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00:06:18  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: it will be ok
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00:06:59  <kenperkins>jcrugzz: I'm just afraid we're going to have to ditch nock entirely because of it's robustness problems
00:07:04  <kenperkins>which I'm dreading.
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00:08:06  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: yea nock is picky about where the keys are located in the object because of how it compares things
00:08:14  <jcrugzz>if i remember correctly
00:09:46  <kenperkins>it's not even that, it's inconsistent
00:10:00  <kenperkins>as in, it appears exceptionally susceptible to parallel or very tight timing requests
00:10:21  <kenperkins>i.e. two successive runs result in different outcomes
00:12:00  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: hmm yea thats annoying
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00:15:53  <kenperkins>yep
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00:23:05  <kenperkins>i think it's time to investigate our own server.
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00:24:42  <mmalecki>kenperkins: hahahaha, it always ends like that, doesn't it?
00:24:52  <kenperkins>can I have that beer now
00:25:01  <kenperkins>I think I'm going to crack a bottle chard
00:25:05  <kenperkins>I deserve that right?
00:25:13  <kenperkins>bottle of chardonnay that is
00:25:20  <mmalecki>are you on https://hashpay.com/?
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00:27:24  <mmalecki>if not, where are you based :) ?
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00:28:46  <kenperkins>I'm in Seattle, what's that?
00:28:57  <kenperkins>https://twitter.com/kenperkins/status/327579739139211264
00:29:24  <kenperkins>mmalecki: interesting :D
00:29:29  <kenperkins>what I really need is https://hashbeer.com
00:29:37  <kenperkins>with immediate fullfilment
00:29:51  <mmalecki>that's a startup idea I'm willing to put my money into
00:32:16  <kenperkins>+1
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00:35:28  <mmalecki>kenperkins: we should quit our fulltime jobs and put whole life investments into hashbeer.com
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00:36:21  <kenperkins>will I offend you to say I love german beer the most?
00:36:48  <kenperkins>mmalecki: the good news, is using a real HTTP server means our code *must* be better factored than currently, to enable custom endpoints for all providers
00:37:26  <mmalecki>yeah
00:37:42  <mmalecki>I should really put some time into making this actual http mocking framework
00:37:55  <mmalecki>but my head is blowing up right now
00:38:31  <kenperkins>you have something started already?
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00:39:33  <kenperkins>I know how that goes
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00:41:41  <mmalecki>kenperkins: actually, I'm not getting any work done tonight anyway
00:41:58  <mmalecki>kenperkins: give me an hour and we can start scheming out http mocking?
00:42:28  <kenperkins>:(
00:42:33  <kenperkins>I have my girls coming home in about 15
00:42:48  <kenperkins>isn't it like 3 am?
00:42:53  <mmalecki>it is
00:43:03  <kenperkins>you're insane
00:43:05  <mmalecki>I go to sleep at around 6 AM these days anyway
00:43:07  <kenperkins>you must be young still
00:43:09  <kenperkins>25?
00:43:11  <mmalecki>I'm 19
00:43:13  <kenperkins>ha
00:43:17  <kenperkins>I can't do it anymore
00:43:23  <kenperkins>I used to code till any hour of the day
00:43:45  <kenperkins>the difference is though, when I wake up at 6, girls are gone by 7:30am. I code like a fucking maniac
00:43:53  <kenperkins>8am to noon is power hours
00:44:42  <mmalecki>yeah, that's true, dawn is a nice time of a day
00:45:34  <kenperkins>as you grow ripe like me, you start to refocus
00:45:43  <kenperkins>that said, being productive gets EASIER after kids
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00:46:12  <mmalecki>oh does it? I'm barely able to work when my gf is home
00:46:36  <jcrugzz>mmalecki: well yea cause other part of your brain is interested in other things
00:46:58  <mmalecki>that's true too
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00:48:36  <mmalecki>I really shouldn't have taken double dose
00:48:49  <jcrugzz>mmalecki: make sure you are hydrated and get some sleep man
00:49:34  <mmalecki>jcrugzz: yeah, that's the problem, this thing renders you unable to sleep
00:53:21  <mmalecki>now the only water that's left in the fridge is the water with this stuff in it
00:53:37  * mmaleckialmost made the mistake
00:53:43  <jcrugzz>oh boy
00:53:45  <jcrugzz>yea
00:53:48  <jcrugzz>dont do that
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01:02:14  <kenperkins>this wine is pretty nice
01:02:20  <kenperkins>mmalecki: so should we use express? or roll our own?
01:03:02  <mmalecki>kenperkins: framework is too much here, isn't it? I'd say a simple http server would do
01:03:21  <kenperkins>maybe
01:03:28  <kenperkins>it's a tradeoff
01:03:37  <kenperkins>between heavyweight and having to write alot ourselves
01:03:53  <mmalecki>kenperkins: do you want a nock-like API?
01:03:57  <jcrugzz>writing a simple router shouldnt be too bad.
01:04:07  <mmalecki>I kind of like it
01:04:49  <mmalecki>we don't even need a router
01:05:57  <kenperkins>doh!
