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00:33:37  <arush>Hi
00:33:55  <arush>got an issue with my app brandid-dev.jit.su
00:34:37  <arush>when trying to post data to it, I'm getting the following error https://gist.github.com/4479958
00:34:48  <arush>works on local
00:35:21  <arush>and nodejitsu log just shows "listening" no action
00:36:02  <AvianFlu>arush: let me see your package.json
00:36:13  <AvianFlu>you might have a different express version from fuzzy dep ranges
00:36:17  <AvianFlu>or something like that
00:36:31  <AvianFlu>that error is from express, it means you don't have a handler for that method on that route
00:36:43  <AvianFlu>it's almost definitely a slight misconfiguration
00:36:45  <arush>whats fuzzydep?
00:36:55  <AvianFlu>if you use a * for a version, or a >-
00:36:58  <AvianFlu>>=
00:37:10  <AvianFlu>it can sometimes pull a breaking api change you didn't realize was there
00:39:11  <arush>another weird thing is if you go to jitsu.getbrandid.com
00:39:20  <arush>vs if you go to brandid-dev.jit.su
00:39:59  <arush>AvianFlu, if I do npm update it should error on my local too though with fuzzy deps ?
00:40:18  <AvianFlu>don't npm update - `rm -rf node_modules` and then `npm install`
00:40:21  <AvianFlu>to be sure
00:40:22  <AvianFlu>but yeah, it should
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00:42:33  <arush>AvianFlu, you were right it was a broken route, but I'm still getting the econnrefused issue
00:42:50  <AvianFlu>arush: when are you seeing it
00:42:53  <arush>An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
00:43:04  <AvianFlu>run `jitsu apps start` again
00:43:08  <arush>on any successful route
00:43:20  <AvianFlu>it could mean your app is crashing, or that I have to delete that drone VM
00:43:32  <AvianFlu>if `jitsu apps start` makes it work, it's a bad VM
00:43:39  <AvianFlu>otherwise it's an app issue that I'll help you fix
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00:44:50  <arush>it worked after i did a deploy again
00:44:58  <AvianFlu>okay, cool
00:45:07  <AvianFlu>I'll fix that other VM
00:45:07  <arush>but now its saying unauthorised !
00:45:25  <arush>for https:// routes that require auth
00:45:42  <arush>even though it successfully passed auth a second ago!
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00:47:16  <AvianFlu>has anything else changed?
00:47:28  <AvianFlu>maybe it's another API change? or did you set the version back
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00:49:07  <arush>weird
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00:49:38  <arush>i curled it and it worked, but seems recurly's push noty http auth is working sometimes and not others
00:50:23  <AvianFlu>I don't know what recurly is
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00:56:16  <arush>AvianFlu, it's just a payment service like stripe.com
00:56:51  <arush>AvianFlu, anyways if Recurly is saying it's unauthorised, i can't think of anything I can do here
00:57:08  <AvianFlu>arush: how do you get the creds into the app
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00:57:19  <AvianFlu>maybe missing config suddenly, or a missing env var?
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01:01:43  <arush>AvianFlu, nope. This must be a recurly bug
01:01:57  <arush>is it possible that my HTTP user and passwords are too long?
01:02:06  <arush>they are 63 characters long
01:03:07  <AvianFlu>that seems like it would be more on recurly's end
01:06:06  <arush>AvianFlu, is there any way i can see the app's file structure to see if all files are there?
01:07:01  <AvianFlu>arush: not directly, but I can help there
01:07:07  <AvianFlu>are you using a .gitignore or .npmignore?
01:07:10  <arush>nope
01:07:24  <arush>there should be a file custom_modules/brandid/auth.js
01:07:26  <AvianFlu>okay, that's the only real reason we'd ignore any files
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01:07:37  <AvianFlu>what does your code do if that's not there?
01:08:18  <arush>AvianFlu, lol it shouldn't even run
01:08:35  <AvianFlu>okay, it's probably there then
01:08:38  <AvianFlu>let me look at the drone
01:09:07  <arush>AvianFlu, it would say 'cannot find module'
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01:09:16  <AvianFlu>right
01:09:20  <AvianFlu>so I'll have a look at the drone
01:09:56  <arush>AvianFlu, i just tried curl again and it worked, its just not working from the Recurly web console
01:10:20  <AvianFlu>strange
01:10:23  <AvianFlu>probably something on their end
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01:12:33  <AvianFlu>arush: have a look at your `jitsu logs` output
01:12:42  <AvianFlu>it looks from the drone logs like some are working and some aren't
01:12:59  <AvianFlu>which would indicate, possibly, a difference between what you're doing from curl and what the recurly web console is doing
01:13:11  <arush>AvianFlu, yeah
01:13:28  <arush>the logs take so long to download
01:14:05  <arush>AvianFlu, actually no the logs are good
01:14:13  <AvianFlu>I saw a 500 when I looked
01:14:13  <arush>AvianFlu, those errors are something else
01:14:16  <AvianFlu>oh, okay
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01:14:20  <AvianFlu>nevermind then, I dunno
01:15:02  <AvianFlu>I unfortunately can't always help much with third-party service issues
01:15:29  <arush>AvianFlu, what's your view on doing stuff like this instead of using npm : js2xml: 'git://github.com/brandid/js2xml.git#master'
01:15:35  <arush>in package.json
01:15:56  <AvianFlu>use https://, I recommend
01:16:02  <arush>ok
01:16:07  <AvianFlu>https://github.com/brandid/js2xml/tarball/master
01:16:17  <AvianFlu>is a tarball of the branchname you give
01:16:29  <AvianFlu>which npm knows what to do with
01:16:33  <arush>AvianFlu, nice
01:18:05  <arush>AvianFlu, FIXED THE PROBLEM
01:18:12  <AvianFlu>word, what was it
01:18:17  <AvianFlu>oh, was it that!?
