yawnt>so if you build a rosd
14:04:10  <yawnt>*road
14:04:12  <deoxxa>yep
14:04:15  <yawnt>they'll cross it
14:04:20  <yawnt>*bum+
14:04:21  <coderarity>australia must be a really chill place
14:04:27  <yawnt>dead koala :(
14:04:29  <coderarity>AvianFlu, you made it just in time for the kangaroo talk
14:04:33  <yawnt>lol
14:04:42  <yawnt>deoxxa: i wanna hug a koala
14:04:42  <deoxxa>thank god for that!
14:04:47  <yawnt>they look fluffy :3
14:04:52  <deoxxa>yawnt: no man a koala will fuck you up
14:04:59  <yawnt>reallyv
14:05:01  <yawnt>*?
14:05:02  <yawnt>why
14:05:03  <yawnt>:(
14:05:08  <coderarity>yawnt, look at those claws http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F6oUUVEv5cU/T_Vs3ngxrNI/AAAAAAAAHeA/Bvdb7pC9X0U/s1600/koala-picture.jpg
14:05:14  <deoxxa>yeah
14:05:18  <deoxxa>those claws are crazy
14:05:25  <yawnt>cats can scratch too :<
14:05:30  * Jon_quit (Quit: Page closed)
14:05:41  <deoxxa>yeah but a koala can like, tear your face off
14:05:49  <yawnt>:(
14:05:51  <deoxxa>and it has no feelings man, those things have like 0 conscience
14:05:53  <yawnt>nevermind then
14:05:55  <yawnt>lol
14:06:04  <yawnt>you're telling me like
14:06:07  <yawnt>if tgey had speed
14:06:19  <yawnt>they'd be fucking fluffy terminators
14:06:22  <yawnt>*they
14:06:22  <coderarity>here's a menacing picture of a kaola http://t.wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/animals/1440x1080/Koala_Portrait_Lone_Pine_Koala_Sanctuary_Brisbane_Australia_1440x1080.jpg
14:06:23  <deoxxa>"well this guy's in my way, better ruin his life and get back to eating leaves or whatever it was i was doing before"
14:06:37  <yawnt>australia
14:06:55  <yawnt>the place where even the most cute creature will cut you up
14:07:03  <yawnt>and dance on your dead body
14:07:07  <deoxxa>every single animal we have is just death in a pretty box
14:07:22  <yawnt>i know there are jellyfish
14:07:26  <yawnt>there are really tiny
14:07:28  <yawnt>and lethal
14:07:34  <yawnt>so you don't see the
14:07:37  <yawnt>*them
14:07:41  <deoxxa>we have like 5 different kinds of tiny jellyfish that are really really horrible
14:07:49  <yawnt>sweet
14:07:53  <deoxxa>bluebottles are the most common, and they just hurt like hell
14:07:56  <deoxxa>they don't kill you
14:08:03  <yawnt>*jumps off a cliff*
14:08:05  <deoxxa>there's some other type that's more rare and is way more dangerous
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14:08:14  <yawnt>*sea of jellyfish*
14:08:27  <yawnt>gotta love it
14:08:41  <yawnt>can you find snakes in urban areas?
14:08:57  <deoxxa>only if you go near bushes
14:09:00  <deoxxa>or other plants
14:09:03  <deoxxa>or really anything outside
14:09:04  <coderarity>they have emu too
14:09:05  <deoxxa>or sometimes inside
14:09:05  <yawnt>lol
14:09:07  <yawnt>lol
14:09:14  <deoxxa>so the short answer is yes
14:09:15  <yawnt>you're trying to scare me now
14:09:16  <deoxxa>haha
14:09:20  <deoxxa>yeah it's not that bad
14:09:22  * kmiyashiroquit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
14:09:25  <yawnt>I DON BUY IT
14:09:27  <yawnt>because.
14:09:31  <deoxxa>snakes don't like the city, it's too loud
14:09:31  <coderarity>yawnt, nothing is scarier than a 2 legged bird
14:09:38  <coderarity>flightless bird*
14:09:45  <deoxxa>coderarity: penguins
14:09:52  <yawnt>deoxxa: i got attacked by a bull snake once
14:10:04  <deoxxa>yawnt: did it make you into a man
14:10:08  <coderarity>you guys have penguins?
14:10:13  <yawnt>yes deoxxa
14:10:18  <deoxxa>coderarity: lol no
14:10:21  <yawnt>im now half human half snake
14:10:32  <yawnt>deoxxa: basically we were in the countryside
14:10:33  <deoxxa>yawnt: that sounds awesome, how has it improved your lifestyle?
14:10:37  * Destosjoined
14:10:44  <yawnt>and spotted the snake in his backyard
14:10:48  <deoxxa>"i now sleep exclusively on warm rocks"
14:10:50  <yawnt>so we ran towards it
14:11:01  <yawnt>and a clever friend of mine
14:11:02  <deoxxa>you ran... towards it
14:11:08  <yawnt>yeah
14:11:09  <deoxxa>you're clearly not australian
14:11:15  <yawnt>they're not poisonous
14:11:23  <yawnt>they also attack rarely
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14:11:26  <deoxxa>protip 1) don't run towards snakes in .au
14:11:27  <yawnt>anyway
14:11:37  <yawnt>the clever friend of mine
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14:11:50  <yawnt>thought that because they're cold blood
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14:11:58  <yawnt>it'd be cool to throw ice cubes at it
14:12:03  <deoxxa>wut
14:12:12  <yawnt>snake got pissed off
14:12:17  <yawnt>i was the bearest person
14:12:21  <yawnt>*nearest
14:12:25  <deoxxa>"hey, hey, come on man, hey... i'm trying to slide around on my stomach here and you're not making this easy for me"
14:12:27  <yawnt>it was like a meter away
14:12:38  <yawnt>and suddenly like 25cm away from me
14:12:43  <yawnt>scared the shit outta me
14:12:46  <deoxxa>lol
14:12:57  <yawnt>i was lucky it couldnt reach my leg
14:13:14  <yawnt>they're arent poisonous but they eat all sort if shit
14:13:26  <deoxxa>oh yeah so you get tetanus and stuff
14:13:27  <yawnt>so their mouth is full of bacteria and shit
14:13:29  <deoxxa>haha
14:13:41  <yawnt>nah tetanus is from plants, soil or rust
14:13:52  <yawnt>you can get it here with rosea for example
14:13:57  <yawnt>but it happens rarely
14:14:15  <deoxxa>http://www.bami.us/Derm/BitesSnake.html#Tetanus
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14:14:49  <yawnt>really
14:14:55  <yawnt>ever heard of it
14:14:55  <deoxxa>you can also get it from cats
14:15:01  <yawnt>must be something australian
14:15:05  * blevsquit (Remote host closed the connection)
14:15:10  <deoxxa>http://i.imgur.com/qTePO.jpg
14:15:14  <yawnt>YOU EVEN HAVE TETANUS CARRYING SNAKES
14:15:30  <yawnt>and yeah
14:15:34  * ajwquit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
14:15:42  <yawnt>that was mu first close contact with a snake
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14:15:55  <yawnt>second one was a rattlesnake
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14:16:06  <deoxxa>most of the snakes you see here aren't dangerous
14:16:07  <yawnt>always in the us.. we ran it over with the truck
14:16:08  <deoxxa>they're just annoying
14:16:14  * cody--joined
14:16:15  <yawnt>cause they kill cows
14:16:26  <deoxxa>rattlesnakes do?
