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00:00:09  <blakmatrix>why do you want to restart server 2? why couple it with server 1?
00:01:23  <coderarity>what are you trying to do/
00:01:24  <coderarity>?*
00:01:26  <Patabugen>I'm not sure to be honest, someone else is working on them. One is the chat server and the other the game server, I presume they've not built in a re-connect between them
00:01:54  <blakmatrix>I'd use events and have the 2 processes listen to eachother... if server one sends the "I just started" event you could have server 2 listen for that and restart itself as well
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00:02:23  <coderarity>do you even need to put them in seperate porocesses? if you're not on a dual core server it's going to make it slower
00:02:23  <Patabugen>Ah interesting,
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00:03:04  <coderarity>it should be really easy to combine two processes in node
00:03:43  <Patabugen>I'm very new to node (though not to Javascript)
00:03:48  <blakmatrix>coderarity: it makes keeping chat and game seperate tho
00:03:57  <coderarity>blakmatrix: no
00:04:09  <coderarity>the idea of seperating logic into processes doesn't really make sense
00:04:16  <blakmatrix>*sense* otherwis you end up with crappy coupling issues
00:04:33  <Patabugen>Is it not possible in Forever?
00:04:36  <coderarity>just make a third file, like start.js, and then `require ('server1'); require('server2');`
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00:04:42  <blakmatrix>like you can only loginto chat by using the game
00:04:52  <coderarity>blakmatrix: no
00:04:58  <coderarity>Patabugen: yeah, you should be able to do this
00:05:18  <blakmatrix>coderarity: much like wow was for a while
00:05:24  <coderarity>blakmatrix: look at the video that they link on nodejs.org
00:05:41  <Patabugen>coderarity: If I do that will the chat server die if the game server has a problem? Enough that Forever will restart it?
00:05:42  <coderarity>blakmatrix: he actually gives an example of combiningervers
00:05:57  <coderarity>Patabugen: yeah, it would
00:05:58  <blakmatrix>coderarity: they did a huge overhaul converting to use chat on the battle.net system to have chat withing thier game worlds
00:06:33  <Patabugen>blakmatrix: Are you saying coder's suggestion is good or do you not like it?
00:06:36  <coderarity>Patabugen: that's not seperating logic though, that's just failt tolerance :P
00:06:46  <coderarity>Patabugen: fault* anyways, carry on
00:07:38  <coderarity>actually, I would just have several drones that share state
00:07:52  <coderarity>but that's a lot more work, that you might not be willing to do
00:08:57  <deoxxa>morning
00:09:10  <coderarity>deoxxa: good morning
00:09:12  <Patabugen>Hmm, so if I do require('server1'); should that run the code within as if I had done "node server1" ?
00:09:18  <Patabugen>(it doesn't appear to)
00:09:26  <Patabugen>Or shall I take this to #node ;)
00:09:28  <coderarity>Patabugen: it should?
00:09:35  <coderarity>Patabugen: your forever problem is still an issue
00:10:51  <Patabugen>I thought this way if one throws an error boh would die?
00:10:54  <Patabugen>both*
00:11:09  <coderarity>Patabugen: if you require both scripts, yeah, that would happen
00:11:19  <coderarity>if you want to restart them together, I would assume that's what you want
00:11:48  <Patabugen>Yeah, I don't actually always need to restart them together (ChatServer can restart without GameServer but not vice-versa)
00:11:56  <blakmatrix>for a simple app its easy enough to do what coderarity suggests... but in the long run its better to have certain things separate for plenty of reasons, but at that stage things shouldn't even be on the same servers
00:11:58  <Patabugen>but it's not reallly a problem to do it
00:12:13  <coderarity>yeah, that
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00:13:15  <Patabugen>For now, assuming I can't change the behaviour of either of the servers. What would you suggest?
00:13:31  <Patabugen>Change the behaviour of the servers, can be an answer. But I'd much rather get something going first
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00:16:12  <coderarity>Patabugen: yeah, can I see the part of the file that you're starting forever at?
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00:16:59  <Patabugen>Yeah, there's been many versions as you can imagine. I'll show you the one which is how I'd like it to work
00:17:30  <coderarity>that's a good idea
00:19:11  <Patabugen>coderarity: http://pastebin.com/212X4ZaQ
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00:25:28  <jesusabdullah>apantev: Do you have the rest of the output? I need to see your username and app name to do a more in-depth analysis
00:27:18  <Patabugen>coderarity: That works fine except that "chatServer.restart();" doesn't appear to do anything
00:28:00  <Patabugen>perhaps I could send a signal to chatServer to tell it to kill itself, I'll have a look at it's code
00:28:06  <Patabugen>(As I said, new to NodeJS)
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00:37:27  <apantev>jesusabdullah: I made a new gist with username/app name: https://gist.github.com/3802744 Thank you for the help!
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00:42:46  <Patabugen>coderarity I have it! chatServer.start(true) appears to do the trick
00:43:17  <Patabugen>hm possiblt not :(
00:43:23  <Patabugen>It's starting new instances
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00:49:10  <chovy>i already created a demo domain, can i create another one w/ same account?
00:54:03  <jesusabdullah>apantev: I see the application name but not the username?
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00:58:41  <Patabugen>Does anyone know how to force a restart on a child in Forever?
00:58:53  <Patabugen>Given the forever.Monitor object
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01:01:50  <Patabugen>Ah! chatServer.child.kill(); seems to be it, finally!
01:01:59  <apantev>jesusabdullah: My bad my username is the same as my app name "antonpantev", so I didn't realize it wasn't there. Here is the full gist just in case: https://gist.github.com/3802794
01:02:17  <jesusabdullah>apantev: Okay, gimme 5 secs and I'll see what I can find.
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01:13:49  <Sly>Oh noes. kohai timed out.
01:15:19  <jesusabdullah>apantev: It looks like one of the machines you hit was having problems, still trying to interpret logs on this other box. Are you down for doing a deploy while I watch?
01:15:54  <apantev>jesusabullah: yeah no problem, just tell me when
01:16:42  <jesusabdullah>apantev: It looks like your app is taking too long to listen on a socket. How long does it take your app to spawn an http server?
01:17:52  <apantev>jesusabdullah: I'm not sure. How would I find that out?
01:18:11  <jesusabdullah>apantev: run 'npm start' locally
01:20:00  <apantev>jesusabdullah: I got the following errors https://gist.github.com/3802824
01:20:11  <deoxxa>> Are you down for doing a deploy while I watch?
01:20:13  <deoxxa>so kinky
01:20:27  <jesusabdullah>apantev: try changing the start field to "node ./server.js"
01:20:28  <Sly>rofl, deoxxa.
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01:24:18  <coderarity>Patabugen: i will remember that
01:24:26  <apantev>jesusabdullah: changing the start field to "node ./server.js" did not seem to help
01:24:50  <Patabugen>I hope it's the best way to do it! It appears to be what is used within the code
01:24:55  <jesusabdullah>do you actually have a server.js file?
01:25:03  <apantev>jesusabdullah: It successfully deployed 1 out of my 3 attempts with the new start field
01:25:08  <Patabugen>I don't get why the restart() and kill() methods are not working, perhaps I have a different version
01:25:17  <jesusabdullah>also apantev just do node ./server.js
01:25:17  <Patabugen>coderarity ^
01:26:46  <coderarity>Patabugen: I'm not sure, if they're not working like they should you should make an issue at https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/issues
01:26:51  <apantev>jesusabdullah: Yes I do have a server.js file here it is https://gist.github.com/3802841
01:27:15  <Patabugen>coderarity: I shall investigate soon, for now I need to sleep! Thanks for all your time =)
01:27:44  <coderarity>Patabugen: alright, c ya
01:28:07  <apantev>jesusabdullah: in case you were wondering what happens when I run it locally here is the output https://gist.github.com/3802849
01:28:08  <jesusabdullah>apantev: so what happens when you run node ./server.js yourself?
01:28:34  <jesusabdullah>apantev: also what os are you on?
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01:28:45  <apantev>jesusabdullah: I'm doing this as root since its using port 80 and I'm on ubuntu
01:29:37  <coderarity>Patabugen: maybe check out forever.restart
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01:30:52  <Patabugen>coderarity: I did, though perhaps not correctly
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01:31:02  <jesusabdullah>apantev: change the port to a non-80 port, above 1024
01:31:08  <jesusabdullah>apantev: we punch it to 80 so it's not a problem
01:31:17  <coderarity>hmmm, well, if you make an issue with how you did it i'll do some testing
01:31:25  <jesusabdullah>apantev: this may also fix your problems, sometimes ports under 1024 cause problems
01:31:33  <Patabugen>I'll make an issue one day next week
01:32:08  <chovy>do i have to have my own redis + mongo db to use nodejitsu?