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01:18:24  <arush>AvianFlu, Recurly cannot handle long usernames and passwords
01:18:28  <AvianFlu>oh, there you go
01:18:31  <arush>changed them to 10 characters
01:18:31  <AvianFlu>that makes sense
01:18:38  <AvianFlu>gotta truncate the buffer somewhere XD
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01:18:52  <arush>AvianFlu, ahh i see
01:19:09  <AvianFlu>meaning that everyone has to pick a char limit at some point, I suppose
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01:42:59  <msyoder>HI
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01:46:42  <AvianFlu>msyoder: what's up
01:46:52  <msyoder>hi there
01:47:14  <msyoder>I have successfully installed my simple app on nodejitsu
01:47:23  <msyoder>and it runs
01:47:37  <msyoder>funny thing is that it asks me to redirect to prot 8080
01:47:49  <msyoder>which my browser obeys
01:48:08  <msyoder>to bad nothing responds on the new temporary location.
01:48:11  <msyoder>has me a bit confused.
01:48:19  <msyoder>App works fine running locally
01:49:48  <msyoder>I sent an email to support yesterday. Thought I'd try IRC today...
01:50:40  <AvianFlu>what's trying to redirect you to 8080?
01:50:51  <AvianFlu>the apps should only be available via 80
01:50:54  <AvianFlu>or 443 if it
01:50:56  <AvianFlu>s https
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01:55:25  <msyoder>Hi @AvianFlu got kicked off somehow. Are you still there?
01:55:54  <blakmatrix>msyoder: only port 80 and 443 are available
01:56:11  <msyoder>That's what I understood.
01:56:25  <blakmatrix>msyoder: what is triing to redirect you to 8080?
01:56:26  <AvianFlu>msyoder: can you figure out where the 8080 redirect is coming from?
01:56:30  <AvianFlu>mgiht be client code somewhere?
01:58:07  <msyoder>from http://yodertv.jit.su/api/1/databases/test-todo/collections/todo?apiKey=50a2a0e3e4b0cd0bfc12435d
01:58:13  <msyoder>I get a 302
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01:59:13  <blakmatrix>sounds like server side code... going there in 443 doesn't redirect
01:59:16  <msyoder>and the location in the response says: location:https://yodertv.jit.su:8080/api/1/databases/test-todo/collections/todo?apiKey=50a2a0e3e4b0cd0bfc12435d
01:59:21  <msyoder>use port 8080 and https ?
02:00:09  <msyoder>I know I use https on the mongolab side of my proxy
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02:00:24  <blakmatrix>perhaps there is a secure config somewhare that forces https on a port and this case 8080?
02:00:45  <blakmatrix>msyoder: what are you running server side?
02:01:03  <blakmatrix>for routing
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02:03:19  <msyoder>blakmatrix: I'm running a static server for my scripts
02:03:36  <msyoder>and a simply proxy for the mongolab rest api calls.
02:04:15  <blakmatrix>what is the static server, self made or from a particular module
02:04:28  <msyoder>runs OK from my local host. Still an experiment just trying to try out nodejitsu
02:04:40  <blakmatrix>can you show me your code?
02:04:46  <msyoder>It's the simple static server example from node
02:05:30  <msyoder>How best to share?
02:05:36  <blakmatrix>gist
02:05:45  <blakmatrix>http://gist.github.com
02:05:47  <msyoder>ok,
02:06:50  <msyoder>https://gist.github.com/11716a499d5c294b9b19
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02:09:13  <msyoder>I see some noise in the code that I left in from learning about CORS
02:09:28  <b3r4d>i am trying to install nodejitsu
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02:09:54  <b3r4d>[sudo] npm install npm -g
02:09:56  <b3r4d>what does sudo mean
02:15:38  <AvianFlu>b3r4d: what OS are you on
02:17:19  <b3r4d>windows
02:18:00  <AvianFlu>you don't need to worry about sudo
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02:18:10  <AvianFlu>you need it to do stuff that requires admin access on unix systems
02:19:26  <msyoder>b3r4d: runas does for windows what sodu does for linux
02:19:59  <b3r4d>ok let me look into that
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02:27:25  <msyoder>@blakmatrix: I changed the code to default to port 80 and took out the set.header ('allow') just in case. no change in behavior.
02:28:06  <blakmatrix>msyoder: what is your username/appname?
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02:29:27  <msyoder>yodertv/Todos
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02:30:27  <msyoder>you can find it at yodertv.jit.su
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02:37:28  <msyoder>BTW, is jit.su really in the soviet union as the domain name suggests?
02:40:20  <AvianFlu>it is, in fact
02:40:26  <AvianFlu>you really don't want to know what that time machine cost
02:40:46  <msyoder>:)
02:41:16  <AvianFlu>the servers are in the US, but it is, in fact, a soviet domain name
02:44:40  <msyoder>evidence that technology is more difficult to decommission than even a nation
02:47:05  <AvianFlu>hahahaha
02:47:06  <AvianFlu>I like that
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02:58:46  <msyoder>@blakmatrix: Just checking. My node seems to logging some new header info. Is that you?
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03:13:43  <msyoder>AvianFlu: any sign of blakmatrix?
03:14:20  <AvianFlu>msyoder: what was that about header info you were saying?
03:15:09  <msyoder>He seemed to take an interest in my redirect problem. Then I saw he quit about 15min ago.
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03:17:10  <AvianFlu>msyoder: yeah, I'm not sure where he's off to
03:17:17  <AvianFlu>but something in your code is giving a 302 that shouldn't be
03:17:22  <AvianFlu>and we need to try to track it down
03:17:43  <AvianFlu>here you go, it's this
03:17:43  <AvianFlu>https://gist.github.com/11716a499d5c294b9b19#file-gistfile1-txt-L13
03:19:58  <AvianFlu>it's not really possible to pass args into haibu
03:20:17  <AvianFlu>let me keep looking actually...
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03:21:14  <AvianFlu>msyoder: can you gist me the client code, similarly?
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03:24:49  <msyoder>Yeah, I thought args stuff might be an issue, but the docs say it doesn't matter what port I listen to above 1024 I can only get there from the outside. I'' gist you the client code now
03:25:43  <AvianFlu>yeah that was a misread on my part
03:25:50  <AvianFlu>I was scanning for the numbers "8080" and "302" lol
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03:26:03  <AvianFlu>but yes, please, the client code will help
03:29:36  <msyoder>Are you familiar with angular,js? That's what's actually making the call.