01:06:00  <kenperkins> kids are home
01:06:00  <kenperkins>bbiab
01:06:07  <mmalecki>sure, have fun :)
01:06:36  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: later
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01:50:27  <kenperkins>mmalecki: IM me your initial thoughts
01:50:29  <kenperkins>I'll start working on it
01:51:25  <mmalecki>kenperkins: sure. my pain is gone so I'm just grabbing my pants and starting my workday
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02:10:28  <Monkey>HI All
02:11:27  <Monkey>Newbie question when deploying first app to nodejitsu - Error: Cannot find module 'node-localstorage' - is there a trick to getting all the modules included
02:11:29  <Monkey>?
02:12:16  <jcrugzz>Moneky: when you install any module do an `npm install module --save`
02:12:38  <jcrugzz>it will automatically add it to your package.json which is used in deploying your app (to figure out modules/subdomain etc)
02:13:28  <Monkey>Ah wicked - cheers :)
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02:16:45  <cendrizzi>Hi all, does nodejitsu allow file access and stuff? I've never seen any limits anywhere or anything
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02:22:43  <third>hello, I'm having a problem deploying my app
02:22:59  <third>here's the gist https://gist.github.com/third/570d0f086aaa40d11b6b
02:23:00  <Nexxy>third, have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
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02:23:22  <third>unplugging??
02:24:53  <mmalecki>Nexxy: hello there!
02:25:25  <Nexxy>mmalecki, hey :")
02:25:42  <mmalecki>Nexxy: how's it going?
02:25:48  <Nexxy>fucking fantasti
02:25:50  <Nexxy>+c
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02:25:52  <Nexxy>and you?
02:26:28  <mmalecki>Nexxy: if you dig deep enough into my twitter stream, you'll know!
02:26:40  <mmalecki>Nexxy: but it wore off already
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02:26:47  <Nexxy>ohh
02:26:49  <mmalecki>so I'm doing okay, I suppose
02:27:36  <mmalecki>Nexxy: do you happen to be going to jsconf?
02:27:45  <Nexxy>no ._.
02:28:11  <mmalecki>ohh :(
02:28:46  <Nexxy>I KNOW!!
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02:29:20  <mmalecki>Nexxy: it'll be okay!
02:29:44  <Nexxy>mmalecki, I will be @ nodeconf though
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02:39:53  <mmalecki>Nexxy: I seem to be missing this one :(
02:40:02  <Nexxy>._.
02:40:05  <Nexxy>double ._.
02:40:07  <Nexxy>._. ._.
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02:52:46  <kenperkins>nodeconf ftw
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03:00:30  <kenperkins>conversation killer
03:01:00  <Nexxy>kenperkins, \o/
03:01:09  <kenperkins>o/
03:01:14  <kenperkins>don't think imma make nodepdx
03:01:18  <kenperkins>too much travel around it
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03:12:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] opsmezzo/quill#6 (master - 9e64680 : indexzero): The build passed.
03:12:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/opsmezzo/quill/compare/3e68f53e08cc...9e6468085544
03:12:35  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/opsmezzo/quill/builds/6649412
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03:26:23  <vlad__>Hi. I'm not sure what this deploy error means: https://gist.github.com/vbukhin/8f2af63453992a21e816
03:27:01  <mmalecki>vlad__: hi :). what are you using as engines.node?
03:27:06  <mmalecki>(in package.json)
03:27:34  <vlad__>0.8.x
03:28:35  <mmalecki>hmm, okay. mind showing me `jitsu deploy --debug` output?
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03:35:10  <vlad__>mmalecki: same gist
03:36:00  <mmalecki>whole output please :)
03:36:14  <mmalecki>ah, same gist, I see
03:36:15  <mmalecki>thank you
03:36:29  <mmalecki>vlad__: engines: { node: '0.10.x' }
03:37:14  <mmalecki>vlad__: 0.10.x isn't supported yet (I'm pretty sure that this or next release should be very soon tho. I still have to reasearch if terribly crypto performance was fixed)
03:37:23  <mmalecki>vlad__: if you set that to 0.8.x that should work tho
03:37:53  <vlad__>yeah, i just saw that...."I use penv and I changed the wrong package.json.. Thanks!
03:38:36  <mmalecki>no problem :)
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03:40:53  <vlad__>If you have an individual plan, is there a cap on number of apps? I have the 5 drones indiv plan.
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03:42:38  <vlad__>I just just decreased number of drones from 3->2 on an app and its giving me a subscription limit error when i deploy.
03:42:52  <vlad__>Sorry, when i deploy a different app
03:43:14  <vlad__>Does it take time to register the decrease of drones on an app?
03:44:36  <mmalecki>it shouldn't... so you decrease from 3 -> 2 and are deploying one drone?
03:45:49  <vlad__>yes. Well I'm creating an app -> So I'm assuming one drone.
03:46:31  <mmalecki>sure :). what's your account name? I'll give it a look
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03:49:54  <vlad__>how do you do the private message again?