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01:33:25  <deoxxa>chovy: only if you want to use redis or mongodb
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01:34:00  <jesusabdullah>chovy: you can requisition with `jitsu databases`
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01:34:03  <jesusabdullah>chovy: give it a shot!
01:34:10  <jesusabdullah>chovy: they're cloud db's just to be clear, no colo
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01:37:17  <apantev>jesusabdullah: Changed it to port 3000, jitsu deploy still throwing "Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error" most of the time
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01:39:17  <jesusabdullah>apantev: so how long does it take your app to start an http listener?
01:39:31  <jesusabdullah>apantev: run your server locally and see how long it takes
01:39:39  <jesusabdullah>apantev: if it's more than a second you should change that
01:39:58  <apantev>jesusabdullah: Locally it starts instantly
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01:49:47  <jesusabdullah>I see.
01:58:52  <jesusabdullah>apantev: so you don't have anything that initializes before the server starts listening?
01:59:46  <jesusabdullah>apantev: I can watch you try to deploy if you'd like, we can see if the error is different, but other than that all I can suggest is spinning up the http server first
02:00:26  <apantev>jesusabdullah: the only thing the server code does (besides print out those 3 console message) is start an express server with a static public directory
02:01:02  <jesusabdullah>okay, one moment
02:02:21  <jesusabdullah>okay apantev I'm watching, deploy when ready
02:02:58  <apantev>jesusabdullah: its deploying
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02:04:21  <apantev>jesusabdullah: the first deploy attempt worked, the second attempted didn't I'm not sure if you saw it
02:05:06  <jesusabdullah>yeah, I saw the first worked
02:05:28  <jesusabdullah>second one, busted machine
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02:05:53  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/sockethangup_copy] [api][minor] Added copy for socket hang up errors regarding client hang up #311 - Farrin Reid
02:05:53  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/sockethangup_copy] [api][minor] Added copy for socket hang up errors regarding non client issues #311 - Farrin Reid
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02:05:54  <jesusabdullah>machine has been reported
02:06:13  <blakmatrix>jesusabdullah: ^^
02:07:47  <jesusabdullah>hmm
02:07:50  <jesusabdullah>let me think about that
02:07:55  <apantev>jesusabdullah: cool thank you for the help!
02:08:00  <jesusabdullah>apantev: you're welcome
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02:17:55  <chovy>jesusabdullah: where is the data stored then?
02:18:10  <chovy>i mean, can i pull my database out of there if i need to later?
02:18:23  <Sly>Wow, dude.. People were right. Ubuntu is apparently becoming an ad supported OS.
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02:18:36  <Sly>I just found Amazon in my program list.
02:18:52  <Sly>Like.. the fuck? Really? Just going to slip Amazon in there?
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02:21:56  <deoxxa>Sly: did you see the grep bug report
02:22:08  <Sly>No? O_o
02:22:15  <deoxxa>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1055766
02:23:03  <jesusabdullah>chovy: mongohq and redis2go, respectively
02:23:38  <Sly>ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
02:23:43  <Sly>Oh my God.
02:23:56  <deoxxa>pretty great, right? lol
02:24:14  <Sly>Whoever it is, I would totally buy them a beer for that.
02:25:09  <Sly>deoxxa,
02:25:14  <Sly>The best part about the whole bug report..
02:25:15  <Sly>Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote on 2012-09-25: #6
02:25:15  <Sly>Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
02:25:19  <deoxxa>lol yeah
02:25:20  <Sly>xD
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02:47:07  <Sly>deoxxa, http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/11071/do-louis-vuitton-burns-all-their-unsold-begs
02:47:44  <deoxxa>wat
02:49:09  <Sly>ikr?
02:49:38  <deoxxa>people are weird
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02:53:14  <deoxxa>awesome, my own silly hosting platform thing is coming along nicely
02:53:32  <deoxxa>this will make work much less annoying for me
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02:54:53  <deoxxa>i wish i could just use a proper saas place :/
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02:59:40  <deoxxa>i've got all these shell scripts prefixed with plz-
02:59:45  <deoxxa>makes deploying stuff interesting
02:59:47  <deoxxa>\o/
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03:11:14  <chovy>jesusabdullah: what does requistion a db do, does it create the db on those cloud services for me?
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03:20:45  <Sly>Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow,.
03:20:52  <Sly>deoxxa, you thought that was bad.. http://parenting.stackexchange.com/
03:20:59  <Sly>People actually need a site on StackExchange for how to raise their kids.
03:21:13  <deoxxa>"How to better engage myself with my 15 month old"
03:21:26  <deoxxa>i think at that point you just need to cram food in their mouths and keep them clean
03:21:31  <Sly>I can solve all of their problems with one answer: Stop raising your kid to get anyway with anything they want, and spank their ass like I would have got when I was younger.
03:21:31  <deoxxa>there's not a lot of engaging going on
03:21:53  <Sly>Also, true story @ the topic you pointed out.
03:22:14  <deoxxa>"7 month old will no longer play on her stomach" ????
03:22:19  <deoxxa>who.. the hell cares?
03:22:26  <Sly>rofl
03:22:56  <deoxxa>"Why is my 3 month old waking up 10+ times a night?" because they're 3 MONTHS OLD
03:23:01  <deoxxa>that's what 3 month old kids do
03:23:06  <deoxxa>jeez
03:23:08  <deoxxa>these people suck
03:23:10  <jesusabdullah>chovy: yes indeedy
03:23:11  <Sly>Hahahahahhahaha
03:23:19  <Sly>Let's take this to the offtopic chan.
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03:35:24  <chovy>is there a guide on how to set it up?
03:36:18  <dragon>Can I deploy my kids to jitsu?
03:36:29  <dragon>My older kid is as old as nodejs.
03:36:36  <dragon>Younger one is about the age of npm.
03:37:55  <jesusabdullah>dragon: https://github.com/nodejitsu/handbook
03:45:46  <dragon>Thank you jesus!
03:45:52  <dragon>I feel loved.
03:47:23  <Sly>Did you mean chovy, jesusabdullah?
03:47:25  <Sly>lol
03:48:21  <Sly>dragon, if you could deploy your kids.. everyone would want to do that.. and then we would be screwed with all of the juice boxes being spilled on the servers and such.
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03:50:43  <dragon>We wouldn't have kids if we weren't getting screwed in first place.
03:50:54  <dragon>We're screwed, as a civilization.
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03:51:53  <Sly>I don't have to worry about having kids, so it's all good. I get screwed enough ways as it is. :D
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04:06:29  <jesusabdullah>I did mean chovy
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07:30:03  <yawnot>hai
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07:56:55  <yawnot>ò/ AvianFlu
07:57:07  <AvianFlu>SUP YO
07:57:32  <yawnot>waiting for the conf to start
07:57:39  <yawnot>i stole some adapter so i can charge my laptop
07:57:42  <yawnot>checking emails n stuff
08:01:14  <AvianFlu>HOLY CRAP HILARIOUS LOLZ
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08:02:24  <yawnot>lol
08:02:39  <yawnot>there was maciej last night n he was like ' NO DUDE, YOU MUST KEEP DRINKING'
08:04:24  <AvianFlu>HE DOES THAT
08:04:51  <yawnot>IT IS NOT CAPSLOCK DAY DAMMIT
08:05:16  <yawnot>i'm thinking of following the talks like on the live stream and chill here
08:05:36  <AvianFlu>did maciej speak yesterday or is he speaking today
08:05:40  <yawnot>today
08:05:43  <yawnot>2 pm i believe
08:05:47  <AvianFlu>cool
08:05:49  <yawnot>also karolina is today..
08:05:53  <yawnot>charlie was yesterday
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08:08:50  <AvianFlu>I saw charlie's
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08:12:18  <yawnot>it was cool
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08:45:15  <jetienne>with socket.io server, can i read the url of connection in the socket object ?
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09:19:55  <feklee>Cannot deploy a new app: "Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error"
09:20:32  <feklee>Any idea what could be the problem?
