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00:57:54  <NotMyself>hey guys i was wondering how do I set a timezone for my app?
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00:58:51  <blakmatrix>NotMyself: `jitsu env set TZ timezone`
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01:00:21  <NotMyself>blakmatrix: https://gist.github.com/4229834
01:00:56  <NotMyself>times are way off on the site http://olynode.org/
01:01:30  <NotMyself>that date should be 6:00PM on the 10th
01:02:50  <blakmatrix>how are you determingin the date?
01:03:49  <NotMyself>https://github.com/olynode/website/blob/master/lib/helpers.js
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01:08:44  <NotMyself>here is what the meetup api returns i am pretty prenting the "time" property https://gist.github.com/4229903
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01:12:02  <blakmatrix>NotMyself: are you using that offset?
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01:12:45  <NotMyself>nope previously i didnt need it setting the timezone was enough on heroku
01:14:22  <NotMyself>i could try it real quick
01:15:39  <blakmatrix>does changign the TZ change anything http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones I know it changes the time returned on logs for sure
01:16:41  <NotMyself>you mean change it away from what it is currently set to?
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01:17:38  <NotMyself>ok adding the offset in gives me the right time and date on the display
01:17:51  <NotMyself>kinda stinky though
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01:37:24  <mdedetrich>yo bitches
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01:54:53  <deoxxa>yawnt: http://i.imgur.com/Yp8Pb.jpg
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01:55:26  <mdedetrich>deoxxa: rofl
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02:06:24  <deoxxa>InspiredJW: cap ur collection bro
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02:28:15  <konklone>Hello
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02:28:57  <konklone>I had a drone restart for no discernible reason (no crash/trace in the logs) at about 2pm EST today
02:29:19  <konklone>it's 1 of 2 drones assigned to this app
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02:29:33  <konklone>since then, visitors have only been sent to the drone that was alive before
02:30:16  <konklone>the new drone is alive and well - it connected to Redis correctly and has been emitting a bunch of logs as it reconnects due to idle activity, as no users visit it
02:30:28  <konklone>I'm sure if I do a stop/start it will fix it
02:30:37  <konklone>but I don't know how to evaluate what I should do going forward
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02:32:16  <AvianFlu>konklone: I'll take a look, just a minute
02:32:48  <AvianFlu>which app was this?
02:33:17  <konklone>username: konklone, app: sockets-staging
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02:41:18  <AvianFlu>konklone: so, watch it for a little while now, see if the other one starts getting traffic
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02:47:37  <konklone>AvianFlu: okay
02:47:44  <konklone>AvianFlu: yes, it did
02:47:47  <konklone>it is getting traffic now
02:47:54  <konklone>what was the issue?
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02:49:35  <AvianFlu>it was on our end - what port do you have the app listen on, in your code/
02:49:36  <AvianFlu>?
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02:53:56  <konklone>80
02:54:19  <konklone>were you able to tell why the drone it replaced died?
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02:54:38  <konklone>I'm supposed to have crashe traces sent to logentries, and I've seen them show up before
02:54:41  <konklone>*crash
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03:18:44  <mdedetrich>@AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/0dc041f88bb84e9ad393
03:19:43  <mdedetrich>@AvianFlu: app name is blublocks
03:19:48  <mdedetrich>@AvianFlu: username is 3dot
03:21:09  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: looks like your next one succeeded?
03:22:10  <AvianFlu>the server that that one deploy hit was acting strangely, and I've removed it
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03:30:44  <joshSzep>I have until monday to put together a presentation to convince the CTO and the (non-technical) Founder that it is worthwhile to throw out the creaky hacked pile of frameworkless php running on an AWS instance. After a few days of research I think using nodejitsu as our provider makes the most sense for what our app design requires and for the technical team we have (3 person, none with any sysadmin experience at all). I'm
03:30:44  <joshSzep>wondering if anyone would be willing to help direct me along with this? :)
03:31:34  <AvianFlu>you're talking about also moving from php to node?
03:32:00  <joshSzep>Yes
03:32:05  <AvianFlu>okay
03:32:09  <AvianFlu>what kind of an app is it?
03:32:36  <AvianFlu>what kind of load do you expect?
03:34:47  <joshSzep>two sides, one side is sort of an arcade of casual games (using Cocos2Dx) and the other side is a sort of real time social network-lite/classroom environment. Its the second side I feel is a good fit. Our projections for break-even are around 600,000 users total although both me and the CTO think this is far too optimistic (we figure break even around 1.5mil is a saner projection).
03:35:17  <AvianFlu>what would the immediate user base be like
03:35:43  <joshSzep>teeny tiny
03:36:03  <AvianFlu>okay
03:36:12  <joshSzep>we aren't moving an existing site with users, this is an in development unlatched effort
03:36:16  <AvianFlu>I see no reason why we wouldn't be a good fit for you in that case
03:36:35  <AvianFlu>it would most likely make things a lot easier for you
03:36:35  <joshSzep>the CTO and me were brought on last month to try to correct the money sink that the previous devs were
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03:36:44  <AvianFlu>yeah that will sometimes happen
03:37:29  <joshSzep>Yeah, our dev team is 3 people and none of us have sys admin experience. the CTO has already wasted a week trying moving things from a physical box to an AWS instance
03:37:45  <AvianFlu>AWS can be a nightmare sometimes for sure
03:38:13  <joshSzep>Does nodejitsu use multiple joyent regions across a single app?
03:38:27  <AvianFlu>our business plans will
03:38:38  <AvianFlu>the individual plans available today all end up in joyent's us-east-1
03:39:04  <joshSzep>Are the business plans likely to be available by Q2 2013?
03:39:11  <AvianFlu>yes.
03:39:42  <AvianFlu>before Q1 2013, if I have my way.
03:39:49  <AvianFlu>i.e. quite soon.
03:40:04  <joshSzep>Good good.
03:40:05  <AvianFlu>but we tend to only release things after they work fairly well, so if we need to wait, we will.
03:40:18  <AvianFlu>but, soon.
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03:40:51  <joshSzep>compared to Heroku, how does a ninjutsu app add on additional services?
03:41:21  <Leeol>Question.. for a Jitsu app, what would ya'll recommend for cache setups? Eg: Memory up to X megs, disk up to X megs?
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03:42:17  <AvianFlu>joshSzep: we've got relationships with a few cloud DB providers, but we don't have the same kind of addon platform
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03:43:11  <joshSzep>ok, as I understand SaaS providers generally don't require any sysadmin to make use of them?
03:43:15  <AvianFlu>not really
03:43:28  <AvianFlu>you can make use of any 3rd party service you need, provided you can do it with node code
03:43:39  <AvianFlu>you don't get root access and we don't currently support other languages
03:44:36  <joshSzep>yes, so there are redis, s3, and dynamodb providers I believe
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03:45:56  <joshSzep>AvianFlu: do you happen to know of any whitepapers/presentations/whatevers of others doing cost-benefit of ninjutsu vs something-else or nodes vs something-else?
03:46:13  <AvianFlu>clock released a whitepaper on node in general today or yesterday
03:46:15  <AvianFlu>that's probably a good one
03:46:31  <joshSzep>Ah yeah I read that earlier, 10 Reasons to use Node or something along those lines
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03:46:34  <AvianFlu>yeah
03:46:40  <AvianFlu>none about us, I don't think
03:46:44  <AvianFlu>some blog posts probably
03:46:50  <joshSzep>yeah i'm searching for ones with hard numbers
03:47:00  <joshSzep>no worries, i'll google for it, just wondered if you had any offhand
03:47:06  <AvianFlu>yeah, nothing yet
03:47:14  <mdedetrich>@AvianFlu: yeah the next one succeeded
03:48:20  <joshSzep>I expect to sell to my CTO will require me to demonstrate superiority with implementation, and with the Founder superiority in cost/time. The second is a bit easier, but i'm not sure how much I can get done in a weekend hackathon (I have limited javascript experience, no node/async experience - video game engineer background)
03:48:33  <InspiredJW>probably better CPU and higher RAM on business plan too?
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03:48:41  <AvianFlu>InspiredJW: yeah, that's the idea
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03:49:16  <AvianFlu>joshSzep: it will depend on a lot of the specifics of the app, really
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03:49:27  <AvianFlu>focus on places where node would speed things up over the clunky php you mentioned
03:50:03  <InspiredJW>I'm worried on memory leaks on node.js but it happens also in PHP :p
03:50:08  <joshSzep>do you know of any services I can use to demonstrate a server under load?
