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00:24:47  <blakmatrix>anyone need some help?
00:29:53  <CoverSlide>blakmatrix: bored?
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00:30:27  <CoverSlide>I say restart a couple apps and see who shows up
00:30:47  <mmalecki>lol
00:30:55  <blakmatrix>no LOL just wanting to make sure no ones running around with thier hair on fire :)
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01:13:35  <defunctzombie>When I try to set an environ variable for an app that doesn't exist it fails
01:13:42  <defunctzombie>however, I don't want to deploy my app before I set the vars
01:13:51  <defunctzombie>or is there a way to deploy but not start?
01:14:09  <coderarity>you probably need to create an app
01:14:32  <mmalecki>`jitsu apps create`
01:15:01  <defunctzombie>ah, that isn't in the jitsu apps help
01:15:11  <coderarity>yeah
01:15:14  <coderarity>i saw that too
01:15:28  <mmalecki>oh wow, nice...
01:15:34  <mmalecki>I'll create an issue now
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01:34:38  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] mmalecki pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/V-NEuQ
01:34:38  <Nodejitsu-Github>jitsu/master 6d81f19 Maciej Małecki: [doc bin] Document `jitsu apps create`...
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01:34:42  <mmalecki>coderarity: defunctzombie is documented now ^
01:34:52  <defunctzombie>nice
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01:36:04  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/compare/d35f60e5d69a...6d81f19c5a9c
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04:02:51  <ArxPoetica>hey guyz so are the mongo/redis providers you offer on the lower accounts just sandboxes?
04:02:55  <ArxPoetica>not production ready?
04:03:12  <coderarity>they're on sandboxes
04:03:17  <coderarity>i mean
04:03:26  <coderarity>they're full databases, but on the free tier
04:03:47  <coderarity>ArxPoetica: you probably want to register for a database on their website
04:03:58  <coderarity>it's the same databases there
04:04:03  <ArxPoetica>for production.
04:04:15  <ArxPoetica>hmmm...
04:04:29  <ArxPoetica>what if it's an app that we know will only be used by 30 people at any given time?
04:04:44  <coderarity>for that type of stuff, i'd stick with the free tier
04:04:48  <ArxPoetica>ok
04:05:04  <Sly>As far as I know, they don't limit based on connections.. but rather how much data you store.
04:05:12  <coderarity>if you're running into limits though, just upgade on the respective services website
04:05:17  <ArxPoetica>I see.
04:05:43  <coderarity>ArxPoetica: redis ones might have connection limits
04:05:51  <coderarity>i think redistogo has a 10 connection limit
04:05:57  <coderarity>but if you only have 1 drone, that should be fine
04:06:17  <ArxPoetica>yeah, they have a connection limit
04:06:32  <ArxPoetica>I was running into problems with that earlier with you guys, but I think you fixed it
04:06:42  <ArxPoetica>(there was no way to cancel connections)
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04:18:40  <nmanousos>my app has crashed anad is not restarting..
04:18:46  <nmanousos>anyone around that can take a look?
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04:19:00  <coderarity>nmanousos: what's your username and appname?
04:19:10  <nmanousos>nmanousos
04:19:11  <nmanousos>coolcron
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04:20:27  <Costa>Getting a pretty consistent error, not sure how to troubleshoot it: https://gist.github.com/1ed5a0dc2bbf105aa96b
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04:22:42  <nmanousos>i see this in the logs
04:22:43  <nmanousos>[01/08 20:00:26 PST] FATAL ERROR: Evacuation [01/08 20:00:26 PST] Allocation failed - process out of memory
04:22:52  <nmanousos>this is the 2nd time today
04:23:09  <nmanousos>why doesn't the app restart itself?
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04:23:36  <nmanousos>i love nodejitsu but this is not sustainable. I literally am checking my app constantly, all day to make sure it hasn't crashed
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04:25:55  <coderari1y>nmanousos: looks like it's running out of process memory
04:26:02  <nmanousos>yeh, looks like that to me as well
04:26:08  <nmanousos>why doesn't it restart itself?
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04:28:01  <mmalecki>nmanousos: I'm looking at it. with those OOMs it's possible that it didn't actually exit the process.
