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00:09:28  <jesusabdullah>bengourley: http://dns.jit.su will probably answer a few of your questons
00:09:50  <jesusabdullah>bengourley: if not get back to me
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00:38:37  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/errs/compare/c5a35834d7e7...034291ea4eb4
00:38:37  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/errs/builds/3026413
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00:47:20  <glamp>hi guys
00:47:45  <glamp>how do i upgrade my plan so i can have more apps? i'm out of drones and I can't figure out to add another without unsubscribing
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00:54:58  <mmalecki>glamp: hi
00:55:12  <mmalecki>glamp: well, simply select a bigger plan in the app screen
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02:03:42  <Cygnus_X>my app seems to have crashed and won't restart
02:09:33  <Cygnus_X>seems like nobody is around
02:09:34  <Cygnus_X>: \
02:12:27  <Cygnus_X>switching pcs...
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02:15:30  <Cygnus_X>hmm... nm
02:16:07  <Cygnus_X>seems like i have a firewall on my other comp :X
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02:22:56  <martin__>Failure to deploy - need help - some npm issue with your npm version - gist here; https://gist.github.com/3998301
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02:25:31  <martin__>anyone here?
02:26:22  <martin__>...
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02:29:26  <martin__>anyone home
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02:31:08  <martin__>hmm
02:31:54  <mmalecki>sup martin__
02:31:59  <martin__>hi mmalecki
02:32:25  <martin__>I am a bit unhappy right now. Deployment does not work with the latest version of express: https://gist.github.com/3998301
02:32:30  <martin__>had to downgrade
02:32:40  <mmalecki>oh, interesting
02:32:45  <mmalecki>JasonSmith: you around?
02:32:47  <martin__>and my control panel is confusing me, it tells me that one of my sites has no plan,
02:33:06  <martin__>I mean no subscription
02:33:20  <martin__>the other ones though do
02:33:31  <martin__>help me please :-)
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02:35:56  <mmalecki>hrrmm, for some reason our irisnpm didn't replicate express properly
02:36:26  <martin__>--> Wishes that he would not be the one who discovers this stuff :-)
02:38:47  <jesusabdullah>I see
02:41:10  <martin__>btw, can someone check my account modeista , There is some weird stuff going on, one site is not under a subscription,
02:42:07  <jesusabdullah>martin__: wait, what's the situation exactly?
02:43:07  <martin__>@jesusabdullah I subscribed to the 11 buck plan and 3 of my 4 sites are assigned to the subcription, and the fourth, modeista-identity is not. The interface is a bit confusing and I don't know that to do
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02:47:17  <jesusabdullah>hmmm
02:47:50  <jesusabdullah>wait
02:49:08  <martin__>waiting :-)
02:49:16  <jesusabdullah>I was under the impression that yould not assign more than one app to a plan
02:50:01  <martin__>which would be rather stupid, and make nodejitsu unmanageable.
02:51:04  <martin__>Frankly, I would suggest to get rid of the plan nonesense alltogether and only offer small and large nodes per hour, with a minimum monthly commitment of $20 or so
02:51:30  <martin__>right now it is just confusing to the point of annoyance
02:51:30  <mmalecki>martin__: just choose the large plan from the dropdown for 4th app
02:51:57  <martin__>mmalecki ok, i will do that. Let's hope it does not break ;-)
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02:52:57  <mmalecki>I'll refund you if it charges you any unexpected amount
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02:53:34  <martin__>ok, i did that. Now I am testing the limits of the system and upgrade to the large plan.
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02:55:44  <martin__>mmalecki, can you check that I am now using only the large plan with my modeista account
02:56:34  <martin__>really, you will lose customers with this. Simplify it, and please show exactly what people are paying now and what, based on the current usage, the expected monthly payment will be.
02:57:56  <martin__>and while we are at it, please specify if you are billing by the second, per hour or per wall clock hour. This was one of heroku's core strengths when they started
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03:01:03  <ngreenwood6>just had a quick question...if I am using socket.io and have my app on multiple drones...will the messages emit across all the different drones...meaning if I want to send all users a message but users are on separate drones will they all receive it?
03:01:41  <jesusabdullah>ngreenwood6: no, you have to do that yourself
03:01:48  <martin__>how can I change the number of drones again?
03:01:54  <jesusabdullah>ngreenwood6: I believe socket.io has stuff for rebroadcasting over redis
03:01:57  <mmalecki>martin__: `jitsu apps setdrones`
03:02:02  <martin__>thx
03:02:48  <ngreenwood6>yeah i didnt that it would work like that but i figured it was worth a shot :) .... i will check out the rebroadcasting over redis
03:03:32  <jesusabdullah>fo' shizzle ngreenwood6
03:03:52  <ngreenwood6>@jesusabdullah do u know of any good starting boilerplates that are for real world usage....most of them i find have all the routes in the server.js file and I think thats just plain bad practice
03:04:54  <martin__>mmalecki setdrones just gave me this: https://gist.github.com/3998469
03:05:33  <martin__>and this on a second site https://gist.github.com/3998471
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03:09:34  <mmalecki>martin__: looking at the first one, appers to be a bad drone
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03:14:41  <martin__>mmalecki not sure what's going on behind the scenes, but this needs to be handled better, especially from a feedback perspective. Basically, if I do a setdrones I care that at some point it is set to X, but it does not have to be as a result of the setdrones request. So setdrones should always ok, and your backend system should find a good drone, and retry if it hits a bad one.
03:15:39  <mmalecki>that's a good point and we're working on that. not sure if you've noticed but ECONNREFUSED doesn't happen at all anymore :)
03:15:59  <mmalecki>so at this point it's a matter of adding a handler to haibu
03:16:06  <martin__>mmalecki haha, it got better, I grant you that :-)
03:16:14  <mmalecki>and changing the error code handling on the master API side
03:16:26  <mmalecki>which I'll be glad to code when it's not 4 AM
03:16:30  <mmalecki>;)
03:16:39  <martin__>ah, still in poland I presume
03:16:49  <martin__>well, that's a work ethic
03:16:57  <martin__>or was it hungary?
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03:17:47  <mmalecki>heh, Poland
03:17:53  <martin__>thought so
03:19:32  <martin__>mmalecki the first one worked on a second attempt
03:19:44  <martin__>the other one though fails constantly
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03:23:03  <mmalecki>yup, I fixed some drones
03:23:13  <mmalecki>looking into second one npw
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03:35:52  <jesusabdullah>ngreenwood6: for socket.io? No
03:35:59  <jesusabdullah>sorry guys, I had to step out for a minute
03:36:46  <ngreenwood6>@jesusabdullah not really for socket.io just a good starting point in general for building a site...separation in logic u know
03:37:16  <jesusabdullah>I know of expressling for express
03:37:25  <jesusabdullah>the thing is, everyone organizes their apps a little differently
03:37:32  <jesusabdullah>here's how I do it:
03:37:45  <jesusabdullah>your main app is defined as an export in ./index.js
03:37:53  <jesusabdullah>you have middlewares in ./middlewares
03:37:58  <jesusabdullah>libraries in ./lib
03:38:37  <jesusabdullah>maybe a few other dirs depending on how you structure things---maybe you have a file that defines routes against some model that you've defined already
03:38:48  <jesusabdullah>maybe a ./templates folder
03:38:57  <jesusabdullah>static contents in ./static or ./public
03:39:29  <jesusabdullah>and in ./bin/app, you just have, require('../index').listen(port, host, function (err) { /* ... */ });
03:39:34  <jesusabdullah>does that make sense ngreenwood6 ?