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03:55:15  <vlad__>I decreased it another drone and it seems to be working now.
03:59:33  <kenperkins>you never pm'd me mmalecki
03:59:35  <kenperkins>you suck
03:59:36  <mmalecki>vlad__: it's being looked into now
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04:00:09  <mmalecki>kenperkins: tell me what to make for breakfast when I only have broccoli in my fridge
04:00:15  <mmalecki>and I'll tell you my API ideas
04:00:16  <mmalecki>lol
04:00:19  <jwe4>got error with jitsu deploy ...
04:00:22  <mmalecki>seriously tho, pm'ing you now
04:00:25  <kenperkins>Fried broccoly
04:00:29  <kenperkins>olive oils
04:00:32  <kenperkins>salt pepper and parm
04:00:44  <mmalecki>now we're talking
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04:47:40  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] nodejitsu/pkgcloud#44 (master - b451e56 : indexzero): The build is still failing.
04:47:40  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/pkgcloud/compare/32fa89876d24...b451e56416cb
04:47:40  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/pkgcloud/builds/6650629
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05:01:17  <vlad__>Theoretically if I get a nodejitsu business account I can communicate with couch redis within the same datacenter?
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05:59:29  <dexcell>hi nodejitsu team
06:00:01  <dexcell>, ive got 502 socket hang up/ reached max retries limit on my server right now
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06:28:10  <nathan7>vlad__: Yep
06:28:33  <nathan7>vlad__: http://npmjs.org/iris-redis
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06:39:14  <ranga>Hi - I am getting failed to connect localhost:27017 mongodb error..after i stop and deploy new version..There seems to be a schema change..Hence i cleaned up the database and tried
06:39:43  <ranga>In local machine, mongodb repair after removing lock file may solve this issuee..
06:39:54  <ranga>But wondering how to solve it now..As i am connected to mongodblab
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06:40:18  <ranga>any help...Nathan/mmalecki/Yawnt
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06:43:02  <ranga>anyone out there ?
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06:43:40  <nathan7>I don't actually know MongoDB well enough for this :|
06:44:18  <mmalecki>ranga: if you are getting "failed to connect localhost:27017", you might be connecting to localhost in production
06:44:37  <mmalecki>but other than that, I'm not really skilled with MongoDB either
06:45:26  <ranga>localhost in production ?
06:45:56  <mmalecki>where are you seeing the "failed to connect localhost:27017" error?
06:45:59  <ranga>i am connecting mongoose.connect to the URL
06:46:02  <mmalecki>when deploying?
06:46:03  <ranga>in console log
06:46:12  <ranga>no..While running jitsu logs all
06:46:29  <mmalecki>so you are trying to connect to localhost in your deployed app
06:46:38  <mmalecki>you should use mongolab URL instead
06:47:28  <ranga>yep..
06:47:32  <ranga>using the same :-)
06:48:54  <mmalecki>I mean, make sure to check that, if you are seeing that pop up in logs it has to be trying to connect to localhost
06:48:56  <ranga>same url used manytimes
06:49:13  <ranga>i cross checked it..
06:52:20  <ranga>i have not dropped the indexes in mongodb..
06:52:38  <ranga>but ofcourse, index is not changed.. Any idea..can i drop index
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07:05:04  <dexcell>hi
07:08:42  <dexcell>hello nodejitsu team
07:09:11  <dexcell>i am experiencing socket hang up
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07:13:20  <dileep>hello noders
07:13:35  <dileep>have some questions about nodemailer
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07:18:38  <dileep>nodemailer is good to work with?any ideas
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08:55:13  <CoverSlide>dileep: yes
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09:03:58  <booyaa>y0
09:05:46  <nathan7>'moin
09:05:51  <nathan7>'sup in londonland?
09:06:48  <dileep>Coverslide: you have used that
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09:19:42  <dileep>node-mailer is best to work or Haraka or simple smtp with node parser...
09:20:01  <nathan7>Sendgrid is pretty convenient
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09:42:02  <booyaa>dudes re callback patterns and exceptions. it's a good idea to let errors bubble up i.e. cb(new Error('OHNOES! NO INTERNETS!))
09:42:24  <booyaa>but should you throw exceptions for stuff unexpected errors?
09:42:52  <booyaa>i'll have a process.on('uncaughtException') with an exit at the end obvs
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09:43:30  <booyaa>let errors that you can handle bubble up i.e. the server will return a http 500 if gets a callback with an error object
09:44:22  <nathan7>throwing is rarely a good idea in callback-land
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09:46:42  <maasan>In Nodejitsu, i have added SSL to my app
09:47:44  <booyaa>cheers nathan7
09:48:21  <maasan>But still in firefox, it says that it hasnot been verified by recoginized authority using a secure signature
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12:48:46  <Sten_>hi
12:48:53  <Sten_>getting a socket hang up error
12:48:59  <Sten_>500
12:49:07  <Sten_>error #
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12:52:46  <Sten_>error #500 internal server error, socket hang up
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12:56:49  <Swaagie>Sten_, hey there what is your username/appname?