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04:28:26  <nmanousos>please convince me why I should stick with nodejitsu
04:28:33  <nmanousos>this happens a lot
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04:31:43  <mmalecki>nmanousos: what we should figure out first is why your application keeps OOM'ing
04:32:01  <nmanousos>i disagree
04:32:09  <nmanousos>if it crashes, it needs to restart automatically
04:32:09  <mmalecki>in other cases, applications do restart automatically
04:32:15  <mmalecki>you can verify that easily
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04:32:48  <nmanousos>sure, I could - but that doesn't help me out
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04:33:07  <nmanousos>i need my apps to restart when they crash, simple as that
04:34:21  <mmalecki>nmanousos: just a second. it's the ECONNREFUSED problem?
04:34:27  <nmanousos>yes
04:34:37  <nmanousos>coolcron.jit.su
04:34:50  <mmalecki>okay, this is helpful
04:35:00  <nmanousos>when my app is crashed and stays crashed, i am losing $
04:35:21  <AvianFlu>nmanousos: what does your app do
04:35:22  <nmanousos>im sure you can understand, i am stressed about this
04:35:46  <nmanousos>it doesnt matter what it does, all that matters is that when it crashes, it should restart itself
04:36:04  <AvianFlu>nmanousos: when I'm looking at an app that isn't behaving like most apps on our platform, it matters what it does
04:36:13  <AvianFlu>I want to know the situation
04:36:15  <AvianFlu>and what's going on
04:36:31  <AvianFlu>what are you building?
04:36:43  <nmanousos>it is a cron process that looks at mongohq entries
04:37:07  <nmanousos>i know that my code is not perfect
04:37:17  <nmanousos>i know that i am not handling errors correctly
04:37:42  <AvianFlu>what do you mean specifically when you say 'cron process'?
04:37:48  <AvianFlu>I'm just trying to understand
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04:38:07  <nmanousos>every hour, it analyzes a mongohq
04:38:09  <nmanousos>db
04:38:21  <nmanousos>it runs node-cron to do that hourly
04:38:27  <AvianFlu>okay
04:38:46  <AvianFlu>and what about the web side
04:38:51  <AvianFlu>what's the frontend like
04:39:02  <Costa>Would love some help when someone gets a moment. My app won't deploy. http://creativespace.jit.su https://gist.github.com/1ed5a0dc2bbf105aa96b
04:39:12  <coderarity>Costa: i'll check it out
04:39:29  <Costa>coderarity: Thanks!!
04:40:04  <coderarity>Costa: can you gist me app.js, line 35? and maybe a few lines before/after that, whatever's relevant
04:40:05  <julian_duque>Costa: you are adding a bad callback to a get method in your express app
04:40:20  <julian_duque>Costa: line 35 of your app.js file
04:40:37  <nmanousos>there is no front end to the app
04:41:07  <julian_duque>Costa: it expects a function but you are passing something undefined.. maybe a typo i guess
04:41:09  <AvianFlu>nmanousos: you have something responding to HTTP requests, though, no?
04:41:24  <nmanousos>yes, but the only reason it is there is so that it will run on nodejitsu
04:41:34  <nmanousos>this app does not need any http support at all
04:41:37  <Costa>coderarity: https://gist.github.com/009bb6fefda5b7f73013
04:41:45  <AvianFlu>right
04:41:50  <nmanousos>it checks a db hourly, and sends out emails using sendgrid if needed
04:41:57  <coderarity>Costa: which one's line 35?
04:42:16  <Costa>julian_duque: That's fair, those are old routes that don't exist anymore so the function is failing
04:42:34  <Costa>Thanks so much! Where did you see line 35 of app.js in the error stack?
04:42:36  <julian_duque>Costa: comment out the code and try again
04:42:43  <Costa>wait still didn't deploy
04:42:54  <julian_duque>Costa: in line 24 on the gist
04:42:54  <nmanousos>did someone restart it? or did it restart itself?
04:43:10  <coderarity>Costa: it's line 24
04:43:17  <mmalecki>nmanousos: I restarted it to see how balancer reacts to it
04:43:27  <mmalecki>eliminated balancer error
04:43:37  <Costa>https://gist.github.com/a2233a81b6b2c6dfbb78
04:43:40  <mmalecki>and got to some interesting stuff in app server
04:43:43  <Costa>Now there's a rackspace error
04:43:49  <coderarity>Costa: run `jitsu start`
04:44:21  <Costa>Thanks! I totally missed that in the trace.
