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00:35:39  <harbhub>hey fellas
00:35:51  <Sly>Hey.
00:35:57  <harbhub>sup sly
00:36:02  <harbhub>hey quick question
00:36:07  <Sly>Trying to decide on what distro I want to reformat to.
00:36:17  <harbhub>how do you make it so that people cannot spam the user sign up?
00:36:24  <Sly>Think I might go with Fedora again. I've always liked Fedora. Just as long as it doesn't kernel panic like F15 did.
00:36:35  <harbhub>what do you mean by distro... just get a mac and be done with it ! :) you linux user hehe
00:36:40  <Sly>Use a CAPTCHA.
00:36:48  <harbhub>how?
00:36:56  <harbhub>i was thinking of making a drag/drop thingy
00:37:02  <Sly>http://recaptcha.com
00:37:03  <harbhub>to test that the person can drag/drop lol
00:37:21  <Sly>Actually, what you said is pretty ingenious.
00:37:25  <deoxxa>no
00:37:26  <deoxxa>nonono
00:37:28  <deoxxa>captcha is bad
00:37:33  <Sly>I know, deoxxa..
00:37:38  <Sly>But he asked how to stop spam.
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00:37:47  <Sly>I wouldn't make it ask every time. Maybe after x amount of posts in x amount of minuts.
00:37:49  <Sly>*minutes
00:38:07  <mmalecki>simple maths is better imo
00:38:17  <harbhub>yea
00:38:19  <deoxxa>no, that's just as bad
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00:38:23  <deoxxa>just verify their email
00:38:24  <harbhub>captcha is not going anywhere near my site
00:38:31  <harbhub>how do do that?
00:38:36  <harbhub>deoxxa that is what i want to do
00:38:39  <deoxxa>or, i dunno, maybe just don't stop them from signing up
00:38:41  <harbhub>but how with js and node?
00:38:49  <deoxxa>who cares if there's a bunch of silly accounts on your system
00:38:54  <harbhub>i care
00:38:57  <harbhub>i want real people
00:38:58  <mmalecki>deoxxa: why not maths?
00:39:12  <mmalecki>that's way better than recaptcha
00:39:25  <deoxxa>mmalecki: anything that makes signing up harder for a user is a horrible idea as far as user experience goes
00:39:37  <mmalecki>hm, right
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00:39:41  <harbhub>i have an idea
00:39:44  <deoxxa>you want as little in between a random person and a new user as possible
00:39:50  <harbhub>i'll use the same trick i did in a contact form
00:39:56  <harbhub>just put a hidden field
00:39:58  <harbhub>:)
00:40:09  <deoxxa>harbhub: just let them sign up, but don't make their account public until they verify their email or something
00:40:20  <mmalecki>^ this
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00:40:39  <harbhub>deoxxa How?
00:40:43  <deoxxa>use programming
00:40:45  <harbhub>how do i verify with email
00:40:46  <deoxxa>i don't know
00:40:50  <harbhub>lol
00:40:59  <deoxxa>send them an email with a token in it
00:41:08  <deoxxa>when the click the link with the token, they're verified
00:41:12  <deoxxa>*they
00:41:36  <deoxxa>if you want to go to extreme verification mode, require a tiny credit card transaction to unlock more features
00:41:39  <deoxxa>like a $1 charge or something
00:41:44  <deoxxa>one-time
00:41:59  <coderarity>i think you can charge it then invalidate it
00:42:02  <coderarity>lots of things do that
00:42:17  <deoxxa>yeah that would work too
00:42:32  <harbhub>ohhhhhhh
00:42:35  <deoxxa>but the main point here is "don't stop them from signing up and playing with the service"
00:42:49  <harbhub>deoxxa
00:42:51  <harbhub>i will do this
00:42:54  <deoxxa>only lock away as much as you have to to avoid degrading the experience for other users
00:42:55  <harbhub>they fill out the form
00:42:56  <mmalecki>TAP airlines charge $ 1, for unknown reason
00:42:58  <harbhub>username password email
00:43:00  <harbhub>simple enough
00:43:04  <harbhub>i send an email to their email
00:43:09  <harbhub>and inside it i put a uuid
00:43:13  <harbhub>that goes in the link
00:43:18  <harbhub>so that they can make a post request
00:43:18  <deoxxa>harbhub: bingo
00:43:21  <harbhub>by clicking the link
00:43:34  <deoxxa>harbhub: but don't stop them from logging in or whatever
00:43:47  <harbhub>and then i say "hey that link got clicked; i.e. i got a post request to the url that only they could have"
00:44:04  <harbhub>so then i say 'mongodb save their info in the collection'
00:44:08  <harbhub>doneeeeeee!
00:44:09  <deoxxa>harbhub: let them log in and play with the service, only require validation to unlock things that might degrade the experience for other users if left unchecked
00:44:18  <harbhub>ok
00:44:23  <deoxxa>i.e. public posting, friend requests, etc
00:44:25  <harbhub>and i wil also have a pre-emptive spam blocker
00:44:25  <deoxxa>stuff like that
00:44:28  <harbhub>a simple hidden field
00:44:32  <harbhub>that a spam bot might fill in
00:44:34  <harbhub>but a human wouldnt
00:44:48  <deoxxa>i think you want that to be the other way ;)
00:44:58  <harbhub>hmm?
00:46:00  <harbhub>deoxxa: how do i make the server handle the post request, though?
00:46:14  <harbhub>for instance, i would need the server to magically listen for a request on the uuid that i send
00:46:16  <harbhub>o.0
00:46:24  <harbhub>hmmm
00:46:29  <harbhub>i could
00:46:32  <harbhub>hash the email
00:46:40  <harbhub>then use that hashed email as the url
00:46:46  <harbhub>that way i can check for it
00:46:49  <harbhub>that might work
00:47:15  <deoxxa>no man
00:47:20  <deoxxa>just add their account
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00:47:23  <deoxxa>without verification
00:47:27  <deoxxa>mark it as unverified
00:47:38  <deoxxa>stop them from doing things that might impact other users until they're verified
00:48:54  <deoxxa>you *do not* want to make it harder for people to sign up and start using your service
00:49:03  <harbhub>i understand
00:49:07  <harbhub>but
00:49:12  <harbhub>that means in the db
00:49:16  <deoxxa>who cares!