03:30:02  <AvianFlu>not really, but I should be okay
03:31:02  <msyoder>https://gist.github.com/e5d5163bf231f87295ca
03:32:40  <AvianFlu>maybe try logging window.location.href
03:32:48  <AvianFlu>and see if it's somehow incorrectly got the :8080
03:32:53  <AvianFlu>I'm really not sure what this would be
03:33:27  <msyoder>If you replace yodertv.jit.su with api.mongolab.com which is basically what my proxy does you can see the data I'm expecting.
03:33:47  <AvianFlu>I really don't know where the 302 is coming from here...
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03:39:39  <AvianFlu>so wait, msyoder, where's the 302?
03:39:49  <AvianFlu>I'm not actually seeing it in the browser; I'm also not actually seeing anything load
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03:41:51  <msyoder>I'll gist you the debug from chrome
03:45:00  <msyoder>just use this url: http://yodertv.jit.su/api/1/databases/test-todo/collections/todo?apiKey=50a2a0e3e4b0cd0bfc12435d
03:45:24  <msyoder>It gets redirected by jit.su
03:45:40  <AvianFlu>okay
03:45:51  <AvianFlu>can you inspect the status code coming back from mongo, on the server side?
03:45:57  <AvianFlu>I think *that* url might need to be 8080
03:46:04  <AvianFlu>and you're forwarding the redirect back one step further than you need
03:46:09  <AvianFlu>like, the db may need to follow that redirect
03:46:11  <AvianFlu>but not the client
03:46:16  <AvianFlu>cause of the proxying
03:46:19  <AvianFlu>does that make sense?
03:46:39  <msyoder>I didn't give you all the client code just the backend module so nothing interest is happening, It's repeatable with the above URL which is what my code actually calls in the end
03:47:10  <AvianFlu>occam's razor - the only place left that can be producing a 302 here is the database itself
03:47:15  <AvianFlu>maybe, hang on
03:48:31  <msyoder>Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. That the redirect was coming from mongo.
03:48:43  <AvianFlu>except I just remembered this isn't couch
03:48:48  <AvianFlu>the database isn't talking HTTP, is it?
03:49:05  <msyoder>right, it's https
03:49:09  <AvianFlu>nope, I'm derping here
03:49:13  <AvianFlu>dump the status code from there
03:49:17  <AvianFlu>I bet that's where it's coming from
03:49:29  <AvianFlu>maybe handle 302 explicitly there
03:49:41  <AvianFlu>in the request part of your proxy
03:49:43  <AvianFlu>in the response
03:52:16  <msyoder>ok, let me try that. I think that's what blakmatrix started to do. I saw logging in my app that I didn't put in.
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03:54:27  <msyoder>I guess it could be the case that when I call from the soviet union mongo sends me to a more hardend port! ha
03:55:10  <msyoder>This works fine from my ip address in NY
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03:55:53  <AvianFlu>for the sake of argument
03:56:03  <AvianFlu>actually nevermind
03:56:07  <AvianFlu>yeah, it's probably just that it's from us
03:56:30  <AvianFlu>you're in joyent us-east-1, so it wouldn't look that fishy
03:56:34  <AvianFlu>the ip, I mean
04:01:53  <msyoder>Your right. My proxy is so thorough that the redirect comes through. https://gist.github.com/a46f53d1a1e6430cc312
04:03:03  <msyoder>I don't understand how it gets yodertv.jit.su as the host? When I create the https request I use mongo
04:03:28  <msyoder> hostname. How does the response have my servers host name?
04:04:29  <msyoder>I can also gather from this that the node https module doesn't handle redirects for us.
04:05:01  <AvianFlu>cause when you proxy back, you change the host
04:05:03  <AvianFlu>that's how it works
04:05:10  <AvianFlu>but you also pass the status code and everything there
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04:05:21  <AvianFlu>so yeah, you need to follow the redirect on the proxy side instead of passing it to the client
04:08:54  <msyoder>When I log the res from mongo on my server it has the jit.su hostname. That last git is my resp header and code from Mongo.
04:09:00  <msyoder>gist
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04:10:08  <msyoder>ah, perhaps it uses the referer address.
04:10:59  <msyoder>which would work for a normal proxy, but jit.su rejects all other ports.
04:11:22  <msyoder>Thanks for the help. I think I can work this out.
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04:18:31  <AvianFlu>cool
04:18:48  <AvianFlu>I'll be around for a little bit longer if you need any more help
04:19:12  <AvianFlu>there aren't any support people in IRC tonight, but there will be more people back around in ~8 hours or so if you need more help after that
04:20:45  <msyoder>Thanks AvianFlu this is fun stuff. Have a good night.
04:20:48  * AvianFlutopic: Nodejitsu | Cloud Status: https://status.jit.su/ | None of our support engineers will be available by IRC for another few hours - please email [email protected] for help in the meantime
04:20:53  <AvianFlu>msyoder: you too :)
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05:05:03  <mikeumus>Hey Gang, having some trouble deploying our app.
05:05:21  <mikeumus>user: mikeumus app: inkwhy
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05:05:40  <mikeumus>should we maybe just delete the app and start fresh?
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05:08:10  <mikeumus>the gist: https://gist.github.com/4481378
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05:10:06  <Sly>mikeumus: did you change the version in the package.json?
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05:11:53  <mikeumus>0.2.2-65 was changed by jitsu I believe
05:12:26  <mikeumus>but at some point someone may have changed stuff (vague sorry I don't know what was changed exactly)
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05:12:51  <mikeumus>0.2.2-65 is the same version of the latest snapshot I beleive
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05:13:18  <Sly>Well, I know that downgrades in version will cause errors such as that..
05:13:25  <Sly>Because then it looks at the app as a different app..
05:13:30  <Sly>Since the version was downgraded..
05:13:46  <mikeumus>so should I just delete the app and start over?
05:13:53  <mikeumus>that's fine with us
05:13:58  <Sly>Not sure why it would be giving you that error unless something was changed in package.json.
05:14:09  <Sly>But yeah, destroying and redeploying should fix it.
05:14:21  <Sly>Although, you shouldn't *need* to destroy it to update the subdomain.