09:21:45  <yawnot>could you paste the package.json and jitsu's output on a gist, please? :)
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09:27:37  <mmalecki>yawnot: yo, status?
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09:28:35  <mmalecki>he's at the venue, then...
09:28:57  <feklee>https://gist.github.com/3873344eb33ed8b6046e
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09:29:28  <feklee>Oh, seems private coculd be the issue.
09:29:32  <mmalecki>feklee: please try again
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09:31:45  <feklee>mmalecki: Still doesn't work, although I removed the `private`.
09:33:52  <feklee>Changed `start` to `server.js` now, and trying again (previous value: `node server.js`).
09:33:59  <feklee>But still doesn't work.
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09:42:08  <feklee>I give up for now...
09:43:28  <yawnot>did you paste the stuff in a gist?
09:43:36  <yawnot>internet doesn't quite work right
09:46:33  <feklee>yawnot: Just updated the gist, posted already above (guess you didn't see it): https://gist.github.com/3873344eb33ed8b6046e
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09:50:08  <yawnot>feklee: is the code you have on the github repo the same you deploy
09:50:10  <yawnot>?
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09:52:04  <feklee>yawnot: Just pushed the latest changes to the `next` branch: https://github.com/feklee/rotogamesq/tree/next
09:52:10  <feklee>That's what I want to deploy.
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10:15:43  <yawnot>internet's back \ò\
10:16:45  <mmalecki>yawnot: net is stable at the hotel actually
10:16:58  <mmalecki>well, at least in [0]'s apt
10:17:27  <yawnot>i'm just like running around finding empty hotspots lol
10:17:31  <yawnot>btw karolina's speaking
10:17:50  <mmalecki>I KNOW
10:17:56  <mmalecki>and I'm missing it :<
10:18:14  <yawnot>it's a cool talk.. there was a need of a break from coding coding coding
10:18:22  <yawnot>the haskell 2 js stuff was also quite sweet
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10:21:40  <feklee>yawnot: In case you missed it due to flaky Internet, what I want to deploy: https://github.com/feklee/rotogamesq/tree/next
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10:22:15  <feklee>If you're busy, no problem. It's nothing time critical. App isn't finished yet.
10:22:32  <yawnot>no problem.. it's just my internet disconnects every minute lol
10:23:16  <feklee>yawnot: No 3G over there?
10:23:27  <yawnot>yeah, but i don't have it
10:23:38  <yawnot>it costs a lot if you have an italian provider
10:23:55  <yawnot>it's like 2,50 € / day for 100 MB .. something like that i think
10:24:20  <feklee>yawnot: I read that in Italy they have good prepaid offers. But I've never been there in recent years, so don't know for sure.
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10:25:19  <yawnot>yeah i have prepaid
10:25:26  <yawnot>but internet is a different matter
10:26:00  <feklee>Just checked: TIM - 30d/2GB for 9 EUR. http://www.tim.it/internet/Internet-Star
10:26:09  <feklee>Also there are offers from Vodefone.
10:26:10  <yawnot>i don't have tim
10:26:13  <yawnot>i got vodafone
10:26:17  <yawnot>and that's only for italian 3g
10:26:23  <yawnot>i'm in portugal right now
10:27:06  <yawnot>feklee: btw have you tried re-deploying?
10:28:36  <feklee>yawnot: Yes, a couple of times. I also deleted the app using the web interface, then tried redeploying.
10:29:02  <feklee>It's probably some oversight on my part. After all the app is just standard Node / express.
10:30:41  <yawnot>it looks fine to me.. bbut
10:31:03  <yawnot>mmalecki: is there a problem if node_modules ain't in the gitignore? i mean.. like jitsu uploads it or not?
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10:33:35  <mmalecki>yawnot: no, npm ignores it
10:33:37  <dmitri>hi
10:34:19  <mmalecki>anyway
10:34:19  <mmalecki>i just fixed all econnrefused btw
10:34:57  <dmitri>could you help me with this error while deploying http://notepad.cc/tracer ?
10:36:26  <dmitri>now this error - http://notepad.cc/tracer2
10:36:38  <dmitri>does deploy functionality work now?
10:38:40  <dmitri>mm?
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11:07:14  <jvduf>Hey Guys, anybody there?
11:07:24  <jvduf>ping AvianFlu mmalecki jesusabdullah
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11:19:28  <mmalecki>jvduf: sup?
11:19:43  <jvduf>mmalecki: enjoying lxjs?
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11:20:57  <mmalecki_>jvduf: sup?
11:21:13  <jvduf>mmalecki_: trying to deploy an app but getting:
11:21:32  <jvduf>… quickly creating a gist with err mess
11:21:34  <mmalecki_>jvduf: gchat is less stable than irc here
11:22:27  <jvduf>mmalecki_: https://gist.github.com/570a4a27a61772037c67
11:22:53  <jvduf>mmalecki_: ok I'll keep trying irc :)
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11:25:34  <mmalecki_>jvduf: sec, can't load this gist
11:25:44  <mmalecki_>econnrefused, interesting...
11:25:52  <jvduf>mmalecki_: ok
11:25:56  <jvduf>mmalecki_: yea
11:26:00  <jvduf>don't understand why :S
11:26:08  <jvduf>just a simple node-static app
11:26:11  <mmalecki_>I do
11:26:41  <jvduf>mmalecki_: you always do :P
11:26:47  <jvduf>that's why you rock
11:27:14  <mmalecki_>lulz
11:27:25  <mmalecki_>problem is, conference wifi sucks, 3g sucks even more
11:27:38  <mmalecki_>trying to figure out how to solve this
11:27:52  <jvduf>cool - no rush though
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11:32:28  <mmalecki_>jvduf: try now
11:32:34  <mmalecki_>jvduf: I *think* I just fixed it
11:32:49  <jvduf>mmalecki_: trying
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11:33:43  <jvduf>mmalecki_: now it's taking very very long to start the app
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11:34:30  <jvduf>mmalecki_: https://gist.github.com/d9c12406c77358c83bac
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11:39:10  <mmalecki_>well, do you listen on your socket?
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11:54:23  <jvduf>mmalecki_: well - I'm not doing anything :S
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11:55:50  <jvduf>mmalecki: well - I'm not doing anything :S Just using node static to serve files from a server
11:56:14  <mmalecki>jvduf: yeah, I got that
11:56:27  <mmalecki>few of our servers ended up on a very slow head node
11:56:37  <mmalecki>trying to find what's causing that
11:56:41  <jvduf>mmalecki: ok
11:56:44  <mmalecki>but conference wifi and shit
11:56:57  <mmalecki>if I can't figure it out, I'll call AvianFlu
11:59:14  <jvduf>mmalecki: sure - just let me know when fixed
11:59:25  <jvduf>mmalecki: no pressure :)
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12:09:34  <admc>getting internal server errors deploying
12:09:34  <admc>https://gist.github.com/3803819
12:09:41  <admc>anyone have a second to check that out?
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12:18:44  <mmalecki>admc: how big is your app?
12:20:39  <deoxxa>that's a bit of a personal question don't you think
12:22:53  <yawn>hey deoxxa
12:22:58  <deoxxa>sup
12:22:59  <deoxxa>how's lxjs
12:23:01  <yawn>how you doing
12:23:05  <yawn>it's great, great
12:23:16  <yawn>i've met tons of of great people
12:23:19  <deoxxa>i'm not bad, just hacking away on my homebrew deployment thing
12:23:55  <deoxxa>https://github.com/deoxxa/plz did this up today
12:24:26  <deoxxa>instagit + plz = deployment made easy
12:24:45  <yawn>i swear i read instagram
12:24:48  <yawn>i was like... dafuq
12:24:50  <deoxxa>haha
12:24:59  <yawn>OH MAN
12:25:02  <yawn>YOU ON APP.NET?
12:25:05  <deoxxa>i am
12:25:09  <yawn>pff
12:25:13  <yawn>shame on you
12:25:14  <deoxxa>:<
12:25:37  <yawn>you know what
12:25:47  <yawn>let's build a lasting messaging system that uses irc
12:25:54  <deoxxa>can we call it irc
12:25:55  <yawn>like a delayed persistent IRC
12:26:04  <yawn>no.. persistent and delayed
12:26:09  <admc>mmalecki not very big
12:26:10  <yawn>like you get the messages when you login
12:26:11  <admc>small express app
12:26:15  <yawn>not when they're sent
12:26:17  <admc>shitty hotel wifi though
12:26:25  <deoxxa>yawn: it's called a bouncer
12:26:29  <yawn>no
12:26:34  <yawn>is it?