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03:50:46  <joshSzep>it's hard to demonstrate speed issues because our user count is just the dev team currently, but i'm fairly certain this codebase will fall apart after a few hundred concurrent users
03:50:51  <AvianFlu>joshSzep: there are a few, but our sticky sessions tend to foil a few of them
03:51:03  <joshSzep>sticky sessions?
03:51:07  <AvianFlu>blitz.io, for example, the traffic comes from the same host, and so it will only hit one drone
03:51:17  <AvianFlu>yeah, if you run on multiple drones
03:51:19  <AvianFlu>we load balance
03:51:27  <AvianFlu>but you, the individual, will always be hitting the same server
03:52:01  <joshSzep>ah i see. So in the blitz.io example it would pummel one drone and leave the others untouched?
03:52:57  <AvianFlu>yeah
03:53:05  <AvianFlu>it was a confusing morning, the day I found that out
03:53:14  <AvianFlu>but then I was like "oh wait lol"
03:53:30  <AvianFlu>a user tested it on their app and said "wait shouldn't this be faster?"
03:53:35  <AvianFlu>and they were right!
03:53:48  <AvianFlu>but, I'm sure there are services to do that accurately
03:54:13  <AvianFlu>it's not something I've needed to research lately - we tend to get a fair bit of traffic to load-test with without having to fake it :D
03:57:16  <joshSzep>the coffee shop is closing so ill need to log out, but ill be back on in a few. Thanks for the support AvianFlu
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04:05:48  * AvianFlutopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Due to various circumstances, none of our support engineers will be available via IRC until 13:00 UTC. Some of us might still be around to help, but email [email protected] in the meantime, and we'll get back to you ASAP. Vaguely related: anyone want a support job? :D
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04:32:33  <joshSzep>I return... :)
04:33:16  <deoxxa>i call back
04:33:44  <joshSzep>AvianFlu: Any services which use multiple IPs you could recommend, or rather perhaps just showing maximum capacity on a single drone vs the single AWS php instance should be compelling I anticipate. What is the compute power of a drone?
04:34:07  <AvianFlu>right now, with only our individual plans available
04:34:20  <AvianFlu>each drone is part-time access to one physical core, with 256MB of ram
04:34:27  <AvianFlu>they're small SmartOS zones
04:34:46  <joshSzep>Does it support the smart OS vertical 'bursting'?
04:34:51  <AvianFlu>it does
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04:35:11  <joshSzep>Does that burst increase ram? I think just CPU, correct?
04:35:21  <AvianFlu>just cpu as I understand it
04:35:41  <joshSzep>The application logic is more or less non existent in this app, so I anticipate hitting ram limitations first.
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04:36:52  <joshSzep>but 256MB should support a fairly large number of req/sec which do minimal logic (some async db calls, return JSON in most cases) I think?
04:36:59  <AvianFlu>yes
04:37:19  <AvianFlu>our drones can handle 400+ concurrent websocket connections each, so regular HTTP should be quite a bit more
04:37:24  <AvianFlu>if there's little app overhead
04:38:23  <joshSzep>is there any IO limits I should be aware of?
04:39:16  <AvianFlu>not at present
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04:46:46  <joshSzep>AvianFlu: Do you have any cost breakdown vs equivalent EC2 instance running nodes charts or articles (for raw service cost, ignoring temporarily the cost benefit of PaaS vs IaaS and that I am on IRC getting good support from a dev for free ;))?
04:47:25  <AvianFlu>I don't, sadly
04:47:46  <deoxxa>i once saw AvianFlu lift a bear off a customer's server with only his hands and a flannel shirt to help
04:47:59  <joshSzep>mmm ok, well i'll be putting one together to the best of my ability so i'll be glad to share that when it's complete
04:48:14  <AvianFlu>deoxxa: stop dude, don't tell them our DC is in a bear preserve!
04:48:15  <joshSzep>my back of envelope says that ya'll are cheaper 
04:48:20  <AvianFlu>THEY COULDN'T BEAR IT
04:48:25  <AvianFlu>#seewhatIdidthere
04:48:28  <joshSzep>wait
04:48:30  <joshSzep>Bears?
04:48:33  <deoxxa>your pun rights have been revoked
04:48:36  <joshSzep>Ok this won't fly
04:48:48  <deoxxa>you're now limited to limericks and fart jokes
04:48:52  <joshSzep>Our software is not designed to withstand bear attacks
04:49:07  <deoxxa>joshSzep: it's ok the bears keep the trout away
04:49:15  <AvianFlu>joshSzep: don't worry, we've got bear-related failover
04:49:17  <AvianFlu>...bearover?
04:49:28  <deoxxa>it's an overbearing problem
04:49:54  <joshSzep>the theme of my presentation is now bears
04:50:10  <deoxxa>i approve this
04:50:52  <AvianFlu>likewise
04:53:16  <joshSzep>I'm unsure of if Flatiron, Express, or Railway is going to be my best bet to get going on this. I'm leaning toward express right now mostly due to it's community size. But if I understand correctly, Flatiron and Railway are built on top of Express?
04:53:32  <AvianFlu>flatiron isn't
04:53:35  <AvianFlu>I don't know about railway
04:54:46  <joshSzep>I'm pretty sure railway is, sort of a 'heavy' version of express mirroring RubyOnRails philosophy from what I've read
04:55:15  <joshSzep>Flatiron seems to use less auto generated scaffolding crap though
04:56:03  <joshSzep>Any papers/examples/etc of Flatiron used as the backend for a single-page-ish web app?
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05:06:46  <jaxon_>Is there a way to use subdomain.mydomain.com with nodejitsu via a CNAME? mydomain.com has to remain on anotyhnothrrerr server
05:07:06  <jaxon_>On another server
05:07:15  <deoxxa>> anotyhnothrrerr
05:07:16  <deoxxa>wow
05:07:25  <deoxxa>that's actually impressive
05:07:33  <jaxon_>Sorry typing on an android
05:07:37  <deoxxa>ha
05:07:41  <jaxon_>Hehe
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05:10:27  <konklone>can anyone from nodejitsu describe why redistogo integration is disconnected?
05:10:33  <konklone>and if the situation will change?
05:10:47  <konklone>I'm evaluating using them (or a competitor, if anyone has recommendations) for a paid plan
05:11:00  <konklone>but if Nodejitsu knows of some problem that redistogo isn't saying through other channels, I'd love to hear it
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05:12:56  <jaxon_>Anyone know when tghe
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05:13:09  <jaxon_>Arg fat fingers
05:13:33  <jaxon_>Anyone know when the business plans will be available? The website has said next month for a while now.
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05:14:54  <AvianFlu>jaxon_: later this month, is the plan
05:15:16  <jaxon_>(jaxon_) Is there a way to use subdomain.mydomain.com with nodejitsu via a CNAME? mydomain.com has to remain on another server
05:15:25  <AvianFlu>yeah
05:15:31  <AvianFlu>just point the cname to one of our load balancers
05:15:39  <AvianFlu>run `host nodejitsu.com` to get the list
05:15:51  <jaxon_>I did that
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05:16:07  <AvianFlu>also, add a domains field to your package.json
05:16:16  <AvianFlu>"domains": [ "whatever.yoursite.com"]
05:16:17  <jaxon_>http://beta.milkandcookies.com
05:16:33  <jaxon_>It only works from my house, m
05:16:38  <AvianFlu>and, of course, DNS takes time to propagate
05:16:42  <jaxon_>Nowhere else
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05:16:57  <jaxon_>I set it up yesterday
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05:17:08  <AvianFlu>it only works from your hose?
05:17:10  <AvianFlu>house?
05:17:12  <AvianFlu>where's it running?
05:17:17  <jaxon_>Yup weird
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05:18:00  <jaxon_>i pushed it with jitsu deploy
05:18:22  <AvianFlu>add the domains thing I mentioned and try it again
05:18:25  <jaxon_>mcookies.jit.su works fine
05:18:26  <AvianFlu>it should work
05:18:52  <jaxon_>I know right :-)
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05:20:03  <AvianFlu>let me see your package.json
05:20:12  <AvianFlu>someone else got this working properly, like, two days ago
05:20:39  <jaxon_>That would be awesome
05:20:55  <jaxon_>I love developing with jitsu
05:21:30  <joshSzep>jaxon_: what size is your dev team?
05:22:06  <jaxon_>Onev
05:22:15  <joshSzep>The best size :)
05:22:15  <jaxon_>One just me
05:22:23  <jaxon_>Totes
05:22:28  <joshSzep>Did you use node before ninjutsu?
