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00:25:16  <Kamil>Hi guys, is there any known issue related to activating new snapshots / starting apps
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00:48:27  <Anonymous_>A newbie here, wondering if there is any sort of throttling on number of requests my app can send out?
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00:50:00  <jcrugzz>Anonymous_: I do not believe there is any kind of throttling
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00:53:08  <Anonymous_>Another question: Under what circumstances would my app restart?
00:54:13  <Anonymous_>As in, I have witnessed it restarting when I didn't do anything. Did it run out of memory, or was there an error?
00:57:04  <jcrugzz>Anonymous_: if your app crashes in some manner it will automatically restart
00:57:22  <jcrugzz>make sure you are catching all exceptions and errors
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01:37:46  <kimpettersen>Hello! I am trying to change my DNS to point to nodejitu, but my provider wont accept ip addresses. Is that possible with nodejitsu?
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01:38:21  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: your DNS wont let you use A records?
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01:41:51  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: When I tried to enter the IP addresses as DNS servers I got an error message. The FAQ says that I might get asked for IP addresses as well.
01:42:57  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: who is your DNS host for your domain?
01:43:38  <jcrugzz>this is an example of on namecheap of how I have mine setup
01:43:38  <jcrugzz>https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14043606/Screen%20Shot%202013-03-09%20at%201.04.47%20PM.png
01:43:45  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: It is a norwegian company www.domeneshop.no.
01:45:13  <jcrugzz>does it give you any option to set A names?
01:46:43  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: Nope, they only want names of DNS servers. If that isn't a common thing, I guess this is a problem I should talk with them about and not you guys.
01:48:49  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: Yep, I'll try that. thanks anyways.
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01:49:06  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: ohh ok, so they may not also do DNS
01:49:34  <jcrugzz>ok, best of luck!
01:56:21  <coderarity>they might not have DNS servers
01:56:27  <coderarity>could check out AWS's DNS stuff
01:56:42  <coderarity>http://aws.amazon.com/route53/
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01:57:02  <jcrugzz>yea how many DNS providers are there?
01:57:17  <coderarity>independent of registrars? only a few that I know
01:57:20  <coderarity>rackspace does it as well
01:57:33  <jcrugzz>yea theirs is all api based i believe
01:57:35  <coderarity>linode only does it if you have a linode
01:58:03  <jcrugzz>of course
01:58:21  <jcrugzz>you handle those administrators today?
01:58:30  <julianduque>I use cloudns.net or no-ip.org
01:58:36  <coderarity>it's only like 1$/month on amazon or so, based on usage
01:58:47  <coderarity>i talked to them
01:58:52  <coderarity>i have to go talk to the math department tomorrow
01:59:09  <coderarity>i hope they are merciful people
01:59:13  <coderarity>because taking this class is torture
01:59:33  <julianduque>coderarity: damn, what are you studying?
01:59:34  <jcrugzz>what class is it?
01:59:41  <coderarity>it's fucking precalculus
01:59:46  <coderarity>i have taken this class 3 times in high school
02:00:04  <julianduque>coderarity: khan academy !!
02:00:06  <coderarity>because apparently perfect scores in the class three times in a row isn't enough
02:00:15  <coderarity>julianduque: i doubt that'll get me a doctorite :P
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02:00:25  <julianduque>coderarity: :p
02:00:37  <jcrugzz>what they are making you take that?
02:00:43  <julianduque>I will enter again to the University \o/
02:00:44  <jcrugzz>thats ridiculous
02:00:48  <julianduque>I will study Philosophy <3
02:00:51  <coderarity>jcrugzz: most people have to take it
02:01:06  <coderarity>jcrugzz: but seriously, i don't even know, i am so ahead of it
02:01:11  <coderarity>they said i can take a test
02:01:14  <coderarity>i'll destroy it
02:01:16  <coderarity>so, yeah
02:01:24  <jcrugzz>julianduque: lets study philosophy without paying for it! :p
02:01:26  <coderarity>tests don't even know what to do when i take them
02:01:32  <jcrugzz>haha
02:02:04  <jcrugzz>yea retaking shit is not fun. its not interesting enough so you dont care about it
02:02:06  <julianduque>jcrugzz: it's a public University and has a greate Philosophy dept
02:02:21  <coderarity>jcrugzz: i drew a pretty interesting thing in class today, though
02:02:29  <coderarity>it was like a bunny
02:02:30  <coderarity>kinda
02:02:52  <coderarity>once i'm doing things related to my major i'll have fun
02:02:57  <coderarity>although maybe i'll just test out of it
02:03:13  <coderarity>i've practically taken the courses they offer several times helping friends and stuff
02:05:13  <jcrugzz>coderarity: you gotta get yourself in a school that will challenge you. screw required classes
02:05:20  <jcrugzz>that arent helpful
02:05:34  <coderarity>well
02:05:35  <coderarity>i will
02:05:48  <jcrugzz>julianduque: doesn't cost you too much?
02:06:13  <coderarity>i just have to perform the general education rituals
02:06:27  <coderarity>they're not gonna let me skip it or anything
02:07:31  <coderarity>jcrugzz: also, VT didn't accept me when I first applied, they'll have to accept me after I finish community college though (it's a virginia thing)
02:07:49  <jcrugzz>coderarity: ahh thats lame
02:08:01  <coderarity>it's all about the numbers when they look at those things
02:08:04  <jcrugzz>yea
02:08:12  <coderarity>i had a pretty good GPA and my SAT was pretty good
02:08:21  <coderarity>they didn't really care, i didn't do well freshman year
02:08:34  <coderarity>eventually i stopped programming for a while and finished high school
02:08:35  <coderarity>lol
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02:10:27  <anonymous_>I'm getting a "Error: socket hang up" error and am not sure what part of the request to try-catch
02:10:58  <jcrugzz>coderarity: "i guess ill finish this algebra instead of making a computer game"
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02:11:37  <jcrugzz>anonymous_: can you try running `jitsu deploy --debug` and gist me the output?