05:14:22  <mikeumus>I mean not start app-dev over but just re-deploy as a new app
05:14:29  <Sly>Yeah, I know.
05:15:10  <mikeumus>are you saying giving it a new subdomain will do the trick too?
05:15:17  <mikeumus>or the destroy cmd is at hand?
05:15:26  <mikeumus>r w/e that cmd is
05:15:30  <mikeumus>or*
05:15:34  <Sly>Well, what I was saying is.. you should be able to change the subdomain without having to destroy and recreate the app..
05:15:47  <Sly>But if you also like.. downgrade the version, it'll look at the app as a completely different app..
05:16:05  <mikeumus>ok
05:16:27  <Sly>And yeah.. 0.2.2-65 is the latest snapshot.. so that shouldn't be it.
05:16:58  <mikeumus>so manually edit package.json to something like 0.2.0 and then maybe give it a new subdomain to boot?
05:17:23  <mikeumus>and then jitsu depploy again?
05:17:27  <Sly>If you want to downgrade it to 0.2.0, sure.
05:17:27  <mikeumus>deploy*
05:17:42  <Sly>That's the way you would have to do it in order to downgrade.
05:17:54  <mikeumus>downgrad as into a snapshot or... what does that word mean exactly?
05:18:06  <Sly>Downgrade as in.. version downgrade.
05:18:10  <mikeumus>ok
05:18:49  <Sly>What subdomain did you try using?
05:19:35  <mikeumus>whyink-2
05:19:44  <mikeumus>it used to be just whyink
05:19:50  <mikeumus>maybe that's waht's wrong
05:20:03  <Sly>Yeah. That's an available domain, so it shouldn't be giving that error.
05:20:13  <mikeumus>interesting
05:20:42  <Sly>Very.
05:21:17  <mikeumus>yeah this app has been in funky-land the last couple days
05:21:41  <mikeumus>that's why my first suggestion was to kill it before it grew legs
05:22:00  <Sly>rofl
05:22:01  <mikeumus>mmalecki: spent some time auditing it the other day
05:22:18  <mikeumus>8)
05:22:38  <mikeumus>let's see what the downgrade->deploy does though, fingers crossed
05:23:30  <Sly>Just be sure to destroy the old one first, and it should be fine.
05:23:38  <mikeumus>alright
05:23:41  <mikeumus>lol
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05:46:32  <dimsumjamie>Hi there. Anyone familiar with winston logging?
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05:51:24  <AvianFlu>dimsumjamie: what do you want to know?
05:53:15  <dimsumjamie>A silly question probably - but I want to set my default console logger to suppress log.debug messages - unless I have an config/commandline override.
05:53:33  <dimsumjamie>I can't see in the docs how to specify different actions depending on log level inside a transport.
05:56:38  <Sly>https://github.com/flatiron/winston#logging-levels
05:58:39  <dimsumjamie>So I have to create a custom Console logger than lists every level apart from debug?
05:59:40  <mmalecki>someone pinged me?
05:59:46  <Sly>I'm guessing so, dimsumjamie.
05:59:51  <Sly>mmalecki: someone was just saying you looked into something earlier.
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06:00:12  <Sly>dimsumjamie: I don't see a way to explicitly disallow something from being logged. Looks like you have to explicitly allow it instead.
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06:01:26  <dimsumjamie>Thanks Sly. I guess I'll just pepper the code with if (app.debug)'s then.
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06:08:08  <mikeumus>yeah sorry about that mmalecki was just trying to tab your name out
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06:09:07  <mikeumus>so I deleted the app and deployed new and now in the webops UI I'm trying to start/activate and am getting this red dialog appear:
06:09:13  <mikeumus>Failure: Unknown failure
06:09:18  <Sly>O_o
06:09:22  <Sly>Have you tried from Jitsu?
06:10:54  <Sly>Actually.. You uploaded 0.2.0, right, mikeumus?
06:10:58  <mikeumus>I'll give that a go now
06:11:05  <mikeumus>I did
06:11:13  <mikeumus>after deleting the app
06:11:17  <Sly>One second.
06:11:32  <mikeumus>k
06:11:41  <Sly>Yeah. You hit a bad drone. Your snapshot is there.
06:12:11  <mikeumus>I'm seeing some DEBUG cache -1 -1 message in the logs that I've never seen before I don't think. Non of the other team members are around to tell me waht that is exactly
06:12:31  <mikeumus>our inkwhy app seems bad-drone-prone
06:12:36  <mikeumus>lol
06:13:01  <Sly>lol. It hit a socket hangup.
06:13:08  <mikeumus>okay so jitsu snapshots activate inkwhy then ?
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06:14:12  <Sly>mikeumus: yeah. One second, though. I tried to run it for you and got a socket hangup myself.
06:14:16  <Sly>Checking on it.
06:14:18  <mikeumus>ok
06:14:39  <mikeumus>thanks Sly
06:14:44  <mikeumus>8)
06:14:48  <Sly>No problem. :)
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06:15:32  <Sly>Tisk, tisk. Naughty drone.
06:15:33  <Sly>>:O
06:15:51  <mikeumus>>8)
06:29:18  <Sly>mikeumus: by the way.. use bundledDependencies in your package.json, not bundleDependencies.
06:29:23  <Sly>(Still looking into the errors.)
06:29:52  <mikeumus>thanks for catching that
06:30:48  <Sly>np
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06:55:14  <Sly>mikeumus: haven't forgot about you.
06:55:24  <mikeumus>oh I know 8p
06:55:35  <mikeumus>no worries
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07:13:41  <Sly>mikeumus: you're online.
07:13:51  <mikeumus>sweet!
07:13:59  <mikeumus>Thanks for getting through that Sly
07:14:14  <Sly>np
07:14:23  <Sly>Let us know if you need anything else. :)
07:14:45  <mikeumus>sure thing 8)
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07:16:15  <Sly>If you get socket hangups, keep trying it.. and make sure your local timeout is like.. super ridiculously high.
07:16:27  <Sly>We're working on a fix, but yeah. Won't be out tonight or in the next couple of days.