05:22:36  <joshSzep>this autocorrect is annoying
05:22:38  <jaxon_>Nope
05:23:10  <jaxon_>Understood . i am on android
05:24:13  <joshSzep>what framework do you use? Is milkandcookies running on ninjitsu?
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05:25:17  <jaxon_>It will be i am rewriting it
05:25:40  <jaxon_>Miolkandcookies.com was written in Django
05:26:59  <jaxon_>Using express
05:28:34  <joshSzep>Happy with express? Did you try Flatiron? (I'm deciding between them)
05:30:18  <jaxon_>I tried several
05:31:05  <jaxon_>I ended up with Express because its well documented and well supported
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05:31:56  <joshSzep>could I see your ninjutsu app?
05:32:13  <jaxon_>I would have done Flatiron if it had more support/docs
05:34:11  <jaxon_>https://github.com/jaxon/mcookiesjs
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05:34:22  <jaxon_>Pretty early stages
05:35:32  <joshSzep>have a live site?
05:37:11  <jaxon_>mcookies.jit.su
05:37:25  <jaxon_>But logins dont work
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05:39:03  <jaxon_>They would work if i can get http://beta.milkandcookies.com to work
05:41:41  <joshSzep>ah cool, all the auth methods? That's pretty cool for 7 days
05:42:41  <jaxon_>Thanks
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05:43:11  <jaxon_>I started and deleted this project about 20 times
05:44:02  <joshSzep>haha
05:44:12  <joshSzep>why so?
05:44:19  <jaxon_>Trying out all the node framework s
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06:08:34  <jaxon_>@AvianFlu I also sent an email to [email protected]
06:10:57  <AvianFlu>thanks
06:13:44  <jaxon_>Very excited for the business accounts. I am on AWS now. But Nodejitsu backed by Joyent SmartOS is a way better solution for me.
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06:38:04  <joshSzep>Semi off topic, but curious, what sort of collaboration software does the Ninjitsu team use? We are working distributed as well, but I'm finding the communication lacking (email, Skype, and a wiki are the entirety)
06:44:53  <joshSzep>Is there a way to setup multi environments on ninjitsu? (for staging)?
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08:21:50  <tagmint>hello
08:22:13  <tagmint>is there any way to retrieve the snapshot content ? i mean, can i access the files in a snapshot ?
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08:24:30  <ljharb>tagmint: the "files"? you pushed to it from a git repo, you should have them all locally
08:24:55  <tagmint>yes, but
08:25:16  <tagmint>we made a mistake, and forgot to push some modifications to the repo, but deplyoed it here
08:25:27  <tagmint>so our modificantions only exists in a snaphot
08:26:19  <ljharb>so you pushed uncommitted changeS?
08:26:26  <ljharb>anything that's ever been committed should be in the git repo
08:26:39  <tagmint>yes
08:26:43  <tagmint>you are right
08:27:28  <tagmint>so the question stands, can i access the snapshots ?
08:28:08  <ljharb>lol that's a good question. i'm going to go with "probably not"
08:28:15  <ljharb>but i don't work here
08:28:49  <tagmint>ehh
08:29:06  <tagmint>thanks...
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08:41:05  <rio{>Does anyone have some example code on how to use Rackspace cloudfiles with pkgcloud?
08:41:07  <rio{>I get "[Error: Invalid URI "//?format=json"]" when trying to do getCointainers. Guess I need to set the API URI somewhere? :S
08:42:16  <tagmint>"[Error: Invalid URI "/?format=json"]"
08:42:20  <tagmint>maybe ?
08:42:34  <tagmint>use / instead of
08:42:41  <tagmint>use / instead of //
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08:44:28  <rio{>Thing is I don't provide the URI anywhere
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08:49:37  <rio{>but maybe I need to, doesn't say anywhere in the docs tho
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08:51:38  <robmozart>rio{: need to do what?
08:52:28  <rio{>I am having problems with pkgcloud and rackspace
08:52:58  <robmozart>aha, sorry i can’t help
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09:02:06  <Ari>Hi, is anyone on at the moment that can help me?
09:02:51  <booyaa>Ari: just ask here, someone will pick it up
09:02:54  <booyaa>Ari: what's the problem
09:03:23  <booyaa>i can't promise to solve the problem but at least i can ensure the relevant information for the support teams is collected
09:04:12  <Ari>I'm trying to connect to nodejitsu's mongodb database through mongoose; it appears to connect correctly (no errors thrown), but when I try to actually save to the database, I am getting a login error.
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09:05:21  <booyaa>does the application work locally i.e. before you jitsu deploy?
09:05:41  <Ari>yup; otherwise I'd be scouring the mongodb boards
09:05:41  <booyaa>also you're using the same mongo on both right?
09:05:58  <booyaa>k, can you gist the error output
09:06:31  <booyaa>also just so the team can see it (incase you want to sign off) can you please etll us your nodejitsu user name and the name of your app?
09:07:02  <Ari>Hmm... actually, that could be the issue.
09:07:09  <booyaa>orly? :)
09:07:34  <Ari>does my app need to be actively running from on the nodejitsu servers to connect to the database?
09:07:54  <Ari>because I'm still doing testing, and I assumed that I could connect to the db locally
09:08:08  <Ari>(assuming I use the correct login string)
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09:08:40  <booyaa>no you shouldn't need the app to be running before hand. and it would get restarted after a deploy
09:08:58  <Ari>Hmm ok, swing and a miss then
09:09:00  <booyaa>so jitsu deploy works, but you get mongodb auth errors when you try to save any changes?
09:09:36  <Ari>Well I haven't actually deployed the app yet, because I wanted to get the db working first
09:09:44  <Ari>I've deployed other apps successfully though
09:09:47  <Ari>no problems there
09:10:17  <booyaa>can i see if i've got this right then
09:10:41  <booyaa>running the app locally and saving to the mongo saas works
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09:10:56  <Ari>saas?
09:10:56  <booyaa>but you've not tried to deploy and run the app on nodejitsu yet?
09:11:02  <booyaa>software as a service
09:11:08  <Ari>ah ok, yes
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09:11:42  <Ari>nodejitsu db's aren't app specific though, right?
09:12:05  <booyaa>no i believe they just need credentials like mongohq
09:12:17  <booyaa>i could be wrong, but it would seem odd and also make local testing hard
09:12:24  <booyaa>-no
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09:13:24  <Ari>ok, I'm just going to gist it for now
09:13:38  <Ari>And I'll see if any answers turn up
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09:15:59  <booyaa>ari what's your user name and app?
09:16:41  <Ari>I haven't deployed it yet, remember?
09:17:16  <booyaa>there's some kinda mongo login/reference (not password) might be best to include that?
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09:17:51  <booyaa>re: user name - trying to avoid having your email divulged, the support team will avhe your contact details
09:19:03  <Ari>this is the title of it?
09:19:23  <booyaa>huh?
09:19:39  <Ari>what does your last message mean?
09:20:00  <booyaa>okay you've gist it the error / details how do you expect the support team to contact you?
09:20:05  <booyaa>you gonna hang around here?
09:20:26  <Ari>I'll be back tomorrow
09:20:36  <Ari>For now I'm gonna get some sleep
09:20:45  <booyaa>k night
09:20:46  <Ari>sometimes rest helps solve problems anyway (:
09:20:51  <booyaa>tends to
09:21:06  <Ari>Ok, thank you very much for the help
09:21:19  <Ari>Goodnight
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09:26:21  <tagmint>can i access the contents of the snapshots ?
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09:28:55  <booyaa>tagmint: you can download it, but i don't think you can browse the content
09:28:55  <booyaa>s
09:29:33  <robmozart>tagmint: i recall seeing tar.gz filenames for snapshots somewhere on the dashboard.
09:30:07  <robmozart>can’t find it now
09:30:13  <booyaa>speaknig of which is webops.nodejitsu.com working?
09:30:21  <booyaa>it seems to have stopped loading for me
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09:36:00  <robmozart>booyaa: works for me
09:36:08  <tagmint>hm
09:36:16  <tagmint>it would be nice to access the concent too
09:37:54  <`3rdEden>booyaa: what part isn't working for you?