00:49:18  <harbhub>i need a key called verified
00:49:23  <deoxxa>oh
00:49:24  <deoxxa>well yes
00:49:31  <harbhub>with values or yes and no and pending
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00:49:39  <deoxxa>or maybe verified_at
00:49:42  <deoxxa>set it to null on signup
00:49:43  <harbhub>huh
00:49:55  <deoxxa>set it to the current time when they verify
00:49:55  <harbhub>why verified_at
00:49:58  <mmalecki>we have status: "active", "new" or "pending"
00:49:59  <harbhub>oh
00:50:11  <deoxxa>then you can get metrics like "how long do users take to verify their accounts"
00:50:13  <harbhub>mmalecki: am i active?
00:50:25  <harbhub>cool, deoxxa
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00:50:28  <harbhub>i like that point
00:50:32  <mmalecki>harbhub: if you confirmed your account, you are
00:50:38  <deoxxa>mmalecki: what's the difference between pending and new?
00:50:38  <harbhub>sweet
00:51:15  <mmalecki>deoxxa: oh, "pending" isn't used anymore
00:51:19  <deoxxa>ah
00:51:26  <mmalecki>but back in the day you needed to be confirmed by a superuser
00:52:52  <deoxxa>i like to imagine superusers can fly
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00:56:09  <AvianFlu>deoxxa: ++
00:56:09  <kohai>deoxxa has 7 beers
00:56:24  <AvianFlu>deoxxa: we do, indeed, have capes
00:56:32  <deoxxa>nice!
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01:09:26  <coderarity>Sly, did arch linux not work/
01:09:28  <coderarity>?*
01:09:42  <Sly>Uh.. I don't have the patience to go through installing Arch from scratch as my host system.
01:09:47  <Sly>xD
01:10:32  <Sly>It's either Fedora, or Linux Mint.
01:10:49  <coderarity>it only took me like 3 days :P
01:11:02  <Sly>Exactly. 3 days is 3 days too long.
01:11:08  <coderarity>i don't really like ubuntu based systems
01:11:20  <coderarity>i prefer to not have non-open source stuff
01:11:34  <Sly>Uh.. Ubuntu isn't open source? O_o
01:11:41  <coderarity>it is
01:11:49  <coderarity>some of the stuff it installs isn't though
01:11:54  <Sly>Like?
01:12:01  <coderarity>drivers, mostly
01:12:12  <coderarity>some drivers are proprietary and it will try to install them
01:12:15  <Sly>That's not Ubuntu's fault. That's the package maintainer's fault.
01:12:38  <Sly>That's just like when I install Fedora, it always used to ask me whether I wanted to use the closed or open sourced B43 driver.
01:13:16  <Sly>I actually tend to go with the proprietary drivers, if they're maintained by the manufacturer.
01:13:32  <Sly>If it's not maintained by the manufacturer, I don't trust it to be installed with escalated privileges on my system.
01:13:37  <Sly>If I can't see the source, it doesn't get added.
01:13:39  <coderarity>in my case, my laptop didn't need any proprietary drivers
01:13:55  <coderarity>(which is why I have it)
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01:14:13  <Sly>Mine didn't need any proprietary drivers on Ubuntu..
01:14:22  <Sly>But Fedora has always asked me for it, since Fedora 5 through 15..
01:14:40  <Sly>I stopped using it at 15 because it kernel panicked when I tried to boot from the live DVD.
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01:14:49  <Sly>Even kernel panicked in a virtual machine.
01:14:50  <coderarity>Sly, hmm, their website says 100% open source
01:14:52  <coderarity>whatevs
01:15:01  <Sly>Who, Fedora?
01:15:08  <coderarity>yes
01:15:16  <Sly>Well, Fedora's source *is* 100% open source.
01:15:22  <Sly>It's the proprietary driver that isn't open source.
01:15:28  <Sly>And that's just because of the maintainer, usually the manufacturer.
01:15:48  <Sly>That's just like.. anyone could make a package on Linux closed sourced, if they wanted to. It's just standard that people leave sources open, so they can be expanded on.
01:15:55  <st_luke>if you're concerned about using non-free components then don't use RHEL based OSs
01:15:57  <Sly>*close sourced
01:16:13  <coderarity>st_luke, yeah, I use arch linux
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01:16:52  <Sly>I don't mind them. They're usually the most stable drivers when they're proprietary and from the manufacturer.
01:16:52  <coderarity>Sly, yeah, but some repositories don't allow non-open source stuff
01:17:19  <st_luke>debian doesn't install non-free components without enabling it in your apt sources
01:17:36  <Sly>^
01:17:40  <Sly>Which is why Ubuntu doesn't ask me.
01:17:47  <Sly>Same reason why Linux Mint won't ask me.
01:17:57  <coderarity>linux mint asked me last time i installed it from a live cd
01:18:24  <Sly>Well, LM13 is based on Precise.
01:18:27  <Sly>I never got asked on Precise.
01:18:36  <Sly>It was default in the kernel, I guess? I never see updates for a driver for it.
01:18:37  <coderarity>Sly, ubuntu doesn't use systemd does it?
01:18:42  <coderarity>i'm pretty sure fedora is using systemd
01:18:46  <coderarity>i think ubuntu has their own thing going
01:18:51  <Sly>Hm. I haven't checked systemd for it.
01:19:16  <coderarity>yeah ubuntu uses this: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
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01:20:50  <Sly>upstart just uses `service`.
01:21:12  <Sly>And I don't see any B43 drivers in `service`.
01:21:41  <Sly>I was reading about the B43 bug in LM13, and someone was mentioning the kernel. So, I don't know. Maybe B43 support is finally in the kernel?
01:22:06  <Sly>Haven't had a need to look into it, since it's been working fine.
01:22:58  <garrettwilkin>Hello
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01:24:02  <coderarity>Sly, i think it's in the kernel
01:24:06  <garrettwilkin>i just got to the point that I have two node processes running, in what used to be a one process app
01:24:07  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, hi
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01:24:46  <garrettwilkin>coderarity: can I run multiple processes in jitsu?
01:24:48  <coderarity>if you're really sure. you can start two processes in the same app, just use child processes
01:25:00  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, but it might slow stuff down, you only have 1 core
01:25:08  <garrettwilkin>oooh
01:25:22  <coderarity>it's better to only do 1 process per drone
01:25:24  <garrettwilkin>well i did it more for logical clarity
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01:25:43  <garrettwilkin>i have a web page, that's using an HTTP API
01:25:56  <garrettwilkin>so before all the code was in one file, one process
01:26:19  <garrettwilkin>now i split it into two, so that i have one server handling socket.io, and the other is handling the HTTP API
01:26:41  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, that'd require listening on two ports
01:26:47  <garrettwilkin>is that okay?