07:17:18  <mikeumus>sure np
07:17:45  <mikeumus>jitsu config set timeout 1000000
07:17:51  <mikeumus>it is?
07:18:01  <Sly>That should work.
07:18:04  <mikeumus>cool
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07:35:32  <alucardX>morning guys!
07:36:49  <Sly>Morning.
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08:27:40  <nathan7>'morning, earthlings
08:28:16  <mmalecki>hello
08:29:17  <nathan7>Oh hey, I have +v
08:29:18  <nathan7>coo'
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08:30:01  <nathan7>I really need to set up some email filters
08:30:09  <nathan7>My inbox is clogged with npm issues
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09:15:42  <yawnt>yar har deoxxa is here
09:16:50  <deoxxa>herro
09:17:01  <deoxxa>eta on plain tcp apps?
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09:17:55  <Sly>I know there's been talk about it, but I haven't heard of an exact ETA yet.
09:18:42  <deoxxa>:<
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09:31:09  <nathan7>Hey deoxxa
09:33:05  <deoxxa>sup, yo
09:34:05  <yawnt>https://gist.github.com/806967dc00f9acc8043a :(
09:34:13  <nathan7>deoxxa: nearly-having-a-job :D
09:34:15  <yawnt>i just drops connection
09:34:16  <yawnt>;_;
09:34:24  <yawnt>*it
09:34:32  <deoxxa>nathan7: SICK BRO
09:34:34  <deoxxa>nathan7: doing what?
09:35:21  <nathan7>deoxxa: hint, look left of my nick
09:35:33  <yawnt>13:35 ?
09:35:38  <dscape>rofl
09:35:52  <yawnt>(yes my vps is somewhere in asia)
09:35:58  <dscape>yawnt: that's really your PS1?
09:36:00  <dscape>omfg
09:36:02  <dscape>AHAH
09:36:05  <deoxxa>nathan7: oh lol, derp
09:36:08  <dscape>whats next? memes?
09:36:23  <yawnt>dscape: yeah it's my PS1, why?
09:36:29  <dscape>its hilarious
09:36:33  <yawnt>why? :(
09:36:37  <nathan7>deoxxa: :D
09:36:41  <dscape>╭-([email protected])
09:36:41  <dscape>╰─(~)> telnet localhost 8000
09:36:43  <dscape>LOL
09:36:46  <nathan7>It's one of the oh-my-zsh themes
09:36:51  <nathan7>I'm happy with agnoster
09:36:56  <yawnt>dscape: i like it :(
09:37:05  <yawnt>dscape: and i have all the nice plugins
09:37:11  <dscape>its hilarious
09:37:20  <yawnt>wait
09:37:24  <yawnt>i'll give you a screenshot
09:38:01  <nathan7>I added nave support to agnoster, I ought to pullreq that shit
09:38:51  <yawnt>http://i.imm.io/S77c.png <- dscape
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09:40:37  <jownwayne>hey any admin here who can show me a npm-debug.log?
09:41:56  <nathan7>dscape, yawnt: http://nathan7.eu/stuff/2013-01-08-104107_1366x768_scrot.png
09:41:57  <dscape>jownwayne: whats up?
09:42:16  <yawnt>nathan7: i'd never use that lol
09:42:20  <yawnt>2 lines ftw
09:42:22  <dscape>nathan7: seems like a fork from mine
09:42:24  <dscape>?
09:42:26  <jownwayne>@dscape trying to deploy a new version to nodejitsu but still getting a strange error
09:42:27  <dscape>looks good
09:42:35  <dscape>jownwayne: whats you subdomain?
09:43:01  <jownwayne>@dscope: https://developer.doctape.com/
09:43:10  <nathan7>dscape: I just meddled a bit with agnoster
09:43:38  <dscape>jownwayne: but whats your app name
09:43:42  <dscape>and username
09:43:45  <dscape>or the app subdomain
09:43:59  <jownwayne>@dscape is this thing logged to a web protocol somehow?
09:44:05  <yawnt>jownwayne: IRC
09:44:46  <jownwayne>@dscape lets switch over to pn
09:44:47  <dscape>jownwayne you can dm me the details if you like
09:44:55  <dscape>but i cant help without them
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11:35:13  <JonnyTurk>Any timescales for the business plans ?
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11:48:22  <dscape>JonnyTurk: they will come out soon
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12:07:57  <JonnyTurk>@dscape U would make a good politician ;-)
12:08:16  <dscape>JonnyTurk: I know the date, and its really soon
12:08:32  <dscape>but we depend on upstream IaaS provider to set up our environment
12:08:40  <JonnyTurk>Less than a month ?
12:08:48  <dscape>if all goes well, yes
12:08:54  <JonnyTurk>Yeahhhhh!
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12:09:15  <dscape>as i said, we depend on IaaS which slows us down
12:09:20  <dscape>but we are working on it as fast as we can
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12:10:08  <JonnyTurk>Thanks for the update, will report back to the company..
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12:29:39  <Nodejitsu-Github>nodejitsu-api/cloud 3f67393 3rd-Eden: [refactor] Have the `upload` method use the same API signature as the `request` method....
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13:55:07  <robmozart>why is redis to go currently inactive?
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14:05:01  <arush>does jitsu deploy re-download all the dependencies?
14:05:42  <`3rdEden>arush: yes, unless you set the dependencies as bundledDependencies
14:05:48  <arush>`3rdEden, cool
14:05:59  <`3rdEden>robmozart: their API is broken
14:06:15  <robmozart>i see
14:06:26  <arush>`3rdEden, i recognise your handle, you used to take part in node knockout, right?
14:06:33  <`3rdEden>arush: yep
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14:07:51  <`3rdEden>I entered in the NKO 2010 and 2011, won the first place 2011 in the categories solo, overall and utility
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14:08:37  <rmill>how the heck do you run forever with additional node flags?
14:08:40  <rmill>--harmony
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14:12:37  <`3rdEden>rmill: have you tried forever start --harmony?
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14:14:46  <rmill>yeah
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14:15:42  <rmill>`3rdEden: that triggers the help menu
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14:15:57  <rmill>`forever start --harmony script.js`
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15:30:22  <defunctzombie>what is the recommended way to have a production and a staging deployment?