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02:14:49  <anonymous_>The output from the command line?
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02:15:57  <coderarity>how the glibc people manage 3993 tests is beyond me
02:16:07  <jcrugzz>anonymous_: yes
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02:18:04  <anonymous_>Okay but how is that useful? Isn't the problem just the connection with the other server?
02:18:15  <ahr3n>I'm tasked with developing a web socket based project and have some questions regarding your cloud hosting...
02:19:15  <jcrugzz>anonymous_: it usually gives a bit more error information because it could be a number of things
02:19:29  <jcrugzz>ahr3n: what questions do you have?
02:20:06  <ahr3n>Basically, the application is deployed in, say 5 different locations with a possibility of up to 10 users connected simultaneously per location. So how many drones would handle 50 users?
02:20:48  <jcrugzz>ahr3n: one drone can handle ~500 persistent websocket connections
02:20:50  <ahr3n>The idea is that the application would be in a kiosk and users would connect via their smartphones
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02:27:14  <ahr3n>So are there any bandwidth limits or anything? Just based on how many drones you use?
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02:29:50  <jcrugzz>ahr3n: its essentially just based on drones
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05:00:30  <dileep>how do i export mongodb database db-login .unable to use the docs.getting errors...any body please paste the query.
05:00:41  <dileep>to csv format
05:07:04  <julianduque>dileep: you can use http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/reference/mongoexport/
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05:50:01  <jaxon_>165.225.130.238 appears to be down
05:50:13  <jaxon_>thus my site devilducky.com is down
05:50:54  <julianduque>jaxon_: let me check
05:51:25  <jaxon_>thanks
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06:00:10  <jaxon_>ping
06:01:06  <julianduque>jaxon_: I'm investigating.. I'm seeing your site up and running but i'm checking the balancer issue.
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06:04:56  <jaxon_>I am able to hit both devilducky.com and 165.225.130.238 from an AWS East server
06:05:53  <jaxon_>and I can hit every other one of my Nodjitsu hosted sites from Seattle, except devilducky.com and 165.225.130.238
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06:08:40  <fauntle_qweb>has something terrible happened? For a bit there I couldn't access nodejitsu.com, and I'm having trouble accessing my app http://relayjs.jit.su/
06:09:35  <julianduque>hello fauntle_qweb, i'm seeing your app online, maybe it's a problem that i'm working on it right now
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06:12:14  <kesne>On the nodejitsu website it says that I can only allocate up to 3 drones per app on the individual plans. Is this true?
06:12:51  <Raynos>raynos.graphics-server.jit.su
06:12:57  <Raynos>My server doesn't do anything anymore :/
06:13:04  <julianduque>kesne: With individual/small plan you only had 3 drones
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06:13:37  <julianduque>Raynos: what are you seeing? I'm seeing it online
06:13:47  <Raynos>oh
06:13:48  <Raynos>now it works
06:14:02  <kesne>julianduque: But you can get the Regular plan which includes 5 drones. Under that, would I only be able allocate 3 drones to an app?
06:14:02  <julianduque>It was a small timeout on one of the balancers, I already fix it
06:14:13  <julianduque>kesne: up to 5 if you want
06:14:34  <kesne>julianduque: Well that's not what the website says.
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06:14:49  <julianduque>kesne: can you point me the exact text please so I can check
06:14:58  <kesne>julianduque: https://www.nodejitsu.com/paas/pricing#individual
06:15:04  <kesne>"Individual plans allow you to allocate up to 3 drones to a single application."
06:15:34  <julianduque>kesne: you are right, let me confirm that
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06:23:15  <julianduque>kesne: Yes, you are right, up to 3 drones per app. Sorry I was confused.
06:24:09  <kesne>julianduque: Welp, that's unforunate.
06:26:38  <julianduque>kesne: If you need more drones per app you should take a look on the business plans
06:27:27  <kesne>julianduque: Why does the large individual plan have automatic drone assignment then?
06:27:39  <kesne>It just seems counter-intuative to automatically assign drones, up to 3.
06:29:43  <julianduque>kesne: that automatic drone is not 'autoscaling' it's that you have the number of drones you need (no limit) but still 3 per app
06:30:08  <kesne>Well that sucks.
06:30:17  <julianduque>kesne: maybe the copy isn't clear enough, I will file an issue to improve the copy
06:30:28  <kesne>julianduque: Ok
06:31:02  <kesne>Bah, business plans, why are you so expensive :(
06:31:18  <nathan7>kesne: Note that Nodejitsu Webops (fairly intensive) and the front page (pretty frequently visited) both run on 2 drones
06:31:32  <julianduque>and Individual, why are you so cheap!!! :p
06:31:44  <julianduque>nathan7: good point nathan7 ;)
06:31:59  <julianduque>nathan7: o/
06:32:01  <kesne>julianduque: I realize that. But a 10x price hike seems too much.
06:33:13  <kesne>nathan7: We developed a test that automatically determines the number of drones needed.
06:33:18  <nathan7>kesne: Mhm
06:33:31  <kesne>nathan7: Basically, it said "more than 3".
06:33:49  <nathan7>kesne: Well, we could give you a business plan trial and see how far it goes
06:34:05  <kesne>The app eats up ram like nothing else.
06:34:21  <kesne>nathan7: That's okay, I'm sure I'll figure it out.
06:35:10  <nathan7>kesne: Ah!
06:35:14  <nathan7>kesne: Business plans offer larger drones
06:35:17  <nathan7>kesne: ie more memory
06:35:32  <kesne>nathan7: Yes, but they cost more than we'd like to pay.
06:35:44  <kesne>So it's a trade-off
06:35:59  <nathan7>The individual plans are on a best-efforts basis
06:36:09  <nathan7>Business plans have priority support, larger drones, multi-DC
06:36:35  <kesne>Yeah I saw that. Just trying to figure out the best way to manage it.
