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00:12:43  <bardu>when I log in from jitsu.com downloading logging information doesn't seem to work
00:13:03  <coderarity>you mean webops.jitsu.com ?
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00:13:21  <bardu>yes
00:13:36  <coderarity>bardu: and it works on webops.nodejitsu.com?
00:14:17  <bardu>It did but can't log in anymore, you know ssl cert expired
00:15:02  <warz>local time correct?
00:15:21  <jesusabdullah>facultymatt: Not with that message, can you show me your package.json and the full output of jitsu in a gist?
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00:39:30  <visnup>is there any way to pass `jitsu login` username and password on the command line?
00:43:39  <jesusabdullah>not the password, but I think you can do jitsu login username
00:44:04  <jesusabdullah>you can do an "expect-like" wrapper with colors turned off
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00:48:50  <visnup>I tried `jitsu login username` and it still prompted for username
00:49:06  <visnup>lemme double check latest
00:49:06  <coderarity>visnup: just change ~/.jitsuconf
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00:56:40  <visnup>this is for terse instructions
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01:06:28  <jesusabdullah>visnup: I thought that was fixed in the latest jitsu release but I may be wrong
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01:06:40  <visnup>jesusabdullah: doesn't seem to be
01:06:50  <jesusabdullah>weak
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01:07:01  <visnup>looking through the code, it uses jitsu.config.get
01:07:10  <visnup>does that happen to try an environment variable?
01:07:20  <mrgreg>hi. Ive just started my first app and hooking it up to mongolab. It needs to know where my app is hosted so so the db is created nearby and. I chose Joyent (thats who nodejitsu use right?) but then it offers LasVegas or Virginia. So which location is it? Or how can figure out where my app is?
01:07:39  <jesusabdullah>visnup: in that case you can use prompt.overrides like, jitsu login --username visnup
01:07:47  <jesusabdullah>visnup: you might be able to do the pw that way too actually
01:07:52  <visnup>jesusabdullah: ooh
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01:08:06  <jesusabdullah>mrgreg: our boxes are in us-east-1, in blacksburg
01:08:20  <warz>hrm, does union have a one liner syntax for returning a response code plus message? or even jsut a code? like, res.send(400) or something
01:08:23  <visnup>jesusabdullah: works!
01:08:30  * visnuphi fives jesusabdullah
01:08:40  <warz>looking at the code i don't see one in particular
01:08:55  <mrgreg>jesusabdullah: cool, thanks a lot!
01:09:50  <jesusabdullah>warz: something in flatiron defines res.json
01:10:02  <jesusabdullah>warz: res.json(400, { error: 'lolnope' });
01:10:16  <jesusabdullah>it might be in director and not union, I can't remember >_<
01:10:22  <warz>json is in uion
01:10:24  <warz>union
01:10:31  <warz>ill look into that
01:10:56  <warz>oh ya ok, i didn't see that. json checks for status code. cool.
01:11:03  <warz>thanks :D
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02:13:52  <bebensiganteng>hi sorry, i'm new to node.js.. i've tried to serve a static files but i got this instead
02:13:53  <bebensiganteng>A file must be requested
02:13:59  <bebensiganteng>please help...
02:14:42  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: what libs are you using, or just plain node.js?
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02:16:14  <bebensiganteng>just plain node.js, i think... i referenced the code from this http://fromanegg.com/post/18352790356/how-to-make-a-node-js-static-file-server-part-1
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02:18:10  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: and can you paste a gist or something?, if the code is the same should be work I guess
02:19:20  <bebensiganteng>i can send you the file, if you don't mind.. sorry i'm really new to node.js
02:19:51  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: dont worry, this is the code you have? https://gist.github.com/1920353
02:20:30  <bebensiganteng>thanks, yes that's the one, all though i have added some socket.io code.
02:20:33  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: look the line 22 is the error you are seeing, the path dont exist
02:20:56  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: or is ./?
02:22:17  <bebensiganteng>i'm using the root dir to put my files.. so the root should be root="./" ?
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02:25:30  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: Im not sure about that line, try to puts some console.log() and see what you are requesting on req.url or maybe delete those idk
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02:26:48  <bebensiganteng>ok thanks, i'll do that..
02:28:55  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: also look at this lib https://github.com/isaacs/st
02:31:00  <bebensiganteng>the req.url is requesting "/"
02:31:24  <bebensiganteng>if i use st, do i need to define that on the json?
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02:32:22  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: seems that path is the only obligatory
02:32:50  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: the others things are cache or others nice features
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02:33:30  <bebensiganteng>okay i'll try st
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02:35:10  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: oh! index: 'index.html' and index: false should be help
02:35:27  <cronopio>s/and/or just one
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02:36:55  <bebensiganteng>sorry i didnt get that, do you mean i need to include that on the mimetypes?
02:37:51  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: no, sorry, I mean related to options to pass to st
02:38:18  <bebensiganteng>i see, thanks
02:38:59  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: you're welcome
02:39:50  <dylang>hate when i mean to deploy and come back 10 minutes later and it's still at `prompt: Is this ok?: (yes)` - it was yes the last 228 times, why would it suddenly not be yes?
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02:44:32  <bebensiganteng>okay now, i got this error https://gist.github.com/9edabf2016554db455f4 x(
02:46:24  <jesusabdullah>did you add it to your package.json
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02:46:52  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: did you get my email responses about the mongohq issue?
02:47:01  <jesusabdullah>doubletap: I did not! But yes let's talk!
02:47:07  <jesusabdullah>I'm sorry I shut your app off
02:47:15  <jesusabdullah>the mongohq guy thought that was a rash action on my part
02:47:41  <doubletap>yea, i may have been able to scale back polling or something.
02:47:51  <doubletap>i dont have much data on what was causing the problem.
02:47:57  <jesusabdullah>I see
02:48:03  <jesusabdullah>I can put you in contact with their guy if you want
02:48:11  <jesusabdullah>yeah I'll forward your email to him
02:48:26  <doubletap>well, the thing is that i had just started a rebuild on my most core collection that had a severe design issue.
02:48:39  <jesusabdullah>doubletap: you can turn it back on if you want, they said they just wanted to talk so
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02:49:07  <bebensiganteng>should i add it like this "repository": { "type": "git", "url": "git://github.com/isaacs/st" },
02:49:31  <bebensiganteng>sorry i'm really new at this
02:49:46  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: ok, i should have the rebuild of that part done by wednesday now that i have this case of rockstars.
02:50:21  <doubletap>i had data in my keys
02:50:43  <doubletap>so, i could not index. i thought i was being so slick and it was slick for my code but horrible for my db.
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02:54:12  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: I started back up. Do you think you guys can suffer my app for a couple days?
02:54:24  <doubletap>would it help if I moved to a paid instance of mongohq?
02:55:16  <cronopio>bebensiganteng: npm install st // in the same directory of server.js
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02:58:53  <bebensiganteng>thanks, deploying now..
03:01:01  <bebensiganteng>sorry, still no go, i got this error now https://gist.github.com/9edabf2016554db455f4
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03:02:31  <bebensiganteng>oh, tried it again, it deployed now..
03:02:56  <bebensiganteng>hmm. but on my browser i have this An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNRESET"}
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03:08:41  <jesusabdullah>doubletap: I think it should be fine, I'll forward your concerns to the mongohq guy :)
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03:12:18  <jesusabdullah>hmm
03:12:32  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: it sounds like your app is crashing shortly on start
03:12:47  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: what is your username and app name please?
03:12:57  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: also can you tun `jitsu logs app` and tell me if you see useful output?
03:13:40  <jesusabdullah>run*
03:14:40  <bebensiganteng>yes, my username is bebensiganteng and my app name is http://bebensiganteng.jitsu.jit.su/
03:14:55  <bebensiganteng>and this is my log https://gist.github.com/3971276
03:15:04  <bebensiganteng>please help...
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03:15:31  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: you need to add st to your package.json
03:15:38  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: try running `npm install --save st`
03:15:43  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: and then try deploying
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03:23:55  <bebensiganteng>yes deploying..
03:24:51  <bebensiganteng>the console returns nodejitsu ok, but when i tried to refresh the browser it took so long to load x(
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03:26:25  <bebensiganteng>it doesnt even load..
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03:27:51  <bebensiganteng>please help
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03:29:51  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: thank you. please feel free to contact me directly again at any time. If you have concerns about my app, you can send me a text or call me at the number in my email.
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03:30:23  <jesusabdullah>doubletap: no problem
03:30:25  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: I'm looking
03:30:41  <bebensiganteng>thank you sir..
03:32:45  <jesusabdullah>how big is your application in MB?