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09:38:46  <robmozart>when i think about it the tar.gz files may have been in the cli
09:38:51  <booyaa>`3rdEden: wasn't loading noe sec had to reboot my pc
09:38:54  <booyaa>will retest
09:39:06  <booyaa>gah terms screwed brb
09:39:16  <`3rdEden>i'll check the logs to see if I see a disturbance
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09:39:33  <robmozart>yup, doing jitsu list shows tgz under running snapshot
09:40:00  <booyaa>`3rdEden: yeah that fixed it
09:40:20  <booyaa>don't see snapshots on webops so must only visible through jitsu
09:40:31  <booyaa>as robmozart sugested
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09:40:44  <robmozart>booyaa: yeah, i just found out myself, sorry about that
09:40:47  <`3rdEden>booyaa: there should be snapshots on webops as well
09:41:02  <`3rdEden>but you cannot download them from webops (yet)
09:41:32  <booyaa>`3rdEden: more for tagmint's benefit although i think he also wants to browse the contents ;)
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09:42:08  <booyaa>is the snap shot everything compiled modules etc? or just your script?
09:42:14  <robmozart>hey check this out: http://blog.nodejitsu.com/new-nodejitsu-features “We also introduced a new command in jitsu: jitsu snapshots fetch. This will download a tarball of your app to your current working directory.”
09:42:22  <`3rdEden>booyaa: tagmint: ah :p yeh, if you want to browse the contents, you should fetch them using jitsu and unzip it
09:42:32  <tagmint>great
09:42:34  <tagmint>thanks!
09:42:50  <booyaa>\o/
09:42:52  <`3rdEden>booyaa: it also contains the node_modules folder if I recall correctly
09:43:08  <`3rdEden>so it's basically a snapshot of how the app is ran on nodejitsu
09:43:17  <InspiredJW>anyone can help me with dull VMs left on my app?
09:43:30  <booyaa>presoo i'll have to play around with that
09:43:31  <InspiredJW>zombie VMs
09:43:56  <`3rdEden>mmalecki: ^
09:44:05  <`3rdEden>or dscape ^ :p
09:44:30  <booyaa>i reall should play around with my nodejitsu account more
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09:46:14  <`3rdEden>booyaa: but if have another issue with webops, feel free to give me a poke
09:46:35  <booyaa>`3rdEden: ah yeah not sure what happened ther
09:46:58  <booyaa>internet's flakey here at the mo, irc via ssh is shockingly laggy
09:48:30  <booyaa>`3rdEden: but thanks will remember for next time
09:48:32  <mmalecki>`3rdEden will do one in the office
09:48:42  <mmalecki>*once
09:48:55  <booyaa>mmalecki: o/
09:49:12  <mmalecki>heyo
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11:10:40  <fent>anyone here that can help me with union/director?
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11:23:02  <jetienne>evil evil you killed my multiplayer game :)
11:23:43  <mmalecki>fent: if I can, sure
11:24:54  <fent>I'm using director to parse data from the request, but when director gets called with the req/res, the data has already been buffered and discarded by union
11:25:36  <fent>And I only want to parse it on certain routes, that is why I'm putting the parser in the route's `before` option with director
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11:25:59  <mmalecki>hmm
11:26:15  <mmalecki>jetienne: if it was opensource you can run it for free :)
11:26:41  <jetienne>mmalecki: ah ? good it is all open source as all i do :)
11:27:00  <fent>well even if I didn't care what routes it was parsed in, I don't get why union buffers and then discards the data. it has an option `buffer` but it only prevents it form buffering before the middleware, not before the router
11:27:12  <mmalecki>yup, drop a list at [email protected] with list of apps and repos, we'll get you set up :)
11:27:26  <jetienne>mmalecki: excellent! will do. thanks :)
11:28:53  <mmalecki>fent: what's the content-type of data?
11:29:10  <mmalecki>might be related to https://github.com/flatiron/flatiron/issues/86
11:30:04  <fent>mmalecki: it is application/json
11:31:28  <fent>mmalecki: I don't think so. I added a listener to the data event, all of the data events fire before the router gets called.
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11:33:50  <fent>mmalecki: oh I see what the issue is. director expects union to buffer the data. but I had set buffer to false. setting it back to true fixed it.
11:34:23  <mmalecki>glad you fixed it :)
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11:37:31  <fent>mmalecki: thank you for the help :)
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11:43:07  <nerd_ema>hi all
11:43:24  <nerd_ema>someone know a irc room for php support?
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11:46:15  <nerd_ema>anyone?
11:46:29  <mmalecki>#php maybe?
11:46:35  <mmalecki>not sure, I don't like pain
11:46:46  <nerd_ema>not :S is close #php
11:47:07  <mmalecki>##php?
11:47:21  <nerd_ema>why two hash?
11:48:00  <mmalecki>that's freenode's rule, if you aren't the author you can't claim single hash
11:48:55  <nerd_ema>[12:48] == ##php Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
11:50:18  <mmalecki>go and get identified
11:50:24  <mmalecki>create an account and all that
11:51:13  <nerd_ema>how i can create an account?
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11:51:30  <mmalecki>http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
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12:34:41  <svnlto>dscape: ping
12:38:02  <svnlto>dscape: still having trouble https://gist.github.com/4233003
12:39:33  <dscape>svnlto: can you hop on skype?
12:39:56  <svnlto>in the evening
12:40:00  <svnlto>sure
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13:00:17  <dscape>svnlto: im nunojob there
13:00:21  <dscape>just ping me when you cna
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13:56:24  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here?
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14:00:16  <Fabryz>it's cold
14:01:11  <mmalecki>it's snowing
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14:02:03  <VinSpee>@mmalecki where is it snowing?!
14:02:47  <mmalecki>VinSpee: Berlin
14:02:52  <VinSpee>ah
14:03:00  <VinSpee>still waiting on it here in Detroit
14:04:33  <mmalecki>it'll come
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14:07:49  <jrodriguez>i need a nodejitsu ninja
14:07:51  <jrodriguez>i have a question
14:07:53  <jrodriguez>some one
14:08:04  <Sly>jrodriguez: hey there.
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14:08:11  <Sly>I saw your ticket already.
14:08:14  <Sly>Did you check your spam box?
14:08:22  <jrodriguez>yes nothing there
14:08:39  <jrodriguez>actually i bean checking from yesttarday
14:08:50  <jrodriguez>and sorry about my english is not my natural language
14:08:50  <mmalecki>jrodriguez: did you ever have a nodejitsu account before?
14:09:01  <mmalecki>I'm seeing sendgrid drops due to unsubscribed address
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14:10:18  <jrodriguez>well no
14:10:22  <jrodriguez>this is my first one
14:10:47  <jrodriguez>but if you want i can try to create a new one and change the email account
14:11:20  <mmalecki>nope, please don't
14:11:36  <mmalecki>August 15, 2011 - 12:13 PM
14:11:48  <mmalecki>this is when you unsubscribed from nodejitsu mailing
14:12:00  <mmalecki>I can delete unsubscription if you want me to
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14:16:17  <mmalecki>jrodriguez: you can try `jitsu users forget <username>` now, it should be sending emails again
14:16:20  <jrodriguez>no want i want is to test it
14:16:28  <jrodriguez>look i'm coldfusion developer
14:16:33  <jrodriguez>but mostly front end
14:16:37  <jrodriguez>i want to test node
14:16:46  <jrodriguez>they said you guys are the best
14:16:50  <jrodriguez>so pleaes help with this
14:16:55  <jrodriguez>my account user is
14:16:57  <jrodriguez>jrodriguez
14:17:27  <mmalecki>jrodriguez: you should've gotten an email just now
14:18:13  <jrodriguez>i have so i should click there and everthing is fix now
14:18:40  <mmalecki>yes
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14:34:46  <jrodriguez>jitsu users forgot jrodriguez d810bc47-34c1-4a22-94ce-16b1462bc692
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15:22:45  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here?
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15:24:01  <jrodriguez>hello need a nodejitsu ninja
15:24:10  <Sly>jrodriguez: what's up?
15:24:27  <jrodriguez>hello sly
15:24:28  <jrodriguez>look
15:24:34  <jrodriguez>i was just put some issue ticker
15:24:39  <jrodriguez>my account is not working
15:24:58  <jrodriguez>http://nodejitsu.zendesk.com/tickets/12128
15:25:02  <jrodriguez>that the issue number
15:25:07  <jrodriguez>now here the response
15:25:14  <jrodriguez>they said you guys fix the proboem
15:25:15  <jrodriguez>problem
15:25:22  <jrodriguez>i just need to log in to my account
15:25:47  <jrodriguez>so they send me a email to said
15:25:51  <jrodriguez>run this command
15:25:51  <jrodriguez>jitsu users forgot jrodriguez d810bc47-34c1-4a22-94ce-16b1462bc692
15:25:52  <Sly>No, I said in the response that we were talking to you on IRC.. so I was marking it as solved.
