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00:28:29  * blakmatrixtopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud status: Nodejitsu cloud operating properly (deploys and running applications are up). Due to AWS outage: some databases provisioned from our DB providers might be acting slow/not working, `jitsu install` might fail (public npm registry down)
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00:34:10  * blakmatrixtopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. || Cloud status: Nodejitsu cloud operating properly || Due to AWS outage: some databases provisioned from our DB providers might be acting slow/not working
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00:48:28  <Sovik>Hi
00:49:23  <Sly>Hello, Sovik
00:50:12  <Sovik>I have registered a domain and I want to host my web app on Individual Plan - Regular $11 / month.
00:50:45  <Sly>Awesome. Glad to hear it.
00:51:15  <Sly>If you're looking information for how to set it up, you can find it here: http://dns.jit.su/
00:51:17  <Sovik> Can you please provide the the details regarding 1. amount of space, 2. number of email ids that I can create with the plan and 3. amount of email server space for this plan
00:51:37  <Sly>1) 5GB per drone, 2) we don't provide email service.
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00:53:52  <Sovik>So what must I don in order to receive support mails from my users?
00:54:07  <Sovik>So what must I do in order to receive support mails from my users?
00:54:50  <Sly>You can probably find an email provider with an API that you can use in your application.
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01:05:52  <Sovik>I am using MongoDB as my database, do you support that?
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01:10:42  <Sovik> I am using MongoDB as my database, Is it supported?
01:10:48  <coderarity>yes
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01:20:11  <jesusabdullah>if you can connect to it sovik we support it (generally)
01:20:37  <jesusabdullah>we can't like teach you how to connect to it but in general we have no reason to block outgoing tcp access
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01:48:13  <deoxxa>hey mmalecki
01:48:14  <deoxxa>you alive
01:48:40  <deoxxa>yawnt[sleepha]: wake uuuuuup
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01:56:08  <jaha>Cant seem to navigate to my site, just spins, nothing in logs, works on local dev, recent issue
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01:57:48  <Sly>jaha, username/app name?
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02:10:12  <dnandez>Got this error, but it doesn't tell me what version wasn't found: Error running command deploy error: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error error: No matching versions found.
02:10:33  <Sly>dnandez, username and app name?
02:10:41  <dnandez>dnandez
02:10:47  <dnandez>saml-oauth-token
02:10:49  <dnandez>sorry
02:10:54  <dnandez>saml-oauth-proxy
02:10:57  <Sly>No problem. :)
02:12:07  <Sly>Hm. I'm not seeing a 500 error from a drone. Can you gist the full error? http://gist.github.com
02:12:57  <dnandez>git://gist.github.com/3936273.git
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02:14:03  <Sly>Okay. Can you gist your package.json too?
02:15:43  <dnandez>added to existing gist
02:16:01  <Sly>Thanks.
02:16:27  <Sly>Alright, in your `"engines": { "node": "latest" }`
02:16:31  <Sly>Use 0.8.x
02:17:04  <Sly>Or even `>=0.8.x`
02:17:08  <dnandez>sounds reasonable
02:17:34  <Sly>Also, in your dependencies..
02:17:39  <Sly>If you want the latest version, use *.. not latest.
02:18:26  <dnandez>yeah. I haven't thought that much about those yet
02:18:39  <dnandez>got this working locally, but couldn't get it to work on heroku
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02:18:48  <dnandez>having a similar error here with my rsa dependency
02:19:12  <Sly>Yeah, it's because "latest" isn't a version of that dependency.
02:19:20  <Sly>* is used for "latest".
02:20:05  <Sly>Fixing those should let you deploy
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02:21:22  <dnandez>KK. I tried that, and I modified the gist to show new errors and the current package.json
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02:21:29  <dnandez>stil can't deploy
02:21:41  <Sly>At least you got further. :)
02:21:48  <Sly>Let me look over this new gist.
02:21:59  <dnandez>had to install from source and rebuild node-waf to get this library to work locally
02:22:17  <dnandez>rebuild a binding file using node-waf
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02:31:26  <Sly>Okay, dnandez.
02:31:36  <Sly>The RSA module you're trying to compile appears to be trying to compile for a 64-bit system.
02:31:48  <Sly>Our drones are 32-bit.
02:34:35  <dnandez>that sounds pretty intractable
02:35:02  <Sly>What exactly is it doing anyway?
02:35:03  <dnandez>are you aware of any node hosting service I could use to build this, or do I need to host it or use aws?
02:35:08  <Sly>Node provides RSA through OpenSSL.
02:35:18  <Sly>https://gist.github.com/4b136327b51855ee8e4e
02:35:22  <Sly>Put together an example for you.
02:36:04  <dnandez>specifically I need to be able to decrypt something
02:36:10  <dnandez>encrypted with RSAES-OAEP
02:36:31  <dnandez>which is what xbox uses within their saml for authentication
02:36:37  <Sly>Ah.
02:38:37  <dnandez>yeah, maybe kind of a stretch then
02:39:32  <dnandez>I'm not really looking to get that deep into changing this library to work, or hosting it myself
02:39:44  <Sly>I'm not even sure it's supported on Node > 0.6.
02:39:50  <dnandez>I just wanted to try out node, since it has mixed feelings at our company
02:40:02  <dnandez>yeah I read the issues, and someone said it works
02:40:10  <dnandez>I'd be willing to use a lower version
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02:40:41  <dnandez>thanks for your help
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02:41:17  <Sly>No problem. I don't even see where that ELF is being set at in the .cc code.
02:41:27  <Sly>set/used
02:41:36  <dnandez>hmm
02:42:22  <dnandez>anyway. Do you have any other service you recommend. I have written very little, so I'm happy enough to use another framework like Sinatra/rails if necessary
02:42:56  <Sly>Well, it's not the framework you're using. It's just that one module that's not building properly.
02:43:08  <Sly>Which is why I was asking why you didn't use crypto instead.
02:43:49  <dnandez>yeah
02:44:13  <dnandez>it's not a particularly common library that I need
02:44:43  <dnandez>so it seems like finding a working one has become the hardest part of this project
02:44:47  <Sly>Actually, dnandez. It looks like RSAES-OAEP is part of PKCS1. It may be supported on crypto.
02:44:54  <Sly>Have you asked any of the #Node.js guys?
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02:45:21  <Sly>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKCS1#Schemes
02:45:33  <dnandez>No. I'm pretty new to this scene, so I'm not sure where the best place to get help is
02:45:46  <dnandez>a lot of my colleagues are about timed out on this project of mine
02:46:37  <Sly>I would ask some people in #Node.js if they know of an alternative to that module, either crypto or maybe another module that you can compile on i386.
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02:47:39  <dnandez>ok thanks a lot for the advice. You've been superhelpful. If I get it to work I'll host it here
02:51:06  <flybyme>on flatiron.App what event is the server listening event?
02:51:12  <Sly>No problem. It's what I'm here for. Hopefully you can find an alternative. I can't think of any off the top of my head, though.
02:51:27  <Sly>flybyme, whenever you do `app.start(8080)`..
02:51:37  <Sly>Use `app.start(8080, function() { console.log('listening'); });
02:51:56  <flybyme>thanks forgot about that
02:52:08  <Sly>No problem.
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03:00:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] flatiron/flatiron#172 (master - 3d07c61 : Pavan Kumar Sunkara): The build was fixed.
03:00:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/flatiron/compare/e44450a4e3c0...3d07c616fb88
03:00:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/flatiron/builds/2894285
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03:30:00  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here?
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03:41:35  <deoxxa>nope
03:41:38  <deoxxa>i'm hungry
03:41:43  <Sly>Aw.