03:33:32  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: can you change the port to one over 1024 and try again? You'll still access it over port 80
03:33:39  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: and I think that's what the EACCESS is about
03:34:01  <bebensiganteng>okay, i'll do that
03:38:01  <bebensiganteng>i change it to 8080, it still not happening https://gist.github.com/3971339
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03:39:50  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: is jitsu's output still the same? Or is it different?
03:40:05  <jesusabdullah>your code looks right from what I can tell
03:40:07  <jesusabdullah>right enough at least
03:40:33  <bebensiganteng>on the browser, it says data is not received..
03:40:56  <jesusabdullah>okay let's see if I can dig anything else up
03:41:30  <bebensiganteng>thank you, or maybe should i put all my files into /static folder?
03:42:57  <jesusabdullah>this is weird
03:43:17  <jesusabdullah>I see
03:43:18  <jesusabdullah>error: path.exists is now called `fs.exists`.
03:43:20  <jesusabdullah>in the code
03:43:25  <jesusabdullah>but since when did that throw?
03:44:52  <bebensiganteng>fs exists? i have never seen that error from my side..
03:45:18  <jesusabdullah>yeah, I mean
03:45:24  <jesusabdullah>like I said I wouldn't expect that to throw anyway
03:45:32  <jesusabdullah>maybe that's in our code idk
03:45:53  <jesusabdullah>can you do me a favor and leave your app as it is for a few minutes so I can try curling it?
03:46:26  <bebensiganteng>okay... thank you..
03:46:30  <jesusabdullah>Sure, I mean
03:46:34  <jesusabdullah>I do what I can :D
03:47:14  <bebensiganteng>yes please, or is there any other way to serve static files? i've tyring all the examples i found on google, nothing works.. x(
03:47:28  <bebensiganteng>just one js and one css :(
03:49:07  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: does it work for you locally? Like, if you run 'npm start' does it run on your machine?
03:49:12  <jesusabdullah>just a sanity check
03:49:27  <jesusabdullah>cause it looks like the app is up but that it's not closing connections to /
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03:49:43  <jesusabdullah>I've used st before, it works pretty well and all, it's just a little low-level is all
03:51:13  <bebensiganteng>ok, i've type 'npm start' a bunch of errors just been thrown at me https://gist.github.com/3971339
03:51:44  <jesusabdullah>try changing the scripts:start field to 'node server.js'
03:51:54  <jesusabdullah>that should work in both npm and nodejitsu
03:53:29  <bebensiganteng>okay, i've changed it and retyped 'npm start', now it says 'Listening at: http://bebensiganteng.jitsu.jit.su/' and just froze at that point..
03:53:53  <jesusabdullah>sure, that's expected
03:54:03  <bebensiganteng>ah, okay... :p should i redeploy..
03:54:04  <bebensiganteng>?
03:54:09  <jesusabdullah>not yet
03:54:12  <jesusabdullah>you should try visiting it
03:54:12  <jesusabdullah>at
03:54:17  <jesusabdullah>http://localhost:8080
03:54:25  <jesusabdullah>assuming that's the port you have it listening on
03:54:38  <jesusabdullah>and make sure that your website works when running on your computer
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03:56:27  <bebensiganteng>ok tried to go to http://localhost:8080/ it just kept loading..
03:57:47  <bebensiganteng>no its not working x(
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04:07:22  <bebensiganteng>ok i'm just going to host my code externally..
04:08:04  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: if it doesn't work locally it's a problem with your code unfortunately
04:08:26  <bebensiganteng>i see..
04:08:33  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: my guess is that it's not auto-indexing and not showing directories, and really there's just no code path for the '/' path to actually send a response
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04:08:43  <jesusabdullah>like, in your handler it's all like, if nothing to serve, just return
04:09:11  <jesusabdullah>but you actually want to do a res.statusCode = 404; res.end(JSON.stringify({ code: 404, message: 'cant find it dude!!' }));
04:09:18  <jesusabdullah>or something like that
04:10:52  <bebensiganteng>hmmm... i'm in a panic mode right now, try that later.. :S
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05:44:03  <mdedetrich>hi everybody!
05:45:23  <jesusabdullah>hey
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05:47:36  <TimTgthr>Anyone awake?
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05:49:23  <mdedetrich>not me
05:50:20  <deoxxa[cookies]>yeah i'm actually asleep
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05:50:38  <mdedetrich>correction, asleep and eating cookies
05:50:43  <L33L00>halp.. me ... plaese.
05:51:43  <mdedetrich>L33L00: your in the wrong channel, this aint self help for alcoholics
05:51:48  <deoxxa[cookies]>L33L00: i'd like to, but i have no idea what you want. thus, i am going to guess!
05:51:55  <deoxxa[cookies]>first you need to get the ingredients
05:52:05  <mdedetrich>uh oh
05:52:06  <L33L00>Multipass?
05:52:07  <deoxxa[cookies]>now i recommend you use fresh tomatoes, since they'll taste much better than the tinned ones
05:52:20  <mdedetrich>deoxxa[cookies]: please, do not go there
05:52:20  <L33L00>Anywho..
05:52:56  <L33L00>It appears as though jitsu hates my version of NPM, more specifically when installing flatiron
05:53:19  <mdedetrich>L33L00: you can always try bundled packages
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05:53:35  <mdedetrich>L33L00: many developers of jitsu also work on flatiron
05:53:53  <mdedetrich>L33L00: so if there was some massive issue with flatiron, it would be fixed immediately on nodejitsu
05:54:30  <L33L00>Gonna give that a shot
05:54:45  <mdedetrich>L33L00: i would ask jesusabdullah first
05:54:54  <mdedetrich>L33L00: flat iron should work 100% out of the box
05:54:58  <jesusabdullah>what's up?
05:55:09  <mdedetrich>read ^
05:55:28  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: you'll have to show me specifically how it freaks out
05:55:34  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: by pasting logs into a gist
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06:04:15  <L33L00>I think I've identified the culprit. I'm rather new to developing on Ubuntu (12.04) and it appears I've possibly messed things up.
06:05:59  <L33L00>When using 'node -v' it reports my version being 0.8.14, but when using sudo it reports 0.6.12
06:07:05  <L33L00>In my troubleshooting efforts I've installed nvm, but it doesn't list 0.6.12 so I assume that its installed as root? Maybe? I don't real
06:07:16  <L33L00>..really have any clue.
06:07:33  <mdedetrich>it seems like you have node installed through nodes package manager and manually
06:08:01  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: ahhhhh
06:08:12  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: run 'which node' not in sudo mode
06:08:19  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: then call it directly by path
06:08:22  <jesusabdullah>like
06:08:58  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: or, easier, run 'apt-get uninstall' and then install node 0.8.14 globally from source
06:09:29  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: unfortunately you need at least v0.6.20 for the version of readline we use to work >_<
06:09:30  <L33L00>Alrighty, lets see what we get
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06:11:01  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: the way those nvm things work is that they set up an environment local to your user by modifying your $PATH
06:11:11  <jesusabdullah>L33L00: so when you're a different user, none of that applies anymore
06:11:15  <mdedetrich>I would probably recommend using the node.js from source
06:11:19  <mdedetrich>instead of the ubuntu package
06:11:30  <mdedetrich>unless you are using a rolling distribution
06:11:35  <mdedetrich>(which ubuntu is not)
06:11:40  <mdedetrich>its going to be very painful updating node.js
06:13:36  <L33L00>I do believe I installed from http://nodejs.org/dist/node-latest.tar.gz, not using the Ubuntu package manager
06:14:41  <L33L00>..and I'm confused, I'd want to uninstall from the directory returned by 'sudo which node' not 'which node', right?
06:15:18  <mdedetrich>I don't use ubuntu, so I have no idea tbh
06:15:32  <mdedetrich>but from what I heard earlier, you seem to have 2 installations of node
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06:17:33  <L33L00>Can you recommend an alternative to Ubuntu? I don't have any affinity / requirement to use it..
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06:28:07  <L33L00>Solution for Ubuntu users who have found this log and had the same problem as myself: 1. cd to /usr/ and execute 'sudo rm -r bin/node bin/node-waf include/node lib/node lib/pkgconfig/nodejs.pc share/man/man1/node.1' 2. cd to node-latest, 'sudo ./configure' and 'sudo make' 3. 'sudo npm install jitsu' should now work fine.
06:32:08  <L33L00>Thanks for your help jesusabdullah & mdedetrich and good luck with the sleep-baking deoxxa[cookies]
06:32:14  <deoxxa[cookies]>\o/
06:32:32  <mdedetrich>L33L00: if you are new to linux, then just stick with ubuntu
06:32:54  <Sly>Even if you're not new, I use Ubuntu.