15:25:56  <jrodriguez>but wher i send this
15:26:04  <jrodriguez>i mean where i run this command
15:26:11  <Sly>You use that in the console, and you really shouldn't be posting your personal tokens.
15:26:22  <jrodriguez>sorry about it
15:26:24  <jrodriguez>but look
15:26:31  <jrodriguez>i want to log in on the web page
15:26:35  <jrodriguez>i cant
15:26:42  <jrodriguez>i havent download anything
15:26:50  <dscape>jrodriguez: do you have npm?
15:26:54  <jrodriguez>so there is nothing on my local computer to run that bash
15:27:00  <jrodriguez>yes
15:27:02  <dscape>are you on windows?
15:27:14  <dscape>jrodriguez:
15:27:15  <jrodriguez>mac
15:27:20  <jrodriguez>npm version is
15:27:21  <dscape>ok
15:27:23  <dscape>then do this
15:27:26  <jrodriguez>1.1.66
15:27:27  <dscape>press
15:27:31  <dscape>command + space
15:27:44  <dscape>then "terminal"
15:27:46  <dscape>and press enter
15:27:51  <dscape>in this terminal window
15:27:52  <dscape>do
15:27:59  <dscape>npm install -g jitsu
15:28:02  <dscape>when its over
15:28:12  <dscape>run the command you got
15:28:18  <dscape>and you should be able to change your password
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15:28:24  <jrodriguez>ok is installing right now
15:28:28  <dscape>jrodriguez: important, notify sly when you are done
15:28:34  <dscape>so he can change your token
15:29:48  <dscape>jrodriguez: if you dont feel very confortable with command line tools
15:29:50  <jrodriguez>wow is a lot
15:29:51  <jrodriguez>is done
15:29:57  <dscape>you might consider our continuous deployment solution
15:29:57  <jrodriguez>now is ok
15:29:59  <jrodriguez>no problem
15:30:00  <dscape>and webops.jit.su
15:30:04  <dscape>jrodriguez: :)
15:30:09  <dscape>enjoy
15:30:16  <jrodriguez>ok so is done the package is installed
15:30:24  <jrodriguez>so now what
15:30:28  <dscape>jrodriguez: jitsu users forgot jrodriguez d810bc47-34c1-4a22-94ce-16b1462bc692
15:30:38  <dscape>just like the email said
15:31:07  <jrodriguez>prompt: password:
15:31:12  <jrodriguez>should i put new password
15:31:16  <jrodriguez>or old password
15:31:49  <jrodriguez>i put a new one
15:31:54  <jrodriguez>so it said ok good
15:32:02  <jrodriguez>let me try to log in to the web page
15:32:29  <jrodriguez>wow working good
15:32:34  <dscape>jrodriguez: amazing
15:32:36  <dscape>good stuff
15:32:36  <dscape>:)
15:32:47  <jrodriguez>you guys really are ninjas
15:32:50  <jrodriguez>ok man thanks
15:33:06  <jrodriguez>going to try the nodejitsu platform now
15:33:10  <jrodriguez>see what happend
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15:34:18  <dscape>jrodriguez: good luck
15:34:20  <dscape>report back
15:34:54  <jrodriguez>ok cool
15:34:55  <jrodriguez>later
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15:44:31  <ArxPoetica>Hello fellow jitsuers.
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15:44:42  <Sly>Hey, ArxPoetica.
15:44:43  <ArxPoetica>Question about the deploy.
15:44:52  <Sly>What's up?
15:44:53  <ArxPoetica>Hey Sly
15:45:03  <ArxPoetica>Is the package.json file available on the drone?
15:45:19  <ArxPoetica>for example, could I do something like this:
15:45:21  <ArxPoetica>json = JSON.parse(fs.readFileSync('package.json', 'utf8'))
15:45:31  <Sly>Yes. The package.json file is used on the drone, because we initiate it with `npm start`.
15:45:36  <ArxPoetica>version = json.version
15:45:42  <ArxPoetica>sweet
15:45:47  <ArxPoetica>so I can parse info out of it
15:45:48  <Sly>Also..
15:45:51  <ArxPoetica>RADICAL :P
15:45:51  <Sly>When you're doing a readFileSync
15:45:54  <Sly>You have to .toString()
15:45:57  <Sly>iirc
15:46:00  <ArxPoetica>ah
15:46:01  <mmalecki>actually no :)
15:46:10  <mmalecki>JSON.parse can parse buffers
15:46:18  <Sly>Ah.
15:46:21  <Sly>Well, in that case.. you don't.
15:46:25  <ArxPoetica>ha I didn't even know that.
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15:47:38  <generalissimo>where can i make a feature request?
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15:48:05  <mmalecki>generalissimo: [email protected]
15:48:08  <Sly>generalissimo: it's best to make them on Github, where they won't be forgotten.
15:48:18  <mmalecki>well, it depends
15:48:22  <Sly>Or ^
15:48:23  <mmalecki>if project is open source or not
15:48:43  <generalissimo>ah
15:48:44  <ArxPoetica>btw Nodejitsu ROCKS
15:49:00  <mmalecki>ArxPoetica: <3
15:49:05  <ArxPoetica>ha
15:49:10  <generalissimo>well maybe you can tell me if this piece is open source or not
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15:49:26  <ArxPoetica>we're in debug mode right now so I might be hitting you kids up w/ some harder q's
15:49:37  <generalissimo>i want to be able to specify multiple environments to deploy to
15:49:37  <Sly>generalissimo: if it's something on Github.. make an issue about it. If not, send it to the [email protected] email and we'll make an issue in the appropriate place.
15:49:56  <ArxPoetica>also LOVE the new continuous deploy w/ github
15:50:10  <Sly>generalissimo: if you're wanting to specify environments, you can use the environment variables in Node.
15:50:30  <Sly>For instance.. if (process.env.NODE_ENV == 'production')
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15:50:55  <Sly>And you can set your environment variables from either webops.jit.su or `jitsu env set`
15:51:16  <generalissimo>that's not really what i'm talking about
15:51:36  <generalissimo>i want one version of the application (the public one) running as production
15:51:41  <generalissimo>and one running as staging
15:51:57  <generalissimo>and then ideally i'd like to continuously deploy one branch to staging and another to production
15:52:17  <generalissimo>that way i can set up a git workflow for testing / staging / deploy
15:52:25  <generalissimo>er, deploy to prod
15:53:11  <Sly>Not really a good idea to try to pack all of that into one drone. It'd be better to do process.env and then split it up amongst drones.
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15:54:30  <generalissimo>separate drones is what i want - is there already a way to do that within the package.json?
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15:55:31  <generalissimo>i mean i basically want 2 apps with the same code and to be able to tell package.json "use this one for prod, this one for staging"
15:56:05  <Sly>Like I said, you can set it up to take `process.env.NODE_ENV`.. then deploy it to separate drones, under separate app names and subdomain names.
15:56:06  <Sly>For instance.. "app", "app-staging", etc.
15:56:06  <Sly>Then set the appropriate environment variables for it.
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15:56:14  <Schr3da>Hey
15:56:24  <Schr3da>Someone here from the service team?
15:56:36  <Schr3da>Im unable to reset my password :(
15:56:51  <Sly>Then you can do.. if (process.env.NODE_ENV == 'production')
15:56:53  <Sly>And run `jitsu env set NODE_ENV production`
15:56:56  <Sly>Or whatever you want it to be.
15:57:19  <generalissimo>but that doesn't allow me to run an entirely different version of the code in prod?
15:57:22  <Sly>But it'll all be in one app, just on different drones.. and doing different things.
15:57:22  <Sly>Schr3da: what seems to be the problem?
15:58:15  <Sly>That's why you do if() blocks, to change the settings depending upon the environment.
15:58:40  <Sly>For example.. if (process.env.NODE_ENV == 'production') { this.options.secure = true; } else { this.options.secure = false; }
15:59:01  <Sly>Then if you do `jitsu env set NODE_ENV production`, it would use `this.options.secure = true;`
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15:59:08  <generalissimo>i already have a dynamic loader for different confs based on NODE_ENV
15:59:17  <nathan7>well then
15:59:29  <nathan7>deploy to two drones, one with NODE_ENV=production, one with NODE_ENV=staging or whatever
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15:59:44  <generalissimo>i guess i'm just asking about how i specify that i want to deploy this to myapp_staging vs myapp_prod
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15:59:59  <generalissimo>because i thought package.json defined that
16:00:08  <generalissimo>which means i'd have to be constantly changing package.json
16:00:15  <generalissimo>which screws with version control
16:02:11  <Sly>generalissimo: To add it to a separate drone, where you could set different environment variables..