12:26:36  <yawn>really?
12:26:37  <yawn>link.
12:26:45  <yawn>btw i was kinda half joking
12:26:52  <deoxxa>http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
12:26:59  <yawn>i mean.. idea is stupid but i do think irc has still unexploited potential
12:27:06  <yawn>i just need to find a way to use that
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12:27:17  <deoxxa>i've been thinking of using it for logging
12:27:25  <yawn>i've been thinking of using it for calling
12:27:26  <deoxxa>i just haven't gotten around to writing a winston module yet for some reason
12:27:36  <yawn>encode the audio using base4
12:27:36  <deoxxa>probably because i'm lazy
12:27:37  <yawn>64
12:27:40  <deoxxa>ha
12:27:41  <yawn>send it through irc
12:27:41  <yawn>decode
12:27:44  <yawn>VOILA'
12:27:46  <deoxxa>that'd be neat
12:27:50  <yawn>not really
12:27:52  <deoxxa>it'd have to be crazy low bandwidth though
12:27:56  <deoxxa>like ulaw or something
12:27:56  <yawn>it'd just be a cool PoC
12:28:02  <yawn>usability would suck so much
12:28:10  <yawn>is there a streaming irc client?
12:28:11  <yawn>if there was
12:28:15  <yawn>i might actually do that
12:28:34  <deoxxa>you could use liner and irc-parser
12:28:49  <yawn>link?
12:29:12  <deoxxa>https://github.com/mvolkmann/node-liner and https://github.com/andrew12/irc-parse
12:29:29  <mmalecki>aaaand my talk isn't finished yet
12:29:50  <yawn>mmalecki: are you up next?
12:30:01  <deoxxa>that's ok, nobody's going to listen to your drivel anyway mmalecki
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12:30:10  <yawn>hey st_luke !
12:30:19  <yawn>(he's like next to me)
12:30:25  <deoxxa>lel
12:30:54  <yawn>ok.. gotta get up
12:30:58  <yawn>HUSH
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12:31:22  <mmalecki>yawn: YES
12:31:39  <yawn>i'll come see yo talk then
12:31:55  <mmalecki>actually I'm in 30 minutes
12:31:57  <mmalecki>let me check
12:32:17  <mmalecki>wait
12:32:20  <mmalecki>Bert might be first
12:32:57  <yawn>yeah they're doing something on Azure i guess
12:34:04  <yawn>okay deoxxa
12:34:06  <yawn>let's do it!
12:34:20  <deoxxa>whaaaa
12:34:26  <yawn>?
12:34:27  <deoxxa>you're not roping me into your crazy project
12:34:33  * deoxxais too busy already
12:34:50  <deoxxa>you're on your own, my italian friend
12:34:50  <yawn>come on
12:34:56  * yawnsobs *
12:34:58  <yawn>pleaaase
12:35:09  <deoxxa>how about i beta test for you
12:35:15  <yawn>lol
12:35:21  <yawn>uhm
12:35:27  <yawn>binaryjs to the rescue
12:36:01  <yawn>i can't imagine how much traffic this stuff will generate
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12:37:02  <deoxxa>a lot
12:37:34  <deoxxa>i think conference calls would be the best
12:37:41  <yawn>base64 is SOOOOO lengthy
12:37:43  <deoxxa>/join #partyline
12:38:25  <yawn>i wonder if i could use some other encoding
12:38:35  <yawn>uhm
12:38:39  <yawn>'data' are buffers right?
12:38:44  <yawn>so i could .toString() them
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12:39:08  <deoxxa>data events can be anything
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12:43:43  <yawn>mh
12:43:43  <yawn>deoxxa: the whole thing is actually pointless
12:43:43  <yawn>because stuff like binaryjs enables you to stream directly the input you record
12:43:43  <yawn>but still
12:43:43  <yawn>:(
12:43:43  <yawn>it'd be fun.. stupid.. but fun
12:45:16  <deoxxa>heh
12:45:18  <deoxxa>fun is always good
12:46:01  <yawn>lag ain't
12:46:02  <yawn>internet connection keeps dropping
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12:46:24  <deoxxa>heh
12:48:39  <yawn>I
12:48:39  <yawn>SHALL NOT FALL
12:48:39  <yawn>inb4 ping timeout
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12:58:33  <yawn>hey deoxxa
12:58:35  <yawn>http://irisnpm.com/
12:58:47  <yawn>your idea is now worthless *evil laugh*
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13:01:05  <deoxxa>what idea ._.
13:01:38  <yawn>didn't you have like something to manage private npm registries?
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13:05:12  <deoxxa>oh, for managing your npm config, yeah
13:05:20  <deoxxa>you'd still need it
13:05:44  <deoxxa>unless this means there'll be decent support for multiple registries in the client from now on
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13:06:23  <deoxxa>in which case, yay!
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13:09:00  <dmitri>is it possible to fix ECONREFUSED error in nearest time?
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13:12:48  <tralamazza>live broken leg pics from #lxjs
13:13:38  <deoxxa>whaaaat
13:14:31  <yawn>yeah
13:14:52  <yawn>mmalecki: is having a talk
13:14:52  <yawn>about node
13:14:52  <yawn>and he was explaining how he got started
13:14:58  <yawn>and it was because of his broken leg.. so there were a couple of pics of him with broken leg
13:15:01  <yawn>lol
13:16:13  <deoxxa>haha
13:16:38  <deoxxa>bone.js
13:18:53  <yawn>*backbone
13:18:56  <yawn>got the joke?
13:18:58  <yawn>i'm so funny
13:19:28  <deoxxa>zing
13:19:44  <yawn>zing?
13:21:46  <deoxxa>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU4bQedps7M
13:25:07  <tralamazza>ah btw, http://2012.lxjs.org/live/
13:25:22  <tralamazza>oups, his talk just ended
13:25:26  <yawn>lol
13:25:33  <yawn>where are you tralamazza ?
13:25:33  <feklee>Deployment finally working!
13:25:59  <tralamazza>scalarium bench, right next to sauce labs table
13:26:44  <deoxxa>aw, i didn't know there was a live stream
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13:26:57  <yawn>YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORANT
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13:27:00  <yawn>:P
13:27:06  <yawn>deoxxa: i won't be able to come to campjs btw
13:27:10  <yawn>i tried, but money ain't enough
13:27:11  <deoxxa>:<
13:27:17  <yawn>you have no idea how sad i ma
13:27:19  <yawn>*am
13:27:32  <deoxxa>oh yeah i'm not going either
13:27:33  <yawn>i mean, if you paid my trip...
13:27:37  <deoxxa>they moved the date
13:27:40  <deoxxa>and i'll be in japan
13:27:42  <yawn>really?
13:27:45  <yawn>when's that now?
13:28:29  <yawn>no they didn't
13:28:30  <deoxxa>february 15-18 2013
13:28:31  <yawn>ohwell
13:28:34  <yawn>maybe they did
13:28:39  <yawn>i'm going to be ON A SPACESHIP
13:28:47  <deoxxa>i don't believe you
13:28:48  <yawn>deoxxa: how long are you staying in .jp?
13:28:55  <deoxxa>i'll be there for like 2 months
13:28:59  <yawn>deoxxa: wait for me.. i'll come flying right into yo dojo
13:29:09  <deoxxa>dojo infiltration
13:29:12  <yawn>no
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13:29:23  <yawn>TERROR FROM ABOVE
13:29:28  <yawn>that's how i like to call it
13:29:30  <yawn>:D
13:29:34  <deoxxa>lol
13:29:43  <yawn>it sounds more frightening you know
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13:35:25  <yawn>:O
13:35:28  <yawn>streaming node irc client
13:35:30  <yawn>this is :Q_
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13:45:30  <yawn>piscisaureus is rocking
13:46:00  <mmalecki>yeah
13:46:10  <tralamazza>huge manifestation outside, none of us is getting out alive
13:46:19  <tralamazza>just sayin
13:46:21  <mmalecki>way better than me actually
13:46:28  <mmalecki>actually, opinions on my talk?
13:47:04  <tralamazza>your talk needs an objective I think
13:47:13  <lpin>mmalecki i missed your talk : /
13:47:18  <lpin>just came back
13:47:38  <yawn>mmalecki: completely honest opinion :P?