03:41:55  <deoxxa>i expect this to be rectified
03:41:56  <deoxxa>now
03:42:15  <Sly>`jitsu deploy deoxxa/food`
03:42:20  <Sly>lulz
03:44:44  <deoxxa>http://i.qkme.me/3rgptf.jpg
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03:46:22  <Sly>ROFL
03:46:50  <deoxxa>(it's a bad drone)
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03:55:39  <Sly>How have you been, deoxxa?
03:55:44  <Sly>Haven't talked to you in a few days.
03:56:26  <deoxxa>not bad, just busy and stuff
03:56:42  <deoxxa>my boss is booking all my flights at the moment :3
03:56:58  <Sly>Ugh. Flying.
03:57:04  <Sly>It's for the birds, and they can have it.
03:57:27  <Sly>Unless it's to get off of this planet, I don't intend on flying. Getting off the planet is a risk worth taking, though.
03:57:43  <deoxxa>ha
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07:27:12  <nlognbob>Are you experiencing connectivity issues?
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07:28:22  <nlognbob>If a route to you passes through border10.pc2-bbnet2.wdc002.pnap.net it fails, but if it passes through border10.pc1-bbnet1.wdc002.pnap.net it works. Or at least that is my experience doing traceroutes from two hosts
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07:42:18  <nlognbob>Anybody have information on the network connectivity issue with Joyent?
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07:49:06  <jesusabdullah>connectivity issue nlognbob ?
07:49:20  <jesusabdullah>I'm not aware of any pnaps?
07:49:27  <jesusabdullah>like, I don't recognize that url
07:49:44  <jesusabdullah>afaik joyent has been happily puttering along
07:49:52  <jesusabdullah>AWS was being a turd again but, y'know
07:49:55  <jesusabdullah>that's aws
07:50:06  <booyaa>nlognbob: might be npmjs related
07:50:34  <booyaa>if you've got module deps, twitter seem to think npmjs was hosted on aws ec
07:50:53  <booyaa>where as ruby equivalent wasn't oddly enough
07:51:11  <booyaa>wou;d've thought rubists woul;d've stuck it on heroku which is aws dependant
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07:54:55  <Sly>booyaa, the AWS stuff should be fixed by now. Loggly is back online, and so is Github.
07:55:15  <deoxxa>github was offline? :o
07:55:26  <Sly>They were for a little while.
07:55:47  <deoxxa>i'm glad i never noticed
07:55:50  <nlognbob>traceroutes to nodejitsu fail from some hosts, like the one I need to deploy from
07:55:52  <deoxxa>i would have been all HNNNNNNGGG
07:55:53  <Sly>Then when they got it back up, the status page was still showing part of it down.
07:56:13  <nlognbob>the problem seems to be an upstream provider of JOyent very close to joyent, at least that is what I think by comparing traceroutes
07:56:31  <coderarity>it could just be a bad route
07:56:57  <nlognbob>do you know how long it takes for bad routes to resolve?
07:57:34  <jesusabdullah>http://www.internap.com/
07:57:39  <jesusabdullah>pnap.net redirects there
07:57:45  <jesusabdullah>looks like they own datacenters
07:57:51  <jesusabdullah>they probably own us-east-1
07:58:00  <jesusabdullah>or something crazy like that
07:58:00  <coderarity>i think it depends
07:58:07  <yawnt>i think they're actually an indian company jesusabdullah
07:58:16  <nlognbob>tata?
07:58:44  <jesusabdullah>now that's interesting
07:59:01  <nlognbob>well, I guess this isn't taking out most customers, otherwise there'd be more squawking
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07:59:21  <Sly>nlognbob, you're the first person with this problem that I know of.
07:59:28  <nlognbob>lucky me!
07:59:48  <nlognbob>I blame it on AWS because if my comparison of traceroutes is right the problem is in the WAshignton DC area
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08:00:14  <booyaa>nlognbob: just outta interest which host you tracerouting too?
08:00:17  <Sly>There may be another AWS server down, then. From what I picked up today, the AWS server that was down earlier was in Virginia.
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08:00:37  <Sly>So it's a very likely possibility they're doing some kind of major maintenance to servers? No clue.
08:00:38  <coderarity>Sly: virginia borders washington DC, though
08:00:52  <jesusabdullah>was it jus tone server? I'd imagine it would be like a wal*mart of running servers at least
08:00:56  <Sly>Oh, shit. I didn't see *DC*
08:00:58  <nlognbob>traceroute to www.nodejitsu.com (165.225.130.238)
08:00:58  <Sly>I just saw Washington.
08:01:00  <jesusabdullah>and a huge chunk of them must've been shitting themselves
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08:01:28  <nlognbob>I also can't get to joyent.com
08:01:43  <nlognbob>same route, no surprise I guess
08:01:48  <booyaa>ooer i go through pnap too
08:01:48  <Sly>nlognbob, try doing a traceroute to api.nodejitsu.com instead. That's the server Jitsu uses for the API.
08:01:52  <Sly>And post a gist of it.
08:01:55  <Sly>http://gist.github.com
08:02:06  <jesusabdullah>probably same issue, all the boxes are in the same DC
08:02:25  <Sly>So AWS has a center in VA and DC?
08:02:55  <booyaa>interesting i get the same
08:03:05  <booyaa>nlognbob: where's your net connection?
08:03:14  <nlognbob>one that works (from a host in Los Angles) for reference: https://gist.github.com/3937536
08:03:16  <booyaa>i'm running mine off a vps on my hosting providing 34sp.com
08:03:41  <booyaa>mind you traceroute can go dead
08:03:50  <booyaa>doesn't mean no connectivyt
08:03:55  <nlognbob>and from san francisco, fails. https://gist.github.com/3937540
08:03:59  <booyaa>just they don't want those packets going through
08:04:21  <coderarity>Sly: i think it's in VA, but close to DC
08:04:25  <nlognbob>well, neither ping nor http goes through either, so it might as well be dead
08:04:59  <nlognbob>Isn't 20% of the internet in Aburn VA just north of the airport (just kidding, but that is a huge concentration)
08:05:01  <booyaa>lazyweb what's the quickest api call i can make using curl?
08:05:35  <booyaa>dont know if i'm justing muddying the waters here, but this is my gist for traceroute to api.nodejitsu: https://gist.github.com/3937542
08:06:42  <jesusabdullah>Sly: us-east-1 is near blacksburg I think, which is in virginia, but DC is vaguely nearby and probably has a big telco hub nearby
08:06:43  <nlognbob>well, this more for nerd fun than anything, but border10.pc2-bbnet2.wdc002.pnap.net seems to be in all 3 routes, but it appears to not route packets from its connection to xo.net
08:06:49  <Sly>If that's the traceroute..
08:06:54  <Sly>It doesn't look like it's even making it out of the box.
08:07:12  <jesusabdullah>http://www.xo.com/
08:07:16  <coderarity>nlognbob: does pathping show anything weird?
08:07:18  <jesusabdullah>a Toronto isp?
08:07:20  <jesusabdullah>wth
08:08:06  <coderarity>jesusabdullah: blacksburg is near Virginia Tech, it's on the other side of the state from DC
08:08:19  <jesusabdullah>coderarity: "vaguely"
08:08:32  <booyaa>right i'm going to log a call with my isp
08:08:42  <booyaa>i've got another host i think it's still uk based
08:08:47  <booyaa>let me do a trace route for comparison
08:09:08  <nlognbob>I don't seem to have pathping installed, never have used it
08:09:08  <booyaa>because on 34sp (the one that still goes through api.nodejitsu.com) this curl goes nowhere: curl http://api.nodejitsu.com/users/new-nodejitsu-user/available
08:09:36  <nlognbob>just-ping.com shows good connectivity
08:11:26  <booyaa>man that's wild, my liondon hackspace shell account also goes through pnap https://gist.github.com/3937571
08:11:32  <nlognbob>Well,this maybe a good time to watch that old movie I've had on my list for months. No worries. Hopefully some network admin at xo or pnap will notice it and fix it by the time I'm finished.
