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00:08:40  <jamies>hiya. my logs (via jitsu logs) haven't updated since last night-- app is running fine, any way to kick them back on?
00:09:06  <coderarity>jamies: i'll get them for you; username/appname?
00:09:08  <nathan7>loggly had an outage, unfortunately
00:09:50  <jamies>yeah, farrin had mentioned that and said it was resolve as of 10am pst-- but mine are still stuck unfortunatly
00:10:02  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: I heard you guys are moving away from loggly, is that true?
00:10:02  <jamies>u/n jsteven -- only have 1 app currently
00:10:54  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: we're going to roll out a service for the most recent logs
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00:11:05  <AvianFlu>so you can get the equivalent of tail -f on your deploy logs
00:11:19  <switz>AvianFlu: that would be great
00:11:23  <mdedetrich>ah ok, reason I am asking is where are currently considering loggly
00:11:27  <coderarity>jamies: hold up - what's your username?
00:11:33  <mdedetrich>but we are not using it in production (yet)
00:11:37  <mikeumus>Hey Gang, deploy troubles: https://gist.github.com/4158081
00:11:40  <mdedetrich>it seems it has issues with delays on logs
00:11:55  <jamies>coderarity: jsteven
00:12:00  <mikeumus>whenever you get a chance to check it out, not urgent and probably quite noob.
00:12:14  <coderarity>jamies: alright
00:12:28  <AvianFlu>mikeumus: looks like something tried to read an .html file as a .js file
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00:14:36  <mikeumus>AvianFlu: yeah... I have a simple front end that I was working with in Cloud9IDE but then using YUI, it calls back to yahoo servers for Y.Router and doesn't work in C9's Preview so I figured to deploy to my jit.su. Is it possible to execute something that actually doesn't employ node? Just to render it?
00:15:13  <mikeumus>It'll have node.js plumbers working on it after I'm done with my part so one day it'll live on a nodejitsu server.
00:15:23  <AvianFlu>you could use an ez-mode static file server in node
00:15:40  <AvianFlu>try `jitsu install http-server` and put your frontend into its ./public/
00:15:53  <mikeumus>okay
00:15:59  <mikeumus>cool, thanks
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01:08:16  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: you ever see a whale vertebra
01:08:21  <jesusabdullah>? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesusabdullah/8224799147
01:08:22  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: ^^
01:09:12  <blakmatrix1>I used to pretend those were hoverboards
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01:17:09  <CoverSlide>wow all whale vertebra have broomsticks with horse heads attached to them
01:17:23  <CoverSlide>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg
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01:26:22  <jesusabdullah>CoverSlide: that's right!
01:26:47  <st_luke>where's kohai?
01:26:58  <blakmatrix1>in the corner
01:27:09  <jesusabdullah>chillin'
01:27:19  <substack>like a VILLAIN
01:27:59  <blakmatrix1>beneath
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02:11:47  <mrchess>Will nodejitsu be able to support an application that has 10,000 concurrent users?
02:12:07  <coderarity>theoretically
02:12:34  <coderarity>depends on how your app performs and how many drones you put out
02:12:58  <coderarity>you should be able to do it though
02:13:13  <mrchess>how many concurrent users can that 5 drone plan handle?
02:13:32  <coderarity>it really depends
02:14:29  <coderarity>i can't give a hard number like that
02:14:35  <mrchess>Is there a way to measure? By messages/sec or something?
02:14:37  <mrchess>Hmm ok.
02:14:58  <mrchess>I'm thinking a chatserver that supports 200 concurrent people.
02:15:03  <coderarity>a few hundred per drone, maybe, but it could be way less or even more
02:15:28  <coderarity>socket.io might require more drones, like maybe 2 in this case
02:15:41  <coderarity>but again, i really can't say, it depends a lot on your app
02:15:53  <switz>2, for 10,000?
02:16:01  <coderarity>no
02:16:26  <mrchess>well my app is basically multiple chat rooms, with 200 people in each room
02:16:28  <coderarity>2, for 200 in a chat situation, depending on your app maybe more or less
02:16:38  <mrchess>i'm just wondering how nodejitsu could accomodate to that
02:16:41  <coderarity>maybe 1 drone for 200
02:16:53  <coderarity>i mean, theoretically yes, we can.
02:16:59  <coderarity>but i can't tell you how your app is going to perform
02:18:40  <mrchess>is there any information i can tell you just to get an estimate of how well it would perform?
02:18:58  <mrchess>i mean, i see you guys have enterprise level plans i'm wondering how much stress they can take
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02:19:10  <mrchess>well, business level, perhaps not enterprise
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02:19:56  <coderarity>256 MB of RAM per drone, 1 virtual core
02:20:06  <coderarity>and the business plans aren't out yey
02:20:07  <coderarity>yet*
02:20:12  <coderarity>that spec is for the individual plan
02:20:45  <coderarity>the enterprise thing is where we set up a private cloud, that's a little different
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02:23:10  <mrchess>hmm ok. so if i move a node server that handles 2000 concurrent users (10 sepearte 200 person chat rooms) it probably can't survive on the 5 drone plan?
02:23:55  <coderarity>i imagine it can if it performs well
02:24:07  <mrchess>it meaning my server code?
02:24:15  <coderarity>yeah
02:24:33  <coderarity>if you already have a node server running, look at how much memory the process is using
02:25:48  <coderarity>but you know, it's got to be scalable, database performance and drone communication can affect things
02:25:59  <mrchess>using 800mb right now
02:26:11  <mrchess>yeah i see
02:26:20  <coderarity>we had one person who even with 5 drones got the same performance as having only 1 drone because of how it was written
02:26:47  <coderarity>and another person was doing really well with 1 drone and several hundred concurrent connections
02:27:01  <coderarity>mrchess: sounds like it should be possible
02:27:51  <mrchess>cool cool, i'll have to give it a try
02:27:58  <coderarity>indeed
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02:28:31  <mrchess>you guys don't have an article on how you load balance a node server do you?
02:28:45  <coderarity>it's round robin with sticky sessions
02:29:03  <coderarity>so it just splits them evenly across drones, but if the same person connects twice they'll still get the same drone
02:29:25  <mrchess>i see
02:30:28  <switz>that's interesting
02:35:06  <mrchess>well sounds like i'll have to try it and see what happens
02:35:10  <mrchess>tahnks for the advice
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04:26:54  <matej_>is nodejitsu running slow or is this my router..