16:02:11  <Sly>You would need to change the app name to something like "app-staging"..
16:02:11  <Sly>And you would need to change the subdomain as well.
16:02:12  <Sly>Because both will already be in use.
16:02:12  <Sly>Then you can deploy that one and use different environment variables.
16:02:13  <Sly>While still keeping the original running with its environment variables.
16:02:13  <Sly>Because if you run them on the same one, and just do a `setdrones`, they're all going to use the same environment.
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16:03:09  <nathan7>You could probably hack jitsu to append -staging when packing it up
16:03:23  <generalissimo>right, so what i want is the ability to specify multiple apps in package.json and pick which one i'm deploying when i deploy
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16:04:00  <generalissimo>and then webhooks could deploy my staging branch to myapp_staging and my master branch to myapp_production
16:04:23  <Sly>If you have it on Github, why don't you just create different repos with different package.json files?
16:04:51  <generalissimo>because that screws up git workflow
16:05:08  <Sly>You can always cherry-pick them together and avoid overwriting the package.json.
16:05:14  <generalissimo>and creates a "gotcha" scenario where i pull request staging branch into master branch
16:05:40  <generalissimo>and my staging changes to package.json overwrite my prod settings
16:06:00  <nathan7>I think jitsu should handle this
16:06:00  <Sly>Okay. So add a .gitignore in staging for package.json, and then you won't have to cherry pick.
16:06:00  <Sly>It'll just completely ignore it when you push to master.
16:06:14  <Sly>I mean, it's not jitsu. It's npm. NPM reads the package.json.
16:06:16  <Sly>That's not us.
16:06:19  <generalissimo>then i lose dependency versioning
16:06:25  <nathan7>Jitsu passes the package.json on
16:06:46  <generalissimo>aren't the application, subdomain, etc. things jitsu add-ons?
16:06:51  <generalissimo>that npm ignores
16:06:52  <Sly>If NPM has a way to specify reading something other than package.json, like package-staging.json.. let me know.
16:06:57  <Sly>I'll add it in real quick and get someone to publish it.
16:07:27  <Sly>Yeah.
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16:07:44  <nathan7>That means maintaining two package.jsons
16:07:51  <nathan7>the app name is jitsu's business
16:07:54  <nathan7>so is the subdomain
16:08:02  <Sly>Er.. actually.
16:08:02  <generalissimo>i feel like you could amend that format to accommodate multiple app names and subdomains in the same package.json
16:08:11  <Sly>"subdomain" and "domains", I believe.
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16:09:52  <generalissimo>and then let people make awesome workflows through the github webhooks, so every time i merge a feature branch to my staging branch it deploys the staging app, every time i merge my staging branch to master it deploys the prod app
16:10:06  <Sly>generalissimo: I'm not really sure right now. I know it's a feature request, so the best thing I can do is say to submit it as an issue on Github.
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16:10:44  <generalissimo>which repo should i submit that to?
16:10:56  <generalissimo>nodejitsu-api? jitsu?
16:11:08  <Sly>Trying to figure that out right now.
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16:14:34  <Sly>You know, it would probably be best to put it in `jitsu` for right now.
16:14:45  <Sly>So let's go with that.
16:14:51  <generalissimo>okay, cool
16:15:00  <generalissimo>yeah i imagine there's closed-source work to be done
16:15:13  <generalissimo>but jitsu seems like a close-enough place to document the request
16:15:24  * till_part
16:17:11  <jesusabdullah>Sly: what up?
16:17:22  <Sly>Nothing much, man. What you up to?
16:18:03  <jesusabdullah>chillin'
16:18:09  <jesusabdullah>just got back from dinner
16:18:13  <jesusabdullah>learning to ride a motorbike
16:19:39  <Sly>lol
16:19:56  <jesusabdullah>it's fun and exciting but also nerve-wracking
16:20:00  <jesusabdullah>I have terrible nerves
16:20:31  <jesusabdullah>oh wellolol
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16:29:18  <Sly>rofl, jesusabdullah.
16:29:35  <Sly>Are you learning to drive it in a class, or on the road?
16:29:46  <Sly>Like.. most classes do it in parking lots.
16:31:42  * Schr3dapart
16:35:01  <jesusabdullah>Sly: trial by fire XD
16:35:10  <jesusabdullah>Sly: the roads in this town are small and speeds are very slow
16:35:15  <jesusabdullah>Sly: but sometimes it gets congested
16:35:26  <jesusabdullah>Sly: and there's absolutely no sense of stop signes, etc.
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16:35:55  <Sly>rofl
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17:49:18  <jesusabdullah>anoemi: sup
17:49:26  <jesusabdullah>anoemi: I'd stay and chat but I gotta go!
17:49:42  <anoemi>ok, too busy and important for me
17:49:47  <anoemi>i understand :p
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18:02:23  <Leo__>Hey guys, could i ask a node.js question? node.js irc is kinda full rs..
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18:02:46  <AvianFlu>Leo__: yeah, what's good
18:03:03  <Leo__>For example.. if i have a module called user.js where users are loaded to buf from the db, i include user.js in a.js and b.js, a and b would each get a diferent instance of user.js correct? So if a change some 'user.propertie' in a.js it would not affect 'user.propertie' of b.js correct? is there anyway way to aproach this sharing the pointers?
18:03:05  <blakmatrix>go ahad
18:03:25  <Leo__>Kinda like header files in C.
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18:05:17  <AvianFlu>look into prototypes
18:05:53  <AvianFlu>what you're saying is true of the require cache, but you don't just want to use the object from require like that
18:05:55  <Leo__>Ok.
18:05:58  <AvianFlu>you'd want to return a singleton somewhere
18:06:01  <AvianFlu>or use a prototype
18:06:09  <doubletap>has anyone complained about DNS issues over on the nodejitsu side? The reason I mention this is because chrome seems to go senile at least once a day when I am trying to get to my app. It takes a long time for chrome to get its bearings again. the only thing i can think of is that it is some sort of dns glitch and then chrome caches that.
18:06:50  <blakmatrix>doubletap: never heard this before
18:06:53  <doubletap>like just a bit ago, chrome started getting a 502 bad gateway error from my app but when i went to my app in safari it was fine.
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18:08:55  <doubletap>blakmatrix: I have other users who get the same thing. my app will just be polling for deltas and then all the sudden chrome goes all nutso and can't find my domain anymore.
18:09:24  <blakmatrix>doubletap: have you checked your apps logs ?
18:09:36  <blakmatrix>and do it only do this with chrome?
18:09:40  <Leo__>hmm.. i noticed i cant really send in pointer &var.. they told me when ever i send a object in javascript, it is sent as a pointer.. is this true? is this true when sending the object to a separate module (changing that object inside the module will write to its memory pointer)?
18:09:44  <doubletap>blakmatrix: yea, my logs have no errors.
18:09:56  <doubletap>blakmatrix: well, my app is a chrome extension.
18:10:14  <doubletap>i am just prodding the bushes right now trying to narrow down the culprit.
18:10:23  <doubletap>it might even be my dns providere.
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18:11:53  <blakmatrix>doubletap: what is your username/appname?
18:12:14  <doubletap>doubletap/tagalong.io
18:12:27  <doubletap>or maybe just doubletap/tagalong
18:12:45  <blakmatrix>you said its a extention show hows it get used, and where do you see the 502 ?
18:13:12  <doubletap>in the response from my app.
18:13:33  <doubletap>it is just a GET call.
18:14:00  <blakmatrix>doubletap: how frequent is it
18:14:15  <doubletap>well, the 502 was new
18:14:28  <doubletap>usually chrome just cant find the domain.
18:15:00  <doubletap>i am still getting the 502
18:15:24  <doubletap>but i can see other users are not
18:15:42  <doubletap>i really think it is some sort of response that freaks chrome out.
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18:17:13  <ArxPoetica>ideas? https://gist.github.com/e0ef309c2b223041c34b
18:18:27  <ArxPoetica>"This type of error is usually a user error."
18:18:33  <ArxPoetica>Do y'all agree?
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18:21:06  <AvianFlu>ArxPoetica: try doing that minification before you deploy
18:21:12  <AvianFlu>and try to have the script start listening sooner
18:21:17  <AvianFlu>if it takes more than 20 seconds, that happens
18:21:18  <ArxPoetica>w/ jitsu package?
18:21:24  <ArxPoetica>I forget what the command is
18:21:42  <ArxPoetica>script start?
18:21:49  <ArxPoetica>as in the server?