14:16:28  <yawnt>it should be illegal to kill rattlesnakes.. but yeah
14:16:33  <yawnt>cows are priority
14:16:35  <deoxxa>ha
14:16:43  <yawnt>deoxxa: not intentionally
14:16:47  <yawnt>for self defense
14:16:49  <deoxxa>yeah
14:16:54  <deoxxa>i guess the cow steps on it or whatever
14:16:56  <yawnt>i mean
14:16:58  <deoxxa>stupid cows
14:17:03  <yawnt>they cant eat a cow lol
14:17:38  <yawnt>my host family had like 20 cata
14:17:42  <yawnt>*cats
14:17:48  <yawnt>to keep snakes away
14:17:51  <deoxxa>haha
14:17:56  <yawnt>at least that's what i was told
14:17:58  <deoxxa>also creepers
14:18:01  * deoxxanods
14:18:03  <yawnt>yeah
14:18:13  <deoxxa>alkaida-raffes
14:18:15  <yawnt>we did give the dead rattlesnake to the kittens
14:18:21  <yawnt>i got this pic
14:18:30  <yawnt>of a small kitty pulling the snake
14:18:34  <yawnt>half eaten
14:18:48  <yawnt>won the 2nd prize at the county fair with that
14:18:54  <yawnt>good times.. i miss US
14:18:55  * kmiyashirojoined
14:19:06  <yawnt>just like you miss japan
14:19:39  <deoxxa>haha
14:19:55  * cjmjoined
14:20:08  <deoxxa>i go to japan like twice each year though
14:20:08  * cody--quit (Client Quit)
14:20:13  <deoxxa>so i don't miss it for very long
14:20:25  <yawnt>i last went to us in march 2009
14:20:29  * cody--joined
14:20:31  <yawnt>been almost four years
14:20:35  <deoxxa>;-;
14:20:38  <efbeka>deoxxa: the 0 is isnt so important then, it is setTimeout which report the callback exec to the next tick , event with delay>0 isn'it?
14:21:01  <efbeka>*even
14:21:17  <deoxxa>efbeka: correct
14:21:54  <efbeka>Thks :)
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14:22:16  <harbhub>require('./app/config')(app, exp);
14:22:24  <harbhub>does that put app, exp
14:22:29  <harbhub>as the params of the function
14:22:35  <harbhub>exported by the config module?
14:22:35  <yawnt>yes
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14:37:51  <harbhub>wait a sec
14:38:00  <harbhub>can you make GET requests in the client-side html?
14:38:05  <harbhub>using js and/or jquery?
14:38:10  <yawnt>yeah
14:38:14  <harbhub>do me
14:38:20  <yawnt>all type of requests
14:38:33  <yawnt>$.get $.post
14:38:34  <harbhub>can i use require in the html on the client-side?
14:38:55  <yawnt>yeah but you must use browserify or something likr requirejd
14:38:58  <yawnt>*js
14:39:02  <yawnt>not out of the box
14:39:08  <harbhub>hmm
14:39:14  <harbhub>which do you recommend?
14:40:11  <yawnt>no clue.. i'm not much into clientside
14:40:11  <nathan7>I personally am very much in favour of browserify
14:40:17  <yawnt>i like browserify though
14:40:46  <harbhub>is it possible for me to be both client-side and server-side developer (realistically)?
14:40:55  <nathan7>Yes.
14:41:09  * alex_____joined
14:41:12  <yawnt>yeah
14:41:12  <alex_____>hello
14:41:13  <cody-->can you live tail an apps log with jitsu
14:41:17  <harbhub>https://github.com/substack/node-browserify
14:41:32  <harbhub>is that the browserify you are speaking about?
14:41:33  <yawnt>google write modules nodejs browser
14:41:38  <yawnt>there's a nice article
14:41:43  <yawnt>yes harbhub
14:41:57  <alex_____>who is a node.js developer here ?
14:42:12  <yawnt>kinda everyone
14:42:22  <yawnt>or do you mean a core developer?
14:42:57  <alex_____>i looking for a coder..for create a node.js chat for me
14:43:09  <nathan7>Ah, you're trying to hire
14:43:12  <cody-->to do what? join an irc channel?
14:43:15  <harbhub>how much ya paying alex, also i'm not your guy haha
14:43:42  <alex_____>not irc chatnel
14:43:56  <alex_____>a random chat alternative mode
14:43:58  <nathan7>harbhub: random browserify/dnode example thingy https://gist.github.com/3729590
14:44:27  <nathan7>harbhub: index.js is clientside code
14:44:52  <alex_____>im not a coder
14:45:07  <harbhub>how do you know about node
14:45:19  <harbhub>checking it out now nathan7
14:45:22  <nathan7>harbhub: C=
14:46:01  <alex_____>ok..im go out
14:46:13  <harbhub>what is shoe and dnode?
14:46:52  * jcrugzzjoined
14:47:16  <harbhub>i like the meepage
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14:49:05  <harbhub>nathan7: yeah i need to learn about shoe and dnode real quick
14:49:09  <harbhub>gonna check out those docs
14:49:15  <harbhub>i have no idea what they are doing lol
14:49:24  <harbhub>i noticed you put on a sock before you put on your shoe :)
14:49:26  <nathan7>shoe is streams over HTTP
14:49:41  * benlowerquit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
14:50:13  <nathan7>it does all the magic that socket.io does under the hood but doesn't force an EventEmitter abstraction on you
14:50:27  <nathan7>and dnode implements awesome RPC over any Stream
14:50:33  * jamundquit (Quit: jamund)
14:50:33  <harbhub>ohhhhhh dnode is rpc
14:50:41  <harbhub>haha yep
14:50:43  <harbhub>just read that on the github page :)
14:51:07  <harbhub>nathan7: how did you learn all this?
14:51:19  <nathan7>The same way you did. Browse github.
14:51:27  <nathan7>I jump from thing to thing
14:51:31  <nathan7>randomly read bits
14:51:38  <harbhub>yep sounds like me
14:51:48  <harbhub>do you have any projects you are working on?
14:51:50  <nathan7>ADD is an excellent learning method
14:52:07  <harbhub>i don't have ADD though o.0
14:52:12  <harbhub>i just like to learn lots of stuff
14:52:32  <harbhub>are you applying your knowledge to a personal project?
14:52:41  * jcrugzzquit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
14:52:54  <nathan7>I write random bits and pieces when I think of something cool
14:53:09  <mmalecki>wait
14:53:16  <mmalecki>I'm having an epic deja vu
14:53:30  <mmalecki>any chance someone said that in this channel already?
14:53:31  <AvianFlu>WAIT
14:53:38  <AvianFlu>YOU'VE HAD THIS EPIC DEJA VU BEFORE
14:54:06  <nathan7>I don't care about the deja vu, but it's fucking raining outside
14:54:12  <nathan7>and I need to go home at some point :|
14:54:19  * ferloresquit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
14:54:24  <mmalecki>hrm, nobody did, I grepped logs
14:54:27  <mmalecki>but like
14:54:41  <mmalecki>I knew somebody said something like that already
14:55:04  * lpinjoined
14:55:08  <harbhub>in theory could you write an app that lets the client sign up, log in, record audio from their device, store the audio in some remote file base, then fetch the audio files from User A so that it shows up and is playable on User B's activity feed (User B subscribes/follows User A)
14:55:22  <nathan7>yes
14:55:30  <harbhub>wow
14:55:38  <nathan7>I wonder if the HTML5 audio APIs let you do recording
14:55:40  <harbhub>with a relatively friend UI?
14:55:46  <harbhub>yea it does
14:55:51  <harbhub>you can access the device microphone
14:55:55  <nathan7>Sweet.
14:56:06  <harbhub>hmm not sure about recording though, but you can use the microphone, so i imagine you can record
14:56:21  <harbhub>want to help me build it?
14:56:23  <nathan7>HTML5 audio API gives you access to the raw audio data
14:56:39  <harbhub>yea but i like jplayer
14:56:52  <yawnt>mmalecki: i asked a dev friend if mine
14:57:00  <yawnt>top devs get 1.8 k/month
14:57:03  <harbhub>for some reason (probably a buffer/format issue) i haven't been able to play audio from node site
14:57:10  <booyaa>nathan7: html5 audio api stuff is that the same as the webrtc?