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12:58:08  <Sten_>hey
12:58:10  <Sten_>sorry
12:58:15  <Sten_>sten_muchow
12:58:21  <Sten_>app is collab-board
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13:01:32  <Swaagie>Sten_, I'm seeing the app normally, http://sten_muchow-collab.jit.su/ right?
13:01:45  <Sten_>yes
13:01:53  <Sten_>i am tryin to upload a new one
13:01:58  <Swaagie>ah kk
13:01:59  <Sten_>and it keeps throwin this error
13:02:03  <Swaagie>how often did you try?
13:02:09  <Sten_>pfff
13:02:11  <Swaagie>that seems like more than once ;)
13:02:13  <Sten_>lets say 5- 7 times
13:02:17  <Sten_>hahahaha
13:02:20  <Sten_>yep
13:02:27  <Sten_>indeed it does
13:03:07  <Sten_>my normal machine crashed today so i am on a different one dunno if the settings or anythign have to do with it
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13:03:38  <Swaagie>doubt it
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13:05:02  <Sten_>ok good to know anyways
13:05:07  <Swaagie>Sten_, could you retry, I cleared some orphans and it seems the actual pool of free servers was very low
13:05:19  <Sten_>deployinh
13:05:48  <Sten_>nada
13:05:53  <Sten_>same thing - 500
13:05:57  <Swaagie>k sec gonna restart something
13:06:04  <Sten_>okidoki
13:09:49  <Swaagie>Sten_, could you retry again please, and if it still does not work gist me the full error output of the command line?
13:10:02  <Sten_>ok
13:10:50  <Sten_>nothing again
13:11:33  <Sten_>error: Error running command deploy error: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error error: socket hang up
13:12:50  <Swaagie>could you https://gist.github.com/ or pastebin me all output thats there?
13:14:07  <Sten_>https://gist.github.com/stenmuchow/5467284
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13:14:51  <Swaagie>Sten_, when did you upgrade to node 0.10.5?
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13:15:25  <Sten_>i guess this morning when i had to install node on this pc
13:15:29  <Swaagie>I'm not sure it wouldn't work but officially we do not support 0.10.x yet
13:15:40  <Sten_>before i think the computer was on 10.2
13:15:55  <Swaagie>hmm ye we did patch some stuff up till atleast 10.4 I believe
13:15:58  <nathan7>Swaagie: we don't?
13:16:06  <nathan7>jitsu is 0.10-ready *AFAIK*
13:16:13  <nathan7>we did a bunch of patching, yeah
13:16:14  <Swaagie>it should be
13:16:36  <nathan7>we don't support 0.10 on our cloud, but jitsu should be 0.10-ready
13:16:43  <nathan7>I haven't used 0.8 in a while
13:16:48  <Swaagie>k waiting for
13:17:13  <Swaagie>another solution/direction then
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13:19:31  <nathan7>Sten_: could you run that with --debug?
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13:19:42  <Sten_>yep
13:20:29  <nathan7>and gist output
13:21:23  <Sten_>https://gist.github.com/stenmuchow/5467284
13:21:25  <Sten_>done
13:23:54  <nathan7>Sten_: jitsu logout, jitsu login
13:24:02  <nathan7>something odd is going on with auth I think
13:24:26  <Swaagie>it atleast is not returning a nice 401 not authorized if nathan7 is right ;)
13:24:53  <Swaagie>something we should look into atleast, unhandled errors are not nice
13:25:00  <nathan7>yes
13:25:22  <nathan7>jitsu apps list should show the same behaviour if auth is the problem
13:25:34  <nathan7>It's happening on app:show, it's a different machine, probably a token issue
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13:27:17  <Sten_>ok
13:27:18  <Sten_>trying
13:27:36  <Sten_>same thing
13:27:40  <Sten_>with the login logout
13:27:44  <nathan7>okay
13:27:48  <nathan7>can you try doing a jitsu apps list?
13:28:28  <nathan7>I don't see sten_muchow/collab-board actually, only sten_muchow/collab
13:28:48  <nathan7>and sten_muchow/angular-collab-board
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13:29:28  <Sten_>one sec
13:29:50  <Sten_>sten_muchow-collab
13:30:47  <Sten_>i will gist the apps list
13:31:05  <Sten_>https://gist.github.com/stenmuchow/5467284
13:32:04  <Sten_>boom
13:32:10  <Sten_>i just updated my dependencies
13:32:16  <Sten_>seems to work now
13:32:24  <Sten_>uploaded and all
13:32:28  <nathan7>sweet
13:32:36  <Sten_>thanks alot!
13:32:38  <nathan7>*but* we have a bug to fix, it seems
13:32:42  <Sten_>appreciate the help
13:32:46  <Sten_>well there u gop
13:32:53  <Sten_>happy friday to u
13:32:56  <Sten_>haha
13:32:58  <nathan7>Better a bug found than one lingering q=
13:33:05  <Sten_>indeed
13:33:05  <Swaagie>^^ :)
13:33:18  <Sten_>thanks again.... until the next time!