01:26:50  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, you should keep them in one process
01:26:52  <garrettwilkin>that's what I'm doing
01:27:09  <coderarity>or you might be able to do funny stuff to put them in to two processes, but it's not really worth it
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01:27:16  <garrettwilkin>bah okay
01:27:29  <coderarity>(you can pass handles to child processes in node 0.8 iirc)
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01:27:56  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, you could put them in separate files
01:28:06  <coderarity>that might help you split stuff up
01:28:09  <coderarity>and log to different places
01:28:23  <coderarity>(if you're using something like loggly or winstond)
01:28:25  <garrettwilkin>so… require my api server?
01:28:32  <coderarity>yep
01:28:39  <garrettwilkin>I'm using winston with loggly
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01:28:48  <coderarity>sure
01:29:05  <coderarity>you could create two loggers, one for each part of the app
01:29:10  <coderarity>to kinda split up that information
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01:29:33  <garrettwilkin>yea, i already have that somewhat, based on whats in the logs
01:30:01  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, yeah, that type of stuff is a better solution than two processes
01:30:10  <coderarity>but I think you could probably do it for experimentation :D
01:30:30  <coderarity>node 0.8 ftw
01:30:53  <coderarity>man I love the new child process stuff
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01:31:39  <garrettwilkin>it just feels weird to proceed with the logic for both aspects, handling the client interaction and the API requests, in the same process now...
01:31:53  <garrettwilkin>i already mentally adapted to the new layout… so i'll have to think this over
01:32:12  <garrettwilkin>coderarity: i haven't' done much with child processes yet
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01:36:18  <garrettwilkin>coderarity: so both the "main" server (which does static file serving & socket.io events) and the API server are flatiron apps.
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01:36:41  <coderarity>that's fine, but they've got to listen to the same server
01:36:55  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, use broadway for the socket.io stuff
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01:37:14  <Sly>coderarity, I think it's in the kernel too.. because they were testing different kernel versions in the Ubuntu bug comments.
01:37:15  <coderarity>garrettwilkin, and then normal flatiron for http stuff
01:37:23  <Sly>It's apparently a regression from 3.1.0 to 3.2.x
01:37:36  <Sly>But Ubuntu has pushed a fix out for it. Just not sure if it's hit LM yet.
01:38:00  <coderarity>the kernel's already at 3.5
01:38:04  <coderarity>man, how time flies
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01:39:01  <Sly>ikr?
01:39:11  <garrettwilkin>coderarity: hmm broadway. I'm checking that out.
01:39:30  <Sly>You know when you always said you wanted to grow up when you were younger, and everyone said you would wish you hadn't said that?
01:39:41  <Sly>Yeah. Totally putting my foot in my mouth.
01:40:12  <garrettwilkin>coderarity: this is way more complex than two files… or at least, way different from the way i imagined doing it :)
01:40:31  <garrettwilkin>but it seems like technically, it should be OK since node is designed to handle lots of IO
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01:41:03  <coderarity>Sly, nah high school sucked this is way better
01:41:14  <Sly>True, but I still wish I had the energy that I used to have..
01:41:17  <Sly>And my back didn't hurt..
01:41:24  <Sly>xD
01:41:34  <Sly>I'll be back later, though. Going to let LM download and go to a friend's house.
01:41:34  <coderarity>Sly, that's what caffeine is for
01:41:34  <Sly>:)
01:41:46  <Sly>Oh, I drink so much caffeine.. I'm probably immune to it by now.
01:41:54  <coderarity>yeah i think that too, lol
01:42:02  <Sly>bbl. :P
01:42:06  <coderarity>c ya
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02:18:03  <cmarcelly>hello
02:18:17  <cmarcelly>i need support please
02:18:52  <cmarcelly>i'm programming an app hosted by nodejitsu
02:19:10  <cmarcelly>using Socket.io
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02:19:45  <cmarcelly>i get this message in my browser : Welcome to socket.io
02:20:15  <cmarcelly>my app worked well on my localhost
02:20:41  <AvianFlu>"welcome to socket.io" is the default hello world socket.io app
02:20:45  <AvianFlu>what are you expecting to see instead
02:21:08  <cmarcelly>i must see a jQuery slider
02:21:34  <AvianFlu>what commands did you run to get to this point
02:21:38  <cmarcelly>i give you my depencies with socket.io :
02:21:44  <cmarcelly><script src="http://joyeusesfetes.jit.su:80/socket.io/socket.io.js"></script>
02:21:49  <AvianFlu>please use a paste service
02:21:55  <cmarcelly>var socket = io.connect("http://joyeusesfetes.jit.su:80");
02:22:34  <cmarcelly>What is a paste service please ?
02:22:44  <AvianFlu>gist.github.com
02:22:50  <AvianFlu>paste whatever you want to show me into that
02:22:52  <AvianFlu>then paste me the link
02:22:56  <AvianFlu>instead of pasting stuff into the channel
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02:24:47  <cmarcelly>ok
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02:25:37  <cmarcelly>https://gist.github.com/747f975437bbb5e0c9ab
02:25:49  <cmarcelly>this is the server script
02:26:34  <cmarcelly>https://gist.github.com/3773875
02:26:40  <cmarcelly>the client script
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02:26:59  <cmarcelly>So i get Welcome to socket.io message...
02:29:10  <AvianFlu>cmarcelly: disable all the flash stuff in the server
02:29:12  <AvianFlu>it won't work
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03:10:11  <tinx>how do you destroy a object and all it's listeners?
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03:16:58  <AvianFlu>obj.removeAllListeners()
03:17:02  <AvianFlu>delete obj
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03:21:07  <Sly>Actually.. I forgot. Can't boot LM from USB.
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03:22:25  <Sly>Actually.. Hm.. Maybe it does.
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03:22:38  <Sly>I read somewhere earlier that it doesn't, but the release notes don't say anything about it.
03:22:46  <Sly>Time to test, I suppose.
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03:30:30  <val_litvak>hello
03:31:01  <tinx>thx AvianFlu
03:31:02  <val_litvak>i just had a question, i dont seem to find it on the site,
03:31:31  <val_litvak>if i got a micro plan, would i still be able to get ssl
03:31:36  <val_litvak>if i paid ?
03:31:52  <AvianFlu>ssl for your subdomain is free
03:32:06  <AvianFlu>custom ssl certs we may eventually charge a fee for
03:34:41  <val_litvak>oh ok,
03:34:54  <val_litvak>so at this point you guys are not sure how much ssl will cost for custom domains?