14:57:11  <yawnt>devs 1.3/1.5k a month
14:57:14  <yawnt>:(
14:57:20  * yawntquit (Quit: HAR HAR)
14:57:21  <mmalecki>yawnt: oh well...
14:57:39  * jamundjoined
14:58:35  * coderarityis getting really hyped about imminent incoming 1570$
14:59:22  <nathan7>monies
14:59:31  <coderarity>selling stuff is the greatest thing ever
14:59:44  <coderarity>anyone know how to package a 30 lb computer properly?
14:59:47  <nathan7>my most recent use of money was locking a classmate's sister in his bathroom
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15:00:20  <harbhub>lol
15:00:22  <coderarity>nathan7, sounds productive
15:00:22  * cody--quit (Remote host closed the connection)
15:00:24  <harbhub>you sold a 30lb comp
15:00:29  <harbhub>you owned a 30lb comp!?
15:00:37  * cody--joined
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15:00:38  <coderarity>harbhub, yeah, he wants me to ship it overseas
15:00:38  <coderarity>harbhub, YES IT'S 6 CORE AND STUFF
15:00:46  <harbhub>oh snap
15:00:46  <nathan7>coderarity: very
15:00:46  <coderarity>but i never use it
15:00:46  <coderarity>because my mac does everything i want to
15:00:48  <harbhub>workstation
15:00:52  * cody--joined
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15:00:52  <nathan7>coderarity: she was messing with my productivity
15:01:07  * cody--joined
15:01:15  <harbhub>nathan7: lay down the law
15:01:17  <nathan7>The solution ended up being staring at her straight for a few minutes until she got really creeped out
15:01:28  * cody--quit (Remote host closed the connection)
15:01:29  <nathan7>I am excellent at repelling people.
15:01:32  <coderarity>man, if i wasn't bound by a code of honor i could just keep this money :\
15:01:36  <coderarity>and the computer
15:01:42  * cody--joined
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15:01:42  <harbhub>lol
15:01:46  <coderarity>dumb morals
15:01:51  <harbhub>makes you human
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15:02:02  <coderarity>if i was a koala this might not happen
15:02:12  * cody--joined
15:02:12  <nathan7>this computer is called koala
15:02:16  <nathan7>I hope it isn't immoral
15:02:26  <coderarity>nathan7, watch out for those claws, man
15:02:36  * coderaritynames his computers after ponies so there's never any hostility
15:02:50  <coderarity>just friendship
15:03:15  <coderarity>did you know it costs the same money to send the computer to florida and germany?
15:03:18  <coderarity>that's pretty ridiculous
15:03:41  <harbhub>that is crazy
15:03:52  <harbhub>aka we are getting screwed by the shipping company
15:04:00  * ramitosquit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
15:04:10  <harbhub>nathan7: want to help me put together that app?
15:04:34  * robhawkesquit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
15:05:08  <nathan7>harbhub: Possibly
15:05:48  <harbhub>nathan7: sweet, it will be productive to say the least, we might even become rich and famous
15:06:00  <nathan7>lol
15:06:09  <harbhub>heh
15:06:20  * tizzo-afkchanged nick to tizzo
15:06:26  <harbhub>i have an hour to dedicate right now
15:06:28  <nathan7>If I wanted to become rich and famous I'd sing a song in youtube in a costume made of dildos or something
15:06:34  <nathan7>Instant fame.
15:06:36  <harbhub>then i have to study for a test and i have to tutor
15:06:50  <harbhub>yep that would probably do the trick
15:06:51  <harbhub>haha
15:07:16  <nathan7>My self-esteem is excellent at the moment, so no dildo-costumes for me
15:07:22  <harbhub>haha
15:07:30  <harbhub>you are unique
15:07:42  <harbhub>never met a mind quiet like nathan7's
15:08:01  <nathan7>I may well be uniqe in my insanity.
15:08:30  <harbhub>you arent crazy enough to post a video of you dancing in a dildo costume, though
15:08:49  <nathan7>certainly not, it's not very original
15:09:08  <nathan7>and I'm quite certain it'd limit my career opportunities
15:09:11  <harbhub>do you use socketstream at all?
15:09:21  <harbhub>oh ya that would set you back career-wise
15:09:24  <nathan7>socketstream?
15:09:32  <harbhub>yep its an rpc based node library
15:09:35  <nathan7>haven't played with that
15:09:40  <harbhub>you'll like it
15:09:49  <harbhub>you've played with socketio?
15:10:00  <nathan7>I dislike socket.io
15:10:10  <nathan7>though I'm not entirely sure why
15:10:11  <harbhub>do you like websockets in general?
15:10:59  <nathan7>WebSockets are an excellent thing
15:11:09  <harbhub>hmm
15:11:16  <harbhub>do you like Express?
15:11:23  <nathan7>Certainly.
15:11:28  <harbhub>mognodb?
15:11:31  <harbhub>mongo*
15:11:35  <nathan7>Before node.js I wrote Python, and did web magic with Flask.
15:11:40  <nathan7>MongoDB is pretty cool
15:12:16  <harbhub>you like node more than python now?
15:12:34  <nathan7>More flexibility.
15:12:47  <nathan7>More room for gigantic screwups and for lovely innovation.
15:12:54  <harbhub>nicely put
15:13:07  <nathan7>Python is clean, but it comes at a cost.
15:13:16  <harbhub>what cost does node come at?
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15:14:02  <harbhub>i want to build this sound app with you
15:14:05  <nathan7>The freedom to grandly fuck shit up.
15:14:09  <harbhub>haha
15:14:26  <nathan7>I am working on fixing a trainwreck that a friend wrote
15:14:34  <harbhub>what does it do?
15:14:36  <nathan7>And it is an excellent example of this
15:14:52  <nathan7>It runs the LED wall at the Amsterdam hackerspace.
15:15:03  <harbhub>no idea what that means
15:15:15  <nathan7>We have one of those glass brick walls facing the street
15:15:34  <nathan7>And we stuck big-ass RGB LEDs to it
15:15:50  <nathan7>it's a 10x12 colour screen
15:16:17  <nathan7>It has a really trippy rainbow animation and a game of life implementation and a variety of other silly magic
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15:16:36  <harbhub>cool
15:16:42  <harbhub>so you are using node to control it?
15:16:56  <nathan7>Yep
15:16:59  <harbhub>wow
15:17:03  <harbhub>i like how smart you are
15:17:09  <harbhub>do you realize that you are smart?
15:17:18  <coderarity>nathan7, your name is smart
15:17:22  <coderarity>nathan7, i'd suggest /nick smart
15:17:23  <harbhub>haha
15:17:33  <nathan7>I'm more intelligent than a load of people, but that goes for plenty here.
15:17:44  <harbhub>yep
15:17:57  <harbhub>i'd guess that 100% of the people in this chat are smarter than average
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15:18:20  <nathan7>Close to that, yes.
15:18:52  <harbhub>are you familiar with continuous-passing style?
15:19:03  <cody-->can i live tail my apps logs with jitsu?
15:19:20  <nathan7>harbhub: What do you mean by that?
15:19:34  <coderarity>cody--, not yet, but soon
15:19:34  <harbhub>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation-passing_style
15:19:34  <kohai>cody has -19 beers
15:19:43  <cody-->kk
15:19:45  <harbhub>nathan7: i was reading dnode on github
15:19:51  <nathan7>ahaha
15:19:51  <harbhub>it mentioned cps
15:20:12  <nathan7>I am entertained by the fact that cody--'s nick triggers kohai
15:20:30  <nathan7>harbhub: That's the standard callback magic, no?