06:33:12  <mdedetrich>just make sure that you install node.js from source
06:33:23  <Sly>Even though it's not on this laptop at the moment. :'(
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06:34:08  <L33L00>Just to clarify, 'from the source' would be downloading a tarball, running ./configure & make rather than from something like apt-get?
06:34:45  <Sly>Indeed.
06:35:05  <Sly>Or using Git to clone the branch, if you intend on developing for Node at any point.
06:35:35  <Sly>Which downloading the latest tarball should get you the master branch.
06:36:05  <Sly>At least, the files for it. You won't have any Git related data in a tarball.
06:36:49  <L33L00>Sweet :) As for updating / version management, is nvm reliable?
06:37:27  <Sly>There's NVM and there's also "n".
06:37:48  <L33L00>Ah, I'll look into them. Thanks
06:38:07  <Sly>https://github.com/visionmedia/n
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06:39:54  <deoxxa[cookies]>you can also download the official binaries
06:40:00  <deoxxa[cookies]>and just drop them somewhere
06:40:54  <mdedetrich>L33L00: if you are looking for a distro that supports using packages with development
06:41:00  <mdedetrich>L33L00: archlinux is by far your best bet
06:41:30  <mdedetrich>its very easy to make proper packages, and you can easily modify packages, on the fly, before installing them, if you want to do something like bump a version of a package
06:42:22  <mdedetrich>Sly: I would also recommend archlinux if you are a non novice linux user
06:42:26  <mdedetrich>its bounds better than ubuntu
06:42:29  <mdedetrich>for a dev environment
06:42:44  <mdedetrich>although if you don't do coding and just want a generic system, ubuntu is fine
06:42:51  <Sly>mdedetrich: the only problem is that I just purchased this laptop yesterday, and I haven't found anything that works on it yet.. Linux wise.
06:43:03  <mdedetrich>Archlinux has by far
06:43:06  <mdedetrich>the best wiki
06:43:09  <mdedetrich>out of any linux distro
06:43:14  <mdedetrich>thats what makes it so good
06:43:19  <mdedetrich>Sly: do you have optimus?
06:43:24  <Sly>Nope.
06:43:28  <mdedetrich>Sly: whats your laptop specs
06:43:29  <L33L00>I'm definitely gonna have to run a VM of that before I settle on what to put on my shitty old dev box
06:43:46  <mdedetrich>L33L00: make sure you read the beginners guide wiki
06:43:59  <mdedetrich>L33L00: you install it from a somewhat bare installation, similar to gentoo
06:44:00  <Sly>ASUS Q500A, i5-3210M 2.5GHz (3.1GHz boost), 6GB RAM
06:44:16  <L33L00>Love me some beginners guides
06:44:34  <mdedetrich>Sly: that will def work with arch
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06:45:05  <mdedetrich>L33L00: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide
06:45:10  <mdedetrich>L33L00: however I warn you
06:45:15  <mdedetrich>do this in a VM, and when you have time
06:45:20  <mdedetrich>first time users often spend days doing this
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06:45:31  <mdedetrich>(I can do it in a couple of hours)
06:45:36  <Sly>You sure, mdedetrich? It's not listed in their compatibility list.
06:45:48  <mdedetrich>Sly: yes I am sure, because of the hardware you have
06:45:57  <L33L00>Lawdy. 'Beginners' sounds like an understatement, heh.
06:46:08  <mdedetrich>Sly: arch is not ubuntu, compatibility is determined by your hardware, not your system
06:46:23  <mdedetrich>Sly: you have a intel graphics card, intel wireless and the rest of your laptop is generic
06:46:26  <Sly>L33L00: if you don't know anything about how Linux works, installing Arch is definitely a good way to learn. Same with Gentoo.
06:46:48  <Sly>mdedetrich: Arch still has a compatibility list, even though it's not Ubuntu.
06:46:58  <Sly>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HCL/Laptops/Asus
06:47:08  <mdedetrich>No one uses gentoo anymore unless you need to install on some other architecture or embedded device
06:47:22  <mdedetrich>gentoo was just a ridiculous pain in managing C flags when compiling from source
06:47:46  <Sly>Was? Gentoo is still a pain.
06:47:56  <mdedetrich>Sly: I never said it didn't have a compatibility list, just that it depends on your hardware, not what your laptop is
06:48:05  <mdedetrich>Sly: eh, I haven't tried it in 5 years
06:48:15  <mdedetrich>Sly: I assume you are still right
06:48:49  <mdedetrich>that is how linux works, compatibility depends on what hardware your system is
06:49:23  <Sly>If that were the case, Ubuntu should have no problem booting because other people boot i5 systems with no problem.
06:49:31  <mdedetrich>Sly: oh yes
06:49:37  <mdedetrich>Sly: but ubuntu does a lot of retarded shit
06:49:43  <mdedetrich>Sly: in the background
06:49:47  <Sly>This is true.
06:50:03  <mdedetrich>it does it to cover corner cases, which almost inevitably breaks something somewhere else
06:50:20  <mdedetrich>all in the name of having something working completely out of box, that also updates properly without user intervention
06:50:37  <mdedetrich>tbh oh, thats more of an issue with linux's retarded driver ecosystem more than anything else
06:50:46  <mdedetrich>ubuntu had to learn that the hard way
06:51:05  <Sly>Ubuntu learns everything the hard way, it seems.
06:51:35  <mdedetrich>Sly: well unless it feels like migrating from linux kernel
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06:51:38  <mdedetrich>it doesn't have that choice
06:51:51  <mdedetrich>linux has no stable driver abi, which means things constantly and always break
06:52:35  <mdedetrich>in some cases you have to upgrade your kernel just to use a newer program, and upgrading a kernel always brings massive issues
06:52:54  <mdedetrich>win/mac doesn't have this issue, and its also why Linux has almost no penetration as a desktop OS
06:54:07  <Sly>Well, I'm on Windows 8 right now.
06:54:15  <mdedetrich>I'm going to move eventually
06:54:27  <mdedetrich>people made such a massive shitstorm over windows 8
06:54:36  <mdedetrich>such silliness
06:55:17  <Sly>I have to admit that I've caused quite a shitstorm over it.
06:55:31  <Sly>It's a personal preference, though. I just like Linux. xD
06:55:31  <mdedetrich>people always make a shitstorm when something changes
06:55:38  <L33L00>You Sly devil, you.
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06:55:52  <Sly>Yeah. Doesn't matter to me what people use. To each their own.
06:57:18  <Sly>But yeah. Think I'm about to pass out for tonight. Dunno. Might be back.
06:57:18  <mdedetrich>tbh, windows did what it had to do
06:57:28  <mdedetrich>its biggest bane is it didn't enforce any UI guidelines
06:57:31  <mdedetrich>or natural way of doing things
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06:57:42  <mdedetrich>it was a just a chaotic mess in terms of program organization
06:57:58  <mdedetrich>with every company thinking they did UI/integration better than anyone else
06:58:05  <mdedetrich>which is why you had retarded shit like Adobe Bridge
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06:58:22  <mdedetrich>stuff like that should never need to be released on an OS
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07:05:50  <mdedetrich>L33L00: but yeah, in my opinion Archlinux is the best linux distro, if you use it for the reasons you use linux
07:05:59  <mdedetrich>L33L00: just start off using it with an attitude as a hobby
07:06:16  <mdedetrich>L33L00: you have to do some things manually, which is different to ubuntu/mac/windows
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07:07:08  <L33L00>I'm trying to set up a development box aside from my day to day use box so that sounds perfect
07:07:29  <mdedetrich>L33L00: I also might wait for kernel 3.7
07:07:35  <mdedetrich>and use btrfs for your filesystem
07:09:07  <L33L00>Will definitely keep that in mind, thanks :D
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07:13:09  <Liarco>Hi all! Does anyone know how to scale a nodejs app using multiple drones (running the same code)? I'm currently testing the nodejitsu platform and I can't find any example or guide about drones... :(
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07:19:34  <alucardX>morning
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09:23:17  <bebensiganteng>hi, on the sandbox mode how many apps can i build?
09:26:16  <bebensiganteng>hello, anybody there?
09:27:06  <mmalecki>bebensiganteng: one running app
09:27:54  <bebensiganteng>thanks! is it possible to switch between them, by stopping and restarting?
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09:29:00  <mmalecki>yeah
09:29:20  <bebensiganteng>cool, thanks!
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10:36:45  <Pete2>hi :)
10:37:53  <Pete2>i'm trying to deploy an application with the noanalyze option as I want it to upload my local node_modules to test some changes without having to publish a dependent module - it's not working though. Any suggestions?