13:47:48  <mmalecki>yawn: yup
13:48:09  <mmalecki>lpin: yeah, I should rething my slides
13:48:15  <yawn>mmalecki: it was okay, but not great..
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13:48:25  <yawn>but to be honest i don't know if there was something else to say on the js part
13:48:26  <mmalecki>yawn: yeah, my thinking exactly
13:48:37  <yawn>it's not like you can explain the stdlib
13:48:48  <mmalecki>yeah, the thing was, I got to know I shouldn't explain libuv a week before >.<
13:48:50  <yawn>because everyone can go and read up the docs on nodejs.org
13:49:07  <mmalecki>if I knew, I probably wouldn't be taking the topic
13:49:59  <yawn>mmalecki: the topic was tricky
13:50:01  <yawn>that's undeniable
13:55:26  <pksunkara>I missed this
13:55:26  <pksunkara>any more talks going on?
13:56:04  <feklee>Well, deployment worked, but app doesn't start: https://gist.github.com/3804057
13:56:18  <feklee>Hickups with the Nodejitsu servers today? Better try next week?
13:57:04  <yawn>pksunkara: yeah
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13:57:19  <pksunkara>lxjs-raffle
13:57:21  <pksunkara>??
13:57:34  <yawn>no
13:57:39  <yawn>that's for the rasp pis
13:57:47  <yawn>there's a talk going up now
13:57:52  <pksunkara>feklee: why do you need process.cwd()
13:57:57  <pksunkara>yawn: dmitri?
13:58:03  <pksunkara>he just came on
13:58:16  <feklee>pksunkara: No idea. Must be in express or jade.
13:58:18  <yawn>pksunkara: yep
14:00:05  <lpin>Dmitri Melikyan is speaking right now
14:00:48  <mmalecki>lpin: you going to the boat party?
14:01:46  <yawn>btw do you know where the boat is mmalecki ?
14:01:49  <lpin>unfortunately i'm not there mmalecki
14:01:54  <lpin>watching living stream
14:01:54  <mmalecki>yawn: no idea
14:01:58  <mmalecki>lpin: ah...
14:02:07  <yawn>gotcha
14:02:32  <pksunkara>NP is not nondeterministic
14:03:00  <lpin>i wish i could drink something with you guys :)
14:03:26  <yawn>lpin: :(
14:03:40  <yawn>lpin: you going to nodejsconfit?
14:03:48  <lpin>maybe
14:03:50  <pksunkara>yawn: are you at lxjs? or watching live?
14:03:58  <yawn>pksunkara: lxjs
14:04:06  <yawn>lpin: i bought my ticket this morning
14:04:23  <lpin>kinda cheap so i can think on buying one aswell
14:04:26  <yawn>yeah
14:04:39  <mmalecki>hmmm
14:04:41  <mmalecki>when is it again?
14:04:46  <lpin>Brecia
14:04:50  <lpin>Brescia*
14:04:52  <lpin>italy
14:04:54  <yawn>mmalecki: 10/11
14:05:03  <yawn>come, italy has good food
14:05:08  <yawn>and ticket is like 20€
14:05:15  <yawn>so no need to save money or anything
14:05:42  <mmalecki>yawn: so november?
14:05:47  <yawn>yep
14:05:48  <pksunkara>which country is best place to live in europe?
14:06:02  <mmalecki>pksunkara: Poland ;)
14:06:02  <yawn>pksunkara: i'd say something like sweden?
14:06:05  <yawn>or yeah
14:06:08  <pksunkara>because I am thinking of moving to europe
14:06:11  <lpin>depends on what you are looking for pksunkara
14:06:12  <mmalecki>seriously tho, don't live in Poland
14:06:17  <mmalecki>Poland is hella cheap
14:06:17  <pksunkara>with all the conferences going on there
14:06:19  <mmalecki>but like
14:06:20  <yawn>basically the north/north-east part of europe
14:06:24  <mmalecki>law is fucked
14:06:27  <yawn>i've never been in poland
14:06:29  <yawn>so i can't say
14:06:30  <yawn>but like
14:06:32  <mmalecki>so I'd go with north
14:06:34  <yawn>estonia
14:06:36  <yawn>it's cool
14:06:43  <yawn>they have fast internet, nice people etc
14:07:18  <yawn>i wanted to go visit lisbon a bit though
14:07:24  <pksunkara>sweden do sound good
14:07:26  <yawn>i heard the city centre is great
14:07:29  <pksunkara>but it's far from the confs
14:07:34  <yawn>pksunkara: nah
14:07:41  <yawn>it's like 4-5 hours of flight
14:07:50  <yawn>less if you want to attend LXJS - Poland
14:07:53  <yawn>right mmalecki ^ ?
14:08:14  <mmalecki>shhh
14:08:17  <yawn>lol
14:08:19  * yawnchanged nick to yawnt
14:08:33  <yawnt>btw
14:08:33  <mmalecki>okay, the flight is fucking cheap.
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14:08:39  <mmalecki>I'll buy tickets on Monday
14:08:44  <yawnt>mmalecki: 25 tickets left
14:08:46  <pksunkara>ask them to reduce the noice on the stream
14:08:52  <yawnt>i don't know how much they'll last
14:09:12  <mmalecki>UGH OKAY
14:09:41  <mmalecki>actually I have no idea who's speaking XD
14:09:58  <yawnt>there's felix
14:10:05  <yawnt>i know that for sure
14:10:12  <mmalecki>oh, Glenn!
14:10:13  <yawnt>lol
14:10:15  <mmalecki>DUDE
14:10:15  <yawnt>this is hilarious
14:10:18  <mmalecki>I'm fucking going
14:10:21  <yawnt>somebody posted
14:10:23  <yawnt>'Libuv'
14:10:27  <yawnt>on HackerNews
14:10:30  <yawnt>like some sorta new stuff
14:10:32  <yawnt>it's even trending
14:11:02  <lpin>mmalecki here is the schedule http://www.nodejsconf.it/#schedule
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14:13:16  <mmalecki>WAT
14:13:18  <mmalecki>they want paypal
14:13:32  <yawnt>no
14:13:36  <yawnt>they pay through paypal
14:13:41  <yawnt>but you can use your regular cardd
14:13:44  <yawnt>you don't need to be registerd
14:13:49  <mmalecki>ugh...
14:13:49  <yawnt>i've used my mastercard this morning
14:13:51  <mmalecki>okay.
14:15:48  <mmalecki>I'll be hanging out in Italy for some time then
14:16:09  <yawnt>cool
14:19:41  <yawnt>yeah.. drones
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14:24:14  <mmalecki>yawnt: it crashes with node knockout tho...
14:24:34  <mmalecki>well, I guess I'll be doing conference devps
14:24:38  <mmalecki>*devops
14:24:45  <yawnt>mmalecki: wat?
14:24:47  <yawnt>what crashes?
14:25:00  <mmalecki>it's the same time as node knockout
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14:26:04  <yawnt>oh
14:26:07  <yawnt>yeah
14:26:14  <yawnt>actually
14:26:21  <yawnt>we could put up a team
14:26:25  <yawnt>*put together
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14:26:34  <yawnt>i know guys who've been asking for coders
14:27:10  <mmalecki>I can't
14:27:30  <yawnt>makes sense, conflict of interests
14:27:31  <yawnt>lol
14:27:34  <mmalecki>I'll be shanghai'd into devops
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14:33:56  <feklee>nodejsconf.it sounds interesting. Hope tickets will be available for some more days (until I've my credit card ready).
14:34:02  <travismcelfresh>Are you guys seeing any weird domain issues? My nodjitsu app link is showing someone else's site/code.
14:34:07  <yawnt>:P feklee
14:35:37  <dmitri>guys
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14:35:46  <travismcelfresh>AvianFlu or mmalecki you here?
14:35:55  <dmitri>my app too
14:35:58  <yawnt>that was AWESOME
14:35:59  <feklee>Only why didn't they put the conference more southward... In Nov., the south should've perfect temp.
14:36:05  <yawnt>i want a parrot too now
14:36:19  <mmalecki>travismcelfresh: looking
14:36:27  <mmalecki>travismcelfresh: appname/username?
14:36:29  <travismcelfresh>dmitri - you seeing the same thing? the 'immersion' site instead of your app?
14:36:33  <mmalecki>and which domain is that?