15:20:39  <harbhub>yep
15:20:48  <harbhub>to actually return the function value
15:21:43  <nathan7>You can't really return actual values without doing stuff like fibers
15:22:01  <harbhub>that must be the cps stuff, then
15:22:18  <harbhub>nathan7: how long have you been programming?
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15:22:49  <nathan7>Since I was 7, so that makes about 10 years.
15:22:55  <harbhub>wow
15:23:02  <harbhub>no wonder you guys are more pro than i am
15:23:07  <harbhub>i have less than 6 months under my belt
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15:23:56  <AvianFlu>I started programming the same year that mmalecki[away] and coderarity were born
15:24:21  <kokotron>zing
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15:24:45  <coderarity>that was a great year
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15:26:26  <harbhub>lol
15:27:04  <harbhub>hey your code doesnt work!
15:27:13  <harbhub>https://gist.github.com/3729590
15:27:15  <harbhub>i just recreated that
15:27:18  <harbhub>npm installed
15:27:25  <harbhub>and i get D=
15:27:33  <nathan7>you could've git cloned mine
15:27:46  <nathan7>and sure as hell it works
15:27:53  <harbhub>you can clone a gist?
15:28:08  <nathan7>yes..?
15:28:12  <nathan7>that's the idea of git
15:28:23  <nathan7>a gist is just a git repo
15:29:11  <harbhub>yours doesnt work either
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15:29:26  <harbhub>i get meep! whee
15:29:28  <harbhub>in the console log
15:29:39  <harbhub>is that what it's supposed to do?
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15:29:56  <harbhub>i thought it was going to put meep! whee in the html rendered view
15:30:05  <nathan7>No
15:30:10  <nathan7>I'd have to pass console then
15:30:12  <harbhub>in place of the D=
15:30:21  <harbhub>oh so it worked the first time then lol
15:30:22  <nathan7>dnode doesn't do any non-obvious magic
15:30:33  <nathan7>it's supposed to turn the HTML into =D
15:31:08  <harbhub>nope
15:31:12  <harbhub>mine is still sad face
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15:31:38  <nathan7>:(
15:31:48  <harbhub>yeppppp
15:31:51  <coderarity>man, shoe/dnode is cool
15:32:05  <nathan7>YES
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15:34:53  <nathan7>harbhub: http://nathan7.eu:3000/
15:35:01  <nathan7>worksforme
15:35:15  <harbhub>still a sad face
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15:35:29  <harbhub>D=
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15:36:07  <jmpe>Can anyone suggest the proper way to install forever-monitor as an NSSM service on Windows?
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15:38:00  <nathan7>harbhub: odd
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15:38:05  <nathan7>harbhub: check your console?
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15:39:01  <jmpe>Here is the code I am trying to install as an NSSM service: http://pastebin.com/uhUCeQyF
15:39:01  <harbhub>i need to install firebug
15:39:24  <nathan7>ctrl-shift-J
15:39:25  <harbhub>nathan7: i gotta go soon
15:39:29  <nathan7>I haven't tested it on Firefox
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15:40:47  <harbhub>ya firefox doesnt like it
15:40:52  <harbhub>not.one.bit. lol
15:40:58  <jmpe>Then I attempt nssm install "foo" "c:\program files\nodejs\node.exe" "path\to\forever-monitor.js"
15:41:17  <jmpe>The service immediately pauses.
15:41:17  <harbhub>nathan7: i've got to leave soon
15:41:31  <nathan7>harbhub: it says nothing at all?
15:41:35  <harbhub>gotta study for a traffic engineering test
15:41:40  <harbhub>it says a lot
15:41:46  <jmpe>But it I install it directly without forever-monitor it installs.
15:41:52  <sasaki>Does anyone know if CouchDB hosting is available through Nodejitsu?
15:42:01  <harbhub>Timestamp: 9/18/12 11:32:49 AM Warning: Error in parsing value for 'background'. Declaration dropped. Source File: https://a248.e.akamai.net/assets.github.com/assets/github-6f96eda30ff1556bf501fd7c2915aa0157322687.css Line: 1
15:42:30  <harbhub>Timestamp: 9/18/12 11:32:49 AM Warning: Unknown property 'user-select'. Declaration dropped. Source File: https://a248.e.akamai.net/assets.github.com/assets/github-6f96eda30ff1556bf501fd7c2915aa0157322687.css Line: 1
15:42:36  <harbhub>it says that stuff
15:43:13  <nathan7>odd
15:43:20  <harbhub>chea
15:43:31  <nathan7>that's github, not my code
15:43:31  <harbhub>wanna start the sound app?
15:43:35  <harbhub>yep
15:43:40  <nathan7>it's probably old
15:43:51  <harbhub>old assets
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15:46:13  <harbhub>nathan7: if you do want to help me build the sound sharing app
15:46:31  <harbhub>then we should use redis to make a message system
15:46:36  <harbhub>so that users can message each other
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15:48:07  <bechtel>is anybody online who can help me with deploy issues?
15:48:13  <coderarity>yes
15:48:32  <nathan7>harbhub: mkay
15:48:34  <kokotron>what would you all choose as a socket.io alternative for websockets (for those of you who don't use socket.io)?
15:49:06  <harbhub>ask nathan7, he hates socketio lol
15:49:16  <kokotron>im torn between 'websocket' and 'ws'
15:49:26  <harbhub>pick one
15:49:30  <bechtel>coderarity: All app deploys hang at "starting app" - I've had this issue on multiple apps I've only been able to deploy apps a couple times in the few months I've been using jitsu
15:49:46  <harbhub>start app.js
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15:49:49  <harbhub>in your package.json
15:49:49  <coderarity>bechtel, what's your username/app name?
15:49:52  <harbhub>add the extension
15:49:59  <bechtel>bechtel/bechtel-live
15:50:01  <nathan7>kokotron: shoe
15:50:12  <nathan7>kokotron: shoe handles all the magic of fallbacks for websockets
15:50:20  <nathan7>kokotron: and provides you with just a stream
15:50:26  <kokotron>pretty much like socket.io?
15:50:26  <bechtel>I either get socket hangups or 500 errors when trying to deploy
15:50:52  <coderarity>bechtel, check `jitsu logs`
15:51:00  <harbhub>nathan7: i'll make an express app and put in on github
15:51:04  <harbhub>whats your username?
15:51:08  <bechtel>no logs
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15:51:17  <coderarity>okay
15:51:17  <nathan7>harbhub: frozenfire
15:51:27  <nathan7>harbhub: as you could've figured out from the gist (;
15:51:33  <harbhub>yea
15:51:36  <harbhub>i remember now
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15:51:37  <harbhub>lol
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15:51:50  <harbhub>im making an express app
15:51:53  <harbhub>do you like jade?
15:51:57  <bechtel>this has been a massive issue for me when trying to deploy - our company is auditing heroku and nodejitsu and we chose nodejitsu for websocket support but these deploy issues are killing us
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15:52:31  <AvianFlu>bechtel: can you gist me the output you're seeing?
15:52:35  <harbhub>nathan7: do you like Jade?