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03:38:02  <AvianFlu>it hasn't been decided on yet, but it will be small, if anything
03:38:24  <AvianFlu>a one-time fee of a few dollars or something, if that
03:38:41  <AvianFlu>if people want them now, we just add them, since billing isn't live yet
03:39:12  <val_litvak>oh ok
03:39:42  <val_litvak>thanks AvianFlu
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03:58:28  <val_litvak>i am trying to deploy my first app, and im getting this error: Error: package.json error: can't find starting script: node app
03:58:38  <val_litvak>but i have app.js in my folder
03:58:49  <val_litvak>sorry i am new to this
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04:02:07  <chilts>val_litvak: http://package.json.jit.su/
04:02:09  <val_litvak>nvm, i needed to put app.js instead of just app
04:02:11  <chilts>see the scripts section?
04:02:24  <val_litvak>yeah
04:02:27  <val_litvak>i looked at it just now
04:02:31  <chilts>ah ok, you can also specify it with the start :)
04:02:33  <chilts>ok cool
04:02:36  <chilts>you're onto it
04:02:38  <val_litvak>:)
04:02:40  <val_litvak>thanks
04:02:43  <chilts>np
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04:34:41  <nathan7>nathan goes on a bus trip -> nathan brings 477 git repos along (substack's, nodejitsu's, caolah's, jesusabdullah's including hoarders) and all their deps
04:34:52  <nathan7>oh and all of flatiron
04:35:23  <deoxxa>nathan7: better version - replicate NPM onto your laptop!
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04:38:40  <AvianFlu>at nodeconf summercamp the year before last, there was a locally-hosted npm registry because the net went down
04:38:43  <AvianFlu>'twas leet
04:39:32  <deoxxa>ha
04:40:19  <substack>replicateion, couchdb's only feature
04:40:27  <AvianFlu>hahahahhahaaha
04:42:14  <substack>mikeal's words not mine
04:46:55  <st_luke>hah
04:47:03  <sberryman>any redis guys in here?
04:47:30  * st_lukethinks he should book a hotel in portugal
04:47:56  <st_luke>part of me wants to just get off the airplane without any definite plans
04:48:07  <st_luke>maybe forget to get on the return flight
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04:52:38  <AvianFlu>st_luke: sleep on a park bench. experience waking up sore, with all your stuff covered in condensation. it builds character.
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04:53:25  <st_luke>AvianFlu: that's an unsettlingly detailed description
04:54:47  <AvianFlu>I'm quite good at those
04:55:06  <AvianFlu>you could also do the more civilized version
04:55:14  <AvianFlu>and sleep on chairs in other people's hotel rooms
04:55:23  <AvianFlu>like I did at jsconf in arizona this past year
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04:55:38  <AvianFlu>quite successful, if non-ideal
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05:05:59  <harbhub>hey fellas
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05:31:04  <jesusabdullah>I'd be down for a park bench except for
05:31:06  <jesusabdullah>other hobos
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05:45:42  <substack>st_luke: just bum around
05:45:47  <substack>best way
05:46:23  <substack>also hobo protip: sleep in the daytime, keep your wits about you at night
05:46:33  <st_luke>yeah, good idea
05:46:45  <st_luke>gotta stop spending so much money on hotels
05:46:53  <st_luke>especially if I'm going to try a new city next year again
05:47:13  <substack>some not-very scruffy person taking a nap on the grass in the daytime? totally common and expected and there are people around so your stuff is less likely to be stolen
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05:55:08  <st_luke>if I ever have a linkedin, someone please put a bullet in my head
05:56:31  <ljharb>yeah it'd suck to get recruited for jobs all the time
05:57:10  <substack>ljharb: you don't need a linkedin for that
05:57:21  <ljharb>nope, but it doesn't hurt
05:57:25  <substack>oh man I made a linkedin and I don't even know what it's supposed to be for
05:58:16  <st_luke>ljharb: I already get tons of recruiter emails. recruiters are like lonely guys on a dating website sadly.
05:58:18  <substack>just seemed like a lot of clutter, I didn't get it
05:58:25  <substack>haha recruiters
05:58:29  <substack>they so silly
05:58:31  <ljharb>lol true
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05:59:47  <st_luke>the only recruiters I take seriously anymore are ones that are direct employees of the company they're recruiting on behalf of, and that's even a stretch.
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07:06:37  <nathan7>deoxxa: I could've
07:06:44  <nathan7>deoxxa: but this was fun code to write
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10:19:13  <dmitri>hi, guys
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10:19:59  <dmitri>i wonder who use jitsu with socket.io, how's your app performance?
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10:40:47  <dmitri>btw is there a possibility for jitsu to deploy via git?
10:40:58  <jetienne>dmitri: nope (unfortunatly)
10:41:09  <dmitri>:(
10:45:12  <yawnt>o/
10:48:21  <coderarity>dmitri, that nowjs thing had like several hundred concurrent websocket connections
10:48:25  <coderarity>wait
10:48:26  <coderarity>i mean
10:48:28  <coderarity>now.jit.su
10:48:50  <yawnt>now 's a pretty cool piece of sw
10:55:03  * deoxxalooks in
10:55:48  <yawnt>deoxxa: i need a toast machine
10:55:53  <yawnt>:(
10:55:57  <deoxxa>that's often called a toaster
10:56:06  <yawnt>yeah
10:56:07  <yawnt>that
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10:56:08  <deoxxa>they're available at most department stores
10:56:17  <yawnt>sorry.. i'm sleepy
10:56:19  <yawnt>:(
10:56:22  <deoxxa>then you, too, can enjoy delicious toast
10:56:25  <deoxxa>at any time of day or night
10:56:29  <yawnt>:O
10:56:31  <yawnt>really?
10:56:34  <deoxxa>not really
10:56:37  <yawnt>oh
10:56:39  <yawnt>:(
10:56:40  <deoxxa>it's illegal to make toast after 10pm
10:56:44  <deoxxa>sry
10:56:48  <yawnt>fuck the police
10:56:54  <deoxxa>livin' on the edge
10:56:58  <yawnt>i'll make the toast at 10.01
10:57:01  <deoxxa>haha
10:57:07  <yawnt>then turn my clock back 2 minutes
10:57:14  <yawnt>pretending i didnt know
10:57:16  <deoxxa>ohhhh burn
10:57:20  <deoxxa>(get it)
10:57:21  <deoxxa>(burn)
10:57:24  <yawnt>yes
10:57:24  <deoxxa>(like toast)
10:57:26  <yawnt>i do
10:57:28  <yawnt>thanks
10:57:29  <deoxxa>(it's a pun)
10:57:31  <yawnt>enough.
10:57:44  <deoxxa>:<
10:57:48  <yawnt>:>
10:57:54  <deoxxa>:<:
10:58:02  <yawnt>:|
10:58:06  <yawnt>what's at?