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14:29:44  <kenperkins>morning
14:31:06  <nathan7>'moin
14:31:30  * nathan7hands kenperkins a purple bling suit
14:31:31  <nathan7>it's CASUAL FRIDAY
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14:33:09  <carmbrecht>kenperkins: have a question for you
14:35:42  <carmbrecht>I saw what you were writing about nock yesterday. I haven't hit that aspect of node yet. Is there another lib I should use instead, or is nock fine (just finicky)?
14:38:04  <carmbrecht>I need to start testing a lot requests- so it looks great, but it sounded like there were some frustrating things about it. Just checkin' before I dive in
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14:40:20  <kenperkins>carmbrecht: what I'm seeing is that nock does not appear particularly robust when it comes to a high volume of mocked requests in short succession and/or in parallel
14:40:33  <kenperkins>obviously, if it's in process, it's not truly parallel at all, but still
14:40:49  <kenperkins>I don't know how else to explain when it doesn't behave deterministically
14:41:29  <carmbrecht>kenperkins: gotcha
14:41:53  <kenperkins>carmbrecht: that said, I'm convinced some of the problems are exacerbated by wierdness within pkgcloud
14:42:06  <kenperkins>for example, there are a number of cases where we do setInterval in tests
14:42:09  <carmbrecht>so... does it feel like async errs? In terms of not getting the expected output because of a sort of 'race condition'?
14:42:18  <carmbrecht>oh ok
14:42:29  <kenperkins>carmbrecht: yes, I've seen cases where two tests get the mocked responses from either other
14:42:33  <kenperkins>i.e. transposed
14:42:40  <carmbrecht>kenperkins: I've had some issues with pkgcloud in that sense
14:42:47  <kenperkins>can you explain?
14:42:57  <kenperkins>I found a nasty bug yesterday in it
14:43:29  <kenperkins>carmbrecht: this is the core model used for all models in pkgcloud: https://github.com/nodejitsu/pkgcloud/blob/master/lib/pkgcloud/core/base/model.js#L51
14:43:41  <kenperkins>tell me if you see anything wrong here (relating to setInterval)
14:44:48  <carmbrecht>well for me, I'm still in new territory, but when doing streams (for uploading) I would see unexpected results that seemed async natured- but I'm not familiar enough with node's process to judge much further
14:45:25  <kenperkins>what kind of stream? from local to remote? remote to remote?
14:45:53  <kenperkins>mmalecki did you finally pass out
14:45:56  <carmbrecht>both, worked more consistently on local to remote, than remote to remote
14:45:57  <carmbrecht>like jitsu
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14:46:14  <kenperkins>i'm not that familiar with jitsu, fwiw
14:46:42  <carmbrecht>just worked more consistent than when deployed (hosted with nodejitsu)
14:47:11  <kenperkins>what's your fundamental use case?
14:47:18  <kenperkins>i.e. what are you trying to do
14:47:39  <carmbrecht>but because it's new, and I'm using new tools, and I'm somewhat still noob at this :) - it's hard for me to isolate the actual causes
14:47:48  <kenperkins>understood
14:48:00  <carmbrecht>media uploading via streams to pkgcloud client
14:48:05  <carmbrecht>in my cases cloudfiles
14:48:29  <kenperkins>ok so just pushing streams up to cloud files
14:48:35  <kenperkins>that should work pretty straight forward
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14:49:54  <carmbrecht>'should' being the operative word
14:49:58  <kenperkins>gist?
14:50:09  <kenperkins>nathan7 around
14:50:30  <carmbrecht>ahh- atm, no gist, I'm working on some other projects
14:52:18  <carmbrecht>I got pretty lost with it, sometimes it would work, sometimes not. Sometimes I'd restart the process and it would be fine, other times not. So *nock*...
14:52:46  <carmbrecht>would at least let me start digging a little deeper into what's going on
14:52:58  <kenperkins>well
14:53:03  <kenperkins>how about setup a local vm for testing
14:53:08  <kenperkins>openstack + swift
14:53:13  <kenperkins>(which is what cloud files is basically)
14:53:20  <standoo>openstack?
14:53:31  <kenperkins>standoo: yep
14:53:52  <kenperkins>check that, I haven't submitted the PR for using storage in openstack :(
14:54:43  <standoo>POR?
14:54:44  <standoo>PR?
14:54:50  <kenperkins>pull request?
14:54:54  <carmbrecht>Hmm, I'll check it out
14:57:00  <nathan7>kenperkins: Hi
14:57:11  <carmbrecht>kenperkins: Sorry if this question hurts: So can you run a 'test cloud' through openstack? locally, through a vm?
