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00:10:08  <defunctzombie>feedback: on the homepage when I click login it takes me to another page where I have to click login again
00:10:12  <defunctzombie>this is sadness
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00:10:52  <coderarity>defunctzombie: huh, yeah
00:11:07  <coderarity>defunctzombie: i'm not sure how/if that's fixable but i'll make an issue
00:11:43  <defunctzombie>hahah, how would it not be fixable?
00:12:06  <mmalecki>it is fixable
00:12:13  <mmalecki>I'm bored and will implement this evening
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00:14:45  <coderarity>defunctzombie: because javascript
00:14:55  <defunctzombie>o.o
00:15:07  <mmalecki>lol
00:15:10  <coderarity>defunctzombie: that thing is probably a javascript button
00:15:18  <coderarity>it doesn't look like it links to a hashtag
00:16:35  <mmalecki>coderarity: I'll make it yo
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00:36:11  <defunctzombie>is there a way to make the jitsu tool stop bumping the version in my local package.json file?
00:36:27  <mmalecki>defunctzombie: no, sorry
00:36:32  <defunctzombie>bah
00:36:52  <coderarity>mmalecki: it has to :\
00:36:54  <coderarity>i mean
00:36:55  <coderarity>defunctzombie: ^
00:37:12  <defunctzombie>coderarity: na, it doesn't cause if I undo the change
00:37:18  <defunctzombie>and deploy again it works fine
00:37:29  <defunctzombie>I could leave the version at 0.0.0 forever and it works
00:37:36  <mmalecki>hmm?
00:37:37  <defunctzombie>you guys just bump it on the server anyway
00:37:39  <mmalecki>really?
00:37:46  <mmalecki>nah, it's an array internally
00:37:47  <coderarity>are you sure you didn't try that when it failed?
00:37:49  <defunctzombie>try it
00:38:01  <defunctzombie>I know ive done it before
00:38:05  <defunctzombie>maybe things have changed
00:39:13  <coderarity>i asked me to go up to the next version when i did that
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00:39:19  <coderarity>defunctzombie: yeah, that would have been a bug
00:39:30  <coderarity>defunctzombie: make sure to have your jitsu version up to date :D
00:39:57  <defunctzombie>well, if I push to github
00:40:01  <defunctzombie>and don't change the version
00:40:06  <defunctzombie>it still deploys, right?
00:40:48  <coderarity>i'm not actually sure exactly what happens in that situation, but i think it does
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00:41:58  <defunctzombie>let me rephrase that
00:42:01  <defunctzombie>yes it works
00:42:08  <defunctzombie>:)
00:42:12  <coderarity>yeah
00:42:16  <defunctzombie>so clearly the version doesn't have to change
00:42:34  <mmalecki>defunctzombie: ah. webhooks.
00:42:44  <coderarity>maybe it ups the version itself, i'm not sure, i have to test it or ask
00:42:45  <mmalecki>it actually has the logic to bump the version internally
00:42:56  <coderarity>oh, well :D
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00:45:07  <defunctzombie>:)
00:46:16  <mmalecki>defunctzombie: not incrementing it is shooting yourself in the foot
00:46:27  <defunctzombie>why is that?
00:46:41  <coderarity>defunctzombie: it'd overwrite a snapshot, probably
00:46:43  <mmalecki>if your deploy fails and server starts misbehaving you can just revert with snapshots
00:46:45  <defunctzombie>honestly, I don't want to increment another number when I have a git commit for it already
00:46:53  <coderarity>or maybe not write it, who knows
00:46:55  <defunctzombie>mmalecki: I can do that now
00:47:01  <defunctzombie>the server gives me a new version anyway
00:47:12  <mmalecki>also, semantically, it *is* correct to bump your version after deploy
00:47:16  <mmalecki>because it is a release
00:47:41  <coderarity>defunctzombie: you can just have a deploy commit, that's pretty comon
00:47:53  <coderarity>defunctzombie: just like, git commit -a -m "deploy" :D
00:48:04  <defunctzombie>why bother?