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14:36:44  <dmitri>coordel instead of mine
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14:37:18  <dmitri>here is my app link - http://draweezme.jit.su/
14:37:42  <dmitri>go and take a look at Coordel instead of my site)
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14:38:21  <mmalecki>travismcelfresh: dmitri should be fixed, please verify
14:38:41  <mmalecki>now it's getting 404
14:38:54  <travismcelfresh>now getting 404
14:39:04  <travismcelfresh>which is much better I must say… but…
14:40:31  <yawnt>jeez.. i want to get a parrot
14:40:40  <yawnt>then use facial recognition to make it hover over my shoulder
14:40:43  <yawnt>get it? Parrot?
14:40:44  <dmitri>404 error
14:40:55  <mmalecki>travismcelfresh: I need username and username
14:41:04  <mmalecki>er, username and appname
14:41:33  <travismcelfresh>a custom nodejitsu 404
14:42:07  <mmalecki>hm, it doesn't look like it's started...
14:42:08  <mmalecki>starting
14:44:18  <pksunkara>yawnt: what was AWESOME?
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14:45:13  <yawnt>pksunkara: parrot drone
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14:47:18  <dmitri>mmalecki: i still have 404 on my app
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14:49:59  <travismcelfresh>dmitri - a redeploy was the only thing that fixed it for me
14:50:46  <mmalecki>folks, looks like we're running out of servers
14:50:51  <mmalecki>I'm spawning new ones
14:50:57  <mmalecki>hold on tight
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14:53:44  <travismcelfresh>Now getting connection refused errors….holding tight. :-(
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14:56:30  <dmitri>travismcelfresh: redeploy doesn't help, also holding tight :)
14:56:36  <jeffrg>so i just deployed an app, it started okay, but now i'm getting a 404 app now found error for www.coordel.com. the domains entry exists in my package.json
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14:56:53  <jeffrg>the app is coordel-app
14:57:20  <yawnt>back
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14:57:58  <Fishrock123>They are a little low on servers, mmalecki post here a couple mins ago he was spawning new ones to take the load.
14:58:16  <hernamesbarbara>Are there any tutorials which explore logging best practices using Winston with Nodejitsu? More specifically, I'm keen to learn (a) how/when to use custom log levels, (b) how best to structure your logfile(s), and (c) how to deploy an app using proper logging configurations to production using nodejitsu.
14:58:17  <Fishrock123>^ CC jeffrg
14:58:35  <jeffrg>fishrock123 thx
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15:12:42  <jeffrg>mmalecki any news on the server situation?
15:12:50  * hernamesbarbarapart
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15:13:25  <mmalecki>jeffrg: yup, new ones should be up in a minute
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15:13:40  <jeffrg>mmalecki great, thanks
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15:21:39  <mmalecki>new servers are up
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15:22:56  <Fishrock123>Thankee. :3
15:23:09  <mmalecki>pleasure :)
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15:23:58  <yawnt>lol
15:24:03  <yawnt>300K people expected outside
15:24:09  <yawnt>i have no clue how we're going to get out
15:24:55  <mmalecki>yawnt: drones.
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15:25:11  <yawnt>lol
15:25:27  <yawnt>tweet it
15:26:02  <mmalecki>here
15:26:20  <yawnt>haha
15:26:29  <yawnt>you should've /cc @felixge
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15:26:52  <yawnt>AvianFlu: buy the nodejsconf.it ticket
15:26:53  <yawnt>NAO
15:26:58  <yawnt>i guess he's asleep though
15:26:59  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: DO IT
15:27:08  <yawnt>lol
15:27:15  <yawnt>mmalecki: do you know what is Brescia famous for?
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15:27:23  <mmalecki>yawnt: no idea
15:27:25  <yawnt>wine. 'nuff said.
15:27:33  <mmalecki>do want.
15:27:38  <AvianFlu>yawnt: is brescia up in the piedmont somewhere?
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15:27:50  <yawnt>AvianFlu: same region as Milan
15:27:56  <AvianFlu>word
15:27:57  <yawnt>Piemonte is where Turin is
15:28:05  <yawnt>but yeah.. around there
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15:28:19  <AvianFlu>word
15:28:23  <yawnt>you coming? D:
15:28:28  <yawnt>10 november
15:28:41  <AvianFlu>no, I'll probably be back in SF by then
15:28:52  <yawnt>can't you fly?
15:28:58  <yawnt>:°°(
15:30:18  <yawnt>AvianFlu: stay at my house after node dublin, til nodejsconf.it
15:30:20  <yawnt>then you fly back
15:30:20  <yawnt>:D
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15:30:31  <AvianFlu>yeah but here's the thing
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15:30:38  <AvianFlu>I have to go from dublin to empire.js two days later XD
15:30:43  <yawnt>oh
15:30:46  <yawnt>FINE
15:30:50  <yawnt>WE DON'T NEED YOU
15:30:56  <AvianFlu>and then there's other stuff to do in NY the week after
15:30:57  * yawntturns around and sobs
15:31:01  <AvianFlu>that I have to be around for
15:31:09  <yawnt>yeah i get it
15:31:12  <yawnt>that's a shame though
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15:36:42  <yawnt>i don't agree
15:36:52  <yawnt>people who don't like js should talk
15:36:57  <yawnt>it shows a different point of view
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15:36:59  <yawnt>it's always cool
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15:37:45  <AvianFlu>I closed the live stream when I heard "fix javascript by..."
15:38:03  <yawnt>lol
15:38:11  <yawnt>js does need some fixes, that's undeniable
15:38:14  <yawnt>but what doesn't?
15:38:16  <AvianFlu>compiling something else into JS isn't smart
15:38:21  <yawnt>true
15:38:24  <AvianFlu>too much extra complexity
15:38:32  <AvianFlu>and it's not like you end up with assembly
15:38:35  <yawnt>but with maps coming up and stuff
15:38:36  <AvianFlu>you end up with goddamn JS
15:38:50  <yawnt>there really is no difference betweek plain js and languages compiling in your js
15:39:01  <yawnt>*into js
15:39:31  <generali_>godwin's javascript law: every discussion about javascript will eventually turn into a coffeescript debate.
15:39:45  <yawnt>we ain't talking about coffeescript
15:39:51  <terite>now you are
15:39:55  <yawnt>no
15:39:55  <generali_>lol
15:39:57  <yawnt>NO
15:39:58  <yawnt>NOOOO
15:40:01  <generali_>self-fulfilling prophecy
15:40:02  <Fishrock123>lol
15:40:02  * yawntfalls down the cliff
15:40:18  <terite>SO I heard you like semicolons
15:40:47  <generali_>http://fartlang.org/
15:41:27  <terite>Is it prone to code smells?
15:41:29  * dmitripart
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15:42:16  <generali_>http://sweetjs.org/ have you seen this?
15:42:24  <generali_>this has to be the worst idea i've ever read
15:42:38  <mmalecki>I... what?!
15:42:39  <generali_>as one of my friends put it: "do you know javascript? now you don't!"
15:42:44  <mmalecki>yawnt: you're at the talk?
15:42:50  <yawnt>mmalecki: yeah
15:42:56  <yawnt>mmalecki: where you at?
15:43:07  <mmalecki>yawnt: back, I need stable wifi
15:43:22  <yawnt>k
15:43:25  <yawnt>you what?
15:43:36  <yawnt>generali_: macros are actually super useful
15:43:45  <yawnt>but that's just sad in the case of sweetjs
15:44:10  <yawnt>those are just faked macros
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15:44:14  <generali_>i'm sure they are, but i shudder at the thought of stumbling into having to maintain or add a feature to someone else's sweetjs-ridden code
15:44:35  <yawnt>it's the same with coffeescript, roy, and a lot of other languages
15:44:53  <yawnt>mmalecki: btw wifi has become pretty stable now..
15:44:53  <generali_>coffeescript is at least its own standard syntax
15:45:08  <yawnt>so does sweet
15:45:14  <yawnt>it's just that CS is way more famous
15:45:28  <yawnt>coffeescript too does add stuff that doesn't exist in JS
15:45:33  <generali_>no sweet has you defining your own language additions
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15:45:39  <generali_>that's what i mean
15:46:04  <yawnt>wat
15:46:05  <yawnt>where?
