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01:19:11  <InspiredJW>I hope there is a "maintenance mode" like Heroku
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01:24:11  <sberryman>InspiredJW: i don't think they have that feature yet
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01:26:08  <InspiredJW>Yeah but I want them to make one
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01:26:14  <coderarity>we don't need to
01:26:32  <coderarity>InspiredJW: because there's zero downtime deploys, when you make a new deploy, stuff won't go down
01:26:41  <AvianFlu>InspiredJW: what does heroku maintenance mode give you
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01:28:44  <sberryman>[crickets]
01:29:12  <sberryman>"jitsu's client request timed out before the server could respond" thats a new error message
01:29:13  <blakmatrix>sberryman: chocolate sauce?
01:29:24  <InspiredJW>when I'm working on just dev
01:29:28  <sberryman>and.... 3rd times a winner!
01:29:31  <InspiredJW>I want a static maintenance mode page
01:29:42  <InspiredJW>I can switch back easily
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01:29:49  <blakmatrix>sberryman: `jitsu config set timeout XXXXXX`
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01:30:23  <blakmatrix>course replace the XX with actual numbers lol
01:31:03  <blakmatrix>AvianFlu: Thats sorta what jesusabdullah was working on, except his was solely custom error page
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01:31:24  <sberryman>blakmatrix: i'm only an idiot some days :)
01:31:40  <sberryman>you of course caught me in a big moment of weakness
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01:32:04  <blakmatrix>sberryman: I only said that because i know i breaks if its not a number you put in that value lol
01:33:09  <blakmatrix>sberryman: since i helped expose that error and the time out stuf and tested it, coderarity made the canges to the actual upload mechanism
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01:33:41  <sberryman>ha
01:33:53  <sberryman>sounds like he didn't believe you
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01:41:46  <coderarity>Joel81: hi
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01:48:44  <jesusabdullah>we have nice 404 pages if the app isn't up
01:49:17  <jesusabdullah>I put in a PR for nice gateway errors
01:49:23  <jesusabdullah>502s I believe
01:49:30  <mmalecki>jesusabdullah: which I forgot to deploy
01:49:34  <mmalecki>thanks for reminding me XD
01:49:36  <jesusabdullah>hah
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01:50:07  <mmalecki>jesusabdullah: does the pr you made lgty?
01:50:10  <sberryman>you guys seems to work 24/7
01:50:36  <mmalecki>sberryman: https://twitter.com/bradleymeck/status/266711122554519552
01:51:03  <jesusabdullah>mmalecki: it looked good to me! I left it running on that test balancer
01:51:55  <sberryman>i must need to get off my chair.. seems? really? terrible english
01:52:12  <sberryman>i should have gone to a node conference
01:52:34  <jesusabdullah>yeah, it's nice to go to one or two
01:52:37  <jesusabdullah>at some point
01:52:40  <mmalecki>jesusabdullah: merged
01:52:46  <mmalecki>sberryman: conferences are awesome
01:52:47  <jesusabdullah>I also did a lot of meetups when I first moved here
01:53:04  <mmalecki>except when they aren't, but that's a longer story
01:53:26  <sberryman>as long as there is an abundance of alcohol i'm good
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01:54:10  <sberryman>which reminds me, it is well after 5 pm.. time for the first drink
01:54:45  <mmalecki>sberryman: :( I'm stuck in Italy with nothing stronger than wine
01:54:57  <sberryman>wine is a fine drunk
01:55:22  <mmalecki>sberryman: I'm from Poland
01:55:23  <sberryman>i just cant mix red+white or frankly wine + anything else
01:55:34  <mmalecki>I like wine, but I need vodka
01:56:06  <sberryman>thinking of doing a shot of vodka makes me want to puke
01:57:20  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: so you graduated from meetups to conferences?
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01:59:46  <sberryman>stupid stuck snapshots!
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02:00:16  <mmalecki>sberryman: ids?
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02:00:51  <sberryman>mmalecki: all the archived ones (https://gist.github.com/4043258)
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02:01:52  <sberryman>i still havent figured out what the catalyst is but it seems ~5-8+ snapshots and the old ones stop deleting
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02:02:31  <sberryman>but that doesnt make sense as 58-55 is only 3 :)
02:02:47  <mmalecki>sberryman: there
02:02:57  <mmalecki>deleted them for ya
02:03:08  <sberryman>yay
02:03:27  <sberryman>what about my black dot of death in webops? sberryman / teeleader-worker
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02:03:37  <sberryman>i know it is running but i like green more than black
02:03:50  <mmalecki>I'm not familiar with this one
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02:04:13  <mmalecki>oh wow?
02:04:24  <sberryman>ha, i might have been "not sober" when i came up with black dot of death today
02:04:25  <mmalecki>can I haz zscreenshot?
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02:06:54  <sberryman>mmalecki: https://app.dumptruck.goldenfrog.com/p/sBsu8HqW4Q
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02:08:43  <mmalecki>is it like that forever?