15:52:43  <nathan7>harbhub: I'm not sure
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15:52:53  <nathan7>I'm leaning towards EJS
15:52:55  <harbhub>nathan7: okay but you know html
15:52:59  <nathan7>templating is no fun :(
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15:53:03  <harbhub>ya
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15:53:06  <nathan7>I've been playing with angular
15:53:07  <harbhub>we dont need much templating
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15:53:29  <nathan7>Angular is pretty cool but I have to play with it more
15:54:12  <bechtel>AvianFlu: http://pastebin.com/1m8Pv4DP
15:54:35  <nathan7>Mustache is tempting though
15:55:07  <nathan7>I haven't used mustache, I have played with Jade and briefly with EJS
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15:55:21  <nathan7>I think I should go for Mustache, I haven't found any reason to dislike it yet
15:55:30  <bechtel>if i delete the app then try to deploy again it will switch to a 500 error then start working after 40-50 attempts to deploy
15:55:32  <harbhub>its a funny name to say the least
15:55:40  <coderarity>bechtel, btw, you shouldn't have that --debug flag in the scripts.start field
15:55:41  <bechtel>thats what i had to do last time at least
15:55:46  <nathan7>It's an excellent name
15:56:36  <coderarity>bechtel, you can't use node version 0.4 anymore
15:56:41  <AvianFlu>bechtel: what kind of 500 error
15:56:45  <coderarity>bechtel, upgrade to node 0.6 or 0.8
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15:56:53  <coderarity>preferably 0.8
15:56:54  <bechtel>coderarity its set to >=0.4
15:56:57  <AvianFlu>bechtel: we rolled out a new build system, these errors shouldn't be continuing
15:57:11  <AvianFlu>coderarity: he's correct, >=0.4 will land on 0.8
15:57:12  <bechtel>im on 0.8 local i assumed that nodejitsu would use 0.8 if i set >=0.4
15:57:43  <bechtel>i fixed the scripts.start and its still hanging on deploy, ill delete the app and try to recreate the 500
15:57:45  <AvianFlu>bechtel: are you running `jitsu deploy` or `jitsu apps start`
15:57:53  <bechtel>ive tried making a new account and using new computer its the same issue
15:57:56  <bechtel>jitsu deploy
15:58:08  <coderarity>oh, right
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15:58:44  <bechtel>if i try to start the app manually via the web panel it will hang too
15:58:46  <harbhub>nathan7: so are we going mustache on Sounds?
15:59:09  <nathan7>absolutely
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15:59:24  <AvianFlu>bechtel: you shouldn't use the web panel right now, stick to jitsu for consistency
15:59:42  <harbhub>ok i'll add that in as the view engine
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15:59:47  <bechtel>fyi the web panel is bugged out - chrome says Error 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS): There were too many redirects. when visiting develop.nodejitsu.com
15:59:50  <yawn>bah
15:59:51  <harbhub>and view options to go with that order?
15:59:53  <yawn>*bach
16:00:14  <nathan7>harbhub: no idea
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16:00:38  <coderarity>bechtel, yeah, just use jitsu
16:01:29  <bechtel>okay i found a workaround - jitsu apps restart will work fine but jitsu apps start hangs and the start after deploy hangs too
16:01:51  <bechtel>so ill just deploy, exit when its attempting to start, then run a restart
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16:02:08  <st_luke>what's the license on jitsu?
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16:02:17  <coderarity>st_luke, MIT
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16:02:31  <nathan7>I need to set up haibu on my fresh VPS
16:02:41  <st_luke>coderarity: can you update the repo with it? it's not noted anywhere on the repo or the package.json
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16:02:54  <coderarity>st_luke, hmmm, that's a good point
16:03:21  <coderarity>i guess at this point it isn't MIT
16:03:39  <nathan7>harbhub: I'm off for a bit for social matters
16:03:57  <harbhub>okay
16:04:03  <harbhub>i'll be gone for a while
16:04:09  <harbhub>since i have to work and study
16:04:14  <harbhub>but i'll first put the project on github
16:04:28  <coderarity>bechtel, you should create snapshots with `jitsu snapshots create`
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16:04:39  <AvianFlu>bechtel: how big is your app, if you run `npm pack` locally?
16:04:42  <coderarity>bechtel, but restarting shouldn't solve the problem
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16:13:26  <coderarity>bechtel, can you show me your latest package.json?
16:14:22  <thlorenz>#nodejs
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16:17:27  <coderarity>bechtel, also, you can load your coffee stuff directly with jitsu, so your start script could be "coffee app/web/server/app.coffee" and then you wouldn't need the app.js file
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16:22:18  <coderarity>bechtel, and you bundled all of your dependencies it seems - with the new build server, you shouldn't have to bundle everything, drones shouldn't run out of memory due to npm anymore.
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16:23:57  <coderarity>bechtel, in any case, can I also get you to show me the output of `npm ls -g`?
16:26:37  <gbhatnag>hi all - new to node + flatiron -- wondering if there are any tutorials out there to build a sample application (i.e. the quintessential build-a-blog or todo-list app) using flatiron, resourceful, plates, etc. ?
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16:27:37  <coderarity>gbhatnag, there's https://github.com/nodeapps and also some tutorials and such on http://blog.nodejitsu.com/
16:27:40  <gbhatnag>based on some initial Googling, I keep getting pointed back to the examples in the github project repos, but they all seem pretty barebones
16:28:00  <gbhatnag>code rarity, thanks!
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17:12:49  <sberryman>is there a tool that will analyze your package.json and then look at all the dependencies and tell you what the latest versions are of each package you have listed? just to give you an idea if you are not using the latest version and even better would be the ability to look at a diff between your current version and the latest :)
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17:13:17  <AvianFlu>npm-police, probably
17:13:50  <sberryman>[email protected]
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17:14:52  <sberryman>hmm, looks like something you guys wrote
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17:16:16  <doubletap>are there plans to implement a state persistent deploy in jitsu?
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17:16:48  <doubletap>like a restartless deploy or even just a static file deploy?
17:16:50  <coderarity>i don't think so, but there are plans to help you solve that problem
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17:31:55  <doubletap>coderarity: could you give me a bit more detail on the plans and timeline? I am considering building in that persistence to my app now.
17:32:22  <st_luke>had nachos for breakfast now I have absolute no idea what to have for lunch
17:32:37  <doubletap>cereal
17:32:56  <doubletap>preferrably fruity pebbles
17:33:30  <AvianFlu>fruitypebbles++
17:33:30  <kohai>fruitypebbles has 1 beer
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17:43:00  <coderarity>doubletap, it'll be a while
17:43:06  <coderarity>doubletap, not really sure exactly when
17:43:21  <coderarity>it might be part of billing, but i doubt it
17:43:46  <doubletap>cool. i do too many releases. i better build in some persistent sessions :)
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18:00:17  <jamund>What's the latest version of jitsu
18:00:23  <coderarity>0.9.8
18:00:54  <jamund>oh man I have 0.9.6
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18:08:31  <st_luke>cinnamon_toast_crunch++
18:08:31  <kohai>cinnamon_toast_crunch has 1 beer
18:08:46  <coderarity>man i love that cereal
18:09:24  <st_luke>dudes I've been testing out the notification api on couch for a few hours with a 5 second heartbeat and the http connection still hasn't dropped
18:09:26  <st_luke>couch is so great
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18:23:59  <jcrugzz>yea couch definitely has some cool features
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18:31:54  <sberryman>problem accessing develop.nodejitsu.com (This webpage has a redirect loop)
18:32:17  <sberryman>weird, might be something with chrome
18:32:20  <sberryman>let me restart it
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18:32:45  <sberryman>take that back, firefox is having the same problem
18:33:35  <sberryman>AvianFlu coderarity mmalecki[away]: ^
18:34:19  <AvianFlu>sberryman: use jitsu for now, if it's not a problem - we're looking into it
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18:36:50  <sberryman>sure, not a problem at all
18:37:06  <sberryman>weird thing is that it worked when using curl
18:37:15  <AvianFlu>yeah there's something super-funky going on, and it's just that app
18:37:23  <AvianFlu>we'll track it down
18:40:13  <sberryman>bradleymeck: any luck yesterday looking at the issue trying to deploy my app (sberryman / teeleader-app)?
18:40:27  <sberryman>still getting a socket hang up error
18:40:47  <bradleymeck>sberryman: its just the enomem error from your app consuming memory whenever i was watching / testing
18:41:41  <bradleymeck>so literally its a socket hangup from the app closing it, working on getting more verbose logs specced out.
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18:45:01  <sberryman>thanks
18:45:28  <sberryman>anything suggesetions i can try to reduce memory usage?