15:30:33  <defunctzombie>just two separately named apps?
15:30:40  <defunctzombie>or is there some pattern that would be good to follow?
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15:36:57  <dscape>defunctzombie: for now two separate apps and dns
15:37:17  <dscape>if you have a better suggestion please let us know
15:37:51  <dscape>also reach out to anoemi i think she is creating an environment to capture customer feedback :)
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15:38:42  <defunctzombie>dscape: cool, will do :)
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15:38:54  <anoemi>defunctzombie: O HAI
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15:39:31  <defunctzombie>anoemi: sup dog
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15:53:38  <anoemi>defunctzombie: not too much
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15:55:02  <anoemi>defunctzombie: the environment that dscape mentioned isnt public yet, but if you have a good idea for staging, you know where to find me :)
15:55:42  <defunctzombie>indeed I do
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16:08:46  <arush>why does it take so long to download logs?
16:09:00  <arush>is there no quicker interface?
16:09:15  <arush>like to access it from terminal or something quicker?
16:09:25  <arush>would be great if you can livestream logging to my terminal
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16:14:23  <cronopio>arush: the logs are handled using a service called loggy, sometimes this service come slow and is not just instant. The team are working very hard to improve that
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16:14:44  <arush>cronopio, it is my least favourite thing about nodejitsu
16:15:49  <AvianFlu>arush: we've got a new system nearly ready to go, we'll be rolling it out in the next few weeks
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16:16:00  <arush>AvianFlu, oh thank god
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16:25:52  <nathan7>Laggly!
16:26:13  <cronopio>lol
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17:13:54  <dennis_>hello. was ne1 able to take a nodejitsu hosted app as an facebook-app?
17:14:31  <dennis_>i jitsu installed a simple hello world
17:14:41  <dennis_>deployed it
17:14:59  <dennis_>works in browser
17:15:21  <dennis_>but doesnt load as tab in FB
17:16:20  <cronopio>dennis_: normally you need to setup your app with the config provided by FB, like APP key and others configs
17:16:55  <cronopio>dennis_: also, use valid info when create the app en FB, perhaps URL
17:19:11  <dennis_>wow. i now can see the app as an tab in FB
17:19:33  <cronopio>dennis_: cool!
17:19:50  <dennis_>i changed the url in browser to https and accepted the cert
17:20:09  <dennis_>afterwards it also loads in FB
17:20:25  <dennis_>i like to try that again with an express-template
17:20:40  <cronopio>both connection need to be in same protocol, like connection with FB and FB to your app
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17:23:10  <dennis_>they are. also the url to jit.su in the FB-App settings are https
17:23:30  <dennis_>i will try again with the express-setup
17:23:36  <dennis_>tnx cronopio
17:24:01  <cronopio>dennis_: is a pleasure, come here any time :-)
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17:37:44  <defunctzombie>is it ok to write to /tmp on the jitsu servers?
17:37:50  <defunctzombie>or do apps have their own TMP location?
17:37:54  <defunctzombie>and if so how do I get that?
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17:41:15  <defunctzombie>nathan7: and if I write to /tmp ?
17:41:28  <defunctzombie>will it work or will I get permission errors?
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17:42:25  <nathan7>I'm uncertain and can't test at the moment
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17:50:39  <nathan7>defunctzombie: Yep, works fine
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17:50:43  <defunctzombie>cool
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18:07:16  <defunctzombie>when I deploy, can override the app name?
18:07:22  <defunctzombie>or is package.json used always
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18:10:05  <blakmatrix>how's everybody doin' up in here?
18:11:16  <cronopio>blakmatrix: very good!! how about you?
18:11:44  <AvianFlu>defunctzombie: it uses the name in the package.json
18:12:05  <blakmatrix>cronopio: aww you know... winter in seattle, grey and rainy
18:13:02  <cronopio>blakmatrix: oh, Im on a very hot city called Cali in Colombia and its very sunny today
18:13:13  <julian_duque>blakmatrix: everything is good here.. enjoying a big shinny sun with 86 ° F
18:13:17  <blakmatrix>nice
18:13:33  <julian_duque>cronopio: are you still in Cali, great!
18:14:05  <cronopio>julian_duque: yes, enjoying the sun :D
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18:14:09  <Nodejitsu-Github>[nodejitsu-api] 3rd-Eden pushed 2 new commits to cloud: http://git.io/CT2IEQ
18:14:09  <Nodejitsu-Github>nodejitsu-api/cloud 59fbcb4 3rd-Eden: [fix] Re-adding deleted start call. The progress bar should be working again nao.
18:14:09  <Nodejitsu-Github>nodejitsu-api/cloud 1323892 3rd-Eden: [api] Add a dedicated method for handling multiple clouds...
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18:14:40  <defunctzombie>AvianFlu: http://imgur.com/r/funny/NPo4R
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18:16:44  <AvianFlu>defunctzombie: that's a thing of beauty, right there.
18:16:54  <defunctzombie>I figured you would like that
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18:49:58  <blakmatrix>How's everybody doing?
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18:55:49  <Nodejitsu-Github>nodejitsu-api/cloud e161d44 3rd-Eden: [minor] try to warm up and refresh the endpoints when ever possible
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19:00:20  <juliangruber>hey. i'm getting this error: ENOENT open '/opt/haibu/apps/juliangruber/coloredco.de/package/views/'. could it be that 'views' isn't there? already tried installing my app locally via npm and it works there
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19:02:29  <blakmatrix>juliangruber: let me take a look
19:03:59  <juliangruber>@blakmatrix: thanks
19:05:47  <blakmatrix>juliangruber: those directories exist on both drones you are running, can you gist me the full error output
19:07:14  <juliangruber>@blakmatrix: hm, the thing is, I get weird error messages and can't reproduct them on my machine. there is template code in them oO will have a look at my error handling...
19:07:50  <blakmatrix>juliangruber: do you generate these views?
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19:11:38  <juliangruber>@blakmatrix: nope. I think, it's trying to load a wrong view, the full error is: https://gist.github.com/ed4f26758b52e04c3fdc. so I guess it's my code.