06:37:06  <nathan7>The larger drones are accounted for as multiple smaller ones (ie a 1024MB drone is 4 drones accounting-wise)
06:38:25  <fauntle_qweb>looks like my app is accessible again
06:38:47  <julianduque>fauntle_qweb: awesome!
06:39:02  <kesne>$0.033 per hour per drone just seems like a lot.
06:39:58  <kesne>For example, EC2 would be $0.02 per hour, with over double the ram.
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06:45:01  <nathan7>kesne: That means operating your own load balancers, provisioning, etc
06:45:07  <julianduque>kesne: but the feature set is different, isn't the same. You don't get the load balancing / deploy tools / continuous integration / irc support
06:45:24  <kesne>That's true.
06:45:26  <julianduque>kesne: and you need to setup all your environment, and if you need to add more instances you need to install them or copy the existing one
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06:46:00  <kesne>I just don't I see the value over a 2.5x price hike.
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06:46:24  <Nexxy>kesne, the fact that you're in a support channel talking to actual staff members about their pricing right now
06:46:26  <Nexxy>should say a lot to you
06:46:49  <nathan7>(and I'm not even technically on duty)
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06:47:09  <Nexxy>you're not going to find better support anywhere (regardless of cost)
06:47:19  <kesne>Nexxy: It does, but support isn't everything.
06:47:20  <mmalecki>o hai
06:47:25  <Nexxy>kesne, you say that now
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06:47:47  <Nexxy>but when shit goes south, your priorities tend to shift
06:48:03  <kesne>Nexxy: I've deployed applications on EC2 before, so I'm fairly well versed in what I'm doing.
06:48:05  <Nexxy>suddenly that penny you're saving doesn't seem as significant
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06:48:15  <Nexxy>kesne, I'm not even talking about your skillset
06:48:29  <kesne>Nexxy: And that penny that you're spending for the support seems very significant when you start scaling more and more.
06:48:37  <julianduque>Nexxy: <3
06:48:53  <Nexxy>kesne, I rest my case :P
06:49:17  <Nexxy>julianduque, <3
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06:49:26  <jesusabdullah>hey nexxy
06:49:37  <Nexxy>soup jesusabdullah !
06:50:21  <Nexxy>you guys, I'm getting close to total information awareness
06:50:25  <Nexxy>within my personal spaces anyway
06:50:34  <jesusabdullah>nice!
06:50:44  <jesusabdullah>n2m Nexxy winding down for the night
06:50:48  <jesusabdullah>or trying to anyway!
06:51:01  <jesusabdullah>how are you?
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06:53:28  <Nexxy>julianduque, high as a kite
06:53:31  <Nexxy>and yourself?
06:53:47  <fauntle_qweb>it is almost time
06:53:53  <fauntle_qweb>the swarm cometh
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06:54:31  <julianduque>lol
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06:57:23  <Nexxy>ḫ̣̻̳͓̖̼̽ͤ̃̑͋̍̇ë̸̢̫̂̂͗̚͠ͅ ̢̢̮̙̬̣͇͕̞̖͒̆̌ͩͤ̈́ͤc̦͍̙͂ͮ́ͯ̐͡ͅo̧̢̳̟̱̝̫̝̝̪͇ͦͭͭ̌͘m̵̝̥̲̞̪̙̋ͦ̈̆͋͐̏̀̀ĕ͎͍̺͎̺̫̻̟ͩ͐̔̐s̵̜͈̻͔̰̭͌̌̓͘.̓̍͗͝҉̲͕̗̫͍̱̘̥̩
06:57:36  <Nexxy>lol
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06:59:03  <kesne>I have one more question.
06:59:29  <kesne>How many socket.io connections could one drone support feasibly.
07:00:20  <julianduque>kesne: ~500
07:00:33  <julianduque>concurrent
07:00:38  <kesne>Alright
07:01:50  <kesne>julianduque: Is that best-case? What if there's a lot of information flowing between clients/server.
07:03:27  <julianduque>kesne: it depends on the app, I tested it with a socket.io benchmark, but if there is more information flowing i think the concurrent connections will drop, but idk exactly
07:03:43  <mmalecki>nah, once drone accepts a connection it'll keep it up
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07:33:56  <alucardX>good morning
07:36:52  <julianduque>alucardX: good morning !
07:37:01  <julianduque>alucardX: como amanece españa?
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07:46:50  <Barnzy>Have a question about minifying and uglifying if anyone is about :-)
07:49:18  <julianduque>Barnzy: hello, how can I help?
07:51:16  <Barnzy>julianduque: Many thanks, was speaking to nathan7 last night about this and he suggested a shell scrip to do all the minifying and uglifying and attaching that to the predeploy hook in package.json. This was due to the node-minify lib I was using was working on my dev environment but for some reason as soon as it hit nodejitsu, it wouldn't run and no errors were produced.
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07:51:42  <Barnzy>So my only question is, how do I go about writing a shell script that does what I need, is there an online resource I can look at?
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07:52:22  <julianduque>Barnzy: What OS do you use?
07:52:31  <Barnzy>Mac OSX
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07:53:05  <julianduque>Barnzy: you can take a look on Square https://npmjs.org/package/square it is good for what you need
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07:55:10  <Barnzy>julianduque: Aha, found that last night too, however documentation isn't great, I wanted to learn more about the watch flag for example and it 404's. Also, it states that to use GCC and YUI I need the java binary, is that something I need to upload with my app or is it available globally on Nodejitsu servers?
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07:56:02  <julianduque>Barnzy: you can do something like this: https://gist.github.com/julianduque/b9bb6488f5bfa5946096
07:56:15  <julianduque>Barnzy: it depends on the commands you use to minify/uglify
07:58:21  <Barnzy>julianduque: Excellent, thanks for the gist, I will start trying to make my own script now, I'm assuming your gist relies on npm square to be installed in my app?
08:00:15  <julianduque>Barnzy: no, it depends on which tools do you use, but with square is slightly different, maybe `3rdEden or Swaagie can help you with it, the are the devs ;)
08:01:28  <`3rdEden>lemme search the channel logs and read up
08:02:21  <Barnzy>juliandeueu: Awesome, thanks for the help, 3rdEden just appeared aswell, as if by magic!