18:45:31  <sberryman>suggestions*
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19:05:32  <jmpe>AvianFlu: Would you know if forever-monitor can be installed on a Windows machine using NSSM?
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19:06:27  <AvianFlu>haven't tried it
19:06:38  <AvianFlu>it doesn't completely behave on windows, either
19:06:40  <AvianFlu>it mostly does
19:06:49  <AvianFlu>but I left out a step in libuv
19:06:58  <AvianFlu>the monitored child will have an empty window on the desktop
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19:07:45  <AvianFlu>I've got a patch for it, if you want to get fancy
19:07:57  <AvianFlu>you'd probably need an executable script to start the monitor up
19:08:05  <AvianFlu>and make that the servic
19:08:06  <AvianFlu>e
19:09:00  <jmpe>Would this be the best course to get forever or forever-monitor installed as a service on Windows?
19:09:11  <jmpe>I need to start the app on reboot.
19:09:38  <AvianFlu>yeah, write up a start script, and arrange things so you can just double-click it and windows knows what to do
19:09:45  <AvianFlu>i.e. register the file type or whatever
19:09:56  <AvianFlu>this is an educated guess, though, I haven't had time to try this myself
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19:14:25  <jmpe>This morning I installed a script using forever with nssm like this: nssm "service" /path/to/node path/to/script forever
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19:15:00  <jmpe>I think I would prefer forever-monitor though...
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19:15:23  <jmpe>I can get the service to install but it will not start.
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19:16:10  <jmpe>Am I correct to assume that forever is currently less stable than forever-monitor on Windows?
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19:16:48  <AvianFlu>jmpe: yes
19:16:55  <AvianFlu>although the problems are likely not that complicated
19:17:19  <AvianFlu>you should be able to use forever-monitor yourself fine, though
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19:22:27  <jmpe>forever-monitor seems to work well if I launch it manually. I am running into trouble though when I try to install it as a service using nssm
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19:22:54  <jmpe>It seems to create the service, but at net start, it immediately pauses and will not start?
19:23:11  <AvianFlu>see if you can get some kind of error info
19:23:12  <AvianFlu>or debugging
19:23:13  <jmpe>The forever-monitor code looks like this: http://pastebin.com/uhUCeQyF
19:23:16  <AvianFlu>I'm not really sure, offhand
19:23:39  <yawnt>AvianFlu: ping
19:23:44  <AvianFlu>yeah, this is something with the way that NSSM expects things to behave
19:23:52  <AvianFlu>not really sure without doing a bunch of testing
19:23:54  <AvianFlu>yawnt: sup
19:24:05  <yawnt>AvianFlu: you know the 'preserve indentation stuff' on jitsu?
19:24:19  <yawnt>like it does not care of the previous indentation.. it just goes with 2 standard
19:24:21  <AvianFlu>like, the "don't mess with my package.json formatting" stuff?
19:24:24  <yawnt>yeah
19:24:32  <AvianFlu>yeah, it would be good to fix that
19:24:33  <yawnt>https://github.com/yawnt/jitsu/compare/json-indentation
19:24:38  <AvianFlu>ohnicelol
19:24:44  <yawnt>i did, but i don't know if you like the way i did
19:24:49  <yawnt>so i wanted to ask before pull requesting
19:25:03  <yawnt>i made a module that extracts the indentation from a json string
19:25:21  <yawnt>so basically if there are problems with that you can focus on the module itself
19:25:35  <AvianFlu>I'll look it over
19:25:39  <yawnt>but i saw an issue from indexzero that was saying there were too many dependencies
19:25:42  <yawnt>that's why i asked
19:25:58  <yawnt>https://github.com/yawnt/ladder
19:26:00  <yawnt>this is the module
19:26:03  <yawnt>i checked and everything works fine
19:26:18  <yawnt>tests are passing and stuff..
19:28:01  <yawnt>so yeah.. lemme know :P
19:28:04  <yawnt>i'm going to eat
19:28:06  <yawnt>later
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19:41:29  <yawnt>hey Sly
19:41:33  <yawnt>how did ya sleep
19:41:41  <Sly>Hey.
19:41:45  <Sly>Alright, I suppose.
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19:47:06  <nathan7>yawnt: what's ladder do?
19:47:21  <nathan7>yawnt: ah
19:47:28  <yawnt>nathan7: dat
19:47:28  <yawnt>:P
19:47:32  <yawnt>also
19:47:35  <yawnt>reboot
19:47:36  <yawnt>later
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19:53:47  <kokotron>can i ask you all something completely unrelated to nodejitsu or coding - movie title question
19:54:06  <jesusabdullah>I mean
19:54:09  <jesusabdullah>up to you man
19:54:16  <kokotron>hehe
19:55:07  <AvianFlu>the title should clearly be
19:55:13  <AvianFlu>THE AWESOMER
19:55:23  <AvianFlu>I leave its meaning to interpretation
19:55:38  <jesusabdullah>I want to do a brad neeley style video called "the super devops action squad"
19:55:43  <kokotron>think it was made in the 70's-80's (american film) about a guy who lives in the wilderness with a native american woman and a boy, they don't like eachother at first but then grow to love eachother. then some soldiers come and seek the protaganists help to guide the soldiers through a canyon or something
19:56:07  <jesusabdullah>no bells here
19:56:19  <kokotron>but there is a short-cut through a forbidden indian burial ground. the soldiers want to take the short-cut, but the protaganist advises that they take the long way
19:56:55  <AvianFlu>oh, you mean that kind of movie title question
19:57:08  <kokotron>eventually they convince the protaganist to take the short-cut, but when he returns to the woman and child- they have been killed by the indians who created the burial ground
19:57:17  <kokotron>ring any bells?
19:57:26  <AvianFlu>so, you might be talking about that robert redford movie
19:57:31  <kokotron>baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
19:57:41  <kokotron>yeah!
19:57:49  <AvianFlu>it's like… a name
19:57:52  <AvianFlu>gimme a minue
19:57:57  <AvianFlu>jeremiah or joshua something
19:58:07  <blakmatrix>kokotron: that sounds like a john wayne movie
19:58:34  <AvianFlu>jeremiah johnson is the one I'm thinking of
19:58:41  <kokotron>yeah!! yes! thank you
19:58:44  <kokotron>i can continue coding now
19:58:48  <AvianFlu>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068762/
19:58:59  <AvianFlu>I FREE ALL IMPEDIMENTS TO CODING
19:59:04  <kokotron>man that was driving me crazy
19:59:11  <AvianFlu>free(impediments);
19:59:49  <kokotron>{return all_worldly_knowledge;}
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20:22:50  <webrover>Hi folks !
20:23:45  <webrover>I'm having problems deploying my app, as I just tweeted to @nodejitsu
20:23:53  <jesusabdullah>I see!
20:23:55  <jesusabdullah>So
20:24:07  <jesusabdullah>tell me more about your app, and what happens when you try to deploy
20:24:22  <jesusabdullah>full output of jitsu in a https://gist.github.com is a good start
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20:24:55  <webrover>well jesusabdullah , this is what i get ! http://twitpic.com/aw2ak5
20:25:07  <jesusabdullah>webrover: I need text logs, and that's just the bit at the end
20:25:15  <jesusabdullah>webrover: I need the stuff at the beginning too
20:25:29  <webrover>okies, wait a sec. will redeploy.