10:58:09  <yawnt>*'at
10:58:15  <deoxxa>uncomfortable, by the looks of things
10:58:22  <deoxxa>at least for the dude on the left
10:58:26  <yawnt>of course
10:58:28  <deoxxa>guy on the right looks pretty pleased
10:58:33  <yawnt>lol
10:58:56  <deoxxa>so we finally hit the point at work where we can no longer function without a management interface
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10:59:13  <deoxxa>it's pretty not-fun
10:59:15  <yawnt>deoxxa: jetienne wanted to have paid trips too
10:59:26  <yawnt>he can be your management interface
10:59:27  <deoxxa>ha
10:59:28  <yawnt>hire him
10:59:44  <yawnt>he doesnt get drunk, he's responsable
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11:00:10  <jetienne>I'm manager
11:00:14  <yawnt>*ible
11:00:15  <deoxxa>oh that just won't do
11:00:17  <jetienne>i can talk to them
11:00:24  <deoxxa>you can't be responsible
11:00:35  * deoxxashakes head
11:00:47  <jetienne>mmalecki will vouch for my responsible side :)
11:00:52  * yawntthrows raw fish at deoxxa
11:00:55  <mmalecki>obviously.
11:00:57  <yawnt>(get it?)
11:01:04  <yawnt>(minecrat.. ocelot)
11:01:16  <mmalecki>coderarity: how long are you going to stay up?
11:01:17  * deoxxabecomes a cat
11:01:21  <yawnt>:>
11:01:23  <mmalecki>I have a bank to visit and people to yell at
11:01:24  <coderarity>mmalecki, i just woke up
11:01:27  <yawnt>i can control you now
11:01:32  <mmalecki>coderarity: awesome
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11:01:35  <deoxxa>dude i'm a cat now
11:01:39  <deoxxa>nothing can control me
11:01:44  <deoxxa>brb sitting on alllll your newspapers
11:01:49  <mmalecki>also, how come you live in GMT+5?
11:01:55  <yawnt>deoxxa: funny fact is
11:02:09  <yawnt>i'm in a room full of newspapers atm
11:02:12  <deoxxa>lol
11:02:13  <yawnt>library
11:02:17  <deoxxa>perfect
11:02:27  <yawnt>books n newspapers everywhere
11:02:54  <deoxxa>http://i.imgur.com/MaAGO.jpg
11:03:12  <yawnt>lol
11:03:19  <deoxxa>there's a cat macro for every occasion
11:03:24  <yawnt>i'm actually laughing irl right now
11:03:40  <yawnt>which isn't appropriate.. being myself in a library
11:03:42  <yawnt>:(
11:03:46  <deoxxa>rofl
11:04:29  <deoxxa>http://i.imgur.com/NHZRo.jpg excuse me wtf r u doin
11:04:36  <yawnt>who's doing node knockout here?
11:05:00  <yawnt>btw best cat evah is maru
11:05:11  <yawnt>no one can beat him.. maru :3
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11:06:07  <deoxxa>:3
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11:08:23  <yawnt>http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8p6j27OKn1r4rp3ko2_250.gif
11:08:30  <yawnt>gif to the rescie
11:08:34  <yawnt>*rescue
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11:13:30  <`3rdEden>jetienne: you can just add `jitsu deploy` as your git hook to have git deployments ^_^
11:14:09  <jetienne>`3rdEden: yeah but i got model/texture, and i feel any upload pretty heavily :)
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11:15:03  <`3rdEden>jetienne: ah, you only want it to send the diffs instead of a tarbal
11:16:10  <jetienne>`3rdEden: it would be cool indeed. but i got a workaround
11:16:33  <jetienne>`3rdEden: i do only the web socket server on jit.su and host the apps elsewhere
11:17:03  <`3rdEden>jetienne: you can also just add those files to a npmignore
11:17:12  <`3rdEden>so they won't be packed
11:17:29  <`3rdEden>and just host it on a CDN, which is probably where you want to have your models and textures anyways
11:17:51  <jetienne>`3rdEden: indeed :)
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12:04:06  <joemccann>yo anyone around for a custom domain name question?
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12:09:04  <dmitri>joemccann: http://dns.jit.su/
12:09:09  <dmitri>joemccann: try this
12:09:10  <joemccann>dmitri
12:09:13  <joemccann>i saw that
12:09:19  <joemccann>have used it for http://photopi.pe
12:09:20  <joemccann>but
12:09:25  <coderarity>joemccann, hi
12:09:26  <joemccann>for .io tld
12:09:32  <joemccann>i have to use
12:09:36  <joemccann>http://nic.io
12:09:42  <joemccann>they have no place for setting/change A records
12:10:13  <dmitri>ask their customer service
12:10:21  <joemccann>https://dl.dropbox.com/u/409429/photos/io-tld.png
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12:10:27  <dmitri>it should be such possibility
12:11:23  <coderarity>joemccann, I see, they probably may not host DNS servers. you're might have to check out something like http://aws.amazon.com/route53/
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12:12:21  <yawnt>hello
12:12:25  <joemccann>damn, really?
12:12:26  <coderarity>that was the worst english i have ever typed :\
12:12:41  <coderarity>joemccann, yeah, it's like that for a lot of tld's like that
12:12:47  <joemccann>never used route53
12:12:49  <joemccann>how does it work?
12:13:34  <coderarity>idk, like normal DNS stuff? you set up a zone and it gets it out tehre
12:14:03  <joemccann>and then i can modify the A record for the jit.su stuff, right?
12:14:15  <coderarity>joemccann, yeah. maybe this too, it says it's free http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/public/dns/
12:15:08  <joemccann>ahh wicked
12:16:39  <joemccann>also, real quick
12:16:46  <joemccann>if i run locally the command
12:16:58  <joemccann>NODE_ENV=production node app.js
12:17:07  <joemccann>how can i emulate this on jitsu?
12:17:08  <joemccann>meaning
12:17:13  <joemccann>when I type "jitsu deploy"
12:17:18  <joemccann>how can i deploy it
12:17:29  <joemccann>with the proper NODE_ENV=production flag?
12:18:48  <nathan7>jitsu env set NODE_ENV production
12:19:03  <joemccann>perfect
12:19:05  <joemccann>too easy
12:19:06  <joemccann>thx
12:22:11  <coderarity>joemccann, it does it automatically
12:22:20  <joemccann>does what?