10:39:13  <yawnt>Pete2: hey :)
10:39:17  <booyaa>oh yeah i've heard latest stable node.js compiles out of the box on a raspberrypi
10:39:21  <booyaa>no more patchng v8
10:39:26  <yawnt>Pete2: if you want to push local changes you need to add the module to bundledDependencies
10:39:40  <Pete2>ah ok thanks :)
10:40:03  <Pete2>yawnt: i'll try that :)
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10:50:22  <kenniyu>hey all, i just tried to deploy and i got this error message
10:50:22  <kenniyu>error: Error: Subscription limit reached. No drones started.
10:50:32  <kenniyu>would anyone know if this is a problem on my end?
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10:54:24  <yawnt>kenniyu: hey, it means you're out of drones
10:54:32  <yawnt>kenniyu: how many apps have you started and what's your plan?
10:54:51  <kenniyu>8 started so far
10:55:00  <kenniyu>i dont have a plan
10:55:05  <kenniyu>as far as i know
10:55:06  <kenniyu>its free
10:55:18  <yawnt>so you're in the trial
10:55:21  <yawnt>when did you signup?
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10:56:13  <kenniyu>last december
10:56:32  <yawnt>ok so in the developer sandbox there's a limit of drones you can deploy
10:56:35  <Pete2>Is it possible to make an HTTP upgrade request to my app on nodejitsu?
10:56:37  <yawnt>you hit that limit
10:56:52  <Pete2>i tried http.request({ host: 'pghalliday.jit.su',
10:56:53  <Pete2> port: 80,
10:56:53  <Pete2> headers: { Connection: 'Upgrade', Upgrade: 'TLS' } })
10:56:54  <yawnt>kenniyu: so you can either buy a paid plan, or stop one of your running apps and redeploy
10:56:57  <yawnt>:)
10:57:24  <Pete2>but i get error: socket hang up
10:57:28  <kenniyu>thanks man
10:57:29  <Pete2>works locally
11:02:21  <yawnt>Pete2: have you tried to redirect with Location to "https://"
11:02:30  <yawnt>that should achieve what you're trying to do :)
11:02:59  <Pete2>yawnt: i'm not trying to make an HTTPS request
11:03:24  <Pete2>i need to upgrade a socket to TLS so that i can sned data back and forth over it
11:03:42  <Pete2>more like websockets - in fact i'm looking now at how i would do it with websockets
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11:04:37  <Pete2>but i don't know why the upgrade won't work - i've been jumping through a lot of hoops just to make it work over http (would rather not) as http is required for the domain to map to my app as i understand it
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11:07:29  <yawnt>Pete2: our load balancer supports that for websockets
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11:08:05  <yawnt>Pete2: i'm no websocket express but how about trying with wss:// ?
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11:08:10  <yawnt>*expert
11:08:15  <yawnt>damn autocorrect :D
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11:10:02  <Pete2>I'm not a websocket expert either ;) maybe i just need to change Upgrade: 'TLS' to a websocket string instead - but i will look into websockets to see how they work - as long as i have a socket in the end i should be ok
11:10:21  <yawnt>wss are secure websockets
11:10:28  <yawnt>why do you need to start with a regular and then upgrade?
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11:12:17  <Pete2>I'm implementing a reverse proxy - the first client that connects is the proxy client - subsequent connections will be traffic that needs to be passed to the client - so the server needs to just listen on raw sockets and decide what to do based on it's current state
11:12:52  <Pete2>as it is only the first upgrade request would be upgraded
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11:20:16  <Pete2>yawnt: Aw, man i feel like i just cheated or something!
11:20:18  <Pete2>{ host: 'pghalliday.jit.su',
11:20:18  <Pete2> port: 80,
11:20:18  <Pete2> headers: { Connection: 'Upgrade', Upgrade: 'websocket' } }
11:20:35  <Pete2>worked just fine but i have an uneasy feeling about it ;)
11:20:46  <yawnt>haha good that it works :P
11:21:35  <Pete2>thanks for the help :)
11:21:52  <yawnt>anytime :)
11:23:14  <kenniyu>could someone help check on the status of my app really quick
11:23:23  <kenniyu>username: kenniyu, app: berkeleygrams
11:23:38  <yawnt>what do you mean?
11:23:48  <kenniyu>i got an error when i tried to deploy
11:23:49  <kenniyu>error: Error: socket hang up
11:24:10  <yawnt>can i see your package.json and jitsu's full output?
11:24:17  <kenniyu>sure
11:24:23  <yawnt>thanks
11:26:05  <kenniyu>https://gist.github.com/3973045
11:26:09  <kenniyu>thank you
11:26:29  <yawnt>kenniyu: take out the auth header
11:26:33  <yawnt>your password is there
11:27:27  <kenniyu>yikes
11:27:30  <kenniyu>k i did
11:27:31  <kenniyu>i think
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11:28:15  <yawnt>kenniyu: how big is your app?
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11:29:12  <kenniyu>takes up 17mb on my hd
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11:29:31  <yawnt>what's taking so much space?
11:29:52  <kenniyu>prolly the modules
11:30:21  <yawnt>do you have something in bundledDeps?
11:30:29  <kenniyu>no
11:30:39  <kenniyu>should i move as much as i can to that?
11:30:44  <yawnt>no
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11:30:51  <yawnt>node_modules doesn't get uploaded
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11:31:06  <yawnt>because that error you're getting isn't from nodejitsu, it means that jitsu is taking too much time locally
11:31:27  <kenniyu>hm
11:31:28  <yawnt>you could try to leverage the timeout
11:31:40  <kenniyu>another problem was
11:31:48  <kenniyu>before this, it couldnt find the start script in the package.json
11:31:55  <yawnt>`jitsu config set timeout 420000`
11:32:06  <kenniyu>but i thought that this gets automatically put in when you jitsu deploy
11:32:16  <kenniyu>so i manually put the start script in the package.json
11:32:20  <kenniyu>dont know if that affected anything
11:32:23  <yawnt>no
11:32:26  <yawnt>you did good :)
11:32:37  <yawnt>jitsu usually prompts you if scripts.start isn't ther
11:32:39  <yawnt>*there
11:33:26  <kenniyu>oh nice
11:33:27  <kenniyu>now it worked
11:33:30  <kenniyu>thanks man
11:33:34  <yawnt>you're welcome :)
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12:11:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>[node-http-proxy] mmalecki force-pushed refactor from 5cb5556 to e1fd920: http://git.io/4B5Luw
12:11:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>node-http-proxy/refactor 37cc28f Maciej Małecki: [fix] Fix error events on `RoutingProxy`
12:11:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>node-http-proxy/refactor 944e4d3 Maciej Małecki: [refactor] `s/node-http-proxy/http-proxy`...
12:11:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>node-http-proxy/refactor 4acb00b Maciej Małecki: [refactor] Use `pipe` when proxying HTTP traffic...
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12:45:40  <brice_>hi there
12:46:25  <brice_>anyone could give a hand with a nasty deploy error please?
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12:50:58  <yawnt>yes?
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12:51:42  <brice_>hey yawnt
12:52:01  <brice_>i keep on having 500 or TIMEOUT errors
12:52:12  <brice_>everything is uptodate
12:52:16  <yawnt>can i see your package.json and jitsu's full output?
12:52:50  <brice_>https://gist.github.com/5d231645929dd6875998
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12:53:42  <brice_>worked about 4 hours ago then keep on failing
12:54:20  <yawnt>can you change mongoose to 3.2.1?
12:54:59  <brice_>sure can
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12:58:17  <brice_>==uploading
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13:03:57  <brice_>weird that it went through earlier
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13:08:42  <brice_>yawnt, still the same error with 3.2.1
13:13:05  <yawnt>brice_: username appname?
13:13:28  <brice_>brice ledrink
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13:18:14  <yawnt>brice_: how big is your app?
13:19:43  <brice_>it says 80mb all up with the node_modules
13:20:09  <yawnt>brice_: without node_modules?
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13:20:28  <brice_>32
13:20:50  <yawnt>brice_: why is it so big?
13:21:00  <coderarity>80 MB is fine
13:21:30  <brice_>hmm because I have a phonegap project bundle in my folder
13:23:07  <brice_>it doesnt need to be deployed but i need to keep it in this folder
13:24:12  <brice_>let me add it to .npmignore
13:27:30  <brice_>still the same
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13:29:00  <mmalecki>brice_: I'm seeing something weird going on here
13:29:01  <mmalecki>error: error:service type=user, message=Script prematurely exited, stdout=, stderr=Assertion failed: !!(events & UV__IO_READ) ^ !!(events & UV__IO_WRITE), file ../deps/uv/src/unix/stream.c, line 732, event=error:service
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13:31:54  <brice_>mmalecki: yep that's a new one
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13:33:09  <brice_>ok i get the usual error: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error
13:34:28  <coderarity>i think you already have that
13:34:42  <brice_>yep
13:34:49  <coderarity>wait, what? that made no sense
13:36:29  <brice_>the error mentioned by mmalecki was a typo I made in my .npmignore while removing the large size folders
13:36:51  <brice_>now it's back to the usual 500 I had all evening
13:37:27  <brice_>but at least its a smaller build now
13:38:18  <coderarity>i meant that what I said made no sense, but okay, that probably helps
13:40:13  <brice_>WAO, it finally went through!