02:09:18  <sberryman>just stopped it... so it is red now
02:09:23  <sberryman>let me try and start it again
02:09:38  <sberryman>it stayed black this afternoon
02:10:00  <sberryman>ahh, you guys added "drones 1/1" to jitsu
02:10:14  <sberryman>okay, it is started and it is back to black
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02:11:08  <sberryman>the worker is connected to my instance of rabbitmq and it is processing jobs on the queue so it must be working :)
02:11:36  <sberryman>"jitsu apps list" also reports it as state=started
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02:14:49  <mmalecki>that's funny
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02:15:14  <mmalecki>I don't know this code well enough to help
02:15:22  <mmalecki>but I'll def bring this up
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02:17:14  <mdedetrich>getting a lot of internal server errors when deploying
02:17:59  <sberryman>mmalecki: thanks
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02:26:12  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: I graduated to staying at home
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02:26:35  <jesusabdullah>sberryman: I find conferences pretty tiring. Also I'm really introverted
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02:28:34  <jesusabdullah>mdedetrich: tell me more, maybe I can help
02:29:46  <mdedetrich>jesusabdullah: https://gist.github.com/46bb49eab952f2cb2e67
02:29:49  <mdedetrich>jesusabdullah: username is 3dot
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02:31:57  <jesusabdullah>okay so one of them is a cloudfiles 404 and the other is a socket hangup, and otherwise they appeared to work
02:32:00  <jesusabdullah>sound about right?
02:32:13  <jesusabdullah>I think cloudfiles 404s is an ongoing topic of investigation
02:32:30  <mdedetrich>@jesusabdullah: I am not using cloudfiles for the site
02:32:40  <AvianFlu>the cloudfiles 404s are hiccups in cloudfiles
02:32:46  <AvianFlu>which we use for snapshot storage
02:32:48  <AvianFlu>they're intermittenet
02:32:50  <mdedetrich>oh right
02:32:59  <mdedetrich>well I managed to get it working now
02:33:04  <jesusabdullah>okay
02:33:12  <mdedetrich>as I said its random, nothing to do with my app
02:33:37  <jesusabdullah>sure, sure
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02:36:57  <mdedetrich>I thought cloudfiles was meant to be reliable
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02:37:47  <jesusabdullah>yeah well
02:38:18  <jesusabdullah>moving/creating things is always the hardest part
02:38:25  <jesusabdullah>once it's reached the state you want it to be in
02:38:27  <jesusabdullah>well
02:38:33  <jesusabdullah>steady states tend to be pretty well behaved
02:42:24  <jesusabdullah>trust me I'm a (mechanical) engineer (by training)!
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02:43:40  <mdedetrich>nah man, trust me
02:43:43  <mdedetrich>im wearing pants
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02:45:46  <sberryman>jesusabdullah: so what you are saying is that i shouldn't turn off my external raid cabinet that has been on for 365+ days?
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02:46:01  <jesusabdullah>almost
02:46:21  <sberryman>ha
02:46:42  <sberryman>actually i should be fine, we had a power outage last night and it reset
02:46:43  <jesusabdullah>I would say the chances of something not going 100% correct are more likely during startup and shutdown but the standards of reliability for hard drives are very high, and they're resilient to many types of soft failure
02:46:49  <rvagg>hey jitsu peeps, I don't suppose you could throw me a freebie so I can get ender.jit.su up?
02:47:14  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: hah, you are the ender maintainer aren't you?
02:47:16  <AvianFlu>rvagg: just tell me your username
02:47:20  <rvagg>rvagg
02:47:31  <AvianFlu>rvagg: we're on it
02:47:37  <AvianFlu>consider yourself sponsored
02:47:39  <rvagg>jesusabdullah: ya, I'm "responsible"
02:47:43  <rvagg>AvianFlu: thanks!
02:47:44  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: shall I or will you?
02:47:52  <jesusabdullah>haha, nice
02:47:57  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: I'm on it
02:48:01  <mmalecki>cool
02:48:45  <rvagg>I'll whack a jitsu logo on it or something!
02:48:57  <rvagg>tho the domainname should send a message
02:49:55  <AvianFlu>yeahlol
02:49:56  <mmalecki>rvagg: <3
02:49:59  <AvianFlu>but either way
02:50:00  <AvianFlu>DONE!
02:50:00  <sberryman>the massive nodejitsu logo for the 404 isn't doing the trick?
02:50:33  <jesusabdullah>well yeah but we need to put content about ender SOMEWHERE
02:50:56  <rvagg>404? what are you talking sberryman? http://ender.jit.su/
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02:51:09  <sberryman>ahh, i hit it before it was back up
02:51:21  <rvagg>nah, I just pressed deploy after you said that
02:52:18  <st_luke>rvagg: np, glad to see it's back up
02:52:32  <sberryman>sweet project
02:52:39  <sberryman>i had never heard of it
02:52:46  <st_luke>really valued utility for me
02:52:57  <jesusabdullah>I actually haven't had a chance to use it
02:53:43  <mdedetrich>rvagg: wat is ender?
02:53:49  <mdedetrich>*what
02:54:02  <rvagg>mdedetrich: have a read @ http://ender.jit.su !
02:54:07  <sberryman>mdedetrich: lots of info in the page they just brought back up
02:54:45  <mdedetrich>rvagg: that is god damn sexy
02:54:57  <mdedetrich>rvagg: will probably use it for socketstream
02:55:51  <rvagg>heh
02:56:00  <mdedetrich>rvagg: so let me get this straight
02:56:10  <mdedetrich>its a tool for using npm packages on the client
02:56:22  <mdedetrich>I assume that it prepundles a list of modules which is then served to the client?