03:40:41  <martin__>looked into expressling, don't use the db like this, instead use the repository pattern and encapsulate all your db logic in a module that you require into your routes code. Otherwise this gets ugly very fast
03:41:21  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/jesusabdullah/waybacker this is an app I wrote which is a little different; the index.js exposes things I can require elsewhere, whereas the bin is where I define the app
03:41:25  <jesusabdullah>this app also uses resourceful
03:41:58  <ngreenwood6>yeah thats pretty much the path that I have kind of gone down in structuring mine...however, I am using vhosts so I can later add subdomains that can share the models and so forth so that I dont duplicate logic
03:42:01  <jesusabdullah>I wrote https://github.com/jesusabdullah/piston a few days ago, still rough around the edges and doesn't use a framework, but maybe this will give you some ideas
03:44:00  <martin__>mmalecki need to leave, they kick me out of peets now :-) back online in about 30 mins
03:44:30  <jesusabdullah>martin__: if mmalecki is crashed out (I hope so, he needs sleep) come talk to me
03:44:38  <jesusabdullah>martin__: I might not respond immediately but I'll be here until late
03:44:51  <martin__>jesusabdullah I will, thx
03:44:57  <mmalecki>martin__: I know the reason now
03:45:10  <martin__>ah
03:45:12  <martin__>ok
03:45:18  <mmalecki>but as jesusabdullah said, it's 4 AM and I need myself some sleep so this will have to wait, sorry :(
03:45:30  <martin__>can stay here a tad bit longer, although they are looking at me with ath look :-)
03:45:52  <mmalecki>I'll get back to you with a solution
03:46:24  <ngreenwood6>@jesusabdullah thanks for the help
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03:47:22  <jesusabdullah>ngreenwood6: you're welcome
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03:48:50  <mmalecki>martin__: WAIT
03:49:00  <mmalecki>martin__: when was the last deploy to that application?
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04:15:12  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: just got a socket hang up when doing a deploy
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04:19:16  <jesusabdullah>mdedetrich: you need to tell me more or I can't really help. Do you have logs? how about a username and applicaiton name?
04:19:22  <jesusabdullah>no I haven't memorized it
04:19:26  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: username is 3dot
04:19:33  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: app name is templavent
04:20:01  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/cd03d4c50cc32d9b7eb0
04:20:04  <mdedetrich>thats the log
04:20:21  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: and its the second last deploy (or the last one that worked unsuccessfully)
04:20:27  <jesusabdullah>mdedetrich: what comes before that?
04:20:34  <jesusabdullah>mdedetrich: I need to see what passed as well as what failed
04:20:57  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/43e467ade626519bac80
04:21:22  <jesusabdullah>okay so it failed on app server start
04:21:37  <mdedetrich>yup
04:21:56  <mdedetrich>probably a bad drone again
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04:34:13  <martin__>back again, mmalecki, jesusabdulah, still have troubles with second site setdrones. Any news while I was gone
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04:39:12  <JasonSmith>jesusabdullah: mmalecki[zzz] npm packages are synced and syncing once again
04:39:22  <jesusabdullah>JasonSmith: hooray!
04:39:44  <jesusabdullah>JasonSmith: what happened? <_<;
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04:40:07  <JasonSmith>jesusabdullah: Bug in my code reacting to a server passing through a reboot state
04:40:17  <JasonSmith>where bug means "if(er) throw er"
04:40:19  <JasonSmith>Puta madre
04:40:25  <jesusabdullah>lulz
04:40:29  <jesusabdullah>the best kind of error
04:40:40  <jesusabdullah>you forgot, while :; do everything; done
04:41:25  <JasonSmith>Hey man, while true ; do stuff ; done got Iris Couch through its first year
04:41:46  <jesusabdullah>damned straight
04:41:47  <JasonSmith>Big while-true-do-everything-done fan here
04:42:07  <jesusabdullah>the only downside is when you get like
04:42:17  <jesusabdullah>so many respins you just hvae to spam ctrl-c and pray
04:42:24  <JasonSmith>Actually in production for a while we had while true; do ./whatever.js ; sleep 5 ; done
04:42:37  <jesusabdullah>yeah, I mean
04:42:43  <jesusabdullah>that's a little smarter XD
04:42:51  <jesusabdullah>but I don't always remember to throw in a sleep statement
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04:46:18  <deoxxa[cookies]>JasonSmith: +1
04:46:33  <deoxxa[cookies]>we used to have about 20 screen sessions open with exactly that haha
04:46:41  <deoxxa[cookies]>while true; do ./app.js; sleep 1; done;
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04:48:00  <jesusabdullah>lol
04:48:06  <jesusabdullah>I learned about nohup at one point
04:48:41  <jesusabdullah>in grad school
04:49:08  <jesusabdullah>when I tried to home-roll parallelization with a program that fought with me every step of the way
04:49:13  <jesusabdullah>and of course it was terrible
04:49:24  <deoxxa[cookies]>heh
04:49:24  <jesusabdullah>and then the new licensing rules kicked in and it was all moot
04:49:34  <jesusabdullah>I wasted like a month trying to parallelize it
04:49:49  <jesusabdullah>my advisor was like, "you could've done all these by hand by now"
04:49:52  <jesusabdullah>"...yeah :("
04:50:29  <jesusabdullah>oh also the machines were running like, fedora 7
04:50:43  <jesusabdullah>it was so ancient I couldn't get node 0.4.x to compile on it
04:50:48  <jesusabdullah>due to stale gcc
04:51:14  <deoxxa[cookies]>ah, the life of a student
04:51:22  <deoxxa[cookies]>a life i have never and will hopefully never experience
04:51:40  <jesusabdullah>I had a good time with it tbh
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04:52:04  <jesusabdullah>yo deoxxa[cookies] I built a golden bridge on fknsrs.biz and when I came back it was GONE
04:52:07  <jesusabdullah>WHAT THE HELL MAAAN
04:52:12  <deoxxa[cookies]>yeah, sry
04:52:16  <jesusabdullah>lol
04:52:17  <deoxxa[cookies]>it doesn't track block placement
04:52:21  <jesusabdullah>oh really?
04:52:21  <deoxxa[cookies]>also it crashes reaaaaally often
04:52:24  <jesusabdullah>oh dang
04:52:27  <deoxxa[cookies]>and there's no persistence
04:52:28  <deoxxa[cookies]>haha
04:52:31  <jesusabdullah>nice terrain gen though
04:52:33  <jesusabdullah>lulz
04:52:44  <deoxxa[cookies]>yeah it's using node-simplex
04:52:49  <deoxxa[cookies]>pure js simplex noise generation thing
04:52:51  <deoxxa[cookies]>pretty sweet
04:52:53  <jesusabdullah>I see
04:53:10  <jesusabdullah>I still want to use the "for real deal" terrain generator
04:53:24  <jesusabdullah>somehow convince a "real" mc server to do just that and then crash
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04:55:23  <deoxxa[cookies]>you can
04:55:31  <deoxxa[cookies]>basically the way you do it is like
04:55:46  <deoxxa[cookies]>you edit the nbt structure in the world file on a real server
04:55:49  <deoxxa[cookies]>set the spawn point to 0,0
04:55:54  <deoxxa[cookies]>start the server
04:55:59  <deoxxa[cookies]>kill the server after it generates the spawn area
04:56:11  <deoxxa[cookies]>modify it to 7*16,7*16
04:56:13  <deoxxa[cookies]>etc
04:56:33  <deoxxa[cookies]>just do that over and over until you have a 1000x1000 area or so
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05:16:56  <deoxxa[cookies]>anyone here familiar with travel in france?
05:17:30  <deoxxa[cookies]>looking to go from italy to mont-de-marsan after nodejsconf.it
05:17:42  <deoxxa[cookies]>no idea how i should do it (train, plane, alpaca, etc)
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06:14:18  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/b57eb82657a1994d4e95
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06:14:50  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/45d9fa04c333420f9800
06:14:57  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: username is 3dot for both
06:16:15  <jesusabdullah>looking
06:16:47  <jesusabdullah>you should probably bump your node version btw, I'd go 0.8.14
06:17:43  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/e937f02449a8352378ac
06:17:44  <mdedetrich>another
06:17:48  <mdedetrich>ill bump node version now
06:18:42  <jesusabdullah>Script took too long to listen on a socket
06:18:44  <jesusabdullah>it says
06:18:52  <mdedetrich>it works locally
06:18:53  <jesusabdullah>on one
06:18:53  <mdedetrich>hmmm
06:19:00  <mdedetrich>they are all the same
06:19:01  <jesusabdullah>the other says your tarball crashed it
06:19:42  <jesusabdullah>christ socketstream is big
06:19:52  <jesusabdullah>it looks like this one should usually not crash the machines
06:20:05  <jesusabdullah>it's about 40 megs after deps are pulled in
06:20:38  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: I think the issue is, the machine nodes are not powerful enough
06:20:42  <mdedetrich>and they are loading it too slowly
06:20:50  <mdedetrich>hmm wait
06:20:59  <mdedetrich>I know what it is
06:21:15  <jesusabdullah>/package/node_modules/socketstream/node_modules/socket.io/node_modules/socket.io-client/node_modules/active-x-obfuscator/node_modules/zeparser/benchmark.html is an 8 MB html file
06:21:21  <jesusabdullah>that's really funny actually
06:22:03  <mdedetrich>yeah i forgot to set env variables
06:22:08  <jesusabdullah>oh
06:22:09  <jesusabdullah>cool
06:22:20  <mdedetrich>if there is another issue, will let you know
06:22:28  <jesusabdullah>awesome
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06:32:25  <mdedetrich>jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/87d8b219d90d4687f525
06:32:30  <mdedetrich>getting an issue with canvas now
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06:37:08  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: any idea what it is?