14:57:24  <kenperkins>yea, I do it all the time
14:57:44  <nathan7>What's required of me? I'm somewhat sleepy
14:58:11  <carmbrecht>well, there's a detail I missed. haha
14:58:15  <kenperkins>sorry, was curious as to your thoughts on setWait (i think it's the cause of much pain)
14:58:19  <kenperkins>brb team meeting
14:58:23  <kenperkins>nathan7: go back to bed, sorry mate
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15:01:46  <nathan7>bed actually seems like a great idea
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15:09:01  <kenperkins>carmbrecht: http://blog.phymata.com/2012/11/08/openstack-devstack-on-the-rackspace-open-cloud/
15:09:26  <kenperkins>carmbrecht: you can run that on vagrant in lieu of the cloud
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15:10:57  <mmalecki>kenperkins: slept 3 hours
15:11:01  <mmalecki>I feel like shit now
15:11:07  <kenperkins>i bet
15:11:30  <carmbrecht>kenperkins: interesting stuff, thanks!
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15:12:09  <carmbrecht>almost makes it worse
15:12:12  <kenperkins>?
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15:12:59  <mmalecki>carmbrecht: sleeping 3 hours? yeah
15:13:16  <carmbrecht>yeah
15:13:17  <kenperkins>oh :)
15:13:21  <kenperkins>you switched contexts
15:13:31  <carmbrecht>I know sorry haha
15:14:13  <kenperkins>I was trying to figure out how running a local openstack made it worse
15:17:58  <carmbrecht>haha
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15:56:01  <wamoyo>Hey, can I use a custom SSL cert without upgrading to a business account
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15:57:18  <yawnt>hey :), only biz have custom
15:57:31  <yawnt>you can use ssl on *nodejitsu.com *jit.su and *jitsu.com on individual though
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16:07:03  <wamoyo>yawnt: Why is that? Is there some set up cost, I'd be happy to pay for that, I just can't afford $120 per month.
16:07:10  <wamoyo>And I need a few drones.
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16:08:16  <standoo>how much can you afford?
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16:10:14  <wamoyo>@standoo I can spend something like $50 one-off to set it up.
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16:11:48  <standoo>wamoyo: check opm
16:11:49  <yawnt>wamoyo: business starts from 48 $ / month
16:11:52  <yawnt>not 120
16:11:59  <standoo>wamoyo: check pm
16:12:10  <yawnt>or do you mean you need 5 drones?
16:12:25  <wamoyo>$48 is only two drones, I'm running four sights at the moment.
16:12:30  <wamoyo>Possibly more in the future.
16:13:04  <yawnt>ah i see
16:13:19  <wamoyo>standoo: what do you mean check pm?
16:13:35  <standoo>wamoyo: private message
16:13:55  <wamoyo>Got it!
16:14:07  <yawnt>wamoyo: unfortunately i don't think that's possible.. business plans are more suited to production usage than individuals
16:14:24  <yawnt>you also get a bunch of other features that individuals don't have :)
16:14:40  <wamoyo>I get how it's packaged, thanks!
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16:30:10  <LuckySpammer>hey. anyone avail that could answer some questions?
16:30:19  <Sly>LuckySpammer: Hey there. What's up?
16:30:43  <LuckySpammer>I'm working on a game. I looked into you guys early on, but there wasn't any websocket support at the time. I think.
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16:31:02  <LuckySpammer>ended up putting my game in the Azure cloud and using VMs, cause of the 90 days free.
16:31:15  <LuckySpammer>but that's over. and I see you guys have websockets now.
16:31:28  <yawnt>LuckySpammer: we've always had websockets :D
16:31:32  <Sly>^
16:31:41  <LuckySpammer>hmm, maybe it was something else then.
16:31:46  <LuckySpammer>I tried a lot of clouds.
16:31:53  <LuckySpammer>at any rate.
16:32:15  <LuckySpammer>on drones. I'd like to know what how this would work
16:32:37  <LuckySpammer>right now, when a new game spawns, I spawn in it's own process and it gets a sperate port.
16:32:48  <LuckySpammer>is that a seperate drone in nodejitsu?
16:32:58  <yawnt>no
16:33:07  <yawnt>every drone handles 1 application
16:33:24  <yawnt>and every drone can be accessed from the outside via 1 port
16:34:06  <LuckySpammer>okay - can the drones communicate?
16:34:14  <LuckySpammer>through... process.send for example?
16:34:25  <nathan7>every drone is a VM of its own
16:34:28  <yawnt>drones are indipendent machines
16:34:29  <LuckySpammer>and can a single drown spawn new drops. child.spawn() type stuff
16:34:40  <yawnt>you can use child.spawn and stuff
16:34:44  <nathan7>you can spawn a child process, but you'll have to handle it yourself
16:34:45  <yawnt>but they are not new drones
16:34:52  <yawnt>so they are not accessible from the outside
16:34:53  <yawnt>:)
16:35:01  <LuckySpammer>ahhh
16:35:09  <LuckySpammer>so my current model won't work.
16:35:41  <yawnt>honestly i don't think it's quite effective either spawning one server for each game
16:35:44  <yawnt>:D
16:35:59  <LuckySpammer>The games are kind of intenese. Real-time, physics, ect.
16:36:03  <LuckySpammer>but maybe not.
16:36:33  <nathan7>meh, I'd rather spawn more drones for that
16:37:02  <LuckySpammer>1 drones = 1 processor right?