08:11:35  <booyaa>but i reach api.nodejitsu.com
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08:12:41  <nlognbob>well, I'm just guessing but it would make sense that there are only 3-4 upstream providers for nodejitsu, so they would funnel through a handful of routers
08:13:44  <booyaa>you'd have thought if it sits on top of joyent stuff (hurr) you get the fringe bens unless of the nodejitsu stuff is ring fenced off
08:14:16  <nlognbob>I filed a ticket with Joyent directly because I can't reach www.joyent.com either
08:14:22  <booyaa>doh
08:14:35  <booyaa>yup movie time
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08:14:54  <nlognbob>yeah, thank everybody. movie time is right.
08:15:06  <jetienne>hey
08:16:32  <booyaa>right there is a fuzzy lookup calling my name
08:16:40  <booyaa>or at least a variant of my name
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08:48:08  <VLi>hi, does any nodejitsu person have time to peek my deployment problems described in https://nodejitsu.zendesk.com/requests/11752 - I added 10h ago --debug log ending with "Rackspace Error (404): Item not found"... now the error message has changed to " Script took too long to listen on a socket" ?
08:49:28  <jesusabdullah>looking now
08:50:27  <jesusabdullah>did you say you get a new error now?
08:50:45  <jesusabdullah>also if that was 10 hrs ago it could've been during the huge AWS outage that took out npm
08:50:51  <jesusabdullah>though that shouldn't have effected us
08:51:28  <jesusabdullah>the new error, VLi, means exactly that; your app gets something like 5 seconds from script start to start an http listener
08:51:51  <jesusabdullah>VLi: so if your app tries to spend five minutes doing something before firing up an http server we assume something is up
08:52:57  <jesusabdullah>VLi: the first set of errors makes me think something was weird with your deps or something
08:53:10  <jesusabdullah>VLi: I really really need to go to bed, unfortunately, but if you hit me up tomorrow I can help
08:53:38  <VLi>Ok
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09:01:17  <yawnt>hi
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09:05:45  <porsager>Hi.. i just got this error on deploy, it didn't come the second time i deployed, but thought you might want to know: https://gist.github.com/3937756
09:06:31  <coderarity>lol assembler messages
09:06:46  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: would https://github.com/sgentle/phantomjs-node work in nodejitsu?
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09:07:54  <coderarity>nah, we don't have phantomjs installed afaik
09:07:54  <coderarity>that would require webkit to be installed, which is a pretty big thing afaik
09:08:01  <porsager>Sly: i just got another socket hang up on deploy
09:11:12  <porsager>Sly: And now an "error spawning drone"
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09:11:28  <porsager> i'll just keep retrying until it works as usual
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10:12:57  <VLi>...wondering what outage is causing timeout for both https://webops.nodejitsu.com/ and command-line deploy ( Error: connect ETIMEDOUT)
10:14:17  <yawnt>VLi: it works fine for me
10:14:29  <yawnt>where are you located?
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11:10:36  <nlognbob>Nodejitsu is still not reachable from many locations. Use tool here: http://www.just-ping.com/index.php?vh=www.nodejitsu.com&c=&s=ping%21&vtt=1350990474&vhost=_&c=
11:11:20  <nlognbob>problem appears to be no route from certain core nodes at xo.net . verify problem here: http://xostats.xo.com/cgi-bin/xostats/diagtool-pub
11:16:07  <booyaa>man i really like that just-ping.com
11:18:01  <nlognbob>I like it too, especially when it says 100%
11:18:49  <nlognbob>i've found the problem, though. if xo.net can't route to nodejitsu.com, then when my isp hands packets to xo.net they just go into a black hole.
11:19:04  <nlognbob>Nice that xo.net provides a tool that lets me check this
11:19:35  <nlognbob>Now we just need somebody who can contact xo.net NOS and ask them to verify and repair
11:19:36  <booyaa>so xo are your isp's stream and preseumely xo in turn a linx/peer of pnap?
11:19:45  <nlognbob>yup
11:20:41  <nlognbob>joyent support seems to be of the opinion that if we wait long enough it will fix itself
11:20:55  <booyaa>meh
11:21:19  <nlognbob>funny say say "booyaa". I'm watching Blackhawk Down
11:21:23  <booyaa>:D
11:21:55  <booyaa>so do we think that tinet are prolly my isp (34sp)'s upstream to pnap? https://gist.github.com/3937542
11:21:58  <nlognbob>I'M UP. ROUTE RESTORED!!!!!
11:23:01  <booyaa>FUCK YEAH!
11:23:20  <booyaa>ME TOO!
11:23:26  <booyaa>fist bump bro!
11:23:56  <nlognbob>now I think border10.pc2-bbnet2.wdc002.pnap.net was not proprly advertising a route to xo, since you are using tinet.
11:24:07  <nlognbob>ditto for no route for tinet
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11:25:56  <booyaa>definitely worth noting for me that if i needed this fixed i'll need to get my isp to talk to tinet. cause these guys don't provide any form of free diagnostics compared to xo
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12:38:45  <pallinder>Stil having issues with logs?
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13:05:04  <booyaa>prolly not
13:05:18  <booyaa>i think nodejitsu use loggly?
13:05:27  <booyaa>in turn loggly is aws based
13:05:40  <booyaa>but aws is fixed now
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13:51:11  <tubbo>hey guys, does anyone here run a hubot on nodejitsu?
13:51:25  <tubbo>thinking of doing so after having some problems under heroku
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13:54:22  <yawnt[uni]>not really but if it doesnt have particular requirements
13:54:27  <yawnt[uni]>it should work well
13:54:36  <yawnt[uni]>just be sure to run an http server :)
13:54:45  <tubbo>yeah
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13:54:54  <tubbo>just wanted to know of any hurdles i may have to deal with
13:55:17  <yawnt[uni]>if you have problems
13:55:27  <yawnt[uni]>just ask here and we'll be happy to help ;)
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14:08:45  <tubbo>yawnt[uni]: thanks :)
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14:16:45  <tubbo>yawnt[uni]: so i can't run a nodejitsu app for free, indefinitely, right? it's just a 30 day trial?
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14:29:49  <yawnt>tubbo: hey
14:29:53  <yawnt>sorry i was in the bus going hom
14:29:57  <yawnt>*home
14:30:09  <yawnt>tubbo: yes, it's a 30 day trial
14:30:23  <yawnt>but our prices are really low ;)
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14:30:48  <tubbo>ah ok cool :)
14:31:02  <tubbo>yawnt: i'm having some trouble with `jitsu` though, keeps saying my package.json is missing required fields
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14:31:18  <yawnt>tubbo: yup, can you show me the ouput?
14:31:24  <yawnt>you can paste it here -> http://gist.github.com
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14:40:47  <tubbo>sure
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14:46:31  <tubbo>yawnt: https://gist.github.com/5c92eb4f1ccc1b76e477
14:48:18  <yawnt>tubbo: lookin
14:49:45  <yawnt>tubbo: can you change scripts.start ?
14:49:52  <yawnt>it should look like "node <file.js>"
14:50:03  <yawnt>where file.js is your main file.. server, app, etc :)
14:54:10  <tubbo>definitely
14:54:22  <tubbo>i am using hubot so it's actually a binary
14:54:33  <tubbo>i have access to /usr/bin/env right?
14:54:58  <yawnt>no, you need to have a js file
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14:55:29  <vekexasia1>hello
14:55:35  <yawnt>hi
14:55:38  <vekexasia1>lol
14:55:43  <yawnt>(or coffee)
14:55:49  <yawnt>vekexasia1: what? :D
14:55:52  <vekexasia1>I was asking why the database creation doesn't work
14:55:57  <vekexasia1>then I read the topic
14:56:00  <vekexasia1>lol
14:56:31  <vekexasia1>btw i've still another question about redis
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14:56:43  <vekexasia1>database creation. I read you use, as provider, redistogo
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14:56:51  <vekexasia1>Can I know which plan?