12:22:23  <coderarity>joemccann, you don't have to do anything, it's already got NODE_ENV=production
12:22:29  <joemccann>ahh cool
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13:18:34  <diorahman>I'm looking for celery-like implementation on node.js. Any suggestions? :-)
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13:27:02  <coderarity>there's this job manager in flatiron, https://github.com/flatiron/neuron
13:27:17  <coderarity>i haven't heard of celery before, so i wouldn't know much about it
13:28:29  <diorahman>Celery is a tool for working with a message queue to perform tasks asynchronously with respect to HTTP requests
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13:32:38  <diorahman>https://github.com/flatiron/neuron looks pretty solid :-)
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15:41:28  <nqadail>anyone know if there is a way to obtain remote ip address in node via https through stunnel or pound (or something else) *without* using development versions of node, pound, stunnel or nginx *currently*?
15:41:55  <nqadail>or is this only possible with newer versions
15:42:28  <coderarity>wow
15:42:57  <nqadail>wow?
15:43:05  <coderarity>i have no idea, maybe try #node.js ?
15:43:27  <coderarity>it's quite a question you got there :P
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16:05:42  <sberryman>mmalecki: you around?
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16:06:40  <mmalecki>sberryman: I indeed happen to be around, sir. how's this pleasant Monday treating you?
16:06:53  <sberryman>foggy
16:07:14  <sberryman>mentally and actually physically foggy outside
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16:07:44  <sberryman>i've been thinking more about my issues related to MongoDB and the idle connection
16:07:57  <sberryman>i found out this weekend i have the exact same problem with idle redis connections
16:08:12  <mmalecki>it's even foggy in my room!
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16:08:16  <mmalecki>that's interesting
16:08:20  <mmalecki>how often does that happen
16:08:22  <mmalecki>?
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16:08:34  <sberryman>mongodb it appears to be ~20 minutes
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16:09:21  <sberryman>https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/commit/f75f560f91a60730d1cdda63b671b5f5168cda4e#commitcomment-1891056
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16:09:41  <sberryman>according to that comment it should be ~10 minutes
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16:10:06  <sberryman>i got around the mongodb issue by simply querying the DB every minute
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16:16:33  <sberryman>very interesting... (http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Troubleshooting) "The default Linux keepalive time is 7200 seconds" and on here (https://gist.github.com/3763487) you can see most of the connections die around the 7200 second mark
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16:22:01  <mdedetrich>sberryman: the most annoying thing about mongodb
16:22:10  <mdedetrich>sberryman: is due to its extreme and arguably bad design
16:22:20  <mdedetrich>sberryman: its a massive pain in the ass database to administer
16:22:26  <mdedetrich>sberryman: as a sysadmin
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16:23:07  <sberryman>mdedetrich: ha, i'm not trying to get into which database to use discussion
16:23:26  <sberryman>mmalecki: ndd /dev/tcp tcp_keepalive_interval = 7200000 on my mongodb server
16:23:53  <sberryman>mdedetrich: and isnt issue isnt really mongodb related. i have the same problem on redis
16:24:06  <sberryman>the issue is idle connections
16:25:40  <mdedetrich>yup, I would also argue that redid isn't really a true database
16:25:51  <mdedetrich>or its often not used as one (its often a memory store for session)
16:26:27  <sberryman>which is what i'm using it for... as well as pub/sub
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16:27:06  <mdedetrich>I'm a lazy bastard, and just used redistogo
16:27:34  <sberryman>have you had any issue with long running idle connections on nodejitsu?
16:27:41  <sberryman>issues*
16:29:13  <sberryman>mmalecki: i just changed tcp_keepalive_interval to 300000 (5 minutes)
16:29:24  <mdedetrich>nodejitsu is a PaaS
16:29:29  <mdedetrich>so i have no clue what it does
16:29:30  <mmalecki>sberryman: no, we never did
16:29:39  <mdedetrich>but, I have never had any problems
16:30:02  <mmalecki>we in fact utilize long-standing connections in our infrastructure
16:30:47  <sberryman>what is tcp_keepalive_interval set to on the drones?
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16:40:58  <sberryman>is loggly laggin again?
16:41:27  <mmalecki>sberryman: no idea on the first question, I can check in a while
16:41:28  <blakmatrix>probably
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16:47:07  <blakmatrix>sberryman: where do you find tcp_keepalive_interval , thats just an env variable right?
16:47:32  <sberryman>no, on solaris you just run "ndd /dev/tcp tcp_keepalive_interval"
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16:50:30  <blakmatrix>same as your server 7200000
16:50:58  <sberryman>good, so the default value
16:51:07  <sberryman>i changed the value on my server to see if it makes a difference
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16:57:50  <Guest24435>hey all
16:57:56  <coderarity>hi
16:58:27  <Guest24435>i'm noticing that my app logs don't seem to be updating as I'm testing things out this morning
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17:00:43  <coderarity>Guest24435, that's normal, we got throttled by loggly
17:00:58  <coderarity>Guest24435, a fix is coming in a few weeks
17:01:27  <Guest24435>ah ok.
17:01:29  <st_luke>wow loggly sucks even more
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17:11:43  <st_luke>oh fuck
17:12:33  <blakmatrix>?
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17:14:04  <Guest24435>in package.json, the "scripts" / "predeploy" option - is there a restriction on which commands i can run? the documentation says it's a jitsu hook?
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17:34:07  <Nodejitsu-Github>[node-http-proxy] mmalecki created refactor (+1 new commit): http://git.io/RyAOaQ
17:34:07  <Nodejitsu-Github>[node-http-proxy/refactor] [refactor] `s/node-http-proxy/http-proxy` - Maciej Małecki
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17:35:37  <mmalecki>cause ffs
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17:35:38  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] nodejitsu/node-http-proxy#31 (refactor - 3abac2b : Maciej Małecki): The build passed.
17:35:38  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/commit/3abac2ba775f
17:35:38  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/builds/2548115
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17:36:36  <sberryman>interesting... those irc bots join the channel, speak and then leave
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17:36:40  <sberryman>didn't they used to lurk?
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17:37:00  <mmalecki>travis and github never did
17:37:05  <mmalecki>CIA does lurk
17:37:12  <sberryman>ha
17:37:35  <sberryman>and your bot kohai seems to be pretty quiet these days
17:37:59  <AvianFlu>what a shame, I never rigged that regex to fire in reverse
17:38:02  <mmalecki>until we can find someone who can make it not suck :)
17:38:06  <AvianFlu>kohai doesn't usually like being called a bot
17:38:06  <kohai>'Bot' is a derogatory term, and I'm offended.