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19:14:38  <blakmatrix>juliangruber: Ah, looks like there is some disonnect there where its expecting an html file
19:16:44  <mmalecki>jan____: https://npmjs.org/package/ircb - I published that library I added you to back in the days
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19:27:07  <blakmatrix>How's everybody doing?
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19:31:44  <nathan7>blakmatrix: pretty good I think
19:32:23  <blakmatrix>nathan7: what could make it better?
19:33:05  <nathan7>Working earphones q=
19:34:56  <yawnt>and bacon
19:34:59  <yawnt>definitely bacon
19:36:29  <juliangruber>@blakmatrix: oh, I am able to reproduce, it happens when NODE_ENV=production
19:36:41  <juliangruber>@blakmatrix: thanks
19:37:39  <blakmatrix>yawnt: damn you, damn you for reminding me of that tasty salty delicacy
19:38:45  <jan____>mmalecki: saw i on twitter :)
19:38:47  <yawnt>inorite
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19:45:44  <blakmatrix>nathan7: why u no have working headphones?
19:45:54  <mmalecki>jan____: cool :)
19:46:02  <mmalecki>people seem to like the API
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19:47:19  <nathan7>blakmatrix: because all of them break
19:47:27  <nathan7>blakmatrix: I listen to music and fall asleep
19:47:45  <nathan7>blakmatrix: and cause the wires to internally fracture
19:48:21  <blakmatrix>I have an aversion to headphones/earbuds when i sleep... causes my ears to hurt since i sleep on my sides
19:48:37  <blakmatrix>just play a radio lol
19:49:06  <nathan7>I'm not supposed to be awake
19:49:10  <nathan7>I can't just make noise
19:49:15  <defunctzombie>mongohq or mongolab?
19:49:17  <nathan7>or my parents will come and shout at me
19:50:41  <blakmatrix>defunctzombie: either or, HQ offers slightly mor storage if your using jitsu to create an instance
19:51:45  <blakmatrix>nathan7: yeah my wife doesnt like music either, and I am hard of hearing so its a no win situation for me for trying to fall asleep with music
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20:00:18  <blakmatrix>is anyone havving issues?
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20:05:47  <coti>any news about 0$ checking method issue ?
20:06:00  <mmalecki>coti: yeah, can you try now?
20:06:06  <mmalecki>we enabled this with out provider
20:06:37  <mmalecki>you should now be charged with $ 1 which will be returned to your account afterwards if your bank declines the $ 0 charge
20:06:38  <coti>just a second to retry, but i thing my creditcard is empty :)
20:06:59  <coti>great :D
20:07:16  <mmalecki>works?
20:08:46  <coti>no, as i said my card is empty.
20:08:54  <coti>i'll try back tomorrow
20:09:03  <mmalecki>ah :). hit me up when you can test it
20:09:39  <coti>sure. i'm also excited to add a plan. can't wait! can't wait !
20:09:40  <coti>haha
20:09:51  <mmalecki>coti: what's your nodejitsu username?
20:09:58  <coti>coti
20:10:05  <mmalecki>okay, give me a second :)
20:11:31  <coti>sure, what you're doing ;)
20:12:00  <coti>it's alive !
20:12:44  <coti>thank you a lot mmalecki
20:12:45  <mmalecki>:)
20:12:55  <mmalecki>at any rate, please do give it a try tomorrow
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20:14:05  <coti>i will, same place, same hour
20:15:08  <coti>thank you one more time. great day there ;)
20:16:12  <mmalecki>pleasure :)
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20:36:02  <blakmatrix>How is everybody doing need anyhelp
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21:12:30  <nmanousos>hi - I am getting ECONNREFUSED errors on my apps, is there someone I can talk with about this?
21:12:41  <blakmatrix>nmanousos: hi
21:12:47  <nmanousos>hi!
21:13:00  <nmanousos>i have been getting them off and on
21:13:08  <blakmatrix>what exactly the issue walk me through the steps of what your tryign to do
21:13:09  <nmanousos>i have to keep checking my apps to make sure they are up
21:13:13  <nmanousos>and when they crash like this, i retstart them
21:13:23  <blakmatrix>k
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21:13:34  <blakmatrix>is ther one you havent restarted yet?
21:13:37  <nmanousos>no
21:13:41  <nmanousos>thats kinda the problem
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21:13:46  <nmanousos>i can't afford to leave it crashed
21:13:48  <blakmatrix>what is the last on you restarted?
21:13:53  <nmanousos>ultraseo
21:14:03  <blakmatrix>username same as irc?
21:14:04  <nmanousos>i just restarted it a minute ago
21:14:09  <nmanousos>yes
21:14:20  <blakmatrix>k taking a look
21:14:27  <nmanousos>i know its probably some error handling i am not doing correctly in the app, but shouldn't it restart itself?
21:14:58  <nmanousos>with this happening, i am super paranoid, if i were to be away from my computer for a weekend and my app crashed, it would be a disaster for me
21:15:03  <nmanousos>since they aren't restarting themselves
21:15:32  <nmanousos>thanks for looking into it :)
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21:24:39  <blakmatrix>nmanousos: I see what happened, there is a bug in our systems we are trying to track down, but basically what happens is on a deploy or new start the old drone sticks around and causes problems, it looks like you had a more unusual case and accrued several drones t your app before the last restart fixed it...
21:24:58  <nmanousos>ok
21:24:58  <blakmatrix>nmanousos: can you explain to me what your last 3-4 actions with this app were ?
21:25:12  <nmanousos>jitsu deploys
21:25:14  <nmanousos>thats it
21:25:21  <nmanousos>just code changes, and deploys
21:26:48  <nmanousos>i just want to not be super paranoid about having to restart my apps all the time
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21:28:32  <blakmatrix>nmanousos: thanks, if you see this happen again after a deploy, run `jitsu start` and that should drop that bad drone. I am gonna be investigating this further seeing if i can't track this bug down
21:28:45  <nmanousos>thanks
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21:29:02  <nmanousos>i am thinking of setting up a monitoring service for this, any recommendations?