14:57:08  <yawnt>the free one
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14:57:22  <vekexasia1>hmm is there a way to create a redis database
14:57:31  <vekexasia1>with redistogo (not the free one ) ?
14:57:34  <yawnt>yes
14:57:43  <yawnt>go to redistogo.com, create an instance from there
14:57:48  <vekexasia1>ahah ok
14:57:51  <yawnt>and use it the same way you'd do with the free one
14:57:51  <yawnt>:)
14:58:06  <vekexasia1>i thought there were something like databases create redis blabla plan-name
14:58:13  <lpin>vekexasia1 i suggest you to go with openredis
14:58:15  <lpin>cheaper
14:58:25  <lpin>8$ for 50 mb
14:58:33  <vekexasia1>I need some redis provider which also provides backup
14:58:36  <vekexasia1>:)
14:58:42  <lpin>https://openredis.com/
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15:01:18  <vekexasia1>thanks for the tip lpin
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15:01:30  <lpin>vekexasia1 np
15:02:20  <yawnt>lpin: did you try it in the end
15:02:21  <yawnt>?
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15:03:51  <lpin>yawnt not yet
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15:03:58  <yawnt>lpin: kk
15:04:00  <lpin>still have 1 mb free on redistogo
15:04:07  <lpin>chatting with the guys right now tho
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15:08:07  <yawnt>yeah i met them too
15:08:08  <yawnt>nic eppl
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15:10:10  <pitschbr>How do we provision a paid Joyent server* through Nodejitsu? Alternatively if we are expected to provision separately through Joyent how do we associate our new paid Joyent Cloud server* with our Nodejitsu account?
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15:13:43  <vekexasia1>'ll give openredis a try
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15:22:36  <pitschbr>So far even now that we associated a credit card with our account I have been unable to get tech support through IRC or email form
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15:22:55  <vekexasia1>guys
15:23:03  <vekexasia1>best way to store database password?
15:23:08  <vekexasia1>env variables?
15:23:12  <lpin>vekexasia1 yes
15:23:28  <vekexasia1>is there something i can use with node start?
15:23:48  <vekexasia1>better, is there a bucket for node environment variables?
15:23:48  <lpin>you can use jitsu env
15:24:05  <vekexasia1>how to start locally then?
15:24:39  <lpin>what you mean?
15:25:02  <vekexasia1>meaning i'm developing an app
15:25:17  <Sly>vekexasia1, if you were to use environment variables for your password you can use something like..
15:25:18  <vekexasia1>i'd like to test it locally before deploying
15:25:21  <jkominar>hey all - is there a recommended alternative to hook.io that's still supported? I'm looking to build an app that will be deployed to multiple phys/virt servers that has some emailing responsibilities and requires some inter-instance master/slave type communication to ensure emails aren't sent out multiple times.
15:25:24  <Sly>PASSWORD="dbpassword" node server.js
15:25:43  <vekexasia1>hmm like it
15:25:47  <lpin>vekexasia1 set some env variables on local enviroment
15:25:52  <lpin>same thing on remote
15:26:18  <vekexasia1>Sly: package.json scripts->start right ?
15:26:29  <Sly>No, no. That's locally.
15:27:03  <Sly>If you want to run it on Nodejitsu like that, you should either 1) use Jitsu to set the env variables for the app, or 2) use webops.jit.su to set the environment variables for the app.
15:27:37  <Sly>I mean, you could always hard code it in with start.. but it's just more convenient to your sanity to do it that way.
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15:27:50  <Sly>Keep from having to modify package.json if you update the pw.
15:28:02  <jkominar>sorry.. maybe the wrong room for that question...
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15:28:19  <vekexasia1>ah ok sly
15:28:22  <vekexasia1>thanks
15:28:49  <Sly>Don't forget to change your code to use `process.env.YOUR_VARIABLE_NAME` in your code.
15:30:01  <Sly>ferlores
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15:35:59  <cronopio>ferlores: hey man! you around?
15:40:30  <vekexasia1>hmm next question :) How to specify a bundled dependency? I created a .js file inside node_modules and jitsu doesn't copy it /recognize it
15:40:53  <vekexasia1>I tried with "bundledDependencies": [ "facebook_lib" ]
15:41:01  <vekexasia1>but it does not work
15:41:07  <yawnt>vekexasia1: you need to create a node module
15:41:17  <yawnt>copy it to node_modules, and then do what you did
15:41:27  <yawnt>so in your case
15:41:34  <vekexasia1>so basically i'll need to create a directory
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15:41:39  <yawnt>you'd have to create a facebook_lib folder, in node_modules
15:41:39  <cronopio>vekexasia1: npm init could help you
15:41:41  <yawnt>with a package.json
15:41:47  <vekexasia1>create a package
15:41:49  <vekexasia1>ok
15:41:51  <vekexasia1>perfect love you fellows :)
15:41:57  <yawnt>pleasure :)
15:43:19  <vekexasia1>hahaah sorry is there a way to tell npm to understand the dependencies from itself?
15:43:24  <vekexasia1>like jitsu deploy seems to be doing?
15:43:47  <vekexasia1>or alternatively when launching npm install to update the package.json file ?
15:43:48  <yawnt>vekexasia1: your dependencies are specified in package.json
15:44:03  <yawnt>and so does every module
15:44:20  <yawnt>if you need something more
15:44:24  <yawnt>have a look at https://github.com/nodejitsu/require-analyzer
15:44:34  <vekexasia1>hmm thanks :)
15:44:36  <vekexasia1><3
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15:45:17  <cronopio>vekexasia1: if you use npm install --save will be installed and added to your package.json, ex npm install --save winston
15:46:41  <vekexasia1>that's what ii wanted cronopio :)
15:46:47  <vekexasia1>you're so nice people
15:46:49  <vekexasia1>thanks
15:47:00  <cronopio>pleasure :)
15:47:37  <yawnt>:)
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15:51:07  <Sly>vekexasia1, I had to stop your app. It hit a crash loop.
15:51:17  <vekexasia1>lol
15:51:23  <vekexasia1>nice
15:51:29  <vekexasia1>am I so powerful ?
15:52:02  <Sly>https://gist.github.com/273c3543323b4134ee8d
15:52:05  <Sly>That's the crash.
15:52:22  <vekexasia1>yup i saw the logs
15:52:25  <vekexasia1>but
15:52:32  <vekexasia1>i setted the env variables correctly
15:52:36  <vekexasia1>(i think)
15:52:41  <Avastou>why function(res,req) isn't work in .get('/bla,fun.., i need to use this.res and this.req ?
15:53:08  <Sly>Avastou, gist the code that you're trying to use. http://gist.github.com
15:53:33  <Sly>vekexasia1, it doesn't look like that has anything to do with your env variables. Looks like you forgot to update your redis database's IP address to connect to.
15:53:44  <Sly>There's no redis database on the drone, which is where 127.0.0.1 would be pointing.
15:54:35  <Avastou>ok Sly
15:54:38  <yawnt>Avastou: if you use flatiron, you have to use this.req and this.res
15:54:53  <yawnt>if it's express.. req, res is the order, not res, req ..
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15:55:03  <Avastou>yawnt: yes i use flatiron
15:55:14  <yawnt>Avastou: then you have to use this.req and this.res :)
15:55:27  <Avastou>ok thanks
15:55:39  <vekexasia1>Sly nope i did not forget. I think i setted up the env vars too late.
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15:55:52  <vekexasia1>so that the variables containing host+port were undefined
15:55:57  <yawnt>Avastou: pleasure :)
15:56:10  <vekexasia1>so that redis lib was handling that as "no arguments passed"
15:56:40  <Avastou>flatiron.app use director and Union, right ? it's unecessary to use require('union') in my app.js for recreate server..