04:44:50  <Costa>same error
04:45:13  <nmanousos>is this going to keep happening?
04:45:13  <coderarity>Costa: on `jitsu start`? well, try depoying again then
04:46:13  <mmalecki>nmanousos: I'm looking at it - it appears that haibu didn't apply its usual autostart procedures (where it creates autostart files for specific drones) and your app didn't get started
04:47:16  <coderarity>deploying*
04:47:16  <Costa>coderarity: Tried deploying again, here's the error: https://gist.github.com/81a6e2fa2d61457da918
04:48:07  <nmanousos>mmalecki: I'm sure you can understand from my perspective - this happens a lot. when i come on irc and ask, it's fixed, and there's an excuse as to why it happened
04:48:19  <nmanousos>i would like for at some point it to stop happening all together
04:48:31  <mmalecki>nmanousos: yup, working on that currently
04:48:45  <mmalecki>on a related note, does anyone know if Buffer allocs lazily?
04:48:55  <mmalecki>need to fill up 256 MB of memory ._.
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04:49:16  <coderarity>Costa: what's your username?
04:49:35  <coderarity>oh, nvm, found it
04:49:54  <nmanousos>mmalecki: sorry to be an ass about this - just really stressed about it
04:50:15  <Costa>wamoyo
04:50:50  <coderarity>Costa: alright, give `jitsu start` another try
04:51:18  <Costa>coderarity: whoops, I deployed
04:51:32  <Costa>I hope that doesn't trip things up
04:51:34  <mmalecki>nmanousos: deploying a tool to make sure it's up for you
04:51:45  <coderarity>Costa: nah, it won't. did it work?
04:52:06  <Costa>coderarity: Yes, actually, at least my terminal says it does. What happened?
04:52:28  <nmanousos>thank you
04:52:52  <coderarity>Costa: sometimes, there's significant lag between when we upload the snapshot to rackspace and when rackspace actually serves the snapshot
04:53:03  <coderarity>so while you're deploying, it thinks it's not there due to that lag
04:53:10  <mmalecki>nmanousos: any other apps which experience that?
04:53:19  <nmanousos>all of mine
04:53:27  <Costa>coderarity: Ah, hmmm... so can I initiate those commands seperately?
04:53:32  <coderarity>usually `jitsu start` fixes it, because the snapshot is uploaded by then. idk why it didn't, but I was just checking to make sure the snapshot uploaded
04:53:55  <coderarity>Costa: yeah, so basically if you `jitsu deploy`, it'll do the first part, and if you see a rackspace 404, `jitsu start` will do the second part again
04:54:34  <coderarity>why it didn't work that one time? I guess we just didn't wait long enough :D
04:54:50  <Costa>coderarity: Okay, good to know! Thanks. I've been having pretty frequent trouble, nothing unmanageable so far, but we're going to have enterprise customers using our sites soon. When would you expect things to start to become more reliable?
04:54:54  <julian_duque>coderarity: that could be fixed in jitsu handling that Rackspace error and then do a jitsu start?
04:55:15  <Costa>coderarity: I realize node isn't even 1.0 yet : )
04:55:30  <coderarity>Costa: well, we're working on it
04:55:49  <coderarity>Costa: if you're running enterprise stuff, you probably want to go to business plans when they come out, though :D
04:56:53  <coderarity>julian_duque: i suppose it could, but it's kind of a hack, and would take a while (also, we don't know exactly how long the lag is, it's not predictable by any means, hence Costa's problem)
04:57:14  <Costa>coderarity: I'm happy to pay more, but it would be nice if I could be up 99% of the time, you know?
04:58:00  <coderarity>Costa: running apps aren't affected by this. the main thing that affects running apps is memory leaks and such, when a drone runs out of memory, and we do restart the app when that happens
04:58:17  <coderarity>Costa: and when a deploy fails, it won't affect your running app
04:59:46  <Costa>coderarity: Yep, I'm aware. In the past I've had apps crash (JavaScript error, mistake in my code). I suppose that's why you have priority support and such
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05:00:06  <Costa>coderarity: I'm a team of one, lol, so it's really tough to pump out error free code, you know?
05:00:39  <coderarity>Costa: yeah
05:00:52  <coderarity>Costa: best thing I can suggest is add tests :D
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05:02:12  <Costa>coderarity: Thanks, I really should!