04:27:49  <coderarity>seems fine to me, did it say ETIMEDOUT? maybe you should `jitsu config set timeout 1000000`
04:28:09  <matej_>ok its just me then
04:28:11  <matej_>anyway
04:28:19  <matej_>i can't connecto to mongodb using mongoskin
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04:28:39  <matej_>it always says something like it cannot authenticate or something
04:30:54  <AK4VL>what does this mean --> {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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04:31:06  <AK4VL>Sorry to intrude, btw
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04:31:52  <AK4VL>Just checked my app to see how it was doing and saw this
04:32:25  <coderarity>AK4VL: check `jitsu logs`
04:33:15  <AK4VL>Ok I will, thanks
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04:33:46  <AK4VL>Been almost 2 years since I've been on #nodejitsu, good to see its still going
04:34:46  <AK4VL>My timing might be off a lil bit, bout 18 months, back when Nodejitsu was by invite/ask only
04:35:10  <coderarity>longer than me
04:35:16  <coderarity>i've only been here like a year
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04:35:27  <coderarity>well, 13 months now
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04:53:56  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: id like to do something
04:54:57  <mdedetrich>and that is
04:54:59  <mdedetrich>report a bug!
04:55:05  <mdedetrich>with your interface on webops
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05:02:28  <coderarity>mdedetrich: what type of bug?
05:02:38  <coderarity>oh, a webops bug, lol
05:02:42  <coderarity>mdedetrich: what is it?
05:02:51  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: if the environment variables are too long
05:02:54  <mdedetrich>it screws up the form
05:02:55  <coderarity>I thought you said you wanted to report bugs using webops, and I was like "lol"
05:03:03  <mdedetrich>no, a bug IN webops
05:03:25  <coderarity>mdedetrich: alright, i'll check it out and file it, thanks
05:03:34  <coderarity>mdedetrich: got an example environment variable to use?
05:03:37  <mdedetrich>like I have a cdn url that is massive
05:03:53  <coderarity>what's the key?
05:03:56  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: well something that is insanely long
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05:04:04  <mdedetrich>like cdn for my app blublocks-beta
05:04:08  <mdedetrich>username is 3dot
05:04:15  <coderarity>alright, i'll check it out
05:04:15  <coderarity>thanks
05:04:36  <mdedetrich>nps
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05:11:41  <coderarity>mdedetrich: confirmed :D
05:15:52  <st_luke>defunctzombie: people are complaining on the twitters about not being able to use chat on is jeopardy on today, looks like balabolka is broken
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05:17:22  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: most common bug in web interface is dealing with ridiculously long and zany strings!
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06:12:47  <wookiehangover>blerg getting 500s trying to log in or deploy anything
06:13:09  <coderarity>can you paste the output to a gist? http://gist.github.com
06:13:27  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: https://gist.github.com/0e833bbf71c3ba44bfb1
06:13:33  <mdedetrich>im getting 500's
06:13:34  <mdedetrich>as well
06:13:42  <mdedetrich>I think nodejitsu is spazzing itself again
06:14:24  <coderarity>hmmm
06:15:37  <wookiehangover>https://gist.github.com/75042143645ceef5cbac
06:16:00  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: yeah I can't even start my app now
06:16:46  <coderarity>okay
06:16:52  <wookiehangover>and my left arm is tingling... a little short of breath too
06:18:00  <mdedetrich>wookiehangover: don't get too excited, chewbacca
06:18:13  <coderarity>yeah, it's down
06:18:33  <wookiehangover>hit it with the broom?
06:18:54  <mdedetrich>those god damn witches
06:18:59  <mdedetrich>leaving their brooms everywhere
06:21:02  <mdedetrich>wookiehangover: your not a witch, are you?
06:21:22  <wookiehangover>I'm not a witch, I'm your wife
06:21:31  <wookiehangover>#princessbride
06:21:36  <mdedetrich>oh crap
06:21:37  <mdedetrich>not this agian
06:21:43  <coderarity>okay guys, I'm gonna have to see if I can get someone's attention, I'm working on finding someone though
06:22:38  <wookiehangover>coderarity: thank for halping
06:22:46  <wookiehangover>but in general, boo-urns
06:22:56  <coderarity>it's beyond my power to fix it D:
06:23:12  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: can't you wave your thing around harder?
06:23:21  <coderarity>no
06:23:23  <coderarity>what?
06:23:24  <coderarity>lol
06:24:28  <mdedetrich>hey, it sometimes works for me
06:24:33  <mdedetrich>although in different situations
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06:26:50  <jesseTaylor>https://gist.github.com/4159395
06:27:33  <mdedetrich>jesseTaylor: yeah we are all getting it
06:27:36  <mdedetrich>the errors are spazzing
06:27:51  <coderarity>jesseTaylor: currently working on it, thanks for letting us know
06:27:53  <mdedetrich>I mean the servers are spazzng
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06:30:29  <wookiehangover>coderarity: seems like its back up
06:30:38  <coderarity>indeed
06:30:52  <coderarity>i am testing right now, but my internet is slow
06:30:53  <coderarity>thanks for verifying :D
06:31:04  <coderarity>mdedetrich: try again ^
06:31:18  <mdedetrich>coderarity: start or deploy?
06:31:27  <coderarity>whatever you were doing before
06:31:34  <coderarity>probably should deploy
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06:32:51  <defunctzombie>balabolka.jitsu.com is down :(
06:33:39  <coderarity>defunctzombie: try again, just to be sure
06:33:42  <defunctzombie>er, nodejitsu.com or jitsu.com
06:33:50  <defunctzombie>coderarity: I did, it is down
06:33:51  <coderarity>doesn't matter
06:34:02  <coderarity>okay
06:34:29  <defunctzombie>I haven't deployed it in ages, so nothing has changed recently
06:34:34  <mdedetrich>wait, are actual websites going down?
06:34:34  <coderarity>it's your app? check `jitsu logs` and fix what's there, then deploy again; or you can just `jitsu start` it, but that might not fix the real problem
06:34:41  <coderarity>mdedetrich: no, they shouldn't
06:34:49  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: mine just worked
06:35:13  <defunctzombie>coderarity: yes, it is my app, what would I fix if I haven't changed anything for months and months?
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06:35:28  <coderarity>defunctzombie: idk, should be in `jitsu logs` if anything?
06:35:37  <coderarity>defunctzombie: if you're sure there's nothing wrong, just `jitsu start` it
06:35:47  <defunctzombie>it is running
06:35:52  <defunctzombie>at least the website tells me it is
06:36:20  <defunctzombie>"You don't have any application logs yet"
06:36:23  <coderarity>defunctzombie: it's on 0.6 or higher, right?
06:36:31  <defunctzombie>no idea :p
06:36:38  <defunctzombie>deployed this ages ago
06:36:53  <coderarity>we don't support < 0.6
06:37:04  <defunctzombie>it is def >= 0.6.x
06:37:07  <coderarity>oh, cool
06:37:10  <defunctzombie>might even be 0.8
06:37:20  <coderarity>should be fine then
06:37:37  <coderarity>defunctzombie: it's still running?