08:02:40  <`3rdEden>Barnzy: me and Swaagie build & maintain square, we also use for all our assets @ nodejitsu
08:03:13  <`3rdEden>java is only a requirement if you want to use the YUI or Google Closure compiler
08:03:14  <Swaagie>at your service, shoot away
08:03:43  <`3rdEden>But you can just make it use closure compiler instead
08:03:57  <`3rdEden>Barnzy: as for the 404's i wasn't aware of that, i'll look in to that
08:04:40  <`3rdEden>Barnzy: the urls work fine at https://github.com/observing/square so it must be the way that NPM parses the readme's
08:05:33  <Barnzy>`3rdEden: Awesome, got both devs now! Yes, I was interested in the command line flags and they all lead to the npm 404 pages. Just so happens that the npm page came up first when I was looking for square, was difficult find the github ones.
08:06:00  <Barnzy>I will read up and install and see what I can do, rather than asking you questions without using it. :-)
08:06:14  <`3rdEden>Barnzy: just a quick tip, there's a repository field in NPM that usually links to the github page :)
08:06:48  <Barnzy>`3rdEden: Thanks, new to all of this so still finding my feed, thanks for responding too Swaagie.
08:06:50  <julianduque>Barnzy: awesome! I told guy, they are the right ones ;)
08:07:12  <julianduque>s/guy/you my dyslexia is getting worse
08:07:23  <Barnzy>Thanks julianduque!
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10:41:08  <booyaa>is there an iPhone friendly version of webops? it's using responsive design but looks a bit cluttered
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10:44:27  <julianduque>booyaa: `3E ^
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10:45:14  <julianduque>booyaa: what do you mean by cluttered? :)
10:45:53  <booyaa>will take a screenshot but snapshots and logs tabs are squashed together
10:45:56  <booyaa>one sec
10:47:23  <julianduque>booyaa: thanks
10:51:49  <booyaa>julianduque: https://posts.app.net/3766917
10:52:05  * booyaatried it on safari and chrome on an iPhone 4S
10:52:16  <booyaa>it's usable just looks a little messy
10:56:58  <mmalecki>booyaa: is app.net cool?
10:57:03  <mmalecki>I was thinking about joining
10:57:36  <julianduque>booyaa: there is a work in progress on this issue
10:57:38  <booyaa>it's a bit lonely but this is how twitter started
10:58:12  <booyaa>mmalecki: I can get you an invite I think they still upgrade to a freemium
10:58:19  <booyaa>you interested?
10:59:19  <booyaa>they're looking after the devs unlike twitter
10:59:57  <booyaa>I miss my node and devops related groups
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11:01:44  <shmoon>hm
11:01:46  <shmoon>hey guys
11:01:55  <shmoon>i kinda wanna run 2 servers on a single app, how do i go about doing that?
11:02:00  <shmoon>so its like executing
11:02:14  <shmoon>node server.js && node realtime.js
11:02:28  <shmoon>not sure if this is the right time to ask but i'd like to get some help
11:02:37  <shmoon>anyone awake?
11:02:42  <julianduque>shmoon: they listen on different ports?
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11:02:52  <shmoon>yes 80 and 8080
11:03:08  <julianduque>shmoon: and realtime it's? socket.io?
11:03:11  <shmoon>just got succssful at setting up the app on port 80
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11:03:18  <shmoon>yes its socketio
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11:03:28  <shmoon>i know you will ask me to merge on single port but i want to do it on different please
11:03:56  <julianduque>shmoon: you can use namespaces if you want to have a separate namespace for socket.io
11:04:25  <shmoon>not sure what that is, but i want it like sub.jit.su:80 and sub.jit.su:8080
11:04:34  <julianduque>shmoon: but you need to bind the socket.io to the http server because can listen only on 1 port
11:05:05  <mmalecki>shmoon: this isn't possible just yet, sorry
11:05:06  <shmoon>hm so i cant listen on 2 ports for 1 app ? meh ok, same restriction as heroku maybe. maybe the only way to do is to get my own vps
11:05:19  <mmalecki>shmoon: why not deploy 2 apps?
11:05:21  <shmoon>hm ok mmalecki thanks
11:05:53  <julianduque>mmalecki: i think is better to bind the socket.io to the http server and use the namespace feature
11:06:20  <mmalecki>that's true
11:06:31  * mmaleckidoesn't use socket.io too much
11:06:35  <shmoon>link to namespace feature?
11:06:46  <julianduque>so.. sub.jit.su for the server and sub.jit.su/realtime for the rt stuff
11:07:22  <julianduque>shmoon: http://socket.io/#how-to-use "Restricting yourself to a namespace.
11:07:25  <julianduque>section
11:07:38  <shmoon>thanks
11:07:58  <julianduque>shmoon: with io.of('/realtime').on('connection', ....)
11:08:11  <booyaa>julianduque: cheers dude (iPhone stuff)
11:08:50  <julianduque>shmoon: and to bind the io to the http server you can du `io = require('socket.io').listen(server);`
11:08:59  <julianduque>s/du/do
11:09:05  <shmoon>yes i know about that but wanted to keep them separate
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11:10:30  <shmoon>current mongo and redis addons are quite limited, can i upgrade them for cash like i can do on heroku?
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11:10:56  <whiter>hi
11:11:09  <shmoon>julianduque: mmalecki ?
11:11:16  <julianduque>shmoon: you need to contact the providers (iriscouch / mongolab / mongohq)
11:11:19  <julianduque>whiter: hello!
11:11:24  <shmoon>oh
11:11:33  <whiter>i have a question about nodejitsu... is this place right?
11:11:49  <julianduque>whiter: yes!
11:12:02  <whiter>do you speak spanish julian?