00:48:09  <defunctzombie>if I have a deploy branch
00:48:15  <defunctzombie>just more manual work and crap I need to do ;)
00:48:27  <coderarity>could make a postdeploy hook
00:48:33  <coderarity>then it'd be automati
00:48:34  <coderarity>c
00:48:50  <coderarity>also, don't you want to know what the code was at the last time you deployed?
00:49:06  <coderarity>helps with debugging
00:50:35  <defunctzombie>coderarity: why would I do any of this when I can just push to github and it deploys?
00:50:43  <defunctzombie>everything you are talking about is just more work
00:50:50  <defunctzombie>I want *less* work
00:51:13  <defunctzombie>if I wanted more I wouldn't be in the business of writing programs to do my jobs for me ;)
00:51:35  <coderarity>i mean, if you're doing push deploys, then it doesn't ask, does it?
00:52:11  <coderarity>it's only when you deploy with jitsu that happens, if you want to avoid it and just use the github hook, then feel free :D
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00:56:27  <mmalecki>defunctzombie: try clicking "Log in" now :)
00:56:41  <mmalecki>if it doesn't work, clean your cache and so on :)
00:56:47  <defunctzombie>mmalecki: \o/
00:56:49  <defunctzombie>works
00:57:08  <anoemi>mmalecki: nice one :)
00:58:41  <mmalecki>pleasure :)
00:59:34  <coderarity>hooray! :D
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02:19:20  <fauverism>Hi anybody in here?
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02:40:30  <coderarity>Fabryz___: yo
02:40:34  <coderarity>ooops
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02:53:20  <mmalecki>^ yup, I just did that.
02:53:31  <coderarity>good
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02:54:13  <mmalecki>LET THE HOLY WAR BEGIN
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02:56:15  <coderarity>no one likes tabs
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03:49:37  <coderarity>to those who think they like tabes: you don't like tabs
03:49:40  <coderarity>tabs*
03:49:52  <coderarity>:P
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08:05:47  <jimmy>Anyone here willing to help me out with something?
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08:12:09  <defunctzombie>is the "engines" field in package.json respected? or is the latest node version always used?
08:12:16  <defunctzombie>is there a place where I can see available versions?
08:12:22  <substack>it's ignored
08:12:56  <substack>oh wait, only in npm >_<
08:13:02  <coderarity>jimmy: what's up?
08:13:07  <coderarity>defunctzombie: engines field is used
08:13:32  <defunctzombie>coderarity: is there a place to find the available ones?
08:13:35  <coderarity>defunctzombie: no place for seeing available versions, just use 0.8.x for now (will use the latest 0.8 version available)
08:13:40  <defunctzombie>gotcha
08:13:41  <defunctzombie>thx
08:14:17  <coderarity>every time i send an email, i mess it up
08:14:20  <coderarity>like seriously
08:14:29  <defunctzombie>sounds like you need that delayed email feature
08:14:30  <defunctzombie>haha
08:14:58  <coderarity>yeah lol
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08:19:02  <defunctzombie>how would I look at /root/tmp/tmp-161322rtcd9c/build/package/npm-debug.log
08:19:12  <defunctzombie>a deployment is failing
08:19:19  <coderarity>you can't
08:19:21  <defunctzombie>and npm is saying that file might be of interest to me
08:19:22  <defunctzombie>hahaha
08:19:24  <coderarity>bu i can
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08:19:57  <defunctzombie>I really an not used to not having box access ;P
08:21:47  <coderarity>oh man
08:21:52  <coderarity>it's like 2000 lines long
08:22:37  <defunctzombie>well, I dunno what to tell you there
08:23:09  <coderarity>well, here's the relevant stuff https://gist.github.com/9bfcc6e3846bce30ead1
08:23:39  <coderarity>either your version is way off, or npm is being slow
08:24:18  <defunctzombie>hm
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08:24:40  <coderarity>oh, uh
08:24:44  <coderarity>you can't use git repositories
08:24:47  <defunctzombie>that is some old npm you have there
08:24:50  <defunctzombie>and some old node
08:25:03  <defunctzombie>I can.. but that npm version doesn't support the shorthand syntax :(
08:25:12  <defunctzombie>adness
08:25:14  <defunctzombie>*sadness
08:25:53  <defunctzombie>is 8.8 the latest you guys have currently?