13:40:24  <brice_>did you guys do anything?
13:40:49  <coderarity>script took too long to listen on a socket
13:40:54  <coderarity>your app probably just started faster
13:41:07  <coderarity>but you should move your listen to the beginning of your app
13:43:15  <brice_>alright, will try that tomorrow, thanks guys
13:44:55  <yawnt>brice_: what was the typo you entered into .npmignore?
13:45:12  <brice_>npm_modules :)
13:45:18  <brice_>it's late here!
13:45:20  <yawnt>ok
13:45:27  <yawnt>thanks
13:45:32  <brice_>node_modules sorry
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14:26:28  <navaru>is there a website build with flatiron available on GitHub?
14:26:35  <navaru>something more complex?
14:27:02  <navaru>please :)
14:28:15  <navaru>is there a way to handle sessions?
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14:42:15  <navaru>pksunkara: ok, thx
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14:56:01  <booyaa>chaps, is there a way to install the jitsu client w/o requiring su(do)?
14:56:21  <booyaa>npm -g install jitsu wants to install it in /usr/local/bin. i want it installed locally. is there a env var to set?
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14:57:33  <bebensiganteng>hi. i'm using express, but for some reason my stylesheet was not implmented on the html
14:57:34  <bebensiganteng>http://bebensiganteng.myapp.jit.su/
14:57:36  <bebensiganteng>please help
14:57:41  <pksunkara>booyaa: I think you should look into npm setup
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14:58:13  <bradleymeck>booyaa: if you want to install to a different directory thats with npm's config: see https://npmjs.org/doc/config.html#prefix
15:00:09  <booyaa>cheers guys
15:02:14  <bebensiganteng>oh damn, when i use npm start all my style got deleted
15:02:22  <bebensiganteng>cheers
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15:48:31  <Heisenberh>hello
15:48:38  <Heisenberh>i am using socket.io
15:48:49  <Heisenberh>and try to use redisstore
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15:49:14  <Heisenberh>var io = require('socket.io').listen(server), pub = redis.createClient(), sub = redis.createClient(), store = redis.createClient();
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15:49:37  <Heisenberh>io.configure( function() { io.set('log level', 1); // reduce logging var RedisStore = require('socket.io/lib/stores/redis'); io.set('store', new RedisStore({redisPub:pub, redisSub:sub, redisClient:store}));
15:49:41  <Heisenberh>int this way
15:49:46  <Heisenberh>but i get an error
15:49:48  <Heisenberh>that
15:49:50  <bebensiganteng>hi, i'm got this error during deployment https://gist.github.com/3974294 please help
15:49:57  <Heisenberh>Ready check failed: ERR operation not permitted
15:50:00  <Heisenberh>any idea ?
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15:51:17  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: are you getting an error if you use jitsu snapshots fetch?
15:51:38  <bebensiganteng>yes its after info: Starting app application-name
15:51:55  <bebensiganteng>then error appear
15:51:56  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: but you can locally download the snapshot?
15:52:08  <bebensiganteng>mm.. how do i do that?
15:52:12  <bradleymeck>Heisenberh: can you be more specific, like a stack trace?
15:52:22  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: `jitsu snapshots fetch`
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15:53:48  <bebensiganteng>i got another error from fetching the snap shot https://gist.github.com/3974320
15:54:12  <bebensiganteng>when i tried npm locally, evrything works fine
15:54:36  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: the names are listed above that, its not the name to save the file as, try with `name: 0.0.1-12`
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15:56:14  <bebensiganteng>its processing..
15:56:25  <Heisenberh>yes
15:56:37  <Heisenberh> at RedisClient.on_info_cmd (/Users/admin/Documents/Dev/tagmint/node_modules/socket.io/node_modules/redis/index.js:293:35) at Command.RedisClient.ready_check.send_anyway [as callback] (/Users/admin/Documents/Dev/tagmint/node_modules/socket.io/node_modules/redis/index.js:341:14) at RedisClient.return_error (/Users/admin/Documents/Dev/tagmint/node_modules/socket.io/node_modules/redis/index.js:464:25) at RedisReplyP
15:56:52  <Heisenberh>ups
15:56:56  <Heisenberh>uhm
15:57:15  <bebensiganteng>ok this is the result info: Snapshot 0.0.1-12 saved to file application-name-0.0.1-12.tgz.
15:57:58  <Heisenberh>at Command.RedisClient.ready_check.send_anyway [as callback] , at RedisClient.return_error , at RedisReplyParser.RedisClient.init_parser , at RedisReplyParser.EventEmitter.emit , at RedisReplyParser.send_error
15:58:02  <Heisenberh>thats about it
15:58:13  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: try to extract and see if it looks right, sounds like something in the snapshot got corrupt, just want to confirm, if it looks ok I would try to deploy again, might have been an oddity
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15:58:57  <bebensiganteng>how do i extract? or should i just retry it again?
15:59:32  <bradleymeck>you could just retry
15:59:40  <bradleymeck>extract with tar -xzf
16:00:13  <bebensiganteng>ok, i;m just going to retry
16:00:16  <bradleymeck>Heisenberh: unsure, looking at redis module it may be trying to do something that requires root privileges but it looks to be clobbering the error
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16:03:12  <bebensiganteng>tried it for 3 times, still error https://gist.github.com/3974294
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16:05:05  <bebensiganteng>please help
16:05:06  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: let me take a close look at the logs
16:05:15  <bebensiganteng>thanks
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16:07:26  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: i see a EBADPLATFORM from npm, npm by default will not say thats a failure when installing so that makes sense, sec wondering why log was not sent back
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16:09:23  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: node-fs is not installing due to its overly specific "os" field
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16:10:05  <christkv>anyone from nodejitsu that can comment on this ticket https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/issues/751
16:10:11  <bebensiganteng>hmm.. 1 hour it worked fine..
16:10:43  <bebensiganteng>do you have any suggestion please?
16:11:09  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: thinking
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16:14:46  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: I don't have an immediate solution, I am looking though
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16:15:40  <bebensiganteng>yes, please please please..
16:17:18  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: do you know how to use bundledDependencies? I would bundle node-fs and try removing the "os" field from package.json I am writing them an issue about this
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16:18:16  <bebensiganteng>no, i'm rather new with node.js, if you could please show me how.. please
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16:19:57  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: see http://package.json.jit.su/ , basically you want to add "bundledDependencies" to your package.json, this is an array of strings to bundle and keep when installing, deploying, etc. involving npm
16:20:11  <bradleymeck>so add "bundledDependencies": ["node-fs"]
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16:23:27  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: ill make an issue I need to do a burndown and figure this out
16:23:54  <bebensiganteng>i'm going to deploy it with ur method now...
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16:27:14  <bebensiganteng>hmm is this correct? https://gist.github.com/3974294
16:28:33  <bradleymeck>bebensiganteng: that seems fine on glance
16:28:43  <bebensiganteng>i see..
16:28:48  <bebensiganteng>ok thanks!
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16:36:48  <mmalecki[forest]>folks, ssl certificate has been renewed
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17:14:51  <sberryman>anyone around?
17:15:07  <cronopio>mmalecki[forest]: ++
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17:15:32  <sberryman>blakmatrix: haha, having some serious connection issues?
17:15:53  <blakmatrix>sberryman: what do you mean?
17:16:06  <sberryman>just saw you drop and reconnect
17:16:15  <sberryman>anyways.. do you have a second to look at one of my drones?
17:16:29  <sberryman>sberryman / teeleader-worker
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17:16:49  <blakmatrix>sberryman: sure
17:16:54  <sberryman>can you see if there is anything in the logs on the physical box? i'm not seeing anything of use in jitsu logs
17:17:11  <sberryman>the app was running find for about 30 seconds then died... wondering if it sucked up too much memory
17:17:17  <sberryman>fine*
17:17:20  <blakmatrix>let me get my windows/tunnels open, just logging in heh :)
17:18:22  <sberryman>it's funny because jitsu logs about 5 minutes ago returned some console logging i was doing but just ran jitsu logs again and it says "no logs for teeleader-wroker in specified timespan"
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17:19:04  <sberryman>and now there is log data again.. but nothing useful, still expecting that i consumed too much memory
17:19:54  <blakmatrix>sberryman: you see the logs ?