06:37:41  <defunctzombie>well, yes, I agree it *should* be fine
06:37:55  <defunctzombie>apparently it is now stopped
06:38:00  <defunctzombie>although I didn't stop it myself
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06:38:12  <coderarity>defunctzombie: username/appname?
06:38:24  <defunctzombie>shtylman/balabolka
06:38:34  <defunctzombie>I just tried jitsu start and it says internal server error
06:38:59  <coderarity>defunctzombie: jitsu does? paste the logs to gist.github.com
06:39:41  <defunctzombie>https://gist.github.com/4159449
06:39:55  <defunctzombie>I see it says no active subscriptions
06:40:01  <defunctzombie>below the internal server error
06:40:20  <defunctzombie>I am guessing that is the issue? still would be nice to have a cleaner error display
06:40:24  <defunctzombie>versus the massive stackdump
06:40:47  <coderarity>defunctzombie: ohhh, you know what, maybe your app was stopped since you've got more apps than your plan allows?
06:41:05  <defunctzombie>coderarity: it was the only app running
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06:41:19  <defunctzombie>I haven't made any changes recently
06:41:41  <coderarity>it's your user doc being in a weird state, i think
06:41:52  <defunctzombie>I see
06:42:01  <defunctzombie>cause it says I am using 0 out of 1 assigned drones
06:42:19  <defunctzombie>and the start button is now grayed out
06:42:54  <defunctzombie>I guess I need a plan now
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06:43:08  <defunctzombie>probably was carried over from the free period
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06:44:06  <defunctzombie>coderarity: do you guys store the credit card information? or do you use stripe or such?
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06:44:17  <coderarity>we use charged
06:44:27  <defunctzombie>and do not store the info yourselves?
06:44:28  <coderarity>i mean
06:44:28  <coderarity>chargify
06:44:36  <coderarity>not in our database, no
06:44:55  <defunctzombie>ok.. I am very weary of handing out credit card info ;)
06:45:01  <ds1>@coderarity, is there any plan to address the 500 error when starting an app. It seems like a hit or miss (nothing on my end) that it 500's
06:45:01  <coderarity>defunctzombie: yeah, it's been over a month
06:45:10  <coderarity>ds1: 500 error?
06:45:14  <ds1>yea
06:45:26  <ds1>err, socket hangup
06:45:27  <coderarity>ds1: did you gist it? if not, http://gist.github.com
06:45:31  <coderarity>oh, okay
06:45:49  <ds1>I get it, and run jitsu log, and there's no logs present. Run another deploy and it works
06:45:53  <ds1>sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt
06:46:12  <coderarity>i think some of the drones are still using forever - how big is your package? `ls -l $(npm pack)`
06:46:28  <coderarity>ds1: also, username/appname?
06:48:08  <defunctzombie>coderarity: I just paid for a subscription
06:48:29  <defunctzombie>but can't seem to start the app still
06:48:46  <coderarity>defunctzombie: is it the same thing?
06:48:50  <ds1>it appears to have started correctly now
06:49:01  <defunctzombie>coderarity: nope, just hangs on jitsu start now
06:49:13  <defunctzombie>coderarity: nvm
06:49:17  <defunctzombie>seems to have finally started
06:49:26  <coderarity>alright
06:49:30  <ds1>-rw-r--r-- 1 ds staff 34343 27 Nov 22:49 app-0.0.1-28.tgz
06:50:19  <coderarity>ds1: can I have you username and appname? I can see why it's socket hang up-ing
06:50:25  <coderarity>that size should be more than fine
06:50:31  <coderarity>but we'll see
06:50:44  <ds1>can I private message you my app/username?
06:50:50  <coderarity>ds1: ye
06:50:51  <coderarity>s
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07:06:21  <mdedetrich>@coderarity: getting socket hangups again
07:06:39  <coderarity>mdedetrich: username/appname?
07:06:50  <mdedetrich>3dot/blublocks-beta
07:08:23  <coderarity>mdedetrich: it was an ENOMEM, but it was on a forever drone, so just try again
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07:45:22  <booyaa>crikey they're a module for everything (npm)
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08:22:54  <coderarity>booyaa: yep
08:23:11  <coderarity>booyaa: you could make a module that makes modules, i bet that hasn't been done before
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08:52:06  <booyaa>i could call it yodawg
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08:52:42  <booyaa>seriously i wanted to make a cli tool to convert currencies, npm install open-exchange-rates and money
08:52:45  <booyaa>BOOM!
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08:53:13  <booyaa>now i need something to do some smart parsing of arguments, is optimist still the preferred?
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08:54:17  <booyaa>would like to be able to do ./castlemaine.js 12.5 (defaults are USD to GBP) and get £7.81
08:55:17  <booyaa>but at the same time be able to do ./castlemaine.js 12.5 AED to get £12.5 in uAE dirhams
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08:55:55  <booyaa>to be honest i prolly just need to check what's been parsed to argv, i've no need for switches
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09:14:14  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: what the shit?
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09:14:41  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: I can't even add middleware to piston :(
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09:42:25  <sente>booyaa: the login problem isn't specific to whether or not i'm on a wifi or using my verizon
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09:43:40  <booyaa>sente: remind me again this is the nodejitsu signup page or the developer console (to track apps)?
09:45:47  <sente>nothing happens when I click the "Log in" link in the top right of https://webops.nodejitsu.com/
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09:47:14  <booyaa>sente: what browsers have you tried and are you behind a corp/uni proxy?
09:47:17  <booyaa>works for me btw
09:47:23  <sente>i am not behind a corp
09:47:33  <sente>it's using "Internet" on my old android 2
09:47:37  <sente>1 sec
09:48:19  <sente>"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.4; en-us; ADR6300 Build/GRJ22) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1"
09:48:45  <sente>it works if use Firefox
09:48:51  <sente>the javascript is nutty
09:49:00  <booyaa>on your android, but not chrome on andriod device?
09:49:09  <sente>Visual Event doesn't even pick register the events associated that link
09:49:15  <sente>my device is too old for chrome
09:49:31  <sente>everything i've said is in the context of my phone
09:49:39  <sente>(Firefox for the android)
09:50:19  <booyaa>i can't remember who works on the webops website i think it was guy called jduvf?
09:50:27  <sente>beats the heck out of me
09:50:33  <sente>I just know the link doesn't work
09:50:43  <booyaa>you were speaking to mmalecki about this?
09:50:51  <sente>I mentioned it briefly
09:51:05  <sente>i'm not sure if there's been a ticket made or not
09:51:50  <mmalecki>sente: I'll open tickets today - didn't get to it yesterday
09:51:58  <mmalecki>I think I actually opened one
09:52:15  <sente>okay
09:52:41  <sente>thanks
09:52:56  <booyaa>\o/
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12:42:45  <kwhinnery>Morning all - anyone awake yet?