02:56:33  <rvagg>sort of, it's that and it's also an ecosystem of independent components you can use together to make jQuery-like libs
02:56:51  <mdedetrich>does it use the common-js require system
02:56:54  <mdedetrich>that is used in node.js
02:57:04  <rvagg>pull libs out of npm and package them together, it's not browserify in that it doesn't attempt to take node modules and make them browser-compatible, it's for browser-specific libs
02:57:30  <rvagg>mdedetrich: it uses common-js internally, each lib exports on module.exports and uses require() to couple themselves together
02:57:52  <mdedetrich>right, but on the client, you wouldn't do something like require 'underscore' as you would in node.js
02:58:15  <rvagg>`ender add underscore` and underscore's exports are added to the $ object
02:58:46  <mdedetrich>hmm, that isn't exactly what we are looking for
02:59:10  <rvagg>well, TJ's component stuff is perhaps more commonjs
02:59:30  <rvagg>we're working towards a more pure commonjs modules system for 1.0, making the whole $ thing optional
02:59:48  <st_luke>one of the things that really draws me to ender is how little it tries to do
02:59:53  <mdedetrich>rvagg: yeah thats what Im looking for
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03:00:26  <rvagg>st_luke: indeed, don't bundle things that you're not going to use
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03:00:36  <mdedetrich>slightly offtopic, but a dedicated joyent machine
03:00:42  <mdedetrich>is basically as reliable as you can get
03:00:46  <st_luke>mdedetrich: you can alternately do var module = require('module') in ender
03:00:48  <mdedetrich>in terms of uptime
03:01:01  <mdedetrich>they claim 100% uptimte
03:01:11  <mdedetrich>st_luke: oh really, then I will look at it
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03:01:53  <st_luke>rvagg: looking forward to 1.0. wasn't sure if anything was on the roadmap or not.
03:02:35  <rvagg>st_luke: yes, it stalled for a little while cause I'm a bit overloaded but another team member is picking up the slack now and pushing forward
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03:04:09  <rvagg>st_luke: `npm install [email protected] -g` to use the latest btw
03:04:16  <mdedetrich>rvagg: does ember use something like uglifyjs
03:04:26  <rvagg>s/ember/ender
03:04:38  <rvagg>mdedetrich: yes, it provides an uglified output as well as a plain one
03:04:45  <rvagg>1.0 has an option for it
03:04:50  <rvagg>--minifier closure
03:04:54  <rvagg>--minifier none
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03:05:48  <st_luke>rvagg: awesome. if the person working on it now needs any additional help moving things forward I can contribute.
03:05:51  <rvagg>here's a monster build if you want to see what one looks like all bundled up: http://rvagg.github.com/ender-bootstrap/ender-bootstrap.js
03:06:06  <rvagg>powers ender-bootstrap, as seen here: http://rvagg.github.com/ender-bootstrap/
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03:07:06  <rvagg>st_luke: absolutely! pipe up on https://github.com/ender-js/Ender/issues/ - there's a couple of proposals there that @amccollum's put up wanting feedback, he's currently trying to take some of my 1.0 code and make it a little more modular, split off some separate bits because it's getting a bit out of hand
03:07:22  <rvagg>and there's #enderjs if you want to lurk, tho not a whole lot of action goes on there
03:09:11  <st_luke>rvagg: cool, will do!
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04:41:52  <martin___>your status is unfortunately not true... my successful deployment percentage is roughly 15% over the last couple of days. Here is a new one that I had a couple times today, you might want to investigate: https://gist.github.com/4043715
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04:46:06  <AvianFlu>martin___: those are rackspace cloudfiles having hiccups
04:46:14  <AvianFlu>we're looking into alternate snapshot storage options
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04:51:11  <martin___>avianflue thx for the tyi
04:51:22  <martin___>fyi :)
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05:00:29  <martin___>AvianFlu another one, problem with irisnpm: https://gist.github.com/4043781 that worked till about an hour ago :-(
05:01:11  <AvianFlu>those ssh:// urls shouldn't ever work
05:01:15  <AvianFlu>our servers have no git keys on them
05:01:47  <martin___>I use bundled dependencies, so that should not even show up...
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05:04:36  <AvianFlu>does modesta-queue-engine have a build script?
05:04:42  <alexi>Just curious if all your machines are SmartOS now?
05:04:45  <AvianFlu>I've seen a lot of modules try to do really weird things when they compile
05:04:59  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: sudoers fix has been rolled out, it shouldn't rebuild
05:05:04  <alexi>I have couple libs that are linux only
05:05:10  <martin___>AvianFlu no, it's just basic js, does nothing. And it worked till like a couple hours ago
05:05:38  <AvianFlu>martin___: we haven't made any changes to the build process
05:05:42  <AvianFlu>is that now happening every time?
05:05:48  <AvianFlu>are you sure nothing changed on your end?
05:08:09  <martin___>Avianflu nothing there. since about 2 days my successful deployment rate dropped from roughly 90% to 15%, and it stayed there. And this one is new, and now happened 3 times in a row...
05:08:27  <AvianFlu>are all the failures cloudfiles 404s?
05:08:33  <AvianFlu>besides these?
05:09:20  <martin___>hmm. Ignore this one. THis was literally the cat...
05:10:09  <martin___>but for the rest, it's either socket hang up, or time outs during npm install, or the rackspace
05:10:22  <AvianFlu>timeouts?
05:10:34  <AvianFlu>`jitsu config set timeout abignumber`
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05:10:58  <martin___>yeah, when npm is installing, and then you kill the connection, either because of timeouts or memory issues
05:10:59  <AvianFlu>and rackspace, we're gonna replace, because they're becoming decreasingly reliable over time
05:11:21  <martin___>ok great.
05:13:40  <jcrugzz>AvianFlu: what kept happening with rackspace? I've had decent experience with them in the past but never used node on their servers
05:13:51  <AvianFlu>this is cloudfiles
05:14:04  <AvianFlu>we upload things, and it keeps taking longer and longer for the urls to be valid afterwards
05:15:52  <jcrugzz>huh really? that is interesting. What do you guys plan to switch to? I'm currently using rackspace but the usage isnt anywhere near yours id imagine
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06:24:22  <st_luke>AvianFlu: do you guys host http://planetnodejs.com/
06:24:59  <mmalecki>we do
06:25:03  <mmalecki>oh wow, nice
06:26:06  <mmalecki>I started it
06:26:13  <mmalecki>gotta look in the logs
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06:36:41  <st_luke>mmalecki: thanks
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07:09:03  <JasonSmith>Hey mmalecki
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07:42:24  <yawnt>yo deoxxa[cookies]
07:42:58  <deoxxa[cookies]>sup
07:43:54  <yawnt>deoxxa[cookies]: i'll be in brescia tomorrow morning at 8:07
07:43:58  <yawnt>LOCAL TIME
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07:44:04  <deoxxa[cookies]>locale time?