15:57:50  <Sly>Not sure, vekexasia1. I don't really use Redis.
15:57:57  <Sly>It looks like your app is started this time, though.
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15:58:32  <cronopio>Avastou: yes, the http plugin of director do that for you
15:58:46  <cronopio>s/director/flatiron/ I mean
15:59:52  <Sly>vekexasia1, indeed. I'm seeing a successful deploy with no errors. env variables must have been the problem. :D
16:00:03  <vekexasia1>:) nice
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16:12:48  <Sly>Everyone doing alright in here?
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17:53:50  <Avastou>i do not understand why my session don't populate : https://gist.github.com/9b093bc687bf72a27fcf
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18:06:49  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/databases-minor-fixes] [databases] use metadata for getting connection info - cronopio
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18:23:24  <jaha>Is there anyway to link/view DBs created through jitsu on MongoHQ's site? Are the databases created through jitsu the same as their free account?
18:23:58  <Sly>jaha, you should be able to do `jitsu databases list` to get a connection link for your DB.
18:24:18  <Sly>I'm not sure about how Mongo's admin is setup for their DB's..
18:24:30  <Sly>But typically, like couch, it would be appended to the connection URL.
18:24:54  <Sly>Couch, for example, uses yourhost:1234/_utils/ for their db admin.
18:25:34  <Sly>Not sure if you can view it or whatever. Never used Mongo.
18:26:23  <cronopio>Sly: mongo dont have a web interface built-on like futon, you need a cli tool, mongo have one
18:26:32  <Sly>^ @ jaha
18:26:40  <Sly>Thanks, cronopio. Never used Mongo before. xD
18:26:58  <cronopio>jaha: and yes, the database that you create through jitsu have the same spec than their free plan
18:27:07  <cronopio>Sly: np :)
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18:28:59  <cronopio>jaha: and you are able to connect using the mongo cli installed in your machine and point it to mongohq connection URI and take a look of this http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Overview+-+The+MongoDB+Interactive+Shell
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18:30:34  <jipiboily>I have a question for nodejitsu staff (or anyone else in fact): what does a drone represents? How can I estimate the # of drone I'll need? Is there RAM or CPU values associated with it? Also, are the drones power the same in individual & business ?
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18:31:48  <jaha>cronopio: Sly: thanks!, my keyboard died in the middle of all that, haha, yea im familiar wth the cli and remote connecting just wanted to see if there was a reason to create the DBs through jitsu or directly in MongoHQ… seems like it makes sense to create the DBs outside of jitsu that way I can set them up under my account on MongoHQ
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18:33:14  <mmalecki>jipiboily: drone is 256 MB RAM, CPU isn't *that* powerful
18:33:25  <cronopio>jaha: yeah if you want more biggest plan at MongoHQ buy it directly with they and just use their connection info in your app
18:33:34  <mmalecki>but we can't really tell because SmartOS doesn't give us any details
18:34:33  <jipiboily>mmalecki so I guess it's a trial and error thing, right?
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18:35:03  <mmalecki>jipiboily: well, your drone can handle around 500 concurrent socket.io connections with a really simple app
18:35:11  <mmalecki>and much more concurrent http requests
18:35:21  <jipiboily>mmalecki also, does the drones have the same spec in business plans than individual ones?
18:35:54  <jipiboily>mmalecki awesome, sound like an interesting basic number :)
18:35:59  <mmalecki>we haven't worked that out just yet
18:36:05  <jipiboily>kk
18:36:09  <jipiboily>looks interesting
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18:36:11  <mmalecki>but yeah, more stability is what we can guarantee in busines
18:36:24  <mmalecki>I think there'll be an SLA or something
18:36:28  <mmalecki>dunno just yet, sorry
18:36:33  <jipiboily>that's what I understood of it: same spec, more stability, backups and so on
18:36:41  <jipiboily>no problem, just curious
18:36:57  <jipiboily>new to nodejs, just playing with it for fun (rails dev)
18:37:08  <jipiboily>thanks for your answers
18:37:14  <mmalecki>pleasure :)
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18:52:30  <flybyme>can someone give me a hand with flatiron and router.every.before
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18:53:26  <flybyme>if you see this https://github.com/FLYBYME/haibu/blob/master/lib/haibu/api/apps.js#L86 i only want it to apply to /apps route
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18:54:12  <flybyme>bu its affecting this route https://github.com/FLYBYME/haibu/blob/master/lib/haibu/api/users.js#L43
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18:56:07  <bradleymeck>flybyme: i think this.every will still hit the main router, sec
18:56:39  <flybyme>bradleymeck> so how would i route it for just that path?
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18:56:51  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/databases-minor-fixes] [tests] updated tests - cronopio
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18:58:54  <bradleymeck>flybyme: unsure if there is a helper for that, i know .before could be set on the routing table… reading source
19:03:03  <bradleymeck>flybyme: seems there is a .before(path, ...)
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19:03:16  <bradleymeck>so i would guess .before on /apps would work
19:04:13  <flybyme>bradleymeck> it seems to affect both apps and users route/path
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19:05:12  <bradleymeck>flybyme: .before('/apps') ?
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19:06:05  <bradleymeck>a ghetto hack if you really want it in a .path is this.before(this.scope.join('/'), …) // untested
19:06:15  <sberryman>blakmatrix: you around?
19:06:28  <blakmatrix>whats up
19:06:54  <sberryman>blakmatrix: any chance you can delete some old snapshots for me? (sberryman / teeleader-kue) 0.0.8, 0.0.9 and 0.0.10
19:07:04  <sberryman>blakmatrix: i keep having the problem where they won't delete
19:07:14  <blakmatrix>weird
19:07:41  <sberryman>i was able to delete about 5 other versions.. seems like once you hit 5+ something is happening with the older versions
19:07:58  <sberryman>do you guys have a cap on snapshots?
19:08:34  <bradleymeck>not that im aware of
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19:09:49  <blakmatrix>sberryman: all cleaned up
19:11:27  <sberryman>thanks!
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19:26:55  <Tam2>Hi All, I'm having issues deploying my site, i keep getting Nodejitsu Error <500>: Internal Server Error, Error: Socket hang up
19:27:35  <bradleymeck>Tam2, can you gist me the full output of `jitsu deploy`, and can you gist the package.json as well
19:29:25  <Tam2>Output: https://gist.github.com/77e5be829781558f97c6
19:29:38  <Tam2>package.json: https://gist.github.com/bb826df7c62120a4f035
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19:32:29  <bradleymeck>Tam2: im looking into it, can you try a second time
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19:33:14  <Tam2>Okay i'll try a deploy now
19:34:04  <bradleymeck>It looks like an enomem from something, but unsure where, we are rewriting some things so we use even less local memory for monitoring
19:34:45  <Tam2>Same error again
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19:38:17  <Tam2>sometimes when i happens, i give it a few hours then try again and it deploys fine
19:38:25  <Tam2>it*
19:40:23  <bradleymeck>Tam2 do you know how much memory your app is using normally? could it be doing some kind of replication to memory that uses up 200~Mb?
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19:42:09  <Tam2>I'm not sure how much memory it uses, but if i run the app locally task manager shows node.exe using 21,868k of memory usage
19:42:29  <ccowan>Quick question about hosting on Nodejitsu… for our application our users upload files off their Garmin Fitness devices and we use a Java library (via a child_spwan) to convert the file to JSON. Is that something I could do on Nodejitsu too?
19:43:07  <ccowan>I think our only real requirement is that java is installed.
19:43:08  <bradleymeck>ccowan: Java does not like 256Mb spaces generally
19:43:48  <bradleymeck>ccowan: but more importantly, we do not bundle Java
19:43:56  <bradleymeck>Tam2: odd
19:43:59  <ccowan>Ok...