12:43:01  <yawnt>yes :)
12:43:09  <yawnt>it's 1 PM here
12:43:14  <kwhinnery>ah, I see marshall_law_ hanging out as well
12:43:21  <kwhinnery>yawnt: mornin
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12:45:33  <kwhinnery>question of the morning is what is the best way to approach a background process with nodejitsu. Use case: I need to asynchronously check the status of a "job" in my database, to see if it has been filled. If not, I need to request that another person do it. Best way to approach a process like this? setInterval, forever?
12:47:52  <yawnt>kwhinnery: who does this job?
12:48:27  <kwhinnery>yawnt: a user in my system. I have a job that can be filled by one of 10 humans I have contact info for in my database
12:49:05  <kwhinnery>specifically, a substitute teaching job - a teacher calls in sick, and one of 10 subs needs to take the job
12:49:27  <kwhinnery>I need to call the first sub (twilio), and if they accept the job, great - if not, I need to call another
12:49:47  <kwhinnery>I need to periodically check to make sure *someone* has taken the job
12:50:20  <kwhinnery>so I need a cron task or some other regular background process which looks for open jobs
12:50:31  <yawnt>right off, i'd say setInterval
12:51:02  <kwhinnery>yawnt: would setInterval be fine to use with a drone? my node process will stay alive?
12:51:09  <yawnt>kwhinnery: yes
12:51:14  <yawnt>i know redis has pub/sub events planned for key expiration and that's something you could exploit but i'm
12:51:19  <yawnt>not sure they're available yet
12:51:37  <kwhinnery>I ask because with other PaaS my process dies if it's unused
12:51:47  <kwhinnery>for XXX minutes or something
12:52:45  <kwhinnery>yawnt: cool, if that will work that's certainly easy enough :)
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12:53:45  <yawnt>kwhinnery: nop, it'll keep running on nodejitsu
12:54:07  <yawnt>kwhinnery: see for example https://github.com/exfm/node-respirator
12:54:24  <kwhinnery>yawnt: oh neat
12:54:32  <yawnt>you could set a job key to expire in <x> seconds.. then use redis event to re-assign it
12:54:44  <yawnt>that still uses setInterval internally though
12:54:52  <yawnt>but the thing should change as soon as redis implements it
12:57:27  <kwhinnery>yawnt: that looks like a better approach
12:57:34  <kwhinnery>will explore that too
12:57:35  <kwhinnery>thanks!
12:57:42  <yawnt>anytime :)
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14:37:03  <lyaunzbe>Hey fellas, can I use imagemagick/graphicsmagick on a drone?
14:37:57  <lyaunzbe>not sure if its possible considering I have to install gm on the system itself
14:43:01  <anoemi>lyaunzbe: hey there!
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14:56:53  <lyaunzbe>@AvianFlu, do the drones have imagmagick/graphicsmagick? Would I be able to use something like node-gm?
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14:59:49  <konklone>Hi
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15:00:24  <konklone>are there uptime issues right now? my webops is down, and a site went down 30m ago for no reason (in fact, the logs seem to indicate it's up)
15:02:13  <anoemi>hey lyaunzbe, the answer to that is yes
15:02:31  <lyaunzbe>@anoemi: Thanks! Thats great to know
15:02:38  <anoemi>we have of those installed for people
15:02:55  <anoemi>lyaunzbe: sure :)
15:04:28  <anoemi>konklone: we'll need some more details. whats your app name?
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15:11:34  <konklone>app name is "web", username is "konklone"
15:11:50  <konklone>though possibly more distressing is that webops is down for me
15:11:54  <konklone>jitsu commands work
15:12:05  <konklone>but I get ECONNREFUSED from webops.nodejitsu.com
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15:14:12  <konklone>I have since run jitsu start to bring my "web" app back up
15:16:37  <anoemi>konklone: currently looking into it
15:19:58  <konklone>anoemi: thank you
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15:23:26  <anoemi>konklone: you got it. we're definitely seeing some issues, sit tight
15:28:22  <`3rdEden>konklone: do you still have that issue now?
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15:30:33  <konklone>nope - my webops is back now
15:32:40  <`3rdEden>konklone: Good, thanks for noticing the crash. I reverted one of my commits seem to have caused it, so my apologies for the service disruption.
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15:33:37  <konklone>`3rdEden - no problem, appreciate the quick fix.
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16:12:52  <marshall_law_>kwhinnery: how goes it?
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16:13:04  <kwhinnery>marshall_law_: not too bad
16:13:25  <kwhinnery>hacking some node
16:13:28  <marshall_law>nice
16:13:34  <marshall_law>js bliss?
16:13:46  <kwhinnery>going to be doing as much Twilio demoing in node as I can
16:13:48  <kwhinnery>indeed
16:14:22  <kwhinnery>haven't really used node/express/mongo in anger before, so picking up quite a bit
16:14:37  <kwhinnery>at least, not for a webapp
16:15:11  <marshall_law>oh fun
16:15:21  <marshall_law>yeah, that's a good combo to cut your teeth on
16:15:59  <marshall_law>kwhinnery: have you already started?
16:16:02  <marshall_law>(at twilio)
16:16:05  <kwhinnery>jitsu is turning out to be a nice PaaS for standing up these things quickly, probably going to be using it a lot. I will be asking indexzero for a cut of all revenue I generate :)
16:16:14  <marshall_law>hahaha
16:16:21  <kwhinnery>marshall_law: yeah, first day was monday
16:16:24  <marshall_law>nice
16:16:43  <anoemi>kwhinnery: nice :)
16:16:53  <anoemi>what's your role there?
16:16:56  <marshall_law>kwhinnery: I think I may've said so in like 3 places already, but congrats
16:17:16  <kwhinnery>thanks marshall_law
16:17:24  <kwhinnery>anoemi: dev evangelist
16:17:49  <kwhinnery>formerly that (and lots of other things) at Appcelerator
16:18:38  <anoemi>kwhinnery: congrats :)
16:18:55  <kwhinnery>thanks :)
16:18:57  <anoemi>i know rob, jon, and carter well
16:19:22  <anoemi>tell em ana from nodejitsu said hey :)
16:20:43  <kwhinnery>anoemi: will do - hopefully be seeing you around as well
16:21:03  <anoemi>kwhinnery: definitely. where are you based?
16:21:08  <kwhinnery>Minneapolis
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16:21:40  <anoemi>word. i'm sure you'll make it to a hackathon in NY at some point
16:22:12  <kwhinnery>no doubt - always fun to head out there.
16:23:27  <G________>I have a question about websockets and ports on nodejitsu deployments… is there a recommendation/requirement on port listening for websockets?