15:46:31  <generali_>those macros aren't built-in
15:46:37  <generali_>it's for defining macros
15:46:54  <yawnt>that's the whole point in macros :|
15:47:12  <generali_>i'm just saying i fear how that would be used
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15:47:36  <generali_>i picture self-proclaimed hotshots right out of school being like "wow look how much cooler i made javascript"
15:47:40  <generali_>and writing shit in that
15:47:41  <yawnt>yeah well
15:47:46  <generali_>and then me having to come maintain it
15:47:46  <yawnt>that was the problem with common lisp
15:47:50  <yawnt>macro system was so powerful
15:48:03  <yawnt>that basically everyone had its own personal flavoured CL
15:48:09  <yawnt>you just need to be careful
15:48:25  <generali_>i just happen to know a dipshit who would do that
15:48:30  <generali_>make his own js variant
15:48:57  <generali_>and write nothing but that for clients, get fired, and then i'd have his clients banging down my door asking me to rescue them from hell
15:49:13  <yawnt>lol
15:50:21  <generali_>at least if he was writing vanilla js when he inevitably got fired, i wouldn't have to go unravel a bunch of terrible macros
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16:18:22  <gedex>Hi
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16:18:51  <gedex>anyone can help with error deployment?
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16:19:28  <yawnt>what's up?
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16:20:49  <gedex>@yawnt I got error during jitsu deploy, possibly from node-canvas. But I got successful deployment before. Here's the log https://gist.github.com/b164c72e7eac13f32df1
16:21:50  <porsager>I get an error on jitsu deploy where NPM install failed for node-v0.8.6
16:22:01  <AvianFlu>porsager: gist please
16:22:49  <porsager>https://gist.github.com/3804500
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16:23:55  <AvianFlu>okay, give me just a minute
16:24:24  <porsager>thanks :) i tried to change the engine from 0.8.x to 0.6.x in the package.json but no difference.
16:25:42  <AvianFlu>this is something on our end with the build server or network, give us a few minutes and we'll figure it out
16:26:01  <gedex>@AvianFlu thanks
16:27:19  <porsager>thank you AvianFlu
16:29:54  <feklee>Why is Nodejitsu still so unreliable? Today, first deployment didn't work, then starting. Now everythings suddenly works.
16:30:06  <feklee>And I've had similar issues in the past as well.
16:30:24  <mmalecki>because we ran out of servers and nobody noticed :-)
16:30:31  <feklee>Once an app was down for a week or so, without me noticing it. Fortunately, nothing important.
16:31:02  <feklee>mmalecki: But you should get these issues sorted out when you start charging for the service.
16:31:05  <AvianFlu>gedex: porsager: try again, if you don't mind
16:31:18  <gedex>@AvianFlu sure, wait a sec
16:31:55  <mmalecki>feklee: we're enabling automatic spawning during billing roll out
16:32:19  <porsager>on it.
16:33:06  <gedex>AvianFlu: same error
16:33:55  <porsager>same error here as well
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16:38:27  <AvianFlu>gedex: porsager: I figured it out
16:38:38  <AvianFlu>node-gyp is trying to download the header files from nodejs.org
16:38:43  <AvianFlu>which is currently not working >.<
16:38:48  <AvianFlu>http://nodejs.org
16:39:01  <porsager>ah. i see :P
16:39:19  <AvianFlu>I'm not completely sure of a workaround
16:39:25  <yawnt>was nodejs.org down?
16:39:30  <AvianFlu>using 0.8.x instead of a specific version might do it
16:40:18  <gedex>AvianFlu: already used 0.8.x
16:40:27  <porsager>don't you mean the other way around ?
16:40:28  <AvianFlu>yeah, I figured
16:40:36  <mmalecki>nice.
16:40:44  <AvianFlu>I'm not sure what can be done here, really
16:40:46  <mmalecki>yeah, that won't work now :<
16:40:48  <AvianFlu>any ideas mmalecki?
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16:40:54  <mmalecki>unless we do /etc/hosts
16:40:57  <mmalecki>on build server
16:41:02  <AvianFlu>yeah, lol, find the ip
16:41:04  <mmalecki>and point it to our host
16:41:06  <AvianFlu>sounds like a plan
16:41:16  <AvianFlu>just get the ip of the nodejs.org server
16:41:26  <porsager>out of interests is npm update run at each deploy ?
16:41:29  <AvianFlu>it should work fine from there
16:41:41  <AvianFlu>porsager: npm install, not update
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16:43:49  <mmalecki_>AvianFlu: pm me the build server IP would you?
16:44:04  <mmalecki_>I lost it, my iterm crashed
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16:47:01  <mmalecki_>okay, I'm aliasing nodejs.org to www.nodejs.org
16:47:20  <mmalecki_>I'll submit a pull request to node-gyp to change things a bit
16:47:46  <AvianFlu>cool
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16:49:26  <mmalecki_>nodejs.org is back up
16:49:31  <mmalecki_>compiled deps should be fine
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16:51:30  <porsager>sorry, but i'm still getting the same error
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16:51:38  <gedex>me too
16:51:49  <porsager>nodejs.org doesn't look up to me
16:52:23  <gedex>nodejs.org is live on my end
16:52:43  <porsager>ok.. i get a namecheap splashpage
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17:01:20  <mmalecki_>OH SHIT
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17:01:25  <mmalecki_>domain might have expired
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17:01:32  <porsager>yeah looks like it
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17:02:16  <porsager>Expiration Date:29-Sep-2013 14:50:55 UTC
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17:03:55  <mmalecki_>I /etc/hosts'd dat, can you guys give it a try?
17:04:12  <mmalecki_>worked fine for me
17:06:49  <porsager>what worked for you ?
17:06:57  <porsager>the 8.12.44.238 ip is for nodejs.org if it's any help
17:07:41  <mmalecki_>wait, rolling out a second fix
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17:17:59  <AvianFlu>porsager: gedex: should be reliably fixed now
17:18:29  <porsager>that's great. Thanks a lot - trying now
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17:19:41  <porsager>it says on your website that paid plans will be available next month. Do you have a closer date on that?
17:20:12  <gedex>AvianFlue: mmalecki_: I confirm it works now. Thanks guys!
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17:20:23  <porsager>working here as well
17:20:31  <mmalecki><3
17:20:36  <AvianFlu>yeah this was a pretty hilarious bug to have to fix XD
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17:21:27  <porsager>we would like to go into production with our service within 2-3 weeks. Will nodejitsu be ready for that?
17:22:36  <gedex>AvianFlu: what was happening? was it node-gyp issue?
17:23:00  <AvianFlu>gedex: when node-gyp runs, it downloads the header files it needs from nodejs.org
17:23:08  <AvianFlu>which was no longer pointing to where the header files were
17:23:14  <AvianFlu>hence, compiled deps would fail
17:25:02  <gedex>AvianFlue: ok, thanks
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18:18:05  <Sly>LOLOL
18:18:09  <Sly>Oh man. That's great.
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19:52:59  <Nodejitsu-Github>[director/master] Fixes #45 - Travis Paul
19:52:59  <Nodejitsu-Github>[director/master] Merge pull request #149 from TravisPaul/master - Pavan Kumar Sunkara
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20:49:26  <Nodejitsu-Github>[haibu/master] [minor] Make the error message for "no matching engines found" more human-readable/helpful - Joshua Holbrook
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21:01:03  <doubletap>I keep getting this in the log: [Error: no open connections]. Anyone know what that is about?
21:02:58  <doubletap>also, my non www seems to be dying at nodejitsu all the sudden.
21:03:08  <doubletap>i am getting some connection refused stuff.
21:04:21  <doubletap>i have both the non-www and the www in my package.json
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21:07:23  <doubletap>i just got a bad deploy error too https://gist.github.com/3805187
21:07:28  <jesusabdullah>let me look
21:07:50  <jesusabdullah>okay, I'll put that machine in quarantine
21:09:02  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: what does putting that machine in quarantine mean? What should I expect from that?
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21:09:27  <jesusabdullah>it means that machine won't be in the pool
21:09:34  <jesusabdullah>so hopefully that particular error is gone
21:10:05  <doubletap>deploy just worked.
21:10:35  <doubletap>but i still have that dns issue. i cant see what the real error is though because chrome is masking it somehow.
21:10:56  <jesusabdullah>what's the dns issue?
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21:11:08  <doubletap>Error 102 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED): The server refused the connection.
21:11:20  <jesusabdullah>what's the url you're trying to visit?
21:11:36  <doubletap>now here is the freaky part (at least from my perspective), it works fine in safari but not in chrome or chromium.
21:11:48  <jesusabdullah>so what url are you trying to visit?