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17:38:39  <sberryman>lol
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17:39:51  <sberryman>maybe something like "kohai, can you wake up mmalecki please" and then some big ass alarm will sound on your computer, and it will then send text messages and call non-stop until you pick up the phone
17:40:11  <mmalecki>sberryman: yeah, I actually want that
17:40:15  <mmalecki>for employees only tho
17:40:32  <sberryman>easy twilio integration
17:42:24  <sberryman>and or let you txt back and the txt reply will be relayed back to whoever was trying to wake you up
17:43:01  <mmalecki>yeah
17:43:05  <mmalecki>MOAR FEATURES
17:43:16  <mdedetrich>I have actually
17:43:21  <mdedetrich>slept through anything
17:43:25  <mdedetrich>if I am tired enough
17:43:30  <mdedetrich>including being punched in the face
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17:44:23  <sberryman>"kohai: please slap mdedetrich in the face repeatedly with a big black dildo until he wakes up"
17:44:23  <kohai>I am Kohai, semi-useful communications-facilitating pseudointelligence!
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17:44:48  <sberryman>apparently doesn't quite understand that command yet
17:45:06  <Sly>It should.
17:45:13  <mdedetrich>well you have to teach him how to slap people with black dildos first
17:45:13  <Sly>I would use it on mmalecki, for the win. Since <3
17:46:42  <jeffrg>anyone noticing connection errors with iris couch?
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17:47:29  <sberryman>Sly: haha, are you going to teach kohai how to do it?
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17:47:52  <Sly>If I knew how, of course.
17:47:53  <Sly>Why not?
17:48:01  <Sly>Looking at the source right now. :x
17:49:46  <sberryman>hmm, firefox uses a TON of cpu when looking at develop.nodejitsu.com
17:49:52  <sberryman>is that new dashboard done yet?
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17:53:16  <jetienne>if i got an existing applications, can i just do 'jitsu deploy' ? or do i need to do something else before ?
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17:53:34  <mmalecki>just `jitsu deploy` is enough
17:53:45  <mmalecki>jetienne: btw, you guys should put ongamestart.us on nodejitsu
17:54:29  <jetienne>mmalecki: ok
17:54:39  <jetienne>https://github.com/jeromeetienne/ongamestart.us/issues <- fill an issue here :)
17:54:45  <jetienne>github is my new mailbox :)
17:55:02  <mmalecki>heh, I'll talk to Michał I guess :)
17:55:25  <coderarity>sberryman, no
17:55:41  <jetienne>mmalecki: he would receive the email :)
17:56:42  <mmalecki>ah, correct
18:03:09  <jetienne>mmalecki: deployed apps are all on port 80 ?
18:03:48  <jetienne>mmalecki: during dev i use port like 4000 or 8000, how can i handle this seamlessly ? currently i change the value by hand before ethe deploy… rather error prone
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18:04:26  <mmalecki>it is handled seemlessly for you
18:04:31  <mmalecki>*seamlessly
18:04:39  <mmalecki>whatever you listen on, ends up on 80
18:05:40  <jetienne>oh ok cool
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18:07:03  <dscape>mmalecki: damn irccloud
18:07:06  <dscape>heya!
18:07:49  <mmalecki>dscape: damn wedding! :D
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18:10:57  <jetienne>q. how can i know which version of npm packages is installed on my deployed app ?
18:11:30  <blakmatrix>jetienne: do you not set them explicitly?
18:12:08  <sberryman>so does jitsu apps start behave just like deploy with zero downtime?
18:12:12  <jetienne>blakmatrix: the 'jitsu deploy' put a '*' there.. so i let it… but now i got unexpected results… so i wonder
18:12:23  <coderarity>sberryman, yeah it should
18:12:37  <sberryman>fucking socket hang up
18:12:39  <blakmatrix>jetienne: it should be the latest in npm
18:13:10  <blakmatrix>jetienne: thats what it defaults too
18:13:40  <jetienne>blakmatrix: ok trying to set explicitly the version i got locally
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18:14:47  <the>hey fellas
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18:16:36  <blakmatrix>Guest81196: hey
18:16:57  <terite>resourceful ids make no sense
18:17:02  <terite>http://pastebin.com/t8qHE2UZ
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18:21:50  <jetienne>q. if i do a jitsu deploy in a repo with symlinks, are they honored on the server ?
18:22:51  <sberryman>jetienne: try "jitsu package create" and then look at the file to see what is in it
18:23:04  <sberryman>or download the snapshot
18:23:15  <mmalecki>tgz honors those
18:23:21  <mmalecki>(I think)
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18:26:28  <jetienne>mmalecki: it does yes. so i get that jitsu deploy is a .tgz in the back
18:26:46  <jetienne>sberryman: how to download the snapshot ?
18:27:28  <sberryman>jetienne: https://develop.nodejitsu.com or "jitsu snapshots fetch"
18:28:40  <jetienne>sberryman: thx
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18:32:28  <sberryman>mmalecki: this is insane but changing tcp_keepalive_interval to 5 minutes seems to have fixed redis and mongodb connection problems :)
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18:32:38  <mmalecki>heh, nice
18:32:57  <sberryman>i only wasted about 4 days on it
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18:35:30  * jetienneis discovering nodejitsu services :)
18:35:35  <jetienne>nice console :)
18:37:25  <sberryman>can you guys take a look at sberryman / teeleader-api
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18:37:45  <sberryman>i've deployed a few times today and i think i keep hitting a drone with some type of error
18:37:53  <sberryman>the typical socket hang up error
18:38:44  <sberryman>bradleymeck: any progress on a more verbose deploy log?
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18:39:41  <bradleymeck>sberryman: waiting on other deploy before i can enable it, but the build server and the slaves are going to vomit tons logs if you set jitsu config value
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18:42:07  <sberryman>bradleymeck: haha, too verbose?
18:42:22  <bradleymeck>sberryman: you can grep it
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18:44:05  <sberryman>cool
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18:44:48  <sberryman>did you reverse the log output for jitsu logs by any chance? :)
18:44:58  <sberryman>so the latest shows up on the bottom?
18:45:19  <sberryman>guess that would mean descending sort
18:46:23  <sberryman>or are you guys waiting for a tailable type log output?
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18:50:26  <bradleymeck>sberryman: i did not
18:50:53  <generalissimo>we're getting 404 No application found for http://fantasyfootballchat.jit.su/
18:51:01  <generalissimo>but it shows in the applications list
18:51:06  <generalissimo>and it says it's started
18:51:11  <coderarity>`jitsu start`?