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16:37:06  <nathan7>Yep
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16:39:33  <LuckySpammer>sperate drones might work.
16:39:42  <LuckySpammer>but i'd have to have a way from them to talk....
16:39:49  <LuckySpammer>for them*
16:40:13  <nathan7>redis, zeromq, some other form of pubsub
16:41:03  <LuckySpammer>yea
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16:50:30  <LuckySpammer>is there any eta on the virgina and EU data center locations?
16:50:42  <LuckySpammer>nm
16:50:46  <LuckySpammer>read the key wrong.
16:52:03  <yawnt>LuckySpammer: ?
16:52:09  <yawnt>they're already available
16:52:28  <LuckySpammer>yeah, I had read the color coding wrong when I was looking at the graph. my bad.
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16:56:32  <LuckySpammer>I take it drones share physical processors?
16:56:48  <yawnt>yep, virtual cpu
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16:57:25  <dojod>Does anyone know why I'd use a css grid system if im very comfortable just writing the design? Seems like another black box...
16:57:40  <LuckySpammer>Do you see a drone being able to run a game? game-loop, physics, ect. Or is just not deisnged for something like that?
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16:57:47  <nodejitsu-github>conservatory-api/master f2dff5e indexzero: [dist] Version bump. 1.0.1
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16:58:47  <dojod>I have a mud engine running on a drone; least an older version of my mud engine. It worked with 3-4 logged and using WS. But thats a lot simplier generally speaking.
16:59:07  <yawnt>LuckySpammer: drones for individual plan have 256MB of ram
16:59:23  <yawnt>business drones range from 256 to 1024
16:59:30  <yawnt>so it really depends a lot on your came :)
16:59:36  <LuckySpammer>that's plenty. I'd more worried with processing power.
16:59:36  <yawnt>node itself isn't made for cpu intensive tasks
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17:00:50  <LuckySpammer>Well, it's handling well in my current VPS. I can maintain 60 FPS on the server quite easily. 6-8 games at a time - at the most.
17:01:05  <LuckySpammer>2x1.6GHz.
17:01:41  <LuckySpammer>I guess the best thing to do it just put in the nodejitsu cloud and see what happens
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17:02:03  <yawnt>LuckySpammer: yep, i think so too :)
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17:02:37  <LuckySpammer>I'll have to do a little rewrite to give each game it's own drone I think.
17:02:53  <LuckySpammer>been looking for a reason to drive into some pubsub anyhow.
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17:04:28  <LuckySpammer>Thanks for the help!
17:04:35  <LuckySpammer>Shameless plug: All node.js: http://tagpro.koalabeast.com/
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17:41:05  <datlong>hi, can you help me, i get notice 'no matching version found when deploy my app'
17:41:18  <yawnt>datlong: hey
17:41:25  <datlong>i using Node with version of 0.22.2
17:41:34  <datlong>hi
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17:41:43  <yawnt>datlong: can you paste me your package.json?
17:41:44  <yawnt>thanks
17:42:02  <yawnt>you can paste it here https://gist.github.com
17:42:03  <datlong>{ "name": "wc", "scripts": { "start": "node server.js" }, "version": "0.22.2", "engines": { "node": "0.8.22" }, "subdomain": "wc.datlong" }
17:42:17  <datlong>ok
17:42:17  <yawnt>datlong: change engines.node to "0.8.x"
17:42:18  <yawnt>:)
17:42:23  <yawnt>datlong: then re-deploy
17:42:40  <datlong>ok, i will retry it :)
17:44:08  <datlong>yawnt: hey
17:44:15  <kenperkins>man im beat
17:44:20  <datlong>my app using binaryjs
17:44:27  <datlong>how can i install it
17:45:40  <jcrugzz>datlong: you want to run `npm install binaryjs --save` the --save is crucial so that it automatically adds it to your dependencies in your package.json
17:47:29  <datlong>jcrugzz, where i can add it to?
17:48:07  <jcrugzz>run npm install binaryjs --save and then look at your package.json datlong :).
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17:49:23  <datlong>jcugzz, i'm new bie with nodejs, like for your help
17:49:26  <datlong>:)
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17:51:05  <jcrugzz>datlong: run that command and then I will explain to help you understand what it did :)
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17:52:58  <datlong>@jcugzz, i run your command i my app deploy success, now i try it to. thanks you alot :)
17:54:16  <jcrugzz>datlong: ok cool :). And when you deploy we look at your package.json `dependencies` to install things. so just make sure all the modules your app needs to run are there!
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17:56:11  <kenperkins>mmalecki did you code anything last night
17:56:40  <datlong>@ycrugzz, you exactly, i see it :)
17:57:38  <kenperkins>hey cronopio
17:57:55  <cronopio>kenperkins: hi!
17:59:03  <datlong>@ycrugzz, i want to build a app to share webcam, are you ok websocket is a best choice?