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06:42:39  <jesusabdullah>fuck
06:42:58  <jesusabdullah>looks like a linker error, my guess is a drone decided to try compiling it
06:43:03  <jesusabdullah>we have a fix for this in the works
06:43:16  <jesusabdullah>you can try rolling back your canvas version maybe
06:43:20  <jesusabdullah>see if that helps
06:43:23  <jesusabdullah>>_<
06:45:11  <mdedetrich>well its used by some other library
06:45:19  <mdedetrich>what version should I roll back to
06:48:16  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: this is the library that is using it
06:48:20  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: https://npmjs.org/package/captchagen
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06:51:15  <jesusabdullah>perhaps choose an older version of captchagen that relies on an older version of canvas
06:52:15  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: can you give me a version of canvas, that package only has 3 revisions
06:52:20  <mdedetrich>I can just use bundleddependencies
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06:52:32  <mdedetrich>its not really an issue if you give me a canvas version
06:53:08  <jesusabdullah>the thing though is
06:53:23  <jesusabdullah>it's not like with hiredis where it was just being stupid
06:53:40  <jesusabdullah>I'm more thinking maybe the build server through some random hiccup will behave differently with any other version number
06:54:03  <jesusabdullah>all the devops guys are asleep so, like
06:54:07  <jesusabdullah>this is what I have to work with
06:54:10  <jesusabdullah>unfortunately
06:55:15  <jesusabdullah>chances are it won't do anything and it's just a numbers game
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06:55:51  <Nodejitsu-Github>jitsu/master 0be23f0 Farrin Reid: [fix] fixed formatting for socket hang ups...
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06:55:58  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: can I just give you my email
06:56:10  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: and you send me the canvas version when the devs are awake
06:56:14  <mdedetrich>or should I just email them?
06:57:51  <jesusabdullah>it's fundamentally not about which canvas version you use, it's an environmental configuration error in our stack
06:58:12  <jesusabdullah>that should be fixed as soon as maciej wakes up
06:58:15  <jesusabdullah>hopefully
06:58:20  <jesusabdullah>he seemed to have the eureqa moment
06:58:30  <jesusabdullah>but the ambien he took was winning
06:58:46  <mdedetrich>so how about I just send an email
06:58:50  <mdedetrich>to nodejitsu support
06:58:57  <mdedetrich>does that sound like the best option
06:59:00  <jesusabdullah>what do you expect us to say though?
06:59:05  <jesusabdullah>it'll be the same thing I told you here
06:59:33  <mdedetrich>is this something that is fixable over the weekend?
06:59:47  <jesusabdullah>I hope so
06:59:48  <jesusabdullah>also
06:59:52  <jesusabdullah>that may have just been the one machine
06:59:57  <jesusabdullah>usually with hsi bug it's a numbers game
07:00:02  <jesusabdullah>you can find one where it's not stupid
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07:00:59  <mdedetrich>ok lets see
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07:02:52  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: ok I got it to start by spamming jitsu start
07:02:56  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: its an issue with that machine
07:03:25  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: also I got another one of these https://gist.github.com/656e3f29abfde9f184a2 when spamming jitsu start
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07:25:14  <joshsmith>jesusabdullah: HO
07:28:12  <jesusabdullah>hah
07:28:14  <jesusabdullah>sup
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07:29:40  <joshsmith>not much dude, how you been?
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07:32:59  <jesusabdullah>not bad
07:33:02  <jesusabdullah>TheJH: sup
07:35:35  <TheJH>jesusabdullah, school holidays (will end in a fw days), spending my time finding vulns in random software :)
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07:47:03  <jesusabdullah>sounds like fun timoxley
07:47:04  <jesusabdullah>er
07:47:06  <jesusabdullah>thejh!
07:47:11  <jesusabdullah>timoxley nevermind
07:47:16  <timoxley>jesusabdullah np
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07:50:21  <timoxley>jesusabdullah hm. while I have your attention… https://github.com/nodeapps/http-server/pull/18
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07:50:33  <timoxley>is there something wrong with this PR? WHYYY??
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08:06:11  <mdedetrich>im back
08:06:13  <mdedetrich>and sexier then ever
08:07:24  <Sly>lol
08:08:35  <jesusabdullah>timoxley: I think I just him-hawed over whether to change that aspect of the ux for a while and then got distracted
08:08:51  <jesusabdullah>timoxley: but yeah, now that I think about it, that should be fine
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08:09:40  <Nodejitsu-Github>http-server/master 1281add Tim Oxley: use portfinder to listen on an unused port if default port 8080 is in use and no particular port was specified on the commandline.
08:09:40  <Nodejitsu-Github>http-server/master b9def93 Joshua Holbrook: Merge pull request #18 from timoxley/master...
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08:09:41  <jesusabdullah>k done
08:10:01  <timoxley>jesusabdullah awesome!
08:10:03  <timoxley>thanks
08:10:09  <jesusabdullah>sorry for the delay
08:10:21  <jesusabdullah>I forget, I'm basically it for owning that project
08:10:43  <mdedetrich>can you own me baby?
08:11:00  <timoxley>jesusabdullah do you use something else for booting tiny http servers these days?
08:11:08  <timoxley>I mainly just use it for testing
08:11:21  <jesusabdullah>actually, that's pretty much what I use
08:11:30  <jesusabdullah>I've toyed with python -m SimpleHTTPServer or whatever
08:11:32  <jesusabdullah>but, like, yeah
08:12:16  <timoxley>cool
08:12:55  <timoxley>that's why the auto port thing was so useful… generally not concerned about the port… just boot me a file server in the current dir
08:13:17  <jesusabdullah>sure
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08:22:16  <timoxley>jesusabdullah can you bump version and publish to npm?
08:23:21  <timoxley>jesusabdullah: save you some typing: npm version minor && git push && git push --tags && npm publish
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09:41:03  <vekexasia1>Hello all
09:41:37  <jesusabdullah>helo
09:42:18  <katjang>hello
09:42:50  <vekexasia1>I've an issue with an app
09:42:58  <vekexasia1>apparently only in nodejitsu.
09:43:19  <bengourley>hey jesusabdullah: re my question 'do I need a .jit.su subdomain if I have my own domain pointing at my drone?', I couldn't find the answer on http://dns.jit.su/
09:43:24  <vekexasia1>i'm using node-gcm
09:44:01  <jesusabdullah>bengourley: so wait, what is your question then? I'm confused
09:44:17  <jesusabdullah>bengourley: do you want to make your site inaccessible via jit.su subdomain?
09:44:25  <bengourley>yeah pretty much
09:44:42  <jesusabdullah>yeah, there's no way I have to do that, nobody's asked for that before
09:44:42  <yawnt>bengourley: why would you do that?
09:44:49  <jesusabdullah>vekexasia1: what kind of issue
09:45:03  <bengourley>it's not cool to have the same site on multiple urls
09:45:13  <yawnt>actually it is
09:45:13  <vekexasia1>wait still trying to figure it out
09:45:24  <yawnt>think of dns failures
09:45:31  <vekexasia1>it's not for SEO
09:45:51  <jesusabdullah>bengourley: you can check the host headers and serve different content off the jit.su sub
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09:46:10  <jesusabdullah>bengourley: I can also ask devops about this when it's not 3 in the morning, but it's not a high priority of ours at this time
09:46:11  <bengourley>yeah, I think I'll just jump in and send a 301 the domain isn't my tld
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09:46:29  <jesusabdullah>yeah, a 302 isn't the worst idea
09:46:49  <bengourley>yeah no worries. trivial on my part but just wondered if it would happen if I just removed the subdomain field from package.json
09:47:04  <jesusabdullah>I used to 302 jesusabdullah.net to my blog before I made a splash for it
09:47:32  <katjang>is it okay to ask non nodejitsu related questions, more like best practice stuff here?