11:12:06  <julianduque>whiter: si señor
11:12:14  <whiter>pues mejor en español si te parece
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11:12:30  <Nodejitsu-Github>godot/master 5bb3ab1 indexzero: [api test] Added `.coalesce()` reactor and tests.
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11:12:32  <julianduque>whiter: but on private, don't want to flood the channel with spanish
11:12:46  <julianduque>;)
11:12:47  <whiter>how can i speak with you in private?
11:12:52  <shmoon>in heroku you can upgrade directly, this is not cool :/
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11:13:35  <julianduque>shmoon: sorry for that, we provide the free versions of the services, but you can contact directly the providers and update your connection strings
11:13:47  <julianduque>whiter: I sent you a message
11:13:55  <whiter>julian i cant write you. the system says: Can't use this command in this window
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11:14:16  <whiter>and i just wrote normal text
11:14:32  <julianduque>whiter: Ok, pregunta por aca :)
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11:15:11  <whiter>vale. he visto que nodejitsu se mueve por planes y drones. pero que hay sobre paneles de control? para por ejemplo, hacer cuentas de correo del dominio, o manejar las DNS de los dominios? gracias
11:15:12  <shmoon>ok tha ks guys
11:16:31  <julianduque>whiter: nosotros somos una solución PaaS (Platform as a Service) no un servicio de hosting tradicional, solo ofrecemos la posibilidad de hacer deploy de aplicaciones Node.js, nuestro panel es para administrar múltiples aplicaciones no tiene las funciones de un hosting (como CPanel)
11:17:05  <whiter>y como puedo utilizar Nodejitsu en ese escenario?
11:17:57  <whiter>quiero decir, en casos reales los clientes como salvan esa caracteristica?
11:18:07  <julianduque>whiter: despliegas tu aplicación Node.js en nuestra plataforma pero los correos y dominios los debes administrar con otro proveedor, bien sea Google Apps para el correo u otro SMTP as a Service, y los dominios los administras donde registraste tu nombre.
11:19:09  <whiter>y nodejitsu provee una IP o dominio al que redirigir, verdad?
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11:19:56  <julianduque>whiter: Si, puede configurar su dominio
11:20:58  <whiter>okey, muchas gracias Julian
11:21:46  <julianduque>whiter: con mucho gusto
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13:41:42  <Sly>Nexxy, dear. <3
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14:12:46  <andreypopp>Hello, I'm trying to deploy my app on nodejitsu but it is failing because of one of the dependencies — it says it is not in index but I know it is there indeed (I released it almost a your ago). I suppose this is because npmjs and npm iris are two separate registries and nodejitsu uses the last one… what's the delay of propagating changes to the iris nom registry?
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14:23:03  <mmalecki>andreypopp: hey. what module is that? I'll look into it
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14:23:20  <mmalecki>andreypopp: also, year is totally enough, we have continuous replication set up
14:23:44  <andreypopp>mmalecki: songlocator-base, compare http://nj-npm.irisnpm.com/songlocator-base and https://registry.npmjs.org/songlocator-base
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14:24:15  <mmalecki>this isn't correct :/
14:24:26  <mmalecki>andreypopp: I'm escalating this presently
14:24:58  <andreypopp>mmalecki: heh…
14:25:29  <andreypopp>mmalecki: also login via persona doesn't work with irisnpm — it simply does nothing at the moment
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14:27:07  <mmalecki>andreypopp: emailed Jason. I'm switching our build server to use public registry for the time being
14:27:22  <andreypopp>mmalecki: thank you very much
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14:31:52  <mmalecki>andreypopp: done. can you please confirm it works?
14:32:16  <andreypopp>mmalecki: yeah, just deployed an app, thanks!
14:32:45  <mmalecki>andreypopp: pleasure. I'll make sure this doesn't happen anymore. sorry for your problems.
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14:33:11  <andreypopp>mmalecki: np, nodejitsu is awesome
14:33:29  <mmalecki><3
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15:24:24  <maasan>how node js application scaled into multiple drones? I studied from Nodejitsu documents that NO NEED for cluster API.
15:25:23  <mmalecki>maasan: this is correct. our load balancers distribute traffic across your drones
15:26:04  <maasan>did you use http-node-proxy?
15:26:47  <mmalecki>yup, we use http-proxy
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15:28:25  <maasan>okay. Still i am not clear that every drone runs it own version of my node js application
15:28:40  <mmalecki>maasan: yeah, it runs its own process
15:28:55  <mmalecki>thus, if you keep state in your app, you need to synchronize it across drones
15:29:42  <maasan>okay. Thats what i want to ask. I used express with session middleware. It says that it stores all session in memory. In that will that be problem in multi drones?
15:30:19  <mmalecki>maasan: we try to avoid the problem by sending the same source IP to the same drone all the time, but it might become a problem
15:30:29  <mmalecki>maasan: I'd recommend using redis session store
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15:31:39  <maasan>Thanks. Final thought : We have to use Redis server for session when going for multiple drones
15:33:56  <jcrugzz>maasan: yes, and its usually a good idea to use redis for sessions anyway :)
15:34:48  <maasan>okay Thanks :)
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16:36:18  <jaha>do we have access to sendmail in nodejitsu
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16:39:08  <jcrugzz>jaha: i do not believe so. I personally use sendgrid with https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-sendgrid-web
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16:42:05  <kmoney>any known deployment issues right now?
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16:42:30  <kmoney>I'm getting Rackspace Error 404
16:43:24  <jcrugzz>kmoney: check your snapshots and see if what you deployed is in there
16:43:43  <jaha>jcrugzz: thanks, normally i dont use sendmail, was just curious for some simple messaging
16:44:18  <jcrugzz>jaha: np :)
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16:45:46  <kmoney>jcrugzz: yep. looks like I can start it from the web console. It's just failing on the jitsu deploy. 4 times
16:46:34  <jcrugzz>kmoney: yea its an issue with cloudfiles being slow. just activate the snapshot and run a `jitsu start`
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16:46:57  <kmoney>jcrugzz: cool. thanks. that worked.