19:44:58  <ccowan>So my choices are I could create a web service that just converts those files using java on a vps (so all it does it convert files) and host the rest of my app on Nodejitsu
19:45:00  <ccowan>or
19:45:09  <ccowan>Write a converted in pure Node.js
19:45:38  <bradleymeck>probably
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19:47:27  <jesusabdullah>wait for business plans, bundle your own java ;)
19:48:01  <jesusabdullah>use npm scripts to manage the env
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19:50:08  <bradleymeck>github.com/bradleymeck/npm-script#shameless plug
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19:51:03  <ccowan>you mean: https://github.com/bmeck/npm-script
19:51:29  <bradleymeck>meh, yea XD
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19:52:41  <Tam2>any ideas on how to get the app to deploy? or why it won't?
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19:53:52  <bradleymeck>Tam2, i would retry a few times, im still looking into why it just blows up memory usage
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19:55:17  <bradleymeck>basically gc is not hitting at right time or something similar during startup
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19:59:18  <Tam2>ok... i'ts deployed now after a couple of tries
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20:00:45  <Nodejitsu-Github>[node-http-proxy/master] http-proxy: emit websocket:start - Fedor Indutny
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20:05:15  <Tam2>I'm currently on the dev sandbox which is due to expire in a month or so.. so i'm looking at moving to the paid plans, coming from a background of traditional hosting, what exactly is a 'drone'? i know it says its a unit of computing power but what does that actually mean?
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20:06:48  <bradleymeck>Tam2 for personal its 256mb of ram currently (should only go up i would think) and a reserved CPU share on a big box. Business plans are being talked about to see if we want them to have slightly bigger ones, but we have not decided.
20:08:40  <Tam2>Ah okay, so does that mean if i get the regular plan with 5 nodes, does the application get hosted by 5 different 'processes' each with 256mb ram? and a load balancing happens between them?
20:09:21  <bradleymeck>Tam2, well you can put 1 app per drone, but basically yes if you wanted to
20:09:34  <gildean>Tam2: each of the drones could do different things
20:10:14  <Tam2>ah right, but if i only wanted the one application, it could load balance between 5 drones? would that be automatic or would i have to put something into the scripting to make that happen?
20:10:24  <gildean>bradleymeck: btw. is there a possibility to easily spawn new drones of the running app?
20:11:25  <bradleymeck>gildean: Tam2: we have an api for scaling single apps to multiple drones, but we are not done testing it. Load balancing would be automatic.
20:11:39  <bradleymeck>right now we do have some scaling but not so explicit.
20:11:48  <gildean>yeah
20:12:36  <Tam2>okay. do you know what sort of traffic a single drone can handle?
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20:14:46  <bradleymeck>Tam2: thats a NP hard question, but we have seen a simplistic JSON api handle 3k/s reqs, average app I would say 200-500 req/s
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20:15:44  <gildean>bradleymeck: what are you using as a loadbalancer, because i'm thinking on how to implement one myself
20:16:15  <bradleymeck>seriously modified node-http-proxy, have to in order to do dynamic CA stuff for us at least :-/
20:16:16  <gildean>but i can't come up with a simple way to hold states without always checking ip's etc.
20:16:22  <bradleymeck>ha-proxy etc require restarts
20:16:42  <bradleymeck>hold state?
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20:17:00  <bradleymeck>LRU cache a change feed from your database?
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20:17:51  <bradleymeck>*stomps
20:18:44  <Tam2>interesting.. do you guys only accept CC as method of payment? no paypal or google checkout?
20:18:46  <gildean>i mean like if the app would hold information about a users session etc. or would the apps just have to be designed so that they would be user-agnostic
20:19:03  <bradleymeck>Tam2 : chjj would know more than me
20:19:05  <gildean>like hold the sessions or whatever outside the loadbalanced applications
20:19:10  <watson>will you guys send me a notification e-mail when my free developer sandbox account period is close to ending, or do I have to go in and remember to check the status?
20:19:59  <bradleymeck>gildean: make a hash function that maps client ips consistently and uniquely to a server, let the servers deal with session individually, dont make your load balancer do wierd stuff
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20:20:44  <bradleymeck>watson there should be a notice email, I can make a note to confirm this with billing guys
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20:21:15  <gildean>bradleymeck: yeah, i was just thinking if there was some other way than to map users to servers, but i guess not
20:21:27  <watson>bradleymeck: Thanks :)
20:22:59  <bradleymeck>watson: they have a 7 day warning email apparently
20:23:22  <watson>bradleymeck: Super - no need to worry then ;)
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20:31:49  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] nodejitsu/node-http-proxy#46 (master - ebfdbed : Maciej Małecki): The build is still failing.
20:31:49  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/compare/1df2b30e84f0...ebfdbede3122
20:31:49  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/builds/2904695
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20:33:18  <Tam2>When i want to deploy a new version of the app and i keep getting the socket hangup error.. do i just keep trying a re-deploy until it works?
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20:34:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/commit/4d7e8a808d83
20:34:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/builds/2904743
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20:35:02  <bradleymeck>Tam2 for now I would say so, im working on some stuff that should help, but still unsure on why your app is acting that way when im not able to repro
20:35:04  <bradleymeck>locally*
20:35:38  <Tam2>hmm okay
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20:37:14  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/compare/ebfdbede3122...4d7e8a808d83
20:37:14  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/builds/2904750
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21:00:22  <Fabryz>evening. on my account panel I see "This plan expires in 2 months. Upgrade to prevent down time." but if I try to push to a new app I get "error: Error: Subscription limit reached. No drones started", does that mean i'm in a limbo where the existing running apps will work, but I can't deploy new ones?
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21:03:06  <Fabryz>ping jesusabdullah blakmatrix
21:03:13  <blakmatrix>yo
21:03:47  <Fabryz>heya, read above
21:03:49  <blakmatrix>Fabryz: yes
21:03:56  <blakmatrix>what plan are you one
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21:04:33  <Fabryz>still on the beta/free one i guess
21:04:55  <blakmatrix>you need to have a free drone to deploy... so you'll have to stop a running one
21:05:47  <Fabryz>3 drones total also on this plan i guess
21:06:02  <Fabryz>will disable the low priority ones
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21:08:24  <Fabryz>blakmatrix no, I still get that error
21:08:49  <Fabryz>and can't afford to deactivate the other 2, as I need them up
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21:10:00  <bradleymeck>off
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21:11:24  <blakmatrix>Fabryz: are you getting this when you try to start an app, or deploy via jitsu
21:11:33  <Fabryz>deploy via jitsu
21:11:36  <blakmatrix>o right you said you were on sandbox right?
21:12:15  <Fabryz>ya, with the "This plan expires in 2 months. Upgrade to prevent down time." message
21:12:31  <Fabryz>if with sandbox you mean what we had in beta
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21:17:57  <blakmatrix>Fabryz: I'm afraid the sandbox only lets you run one drone
21:18:21  <blakmatrix>Fabryz: you'll have to upgrade to the small plan if you want 3 drones, its only $7/mo
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21:24:35  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: nsh is public now eh?
21:24:52  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: I made it asplode :(
21:24:53  <Fabryz>dang, this app just does a websocket broadcast
21:25:10  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: very sweet though
21:25:36  <AvianFlu>yeah it's public
21:25:50  <jesusabdullah>^5 :)
21:26:49  <AvianFlu>also yes, it's easy to make it asplode
21:28:01  <njh_>hi. is it possible to change the timezone on a drone?
21:28:49  <yawnt>AvianFlu: I CAN USE JS AS A IN MAH SHELL
21:28:52  <yawnt>:3
21:29:06  <yawnt>s/AS A//
21:29:44  <yawnt>njh_: hey
21:29:55  <yawnt>sure! just run `jisu env set TZ 'yourtimezone'`
21:30:06  <yawnt>examples of timezones are like 'Europe/Rome' etc
21:30:25  <yawnt>then re-deploy
21:30:35  <njh_>ah cool. thanks!