08:26:03  <coderarity>not necessarily
08:26:09  <coderarity>that's the version on the server that builds dependencies
08:26:30  <defunctzombie>wut
08:26:42  <coderarity>installing dependencies is seperate from running on a drone
08:26:45  <defunctzombie>um... yea... that isn't gonna work out so hot btw
08:26:49  <coderarity>because the drones are small and npm is memory greedy
08:26:52  <defunctzombie>if you know anything about c++
08:26:57  <coderarity>i do
08:27:22  <defunctzombie>I imagine this could end in sadness for someone's binary module at some point
08:27:32  <coderarity>why?
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08:27:46  <defunctzombie>you need to learn more about c++ and linking ;)
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08:27:58  <coderarity>the build sever is the same environment as the drones, just more memory
08:28:10  <defunctzombie>if the node version is different
08:28:15  <defunctzombie>then the environment isn't the same
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08:28:44  <jimmy>Ohh damn sorry I missed your reply, but I'm pretty new to this and am trying to install sockjs onto the server, how can I accomplish this? When I do "npm install sockjs" then "jitsu deply" from the directory I get this error: http://errors.jit.su/errors/ba56ce42-b024-4dcc-afe2-d718539d3485/edit
08:28:44  <defunctzombie>if anything changes in the c++ code or v8 data structures you could end up with a build on node 0.8.8 that will not run on 0.8.16
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08:29:38  <coderarity>defunctzombie: the node versions are the same right now
08:29:46  <defunctzombie>0.8.8 ?
08:29:49  <coderarity>defunctzombie: yeah
08:29:53  <defunctzombie>:'(
08:30:13  <coderarity>i'm sure it will be dealt with if it becomes a problem
08:30:34  <coderarity>i think that maybe the build server already works with that - perhaps it knows the latest is 0.8.8 and builds according to that
08:30:38  <defunctzombie>a company that specializes in node.js deployment... might want to have the latest versions available :p
08:31:58  <coderarity>defunctzombie: a lot of people are busy, i'm sure it'll be updated eventually - i thought some drones had 0.8.10, haven't seen any though
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08:33:53  <defunctzombie>I would think the various version deployments would be more or less automatic
08:34:08  <coderarity>jimmy: you should do `npm install sockjs --save` :P
08:34:21  <coderarity>jimmy: also, do you have a script to run in there?
08:34:31  <coderarity>jimmy: you've got to have a server that listens on a port
08:34:58  <coderarity>jimmy: if you don't need to use the http server, just make a dummy one, `require('http').createServer().listen()`
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08:36:08  <coderarity>that should probably be `listen(8080)
08:36:09  <coderarity>`
08:36:58  <coderarity>defunctzombie: you mean, automatically send the latest version of node to all of the drones when it comes out?
08:37:02  <jimmy>I have the index.js script that is made when you install sockjs via npm
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08:37:55  <defunctzombie>coderarity: yea, or make it available.. if people want a specific version, encourage pinning engines
08:37:58  <defunctzombie>that is what it is there for
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08:38:09  <defunctzombie>but I don't see why it shouldn't be available to users
08:38:21  <coderarity>because time and priorities :P
08:38:30  <defunctzombie>this is why we have computers
08:38:35  <defunctzombie>you automate it ;)
08:39:06  <coderarity>defunctzombie: if only we could automate thinking, then we could just play video games all day :D
08:39:17  <defunctzombie>as far as deploying new node versions
08:39:24  <defunctzombie>I do it very easily across several machines
08:39:29  <defunctzombie>one easy build to an nfs drive
08:39:30  <defunctzombie>and done
08:40:03  <defunctzombie>I'm sure you guys have some chef or puppet or some other sort of fanciness that could make this trivial :)
08:40:39  <jimmy>@coderarity Thank you very much, I figured it out. That script it gives you is bare bones with nothing in it.