16:46:58  <dberkom>Got a deployment error: https://gist.github.com/danielberkompas/29156b19eb70daa4c413
16:47:09  <dberkom>app: meal-planner
16:47:12  <kmoney>heh. welcome to the party
16:47:16  <dberkom>:-)
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16:48:25  <jcrugzz>dberkom: your app should be in your snapshots. just activate it and run a `jitsu start`
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16:49:32  <kmoney>jcrugzz: Set that message to paste on join.
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16:51:42  <jcrugzz>kmoney: it shouldnt be consistent. the correct message from rackspace is just getting hung up in the network traffic
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16:54:48  <dberkom>Okay, looks like restarting worked
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16:56:57  <jcrugzz>dberkom: glad it worked :).
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17:01:22  <nathan7>Meal-planner.. I could use that
17:02:56  <deoxxa>i could just use a meal about now
17:03:42  <jcrugzz>a replicator would be so useful
17:04:00  <jcrugzz>as humans we gotta step up our technology game
17:04:38  <deoxxa>sign me up
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17:05:59  <jcrugzz>i think this open source idea may get us there
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17:09:39  <nathan7>jcrugzz: I need to convince my RepRap to make me dinner
17:09:55  <deoxxa>"this tastes terrible"
17:10:11  <jcrugzz>lol
17:10:22  <jcrugzz>nathan7: not sure if it can input the correct material
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17:21:07  <rei__g>Hello, does anyone know if nodejitsu supports mailgun/mailparser?
17:22:01  <blakmatrix>rei__g: I could check real quick
17:22:39  <coderarity>mmalecki: can you remove me from the channel access list? or has it already been done?
17:22:41  <rei__g>Thanks I'm trying to deploy and I'm getting a rack space error. Not sure of its because of that .
17:22:58  <coderarity>i think next time irccloud goes down i'll probably end up as an op again
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17:23:28  <jcrugzz>rei__g: no it wont be from that
17:23:50  <jcrugzz>if your deploy gave you a rackspace 404: item not found, check your app's snapshots
17:23:54  <Sly>lulz.
17:24:04  <mmalecki>coderarity: I don't know how to do that. I'll askAvianFlu
17:24:18  <coderarity>okay
17:24:25  <rei__g>I usually try several times until it passes but its been stuck there
17:24:26  <coderarity>it'
17:24:34  <coderarity>it's probably just a matter of PMing some freenode bot
17:25:06  <jcrugzz>rei__g: if you check your snapshots, you should see your latest deploy. and if you activate it, and run a `jitsu start` it will work
17:25:47  <rei__g>jcrugzz: Trying to activate now
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17:28:25  <rei__g>jcrugzz: Ok now... Thanks. Mailgun mailparser mailcomposer all good
17:28:37  <jcrugzz>rei__g: awesome :)
17:28:52  <rei__g>Thx
17:29:17  <jcrugzz>np
17:30:52  <coderarity>thanks
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18:03:56  <Sly>CODERARITY
18:04:05  <coderarity>sup
18:04:10  <Sly>Hai.
18:04:13  <coderarity>hi
18:04:27  <Sly>How are you?
18:04:44  <coderarity>good, building a linux from scratch
18:04:53  <Sly>Nice.
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18:12:22  <mmalecki>https://twitter.com/maciejmalecki/status/311540140663271424
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18:15:41  <khan>which basis node-http-proxy balances request between drones
18:17:12  <nathan7>mmalecki[away]: .split('.').map(Number).reduce(function(acc, cur) { return (acc << 8) | cur }, 0)
18:20:39  <nathan7>mmalecki[away]: (that's IP to int)
18:21:09  <khan>Is that an answer to my question?
18:21:57  <nathan7>No
18:22:14  <nathan7>I'm not familiar enough with node-http-proxy's insides to answer this
18:23:49  <khan>Okay. one for doubt: I come to know that Same Source IP will always be redirect to same drones to overcome the session issue. Is that right?
18:24:45  <nathan7>Yeah, sticky sessions
18:24:58  <nathan7>It's still a good idea to store your sessions in redis or something
18:26:48  <khan>Okay, Thanks. We will use Redis. Still i have doubt in Sticky session. User IP will not be static, it will be changed dynamically. How sticky session will behave? will IP changes break the sticky session?
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18:30:37  <nathan7>khan: Yes.
18:30:43  <nathan7>khan: Sticky sessions are by IP
18:31:09  <khan>Okay
18:32:02  <khan>+nathan7 thanks :)
18:32:08  <nathan7>Happy to help [=
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20:21:53  <aadchrom>hello?
20:22:04  <blakmatrix>hey
20:22:07  <aadchrom>hey there
20:22:25  <aadchrom>trying to deploy a test app I've got running locally
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20:22:49  <aadchrom>just an express.js tutorial app
20:22:59  <aadchrom>I tried my first deploy
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20:24:00  <aadchrom>no bueno
20:24:22  <blakmatrix>aadchrom: got a gist of the erro jitsu gave you ?
20:24:49  <aadchrom>apologies, just gave it another shot
20:24:51  <aadchrom>same command
20:24:53  <aadchrom>totally worked
20:24:56  <aadchrom>sorry
20:24:57  <aadchrom>and thanks
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20:53:02  <mmalecki>nathan7: I'm aware, mine is faster tho
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21:07:50  <ProLoser>hallo
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21:09:05  <jcrugzz>hey
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21:12:02  <ProLoser>i just submitted an OS app
21:12:07  <ProLoser>it is for the IRC bot for #angular.js
21:12:12  <ProLoser>would be nice to get it approved lol
21:12:17  <ProLoser>the bot is down atm
21:12:52  <ProLoser>proloser unibot
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21:15:14  <blakmatrix>ProLoser: should work now
21:15:33  <ProLoser>yay
21:15:33  <ProLoser>danke
21:15:53  <blakmatrix>ProLoser: should think about getting a individual plan
21:15:54  <ProLoser>works! thanks
21:16:02  <ProLoser>for?