21:30:43  <yawnt>pleasure ;)
21:30:52  <visnup>AvianFlu: ooh, been meaning to bug you
21:31:09  <visnup>AvianFlu: about nko3 stuff
21:31:49  <AvianFlu>visnup: word what's up
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21:32:11  <jesusabdullah>yo visnup
21:32:19  <visnup>AvianFlu: so, gonna generate users+passwords for each team. but, is there a way to get a ping back on a deploy?
21:32:19  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: I'm a judge this year fyi
21:32:22  <visnup>jesusabdullah: yoyoyo
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21:32:35  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: did not expect to have time for teaming
21:32:53  <visnup>nominate peeps at http://nodeknockout.com/judges/new
21:32:53  <AvianFlu>visnup: I'll think that over
21:32:56  <AvianFlu>it shouldn't be hard
21:33:24  <visnup>otherwise, we were going to use https://github.com/nko3/website/tree/master/module again
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21:33:44  <visnup>but since we're doing just nodejitsu, I was hoping to simplify for contestants
21:34:09  <visnup>and since we technically have access to their nodejitsu account
21:34:22  <blakmatrix>wht do you mean a ping back
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21:34:53  <blakmatrix>you want to be notified everytime a contestant team deploys?
21:35:05  <visnup>blakmatrix: like a github service hook
21:35:09  <visnup>blakmatrix: yes
21:35:30  <visnup>basically, when a team uses `jitsu deploy`, we just want a post at some url
21:35:32  <blakmatrix>visnup: easy way would be to require predeploy or post deploy hook I think
21:35:42  <blakmatrix>in thier package.json
21:35:52  <jesusabdullah>it'd be nice if it were seamless but yeah, that could work
21:35:54  <jesusabdullah>"use these hooks"
21:36:02  <jesusabdullah>"okay :/"
21:36:27  <AvianFlu>visnup: I'll see about doing it server-side so it's easy for everyone
21:36:32  <AvianFlu>it should be about five lines of code
21:36:39  <visnup>we might be able to make it seamless by prepopulating their github repos with package.jsons
21:36:40  <AvianFlu>but we can do it client-side if it won't work properly
21:37:07  <visnup>that would make it more seamless to do a jitsu deploy too actually
21:37:24  <visnup>blakmatrix: great idea
21:37:31  <blakmatrix>AvianFlu: if it was under org it could be really easy i'd think but i dunno if that is properly implemented yet?
21:37:32  <jesusabdullah>excellent! \o/
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21:41:45  <visnup>do you have any alerts on "site down" stuff?
21:42:08  <visnup>(we were thinking of alerting contestants/judges that a given site is down)
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21:42:16  <visnup>s/site/entry/
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21:43:16  <blakmatrix>if a app isnt up it returns a 404 i eleive
21:43:20  <blakmatrix>believe
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21:44:24  <jesusabdullah>that's true
21:44:59  <jesusabdullah>visnup: sometimes I'll hook up process.on('uncaughtException' to firef off an email through sendgrid or something
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21:46:01  <Leo_>I am developing my first app at node.js, does anybody know a good tutorial? I'm not totally lost, just looking foward to checkout the common practices on node.js when building a webapp.
21:46:25  <yawnt>Leo_: hi
21:46:31  <yawnt>let's see if i can help you
21:46:35  <yawnt>i should have some links
21:46:36  <yawnt>hold :)
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21:46:41  <Leo_>ok, thanks!
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21:47:02  <yawnt>Leo_: do you need something about node in general or specific to web apps?
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21:47:41  <Leo_>specific to webapp.
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21:48:10  <visnup>blakmatrix: but is there any nodejitsu/platform way to know that a 404 got served due to an instance down?
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21:48:35  <blakmatrix>visnup: there is also the api curl api.jit.su/apps/<username>/<appname>
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21:48:55  <yawnt>Leo_: http://devashish.co.in/tag/expressjs/ could something like this help?
21:49:09  <yawnt>it's a series of tutorial using express that explains step by step the architecture :)
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21:50:13  <visnup>Leo_: http://blog.nodeknockout.com will be full of them soon ;)
21:50:18  <Leo_>Im not really looking on serving the pages, i was thinking on building a client and connecting to a socket.
21:50:27  <Leo_>Would express still be useful?
21:50:35  <yawnt>Leo_: not really
21:50:39  <yawnt>http://www.nodebeginner.org/
21:50:46  <yawnt>this one
21:50:56  <yawnt>or i'd recommend the nodejs api docs, net module
21:51:42  <blakmatrix>visnup: the state property is started or stopped... or doesnt have that property if it hasnt been successfully deployed yet
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21:52:06  <visnup>blakmatrix: but that'd be just lots of polling on our side, right?
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21:55:57  <blakmatrix>you'd have to get the info somewhere i suppose,...
21:56:04  <Leo_>Thanks yawnt.
21:56:09  <yawnt>Leo_: ;)
21:56:28  <visnup>just hoping there was something more push-like
21:57:21  <visnup>where did avian go? we just judgified him
21:57:52  <visnup>http://nodeknockout.com/people/50870d6ab1bc490320000057
21:58:51  <visnup>oh, fyi, we're at 370 teams/655 peeps and on track for ~420 teams
21:59:11  <mbalho>wow
21:59:20  <visnup>go 420!
21:59:21  <blakmatrix>visnup: afraid not, could do a nko_init module of sorts in the contestants app that does a bunch of pushing/registering.. or perhaps even the postdeploy script
21:59:54  <visnup>blakmatrix: yeah, that's what https://github.com/nko3/website/tree/master/module used to be for
22:00:14  <visnup>but that was when we had 4 deploy platforms
22:00:51  <visnup>was hoping to take advantage of the simpler 1 deploy platform this year
22:01:03  <visnup>to eliminate steps
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22:03:57  <blakmatrix>visnup: makes sense but like each drone is its own individual machine , intentionally made for many differnt users
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22:10:23  <visnup>blakmatrix: yeah, but there's app-level things that nodejitsu provides (like post-deploy hook).
22:10:42  <visnup>blakmatrix: I guess, it would be a cool feature if nodejitsu had a "my app is down" service
22:10:53  <visnup>blakmatrix: assuming that whole machine weren't down
22:11:30  <visnup>and by "my app is down" I mean because of my user error causing it to crash, not because of a nodejitsu error
22:12:12  <blakmatrix>visnup: yeah make sense, just i dont think we've gotten quite to the point we have like a cloud watch push type service, so far thats been done within the app by individual users
22:12:21  <blakmatrix>though its something we are looking at
22:12:47  <visnup>cool, just wondering
22:12:51  <visnup>thanks
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22:55:39  <ferlores_>hi guys, gotta a problem with my app in nodejitsu, someone available for some help?
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23:01:02  <jesusabdullah>ferlores_: what's up?
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23:02:14  <visnup>AvianFlu: judgified you
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23:02:23  <AvianFlu>leet, thanks
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23:03:04  <jesusabdullah>word
23:04:50  <chrisdotcode>hello everyone
23:05:22  <Avastou>anyone use relationship with resourcefull flatiron plugin ?
23:05:32  <chrisdotcode>AvianFlu: It's Chris from dinner yesterday. How was the afterparty?
23:05:50  <AvianFlu>chrisdotcode: it was awesome!
23:05:58  <jesusabdullah>pawty pawty pawty
23:06:05  <chrisdotcode>how much did I miss out?
23:06:05  <jesusabdullah>!hrwiki wagon full of pancakes
23:06:06  <_ddgbot>http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=wagon%20full%20of%20pancakes&go=Go
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23:06:34  <AvianFlu>chrisdotcode: I was double-fisting prosecco
23:06:36  <jesusabdullah>Avastou: My understanding is that the relationships have a few rough edges but are better than they once were
23:06:56  <jesusabdullah>ferlores_: yo dawg can I help you out :)
23:07:09  <chrisdotcode>AvianFlu: double-fisting as in sexual double fisting? ...just how drunk were yoU?