05:02:23  <Costa>coderarity: I appreciate the help, you guys are always great!
05:03:27  <coderarity>Costa: come back if you have any more problems :D
05:03:46  <Costa>coderarity: You got it, don't stay up too late.
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05:04:08  <coderarity>that i cannot promise :P
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05:21:49  <mmalecki>nmanousos: yup, monitoring set up
05:21:59  <nmanousos>:)
05:22:09  <nmanousos>thank you
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05:38:21  <coderarity>yes
05:38:24  <coderarity>what's up?
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05:43:29  <ArxPoetica>I'm going to bed.
05:43:30  <ArxPoetica>:P
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07:18:03  <coderarity>hi
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08:14:45  <airandfingers>Every time I try to deploy an update to my app I get a "socket hang up" error
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09:10:44  <Bharat_>hello all I am getting following error after subscribing "2046 declined"
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10:58:24  <st_luke>https://github.com/st-luke/crawly
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11:05:06  <mmalecki>st_luke: this is hilarious
11:06:09  <st_luke>mmalecki: I was going to sleep then I woke up because I thought of a silly module idea
11:06:12  <st_luke>so i wrote it really quick
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11:09:34  <mmalecki>st_luke: yup, way to go :)
11:09:48  <st_luke>we need more silly modules
11:09:54  <st_luke>they're way more fun than the other ones
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11:11:10  <mmalecki>jifasnif!
11:11:20  <mmalecki>in the meantime, I should go back to sleep
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11:44:01  <jesusabdullah>I wrote my silly modules already
11:44:06  <jesusabdullah>except a few hard ones
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11:49:45  <substack>so silly, so right
12:04:51  <robmozart>i’m getting this error when trying to deploy: Error spawning drone: no matching engine found
12:05:10  <robmozart>does it mean node.js version?
12:08:09  <robmozart>seems to work now
12:08:15  <lpin>robmozart add this in your package.json "engines": {"node": "0.8.x"}
12:09:25  <robmozart>lpin: ok thanks
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13:24:21  <robmozart>can you recommend a host to use with nodejitsu?
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13:28:04  <robmozart>are there domain hosts with low latency worldwide? or is it wise to pick one located near users/visitors?
13:30:22  <robmozart>or near nodejitsu…
13:32:52  <jan____>what is your use-case?
13:34:17  <robmozart>jan____: timezone converting web app (to be clear, i’m talking about a domain host)
13:34:47  <jan____>I am trying to understand why the choice of a domain host plays into anything
13:35:59  <robmozart>jan____: is it irrelevant regarding speed?
13:36:57  <jan____>if you mean the lookup of a domain, yes. DNS is built that way
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13:42:23  <robmozart>ok
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14:45:14  * dscapetopic: Nodejitsu - deploy apps, keep them up | Cloud Status: https://status.jit.su/ | http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/66377/what-is-the-xy-problem
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15:26:52  <lpin>I have just created an iris redis db but i'm not able to connect from cli
15:27:35  <nathan7>a moment
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15:33:49  <nathan7>lpin: the redis-cli and the iriscouch redis pws don't intract nicely
15:35:31  <lpin>mmm ok
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15:36:52  <nathan7>*interact
15:38:46  <lpin>gonna check if it works with the node client
15:38:53  <nathan7>That should work
15:39:20  <lpin>probably but i also need the cli client
15:39:58  <lpin>not a real problem since my old redistogo instance still work
15:40:52  <nathan7>Yeah, iriscouch's proxy is weird
15:42:55  <lpin>nope doesn't work, i guess it's the redis-url module parser
15:43:41  <nathan7>o:
15:44:19  <lpin>gonna try without redis-url module :D
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15:51:46  <lpin>no way
15:54:39  <lpin>http://vpaste.net/2sSKx --> Auth error: ERR operation not permitted
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16:02:37  <`3rdEden>lpin: have you seen the iris-redis irc client?
16:02:49  <`3rdEden>https://github.com/iriscouch/iris-redis
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16:03:25  <lpin>yeah i saw that, have i to use it?
16:04:18  <`3rdEden>lpin: you don't but it has some extra features. For example it can upgrade the connection to a direct connection
16:04:40  <`3rdEden>this will reduce latency of the connection
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16:05:34  <`3rdEden>lpin: I did notice that I didn't correctly display the iris couch redis password in WebOps, it needs to have the hostname prepended to it..