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20:27:15  <webrover>jesusabdullah: i don't get anything more, here's the gist https://gist.github.com/b9d6cc4d5e643249f07b
20:27:52  <jesusabdullah>webrover: on the contrary, seeing the jitsu version, package.json, etc., is very helpful inded
20:27:55  <jesusabdullah>indeed*
20:28:16  <st_luke>they ordered SSDs for everyones computers and didn't ask me if I wanted one
20:28:18  <jesusabdullah>I also have your username and app name
20:28:22  <st_luke>I'm officially looking for a new job
20:28:30  <jesusabdullah>so I can actually track down the deploy in our logs
20:30:17  <webrover>jesusabdullah: just updated the gist
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20:31:00  <jesusabdullah>webrover: naw I meant, all that information is in the full jitsu logs
20:31:04  <jesusabdullah>if you look closely
20:31:13  <BrandonGriggs>trying to log in at nodejitsu is giving me "This webpage has a redirect loop"
20:31:26  <jesusabdullah>BrandonGriggs: they're investigating, in the meantime use jitsu
20:31:35  <jesusabdullah>frankly, the web ui is pretty crummy
20:31:42  <jesusabdullah>new one is coming out Any Day Now (tm)
20:31:45  <webrover>jesusabdullah ah, yes ! got it.
20:32:16  <jesusabdullah>webrover: fwiw you should definitely upgrade your node to the latest on the 0.8 branch
20:32:20  <jesusabdullah>that's like 0.8.9 I want to say
20:32:43  <webrover>jesusabdullah: sure, can do !
20:32:44  <jesusabdullah>your jitsu version looks good though
20:32:54  <jesusabdullah>in the meantime I'm ssh-ing into some boxes to scope some stuff out
20:33:13  <BrandonGriggs>jesusabdullah: is it possible to get a shorter version of logs from jitsu? Its always more than my command line will display
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20:34:16  <webrover>jesusabdullah: cool, will be hanging here, lemme know. I've plans to showoff nodejitsu in a user group tom. would be superb if things were more stable.
20:36:31  <jesusabdullah>webrover: can you remove the "repository" field from your package.json and try again?
20:36:51  <blakmatrix>BrandonGriggs: I forwarded your info to mmalecki for the SSL cert, he'll probably get around to installing it tonight (when he gets up)
20:37:53  <BrandonGriggs>blakmatrix: thanks, that'd be great...we're hoping to launch in a day or two and really need to get that in place
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20:38:58  <webrover>jesusabdullah: hmm... it did go further ahead. taking quite a while to start though.
20:39:26  <jesusabdullah>webrover: we'll see what the issue is if/when it breaks
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20:40:45  <webrover>jesusabdullah: jesusabdullah it broke again though :( https://gist.github.com/2b4ed555c4cd558b1f07
20:40:56  <jesusabdullah>patience, young padewan
20:41:03  <webrover>jesusabdullah: no wait !
20:41:19  <webrover>i redeployed and it worked.
20:41:43  <jesusabdullah>in that case, it sounds like you hit a box that was missing the 'coffee' binary
20:41:53  <jesusabdullah>fwiw I prefer to deploy javascript
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20:43:06  <webrover>jesusabdullah: sure, i understand ! but isn't 'npm start' supposed to pick up coffee from the node_modules/bin/ ?
20:43:59  <jesusabdullah>we're not using npm start, we're using haibu
20:44:09  <jesusabdullah>same field, different start mechanism
20:44:16  <webrover>jesusabdullah: ah yes !
20:44:31  <webrover>guess i should run haibu on my mc as well.
20:45:10  <webrover>and btw, would it still break if my repository field was populated ?
20:45:11  <jesusabdullah>I mean
20:45:29  <webrover>jesusabdullah: i got what you meant :)
20:45:31  <jesusabdullah>webrover: I don't think it would break
20:46:11  <webrover>jesusabdullah: okies great ! Thanks for the support. and one bug goes to your tracker. Cheers.
20:46:23  <jesusabdullah>also I would probably just use npm start, excepting for the $PATH shenanigans and exec vs. spawn, but, yeah
20:46:33  <jesusabdullah>other than those things, npm start is a good way to check for sanity
20:46:39  <jesusabdullah>anyways webrover: cheers
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20:54:56  <fatjonny>Is pngquant or something similar available on nodejitsu? Or better yet, is there a list of available programs for nodejitsu somewhere?
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20:56:27  <webrover>jesusabdullah: you there ! i had a question in mind.
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20:56:51  <jesusabdullah>webrover: shoot
20:57:26  <jesusabdullah>fatjonny: not familiar with pngquant but here's a non-exhaustive list of bins http://which.jit.su/
20:57:26  <webrover>how does the so called "auto scaling" work ? as I assume i can't increase or decrease drones manually.
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20:57:44  <jesusabdullah>webrover: it will be exposed in the new web ui we're working on
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20:58:15  <webrover>aha ! and anything on the jitsu client. I like it much better.
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20:59:19  <webrover>jesusabdullah: and anyway i can live debug ? repl/bash ... jitsu-something ?
21:00:37  <jesusabdullah>no, we don't expose anything like that, though you're free to expose a repl inside your app
21:00:40  <jesusabdullah>I've done that before
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21:01:37  <fatjonny>jesusabdullah: hmm, so it doesn't seem like any of those compress pngs. I like to use http://tinypng.org/ and was hoping I could automate making my pngs smaller since I am already using imagemagick (convert and composite). I suppose it is a painful process to try to get something like pngquant (or pngcrush) added?
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21:02:45  <jesusabdullah>fatjonny: unsure. Can you shoot [email protected] an email about what these bins are and such? I can then turn that into something the devops guys can handle
21:03:02  <fatjonny>jesusabdullah: Will do.
21:03:07  <jesusabdullah>a'ight
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21:12:29  <fatjonny>jesusabdullah: Email sent.
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21:15:04  <yawnot>back
21:15:20  <webrover>jesusabdullah: was away ! so how do you expose a repl in your app ? or even multiple processes in the same drone ?
21:16:00  <webrover>i'm just trying to wrap my head around this. is forewoman a good tool to use inside haibu ?
21:16:48  <blakmatrix>webrover: this might help http://docs.nodejitsu.com/articles/REPL/how-to-create-a-custom-repl
21:17:17  <webrover>blakmatrix: thx.
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21:17:56  <webrover>jesusabdullah: blakmatrix: what about running multiple processes ? background workers/etc.
21:18:35  <webrover>btw, thx for the link to docs ! looks pretty sweet.
21:18:47  <blakmatrix>webrover: you usually dont want to spawn extra processes, but if you must you can use child processes
21:21:35  <webrover>okies. will look into the docs.
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21:24:32  <jesusabdullah>fatjonny: received
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21:28:11  <jesusabdullah>fatjonny: I'll make an issue in our systems repos for this in a bit, probably talk to maciej about it too
21:28:51  <fatjonny>jesusabdullah: sounds good. :)
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21:52:21  <jesusabdullah>yo looks like yawnt fixed the "hey jitsu messed with my tabs" issue https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/pull/316
21:52:25  <jesusabdullah>ljharb: ^^
21:56:37  <garrettwilkin>jesusabdullah: did that load balancer issue get fixed once and for all?
21:57:36  <jesusabdullah>which load balancer issue? >_<
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22:03:36  <sberryman>what happens if i bump the deploy timeout above 4 minutes in jitsu?
22:03:45  <sberryman>is that what triggers the socket hang up?
22:04:14  <blakmatrix>sberryman: only if its a client side hange up
22:04:31  <blakmatrix>usually only happens if it takes a long time to install dependencies
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22:05:15  <sberryman>hopefully bradleymeck quickly figures out how to stream stdio output from the install process back to the jitsu client soon :)
22:07:21  <sberryman>i'm really annoyed i cant figure out how to deploy my socketstream app in jitsu
22:07:40  <sberryman>having ZERO output from the npm install and or starting the app isnt helping
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22:08:18  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] flatiron/flatiron#165 (master - 2c35413 : Pavan Kumar Sunkara): The build is still failing.
22:08:18  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/flatiron/compare/4e0523d1420e...2c35413ff064
22:08:18  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/flatiron/builds/2498000
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22:10:34  <yawnot>npm down for everyone or just me_
22:10:35  <yawnot>?