23:07:17  <AvianFlu>whoa there dude
23:07:19  <AvianFlu>whoa there
23:07:39  <AvianFlu>a glass of prosecco in each hand, and easy on the eyes in this business support room :D
23:08:15  <chrisdotcode>oops, oops, sorry >_>
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23:12:54  <ferlores_>jesusabdullah, here I'm :D
23:13:04  <jesusabdullah>ferlores_: lay it on me
23:13:16  <ferlores_>the problem is that my app depends on the just uploaded tuiter 0.2.1 version
23:13:26  <jesusabdullah>go on
23:13:32  <jesusabdullah>I'm not familiar with this module but okay
23:13:39  <ferlores_>and when i'm deploying the app I get that the version doesnt exists
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23:13:50  <ferlores_>it is a twitter api client
23:14:05  <jesusabdullah>Interesting, how long ago did it get published?
23:14:10  <ferlores_>https://npmjs.org/package/tuiter
23:14:14  <ferlores_>5 hs ago
23:14:21  <jesusabdullah>Also, can you copypaste those logs to a gist for me?
23:14:25  <jesusabdullah>I'll see what I can find out
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23:14:40  <ferlores_>i have tuiter: '~0.2.1' in my package,json
23:14:42  <jesusabdullah>In the meantime ferlores_ you can also point that field to a git repo/tag and make it work that way
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23:15:02  <jesusabdullah>ferlores_: like, text from jitsu deploy, and preferrably the whole package.json
23:15:08  <jesusabdullah>ferlores_: http://gist.github.com
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23:15:23  <ferlores_>oki
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23:18:07  <ferlores_>jesusabdullah, https://gist.github.com/3942405
23:18:26  <ferlores_>jesusabdullah, https://npmjs.org/package/tuiter
23:19:06  <Sly>ferlores_, what does your package.json look like?
23:20:16  <ferlores_>Sly, it is in the gist https://gist.github.com/3942405
23:20:51  <Sly>Oh. Didn't see it down there.
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23:21:29  <Sly>One minute.
23:23:07  <jesusabdullah>based on that it looks like maybe our couch is a little behind on replication
23:23:12  <jesusabdullah>5 hrs seems a bit though
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23:23:34  <ferlores_>6hs at the moment :D
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23:25:15  <blakmatrix_>could downloaded it straight from github for now https://github.com/danzajdband/Tuiter/tarball/master
23:25:34  <blakmatrix_>ferlores_: ^
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23:26:36  <jesusabdullah>ferlores_: that package.json isn't up-to-date?
23:26:37  <ferlores_>blakmatrix_, thanks, I've just added the github to the package.json
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23:26:54  <ferlores_>jesusabdullah, wichone, the one of my app?
23:26:59  <jesusabdullah>yes
23:27:29  <ferlores_>in what sens it is not up to date?
23:28:18  <jesusabdullah>the semver for tuiter in the package.json in the gist does not match the one from jitsu's output in the gist
23:28:27  <jesusabdullah>hence, that's not the package.json you deployed with. :)
23:28:58  <ferlores_>I'm deploying constantly to try, I can update it now :D
23:29:10  <ferlores_>but it was the one that it was generating the problem
23:29:30  <ferlores_>jesusabdullah, ups, you are right sorry!
23:29:45  <jesusabdullah>all good
23:30:09  <jesusabdullah>I don't mean to be pedantic, I just need to make sure we're talking about the right thing; sometimes that's where the secret to the problem is
23:30:18  <jesusabdullah>no stone unturned n' all that
23:30:49  <ferlores_>jesusabdullah, you are right. Just to let you know: 1) I've change to the github repo in package.json and worked it out
23:30:58  <jesusabdullah>nice
23:31:01  <ferlores_>now I will change it back to generate again the problem
23:31:05  <ferlores_>and update the gist
23:31:18  <ferlores_>so (if you want) you can have a look why this happened
23:31:26  <jesusabdullah>okay, cool
23:31:57  <jesusabdullah>yeah, like I said I suspect our private npm is just behind, probably residual issues from yesterday's AWS issues
23:32:52  <ferlores_>yes, makes sense what you says, here is the gist up-to-date: https://gist.github.com/3942405
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23:38:35  <jesusabdullah>Thanks fer
23:39:01  <ferlores_>thanks guys, always a pleasure to get help from you :D
23:39:11  <jesusabdullah>thanks for your kind words
23:39:16  <ferlores_>:)
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23:40:48  <martin____>Hi guys, what's the performance difference between the current nodejitsu drones and the $28 a month ones? I need to do some calcs and need some multiplier, like 5x throughput or something (memory should not be an issue, basically shuffling requests from a to b)
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23:42:55  <jesusabdullah>martin____: Unsure, my guess is significant
23:43:07  <jesusabdullah>martin____: I'll know more when they're unveiled
23:43:34  <jesusabdullah>martin____: generally, individual plan drones can/will run on a box also running other people's applications
23:43:48  <jesusabdullah>martin____: so, like, one box could be running 8 or 9 other apps
23:43:57  <jesusabdullah>martin____: whereas the dedicated would be one box, one app, guaranteed
23:44:04  <jesusabdullah>martin____: make sense?
23:44:17  <martin____>So 10x is reasonably safe?
23:44:31  <jesusabdullah>If I were you I would assume that the value is roughly the same
23:44:42  <jesusabdullah>and think more about whether you would want a bunch of little drones or a few beefy ones
23:44:54  <jesusabdullah>if you can scale horizontally like a boss the minis could be where it's at
23:45:23  <jesusabdullah>but if you want more memory and hw for a given process (baby drones get like, 200mb or so ram)
23:45:33  <jesusabdullah>then the bigger guys will be good
23:45:49  <martin____>We could do horizontal, that's no problem. So the individual plan ones will basically be what we have now? I did some load tests against the current ones and can work with them
23:46:01  <jesusabdullah>yes, I believe so
23:46:08  <martin____>ok good, that helps a lot
23:46:12  <jesusabdullah>they will be similar in nature definitely
23:46:28  <jesusabdullah>rather, I should say: dev sandbox machines are the same as individual plan machines
23:46:55  <martin____>good. Any eta when the pricing finally comes? I feel bad freeloading, and at some point we need more drones
23:47:09  <jesusabdullah>pricing for individual plans is currently available
23:47:11  <jesusabdullah>!
23:47:16  <jesusabdullah>for business plans I do not know
23:47:23  <martin____>I mean when we can actually pay you :-)
23:47:33  <jesusabdullah>Like you could start paying for your drones today martin____, like, get a 3-pack for $7
23:47:43  <jesusabdullah>Yeah yeah, we're actually tasking credit cards
23:47:59  <jesusabdullah>https://webops.jit.su
23:48:05  <jesusabdullah>er
23:48:10  <jesusabdullah>https://webops.nodejitsu.com
23:48:23  <jesusabdullah>new certs are still in limbo sounds like
23:48:28  <martin____>awesome. I will do that now
23:48:58  <jesusabdullah><3
23:49:12  <martin____>found my first Issue: It's a company account, so there is no surname :-)
23:50:18  <martin____>And on billing it should really be name on card. The surname / name thing is confusin
23:50:19  <martin____>g
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23:51:32  <martin____>and label Restore to cancel please, and don't make it read, just make it a gray button.
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23:56:36  <martin____>Ok, there is a serious bug here. I updated my cc info on the account screen, then went on to activate the plan (btw, in the yellow 20 day warning box add a link that goes to plan page), and when I activated the plan it shows undefined for all my cc info
23:58:15  <martin____>And there is another bug. It automatically overwrites the cc name with the values in the account name field, which is problematic as cc's are always tied to a name, but accounts are not
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