21:29:11  <nmanousos>like something to ping my apps every minute to ensure they are up
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21:30:48  <blakmatrix>nmanousos: there was uptime.jit.su , but I'm not sure if that guy has it for personal reasons or not
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21:31:01  <nmanousos>k
21:31:18  <nmanousos>but you're saying things like this shouldnt happen so much in the future?
21:31:27  <nmanousos>apps should auto-restart, right?
21:31:45  <blakmatrix>no definately not, this is a recent bug that were trackign down
21:31:48  <mmalecki>nmanousos: apps do auto-restart
21:31:55  <blakmatrix>yeah apps do that already
21:32:02  <nmanousos>except that mine didn't...
21:32:18  <mmalecki>but we seem to have a bug affecting provisioning/gathering data from slave servers which makes it not register in our infrastructure properly
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21:32:31  <mmalecki>nmanousos: what port are you listening on, ooc?
21:32:37  <nmanousos>80
21:32:40  <nmanousos>i think?
21:32:44  <nmanousos>not sure
21:32:47  <mmalecki>ahhh... can you double check?
21:32:49  <nmanousos>it seems like there is a bug which makes apps not auto-restart
21:32:53  <mmalecki>this might be related
21:33:19  <blakmatrix>this issue here is that one of the drones that gets decommissioned doesn't detatch from your app, so the new drone and the invalid drone get balanced for your app
21:33:30  <mmalecki>^
21:33:34  <nmanousos>which means... it doesnt restart
21:33:48  <nmanousos>i use process.env.PORT || 3000 for my port
21:34:00  <mmalecki>hm, okay, that should be fine that
21:34:04  <mmalecki>*then
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21:35:36  <nmanousos>next time this happens, what should i do?
21:35:47  <nmanousos>is there something I can do that would help you guys track down the cause easier?
21:36:14  <mmalecki>nmanousos: just ping us, it'll be easier to find in logs
21:36:42  <nmanousos>and is it ok to restart the app myself before pinging you guys?
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21:37:38  <blakmatrix>nmanousos: run `jitsu start` that seems to clear the issue up
21:37:55  <nmanousos>ok
21:38:01  <nmanousos>i love everything about nodejitsu
21:38:04  <nmanousos>except this issue
21:38:30  <blakmatrix>understandable, we are trackign it down, hope to get it fixed very soon
21:38:37  <nmanousos>so, i wish you guys the best of luck in tracking it down :)
21:38:44  <nmanousos>thanks!
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22:04:36  <blakmatrix>How is everybody doing?
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22:29:01  <rickibalboa>Great, I have a question though. Will my app always be at the same ip address every time it starts? If it only has one drone
22:29:26  <mmalecki>rickibalboa: no
22:29:28  <blakmatrix>rickibalboa: sorta... there are 8 ips we balance with
22:29:45  <mmalecki>rickibalboa: you shouldn't connect to your application by an IP
22:29:48  <mmalecki>why do you need it?
22:29:59  <rickibalboa>I'm not connecting to it
22:31:19  <mmalecki>rickibalboa: why do you need to know the IP, then?
22:31:43  <mmalecki>if it's for setting up a custom domain, see dns.jit.su
22:31:44  <rickibalboa>Hmm, hard to explain. Some sort of whitelist
22:31:53  <mmalecki>ah, outgoing IP?
22:31:56  <rickibalboa>Yeah
22:32:07  <mmalecki>blakmatrix: you had a list of those somewhere, didn't you?
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22:32:43  <rickibalboa>I have a series of apps opening connections, obviously if the apps are in different places the connections are going to have different ips
22:33:14  <rickibalboa>I'm considering just running all that traffic through my own tunnel so it looks like it's all in the same place.
22:33:31  <mmalecki>outgoing IPs are actually constant - they are going through joyent's outer nodes
22:35:19  <blakmatrix>rickibalboa: 165.225.134.101, 165.225.134.102, 165.225.134.103, 165.225.134.104
22:35:41  <rickibalboa>Hmm okay, so help me out here. I have an app opening a few connections to other systems, these systems need to verify the integrity by checking it's from the correct IP. Are these connections going to be bound to certain ips? ^ Those ones?
22:36:20  <mmalecki>yeah
22:36:52  <rickibalboa>Ahh that makes my life easier, will it be random per connection, regardless of what node it's on? Or could I force it to be on a certain IP?
22:37:09  <rickibalboa>node/drone/server whatever
22:37:19  <blakmatrix>just assume it'll be random
22:37:26  <rickibalboa>Okay
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22:45:34  <st_luke>mmalecki: nice irc lib
22:46:05  <mmalecki>st_luke: thanks :)
22:46:27  <mmalecki>I was aiming for nice APIs
22:47:11  <mmalecki>st_luke: it's actually a base for my secretary IRC bot which'll soon be released
22:47:35  <mmalecki>it can text people and all that
22:47:40  <st_luke>sounds awesome
22:49:14  <mmalecki>yeah, it is
22:49:23  <mmalecki>still working on receiving texts :)
22:50:00  <mmalecki>so I can like, text her: "say #nodejitsu I'm not showing up for work today"
22:51:09  <st_luke>lmao
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22:57:56  <st_luke>mmalecki: you should give it drunk mode so when you try to say something while drunk it challenges you with a riddle that you would be able to solve sober
22:58:10  <mmalecki>I do approve of this
22:58:17  <mmalecki>detecting drunkness is really easy
22:58:32  <st_luke>for me it would be, basically it is just caps lock
22:58:48  <mmalecki>haha, same
23:03:17  <rickibalboa>Is there an ability to have my own outgoing ip addresses that I can bind to? Or maybe in the future/or in business plans?
23:04:28  <mmalecki>rickibalboa: it's not planned yet
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23:04:31  <blakmatrix>rickibalboa: currently no, in the future, it maybe be possible with business plans
23:05:34  <rickibalboa>Ok cool, i'll definitely be getting involved in that if you decide to support it then. I'm leaning towards tunneling my traffic so it's coming from one ip address at the moment.
23:07:26  <rickibalboa>On the up side i'm absolutely loving nodejitsu and the support i'm getting here as opposed to #heroku. I think my app will definitely be living here. Well done guys
23:07:49  <mmalecki><3
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