17:20:07  <sberryman>yeah, no errors though
17:20:10  <blakmatrix>nothing seems wrong from the logs
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17:20:55  <sberryman>nothing in your more detailed logs?
17:21:40  <blakmatrix>nothing you shouldnt have if your logs are caught up
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17:22:11  <sberryman>so that drone is basically serving no web traffic.. simply connects to a rabbitmq server and processes jobs
17:22:16  <blakmatrix>i can gist you but its just your app output :)
17:22:28  <sberryman>it ran for about 30 seconds then stopped but the connections to rabbit remained open
17:24:03  <sberryman>interesting.. i just ran it locally and it did the same thing
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17:24:13  <sberryman>and no errors :)
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17:50:37  <martin___>Hi guys, anyone around
17:51:29  <Jeffer>Hi, just upgraded to the latest jitsu npm (0.10.3-1) and I'm unable to deploy. Getting: "TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'resume'"
17:51:53  <Jeffer>executing from Cloud9, Node 0.6.x
17:52:18  <Jeffer>https://gist.github.com/3975187
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17:58:47  <wesbos>hey guys, are you still having trouble with SSL certs?
17:58:58  <wesbos>I know you tweeted it was fixed but I'm still getting errors
17:59:27  <wesbos>oh only on jit.su
17:59:31  <wesbos>not on nodejitsu.com
17:59:37  <wesbos>easy fix for me ;)
18:01:18  <martin___>@AvianFlu , @coderarity can one of you guys please comment at this thread regarding the nodejitsu / mongoose so that they can fix whatever needs to b fixed: https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/issues/751#issuecomment-9831269
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18:17:23  <Jeffer>Anyone??
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18:17:44  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: hi
18:17:52  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: did you have a question
18:18:20  <Jeffer>13:50] <Jeffer> Hi, just upgraded to the latest jitsu npm (0.10.3-1) and I'm unable to deploy. Getting: "TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'resume'"
18:18:33  <Jeffer>executing from Cloud9, Node 0.6.x
18:18:38  <Jeffer>https://gist.github.com/3975187
18:18:54  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: what is thier node version specifically?
18:19:07  <blakmatrix>ah
18:19:09  <Jeffer>v0.6.21
18:20:10  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: try installing [email protected]
18:21:05  <Jeffer>the latest is not compatible with 0.6.x?
18:21:42  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: it should be but we added a new feature with the progress bar, but it looks to perhaps have an issue on c9
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18:22:42  <Jeffer>got it
18:23:13  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: I have not actually tested 10.3-1 so i can't vouch for it, I know @0.10.2 should work, but if it gives you the same error then it most likely has somethign to do with the progress bar we added
18:24:44  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: just off the top of my head I am guessing it might be due to c9 not actually providin a true tty
18:24:49  <sberryman>blakmatrix: i just tried deploying and the progress bar got stuck at 6%
18:25:11  <blakmatrix>it might still be running
18:25:21  <sberryman>then i got an error where it couldnt find a git referenced module
18:25:47  <sberryman>Error: Cannot find module 'messagehub'
18:26:05  <sberryman>i'm using git:// in package.json
18:26:11  <blakmatrix>I know sometimes mine will look stuck but its actually
18:26:15  <blakmatrix>ah
18:26:23  <blakmatrix>sberryman: us http link
18:26:30  <sberryman>let me try that
18:26:48  <blakmatrix>sberryman: https://github.com/user/repo/tarball/branch
18:27:08  <sberryman>weird.. it looks like it is working this time around still using git
18:27:16  <blakmatrix>Jeffer: did it go through or did it actually error
18:27:23  <sberryman>blakmatrix: that link you just sent didnt work
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18:27:35  <blakmatrix>sberryman: of course not
18:27:39  <blakmatrix>sberryman: lol
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18:29:50  <sberryman>blakmatrix: LOL i didn't even realize i was supposed to fill it in
18:29:56  <sberryman>my brain must not be working today :)
18:30:01  <blakmatrix>lol
18:30:46  <sberryman>since when did we have to start using tarballs?
18:31:36  <Jeffer>trying to deploy with 0.9.8 but it`s quite slow... stay tuned
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18:32:06  <sberryman>blakmatrix: still didn't work with a tarball
18:32:21  <blakmatrix>sberryman: odd
18:32:29  <blakmatrix>can you gist me the whole output
18:32:53  <sberryman>sure, just tried switching back to npm source to see what happened
18:33:09  <Jeffer>blakmatrix: aight, working now. Thanks!
18:33:15  <sberryman>blakmatrix: https://gist.github.com/3975529
18:33:41  <sberryman>looks like the build server isnt packaging up non npm packages
18:33:52  <caseywebdev>does anyone know the correct `start.script` value for deploying a coffeescript app?
18:34:02  <sberryman>because it worked fine when i switched to the npm version
18:34:18  <sberryman>caseywebdev: "start": "coffee app.coffee"
18:34:22  <blakmatrix>caseywebdev: 'coffee <filename>'
18:34:31  <caseywebdev>hrm it's not working =\
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18:35:12  <blakmatrix>caseywebdev: got a gist
18:35:17  <caseywebdev>yea one sec
18:35:25  <blakmatrix>caseywebdev: and error output
18:36:59  <caseywebdev>https://gist.github.com/3975560
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18:40:25  <caseywebdev>in the previous deploy, having made no changes since, I reached the "Starting app: <appname>" state at which time it hung until "error: Error: socket hang up" was eventually thrown
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18:43:43  <blakmatrix>caseywebdev: try uping the version number manually, sometimes our cloudfiles service throws a fit
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18:45:01  <blakmatrix>sberryman: what is messagehub
18:45:17  <sberryman>a very simple wrapper around AMQP
18:45:19  <blakmatrix>is it supposed to be installed via a submodule or something
18:45:29  <sberryman>nah, standard package.json
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18:45:43  <blakmatrix>sberryman: anyways its just sayig it cant find it
18:46:02  <sberryman>blakmatrix: just sent you my package.json for that project
18:46:22  <sberryman>well, that is the WORKING packagin.json.. if i try and use the tarball link you sent me it doesnt work
18:46:23  <caseywebdev>blakmatrix: that worked, thanks! weird...bug?
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18:50:17  <blakmatrix>https://github.com/:username/:reponame/tarball/:branchname doesnt work ?
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18:55:23  <sberryman>nope
18:55:28  <sberryman>it works fine downloading it
18:55:33  <sberryman>but when deploying it doesnt find it
18:55:59  <sberryman>HAHAHA
18:56:01  <sberryman>i know why
18:56:08  <sberryman>it is a fucking coffeescript module :)
18:56:46  <sberryman>blakmatrix: sorry about that, i should have noticed that
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18:57:28  <blakmatrix>sberryman: heh
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18:59:12  <blakmatrix>sberryman: yeah but it does hav "prepublish": "node_modules/.bin/coffee -c index.coffee" so i mean i'd think it work.. howver if coffee-script is a dev dependency our servers wont install it
18:59:25  <sberryman>right
19:00:00  <sberryman>and it is a dev dep
19:00:16  <sberryman>at least i my project... i try and compile all coffeescript before deploy
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19:16:54  <cdarling>Are there any updates on when Nodejitsu will support TCP sockets?
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19:17:59  <blakmatrix>cdarling: non yet sorry
19:19:10  <cdarling>blakmatrix: thanks, thats the feature i'm waiting on
19:19:34  <cdarling>out of curiosity, what is the biggest challenge with supporting sockets, it seems like none of the big Node hosts do
19:21:09  <blakmatrix>websockets?
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19:21:38  <cdarling>no, raw TCP sockets
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19:25:49  <blakmatrix>cdarling: well as I understand it its more of a security concern, we have talked about providing a few standard aditional ports like 8080, ftp, and a few others. The only minor issue would be modifying the balancers to attempt to route to the given port rather than the one running http
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19:27:25  <cdarling>blakmatrix: that does make sense, and glad it doesn't sound like a major technical challenge and is more of a time issue
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19:31:02  <blakmatrix>cdarling: I think its more of a when do we want to support this, and then basically flip a switch, I'm venturing to guess that after you see stats in your dashboard and ability to scale apps up and down as you please, and business plans, that supporting additional ports to open on an app will soon follow
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19:32:35  <cdarling>that makes a lot of sense. I'm working on a webapp that needs raw sockets and that is the only thing holding me back from using nodejitsu (though I guess I might use it for the API side)
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19:47:21  * mmalecki[forest]topic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud status: Still having issues with redistogo | [email protected] is out! UPGRADE
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19:57:36  <jaha>cant deploy! https://gist.github.com/3976126, also the jitsu version showing is wrong, and jitsu —version still shows 0.9.8 even after fresh install of 0.10.3-1
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19:59:17  <jaha>"npm ls" shows correct version
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19:58:18  * mmalecki[forest]topic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud status: Still having issues with redistogo | [email protected] is out! UPGRADE
19:58:35  <jesusabdullah>did you install jitsu locally on accident instead of globally?