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16:24:00  <mmalecki>G________: you can only listen on one port which is bigger than 1024
16:24:09  <mmalecki>(for example, 8000)
16:24:45  <G________>cool, I'm using faye and listening on 8080 right now
16:25:13  <G________>locally, I have nginx set up to forward with the tcp module, when I deploy this should still work pretty seamlessly right?
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16:28:34  <mmalecki>yup
16:28:46  <jgable_>awesome thanks
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16:46:58  <kwhinnery>mmalecki: and or anoemi - just redeployed my app, now getting "An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}" after a few more deploys, still not working. Works fine locally, and was working on jitsu until 5 minutes ago. jistu logs show no crashes, and normal process startup logging. Thoughts? http://t4me.jit.su
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16:53:04  <kwhinnery>mmalecki: anoemi: I stopped and started the app from the web console, seems to be okay now
16:53:14  <AvianFlu>kwhinnery: loads for me
16:53:18  <kwhinnery>odd thing I noticed - it said my app was using 3 out of the 1 assigned drones
16:53:18  <anoemi>kwhinnery: first off are you using our web interface or 'jitsu deploy' in the command line?
16:53:25  <kwhinnery>anoemi: ^^
16:53:45  <kwhinnery>anoemi: it is working now after restarting from the web console. Previously, I was using jitsu deploy
16:53:57  <kwhinnery>which exited okay, with no errors
16:54:02  <AvianFlu>kwhinnery: what jitsu version
16:54:18  <kwhinnery>0.11.3
16:54:34  <AvianFlu>kwhinnery: did you upgrade your plan or are you just on the trial
16:54:46  <kwhinnery>just on the trial methinks
16:54:55  <kwhinnery>yes, I didn't upgrade yet
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16:57:53  <AvianFlu>kwhinnery: okay, I'm gonna look into this
16:57:58  <AvianFlu>let us know if anything else strange happens
16:58:25  <kwhinnery>AvianFlu: kk, will do - seems to be fine now, but the "3 drones running out of assigned 1" seemed strange in the console. thanks
16:59:22  <AvianFlu>kwhinnery: what's your username
16:59:32  <kwhinnery>AvianFlu: kwhinnery
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17:02:14  <kwhinnery>fwiw I am actively using it this AM, as I need to have it out on the public net to do some testing with the twilio API
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17:04:00  <mmalecki>kwhinnery: heya
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17:04:11  <mmalecki>kwhinnery: did you have any deploy fails before?
17:04:31  <kwhinnery>mmalecki: not that I noticed - jitsu reported okay and no errors every time I've deployed
17:04:56  <mmalecki>getting more interesting, but okay
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17:13:23  <kwhinnery>mmalecki: just got my first deploy error right now: https://gist.github.com/4162608
17:14:37  <kwhinnery>redeploying seemed to go fine...
17:17:30  <AvianFlu>kwhinnery: thanks, checking on that
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17:35:19  <trypwire>hey guys, my app keeps throwing this error: "An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}"
17:35:23  <trypwire>every time it ry to connect
17:35:34  <trypwire>i try*
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17:36:01  <AvianFlu>trypwire: what's your username and the name of the app
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17:36:34  <trypwire>AvianFlu: it's not under my username, it's under my partners, but the app name is wapm-service
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17:36:44  <trypwire>and i think his username is jsantell
17:36:55  <AvianFlu>okay
17:37:01  <AvianFlu>did you deploy it recently or did this just start happening
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17:37:27  <trypwire>it started happening to me some time after the last deploy
17:37:29  <trypwire>it was working fine for a bit
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17:40:51  <AvianFlu>trypwire: try it now
17:41:00  <AvianFlu>it crashed, I think, and something got out of sync
17:41:09  <st_luke>coworking places are kind of bullshit
17:41:11  <AvianFlu>there's a safeguard for that, I'm checking into why it didn't fire this time
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17:42:11  <trypwire>AvianFlu: it's a completely different app?
17:42:48  <AvianFlu>oh, is what you're seeing not yours?
17:42:50  <AvianFlu>just a second
17:43:25  <trypwire>unless he deployed recently that i don't know about lol
17:46:39  <AvianFlu>trypwire: now I think it's running properly
17:47:06  <trypwire>AvianFlu: ah, yep :) thank you. what was the problem? is it something that we should know to avoid?
17:47:45  <AvianFlu>I think you just hit a momentarily misconfigured server
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17:47:55  <AvianFlu>so when your app crashed, it didn't update the port properly
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17:49:53  <trypwire>ok
17:49:59  <trypwire>so that's not something that we can take precautions to avoid right?
17:50:17  <AvianFlu>not really on your end. what port do you listen on in the code?
17:51:14  <trypwire>80
17:51:45  <AvianFlu>okay, so, smartOS is randomizing that port on every crash or restart
17:51:50  <AvianFlu>since it's a privileged port
17:51:59  <AvianFlu>we'll balance your traffic over 80 regardless
17:52:07  <AvianFlu>so you should try something > 1024 and it'll stay consistent
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17:52:44  <trypwire>ok
17:52:58  <trypwire>awesome, thanks
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18:02:07  <defunctzombie>st_luke: balabolka is back
18:02:11  <defunctzombie>I paid for a drone :)
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18:12:27  <ebright>Hi
18:12:46  <ebright>Do you need a credit card for the free trial period?
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18:13:09  <hunterloftis>Our app won't start, but I can't get any logs for it within the last 30-40 minutes. It's all old stuff. Any tips?
18:15:20  <anoemi>hunterloftis: hey there
18:15:48  <hunterloftis>anoemi: hi
18:15:51  <anoemi>can i get your username and app name and we'll take a closer look?
18:16:00  <st_luke>defunctzombie: nice
18:16:02  <hunterloftis>nko3-team-canary for both
18:16:31  <st_luke>some people have taken to using isjeopardyontoday as their online anonymous discussion spot
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18:17:12  <anoemi>ebright: nope
18:17:15  <anoemi>:)
18:18:17  <defunctzombie>st_luke: amazing
18:18:49  <anoemi>ebright: but if you put in cc info within the first 7 days of refigistering
18:19:04  <anoemi>you get an extra month for free
18:19:29  <anoemi>defunctzombie: AW YEAH!
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18:22:18  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: you're nko3-team-canary right?
18:22:29  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: yep
18:22:52  <hunterloftis>Not getting logs since 12:40:05 EST (1:22:00 now)
18:22:58  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: okay, I was just cleaning up a couple of zombied instances of your app. it says "stopped" in the db at present
18:23:13  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: thanks, any way to prevent "zombied instances?"
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18:23:55  <AvianFlu>these individual drones didn't get stopped properly, it's an issue I'm working on figuring out right now
18:24:12  <AvianFlu>try a 'start' on it though, for now
18:24:38  <hunterloftis>Trying. Lots of 'start' hangups recently.
18:25:17  <AvianFlu>the local kind or the remote kind?