16:05:45  <`3rdEden>So make sure you have that in your auth code
16:06:25  <lpin>`3rdEden, yeah using the one provided by jitsu
16:06:37  <lpin>and it has the hostname in the auth string
16:06:42  <`3rdEden>ok
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16:09:00  <joemccann>hey guys
16:09:09  <joemccann>dns subdomains not working for
16:09:14  <joemccann>mandylauderdale.jit.su
16:09:22  <joemccann>mandylauderdale.com is down?
16:09:35  <AvianFlu>joemccann: let me have a look
16:10:05  <AvianFlu>joemccann: they both just loaded for me
16:10:20  <AvianFlu>and mandylauderdale.com resolves to our LBs
16:10:23  <joemccann>oh
16:10:31  <joemccann>hmm, chrome probably aggressively caching maybe?
16:10:36  <lpin>joemccann same here
16:10:36  <AvianFlu>it's possible
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16:10:51  <joemccann>yep that's the problem
16:10:54  <joemccann>ok carry on
16:10:57  <joemccann>fucking user error
16:10:59  <joemccann>;)
16:11:00  <AvianFlu>haha glad it's working
16:11:07  <AvianFlu>PBCAK, isn't that what they call that!? :D
16:11:26  <joemccann>yup
16:16:05  <lpin>`3rdEden tried with iris-redis wrapper same story
16:17:50  <`3rdEden>lpin: that's odd, I just checked it with one my instances and it works fine
16:17:58  <lpin>no clue :|
16:22:20  <CoverSlide>whoah, iriscouch has redis now?
16:22:47  <lpin>since quite some time now
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16:23:04  <lpin>was already active during NKO
16:23:56  <CoverSlide>"quite some time" doesn't tell me anything. i haven't used my iriscouch for over a year now
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16:30:56  <AvianFlu>CoverSlide: they released it probably mid-october
16:31:07  <AvianFlu>it's only available through people like us, though
16:31:11  <AvianFlu>they don't offer it to end users at present
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16:37:35  <AvianFlu>JasonSmith: ping
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16:39:38  <jesusabdullah>g'morn AvianFlu
16:39:47  <jesusabdullah>what is up
16:40:04  <AvianFlu>WHY HELLO, APPARENTLY SKINNIER JESUS!
16:40:08  <AvianFlu>not much
16:40:22  <AvianFlu>IT'S FOGGY IN SF I'M SO SHOCKED I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
16:42:40  <jesusabdullah>lol
16:42:43  <jesusabdullah>nice
16:42:55  <jesusabdullah>still not sure if I'll be back in town at the end of the month or later
16:43:05  <jesusabdullah>if I extend I'm really not looking forward to the process
16:43:11  <AvianFlu>just let me know what's hood
16:43:17  <AvianFlu>there's space here if you're coming back
16:44:24  <jesusabdullah>word
16:44:31  <jesusabdullah>when are you no longer in sf
16:45:15  <AvianFlu>at some point during march, depending on a few things
16:45:26  <AvianFlu>but I'll also be gone part of feb.
16:45:27  <nathan7>Hey jesusabdullah
16:45:38  <cronopio>jesusabdullah: hi man how are you?
16:46:10  <jesusabdullah>not bad at all cronopio
16:46:12  <jesusabdullah>hello nathan7
16:46:25  <nathan7>'sup?
16:47:21  <jesusabdullah>not much
16:47:26  <jesusabdullah>catching up on internet
16:47:34  <jesusabdullah>trying to get the gumption to do some work but it's eluding me
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16:48:01  <cronopio>hehehe
16:48:08  <jesusabdullah>going to see if http://www.talesofgames.com/related_game/barkley-shut-up-jam-gaiden/ works with wine
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17:01:29  <nathan7>I wonder how okay it is to share git objects between repos
17:05:35  <jan____>is there an environment variable that tells me the code is running on nodejitsu?
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17:09:05  <nathan7>jan____: How about NODE_ENV?