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19:59:08  <jesusabdullah>also what happens if you get rid of nodemailer? That's like a 25MB dependency
19:59:47  <jaha>nope, npm rm jitsu, says it isnt installed locally
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20:05:18  <jaha>jesusabdullah: trying
20:05:45  <jaha>jesusabdullah: woops, i mean trying without nodemailer
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20:07:58  <blakmatrix>jaha: so where are you at right now
20:08:28  <jaha>welp, seemed to deploy
20:08:29  <blakmatrix>I want you to run `sudo npm cache clear`
20:08:42  <blakmatrix>then `sudo npm remove jitsu`
20:09:21  <blakmatrix>then `sudo npm remove jitsu -g`
20:09:22  <blakmatrix>then `sudo npm install jitsu -g`
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20:09:30  <blakmatrix>just to cover all the bases
20:09:40  <blakmatrix>oh you got it working
20:09:43  <blakmatrix>nvm then
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20:12:33  <jaha>blakmatrix: also i dont have npm installed under sudo
20:12:42  <coderarity>hurricane livestream anyone?
20:13:03  <jaha>blakmatrix: but thanks for the reminder about cache clear, i always forget
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20:15:04  <blakmatrix>st_luke: how much of an impact is it supposed to make
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20:21:16  <unca>hi folks! I'm having some trouble migrating from no.de to nodejitsu. When I deploy I occasionally get an error that says "Cannot find module 'connect-form'" and occasionally I get an error that says that the script took too long to listen on a socket.
20:21:44  <unca>I have connect-form in my bundledDependencies
20:22:14  <yawnt>unca: hey
20:22:44  <yawnt>unca: when the script took too long to listen on a socket it means that you should move your .listen()
20:23:09  <yawnt>as soon as possible in your script..
20:23:17  <unca>thanks yawnt, i'll try that
20:23:31  <yawnt>unca: about the connect-form, do you have it also in dependencies?
20:23:53  <unca>i do, but when i remove it, it keeps adding it automatically when i try to deploy.
20:24:24  <yawnt>it has to be in dependencies
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20:24:58  <yawnt>also it's optional to set it in bundledDeps, any reason you're using that field?
20:25:09  <blakmatrix>unca: you might also try adding "analyze" : false to your package.json
20:25:34  <blakmatrix>if it keeps addign things you dont want it to
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20:28:59  <unca>i'm still getting the connect-form error. it's in both bundledDependencies and dependencies. Any other suggestions?
20:29:12  <yawnt>can i see your package.json?
20:29:24  <unca>sure, give me a second
20:29:26  <yawnt>you can paste it here http://gist.github.com
20:29:27  <yawnt>:)
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20:30:14  <unca>=
20:30:20  <unca>yawnt: http://pastebin.com/9cGt6zP3
20:30:27  <yawnt>thanks
20:30:32  <unca>i can put it on github too if you want
20:30:39  <yawnt>nah it's fine
20:31:33  <yawnt>unca: did you edit something in connect-form that you're using bundledDeps?
20:32:13  <unca>no, i don't think so -- i put it in there because i was getting the error earlier and found that as a suggestion when i googled it. It seemed to resolve the issue for awhile, but now it's back.
20:32:24  <jaha>blakmatrix: still cant get the jitsu version to display correctly, any idea?
20:32:41  <yawnt>unca: can you try to take them out and re-deploy?
20:32:50  <unca>sure
20:33:27  <blakmatrix>jaha: did you run those commands i sent you in order without the sudo
20:34:17  <jaha>yup, did the remove and cache clear with sudo as well
20:34:54  <unca>yawnt: i'm still getting the same error about connect-form -- i removed all of the bundleddependencies
20:35:20  <yawnt>unca: can i see jitsu's output?
20:35:39  <blakmatrix>jaha: do it again but before you install make sure its removed from your computer like, find where its stored and make sure it properly gets deleted
20:36:22  <blakmatrix>also you're not doing anything funky like using nvm, n or brew ?
20:37:00  <unca>+yawnt: http://pastebin.com/S4gNaQFP
20:40:40  <yawnt>unca: i think i know what that is
20:40:43  <yawnt>one second :)
20:40:59  <unca>yawnt: awesome, thanks!
20:42:46  <yawnt>unca: so ok
20:42:49  <yawnt>this is what you have to do
20:43:03  <unca>yawnt: ok, i'm listening
20:43:08  <yawnt>go into node_modules/conect_form
20:43:28  <yawnt>create a file index.js with inside "module.exports = require('./lib/connect-form');"
20:43:39  <jaha>blakmatrix: finally found it, thanks
20:43:54  <blakmatrix>jaha what was the issue?
20:43:54  <yawnt>unca: then add just connect-form to your bundled Dependencies and try deploying
20:44:09  <blakmatrix>jaha: just wasnt properly removing old version?
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20:45:22  <jaha>blakmatrix: correct, not sure why yet, other pkgs were removing and installing just fine, might have just been a fluke
20:45:48  <jaha>or might have installed it weird awhile back for some reason
20:46:22  <unca>yawnt: there is already an index.js file there, but i edited it and added your suggestion at the end. i'm still getting the error. :(
20:46:41  <yawnt>hold, trying to reproduce
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20:51:58  <yawnt>unca: it works for me :\
20:52:12  <yawnt>can you paste me what you have in node_modules/connect-form/index.js please?
20:52:25  <yawnt>and your new package.json ^^
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20:59:02  <unca>yawnt: here is the index.js file, which includes your changes: https://gist.github.com/3976504
21:00:13  <unca>yawnt: here is the new package.json: https://gist.github.com/3976513
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21:00:58  <jaha>blakmatrix: turned out it was a problem with homebrew and npm, older version of node on homebrew didnt include npm, new one did, when i upgraded to node 0.8.12 it essentially duplicated the npm install
21:01:17  <jaha>…. i think
21:01:25  <yawnt>unca: ok, do so please, remove your node_modules/connect-form folder.. then in your app folder run npm install connect-form
21:02:01  <yawnt>then add an index.js file with *just* "module.exports = require('./lib/connect-form');
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21:02:08  <yawnt>and try redeploying, it worked for me :)
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21:03:25  * mmalecki[forest]topic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud status: Still having issues with redistogo | [email protected] is out! UPGRADE
21:03:16  <yawnt>(the index.js file goes in node_modules/connect-form
21:03:17  <yawnt>)
21:05:04  <Raynos>o/
21:05:10  <yawnt>hey Raynos
21:05:15  <Raynos>Do you guys have a server / application monitoring solution for smartOS
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21:06:39  <kevindente>I don't seem to be able to deploy to Nodejitsu at the moment. Get a "socket hang up" time out error.
21:08:13  <yawnt>kevindente: can i see your package.json and jitsu's full output?
21:09:00  <unca>yawnt: that helped! Thank you! It deployed! But now, I'm getting an internal server error. :-/ Is there anything special I need to include in my package.json to connect to a provisioned redis and/or mongo database?
21:09:50  <unca>yawnt: or is there any way I can view the logs from my application?
21:09:59  <kevindente>yawnt: here's a Gist https://gist.github.com/3976561
21:10:01  <yawnt>unca: yep `jitsu logs app <appName>'
21:10:22  <yawnt>kevindente: how big is your app?
21:10:44  <yawnt>also you could try to set a bigger timeout `jitsu config set timeout <number>`
21:10:49  <yawnt>where number is in millisecond
21:12:59  <kevindente>yawnt: 80MB including node_modules. 35MB without node_modules
21:13:20  <kevindente>yawnt: I'll bump the timeout. What's the default
21:13:38  <yawnt>kevindente: i think it's 24000 ?
21:13:54  <yawnt>kevindente: you can check with `jits conf`
21:14:30  <kevindente>yawnt: says 240000
21:14:31  <yawnt>*jitsu
21:14:40  <yawnt>yeah missed a zero :D
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21:16:39  <unca>yawnt: any suggestions on how to debug an "Internal Server Error" -- that's all I'm getting when I go to my deployed application. The app is using a redis and mongo database.
21:17:32  <yawnt>unca: can i see the full output of jitsu?
21:17:46  <yawnt>because internal server can be a lot of stuff :)
21:19:09  <unca>yawnt: yes it can be. I noticed that above it says "Cloud status: Still having issues with redistogo" so I figured I'd start by checking on the redis connection.