09:47:37  <bengourley>I'm already 302ing from www -> non www for the same reason
09:47:44  <jesusabdullah>yes, generally okay katjang
09:48:15  <jesusabdullah>katjang: if other people are asking support questions they get preference of course
09:49:06  <katjang>cool, no problem :)
09:50:28  <katjang>it's about voting system, i have a site that allows visitors (not logged in) and users (logged in) to vote on a content
09:50:56  <katjang>for visitors, i'm using sessions to track so they can't vote twice
09:51:19  <jesusabdullah>you can have anonymous sessions too I'd think
09:51:22  <jesusabdullah>based on ip address
09:51:29  <jesusabdullah>or cookie or whatever
09:51:34  <vekexasia1>why the hell jitsu logs has the fresher log on top ?
09:52:25  <katjang>cookie, this means it's logged on the client side?
09:53:08  <katjang>i mean, it's tracked on the client side, and not on server, right?
09:54:15  <yawnt>katjang: right
09:54:26  <yawnt>cookies reside in the user's browser
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09:54:55  <katjang>if visitor Z votes, then changes browser, then Z can vote again?
09:55:02  <yawnt>yes
09:57:14  <katjang>ok.. and what's the best way to store vote data?
09:57:33  <katjang>let's say there's a model Content that will be used to vote
09:57:36  <yawnt>you can't ensure that really
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09:57:45  <katjang>oh, i'm talking about mongodb btw
09:57:47  <yawnt>the best you can do is to register users
09:57:54  <yawnt>and track down voted users by username
09:58:08  <yawnt>and hope people don't start registering 10K accounts :P
09:58:09  <katjang>yeah.. i currently have a User model to store logged in users
09:59:11  <katjang>for this Content, besides having a user_votes property, which is an array type -- should I also have a visitor_votes property?
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10:15:23  <kadishmal>Hello! I have a question regarding nodejitsu service
10:15:34  <jesusabdullah>sure, I can answer that
10:15:55  <kadishmal>oh jesusabdullah I've just checked your site :)
10:16:04  <jesusabdullah>hmm?
10:16:06  <kadishmal>I remembered this weird name :)
10:16:08  <jesusabdullah>ah
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10:16:27  <kadishmal>I was checking how to set DNS and read your post
10:16:28  <kadishmal>anyway
10:16:44  <jesusabdullah>sure, go on
10:16:52  <kadishmal>my question is: can I create multiple independent apps under one account?
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10:17:04  <jesusabdullah>yes
10:17:52  <kadishmal>for instance I have 1 drone account (the simplest one to start from), can it host multiple apps? And how would resources be shared among them?
10:18:13  <jesusabdullah>oh, no, each app needs a whole number of drones
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10:18:22  <jesusabdullah>so an app can run on 0, 1, 2, 3, etc., drones
10:18:36  <jesusabdullah>so one drone means one app
10:18:57  <jesusabdullah>three drones means a maximum of 3 apps and a minimum of 1 app with all 3 drones assigned to it
10:21:16  <kadishmal>I see
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10:23:32  <kadishmal>thank you!
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10:28:35  <jesusabdullah>you're welcome
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10:55:36  <frankie_shoes>hi, what happens if an app get's a fatal exception in jitsu?
10:55:41  <frankie_shoes>does it restart ?
10:56:56  <yawnt>if your app crashes it gets automatically restarted
10:56:57  <yawnt>:)
11:05:56  <frankie_shoes>thanks, just double checking.
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11:41:59  <deoxxa[cookies]>jesusabdullah: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/187737-minecraft-land-generator/
11:42:23  <deoxxa[cookies]>re: your "how to pregenerate maps" inquisitivity
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11:56:15  <spey>hi, i have 1 plan subscription (micro; 1 drone) but the webops interface still saying the following: "This plan expires in 11 days. Upgrade to prevent down time."
11:56:23  <spey>is that normal?
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12:30:06  <kadishmal>Hi!
12:30:25  <kadishmal>I've got a question regarding subdomains in nodejitsu
12:31:16  <kadishmal>can anybody answer?
12:31:31  <spey>it depends on your question :)
12:31:58  <kadishmal>so create an app nodejitsu requires "subdomain" to be defined
12:32:21  <spey>yes in your package.json
12:32:22  <kadishmal>can we have multiple subdomains defined for the same app? My use case is to have a sub-subdomain
12:32:58  <kadishmal>i.e. my subdomain is "lalala", I want to add "zzz.lalala" as well
12:33:08  <kadishmal>is it possible?
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12:34:59  <spey>i think lalala.jit.su = zzz.lalala.jit.su, so it's up to you (your app) how to handle the request
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12:37:50  <spey>for example if your app is based on express/connect then you can use vhost
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12:38:23  <kadishmal>I did it!
12:38:38  <kadishmal>but it's a bit different from what you said
12:39:01  <kadishmal>when I defined two subdomains the second one overwrote the first one
12:39:09  <yawnt>kadishmal: it's only one subdomain
12:39:10  <kadishmal>so finally I have zzz.lalala
12:39:21  <yawnt>why would you need two?
12:39:46  <kadishmal>which can accepts requests for both zzz.lalala and just lalala which is quite unexpected!
12:40:10  <kadishmal>i need the second one to handle static requests
12:40:21  <kadishmal>so no cookie is carried through
12:40:54  <yawnt>kadishmal: i mean, why would you do that?
12:41:27  <yawnt>if you want to have something specific for static assets you should use S3 or such, having two subdomains would always point at the same app anyway
12:41:31  <kadishmal>so that no cookie is transferred with static file requests
12:41:57  <kadishmal>yeah, that works perfectly!
12:42:23  <kadishmal>since for client browser zzz.lalala and lalala are actually two diff. domains
12:42:44  <kadishmal>but the requests are handled on the backend by the same server which is just perfect
12:43:27  <yawnt>ok
12:43:52  <spey>yes, but if you are using the same app/server to handle all request you didn't really benefit from static serving
12:44:08  <yawnt>exactly
12:44:20  <spey>i think better if you server your static files from s3, or create another app just to server static
12:44:38  <kadishmal>spey: why do you think so?
12:45:01  <kadishmal>spey: I mean I may be not fully understanding something
12:45:02  <yawnt>kadishmal: because the app is one
12:45:18  <yawnt>kadishmal: so it's the same as if you were requesting from the first subdomain
12:45:25  <spey>take a look into this, good reading: https://help.joyent.com/entries/21703787-cdn-or-static-web-server
12:45:28  <kadishmal>yawnt: who cares? the client does care if there are two apps or one
12:45:44  <kadishmal>*does NOT*
12:45:45  <yawnt>kadishmal: yeah, but what's your benefit in having two domains pointing to the same app?
12:45:48  <yawnt>none
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12:46:13  <kadishmal>I think you aren't fully understanding the cookie-free requests
12:46:49  <kadishmal>spey: I'm not talking about CDN vs. static requests
12:47:07  <yawnt>why do you want those requests to be cookie-free?
12:47:30  <kadishmal>spey: the app IS using CDN for public scripts, but there are several my app specific scripts/CSS/images which aren't in CDN
12:47:55  <kadishmal>why would I need images/CSS/JS requests to have cookies?
12:48:15  <yawnt>i mean, usually cookies are very small
12:48:27  <yawnt>it's not like they really make a difference
12:48:29  <kadishmal>yawnt: oh, no, no, no!
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12:48:48  <kadishmal>they exactly do make a difference, let me find you the references
12:48:59  <yawnt>kadishmal: i have it
12:49:07  <yawnt>i mean, i rea about what you're talking about
12:49:07  <kadishmal>yawnt: ok
12:49:09  <yawnt>and i get your point
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12:49:24  <yawnt>*read
12:49:45  <yawnt>anyway, does it work now with the two subdomains?