21:16:13  <blakmatrix>if you like our service
21:16:18  <ProLoser>ah
21:16:26  <ProLoser>this is the only node app i have
21:16:36  <blakmatrix>oh nvm
21:16:39  <ProLoser>if i plan to get into personal apps for node i will def consider it
21:16:57  <blakmatrix>OS = Open soource not operating system LOL
21:17:23  <ProLoser>you thought i meant operating system?
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21:18:32  <blakmatrix>yeah.. I'm not on the open source project that julianduque and ana's side of things, they should get back to you if they approve it
21:18:55  <ProLoser>so you just overrode the paid hosting?
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21:18:57  <ProLoser>or did you just restart?
21:19:13  <blakmatrix>ProLoser: no just extended your sandbox for now
21:19:16  <coderarity>i wonder what google is gonna give the I/O attendees this year
21:19:20  <coderarity>chromebook pixel/
21:19:27  <coderarity>(i doubt it :P)
21:19:34  <blakmatrix>coderarity: google glasses
21:19:40  <ProLoser>danke
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21:19:51  <blakmatrix>ProLoser: bitte
21:20:49  <coderarity>blakmatrix: lol
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21:20:53  <coderarity>those are like, $10k
21:21:09  <blakmatrix>coderarity: one can dream right
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21:21:33  <blakmatrix>besides they gots the money lol
21:21:43  <coderarity>they do
21:21:59  <blakmatrix>and wats a little bit of money to frree advertizing lol
21:22:06  <coderarity>it might even be advantageous to them to increase the developer pool
21:22:17  <coderarity>they've demonstrated that they are interested in that
21:22:24  <coderarity>still, i doubt it's worth the investment
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21:27:37  <blakmatrix>coderarity: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f3b4/
21:30:37  <coderarity>blakmatrix: pretty cool
21:30:48  <coderarity>it's too bad that my little pony gear attracts people i don't want to be around
21:30:57  <coderarity>not that that will stop me from wearing it :P
21:31:06  <blakmatrix>like who ?
21:31:09  <blakmatrix>kids?
21:31:18  <coderarity>nah, lots of people don't like bronies
21:31:26  <coderarity>i had a friend who got into bronies a lot
21:31:28  <coderarity>like too much
21:31:30  <coderarity>i don't talk to him anymore
21:31:41  <coderarity>i like my little pony
21:31:43  <coderarity>i dun like bronies
21:31:47  <blakmatrix>lol
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21:32:58  <coderarity>i guess a lot of people don't just watch the show because it's a good show anymore
21:33:08  <coderarity>lots of bronies just watch it because they think it makes them cool
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21:33:17  <coderarity>and I highly dislike people who think like that
21:33:32  <blakmatrix>i never saw it on tv
21:33:40  <coderarity>and I think that the people who are making my little pony let it get to their heads
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21:33:51  <coderarity>anyways, it's a sad situation
21:34:04  <blakmatrix>i watched a few eps.. was ok.. but a lttle to kidsy, I like my dr,who and star trek thank you :P
21:34:20  <coderarity>i was thinking about watching dr. who]
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21:47:11  <adchrom>hi there, having trouble deploying a simple tutorial app
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21:47:17  <adchrom>hangs on uploading for a good long time
21:47:23  <adchrom>finally times out
21:47:29  <adchrom>anyone have a sec to help me out?
21:47:39  <andreacode>same here, anyway
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21:49:16  <adchrom>https://gist.github.com/aadchrom/5147397
21:50:06  <blakmatrix>andreacode: adchrom: did you try running that command it suggested `jitsu config set timeout 100000`
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21:50:19  <andreacode>yes, still same error..
21:51:41  <adchrom>yes
21:51:49  <adchrom>continues to timeout
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21:52:06  <adchrom>just takes longer to do so
21:52:35  <blakmatrix>adchrom: sec
21:54:23  <andreacode>uhm, looks like the snapshot is loaded anyway
21:54:57  <andreacode>just had a look at https://webops.nodejitsu.com/apps/alivIDE and the snapshot is there, but archived. I just activated it, let's see if it works fine
21:56:02  <adchrom>ah
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21:59:48  <blakmatrix>adchrom: andreacode: I am having devops investigate
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22:00:21  <andreacode>oh great, let us know!
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22:06:13  <coderarity>guys
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22:06:33  <coderarity>i think we should add 86000 tests to forever
22:06:48  <coderarity>if gcc can do it so can we
22:06:54  <jcrugzz|afk>coderarity: so many no one can keep track?
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22:07:09  <coderarity>it's possible to keep track of
22:07:11  <coderarity>the gcc people do
22:07:27  <coderarity>they probably generate a lot of those tests
22:07:33  <coderarity>or all of them
22:07:39  <jcrugzz>id hope so
22:07:48  <hallas>hey guys, is it possible for my deployment to last very long on upload (even at 100%) ? I have some images in my package
22:07:55  <coderarity>there can't be more than 100 test files here
22:08:10  <jcrugzz>hallas: yea its possible
22:08:20  <jcrugzz>coderarity: thatst not too bad then
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22:08:26  <blakmatrix>hallas: its an issue we are currnetly looking into
22:08:39  <hallas>jcrugzz blakmatrix you advice me to wait it out?
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22:09:17  <hallas>timeout :-(
22:10:04  <coderarity>hallas: when it's at 100%, that means the upload is finished
22:10:07  <coderarity>it doesn't mean the deploy is done
22:11:49  <blakmatrix>hallas: do a `jitsu snapshots activate` it should have loaded your snapshot
22:12:16  <blakmatrix>coderarity: the deploy is hanging for users
22:12:36  <hallas>Cool
22:12:47  <hallas>Works :-)
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22:16:02  <andreacode>it works as well for me, hangs after the upload, then timeout, but I have the snapshot, and I can activate it. Kinda weird, but working! ;)
22:16:34  <jcrugzz>andreacode: glad you got it to work :) they are working to smooth it out
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22:31:42  <coderarity>blakmatrix: i know
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23:06:16  <kimpettersen>Hey! I just got a timeout problem when trying to deploy my app.I got an email saying: Your application was crash looping! and when I go the the page it says: An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"} Does anyone have an idea what this might be?