21:19:27  <unca>I'm redeploying now, so I'll get you the full output in a second
21:20:11  <yawnt>unca: thanks
21:21:43  <unca>yawnt: i'm still occasionally getting the "Script took too long to listen on a socket" when I deploy.
21:22:09  <yawnt>unca: http listening is something you should do ASAP in your code
21:22:25  <yawnt>because there's a certain amount of time in which your script must start listening
21:22:33  <yawnt>unca: what are you doing before calling .listen?
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21:25:04  <unca>yawnt: https://gist.github.com/3976639
21:25:28  <yawnt>unca: so deploy worked
21:25:38  <yawnt>it's a matter of your code :D
21:25:56  <yawnt>code works fine locally?
21:26:03  <yawnt>*does your code
21:26:06  <unca>yawnt: yes, deploy is working -- but when i go to the app it says "Internal Server Error" and I'm not getting anything in my logs
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21:27:11  <yawnt>unca: you could listen for errors in your app
21:27:14  <yawnt>and log them via console.log
21:27:23  <yawnt>and then debug that way :)
21:28:11  <unca>yawnt: that's what I'm about to start doing! Thank you! I'm migrating from no.de and this app has been working there for over a year now. I'll keep trying, though. Thank you again.
21:29:01  <yawnt>unca: anytime, if you happen to have any other trouble with the platform just join here, and i'll do my best to help you!
21:29:16  <yawnt>(or someone else if i'm asleep, 11:30 pm here :P)
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21:31:42  <kevindente>yawnt: ok bumped up the timeout, and now I can deploy. Thanks
21:32:14  <yawnt>kevindente: my pleasure :)
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21:33:07  <Jeffer>Hey guys, haven't had much success deploying my app so far. Been having the "socket hang up" issue very often. Any clue?
21:33:09  <Jeffer>https://gist.github.com/3976674
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21:34:03  <coderarity>Jeffer: checking
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21:38:02  <coderarity>Jeffer: https://gist.github.com/7757de10b12775f90142
21:39:25  <coderarity>Jeffer: I'd focus on the first error for now - gotta have your server.listen at the beginning of your script
21:39:25  <Jeffer>hummmm weird
21:39:28  <coderarity>right after you create the server, listen on it
21:40:29  <Jeffer>ok thanks I'll look into it
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21:49:35  <coti>hi there, any news about SSL ?
21:50:16  <coti>you should make a platform status .. to see if is, or not healthy
21:50:18  <yawnt>it's fixed :)
21:50:37  <coderarity>except jit.su
21:50:41  <coderarity>but that didn't work before
21:50:52  <coti>well, i get 404 for css files
21:51:08  <coderarity>i don't think the SSL stuff caused 404's anyways
21:51:15  <coti>GET https://webops.nodejitsu.com/css/base.dev.css 404 (OK)
21:51:45  <coderarity>`3rdEden: ^
21:51:47  <coti>and few other images
21:51:59  <coti>same 404 error for them
21:52:06  <coderarity>just deployed a new webops i think
21:52:07  <`3rdEden>Looking in to it
21:52:55  <`3rdEden>coti: Thanks for the head's up <3!
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21:53:33  <coti>de nada ;) my pleasure
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21:54:24  <kevindente>Got my app deployed, but trying to stop and start it again, and getting " Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error" trying to re-start it
21:55:09  <blakmatrix>kevindente: yo dont need to stop and start, just run start only
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21:56:02  <kevindente>blakmatrix: That's what I tried first. Didn't work either
21:56:14  <blakmatrix>kevindente: what is your username
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21:56:57  <kevindente>blakmatrix: kevindente
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22:12:30  <`3rdEden>coti: I pushed out a fix, thanks again for reporting it!
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22:12:39  <Nodejitsu-Github>[haibu] mmalecki pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/c4KlmQ
22:12:39  <Nodejitsu-Github>haibu/master e33631d flybyme: [FIX] variable e renamed to err
22:12:39  <Nodejitsu-Github>haibu/master de39d84 Maciej Małecki: Merge pull request #129 from MangoRaft/master...
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22:13:40  <deoxxa[cookies]>lol
22:13:45  <deoxxa[cookies]>those commit messages
22:13:46  <coti>;) it works now
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22:18:25  <coti>`3rdEden i still cannot pay with my visa (both clasic and electron). an email was sent yesterday regarding this issue
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22:22:54  <`3rdEden>coti: I have only resolved the broken interface in this push
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22:24:33  <coti>i know, i know :p take your time, there is no hurry
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22:48:35  <rubukles87>hi
22:49:37  <aich>hey guys, i was wondering if anyone is aware of any issues with socket.io heartbeats over nodejitsu's SSL? at seemingly random intervals, socket.io will terminate the client and they will auto-reconnect. browser consoles (chrome, firefox, iceweasel) report that the websocket URL was unreachable
22:51:32  <rubukles87>i cant upload my newbie app to nodejitsu :(
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22:56:38  <blakmatrix>Aich: how are you running your reports?
22:56:51  <blakmatrix>rubukles87: what seems to be the issue/?
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23:01:47  <aich>i apologize, my internet went out (i'm in the hurricane), so i don't know if anyone was able to answer me
23:02:16  <blakmatrix>aich: how are you getting these reports
23:02:52  <aich>you mean about the URL being unreachable?
23:03:00  <aich>from the browser error console
23:03:22  <blakmatrix>aich: I have been trying to identify an issue other ppl have been reporting, but like I'll use same browser and OS and it'll work perfec for me
23:03:43  <aich>i.e. "wss://aich.jitsu.com/socket.io/1/t=[somenumber] is not found"
23:03:49  <blakmatrix>aich: same goes for the rest of support folks
23:04:01  <aich>that is not the exact error message.
23:04:13  <aich>hmm
23:04:43  <aich>well it only happens occasionally, which i think would make it difficult to replicate
23:05:08  <aich>for example, i fired up four different browsers on two OS today, and waited around to see if any of them would do it
23:05:29  <aich>iceweasel on linux and firefox on Mac both had the issue, but chrome (Iinux) and safari were OK
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23:06:12  <aich>BUT all these browsers have had the issue in the past, so i don't know why only some would show it today
23:06:40  <aich>and it took over an hour for it to happen
23:07:01  <aich>however when there are a lot of people chatting it seems to happen more frequently
23:08:01  <blakmatrix>aich: is wss://aich.jitsu.com/socket.io/1/t=[somenumber even valid ? I've never seen that in socket.io only http link
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23:09:26  <aich>i'm not sure. i'm not generating that URL. it is something being generated by socket.io. i assume it is the URL called by the client for heartbeats. t appears to be a timestamp
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23:12:19  <aich>@blakmatrix: here is my latest error message from iceweasel: Timestamp: 10/29/2012 07:06:52 PM Error: The connection to wss://aich.jitsu.com/socket.io/1/websocket/YnjtHpeRzMdKYZY2lJ1Q was interrupted while the page was loading. Source File: https://aich.jitsu.com/socket.io/socket.io.js Line: 2
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23:17:49  <marciopuga>Hi guys
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23:19:45  <mmalecki>jesusabdullah: where are you going btw?
23:20:07  <jesusabdullah>alaska!
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23:20:49  <mmalecki>sweet!
23:22:07  <jesusabdullah>just like in the simpsons movie
23:22:36  <jesusabdullah>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WNJtmAvxi8
23:22:46  <jesusabdullah>CLAP FOR ALASKA
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23:35:01  <AvianFlu>sup marciopuga
23:35:37  <marciopuga>nothing much AvianFlu, I just come here from time to time to check what's happening :)
23:35:41  <jesusabdullah>https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/134698_10151137056395958_1425245432_o.jpg best costumes
23:36:11  <blakmatrix>ol greg is missing
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23:36:33  <warz>im ol gregggg
23:36:50  <jesusabdullah>old greg was not in settlers
23:37:01  <blakmatrix>jesusabdullah: yes he was
23:37:48  <jesusabdullah>incorrect
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23:38:03  <jcrugzz>do you guys support ffmpeg?
23:39:03  <blakmatrix>jesusabdullah: you ever play the halloween version of settlers of cataan? ol gregs in there
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23:39:33  <jesusabdullah>no?
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23:46:11  <mmalecki>oh damn, I need a halloween costume
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23:49:22  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: how would a halloween costume of a crazy uncle devops look like?
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23:50:14  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: an old man... somehow tech related
23:50:17  <AvianFlu>but I don't really know
23:50:58  <mmalecki>I need a keyboard
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23:54:46  <jesusabdullah>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSQuxh3FYc
23:55:04  <jesusabdullah>mmalecki: suspenders and a beard
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23:56:02  <mmalecki>jesusabdullah: lolz, great idea
23:56:08  <mmalecki>but I need a beard
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