18:26:40  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: pm'd you a gist of the error
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18:26:55  <AvianFlu>it's crashing slow enough that it's not hitting the loop detection stuff, but fast enough that it's not working
18:27:20  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: thanks. Any reason why I can't see logs?
18:27:58  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: loggly had an outage yesterday, and they don't seem to have come back up for us yet
18:28:17  <AvianFlu>I'm going to look into it a little bit later today
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18:29:29  <dk01>Looks like dns.jit.su is not showing a list of balancers anymore
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18:31:17  <dk01>Anyone have an alternative location for the list?
18:32:04  <AvianFlu>dk01: run `host nodejitsu.com` in a shell
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18:32:17  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: thanks. We love the concept of nodejitsu, and when it works, it's awesome. But we've had so many issues getting things to stay up with it that we're planning to move to Amazon laster this week.
18:32:45  <hunterloftis>later*
18:36:39  <st_luke>amazon blooooows
18:37:47  <konklone>hunterloftis: I switched my logging to logentries last night, to stop depending on loggly, and it's been good so far
18:37:53  <konklone>https://logentries.com/
18:38:17  <ebright>anoemi - okay thx! That's good to know.
18:38:27  <hunterloftis>konklone: thanks - but it's not just luggly. all sorts of issues. redis, mongo providers. "bad servers" when we upgraded our account to have more drones. every day, something. our stuff on aws and linode never goes down.
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18:39:26  <dk01>AvianFlu, will do. I am on windows currently. I'll do that tonight when I get home.
18:39:32  <anoemi>ebright: you're welcome!
18:40:15  <konklone>hunterloftis: I've definitely had a bunch of server issues here, though I'm hopeful they'll improve. No redis or mongo issues, though - is there something nodejitsu-specific that's made them bad for you? Or you'd just rather run them yourself?
18:40:20  <AvianFlu>dk01: the command is gonna be different on windows, but just check the DNS for nodejitsu.com to get them
18:40:58  <dk01>gotcha
18:41:09  <dk01>If I remember right it is nslookup or something
18:41:16  <dk01>I'll just use an online tool
18:41:21  <dk01>Thank you!
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18:42:17  <hunterloftis>konklone: since it all has to be 'in the cloud' we don't have the level of access we'd like to dbs... but yeah, nodejitsu specific - lots of 'partnership problems.' For example, our redistogo db no longer works and is no longer supported, even though we made it a couple weeks ago for nko.
18:42:28  <hunterloftis>(via the webops tool on jitsu)
18:43:02  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: I'm sorry to see you go, but if you can handle a VPS yourseves, it's often a logical choice to do so
18:43:24  <hunterloftis>konklone: of course another downside is the latency you get accessing redis across the Internet (instead of locally) since redis is frequently used for sessions, socket pubsub, etc.
18:43:35  <AvianFlu>we'll be improving all of this stuff in the immediate future - the logs, the multi-drone deploy stability - but that doesn't help someone who's in a hurry
18:43:42  <AvianFlu>we're a small team, only so much goes out at a time :)
18:43:48  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: we've been trying the last week to figure out a way to stay on nodejitsu but our app has been down for like 90% of that time :(
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18:44:27  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: because when a deploy does work, it's so awesome! And there's a lot of potential here, I love the vision.
18:44:47  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: you should check us out again in a few weeks if that's the case :)
18:47:20  <kwhinnery>AvianFlu: got another fun one now - I'm not able to view new logs for my app - is there any way I can flush them?
18:50:08  <hunterloftis>kwhinnery: I'm not able to either. Apparently it's a loggly problem. konklone suggested using a separate services like logentries.com
18:51:04  <kwhinnery>hunterloftis: ack - ty
18:51:16  <hunterloftis>kwhinnery: yeah :( np
18:51:52  <konklone>if it's any help, the code to integrate with logentries was easy
18:51:54  <konklone>https://github.com/isitchristmas/sockets/commit/86948570293f66fded9fd58c9ab9a30d47e095f5#L0R130
18:52:16  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: since you guys aren't supporting redistogo anymore, I just changed to iriscouch, and immediately get "ERR operation not permitted" ... any chance there might be docs about iriscouch's redis service somewhere? google's got nothing.
18:52:18  <konklone>I have my logentries token in a config file, and whether or not I have it turned on for that env (dev or production) determines whether it uses console.log or logs it to logentries
18:52:57  <konklone>hunterloftis: hate to suggest something so basic, but is it auth-ing correctly with the new host?
18:53:14  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: https://github.com/iriscouch/iris-redis is the setup and docs - but we'll poke at it also
18:53:25  <hunterloftis>konklone: seems to be, I'll try manually with redis-cli
18:54:37  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: which command gave that error?
18:56:10  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/4163254
18:57:05  <AvianFlu>that's weird
18:57:15  <AvianFlu>what jitsu version? I just created a new one myself and it worked with redis-cli
18:57:31  <st_luke>should I go to paris tomorrow? flights are kind of expensive
18:57:33  <st_luke>seems like a bad idea
18:58:21  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: pushover makes assumptions that make it not work with express, but I can probably hack in middleware support
18:58:23  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: I'm not even sure exactly what those commands are doing; that's just the 'node-redis' module connecting and running auth.
18:58:27  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: mhm
18:58:33  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: have disabled everything in the app after that.
18:58:33  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: I think it has a race condition
18:58:37  <jesusabdullah>oh?
18:58:40  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: it works on localhsot
18:58:42  <nathan7>*localhost
18:58:46  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: it doesn't work on a remote host
18:58:53  <jesusabdullah>very interesting
18:58:54  <konklone>hunterloftis: does it work with redis-cli?
18:59:02  <hunterloftis>konklone: yep I can auth fine with cli
18:59:12  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: let's see if I can push to localhost on the remote host
18:59:17  <jesusabdullah>a'ight
18:59:32  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: yep, that works
19:00:12  <jesusabdullah>weird :(
19:00:23  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: http://sprunge.us/RNdM
19:01:04  <DTrejo>flagrant
19:01:04  <DTrejo>nice
19:01:05  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: interesting, looks like a bug in pushover
19:01:13  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: mhm
19:01:40  <jesusabdullah>man I need coffee
19:01:42  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: jitsu --version # 0.11.3
19:01:49  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: no, you need JS q=
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19:02:50  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: yeah, that's current.
19:03:40  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: any docs for iriscouch redis? Like, what operations would work fine on a local redis server but error out remotely?
19:04:34  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: oh wait, looking at the iris-redis module you linked me to. So, we have to replace all our node-redis module requires with iris-redis to work with the different service?