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18:54:02  <generalissimo>not sure why that worked
18:54:10  <generalissimo>web interface said it was already running
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18:55:32  <sberryman>web interface is a little funky... at least in my experience
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18:55:46  <sberryman>those "started" badges are not real time
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18:56:51  <coderarity>generalissimo, yeah, don't use the web interface, we're making a better one
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18:59:19  <generalissimo>coderarity: lol, k
18:59:33  <sberryman>so who is Charlie Robbins?
18:59:39  <coderarity>CEO
18:59:52  <mmalecki>superhiman
18:59:57  <mmalecki>*superhuman
18:59:57  <sberryman>heh, just came across this article: http://www.loggly.com/blog/2011/03/using-the-loggly-node-js-library/
19:00:00  <coderarity>he's indexzero
19:00:26  <mmalecki>he can heal people by looking at them
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19:01:17  <sberryman>i bet loggly was awesome 1 year ago before you guys started logging TB's a day
19:01:48  <coderarity>we don't log that much :
19:01:51  <coderarity>:\
19:02:09  <mmalecki>you sure coderarity?
19:02:29  <mmalecki>I never cared to get exact data but that doesn't seem *that* unreasonable
19:02:44  <coderarity>avianflu said we were getting throttled at some number of gigabytes
19:02:54  <coderarity>i don't remember the exact number, though
19:03:07  <AvianFlu>we're not logging terabytes
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19:03:19  <AvianFlu>we also haven't been throttled lately
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19:03:25  <AvianFlu>it's been slow and itermittently dropping otherwise
19:03:32  <coderarity>interesting
19:03:33  <AvianFlu>causes unclear
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19:05:01  <sberryman>i'm trying to figure out what i want to do with logging
19:05:17  <sberryman>i would like at least 30 days worth
19:05:20  <CoverSlide>loggly is not web scale?
19:05:38  <sberryman>and jitsu logs certainly does not let me access that (at least i'm not aware of how I would do that)
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19:06:26  <coderarity>sberryman, you could throw it at an iriscouch
19:06:46  <AvianFlu>there was a service that has instructions for using them with our hosting...
19:06:48  <sberryman>iriscouch?
19:06:52  <AvianFlu>I have to think of what it was
19:06:56  <coderarity>it's a couchdb hosting thing
19:06:58  <coderarity>https://github.com/indexzero/winston-couchdb
19:07:09  <AvianFlu>I feel like it had 'log' in the company name
19:07:12  <AvianFlu>but not loggly
19:07:20  <AvianFlu>logentries, I think
19:07:22  <AvianFlu>that's what it was
19:07:30  <AvianFlu>TO THE GOOGLE!
19:08:22  <sberryman>leave it to the irish to develop this :)
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19:09:45  <sberryman>AvianFlu: and they have a solution that will log stdout(err)?
19:09:50  <AvianFlu>https://logentries.com/doc/nodejitsu/
19:09:56  <AvianFlu>I haven't looked at this yet
19:10:43  <AvianFlu>it doesn't look like it will automatically wrap stdio for you
19:10:51  <sberryman>i saw
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19:12:14  <sberryman>did you guys create winston before bunyan was released?
19:12:23  <sberryman>they seem pretty damn similar
19:12:36  <sberryman>https://github.com/trentm/node-bunyan
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19:13:22  <sberryman>looks like you guys have profiling which is pretty cool (winston)
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19:13:58  <jacobkuhl>about how long should a deploy take
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19:15:14  <jacobkuhl>any ideas as to why when deploying a simple server is hanging up
19:15:36  <jetienne>web is cool sometime
19:15:46  <jetienne>one can host a Skype in webgl for free :)
19:16:07  <jetienne>github handles static files, jit.su handle webrtc part
19:16:18  <jetienne>who needs to pay 8.5billions :)
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19:17:03  <CoverSlide>host a skype in webgl?
19:17:25  <jetienne>http://jeromeetienne.github.com/webglmeeting2/#jit.su Skype as p2p video conf
19:17:57  <jesusabdullah>jacobkuhl: hi, I can help you, but I need to know more about your error. Can you paste the entire output from jitsu (or wherever you're seeing the error) into a http://gist.github.com ?
19:18:53  <jacobkuhl>Okay will do
19:19:20  <jacobkuhl>I am deploying my node app through the website and was just taking a really long time
19:19:47  <jacobkuhl>we are including socket.io so that could be the reason
19:20:36  <jacobkuhl>and it has been about 30 mins on the creating app phase
19:22:19  <jesusabdullah>jacobkuhl: can you please use jitsu instead of the web ui?
19:22:31  <jesusabdullah>jacobkuhl: the web ui has a lot of problems and it's very particular about how you bundle your app
19:22:38  <jesusabdullah>jacobkuhl: http://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu
19:22:44  <jesusabdullah>jacobkuhl: sudo npm install jitsu -g
19:22:53  <jacobkuhl>okay will try that method
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19:23:04  <jesusabdullah>awesome, let me know if you need a hand
19:23:18  <jacobkuhl>okay will do
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19:36:01  <coderarity>sberryman, you could do something like `jitsu logs | tail -r` to reverse the log output
19:36:14  <sberryman>coderarity: thanks
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19:38:20  <jacobkuhl>when deploying now it is getting a socket hang up
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20:01:44  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: should probably reverse the output for default view
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20:06:09  <mdedetrich>launching a website live on nodejitsu
20:06:17  <mdedetrich>lets see how it goes
20:06:33  <theCole>mdedetrich: should go smooth like butter
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20:25:54  <terite>I'm digging through flatiron/restful. Is there anyone I should ping with questions/findings?
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20:27:06  <coderarity>you can just ask here
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20:28:22  <terite>lets say I .get('/album/invalid-album/song'), it currently returns songs, which is bad
20:29:07  <terite>running `node test/relational/one-many-test.js`
20:29:25  <evan_>how should i handle logging with nodejitsu? it seems console.log messages are only retained for a short period? is there a better method? thanks!!
20:30:35  <coderarity>well if `jitsu logs` isn't enough for you, you could try something like https://logentries.com/doc/nodejitsu/
20:32:13  <terite>I guess I'd just like a "yeah that should be a 404"
20:32:17  <evan_>thanks, i'll look into it!
20:33:28  <evan_>wow, logentries seems like a great service, thank you!
20:33:54  <coderarity>terite, i mean, it says .get(prefix + '/album/invalid-album/song/invalid-song').expect(404) ;P
20:34:16  <coderarity>evan_, yeah, looks basically free
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20:42:01  <mdedetrich>If only nodejitsu was as fast as heroku
20:42:04  <mdedetrich>that would be insane
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20:44:12  <mmalecki>hm, what makes it slower for you?
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21:02:24  <sberryman>nevermind, found it
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