07:44:12  <deoxxa[cookies]>.toLocaleString()???
07:44:19  <yawnt>maybe
07:44:21  <yawnt>who knows
07:44:24  <yawnt>I'LL JUST APPEAR
07:44:25  <deoxxa[cookies]>#node.js makes me want to cry sometimes
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07:44:27  <yawnt>FROM THE FOG
07:44:29  <yawnt>LIKE GOKU
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07:47:45  <deoxxa[cookies]>lol mmalecki has been working hard
07:48:01  <yawnt>WHILE YOU'VE BEEN CHILLING HUH?
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07:48:07  <deoxxa[cookies]>precisely
07:48:13  <yawnt>csb
07:48:15  <yawnt>so yeah
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07:48:16  <alucardX>hi
07:48:17  <yawnt>i'll see ya tomorrow
07:48:21  <deoxxa[cookies]>kewl
07:48:25  <yawnt>BE THERE
07:48:30  <yawnt>oh wait
07:48:31  <deoxxa[cookies]>or be square
07:48:36  <yawnt>i forgot to tell you the train
07:48:43  <deoxxa[cookies]>there's only one train
07:48:44  <deoxxa[cookies]>it's like
07:48:51  <deoxxa[cookies]>get on it and make sure it's going in the right direction
07:48:52  <yawnt>07:22
07:49:03  <yawnt>train number 1017
07:49:09  <yawnt>arrives in brescia at 07:54
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07:49:37  <yawnt>out.
07:49:38  <yawnt>bb
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09:13:05  <InspiredJW>Can I use wildcard SSL on nodejitsu?
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09:47:39  <torvalde>Hi nodejitsu! Maciej Malecki created a fix for a timezone bug on solaris and smartos, do you know it there is a version of nodejs I can run on nodejitsu that includes this fix? http://codereview.chromium.org/10967066/
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12:47:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/flatiron/compare/fc5f07977ff0...573b5cc07f69
12:47:51  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/flatiron/builds/3127114
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13:46:22  <john__>Good morning folks, quick question, does nodejitsu have a smtp server so we can send email in our app?
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13:52:20  <hij1nx>hi john__ :)
13:52:48  <hij1nx>john__: you still there?
13:53:06  <AvianFlu>john__: we don't have smtp available - you should look into a solution like sendgrid
13:53:09  <AvianFlu>or another email service
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13:53:22  <john__>im here!
13:53:43  <john__>alright, sendgrid it is then, thx
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15:29:13  <wafflesauce>I just deployed and everything was okay. However, getting Internal Server Error with this message: [Error: ENOENT, no such file or directory '/opt/haibu/apps/civicseed/CivicSeed-testing/package/client/static/assets/main/1352473661028.html']
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16:30:25  <chrisjenx>popped on to mention the billing issues
16:31:07  <anoemi>chrisjenx: hey there!
16:31:08  <anoemi>whats going on?
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16:33:43  <rodw>Question: Trying to deploy an app that has a dependency in package.json that points to a _private_ GitHub repository. Locally, when I run `npm install` I need to auth to my GitHub account. What should I do when deploying to nodejitsu?
16:34:08  <mmalecki>rodw: bundle it (add to bundleDependencies)
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16:34:24  <rodw>bundleDependencies is an attribute in package.json?
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16:34:39  <mmalecki>yup
16:34:40  <rodw>I saw the phrase online, but couldn't figure out what it meant.
16:34:50  <rodw>Awesome. I'll try that.
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16:45:43  <chrisjenx>Hes gone, but I got payment declined, called the bank, nodejitsu looks really dodgy to their fraud system.
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16:46:12  <chrisjenx>so not sure if its worth you guys billing under a different name, something which looks less... odd
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16:46:52  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: oh, I don't think we can legally do that, actually
16:46:59  <deoxxa[cookies]>like "mollman industry and associates"
16:47:04  <deoxxa[cookies]>very nondescript
16:47:19  <chrisjenx>mmalecki: im assuming your registered as nodejitsu?
16:47:24  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: so fraud system blocked the payment? that's odd
16:47:27  <mmalecki>and yeah, we are
16:47:51  <chrisjenx>ahh thought your company name might be different (nodejitsu, being a 'product')
16:48:36  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: did you get that resolved with your bank? I'm wondering if other customers might be getting same problems
16:48:55  <chrisjenx>yeah mmalecki does not like it, hopefully now they have flagged it should not happen for anyone on my bank.
16:49:22  <chrisjenx>mmalecki: yeah called them, resolved and unblocked my card lol! but yeah i think it might be quite likely at least in the UK
16:49:55  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: oh, they actually blocked your credit card? daaang, that's rough
16:50:12  <mmalecki>but thanks for letting us know, we'll see if we can do something about it
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16:53:09  <chrisjenx>mmalecki: haha yeah, lucky it was post shopping otherwise could of been embarrassing!
16:53:19  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: yeah
16:53:26  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: I have one horror story about that
16:53:48  <chrisjenx>Unrelated question, do you guys have hosting nodes in europe/london?