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18:23:04  <ArxPoetica>oh I see what you mean. The socketstream minification
18:23:20  <ArxPoetica>AvianFlu, is that what you're referring to?
18:23:33  <ArxPoetica>this stuff: Minified libs/jquery-1.8.2.min.js from 91.243 KB to 91.115 KB
18:23:42  <blakmatrix>doubletap: let us know if you see that error again, one of the drones your app was on was really old, I transfered your app to a newer one so you shouldnt see that your app is refusing connections again
18:23:58  <doubletap>it is happening right now.
18:24:01  <AvianFlu>ArxPoetica: yeah, it's a tiny server, I'm guessing it's just taking a lot longer than you expect
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18:24:11  <ArxPoetica>ok
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18:24:38  <blakmatrix>doubletap: you might try refreshign your cache I refreshed mine then it worked
18:25:04  <doubletap>do you remember how to get to those tools in chrome?
18:25:06  <ArxPoetica>AvianFlu what did you mean about the script start listening sooner?
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18:25:49  <doubletap>blakmatrix: I found it chrome://net-internals/#dns
18:25:58  <blakmatrix>doubletap: I use "clear Cache"
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18:27:40  <doubletap>blakmatrix: so you saw the 502 also?
18:27:45  <doubletap>I feel like i am seeing a ghost.
18:27:48  <blakmatrix>earlier
18:28:00  <blakmatrix>but after i moved your app it went away
18:28:12  <ArxPoetica>AvianFlu?
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18:29:15  <ArxPoetica>"try to have the script start listening sooner" ??? Do you mean this line: app.listen.....
18:29:17  <ArxPoetica>?
18:29:19  <AvianFlu>yes
18:29:25  <AvianFlu>it needs to happen before any of that build stuff does
18:29:33  <ArxPoetica>k sounds good
18:29:35  <AvianFlu>but if you try turning off that minification it will probably help
18:29:42  <doubletap>blakmatrix: thank you. I can't seem to get chrome to see anything other than a 502 but I will figure that out.
18:29:45  <ArxPoetica>thx
18:31:15  <ArxPoetica>that actually helps quite a bit
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18:36:16  <doubletap>blakmatrix: i had to jitsu apps start and now it is working again.
18:37:43  <blakmatrix>doubletap: alright looks liek you're also only running it on one drone
18:38:08  <doubletap>blakmatrix: I am not polyamorous.
18:39:16  <blakmatrix>umm... lol?
18:39:29  <doubletap>blakmatrix: why do you mention the 1 drone? should I be more friendly with more drones?
18:40:04  <blakmatrix>doubletap: when you first came in I saw you had 2 drones running for your app thought you were scaling?
18:40:34  <doubletap>blakmatrix: well, that would have been totally unintentional if I was. I saw a movie about that where twins were messing with a guy.
18:40:58  <doubletap>he was as confused as i am
18:41:34  <doubletap>could i have done something to get it to run on two drones at the same time? all i do is jitsu deploy, logs, and start.
18:42:14  <blakmatrix>doubletap: I see, I was just being helpful for if yo udid intend to scale :) but since you're not you look all squared away, no redrum today ;)
18:42:27  <doubletap>nice
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18:47:39  <blakmatrix>Leo__: this might help http://www.javascriptkit.com/javatutors/closures.shtml
18:48:37  <Leo__>thanks.. will read.. still looking for the correct way to do what i described.
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18:59:06  <fearphage>there's a problem with the way thte tests are setup for pkgcloud
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18:59:32  <fearphage>i want to test and fix the download parameter for getFiles but I have to do it across the board if I care about failing tests
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19:06:51  <Sly>fearphage: the tests absolutely must pass in pkgcloud if they were passing before you made your changes.
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19:07:11  <Sly>If they weren't passing before you made your changes, then it's a problem with the tests themselves.
19:08:24  <Sly>We can't take a chance of pkgcloud being broke and then published to our servers.
19:08:45  <fearphage>Sly: obviously
19:08:58  <Sly>Just saying. :P
19:09:13  <fearphage>i'm saying adding tests for rackspace storage for instance will cause failing tests for amazon and others
19:09:43  <AvianFlu>fearphage: you should open an issue about this, and ping cronopio in it
19:09:46  <AvianFlu>you make a good point
19:09:56  <Sly>Ah, I see what you're saying now.
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19:10:19  <Sly>I thought you meant that something you changed in pkgcloud broke the tests.
19:10:55  <fearphage>but at the same time, the uniformity of the tests is very important as well
19:11:07  <fearphage>there is and has always been a single failing test in pkgcloud
19:11:14  <fearphage>i was hoping someone else would fix it
19:11:31  <fearphage>always = the last few weeks i've been working on
19:11:36  <fearphage>it
19:12:13  <Sly>Can you do a `git blame` and see what commit the erroring line was changed in last?
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19:38:44  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here?
19:39:08  <fearphage>vows.js doesn't allow a callback to be called N times, right?
19:39:20  <fearphage>i can't find a way to do it... although I see pull requests for it
19:40:26  <Sly>this.callback, I believe, will let you do it multiple times.
19:40:58  <fearphage>well i'm calling it
19:41:01  <Sly>Like.. topic: function() { doSomething(this.callback); }
19:41:09  <fearphage>but the test exits on the first call
19:41:17  <fearphage>it doesn't know to wait or expect more call
19:41:35  <fearphage>on the first call the asserts passes and it's on to the next test
19:42:33  <Sly>I'm certain there's a way to do it. Just trying to think of if I can remember any.
19:42:43  <Sly>Or something that might work, at least.
19:44:32  <Leo__>Ok.. so i am more situated about javascript referencing.. But is it bad practice to for example: to create a session_data object and pass/share it arround all modules ?
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19:46:18  <fearphage>Leo__: i do that on the fron it. I have an env variable which is a Backbone.Model that I set preprties on
19:46:23  <fearphage>front end
19:46:33  <fearphage>i generally can't type today
19:46:45  <fearphage>pobdy's nerfect
19:47:33  <fearphage>AvianFlu: i'll file that ticket later
19:48:40  <AvianFlu>cool, thanks
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20:15:10  <jaxon_>I am trying to get a CNAME to work with my mcookies.jit.su account. I created CNAME at beta.milkandcookies.com pointing to 165.225.129.253. Then I added beta.milkandcookies.com to my package.json: "domains": [ "beta.milkandcookies.com" ] What am I missing?
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20:15:29  <jaxon_>I sent in an email two days ago to support.
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20:16:33  <Leo__>fearphage: so in this case if session_data = {} is initiated by sd.js i would write all objects to process.env.obj? An whenever i required('./sd.js') i would check if the objects had already been initiated to process.env? Btw the intention of all this is to get all variables in buf and save it to db only when necessarie
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20:17:51  <yawnt>jaxon_:hi! you need to set a A record, not a CNAME
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20:19:26  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: put your domains in an array ["beta.milkandcookies.com"]
20:19:39  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: then update
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20:25:06  <jesusabdullah>yo dawgs, I'm back again for a short while
20:25:20  <jesusabdullah>I think when I left it was for watching the sunset?
20:25:41  <yawnt>right
20:25:44  <yawnt>it's snowing here
20:25:47  <yawnt>and you speak about sunset
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20:26:58  <jesusabdullah>yeah well
20:27:01  <jesusabdullah>I like snow too!
20:27:37  <yawnt>me too!
20:28:24  <jaxon_>I did put ["beta.milkandcookies.com"] into an array -> "domains": [ "beta.milkandcookies.com" ]
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20:28:59  <jaxon_>I can't use an A-Record because my main domain it hosted elsewhere for now
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20:29:55  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: what do yo uhave in your CNAME?
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20:32:42  <jaxon_>beta CNAME 165.225.131.5
20:32:46  <jaxon_>at Hover.com
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20:35:10  <jaxon_>Here is a really weird part, the CNAME works for me at home. But no where else.
20:35:51  <jaxon_>It's as if nodejitsu is only allowing my home IP to access it
20:36:03  <jesusabdullah>Alright time over, I'm going to bed
20:36:05  <AvianFlu>that wouldn't be the case, we've got nothing in place for stuff like that
20:36:09  <jesusabdullah>it's like 2:00am here
20:36:12  <jesusabdullah>hey AvianFlu
20:36:13  <jesusabdullah>:v
20:36:27  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: it should be beta.milkandcookies.com. not just beta or is that what ou pulled out of a form
20:36:39  <jaxon_>that's pulled from a form
20:36:58  <jesusabdullah>blakmatrix: take a look at the "run" buttons in this PR, tell me what you think https://github.com/Runnable/node-ecstatic
20:37:02  <jesusabdullah>blakmatrix: please XD
20:37:16  <jesusabdullah>blakmatrix: I'll read up in the am (nighttime for you I'm sure)
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20:38:43  <AvianFlu>OMG HI JESUSABDULLAH
20:39:16  <jaxon_>here is the result from dig: beta.milkandcookies.com. 839 IN CNAME 165.225.131.5.