19:04:42  <AvianFlu>no, probably not
19:04:47  <AvianFlu>clients should just work
19:05:36  <nathan7>There was something with colons
19:05:44  <AvianFlu>yeah, I was just thinking of that
19:06:04  <AvianFlu>does the pw have a colon in it? we're going to have to get you a way to change the pw if that's what's causing it
19:07:07  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: no colon in the pw
19:07:19  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: just making a simple connect program to test, maybe there's something more complex going on with our app causing problems
19:07:25  <AvianFlu>maybe
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19:09:23  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: so in my test program, require('redis') fails (not permitted op), require('iris-redis') works.
19:09:52  <AvianFlu>that's strange
19:09:55  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: any progress?
19:09:59  <hunterloftis>I'll gist it.
19:10:04  <AvianFlu>I don't think that's intentional behavior
19:10:08  <jesusabdullah>working on the whole caffeine thing right now
19:10:15  <AvianFlu>we're probably both missing something here, or it's a bug, I'd be willing to bet
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19:14:30  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: https://github.com/iriscouch/iris-redis/issues/2
19:14:35  <konklone>hunterloftis: that is very strange. I do have working code using the normal node-redis lib that connects and auths to iriscouch
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19:14:56  <hunterloftis>konklone: which version of node-redis are you using?
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19:16:06  <konklone>hunterloftis: 0.8.2
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19:16:38  <konklone>here's what my code looks like: https://github.com/isitchristmas/sockets/blob/95f2bdb9388e30b0b66694408977c0def609ddc5/app.js#L57
19:16:38  <hunterloftis>konklone: AvianFlu: shit, nevermind, I got it working. There was a colon in the auth string, I only copied the 'password' part of it, but it actually requires username:password ... or something
19:16:48  <konklone>bing
19:16:54  <AvianFlu>oh, there you go
19:17:46  <hunterloftis>I got confused because redistogo only requires a string ('askdfjlsjflksjf') whereas it looks like iriscouch requires something like ('nodejitsudb4187025225.redis.irstack.com:sldkfjslfjlsdjfldsjf')
19:18:00  <hunterloftis>Thanks for helping me debug guys
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19:19:39  <dk01>Anyone know if logentries work with browserify?
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19:23:53  <konklone>huh, good question
19:23:55  <konklone>does winston?
19:24:01  <konklone>logentries can work as a winston transport
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19:29:39  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: think you could gist me the recent errors for nko3-team-canary? Trying to figure out why the damn thing won't start. With same config, it's running locally :/
19:30:46  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: I was trying to set up my server to run piston as git server
19:30:51  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: I hacked shitty auth stuff in
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19:34:35  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: word
19:34:53  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: Any idea what's triggering this stuff?
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19:37:08  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: pretty frustrating and I don't really want to run gitosis or whatever is the new hip thing for this
19:38:01  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: https://github.com/substack/pushover/blob/master/lib/service.js#L33-L36
19:38:21  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: it looks like a standard "collect all the data" thing
19:38:34  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: Yeah,
19:38:40  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: there's the buffered = undefined there
19:38:55  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: https://github.com/substack/pushover/blob/master/lib/service.js#L84 Yeah
19:39:00  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: I wonder how that's being reached
19:39:37  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: looks like a race condition to me, like you said, something about it getting a data event after the accept event
19:39:42  <jesusabdullah>which theoretically shouldn't happen
19:39:45  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: mhm
19:40:00  <jesusabdullah>yeah, I think we need to make an issue on pushover
19:40:50  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: where are your data events coming from exactly?
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19:43:13  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: the req object I hope
19:43:38  <jesusabdullah>ah, no, he's using an http duplex stream
19:43:50  <jesusabdullah>that shims req and res into a single duplex r/w stream
19:43:52  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: mhm
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19:45:51  <jesusabdullah>oh, nathan7, for sanity's sake, what version of node is running on your test machine?
19:46:25  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: 0.8.15
19:46:42  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: freshly compiled from source like yesterday
19:46:58  <jesusabdullah>I see
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19:47:22  <jesusabdullah>also what's your github username again? I wanna ping you on this guy
19:47:34  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: nathan7
19:47:48  <jesusabdullah>oh a'ight
19:47:50  <jesusabdullah>I was thinking twitter
19:47:58  <nathan7>It used to be frozenfire on github too
19:48:05  <nathan7>I changed it and broke all my remotes and all my link
19:48:06  <nathan7>s
19:48:42  <jesusabdullah>haha, nice
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19:50:00  <nathan7>If I'd have delayed it, it would be worse
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19:54:28  <jesusabdullah>yeah for sure
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19:54:37  <jesusabdullah>oh wow, I haven't heard this song in YEARS
19:55:45  <jesusabdullah>blast from the past right there
19:56:21  <yawnt>oh yeah that song!
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20:01:43  <jesusabdullah>yawnt: inorite
20:01:55  <yawnt>jesusabdullah: which song
20:01:56  <yawnt>lol
20:01:56  <jesusabdullah>yawnt: it's from an album by an old Alaskan "youth band"
20:02:01  <yawnt>link
20:02:01  <yawnt>nao
20:02:10  <jesusabdullah>I don't think there is one tbhirlimo
20:02:49  <jesusabdullah>yawnt: http://www.myspace.com/theriotak a few of their songs are here
20:02:56  <jesusabdullah>yawnt: they disbanded when they all went to college
20:03:39  <yawnt>oh
20:03:40  <yawnt>piano
20:03:44  <yawnt>i love pianos
20:04:09  <jesusabdullah>yeah, their keys dude was really really good
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20:04:22  <yawnt>which makes me remember
20:04:38  <dshaw_>Down for you too? http://dshaw.com/
20:04:52  <yawnt>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIbylO24gE
20:04:56  <yawnt>jesusabdullah: ^
20:05:14  <yawnt>dshaw_: getting econnrefused
20:05:27  <dshaw_>redeploy?
20:05:48  <yawnt>yes, please
20:05:54  <dshaw_>okk
20:07:02  <jesusabdullah>speaking of pianos, this is what passes for comedy in Spenard, AK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQJU-X4w_w
20:07:24  <dscape>dshaw_: y u using nodejitsu? :)
20:07:46  <`3rdEden>dshaw_: remove the throw new Error(); from line 1 ;)
20:07:59  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: the setTimeout hack seems to work
20:10:08  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: replacing the nexttick you mean?
20:10:26  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: mhm
20:10:55  <dshaw_>OK, had to increment my package.json and what not.
20:10:58  <dshaw_>Back online.
20:11:05  <blakmatrix>dshaw_: your site is back up
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20:11:32  <dshaw_>If I start paying does that mean I don't have to do that any more? :)
20:11:35  <blakmatrix>i fixed it, I guess yo uredeployed after tho
20:11:47  <dshaw_>ah
20:11:52  <dshaw_>thanks
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20:12:18  <dshaw_>thanks guys
20:12:21  <dshaw_>laters
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20:25:26  <hunterloftis>Is there any way to access logs without changing all of our logging mechanisms over to some other service?