21:12:11  <doubletap>http://tagalong.io
21:12:21  <doubletap>FF is fine too.
21:12:23  <doubletap>stupid crhome.
21:12:29  <jesusabdullah>what about the .jit.su domain?
21:12:38  <jesusabdullah>works in chrome for me
21:12:44  <doubletap>that works fine.
21:12:54  <jesusabdullah>perhaps your dns records haven't fully resolved
21:12:55  <doubletap>my dns is funky here then i gues.
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21:13:05  <jesusabdullah>sounds likely to me doubletap
21:13:06  <doubletap>thank you for that
21:13:19  <jesusabdullah>you're welcome
21:13:22  <jesusabdullah>I do what I can
21:13:32  <doubletap>:) as long as my users can get there.
21:15:40  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: fyi, i went here and cleared the cache in chrome and it worked chrome://net-internals/#dns
21:16:29  <doubletap>i lied
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21:18:37  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: ok, check this out. i am getting this error every time i hit my server with chrome: [Error: no open connections]
21:19:34  <doubletap>but that is only on tagalong.io and not on www.tagalong.io
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21:28:42  <doubletap>I just got another but different deploy error
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21:29:32  <doubletap>here is the new deploy error https://gist.github.com/3805225
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21:32:40  <doubletap>something is definitely up with chrome on the non www of my domain. other users in totally different locations are suddenly experiencing the connection refused error also.
21:33:07  <doubletap>ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED (-102)
21:33:45  <coderarity>yawnt: hi
21:34:02  <yawnt>sup coderarity :D
21:34:15  <doubletap>do deploys are failing and connections are being refused.
21:34:38  <coderarity>doubletap: what's your domain?
21:34:46  <doubletap>tagalong.io
21:35:16  <jesusabdullah>I'll check out your last deploy
21:35:29  <doubletap>one is running now and it looks like it might finish.
21:36:04  <doubletap>ok, i got one to finish.
21:36:43  <doubletap>but i am still getting [Error: no open connections] in the logs and ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED (-102) on the non www of my domain.
21:36:45  <coderarity>i can access the site, and DNS works
21:36:56  <jesusabdullah>the logs could very well be an issue with loggly
21:37:06  <jesusabdullah>coderarity: can you try reading logs from a test app?
21:37:09  <doubletap>did you do http://tagalong.io and not the www?
21:37:20  <coderarity>i did both
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21:38:00  <doubletap>dang it, i just had two people get the same error as me. one in texas and the other in chicago
21:38:42  <doubletap>one on bell, I am on sbc, and the chicago guy is on some cable company.
21:38:46  <jesusabdullah>last box looks like it had memory issues, should be better
21:38:58  <coderarity>i'm in texas
21:39:10  <coderarity>suddenlink though
21:39:25  <jesusabdullah>Try hitting the route with curl -i maybe
21:39:35  <doubletap>i wonder is someting happened and messed people up that were accessing it at that moment.
21:39:39  <doubletap>k
21:39:51  <doubletap>well, that is the thing, it works in everything but chrome.
21:40:01  <coderarity>you're not going to belive this- logs worked
21:40:18  <coderarity>lol sberryman is right the logs are backwards :\
21:40:38  <jesusabdullah>coderarity: fix that in jitsu?
21:40:49  <coderarity>yeah
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21:45:08  <coderarity>probably just terrible caches that will fix themselves soon
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22:51:55  <ranman>yo node peeps
22:52:09  <Fishrock123>Sup?
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23:03:00  <anoemi>musicalrunner: heyy!
23:03:03  <musicalrunner>hi
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23:05:51  <AvianFlu>musicalrunner: can you paste your package.json file into gist.github.com and link it to us?
23:06:16  <musicalrunner>yeah hold on one sec
23:07:05  <musicalrunner>https://gist.github.com/3805390
23:07:23  <musicalrunner>i'm just using express (and by extension jade)...no other dependencies
23:07:44  <AvianFlu>okay
23:07:49  <AvianFlu>change 'node app' to 'node app.js'
23:08:01  <AvianFlu>in the scripts.start
23:13:08  <musicalrunner>ok
23:14:00  <musicalrunner>ah it worked!
23:14:08  <musicalrunner>thanks!
23:14:12  <AvianFlu>no problem
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23:36:06  <mikeschinkel>Getting an "Error running command users confirm mikeschinkel …." UNABLE_TO_VERIFY_LEAF_SIGNATURE
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23:37:54  <coderarity>mikeschinkel: what node version?
23:38:09  <mikeschinkel>v0.9.2
23:38:16  <coderarity>mikeschinkel: you should use 0.8.11
23:38:41  <coderarity>0.9.x has broken SSL stuff
23:38:49  <mikeschinkel>Ugh. This'll be about the 5th version I've had to compile and build trying to get jistsu to install. :-(
23:38:58  <coderarity>mikeschinkel: compiling from source?
23:39:03  <mikeschinkel>yes
23:39:20  <coderarity>mikeschinkel: yeah, just git checkout v0.8.11 && ./configure && make install
23:39:30  <coderarity>do it all at once :P
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23:40:31  <mikeschinkel>@coderarity By "all at once" do you mean something special besides one command after the other?
23:40:45  <ljharb>he means, hitting enter once
23:41:01  <coderarity>yeah, ^
23:41:04  <coderarity>it still goes one at a time
23:41:06  <mikeschinkel>@ljharb - Confused. Why does that matter?
23:41:13  <ljharb>for funsies?
23:41:20  <ljharb>it's pro style
23:41:23  <mikeschinkel>haha :)
23:41:32  <coderarity>i think you can make it use multiple cores
23:41:43  <coderarity>if you have a multicore laptop
23:41:57  <coderarity>worth looking into if your compiling a bunch probably
23:42:11  <mikeschinkel>I'm a pro at PHP, but I'm happy to get get systems things working. No need for pro here. :)
23:42:28  <coderarity>mikeschinkel: just `make -j 4` when you run make
23:42:48  <coderarity>and then compile way faster
23:42:49  <coderarity>and be happy
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23:42:51  <mikeschinkel>Do I need to rerun make -j 4?
23:42:55  <coderarity>no
23:43:16  <coderarity>do `make -j 4 && make install`
23:43:28  <mikeschinkel>While very experienced elsewhere, I'm a n00b at this. You guys are being *too* helpful. :-)
23:43:58  <coderarity>yeah, but only when you need to build
23:43:59  <mikeschinkel>Just start me at "Compiling Node 101" :-)
23:44:05  <coderarity>if you already built, it's cool
23:44:07  <Chris_>when using the node package manager to install jitsu, I get some odd errors near the end of the intallation.
23:44:08  <Chris_>Error: ENOTEMPTY, rmdir '/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/npm/html/api'
23:44:13  <mikeschinkel>Okay, built.
23:44:23  <Chris_>Error: No compatible version found: [email protected]'>=1.0.0- <1.1.0-'
23:44:33  <coderarity>oh my
23:44:35  <Chris_>Error: ENOENT, lstat '/usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu/node_modules/fstream-npm/node_modules/fstream-ignore/node_modules/minimatch/node_modules/lru-cache/.npmignore'
23:44:36  <AvianFlu>Chris_: run `sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/node_modules/jitsu`
23:44:52  <AvianFlu>then try again; also let us know what your node version is
23:44:57  <Chris_>I tried uninstalling it, but not removing the directory, one second.
23:45:40  <mikeschinkel>@coderarity @ljharb user confirm worked, thanks!
23:45:50  <coderarity>\o/
23:46:09  <Chris_>i'm running 0.6.18
23:46:54  <AvianFlu>I think you'll also need to update to 0.6.21 or 0.8
23:47:00  <Chris_>ok
23:47:01  <AvianFlu>because of a bug in read with those node versions
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23:48:03  <coderarity>you should use 0.8 i think
23:49:26  <coderarity>according to mfncooper anyways
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23:58:09  <mikeschinkel>Got my first node app deployed. Curious about how Nodejitsu handles the listen() args? On my local machine they set the port and IP address I think, does Nodejitsu reroute or something?
23:58:34  <AvianFlu>any port you listen on, we'll load-balance over port 80 to that
23:58:38  <mikeschinkel>If you have a URL to an article I can read about it.
23:58:41  <AvianFlu>so externally, you'll always use 80
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23:59:02  <AvianFlu>but otherwise, listen on whatever port you'd like
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23:59:26  <mikeschinkel>Ah, cool. Thanks.