17:09:13  <nathan7>jan____: We set it to production
17:09:23  <AvianFlu>we also set SUBDOMAIN to your subdomain
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17:09:42  <nathan7>jan____: I tend to do something like var env = process.env.NODE_ENV || 'development'
17:10:03  <nathan7>if (env == 'production') //do production stuff
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17:10:45  <jan____>nathan7: good practice, I’ll heve to think abot whether this applies to my sitiuation.
17:10:56  <jan____>AvianFlu: checking on SUBDOMAIN can work, thanks
17:11:14  <nathan7>it can be convenient to load a config depending on NODE_ENV
17:11:24  <nathan7>or you can stick config things into your environment with jitsu env
17:11:54  <nathan7>(I keep DB info in there so it uses the right DB automagically)
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17:12:02  <jan____>nathan7: I a currently looking for a way to just know when I am "not locally" and not having to configure anything
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17:12:14  <jan____>so checking for process.env.SUBDOMAIN existence is a good shot
17:12:29  <nathan7>process.env.NODE_ENV == 'production' is usually the most sensible
17:13:27  <jan____>nathan7: again, please let me make that decision myself. I understand it works for you and that’s great, but my situation might be different, mightn’t it?
17:13:41  <nathan7>I'm just giving you a suggestion
17:13:44  <nathan7>feel free not to take it
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17:13:58  <jan____>I am :
17:13:59  <nathan7>I don't know your situation to every detail, you do
17:14:02  <jan____>:)
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17:16:50  <jan____>thanks guys
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17:28:47  <rlyeh>hello
17:31:09  <rlyeh>how does autoscaling work in nodejitsu?
17:31:25  <Sly>rlyeh: auto scaling is currently not available.
17:32:05  <rlyeh>#define currently :)
17:32:17  <rlyeh>is it broken or is it yet to implement?
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17:33:19  <Sly>I know it's coming, but it won't be in the next month.. possibly two.
17:33:54  <rlyeh>aha ok thanks. we'll have to wait
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17:35:43  <Sly>rlyeh: Sorry about that. It's requested pretty frequently. We just don't have it available yet.
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17:36:49  <rlyeh>you guys should remove it from the webpages. marketing and selling a non-working feature is actually fraud in my country. no offenses. just saying
17:36:51  <rlyeh>: )
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18:16:41  <air__>mmalecki, is there any way to run a jitsu command that tells me what version the drone is on compared to my local version?
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18:18:26  <nathan7>air__: version of node.js?
18:18:33  <air__>no the app version
18:18:39  <nathan7>ah
18:20:31  <blakmatrix>air__: `jitsu apps view`
18:20:49  <air__>thanks
18:20:57  <nathan7>air__: apps list tells me the snapshot here
18:20:59  <nathan7>ah
18:21:02  <nathan7>Damnit, blakmatrix q=
18:21:18  * nathan7continues trying to comprehend the insides of git
18:23:39  <yawnt>i had a link about that somewhere :
18:23:40  <yawnt>\
18:23:45  <nathan7>mhm
18:24:06  <nathan7>I'm reading 'git from the bottom up' and looking around .git
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18:28:04  <nathan7>I'm reading 'git from the bottom up' and looking around .git
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18:45:24  <airandfingers>can anyone help with this "socket hang up" error I get when I try to deploy? https://gist.github.com/4495696
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18:46:11  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: sure let me take a look at your last deploy
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18:46:59  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: do i have to send you anything? i'm not using version control (git) yet
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18:48:49  <airandfingers>hi diego_
18:49:47  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: what is the app name? bootstrap.js?
18:49:57  <airandfingers>yes, bootstrap.js
18:50:25  <diego_>excuse me. anyone can help me deloying a socket.io simple app
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18:50:51  <airandfingers>diego_ : what's your problem? with my socket.io apps i had to comment out the "flashsocket" transport method
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18:51:22  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: can you deploy while i watch, let me knoe when you are starting
18:51:23  <diego_>actually is working but is not using websockets i think. maybe longpolling
18:51:39  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: okay, starting now
18:52:29  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: done, failed with same error
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18:53:45  <airandfingers>diego_: the socket.io transports are controlled server-side by your io.set('transports', [Array of transport names]) line; if you put websocket at the top, it should take priority
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18:54:18  <diego_>but the default transport is websockets right?