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20:40:00  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: do you have any other records tht may be conflicting?
20:40:43  <jaxon_>how can I find out, what should I look for?
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20:41:24  <jaxon_>beta is only listed once
20:41:38  <jaxon_>there is an @ for the A record
20:42:38  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: did you get my PM about using mcookies.jit.su in there instead of the IP
20:43:21  <jaxon_>sorry, I just saw it. yes, it works to go to mcookies.jit.su
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20:44:53  <pm-me-guys>< yawnt
20:47:09  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: no I mean put that in your cname record
20:47:32  <jaxon_>oh, ok, I'll try it
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20:50:22  <jaxon_>@blakmatrix: I bet that's it. I've give it time to propagate and test it.
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20:50:53  <jaxon_>s/fingets/fingers/
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20:52:14  <jaxon_>Someone should add information about using CNAMES to http://dns.jit.su/
20:52:22  <jaxon_>;)
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20:55:08  <blakmatrix>jaxon_: looks liek its workign now
20:55:26  <blakmatrix>Sure I'll add that to dns.jit.us
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20:56:13  <jaxon_>Huzzah! Thank you so much! ;)
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21:23:26  <Ari>Does an application need to be deployed in order to access a nodejitsu hosted db (eg. mongodb)?
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21:23:52  <Ari>Or can the app be run locally and still access the db?
21:24:21  <blakmatrix>Ari: no, all of the DBs run from the respective providers
21:24:53  <Ari>sorry, I'm not sure I understand. Can you reword that?
21:25:59  <blakmatrix>Ari: the DBs are hosted by providers like IrisCouch, Redistogo, and Mongolabs for example, we just provide an easy to use interface in which you can create free DBs to use for your apps
21:26:24  <Ari>So in theory, I should be able to access them with a locally run app, right?
21:26:32  <blakmatrix>yes
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21:27:24  <Ari>Hmm. I'm a bit confused then. I'm having a hard time connecting correctly to mongodb using the pass string provided by nodejitsu
21:28:54  <Ari>I'm getting a 'failed to connect to' error when I try to connect.
21:29:07  <blakmatrix>Ari: can you walk me through what your doing
21:29:12  <Ari>sure
21:29:56  <Ari>I'm using mongoose
21:29:59  <Ari>like so:
21:30:01  <Ari>var mongoose = require('mongoose'); var db = mongoose.createConnection('mongodb://nodejitsu:[email protected]:10028', 'srdb');
21:30:24  <Ari>(old db btw, so pass isn't an issue)
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21:31:52  <Ari>I've checked multiple examples, and I can't see any reason why that shouldn't work
21:31:58  <Ari>any ideas?
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21:33:14  <blakmatrix>what version of mongose are you using
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21:34:32  <Ari>3.4.0 I believe
21:36:19  <Ari>This is the exact error I am receiving:
21:36:23  <Ari> Error: failed to connect to [alex.mongohq.com:10028:27017]
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21:39:12  <blakmatrix>Ari
21:39:17  <Ari>yes?
21:40:26  <blakmatrix>var db = mongoose.connect('mongodb://nodejitsu:[email protected]:10028/srdb'); does not work ?
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21:43:34  <Ari>well
21:43:40  <Ari>It's slightly different
21:43:52  <Ari>the initial connect doesn't seem to throw any errors
21:44:08  <Ari>but as soon as I attempt to save to or query the database
21:44:17  <Ari>I receive the following error:
21:44:35  <Ari> [MongoError: need to login] name: 'MongoError', errmsg: 'need to login', ok: 0
21:44:51  <Ari>which leads me to believe that it's not actually connected...
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21:51:41  <blakmatrix>I just created a mongo db from the jitsu tool and I am able to wite and save to it
21:51:54  <Ari>Hmm
21:52:01  <Ari>I didn't use the jitsu tool
21:52:08  <Ari>I did it directly through the website
21:52:15  <Ari>would that make a difference?
21:52:24  <blakmatrix>the jitsu tool even gives you code to copy and past
21:52:35  <Ari>the site does too I believe
21:52:49  <Ari>but I can try the jitsu tool right now too, just in case
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21:53:18  <Ari>what was the exact jitsu command you used?
21:54:14  <blakmatrix>jitsu databases create
21:54:19  <blakmatrix>then i made a mongo instance
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21:57:08  <Ari>what is the correct syntax to include the database name?
21:57:15  <Ari>It is throwing me an error each time
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21:58:35  <blakmatrix>it throws that error because you didnt create it with `jitsu databases create mongo <name_for_it_in_jitsu>`
21:58:39  <blakmatrix>its a minor bug
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22:02:40  <Ari>ok, and can you past the basic commands you used to save to/ query the database?
22:02:59  <Ari>I'm wondering now if it's not actually the command syntax that is causing the login error....
22:03:37  <blakmatrix>sure just a sec
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22:08:20  <blakmatrix>Ari: https://gist.github.com/f71032e92a0b87d88f98
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22:12:29  <Ari>tried running your code, and sure enough, it seems to be working
22:12:57  <Ari>There must have been something wrong with the code following my connect that was triggering a weird error
22:13:52  <Ari>My laptop's battery is just about dead, so I'm going to head out for now, but I'll try and figure out what was wrong before. I'll let you know if I have any other questions.
22:13:58  <Ari>Thanks a ton for the help :)
22:13:59  <blakmatrix>I don't know if it is a mongoose problem but simetimes if you try authing a second time it can throw weird errors
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22:14:10  <blakmatrix>Ari no prob hope you get it figured out
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22:19:01  <xoma>test
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22:26:42  <xoma>sdf
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22:26:52  <xoma>hallo
22:27:44  <b|lotus>xoma: Hi
22:28:13  <xoma>what's up?
22:28:33  <b|lotus>xoma: boring
22:28:54  <b|lotus>you?
22:29:02  <xoma>you should go to clubs to get some chicks
22:30:32  <b|lotus>xoma: yeah
22:31:10  <xoma>do you know nodejs? i m creating site
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22:32:25  <b|lotus>xoma: I am studying it
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22:44:50  <blakmatrix>test
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22:56:38  <ph0n3tic>@jesusabdullah: Hey, probably a trivial error on my part, but any idea why ecstatic wouldn't map / -> /index/html? I get a file 404 at / but /index.html is fine.
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23:07:38  <Guest31325>Hey all, can I ask a generic Flatiron question here?
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23:09:23  <Guest31325>I am trying to understand how to use Flatiron and the Hello World type apps are nice, but its unclear how the various bits (Director, Resourceful, etc) work together for a real world web app. If anyone has pointers to any guides or tutorials that would be great.
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23:14:55  <blakmatrix>Guest31325: the blog has some good articles.. let me see if I can find a link
23:15:58  <blakmatrix>Guest31325: http://blog.nodejitsu.com/getting-started-with-flatiron
23:16:54  <blakmatrix>ph0n3tic: are you expecting it to render the page in html with the "/html" part... as far as I know ecstatic acts like a static file server
23:17:24  <Guest31325>Thank you much! I will go read that now.
23:17:35  <blakmatrix>so you'd need a file named html, under the index directory, under the public folder
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23:17:48  <ph0n3tic>blakmatrix: Sorry the /html is a typo. I have a server.js with the basic union/ecstatic example and a public folder with index.html
23:18:10  <blakmatrix>o
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23:18:19  <ph0n3tic>And when I load localhost:8080/ it tells me file not found, which is odd, because I thought it would default to index.html
23:18:24  <blakmatrix>weird it should
23:18:36  <ph0n3tic>loading loaclhost:8080/index.html is no issue.
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23:20:36  <blakmatrix>ph0n3tic: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic/blob/master/lib/ecstatic.js#L100 looks like there is an autoIndex property yo uneed to set
23:22:01  <blakmatrix>ecstatic({ root: __dirname + '/public', autoIndex: true })
23:23:58  <ph0n3tic>blakmatrix: yes! Thank you :) worked like a charm. Can't believe I missed that in the instructions...
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23:38:00  <ph0n3tic>does the TTL matter when using a custom domain?
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