12:49:52  <kadishmal>If you trust YSlow, who I think one way or another smarter than me, I follow their recommendations
12:50:11  <kadishmal>yawnt: exactly! I was very surprised jitsu can handle two subdomains!
12:50:18  <kadishmal>which is YAHOOO!!!!
12:50:26  <kadishmal>actually I didn't expect
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12:52:34  <yawnt>kadishmal: yep, it's wildcard
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12:54:06  <kadishmal>what if two completely different apps have "app1.ddd", the other "lololo.ddd"? which one will show the other ones app?
12:54:07  <yawnt>for example http://package.json.jit.su and http://harr.package.json.jit.su
12:54:17  <yawnt>they point to the exact same app
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12:55:03  <kadishmal>yes!
12:55:22  <yawnt>anyway apart from the cookie stuff (which is just my personal opinion)
12:55:31  <yawnt>i'm glad for you it works :P
12:56:53  <kadishmal>:)
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13:49:26  <ngreenwood6>hows it going in here today?
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14:27:54  <yawnt>deoxxa[cookies]: ping
14:29:41  <ngreenwood6>whats everybody working on today
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14:30:55  <yawnt>ngreenwood6: nodejs :D
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14:45:34  <ngreenwood6>lol yeah i know thats right
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14:53:12  <st_luke>free food if you don't mind putting up with homeless creeps http://www.nyc.gov/html/misc/html/2012/foodandwater.html
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15:06:49  <flybyme>can someone give a hand, im getthing this error https://gist.github.com/4001886 when using haibu
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15:11:31  <yawnt>hey flybyme
15:11:34  <yawnt>lemme have a look!
15:12:10  <flybyme>cool
15:12:47  <yawnt>uhm you should try to debug the forever-module and see why it throws undefined
15:12:48  <flybyme>and this might help https://gist.github.com/4001925
15:12:55  <yawnt>i haven't actually seen that error before myself
15:13:45  <flybyme>kk ill take a look
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15:52:39  <martin___>hi guys
15:52:51  <martin___>mmalecki are you up again? :-)
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15:54:24  <mmalecki>martin___: yes
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15:54:36  <mmalecki>bradleymeck: that reminds me, we need to roll out the sudo patch again
15:54:48  <bradleymeck>hurray
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16:05:46  <Dennis_>Can somebody help me troubleshoot the "Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error Error: socket hang up" error during deploy command (and setdrones command)?
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16:06:28  <coderarity>Dennis_, alright, what's your appname?
16:07:41  <Dennis_>Thanks! It's called trivialmobile
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16:08:36  <Dennis_>I get this error dozens of times per day. Sometimes I get 3 crashes before the same command completes successfully.
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16:10:58  <coderarity>Dennis_, can you try to deploy again?
16:11:25  <Dennis_>Sure! Starting in a second.
16:11:47  <Dennis_>upload just finished (it's a pretty small app by the way).
16:12:29  <Dennis_>around 10MB uncomopressed files, most of which is Mongoose
16:13:39  <coderarity>i think it deployed
16:13:45  <Dennis_>Of course it worked this time :) I am starting a new deploy command - pretty sure it will crash now.
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16:15:28  <coderarity>i already have the error from when it didn't work last time, btw
16:16:22  <Dennis_>OK the second deployment also worked. This is classic. Do you mind if I try the "setdrones" command now?
16:16:30  <coderarity>yeah
16:16:34  <coderarity>i mean, no
16:16:36  <coderarity>do it
16:18:13  <Dennis_>Man I cannot crash it when you're watching :) I'll try one more thing - deploying with two active drones. This has never worked before...
16:20:59  <Dennis_>This also worked. I am going to test the same scenarios with 3 active drones now.
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16:21:43  <mmalecki>martin___: I just deployed a fix, rechecking and it should be fixed
16:22:05  <mmalecki>Dennis_: what's your app name again? I just deployed a fix which might've fixed your problem :)
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16:26:17  <Dennis_>My app is called "trivialmobile". Just tried making a code change and pushing new release (deployment is in process right now). It crashed!
16:27:21  <Dennis_>I think the error message is a bit different this time. Do you want me to retry this deployment?
16:28:35  <coderarity>paste the whole output from the deploy to gist.github.com
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16:31:17  <Dennis_>Here is my private gist for this deployment crash: https://gist.github.com/d12a28a848c12ed07d7a
16:32:02  <coderarity>just go ahead and deploy again, there's not much we can do about that
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16:38:40  <mmalecki>martin___: there's a fix going out to all servers now, but if you are lucky enough, you might hit a fixed server already
16:38:45  <mmalecki>mind trying now?
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16:41:41  <Dennis_>OK I did one deployment successfully, and then the next one failed with the same error that I was getting before (socket hang up). Here is the gist for it: 29cdc2059e9dcc33a619
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16:49:53  <Dennis_>Just tried deployment again, and it crashed again with "socket hang up" error. Here is the gist: 78642426cfddce7748ab
16:51:38  <coderarity>try again
16:52:11  <Dennis_>Trying now...
16:53:11  <coderarity>you're probably going to run into errors every now and then, just redeploy a few times until it works, your stuff won't go down unless it's successful
16:53:59  <Dennis_>This time it worked. So, at this point I had 2 successful deployments and 3 crashes. This is about the range that I observed over the last two weeks. My problem is that 50% failure rate is really lame for any cloud. I would like to confirm whether this happens only to my app, or is this the norm at Nodejitsu?
16:54:09  <mmalecki>this app looks like it was deleted?
16:54:20  <coderarity>mmalecki, it's TrivialMobile, with caps, lol
16:54:25  <coderarity>i just learned this myself
16:54:54  <mmalecki>so why are we getting show requests for lower case?
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16:56:12  <coderarity>Dennis_, have you ever changed your app name?
16:57:42  <coderarity>Dennis_, also, it depends on the app, but socket hang ups happen for other people too
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16:58:12  <Dennis_>Hmm... I don't think so. I remember putting some caps in package.json, and I struggled with this because you don't provide clear error messages that indicate that upper case letters are not allowed in domain names. But once I made it lowercase everything worked.
16:58:31  <martin___>mmalecki thanks (doing laundry, hence the late reply)
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16:58:55  <Dennis_>By the way, I just did one more deployment attempt and it also crashed. So, at this point only 2 our of 6 deployments succeeded. I am going to try #7 now...
17:00:09  <mmalecki>martin___: well, the script finished running already, so that's good news :)
17:00:26  <martin___>will see :-)
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17:01:23  <mmalecki>Dennis_: worked this time, right?
17:01:59  <martin___>mmalecki can you or one of your collegues comment on this on github. https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/issues/751#issuecomment-9831269 It is paramount that this works
17:03:10  <mmalecki>martin___: I'll make sure someone does that, I'm not aware what's the exact issue
17:03:16  <martin___>mmalecki set drones now worked for me
17:03:21  <coderarity>Dennis_, we're working on making it more stable, as work continues failed deploys will happen less frequently. there's not much more I can say
17:03:28  <mmalecki>martin___: LOVELY SIR
17:03:43  <mmalecki>martin___: the issue was kinda complicated if you want to know details
17:03:50  <martin___>sure
17:04:07  <mmalecki>I'd resolve it yesterday but took my sleep medicine already and it'd get allllll weeeeird if I tried to roll something out
17:04:26  <martin___>haha, never code on drugs
17:04:39  <martin___>or beeer
17:04:56  <mmalecki>well, basically, we spawn npm with sudo to install deps. however, we use environment variables to configure npm
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17:05:12  <mmalecki>and sudo clears the environment the application runs in
17:05:16  <mmalecki>so for example
17:05:36  <mmalecki>var=value sudo env
17:05:52  <mmalecki>when you run this, you won't notice var=value in `env` output
17:06:26  <mmalecki>so we had to modify sudoers file to allow us to pass those variables to npm
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17:06:29  <Dennis_>Can you please tell me what percentage of all Nodejitsu deployments succeed vs. fail? Basically, I want to confirm that my app does not have any tricks that provoke these deployment issues. I'd be happy to tune my architecture and introduce some workarounds that make it easier for Nodejitsu to deploy my app...