20:25:35  <hunterloftis>Since the nodejitsu log system seems broken?
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20:36:26  <hunterloftis>I'd at least love to see deployment logs or something. Can't debug, since our stuff is working fine locally, even pointing to the remote dbs.
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21:01:47  <Dennis_>My application "TrivialMobile" has been running fine for almost a day, and then suddenly lost ability to write to local disk: Error: ENOENT, open '/opt/haibu/apps/dkashkin/TrivialMobile/package/tmp/FWePmBQtHTg3T.png' This issue was reproducing consistently whenever my code was calling fs.writeFile. I tried restarting the application and redeployed it twice, and the problem is still here. Obviously, this code still works fine on
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21:05:51  <Dennis_>Is anybody from Nodejitsu online today? My app is basically down and I need some help. It feels like you made some change around file system write access this morning and my app is no longer able to create files :(
21:05:59  <nathan7>You got cut off at 'Obviously, this code still works fine on'
21:10:00  <Dennis_>Oops! Sorry. I wanted to say that this code worked on Nodejitsu for a month, and still works on my local box. But it stopped working on Nodejitsu this morning. So, I am down and need help...
21:10:19  <nathan7>Did you go over your 2G of per-drone storage?
21:11:20  <AvianFlu>the filesystem wouldn't persist between deploys
21:11:24  <CoverSlide>"The Drones need you ... they look up to you ..."
21:11:30  <AvianFlu>Dennis_: what's your username
21:11:54  <nathan7>ah
21:12:06  <blakmatrix>Dennis_: coudld I also see a gist of your package.json
21:13:01  <Dennis_>username = dkashkin, app name=TrivialMobile, gist=https://gist.github.com/bf6ea890a24dd9b72bbf
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21:14:12  <Dennis_>My app does not create a lot of files, and they are mostly temporary files that get automatically cleaned up. Also, I assume that whenever I do a new Deploy command, I get new drones with clean local folders, so 2GB should not be an issue.
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21:18:44  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/NicolasRTT/hippocamp-api/issues/1
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21:19:15  <nathan7>heh
21:19:51  <AvianFlu>Dennis_: is this happening currently? I don't see it happening in any of the logs
21:20:53  <Dennis_>Yes - I just tested again and got ENOENT, open '/opt/haibu/apps/dkashkin/TrivialMobile/package/tmp/XHCiyzF7s6Vus.png
21:21:03  <blakmatrix>Dennis_: for some reason that tmp directory doesnt exist... are you using mkdirp to create it?
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21:22:11  <Dennis_>No - this directory exists on my local machine, and I never had to explicitely create it on my drones. I was assuming that jitsu deploy automatically copies all folders inside my applicatoin from local to Nodejitsu?
21:22:41  <AvianFlu>it does `npm pack` basically
21:22:45  <AvianFlu>which ignores empty dirs
21:22:53  <blakmatrix>Dennis_: do you ignore that folder in a .gitignore file?
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21:22:54  <AvianFlu>maybe you cleaned it out? added a .gitignore?
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21:23:28  <nathan7>Dennis_: just do touch tmp/.keep or something
21:23:33  <nathan7>Dennis_: to ensure it's copied over
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21:29:09  <Dennis_>Yep! This solved it. Thanks! I did not know that empty folders don't get copied.
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21:29:43  <kaareal>Hey there just to confirm you are not planning on fixing logging, and you expects devs to write their own solution ?
21:30:10  <hunterloftis>Hey guys, just closed our nodejitsu account - we'd paid for the month, but everything was shut off / deleted immediately. The drones weren't working anyway, so that's fine, but I'd love to be able to get into the mongo database to get a backup.
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21:31:17  <AvianFlu>kaareal: we're rolling out our own internal logging service
21:31:56  <kaareal>ahh cool, got any eta on it ?
21:32:19  <AvianFlu>sometime next week if all goes well
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21:32:44  <kaareal>@AvianFlu sweet thanks
21:33:00  <AvianFlu>hunterloftis: does the connection string for the mongo still work? if not, you may have just deleted everything.
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21:33:19  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: dunno, the connection string was just on the server environment :/
21:33:30  <hunterloftis>AvianFlu: have been trying to find a place where it would be recorded locally, but it was set up via `jitsu`
21:33:47  <konklone>how did you tell your app code to use the connection string...?
21:33:53  <AvianFlu>the connection string would still be somewhere, unless it was just in your env
21:33:57  <hunterloftis>konklone: environment vars
21:34:01  <konklone>oh
21:34:13  <hunterloftis>konklone: locally there's one too, but it points to the local dev db
21:34:20  <konklone>gotcha
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21:34:47  <hunterloftis>Did not realize that canceling the upgraded account deleted everything immediately - should have backed up first.
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22:22:08  <cesconix>hi all
22:22:18  <cesconix>i've a problem with deploy for my folder structure
22:22:27  <cesconix>it is in coffescript
22:22:46  <cesconix>and start script is in app/index.coffee
22:23:14  <cesconix>therefore i write in package.json "app/index"
22:23:26  <cesconix>but deploy will fail
22:23:34  <cesconix>error: Error: package.json error: can't find starting script: ./app/index
22:24:20  <blakmatrix>if your executing coffee you need to specify that in your package.json
22:24:31  <blakmatrix>did you send in a support e-mail about this
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22:25:17  <cesconix>yep but also if i write "coffee app/index" or "coffee ./app/index" or "coffee app/index.coffee"
22:25:21  <cesconix>it is the same
22:25:28  <cesconix>deploy will fail :(
22:26:44  <blakmatrix>what is your username/appname
22:26:53  <cesconix>cesconix/pladdy
22:27:29  <blakmatrix>let me take a look at this for a few min see if i cant help figure whats going on
22:27:37  <cesconix>thanks!
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22:45:09  <blakmatrix>cesconix: us "start": "coffee app/index.coffee" ... however it wont deploy because of sprintf
22:45:59  <cesconix>why i cant use sprintf?
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22:47:38  <blakmatrix>cesconix: I am talking to devops atm about it
22:48:02  <cesconix>thanks blackmatrix
22:48:10  <blakmatrix>(it also doesnt work on my local machine if thats any consolation)
22:48:40  <cesconix>but on my local machine yes
22:49:00  <blakmatrix>did you do anything in particular to get access to that?
22:49:31  <cesconix>nop
22:52:54  <blakmatrix>cesconix: can you put sprintf in your package.json?
22:53:06  <cesconix>of course
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22:56:56  <cesconix>hey blakmatrix, it works!
22:57:21  <cesconix>thanks! :D
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23:40:01  <sberryma_>loggly having issues?
23:40:19  <deoxxa>always
23:41:11  <sberryma_>sure makes debugging difficult :)
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