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16:54:01  <mmalecki>I bought food at Lisbon airport and then took money out of the ATM in Munich, in less than 3 hour interval
16:54:07  <chrisjenx>haha
16:54:10  <mmalecki>then I try to buy food in Lisbon
16:54:16  <chrisjenx>hah
16:54:17  <chrisjenx>yeah
16:54:17  <mmalecki>bang, all cards blocked, fraud detection
16:54:23  <chrisjenx>bet they didnt like that
16:55:27  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: we can do a setup in Amsterdam
16:55:54  <chrisjenx>you got something i can ping/speed test i can try?
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16:56:24  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: no, not yet unfortunately, aiming to do some experimental setup soon after NKO
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16:57:06  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] cronopio created new-providers (+2 new commits): http://git.io/8HLjNQ
16:57:06  <Nodejitsu-Github>jitsu/new-providers e7f19ac cronopio: [databases][fix] fixes for handle the new providers
16:57:06  <Nodejitsu-Github>jitsu/new-providers f504fa0 cronopio: [fix] use the host in the metadata
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16:57:16  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: however, you can pingmy server in Amsterdam
16:57:27  <mmalecki>IP is 37.153.96.34
16:57:44  <mmalecki>and one of our LBs in USA or api.nodejitsu.com
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16:58:35  <chrisjenx>Amsterdam about 40ms av
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16:59:57  <chrisjenx>and usa about 100ms so yeah would be noticable. assuming you guys will send out an email when you have different regions?
17:00:11  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: we can talk about enabling it for you :)
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17:01:14  <chrisjenx>mmalecki: cool, well if i could have a worker in each region that would be awesome.. but not sure what would be involved in that?
17:01:42  <chrisjenx>(drone*)
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17:02:16  <mmalecki>chrisjenx: mind emailing maciej, cc devops and nuno (all @nodejitsu.com) and telling us more about your usecase and such? also how many servers you'd be running? these kind of details
17:02:28  <chrisjenx>sure :)
17:05:25  <chrisjenx>I'll email later, cheers all!
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18:22:58  <visnup>any official word on how many drones the nko3- accounts can spin up?
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18:23:38  <mmalecki>visnup: 3
18:23:51  <mmalecki>visnup: we can scale up if things get popular
18:24:03  <visnup>mmalecki: sweet, thanks.
18:24:16  <mmalecki>visnup: pleasure. hit us up with any questions
18:24:27  <mmalecki>working hard to make things awesome for NKO :)
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18:31:34  <niallo>do nodejitsu containers have `git` and `ssh` binaries available? asking for my NKO contest app which needs those
18:32:02  <niallo>actually i need ssh-keygen not ssh per se
18:32:31  <mmalecki>niallo: checking, but we should, sec
18:32:59  <mmalecki>niallo: yes
18:33:06  <niallo>mmalecki: sweet, i figured they'd be there, thanks!
18:33:15  <mmalecki>pleasure
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18:34:45  <visnup>any word on the username/password import I sent over? (to AvianFlu and Bradley Meck)
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18:36:15  <mmalecki>visnup: they are there already
18:36:24  <visnup>mmalecki: hotness
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18:37:36  <visnup>mmalecki: haha no one confirmed with us :)
18:38:33  <mmalecki>visnup: sorry, I'll make sure you get notified
18:40:24  <visnup>mmalecki: no problem, we were just getting anxious :)
18:40:38  <mmalecki>visnup: I can totally understand that :)
18:40:51  <mmalecki>visnup: we have full hands to be honest
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18:43:06  <deoxxa[cookies]>it's true, mmalecki is saying all sorts of naughty words, working on various things to keep you guys happy ;)
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18:43:14  <visnup>wooooo
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18:43:57  <mmalecki>lololol
18:45:12  <Sly>rofl, deoxxa[cookies].
18:45:17  <Sly>I told him about his snoring.
18:45:22  <Sly>He didn't deny it.
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18:45:46  <deoxxa[cookies]>hahaha
18:46:14  <mmalecki>how can I deny that I snore?
18:46:18  <deoxxa[cookies]>easy
18:46:20  <deoxxa[cookies]>just be like
18:46:21  <deoxxa[cookies]>"nuh uh"
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18:50:44  <visnup>error: Unable to Authenticate as nko3-fortnight-labs
18:50:44  <visnup>error: Nodejitsu Error (401): Not Authorized
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18:54:45  <AvianFlu>visnup: what jitsu and node versions are you running locally
18:54:55  <visnup>info: jitsu v0.10.4, node v0.8.14
18:55:32  <visnup>upgrading to 0.10.5...
18:55:43  <AvianFlu>that's worth a shot, but I don't know if it would affect anything here
18:55:46  <AvianFlu>the 401 part is strange
18:55:54  <Sly>^ beat me to what I was going to say.
18:56:24  <mmalecki>visnup: run it with --debug and pm output to AvianFlu please
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19:04:52  <visnup>oh no, it's started: "Will be possible to install a kernel module?"
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19:05:24  <mmalecki>visnup: ...do I have to answer?
19:05:33  <visnup>no
19:05:36  <mmalecki>:)
19:05:38  <visnup>not sure what to tell him though
19:05:52  <mmalecki>ask him to show up here
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19:06:00  <mmalecki>we can help him out and find a different way
19:06:02  <visnup>is there an email address I should cc any of these emails to?
19:06:08  <visnup>oh awesome, AvianFlu replied
19:06:12  <visnup>wooooo
19:06:35  <AvianFlu>visnup: yeah, I already get those
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19:11:18  <mmalecki>visnup: apparently we got hashes wrong, will migrate
19:11:51  <visnup>AvianFlu: thanks for replying :)
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19:12:03  <AvianFlu>visnup: np
19:12:03  <AvianFlu>we'll get these logins fixed in a sec
19:12:08  <visnup>sweet
19:12:50  <mmalecki>visnup: what's the node knockout twitter hashtag?