17:06:42  <martin___>I see
17:06:51  <mmalecki>also, coding on drugs can get useful, sometimes
17:07:11  <mmalecki>but not when you can get knocked out at any time
17:07:23  <martin___>mmalecki, btw, can someone push a new version of https://github.com/flatiron/nconf out to npm. I don't like git references in my package json :-)
17:07:37  <mmalecki>sure can
17:07:43  <mmalecki>let me see if I have rights
17:07:57  <mmalecki>yup, I do
17:07:59  <martin___>mmalecki thx. Just watch out, the latest version is balking at travis
17:08:36  <coderarity>Dennis_, I don't have a percentage. But you should make sure to not deploy anything that includes files you don't need. You can check that with `tar -tf $(npm pack)`.
17:08:41  <martin___>and a feature request: List the number of drones in the web interface
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17:09:28  <mmalecki>martin___: I'll be refactoring drone system completely
17:09:40  <martin___>awesome. But keep it running :-)
17:09:45  <coderarity>Dennis_, and having a lot of dependencies can increase the chance of failed deploys too
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17:11:32  <coderarity>Dennis_, basically, the most important thing is to remember that drones have only 256 MB of memory, so you should try to work within those limitations
17:13:12  <mmalecki>martin___: waiting for nconf to build on travis
17:13:25  <martin___>coderarity is there a way to get extended stats from running drones (sun os seems to support that awesome tracing tool)
17:13:29  <mmalecki>martin___: as a general rule, I don't release when tests are broken
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17:13:44  <martin___>mmalecki which i very much appreciate :-)
17:14:25  <coderarity>martin___, at this point, I think not
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17:14:26  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] flatiron/nconf#64 (master - 8b65e19 : Maciej Małecki): The build passed.
17:14:26  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/nconf/compare/2ba437807aff...8b65e195eb43
17:14:26  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/nconf/builds/3035424
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17:14:34  <mmalecki>lovely
17:14:40  <mmalecki>pksunkara: ping?
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17:15:37  <martin___>coderarity would be high on my wishlist and be a competitive advantage. Would pay for it...
17:16:18  <martin___>mmalecki just noticed something: Log files should be per drone, or at least indicate which drone is affected. For your refactoring :-)
17:16:21  <mmalecki>looks like there was no api breaking...
17:16:26  <mmalecki>martin___: yuuup
17:16:41  <mmalecki>martin___: any idea if we broke the api since the last version? doesn't look like we did to me
17:16:59  <martin___>no idea, to be honest. I don't think so though
17:17:39  <coderarity>martin___, i think it's in the pipeline, but we're coming out with something really cool for feature requests in the near future
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17:18:05  <martin___>coderarity good. I have so many feature requests :-)
17:18:17  <mmalecki>martin___: publishing as 0.6.5
17:18:19  <coderarity>awesome :D
17:18:39  <martin___>mmalecki - ok, will upgrade in 5 mins. :-)
17:18:46  <Dennis_>Good point on 256MB. How can I monitor memory utilization of my app during deployment process, and during normal runtime?
17:18:47  <mmalecki>published
17:18:50  <mmalecki>now I need to go
17:18:58  <mmalecki>if anything, call me
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17:19:05  <martin___>mmalecki have a great day, and htx
17:19:32  <mmalecki>if hell breaks loose, the team has my phone number
17:19:38  <mmalecki>I'll be drunk however
17:19:41  <Sly>aserfzsdpoawinezxdfpi;n
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17:19:55  <Sly>Maciej, <3
17:19:59  <Sly>Even though you're leaving me. :'(
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17:20:04  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/nconf/compare/8b65e195eb43...bcbaf3a133f8
17:20:04  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/nconf/builds/3035539
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17:20:08  <coderarity>Dennis_, I am not sure there's a way to do that at this point
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17:20:56  <coderarity>Dennis_, process.memoryUsage might work, http://nodejs.org/api/process.html#process_process_memoryusage
17:21:22  <coderarity>it's definitely worth a try
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17:39:37  <Dennis_>I just added the process.memoryUsage check to my app. When it starts locally it uses 23MB, and when it starts on NodeJitsu it uses only 16MB. So, I guess it's not logical to explain the fact that 50% of my deployments fail by either memory footprint or file system footprint of my application?
17:40:05  <coderarity>it's not why, but it could be why
17:40:24  <coderarity>the reason it's not deploying are just occassional issues that there's not much you can do about
17:41:22  <AvianFlu>Dennis_: it's a core issue
17:41:29  <AvianFlu>with excessive memory usage from unpacking certain tarballs
17:41:37  <AvianFlu>when you see the ENOMEM fail, your app hasn't started
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17:50:28  <Costa>Upgraded to regular account yesterday but jitsu still won't deploy
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17:52:17  <Costa>Nevermind, worked after a few tries, I wonder why that is
17:52:46  <AvianFlu>Costa: if you can gist us your terminal output, we may be able to help figure it out
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17:54:17  <martin___>coderarity I am exposing some stats from my app, like memoryUsage(). Is there a way to identify a specific drone, like returing process.uuid(), or is this a security risk
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17:55:10  <martin___>also, is it possible to access a specific drone?
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17:56:11  <Dennis_>Well, to me unpacking tarballs does not sound like rocket science. This should work 100% of the time. If this crashes 50% of the time, it really makes Nodejitsu look weak compared to any other clouds out there, and sooner or later somebody will start blogging about what percentage of their deployments crash, so in the long run this is likely to cost your business a lot more than figuring out how to unpack reliably?
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17:57:05  <Costa>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/4003179 here ya go : )
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18:01:05  <coderarity>Dennis_, I don't think you're getting an ENOMEM, but that problem is related to a core bug, and those take time - we're working on checking out your problem more now
18:04:35  <AvianFlu>Dennis_: we do everything in node. We're actively working on improving our infrastructure to work around these things, because we're the reason things like this get noticed.
18:04:38  <AvianFlu>it's an ongoing process.
18:06:16  <AvianFlu>the more we know about which fail, and which don't, the less this happens.
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18:12:05  <Dennis_>Sure, I totally appreciate the work that you guys are doing. Most aspects of Nodejitsu are truly awesome. I guess, if you are open for feedback my top two recommendations are - make deployments 100% reliable, and update your Features list so that it accurately describes which features are available today versus going to materialize at some point in the future. At this point anybody can easily accuse you at false advertising based o
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18:16:10  <AvianFlu>Dennis_: we're rolling out a bunch of changes to our stack in the next few weeks
18:16:22  <AvianFlu>they'll reduce deploy failures considerably
18:16:46  <AvianFlu>as for the features list... excuse me while I go send some internal emails :D
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18:18:23  <nathan_>Hitting a strange error when trying to deploy. Anyone got a minute to help debug?
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18:37:16  <AvianFlu>nathan_: what are you seeing?
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18:38:38  <visnup>running into issues creating a redis db: https://gist.github.com/076a2654459b88fde998
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18:44:03  <nathan7>hrmpf
18:44:22  <nathan7>I need to fiddle with my highlights
18:44:26  <nathan7>or murder all the other nathans
18:45:18  <AvianFlu>visnup: redistogo has been having a bad last few weeks
18:45:23  <AvianFlu>their API returns all sorts of weird stuff
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18:46:12  <visnup>AvianFlu: ok, was testing it out for nko3
18:47:26  <visnup>it's going to be an issue I'm sure.. I guess confusing fallback would be to say "go sign up for redistogo yourself"
18:55:24  <AvianFlu>well that itself is spotty
18:55:36  <AvianFlu>like, their db creation in general has been having issues
18:56:01  <AvianFlu>also, visnup, see pm :)
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19:05:58  <st_luke>my "mean" emails keep getting cc'd to all of my bosses
19:06:25  <fabrizio>is this the right channel to get support?
19:06:47  <AvianFlu>fabrizio: yes
19:06:53  <fabrizio>An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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19:07:06  <fabrizio>I can't figure out what does that mean
19:08:47  <fabrizio>looks like my node application is refusing connection
19:09:15  <fabrizio>I am not sure if that is related to my application listening port
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19:12:32  <AvianFlu>fabrizio: it usually indicates an app that crashes very quickly after starting
19:12:42  <AvianFlu>what's the app name? and what's your nodejitsu username?