18:54:19  <airandfingers>diego_: that said, i've had trouble getting socket.io to ever use websockets; whenever i listed it as my only transport method, i couldn't get my client and server to communicate *shrug*
18:54:54  <airandfingers>diego_: not sure about the default transport, but if the default fails it'll definitely fall back to another transport
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18:55:33  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: can you gist me your package.json
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18:56:31  <Nodejitsu-Github>[nodejitsu-api] 3rd-Eden pushed 1 new commit to cloud: http://git.io/IdtNsw
18:56:31  <Nodejitsu-Github>nodejitsu-api/cloud fd0cfaf 3rd-Eden: [minor] Make the cloud functions re-usable, so we could re-do the operation incase of failure...
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18:56:44  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: sure, https://gist.github.com/449579
18:56:54  <`3rdEden>dafuq, i pushed that ^ 1 hour ago ._.
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18:57:10  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: sorry about the format, looks like jitsu overrode my indented file
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18:59:01  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: how big is the resulting file if you run `npm pack`
18:59:50  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: I think you sent me the wrong gist, its html stuff
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19:01:46  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: really? whoops, this one should work (format fixed) https://gist.github.com/4495794
19:02:19  <airandfingers>npm pack gives me a .tgz that's 8,678,257 bytes
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19:04:06  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: updated gist with a comment showing some warnings when i run "npm pack", and the size of the resulting .tgz
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19:05:06  <diego_>mmm i just set io.set('transports', ['websocket']);
19:05:12  <diego_>but is still doing longpolling.
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19:06:10  <airandfingers>diego_: hm, that's strange.. you can set it client-side too: socket = io.connect(window.location.href, {transports: ['xhr-multipart', 'htmlfile', 'xhr-polling', 'jsonp-polling']});
19:06:34  <diego_>oops i didnt know that.. lets try doing that on the client side.. :)
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19:08:13  <airandfingers>diego_: yep, there's quite a bit to socket.io configuration (and we're quickly approaching the end of my experience with it)
19:09:09  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: still looking
19:10:00  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: looks like you recovered your package.json from a snapshot, is this correct
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19:10:44  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: that's right! i'd forgotten about that; i did a jitsu snapshots fetch, un-tar'd the package, modified it, and attempted to redeploy
19:11:09  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: did the same thing on another machine (though with fewer changes) and it worked fine..
19:11:24  <blakmatrix>I was able to reproduce , but I removed the bundled deps feild and the app then made a deploy
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19:13:40  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: should i remove that field from mine, then?
19:14:14  <blakmatrix>yeah try removeing env and bundledDependencies
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19:18:23  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: looks like that fixed the problem, but now i'm getting a 404 error: https://gist.github.com/4495986
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19:20:37  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: Oh good, thats a rackspace issue that has popped up lately, activate the latest snapshot with `jitsu snapshots activate`
19:20:58  <blakmatrix>then `jitsu start` if need be
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19:22:45  <blakmatrix>airandfingers: what is hapening there is that the rackspace server returns that everything is OK before it has actually made your snapshot available, chances are seconds after it will be available 99.99% of the time
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19:27:04  <airandfingers>blakmatrix: i see, thanks.. it looks like it worked! thanks again :D
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19:43:26  <jesusabdullah>man wine's pretty sweet
19:43:41  <blakmatrix>what kind?
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19:44:30  <jesusabdullah>the kind that's not an emulator
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19:44:48  <jesusabdullah>playing http://www.talesofgames.com/related_game/barkley-shut-up-jam-gaiden/ with it
19:44:53  <jesusabdullah>the game's amazing
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19:47:00  <anzorb>I am having issues with socket.io and nodejitsu. It seems to be defaulting to xhr-polling, but locally works on websockets, I thought Express may have been interfering on the same port, but after dedicating port 80 to socket.io, I still see my clients use xhr-polling
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19:48:14  <jesusabdullah>anzorb: http://wsping.jit.su/ shows websockets for me
19:48:27  <jesusabdullah>anzorb: if it shows xhr it may be a network promblem on your end
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19:52:04  <albertd>How can I update to a Business Plan?
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19:52:30  <blakmatrix>albertd: when they become available there will be an upgrade path
19:52:51  <anzorb>I also noticed an Unexpected response code: 500 error on the first request - I see this with http://wsping.jit.su/ as well, is this a known issue?
19:52:54  <albertd>Thx, btw how big can an app now be?
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19:54:15  <hourback>Where's the most appropriate place on the Web for discussions or questions about Flatiron.js?