19:13:02  <mmalecki>is there any?
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19:17:53  <visnup>there is none
19:18:00  <visnup>we don't believe in hash tags
19:18:03  <visnup>but if you have to use one
19:18:06  <visnup>I'd suggest #nko3
19:18:27  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: you see where I'm going with this one?
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19:18:48  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: .......................................................no.
19:18:51  <visnup>am I missing a good joke here?
19:18:57  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: go and setup kohai so that it show nko-related tweets in here, would you?
19:19:06  <mmalecki>the usual + nko
19:19:12  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: not gonna fly, there's twitter API breakage
19:19:16  <AvianFlu>I'd have to spend an hour patching things
19:19:32  <visnup>I have a twitter search for "nodeknockout OR node_knockout" which seems to catch all the relevant things
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19:27:14  <visnup>AvianFlu: that login seems to work for me now
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19:27:51  <AvianFlu>visnup: yeah, they've all now been fixed
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19:47:52  <mark__>hey
19:48:39  <mark__>I'm having an issue with a nodejitsu app I deployed
19:49:02  <mark__>about 1/2 of the time my Socket.IO handshake is failing but nothing is showing up the logs
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19:57:56  <martin____>Deployment issue again. Tried 10 times, always get 500 internal server error. Name: modeista-identity
19:58:00  <Guest20345>Hey guys, if my password has a "@" in it and I try to login in http://webops.nodejitsu.com/ the login box fade out, so I can't login!
20:02:55  <blakmatrix>martin____: looking
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20:03:09  <coderarity>Guest20345: that's weird, lemme try it
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20:06:00  <blakmatrix>martin____: can you gist me your package.json
20:07:28  <techwraith>Hey guys, I haven't used my jitsu account for a few months, I forgot my password. I used the "forgot my password link" but I haven't received an email yet. What's up?
20:08:07  <AvianFlu>techwraith: sometimes, we've had corporate spam filters block them; sometimes, emails just get lost in space
20:08:21  <AvianFlu>wait a few, check your spam, and worst-case, I'll pm you the code you need
20:08:29  <techwraith>k
20:08:31  <blakmatrix>techwraith: if you can verify your e-mail for me I can give you a command to run
20:08:40  <blakmatrix>techwraith: pm me
20:09:03  <martin____>blakmatrix https://gist.github.com/4047913
20:09:41  <mmalecki>martin____: know the reason, rolling patch out
20:10:40  <martin____>mmalecki thx
20:11:28  <mmalecki>martin____: as a quick work around, remove devDependencies from your package.json
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20:13:23  <coderarity>Guest20345: @'s in passwords work for me - what browser are you on?
20:13:28  <martin____>mmalecki thx, but I can wait :-)
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20:15:25  <Guest20345>@coderarity Google Chrome - VersiĆ³n 23.0.1271.64 | Ubuntu 12.10
20:16:32  <mark__>hey guys
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20:16:39  <mark__>getting internal server errors when i try to deploy :\
20:17:04  <yawnt>hey mark__ , can i see your package.json and jitsu's full output?
20:17:07  <yawnt>thanks :)
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20:17:12  <guybrush>so with my app in nko3, i can just spawn multiple processes? i mean cp.spawn()
20:17:34  <mark__>{
20:17:34  <mark__> "name": "operator-api",
20:17:36  <mark__> "version": "0.0.1-54",
20:17:37  <mark__> "author": "Mark Davis <[email protected]>",
20:17:39  <mark__> "description": "Socket server for Operator",
20:17:40  <mark__> "subdomain": "operator",
20:17:41  <guybrush>like i want to make a game where multiple rooms run at once
20:17:42  <mark__> "scripts": {
20:17:42  <blakmatrix>guybrush: for what purpose
20:17:43  <mark__> "start": "./app.js"
20:17:45  <mark__> },
20:17:46  <mark__> "repository": {
20:17:48  <mark__> "type": "git",
20:17:49  <mark__> "url": "https://github.com/metalabdesign/operator-api"
20:17:51  <mark__> },
20:17:52  <mark__> "dependencies": {
20:17:54  <mark__> "express": "3.x",
20:17:55  <yawnt>mark__: not here , on http://gist.github.com
20:17:55  <mark__> "socket.io": "0.9.x",
20:17:57  <mark__> "crypto": "0.0.x",
20:17:58  <mark__> "mongodb": "1.1.11",
20:18:00  <mark__> "mongoose": "3.3.1",
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20:18:01  <mark__> "redis": "0.8.x",
20:18:03  <mark__> "apn": "1.2.x"
20:18:04  <mark__> },
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20:18:06  <mark__> "engines": {
20:18:07  <mark__> "node": "0.8.x",
20:18:07  <blakmatrix>!stfu mark__
20:18:09  <mark__> "npm": "1.1.x"
20:18:10  <mark__> }
20:18:11  <mark__>}
20:18:12  <mark__>whoops
20:18:13  <mark__>didn't mean to do that
20:18:18  <yawnt>mark__: on http://gist.github.com
20:18:22  <blakmatrix>mark__: gist pleas nex time
20:18:27  <mark__>sorry guys
20:18:29  <mark__>honest mistake
20:18:32  <mark__>https://gist.github.com/4047971
20:18:50  <yawnt>mark__: i'll need jitsu's output too, thanks :)
20:19:26  <mark__>looks like it's working now :)
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20:19:34  <mark__>4th time was a charm
20:19:50  <Guest20345>@coderarity check it out http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/clXQYFVcMS
20:19:53  <yawnt>good ;), you might just've hit a bad drone
20:20:07  <mark__>thanks for the awesome support guys
20:20:14  <mark__>you run a great service
20:20:16  <blakmatrix>guybrush: running extra processes will probably be counterproductive, each machine has only about 256 MB RAm
20:20:18  <yawnt>mark__: anytime, if you have other issues, just ask :)
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20:32:06  <raphapassini>Hello guys. I want nodejitsu to ignore a directory when i deploy a package, is that possible?