19:12:47  <AvianFlu>we can take a look and let you know
19:13:19  <fabrizio>2nodestack
19:14:01  <fabrizio>both for username and appname
19:16:31  <fabrizio>I guess this will explain it:
19:16:31  <fabrizio>I just received help in the IRC channel. The issues was that my node app was using 127.0.0.1/localhost instead of 0.0.0.0. Changing that and a redeploy fixed the issue.
19:17:29  <AvianFlu>error: /opt/haibu/apps/2nodestack/2nodestack/package/node_modules/connect-mongo/lib/connect-mongo.js:141
19:17:29  <AvianFlu> throw new Error('Error connecting to database');
19:17:30  <AvianFlu>fabrizio:
19:17:34  <AvianFlu>there you go
19:17:41  <AvianFlu>exactly :)
19:17:59  <AvianFlu>also, you might want to use a different mongo version, versions 1.1.8 - 1.1.10 of the mongo driver don't work on SmartOS
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19:18:11  <fabrizio>ok
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19:33:04  <ngreenwood6>i have a question....say i have an app running on multiple drones...is there a way to connect to a specific drone through my site....the reason i am asking is because I would like to test with socket.io / redis publishing of events across the different drones
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19:34:00  <AvianFlu>ngreenwood6: our load balancing involves sticky sessions
19:34:05  <AvianFlu>requests from one IP always hit the same drone
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19:48:57  <coti>aloha
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19:49:29  <coti>any news about makeing the payment gateway work ?
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19:53:45  <coderarity>coti: payment gateway work? what are you seeing?
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19:55:10  <coti>i am getting this messsage: Processor declined Declined (2046)
19:55:48  <coti>is a visa clasic, and there are enough money on it
19:56:11  <AvianFlu>coti: certain cards give that error, and our payment provider's documentation is scant
19:56:23  <AvianFlu>what country is the bank in that backs the card?
19:56:32  <coderarity>the last person that mentioned a weird decline was from visa too
19:56:49  <coti>is from romania / ING
19:57:05  <AvianFlu>coti: I think that our payment provider doesn't like certain international banks
19:57:14  <AvianFlu>we're still trying to figure out exactly what the issue is
19:57:58  <coti>i see. any ideea how long would this take
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20:04:59  <AvianFlu>it's hard to say, international payment processing is not one of my areas of personal expertise
20:05:08  <AvianFlu>we're investigating, though, and it's a common issue
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20:05:14  <AvianFlu>we hope to resolve it ASAP
20:05:48  <coti>;) great. thank you
20:09:32  <bardu>a customer just reported : An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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20:09:41  <bardu>any thoughts on that
20:13:12  <yawnt>bardu: that usually happens when the app is in a crash loop
20:13:27  <yawnt>have you checked the logs?
20:14:28  <AvianFlu>bardu: give us the username and app name
20:14:31  <AvianFlu>and we'll have a poke
20:14:54  <bardu>bardu yxyapp
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20:17:58  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] flatiron/flatiron#175 (master - fc5f079 : Christian Howe): The build passed.
20:17:58  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/flatiron/compare/e7aea440f460...fc5f07977ff0
20:17:58  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/flatiron/builds/3037902
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20:18:25  <AvianFlu>bardu: the only app I see under 'bardu' is called 'application-name'
20:18:47  <coderarity>the build passed?
20:18:57  <bardu>yeah sub-domain is yxyapp
20:19:25  <AvianFlu>oh, okay
20:20:02  <AvianFlu>just a second
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20:20:38  <bardu>however it is working now again
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20:22:55  <DTrejo>visnup: do you know if a NKO team is allowed to use jitsu AND heroku? or only one of them
20:23:08  <visnup>jitsu
20:23:20  <DTrejo>like if our app involved the jitsu instance farming work out to the heroku ones
20:23:24  <visnup>DTrejo: kinda heroku, but free only and that's all up to you
20:23:31  <bardu>AvianFlu: still wondering about the cause and how it recovered?
20:23:32  <DTrejo>mmk
20:23:55  <DTrejo>thanks for the info :) looking forward to next week :)
20:24:05  <AvianFlu>bardu: when I looked at the server, everything had died - I started the app again
20:24:08  <visnup>DTrejo: or, unofficially to stay under the radar, keep the heroku bill waay cheap
20:24:36  <DTrejo>i mean, we would only use free herokus
20:24:41  <DTrejo>so yea
20:24:46  <AvianFlu>bardu: could be a memory leak somewhere, or your app could have hit a bunch of traffic perhaps?
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20:24:52  <visnup>DTrejo: aight sweet. but yeah, main thingie needs to be on jitsu
20:25:00  <DTrejo>yep, all our code, yea
20:25:37  <visnup>DTrejo: then all-ok! sounds cool. what're you using to communicate?
20:25:43  <visnup>DTrejo: redis pubsub?
20:25:53  <DTrejo>it's not definite that we'd use that idea
20:25:55  <bardu>AvianFlu: I have 5 drone should that be enough?
20:25:58  <DTrejo>so not sure
20:26:11  <AvianFlu>bardu: probably, but it depends on a lot
20:26:30  <AvianFlu>I'll start looking at the current running instance and see if anything stands out
20:27:25  <bardu>AvianFlu: my app it self has about 44 MB now and I heard the server I'm on has only 200 MB memory?
20:27:52  <AvianFlu>each drone is a SmartOS zone with 256MB of ram
20:27:55  <AvianFlu>so, yeah
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20:31:09  <bardu>AvianFlu: is there a way to monitor the status of the app, I didn't see anything in the logs that indicates the app crashed?
20:32:01  <AvianFlu>bardu: whatever this was, it was strange, and I'm not sure what happened eitehr
20:32:07  <AvianFlu>I'm looking into it
20:32:26  <bardu>AvianFlu: thanks
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20:55:37  <Blas_>I need some help with Socket IO & Express, can anyone help me please?
20:56:08  <Blas_>I've deployed my App without trouble, but when i restart it, the client can't find socket.io.js
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21:00:53  <Blas_>can anyone help me please?
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21:04:07  <AvianFlu>Blas_: does that only happen on restart?
21:04:22  <AvianFlu>have you got any kind of build step that runs on the server?
21:04:36  <AvianFlu>also, you should try `jitsu apps start` to restart it, it'll move it to a new drone with zero downtime
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21:06:57  <iraldir>Hey everyone
21:07:13  <Blas_>Yeap, only when restart i think
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21:08:10  <iraldir>I'm trying nodejitsu for the first time. I have a local nodejs apps that works, but I get an error when the apps start on nodejitsu (on deploy)
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21:08:56  <iraldir>http://pastebin.com/rCMxrcv
21:09:11  <iraldir>here is the error
21:09:24  <iraldir>oops, sorry
21:09:39  <iraldir>http://pastebin.com/rCMxrcv6
21:09:44  <iraldir>forgot the 6
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21:10:39  <iraldir>the only info i found on the web about this error was about the use of meteor, which is not my case
21:10:44  <iraldir>here is my package.json
21:11:18  <coderarity>iraldir: just deploy again
21:11:20  <coderarity>rackspace has issues
21:11:39  <iraldir>oh? I'll try then
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21:14:45  <iraldir>this time it did not find socket.io
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21:15:02  <iraldir>http://pastebin.com/76Qw98Cy
21:15:02  <coderarity>can I see your package.json?
21:15:20  <iraldir>here it is
21:15:34  <coderarity>and what was the error you got?
21:16:24  <iraldir> There was an error while attempting to start the app Error spawning drone Script prematurely exited This type of error is usually a user error. Error output from app: Poney module.js:340 throw err; ^ Error: Cannot find module 'Socket.io'
21:16:46  <iraldir>(don't mind the poney thing...)
21:17:05  <iraldir>after that is just the stack of the error, do you need it?
21:17:16  <coderarity>probably not
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21:20:31  <coderarity>weird
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21:22:24  <coderarity>iraldir: can you try again? logs were messed up on that drone, fixed it but need to see it again
21:22:44  <iraldir>okay
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21:25:05  <iraldir>rackspace error, i'll try again
21:25:16  <coderarity>yep
21:26:17  <iraldir>(while it's uploading, what's a rackspace, btw?)