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19:57:22  <albertd>Is an App now limited to max 50MB?
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19:59:59  <blakmatrix>albertd: you get a warning if your app is ver 50MB
20:00:42  <blakmatrix>hourback: you can try here for flatiron or the google group
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20:02:40  <hourback>blakmatrix: Thank you! :-) Which Google Group?
20:03:15  <blakmatrix>https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/flatironjs
20:03:35  <blakmatrix>http://groups.google.com/group/flatironjs
20:04:49  <hourback>Oh brother. :-) Okay, thanks, blakmatrix. Searching for "flatiron.js" turned up nothing, disappointingly. I'm surprised Google's group search didn't catch that.
20:05:02  <blakmatrix>hmm weird
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20:08:27  <anzorb>jesusabdullah, I am at the office, but I thought as long as I use port 80, websockets should work - guess this is not the case. I ran the tests on http://wstest.jit.su/ and I only get websockets over SSL. Must be my work firewall. Thanks
20:09:35  <jesusabdullah>yw
20:10:05  <blakmatrix>anzorb: It might be regular websockets over port 80, they might work on 8080 for example
20:10:17  <blakmatrix>sounds like what AT&T does
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20:20:12  <hourback>I guess my Flatiron.js question is this: I've never used Flatiron before, and have only done tiny Node.js projects. Now, though, we're about to start a potentially large Node.js project, and a Phonegap/Cordova project. My partner and I have decided to try Flatiron.js for the Node.js project. Since I'm going to be learning Flatiron.js anyway, I was wondering if it would be useful to use on the Phonegap project also. Any thoughts?
20:25:50  <blakmatrix>well i mean it is all just javascript, but you might look into how reflective it is, if your not going to be usin backbone or spine
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20:31:08  <hourback>blakmatrix: Hmm. . . . :-) Can you dumb it down slightly, please? I'm also pretty new to the JS ecosystem, so unsure how things fit together.
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20:32:44  <jesusabdullah>hourback: my advice is to just work with them where it makes sense, and over time you may see flatiron components that would be useful in the context of cordova
20:32:56  <jesusabdullah>hourback: but don't stress too much about trying to make them interact
20:33:10  <blakmatrix>hourback: welll like i'm talking from what i've heard other people talk about phonegap, ideally you want a clientside JS framework like backbone, flatiron is more of a node.js serverside framework
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20:39:10  <hourback>Ah, okay. Thank you blakmatrix and jesusabdullah. That helps.
20:40:00  <booyaa>dscape: dude that was an awesome blog post about couchdb btw
20:40:16  <dscape>thanks booyaa
20:40:36  <anzorb>I am trying to have socket.io listen on a separate port 8080 then express 80. I have var io = require('socket.io').listen(8080); and server.listen(80); and I am still getting "Welcome to socket.io." when i navigate to my app. Any suggestions?
20:40:36  <hourback>I think we were under a misconception about Flatiron, however. I think we both thought it was more like Yahoo's Mojito, where the app didn't really care whether it was on a client or on a server.
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20:42:41  <hourback>Now I'm unsure how much of the app will be reusable between the client and the server if we go with Flatiron.js.
20:42:56  <hourback>Sorry -- thinking out loud. :-)
20:42:57  <kohai>Sorry has -1 beer
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20:50:54  <blakmatrix>anzorb: You can only listen on one port on a drone
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20:56:38  <blakmatrix>hourback: jesusabdullah put it succinctly here https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/nodejs/UUky-1A0xV4
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20:58:50  <hourback>blakmatrix: Excellent! Thanks again. (& jesusabdullah)
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21:01:16  <hourback>blakmatrix: While I'm here, I guess, what do you think is a client-side JS framework that is similar in flavor to Flatiron.js? My partner was very impressed with the design of Flatiron, which is part of why we chose it, and I'm sure we'll be hunting through all the options now.
21:01:43  <hourback>jesusabdullah: Also please feel free to chime in. :-) Or anyone else! Why not!
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21:03:03  <blakmatrix>backbone is very popular, spine is also a big one, they are both javascript based
21:03:32  <blakmatrix>http://backbonejs.org/
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21:14:36  <hourback>blakmatrix: Thanks.
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22:24:54  <blakmatrix>Hows everybody doin'?
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