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20:32:18  <AvianFlu>raphapassini: add it to .npmignore
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20:33:16  <larzconwell>When you deploy, does it also exclude the paths in an existing .gitignore?
20:33:41  <AvianFlu>larzconwell: only if there's no .npmignore
20:33:51  <larzconwell>AvianFlu, Okay thanks a bunch!
20:34:14  <jcrugzz>ls
20:34:27  <raphapassini>How can i test to see if it works?
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20:34:51  <AvianFlu>`npm pack`
20:34:54  <AvianFlu>then look inside the tarball
20:34:57  <AvianFlu>same semantics
20:36:04  <coderarity>Guest20345: btw, apparently I have to install java, sec
20:38:21  <raphapassini>@AvianFlu, thx! Worked just fine! :)
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20:43:01  <coderarity>Guest20345: O_o
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20:47:02  <coderarity>Guest20345: does it work in another browser? I can't reproduce - I'm guessing that's because you have an spanish keyboard or something?
20:47:52  <Guest20345>@coderarity probably let me try on firefox
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20:51:32  <Guest84355>@coderarity firefox is just fine
20:51:35  <Guest84355>weird thou
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20:52:00  <coderarity>Guest84355: yeah, i'll definitely check up on this
20:52:03  <coderarity>thanks for reporting
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20:52:28  <Guest84355>@coderarity no problem, thanks for your help
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20:54:53  <coderarity>Guest84355: do you mind telling me exactly what keyboard layout you're using?
20:55:03  <coderarity>so we can hunt it dowjn
20:55:05  <coderarity>down*
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21:04:04  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] cronopio pushed 1 new commit to new-providers: http://git.io/cqZVVA
21:04:04  <Nodejitsu-Github>jitsu/new-providers bae3790 cronopio: [databases] Enable support for databses with old info
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21:04:17  <mmalecki>cronopio: ++ winning
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21:36:07  <mappum>mannnn, i'm having developer's block for NKO
21:36:23  <larzconwell>Can I get some help with this error? https://gist.github.com/4048412 I'm not really sure why it won't deploy, it was a few minutes ago.
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21:38:13  <blakmatrix>larzconwell: let me take a look
21:38:23  <larzconwell>blakmatrix, Thank you
21:38:28  <mmalecki>mappum: sup?
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21:39:13  <mmalecki>mappum: if this is a psychological block, booze is known to help
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21:40:06  <mappum>or weed, which would now be legal for me
21:40:10  <mappum>well, in a month or something
21:40:18  <mmalecki>yup
21:40:26  <coderarity>assuming the DOJ decides not to fight it
21:40:35  <mappum>(except not really because i'm underage)
21:41:18  <martin____>Question: Is node_mailer still the mailer to use for node? I need to send emails with embedded image attachments
21:41:22  <coderarity>yeah, there's that too
21:41:44  <martin____>coderarity Obama is in his second term, and he is pro pot. I think things will change
21:41:56  <coderarity>he is? i don't know
21:42:08  <mappum>actually i don't think he is
21:42:24  <mappum>obama increased funding to the DEA and has had the highest amount of pot-related raids by far
21:42:25  <AvianFlu>martin____: don't use node_mailer
21:42:28  <martin____>coderarity yes, he had to downplay this in the last couple years, but now he has less constraints
21:42:29  <coderarity>i mean, his term is now too, so I doubt that his policies will change much
21:42:35  <AvianFlu>it has a ton of extra data in the npm package to foil deploys
21:42:46  <blakmatrix>larzconwell: try redeploying while I watch
21:43:00  <martin____>AvianFlu ah well, what should I use
21:43:14  <larzconwell>blakmatrix, Deploying now.
21:43:18  <AvianFlu>I'd recommend an external service
21:43:24  <AvianFlu>or at least peruse for other modules
21:43:35  <martin____>AvianFlu we are using sendgrid - which suggests nodemailer :-)
21:43:35  <AvianFlu>node_mailer is 100% unmaintained, I can assure you
21:43:44  <martin____>haha, yeah, marak is gone...
21:43:46  <AvianFlu>jesusabdullah has a node-sendgrid that may work out
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21:43:54  <mappum>do any of you have problems in your lives that i can solve with a 48-hour app?
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21:44:29  <cronopio>mappum: yeah sure, there is a lot of problems, at least in my country :P
21:44:40  <martin____>mappum lottery number prediction>? :-)
21:44:44  <mmalecki>mappum: I'm miserable like that
21:44:45  <cronopio>mappum: the tiny business need tools!
21:45:26  <mappum>i know, an app for brainstorming NKO ideas!
21:45:37  <mappum>then I can use it to get an idea
21:45:55  <cronopio>mappum: cool
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21:46:47  <blakmatrix>larzconwell: that drone had a problem with its logs, 3rd times the charm try deploying again
21:47:06  <larzconwell>blakmatrix, Here we go again!
21:48:38  <larzconwell>blakmatrix, Some other weird error, need the stack trace?