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21:27:33  <coderarity>it's where the snapshots are saved, sometimes it decides to not let you save a snapshot
21:28:29  <iraldir>http://pastebin.com/U1sPEhW1
21:28:45  <iraldir>(thanks for the info, and the help btw)
21:29:16  <iraldir>oups, still rackspace error
21:29:19  <coderarity>yeah
21:29:20  <iraldir>didn't see it
21:29:36  <sberryman>coderarity: getting rackspace errors publishing
21:30:04  <coderarity>sberryman: publishing?
21:30:28  <sberryman>deploying :)
21:30:29  <sberryman>https://gist.github.com/4004458
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21:33:04  <iraldir>http://pastebin.com/fXfFzC6D
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21:34:19  <sberryman>coderarity: looks like the deploy worked though
21:34:33  <sberryman>at least jitsu and webops are showing the new version
21:34:40  <coderarity>really? you should deploy again to be sure
21:34:48  <coderarity>whenever you get rackspace 404, just deploy again
21:34:58  <sberryman>i tried 3 times with the same error from jitsu
21:35:13  <sberryman>and all 3 versions showed up in jitsu and webops
21:35:40  <sberryman>jitsu v0.10.4, node v0.8.14
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21:36:12  <coderarity>hmmm, well i think it failed to upload the snapshot when that happened (or maybe it fails to get the snapshot?)
21:36:12  <iraldir>I guess I have to try again because of the drone problem?
21:36:24  <coderarity>iraldir: gimme a sec, i gotta check it out
21:36:32  <sberryman>coderarity: no clue :)
21:36:51  <iraldir>ok
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21:37:55  <sberryman>coderarity: so it saved it successfully to rackspace
21:38:02  <sberryman>i was able to download the snapshot
21:38:18  <sberryman>webops is showing a different active version than jitsu by the way
21:40:06  <AvianFlu>sberryman: you're the third person in the last two hours to have strange problems with webops and snapshots
21:40:14  <AvianFlu>sberryman: the last several people had better results with jitsu
21:40:16  <AvianFlu>we're looking into it
21:40:37  <sberryman>no worries
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21:40:58  <sberryman>i just did a stop and start and now jitsu is showing the most recent version
21:41:57  <sberryman>AvianFlu: so it "failed" to deploy a new version (rackspace error: https://gist.github.com/4004458) but it really did upload the new snapshot and lists the new version. i was able to fetch the latest snapshot and after a couple jitsu apps start it started up running the latest version
21:42:23  <AvianFlu>sberryman: here's the thing
21:42:33  <AvianFlu>cloudfiles has started to take time before it shows the upload
21:42:40  <AvianFlu>it finishes, it works, but it 404s cause it needs a minute
21:42:58  <sberryman>love eventual consistency :)
21:43:15  <AvianFlu>yeah, we've probably passed some threshold of data or something
21:43:44  <sberryman>you should limit the number of snapshots you guys save
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21:43:56  <sberryman>no point in keeping a ton of versions around
21:44:09  <AvianFlu>it's true
21:44:12  <AvianFlu>we're looking into improving it
21:44:22  <sberryman>and you probably have a ton of snapshots that are really duplicates because of failed deployments
21:44:35  <AvianFlu>that's another good point
21:44:43  <sberryman>plus i hate manually deleting all the old snapshots :)
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21:53:30  <coderarity>iraldir: can you `jitsu snapshots fetch` your snapshot and make sure socket.io is in it?
21:57:09  <iraldir>so, no idea about what's wrong for me?
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21:57:29  <iraldir>oh wait, scroll issue
21:57:34  <iraldir>didn't see new messages
21:57:46  <iraldir>okay
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22:00:38  <coderarity>iraldir: the username/appname is still tank/tank right?
22:00:47  <iraldir>so, i got the tar.gz
22:00:56  <iraldir>it's lajili/tank
22:01:01  <coderarity>oh, okay
22:01:03  <coderarity>i'll do it then
22:02:25  <iraldir>so there is socket.io in package\node_modules and in Paxheader/package/nodemodule
22:02:48  <coderarity>yeah, i see it too
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22:06:02  <coderarity>iraldir: lolololol, requires are case-sensitive
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22:06:19  <coderarity>iraldir: require('socket.io')
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22:06:21  <jesusabdullah>yes they are
22:06:22  <coderarity>lol :P
22:07:48  <iraldir>haha
22:07:55  <iraldir>my bad
22:08:01  <iraldir>thanks for the help
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22:35:54  <iraldir>it's super weird
22:36:05  <iraldir>ever since we found out what the problem was
22:36:34  <iraldir>i cannot deploy the thing, the upload stop each time at 81 / 82%
22:36:47  <iraldir>with a ETIMEDOUT error
22:37:30  <iraldir>is my internet connection not working for some reason?
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22:47:15  <iraldir>well, i'm going to bed (it's midnight here), i'll try again tomorrow
22:47:24  <iraldir>thanks for your help anyway
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23:07:24  <jaydson>hey, i have an issue in my nodejitsu account, someone can help me?
23:09:56  <jesusabdullah>yes, we can help you
23:10:01  <jesusabdullah>tell me more about your issue
23:10:54  <jaydson>ok. Well, when i login my account, i'm redirected to this page: https://webops.nodejitsu.com/apps/Remote%20Slide
23:11:10  <jaydson>This page does't exists
23:11:59  <jaydson>i'm pretty sure that i created an app with this wrong name, but now, when i try to acces my account, i always get this page error
23:12:33  <jaydson>i figure out that, if i enter in the correct URL https://webops.nodejitsu.com/apps/remote-slide
23:12:43  <jaydson>it works, and i can see all my apps
23:12:59  <jaydson>but i cant remove the wrong app "Remote Slide"
23:14:35  <Sly>jaydson, what's the username for your account?
23:14:44  <jaydson>jaydson
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23:16:18  <Sly>Okay. Are you wanting "Remote Slide" destroyed?
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23:17:17  <jaydson>yep
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23:18:05  <jaydson>the right app is remote-slide
23:18:40  <Sly>Alright. Let me see if I can do that for you real quick.
23:18:51  <jaydson>ok, tks Sly
23:21:05  <Sly>jaydson, the reason you couldn't get to it with "Remote%20Slide" is because it never got the "Slide" part when you deployed it.
23:21:11  <Sly>It was just "Remote".
23:21:14  <Sly>But it's destroyed now.
23:21:34  <jaydson>Cool Sly, its everythin ok now
23:21:43  <jaydson>Thanks :)
23:21:49  <Sly>No problem. :)
23:22:02  <jaydson>You work for Nodejitsu?
23:22:11  <Sly>Indeed.
23:23:14  <jaydson>Hum, nice. Well, i have the free account. It will still working?
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23:23:44  <Sly>It looks like all of your apps are deployed successfully, so I would say that it's working.
23:24:18  <jaydson>cool
23:24:39  <Sly>Definitely. :D
23:24:45  <jaydson>So, the free plan for developers are still up?
23:24:59  <Sly>For a limited time.
23:25:08  <jaydson>ah, got it
23:25:11  <Sly>You should check webops.jit.su to see how much time you have left.
23:26:15  <jaydson>"The development sandbox expires in 8 days. Upgrade to prevent down time."
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23:26:41  <jaydson>So, to keep my apps, i need to buy a plan?
23:26:45  <Sly>Yup.
23:27:31  <jaydson>Now i got it.
23:27:48  <Sly>ircretary, tell `3rdEden to contact me.
23:27:49  <ircretary>Sly: I'll be sure to tell `3rdeden
23:28:30  <jaydson>Thanks Sly, really helpful informations
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23:28:40  <Sly>jaydson, no problem. It's what we're here for. :)
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23:29:19  <coderarity>iraldir: yo, jitsu config set timeout 600000
23:29:45  <coderarity>if someone didn't already help you
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23:36:42  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here?
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23:51:48  <bardu>AvianFlu: just happens again: a customer reported : An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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23:57:54  <jesusabdullah>bardu: what caused it last time?
23:58:01  <jesusabdullah>bardu: that typically means your app crashed
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23:59:42  <bardu>jesusabdullah: it happened for the first time today, no clue why