23:08:08  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: whats your app/username?
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23:08:36  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: angularcv
23:08:46  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: username = kim.a.pettersen
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23:13:04  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: could you try running a `jitsu deploy --debug` and pm me a gist of the output?
23:13:16  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: For sure!
23:13:27  <jcrugzz>there have been some issues with rackspace and retrieving the snapshot so want to get some more data on what could be happening
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23:18:57  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: Yeah, I got the rackspace error yesterday. It takes a few mins before it times out https://gist.github.com/kimpettersen/d164c14cb1003df15368
23:22:31  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: can you try increasing your timeout to 240000?
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23:24:32  <jcrugzz>also did you check your logs regarding why it was crash looping?
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23:27:05  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: Oh, it says authentication error. But I can connect locally!?
23:27:47  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: I mean: MongoError: auth fails
23:30:24  <jcrugzz>id check the your connection credentials and make sure you can connect to your prod instance locally
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23:32:03  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: I am managing my own db at mongolab, so I'm not using the one generated here. I can access the db locally. And I just created the user all over again, and it seem like I have the same problem
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23:32:27  <Sly>OMG NEXXY
23:32:37  <Sly>WHUR R U!?!
23:33:22  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: you can access the mongolab db np locally?
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23:33:24  <sberryma_>and backups on the build server?
23:33:41  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: yes, both read and write
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23:35:18  <sberryman>blakmatrix: you around?
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23:36:00  <blakmatrix>sberryman: hey
23:36:18  <sberryman>builds seem to be talking an EXTRA long time right now
23:36:52  <defunctzombie>indexzero: why you hate me :'(
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23:37:08  <indexzero>defunctzombie: I don't
23:37:13  <defunctzombie><3
23:37:25  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: hmm that is quite odd. did the extra timeout time help with the deploy?
23:38:07  <sberryman>blakmatrix: i cant actually get a build to go through right now even with the insanely long timeout (jitsu config set timeout 100000)
23:38:31  <Sly>sberryman: 100000 is less than the default.
23:38:36  <Sly>240000 is the default of 4 minutes
23:38:41  <sberryman>haha, really?
23:38:41  <jcrugzz>sberryman: i believe he is looking into that issue currently :)
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23:38:43  <Sly>Yeah
23:38:53  <sberryman>you guys should change the example message then :)
23:38:54  <jcrugzz>but try the 4 minute timeout first
23:39:03  <Sly>sberryman: where at?
23:39:21  <coderarity>most people who set it to a million are okay
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23:39:23  <sberryman>Sly: https://gist.github.com/sberryman/4771ac86b231aacf0ab0
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23:39:40  <Sly>Ah. Looks like someone forgot an extra 0.
23:39:44  <blakmatrix>sberryman: theres been an issue we are investigating... some people have been using th ework around to activate the snapshot they just uploaded though
23:39:46  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: yes, I added 240000 timeout. didnt change anything
23:39:47  <coderarity>lol
23:39:50  <Sly>Probably meant 1000000 as coderarity mentioned.
23:40:14  <sberryman>yeah, you guys forgot a 0 in the example
23:41:06  <Sly>sberryman: I'll make sure it's fixed in 0.12.4
23:41:32  <Sly>As long as no one gets to that version before I do. xD
23:41:39  <sberryman>haha
23:42:09  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: well since thats actually the default try setting it to 1000000 and try again for me :)
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23:43:01  <coderarity>it's only been broken for a month: https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/commit/c2c587ebb1a73340cdb8a3bf3ffb0f1daf4ca51c
23:43:04  <blakmatrix>kimpettersen: I found why your app was chrash looping: error: MongoError: auth fails
23:43:06  <sberryman>the timeout doesn't cause a cancel in build does it?
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23:43:27  <sberryman>i don't see the snapshot showing up so maybe it does
23:43:39  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz:Doing it right now.
23:43:44  <Sly>sberryman: depends on what kind of timeout it is.
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23:43:50  <Sly>If it happens after the snapshot uploads, probably not.
23:43:56  <Sly>Cause the job is already sent to the build server..
23:43:58  <Sly>afaik
23:44:04  <kimpettersen>blakmatrix: Yup, I know of that error, but the authentication works locally
23:44:08  <sberryman>setting that config var is the timeout client side right?
23:44:18  <Sly>Yeah
23:45:02  <blakmatrix>kimpettersen: I'm just saying thats whats caused your app to crash loop
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23:45:25  <blakmatrix>kimpettersen: we'd have to see your code to be of furhter help
23:45:50  <kimpettersen>blakmatrix: Ah, ok. Can you take the snapshot again?
23:45:58  <sberryman>ahh, the version just showed up
23:46:06  <sberryman>must be a big backlog on the build queue
23:49:19  <Sly>Ow.. metal splinters in my finger that I just found..
23:49:25  <Sly>Got one out..
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23:52:35  <kimpettersen>jcrugzz: changing the timeout didnt change it
23:53:09  <jcrugzz>kimpettersen: can you see if your app made it into your snapshots?
23:53:29  <Sly>kimpettersen: what's your username and app name?
23:53:47  <Sly>nvm, see it in your gist.
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23:53:54  <kimpettersen>Sly: kim.a.pettersen, angularcv
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23:57:10  <sberryman>Sly: I can confirm a 300,000 sec timeout on deploy is failing but it eventually makes it to the snapshots list
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23:57:30  <sberryman>and activating from the snapshot list is working
23:58:50  <Sly>kimpettersen: I'm not seeing anything in your code that looks strange, provided that the Mongo login you're using actually works.
23:59:19  <Sly>kimpettersen: It makes it hard to give you any kind of help with the database, because it's not one that we use. So I can't just look up what you're supposed to be connecting with to see if it's right.