21:48:52  <blakmatrix>sure send it to me
21:49:09  <larzconwell>blakmatrix, https://gist.github.com/4048477
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21:49:59  <blakmatrix>I'm seeing something a bit off, you have liek 2 usernames hollo.levente and then larzconwell i havent see this before
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21:50:29  <larzconwell>I just created the account to test Geddy on Nodejitsu, that is weird.
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21:50:53  <blakmatrix>do you know what hollo.levente is?
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21:51:50  <larzconwell>I have no idea.
21:53:05  <coderarity>blakmatrix: maybe someone is deploying with the same app name
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21:53:33  <blakmatrix>coderarity: at the same time?
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21:53:46  <mikepage>Hi node devs! I am looking to Nodejitsu for deployment of a message service (like Whatsapp), for use in the Netherlands. Does anyone know how's the availability in the EU.
21:53:47  <coderarity>like interleaved? no
21:53:48  <jesusabdullah>somewhat plausible especially if the app name is generic
21:53:56  <jesusabdullah>mikepage: our machines are all in us-east-1
21:53:56  <mmalecki>mikepage: hey
21:54:00  <larzconwell>I can change it and see what happens?
21:54:05  <techwraith>yeah, that's totally it. I think I have the same app name as him
21:54:07  <mmalecki>mikepage: we can do a private setup in Amsterdam
21:54:22  <techwraith>geddy-test or some such
21:54:36  <techwraith>different subdomains though
21:54:45  <mikepage>Ok, currently I'm still in development. Good to know that private setup is an option.
21:54:46  <AvianFlu>mikepage: we have no hosting in the EU yet
21:55:01  <larzconwell>techwraith, Nah I changed the name from that
21:55:03  <mmalecki>^ (in public cloud)
21:55:16  <techwraith>ah, nvm then
21:55:17  <mikepage>It shouldn't be difficult because Joyent opened a DC in Amsterdam, last August ;-)
21:55:35  <coderarity>nice
21:55:42  <mikepage>You're hosted at Joyent Cloud, aren't you?
21:55:44  <AvianFlu>mikepage: in a month or so
21:55:53  <AvianFlu>we'll have a public cloud in joyent amstedamn
21:55:55  <mikepage>That would be great!
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21:56:21  <blakmatrix>larzconwell: your last deploy tried installing npm dependencies on the dron, effectively bypassing the build server thys ran out of memorey... we have a fix possibly comming
21:56:25  <blakmatrix>mmalecki: ^
21:56:47  <mmalecki>it has been just rolled out actually
21:57:12  <larzconwell>blakmatrix, Okay sounds great
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22:55:42  <Nodejitsu-Github>jitsu/master 2a39482 Charlie McConnell: Merge pull request #353 from nodejitsu/new-providers...
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22:56:38  <Nodejitsu-Github>jitsu/master 50baabb Charlie McConnell: [dist] Version bump, v0.11.0
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23:09:41  <itayneeman>nodejitsu people - what version of node are you running right now? (for node knockout people)
23:10:13  <coderarity>several version in 0.8.x
23:10:14  <Sly>itayneeman, there are several versions. Give me one second and I'll check to get an actual list for you.
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23:10:33  <itayneeman>Sly: thank you. I assume we select one from specification in package.json?
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23:10:49  <coderarity>itayneeman: yes
23:10:53  <Sly>itayneeman, you should use the "engines" field for it.
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23:11:54  <Sly>0.6.21 0.8.5 0.8.6 0.8.8 0.8.9
23:11:59  <Sly>itayneeman, ^
23:12:14  <itayneeman>Sly: awesome, thank you
23:12:24  <blakmatrix>but its best just to use 0.8.x as a specification
23:12:51  <itayneeman>I don't trust version wildcards :)
23:12:56  <blakmatrix>as a general rule
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23:14:06  <blakmatrix>itayneeman: trust is a two why street haha if the other end cant build or remove trust then it's not really a relationshi where trust exists at all lol
23:14:33  <itayneeman>blakmatrix: fair enough, but every time I've specified any kind of leniency on version dependencies, it has bitten me
23:14:41  <itayneeman>anyway, discussion for another time :)
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23:15:55  <blakmatrix>itayneeman: besides 0.8.x denotes only a patch wild card, and it being node, and not some gangbanger library maintainer that doesnt understand semver... well I'd say it's a good chance it'd follow th rules set out for the versioning system haha
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23:16:47  <blakmatrix>but yess I have seen people misuse versioning on packages
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23:34:13  <stringhq>can we use redistogo for node knockout? jitsu databases create myredis not working for me
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23:35:49  <blakmatrix>stringhq: we're havin issues with redistogo... we're working on rolling out an alternative
23:35:59  <stringhq>cool
23:36:05  <blakmatrix>irislab and mongolab
23:36:19  <stringhq>got mongolab going already
23:36:54  <coderarity>irisredis*
23:37:01  <blakmatrix>*irisredis LOL
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23:38:10  <AvianFlu>it'll be about ten minutes before it's live
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23:46:23  <diorahman>have just realized, using restful, if we have no GET /creature/1 it will return {"creature" : "1"} instead of 404
23:46:43  <diorahman>is it the expected behavior? or we can override this?
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23:47:46  <mmalecki>oh?
23:47:51  <mmalecki>it definitely shouldn't do that
23:47:54  <mmalecki>cc pksunkara
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23:49:15  <diorahman>yes, i have read the latest code it should return 404, i will check my current fetched npm module
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23:56:59  <doki_pen>is it possible to open arbitrary ports on nodejitsu?
23:57:28  <mmalecki>martin____: did that patch fix your issues?
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23:59:21  <AvianFlu>doki_pen: no, we load balance over port 80 only
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23:59:31  <martin____>mmalecki worked like a charm :-)
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