22:10:44  <yawnot>(cit.)
22:11:09  <yawnot>down for everyone
22:11:10  <yawnot>so sad
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22:11:15  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] flatiron/utile#71 (master - 3160c0e : Pavan Kumar Sunkara): The build passed.
22:11:15  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/utile/compare/6f2db77930ef...3160c0e959a6
22:11:15  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/utile/builds/2498063
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22:11:15  <yawnot>:(
22:11:21  <chilts>looks like it for me too
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22:16:29  <Nodejitsu-Github>[director] pksunkara force-pushed master from 70eebc0 to 76e6b96: http://git.io/HemSGA
22:16:29  <Nodejitsu-Github>[director/master] [dist] Version bump v1.1.6 - Pavan Kumar Sunkara
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22:18:58  <Sly>Back.
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22:24:38  <yawnot>In Black.
22:24:44  <yawnot>gonna listen to it now
22:24:59  <yawnot>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwIvBNsSywQ
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22:29:03  <sberryman>coderarity or jesusabdullah you guys around?
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22:31:10  <Sly>Probably not at the moment, sberryman. Do you need help with something Nodejitsu related, or just a general question?
22:31:41  <sberryman>need more info in why a deploy keeps getting socket hang up
22:32:07  <yawnot>sberryman: it's usually when you hit a bad drone
22:32:12  <yawnot>if you retry again
22:32:15  <yawnot>and it still fails
22:32:19  <yawnot>paste the package.json in a gist
22:32:21  <sberryman>tried about 5 times now :)
22:32:23  <yawnot>and link it here
22:32:27  <yawnot>:)
22:32:57  <sberryman>actually 2 of my apps are not deploying right now (1 has been a long process to try and figure out why the socketstream app isnt deploying) but havent really had any trouble deploying my api
22:33:31  <yawnot>i heard some people fixed the problem by removing devDependencies on deploy
22:33:55  <sberryman>interesting
22:33:57  <sberryman>trying...
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22:36:19  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: Hi, I can help you out
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22:36:51  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: what is your username, and which apps are you having issues with?
22:36:53  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: removing dev deps didnt help
22:36:57  <sberryman>sberryman / teeleader-api
22:37:23  <sberryman>an interesting note is that the snapshot doesnt show up on develop.nodejitsu.com
22:37:44  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/3746419
22:37:59  <sberryman>0.1.5 isn't in the snapshot list
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22:52:16  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: anything?
22:53:00  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: do you have the package.json up?
22:53:37  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: yeah, I looked at 3 computers. One is fixed, one says your script is taking too long to listen on a socket, the third we're still looking at
22:53:52  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: are you trying to do the socketstream build process on-server?
22:54:18  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/3746533
22:54:18  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: you really really really want to do that on your development machine and then ship the generated what-have-yous to the server
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22:54:42  <sberryman>you are looking at teeleader-app not teeleadet-api
22:54:53  <sberryman>and teeleader-app shouldn't be building on the server
22:55:16  <jesusabdullah>I see
22:55:51  <jesusabdullah>can you show me the package.json for teeleader-app as well?
22:55:59  <sberryman>i can try and deploy teeleader-api again if that helps
22:56:09  <jesusabdullah>yes, do that a few times
22:56:14  <jesusabdullah>so we can focus on just the one app
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22:56:33  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: teeleader-app package.json (https://gist.github.com/3746545)
22:56:48  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: deploying teeleader-api now
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22:57:26  <jesusabdullah>okay
22:59:00  <yawnot>also
22:59:05  <sberryman>you guys should timestamp each log output in jitsu :)
22:59:05  <yawnot>i'm going to sleep
22:59:09  <jesusabdullah>gnight yawnot
22:59:13  <yawnot>cya everyone
23:00:19  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: wtf, it actually deployed this time :)
23:00:39  <jesusabdullah>sweet
23:00:48  <sberryman>haha
23:00:56  <jesusabdullah>alright, I gotta get goin'
23:01:08  <sberryman>i tried at least 5 times and it failed with socket hang up each time
23:01:11  <sberryman>oh well
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23:10:09  <travismcelfresh>Help please… deploy issue: https://gist.github.com/3746574
23:11:57  <sberryman>travismcelfresh: looks like you are missing "moment" as a dependency
23:12:14  <travismcelfresh>oh no….
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23:12:25  <travismcelfresh>palm to forehead...
23:12:29  <travismcelfresh>thx
23:12:32  <travismcelfresh>need slepp
23:12:35  <travismcelfresh>sleep
23:12:38  <sberryman>ha
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23:12:57  <sberryman>great module by the way, i use moment quite a bit
23:13:21  <sberryman>actually use timezone more than moment now but moment is quite nice for displaying from time etc
23:13:35  <sberryman>timezone is (https://github.com/bigeasy/timezone)
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23:16:07  <travismcelfresh>cool… will go look at that....
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23:16:25  <travismcelfresh>thx again for the fresh set of eyes....
23:17:56  <sberryman>travismcelfresh: no problem
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23:24:17  <sberryman>AvianFlu blakmatrix coderarity jesusabdullah mmalecki[away]: redirect loop for https://develop.nodejitsu.com again
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23:25:17  <blakmatrix>sberryman: i must ave missed something...
23:25:33  <sberryman>it was doing it earlier today
23:25:43  <sberryman>works fine in curl but cant seem to load it up in chrome or firefox
23:26:15  <blakmatrix>loads fine for me
23:26:19  <sberryman>damn it
23:26:23  <blakmatrix>what was done earlier to fix it?
23:26:41  <sberryman>they didnt say
23:26:46  <sberryman>i wonder if it has to do with session timing out?
23:28:00  <sberryman>it worked when i cleared all the cookies in firefox
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23:28:54  <blakmatrix>we're looking into it, you dont happen to know what server you were hitting ?
23:29:30  <sberryman>how would i tell in chrome? it works fine in curl
23:29:53  <blakmatrix>in chrome look at the networ section under developer tools
23:30:24  <sberryman>dev tools dont work for that page as it didnt load :(
23:30:52  <sberryman>this is the chrome error: Error 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS): There were too many redirects.
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23:32:10  <sberryman>clearing all cookies since the beginning of time in chrome :)
23:32:25  <sberryman>shit
23:32:27  <sberryman>same problem
23:33:44  <sberryman>loaded fine in safari
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23:34:01  <sberryman>earlier today it wouldnt load in chrome or firefox, now it appears as just chrome is failing
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23:37:39  <sberryman>blakmatrix: it is working in chrome now
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23:39:08  <SeanA208>Hey, I'm having an issue with an initial deploy using Express and Nodejitsu
23:39:10  <SeanA208>https://gist.github.com/3746732
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23:44:40  <mikeal>hey
23:44:44  <mikeal>my app just went down
23:44:48  <mikeal>and theres nothing in the logs
23:45:20  <AvianFlu>which kind of down, and what's the url
23:45:55  <mikeal>nm
23:45:57  <mikeal>i see what i did
23:46:27  <mikeal>copies the package.json and used it in another app, changed everything except the damn name :)
23:47:12  <Sly>AvianFlu, https://github.com/flatiron/director/issues/134 < You can probably close that.
23:47:26  <AvianFlu>Sly: word, thanks
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23:47:43  <luis>Hi, I am running into some issues while trying to run jitsu deploy could you guys give me a hand?
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23:48:48  <luis>?
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23:50:10  <AvianFlu>luis: what kind of issues
23:50:26  <AvianFlu>you should copy your terminal output and paste it into gist.github.com or somewhere similar
23:50:26  <luis>I am getting a bunch of errors thrown, let me paste it here
23:50:29  <luis>ok
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23:51:42  <luis>@AvianFlu here: https://gist.github.com/3746785
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23:57:27  <Sly>mmalecki, <3
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23:58:11  <mmalecki>Sly: <3 !