08:41:08  <coderarity>jimmy: yeah, okay. you need to create the script in the directory containing the "node_modules" folder
08:41:18  <coderarity>jimmy: there's examples in that node_modules/sockjs folder, too
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08:42:53  <jimmy>OHHH I see. Good thing you told me, I was still doing it wrong haha. thanks though
08:43:07  <coderarity>:D
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08:47:47  <jimmy>Dude. It worked amazing! I think I love you.
08:47:55  <coderarity>i think i do to
08:47:59  <coderarity>love myself, that is
08:48:03  <coderarity>:D
08:48:08  <jimmy>:D
08:49:08  <jimmy>So when ever making a script I have to include "dependencies": { "node-static": "0.5.9", "sockjs": "*" } in package.json?
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08:49:35  <coderarity>well, if you use node-static and sockjs in that script, yes
08:49:43  <coderarity>it depends on the script
08:49:54  <coderarity>if you just use `npm install --save` to install things, it should add it automatically
08:51:13  <jimmy>Ohh alright, thanks again. Hopefully it'll run smooth from here :D
08:52:21  <jimmy>You have a good night.
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09:28:45  <tim>hi folks, what is going with jitsu?
09:29:00  <tim>i cant access my account settings page for 3 days already
09:29:07  <tim>status page says - everything is ok
09:29:10  <coderarity>what happens?
09:29:17  <tim>econnreset error
09:29:39  <tim>An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNRESET"}
09:29:42  <tim>this one
09:30:44  <coderarity>tim: can I have your username?
09:30:59  <tim>y
09:31:00  <tim>w8
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09:38:14  <coderarity>tim: submitted an issue, found the problem
09:38:19  <coderarity>should be fixed soon
09:38:40  <tim>ok
09:38:41  <tim>ty
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16:34:01  <Oliver_>Hi, anyone aware of an issue with socket.io 'client not handshaken' errors when scaling past 1 drone?
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16:36:36  <yawnt>heya stoke
16:37:00  <stoke>hi yawnt
16:37:46  <stoke>o/
16:42:09  <Sly>Oliver_: I've heard a lot of bad things about socket.io lately, like memory leaks and such.
16:42:14  <Sly>But I've heard a lot of good things about sockjs.
16:43:42  <Oliver_>Well, I'm pretty established with io and to date it's done the job... I'll look into sockjs but I'd rather make what I have work
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16:53:56  <Sly>Oliver_: I'm not sure why it would be saying that. I haven't heard of that happening. I was just pointing out that I've heard of people having other problems with socket.io.
16:56:09  <Oliver_>Fair enough, it's probably worth my time running some soak tests to verify memory usage - hopefully not an issue. But if it won't scale well over multiple drones leaks are a moot point!
16:56:48  <Oliver_>So, is it fair to say others are able to load balance traffic over multiple drones without issue? If so, that helps me narrow down my issue.
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20:16:24  <konklone>so WebRTC: it's pretty cool
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20:16:44  <konklone>the DataChannel is going to make new things possible besides audio/video chat
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20:17:09  <konklone>none of the node.js libs are stable, but that's cause neither is the protocol
20:17:17  <konklone>it'll be interesting to see how far it can get this year
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23:15:09  <konklone>I just put up a collection of screenshots from isitchristmas this year: http://www.flickr.com/photos/konklone/sets/72157632388653620/
23:15:17  <konklone>a lot of great ones, thanks for making it possible Nodejitsu :)
23:19:50  <mmalecki>konklone: this is awesome, thanks :)
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23:27:27  <anoemi>konklone: pumped we could help make it happen :)
23:27:39  <anoemi>also thanks AvianFlu ;)
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23:31:18  <AvianFlu>konklone: thanks for giving us a chance to stress-test so many things :D
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23:47:46  <konklone>AvianFlu: my pleasure :)
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