18:00:48  <cronopio>kenperkins: I'll try to fix the tests at master, maybe I'll bother you with some questions today and tomorrow :P
18:00:54  <jcrugzz>datlong: yes websocket would be the best transport for it for sure. But i would actually check out https://npmjs.org/package/webrtc.io
18:01:13  <jcrugzz>webrtc may be what you are looking for, the only trouble is browser support
18:03:06  <datlong>ok, i will try it :)
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18:22:37  <jedireza>Sly: i'm ready when you are
18:22:50  <debianw>hey, does anyone know about an issue with passports ? . I'm getting a 502 bad gateway response
18:22:52  <Sly>Hey, jedireza. I'll PM you.
18:23:13  <debianw>*passportjs
18:23:41  <jedireza>debianw: is it for github auth?
18:24:29  <debianw>no, its for defaultdynamics.com
18:24:38  <debianw>it works locally
18:25:14  <jcrugzz>debianw: do your logs tell you anything?
18:26:38  <debianw>nop
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18:27:29  <jcrugzz>debianw: can you show me exactly what you see on an attempted login?
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18:32:35  <debianw>I see a nodejitsu logo with a message "502 socket hang up"
18:33:18  <debianw>@jcrugzz I see a nodejitsu logo with a message "502 socket hang up"
18:33:47  <jcrugzz>debianw: hmm ok, can you give me your username/appnmae?
18:35:28  <_mrb_>Hi. I have an application that has 2 parts, /app and /server, where /app is a Yeoman init'd project that has a node_modules directory for use with Grunt. Despite having "node_modules" in both /.npmignore and /app/.npmignore...
18:35:44  <_mrb_>the /app/node_modules is still being packaged when I do `jitsu package create` and in the deployment to NodeJitsu. /server/node_modules is being ignored, however. Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong? Obviously don't want to deploy a massive package to the server.
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18:37:36  <dacopenhagen>can i setup ssl certs when my dns isn't set up yet?
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18:40:20  <dacopenhagen>?
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18:41:20  <jcrugzz>dacopenhagen: if you are on a business plan, the ssl cert tab will show up by the logs for your app if you have added a domain or two to the domains: [] in your package.json
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18:42:58  <jcrugzz>_mrb_: the node_modules are not deployed at all. The things that are installed are based on the dependencies in your package.json
18:43:38  <debianw>@jcrugzz Sorry I lost connection, this is the info you requested u:cayasso appName: DefaulDynamics
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18:45:00  <_mrb_>@jcrugzz: The result of `jitsu package create` is 33.7MB and much larger when unzipped, which leads me to believe they are. The dependencies in /package.json are not being included, but there is a /app/package.json for the Grunt files.
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18:46:48  <_mrb_>@jcrugzz: The modules in /app/package.json are being included, but they're listed under devDependencies.
18:47:10  <jcrugzz>_mrb_: I would suggest you only have one package.json for your project to keep track of things. We only deal with the root package.json
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18:48:35  <_mrb_>@jcrugzz: Ideally, that's what I'd have, but the package.json comes from the Yeoman init and I assume should be kept around for the Grunt tool?
18:50:50  <jcrugzz>_mrb_: well thats no fun. I guess its assuming that all that yeoman stuff is just your app. If you migrate the devDependencies and things from that package.json to your other, it should work.
18:51:19  <jcrugzz>you just may have to change how the grunt scripts are run so they run on the thins in the yeoman app directory
18:51:22  <debianw>@jcrugzz any thoughts on the 502 bad gateway issue ?
18:51:28  <_mrb_>@jcrugzz: Good idea. I'll give that a whirl. Thanks.
18:52:38  <jcrugzz>debianw: looking into it, juggling a couple things but i got you ;)
18:53:09  <debianw>@jcrugzz thank you
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18:57:28  <steida>hi, I just tried to upgrade to engines node v0.10.x and error: No matching versions found
18:57:46  <steida>Is Node 0.10.x supported?
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18:58:33  <jcrugzz>steida: not yet, it should be soon :). just use 0.8.x for now
18:58:46  <jcrugzz>debianw: im seeing Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:31:38 GMT connect:session store is disconnected
18:58:49  <jcrugzz>in your lgos
18:58:50  <jcrugzz>logs
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18:59:06  <datarem>is anyone else having deploy issues with a Rackspace 404 error?
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18:59:44  <steida>I have rackspace Error too
18:59:49  <jcrugzz>daterem: check your snapshots to ensure its there?
19:00:29  <datarem>they all exist, I get this on a jitsu deploy
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19:01:22  <jcrugzz>datarem: yes but did the newest snapshot that you deployed, did it make it into the snapshots list? if so you should be able to activate it
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19:02:01  <steida>deployment does not work :(
19:02:21  <jcrugzz>steida: can you check the same?
19:02:32  <jcrugzz>run `jitsu snapshots list`
19:02:36  <steida>http://pastie.org/7725847
19:02:41  <dacopenhagen>jcrugzz, interesting I have added a domain, it's just not showing up yet it appears.
19:02:49  <dacopenhagen>ahh, it is now!
19:02:50  <datarem>i get the 500 error
19:03:08  <datarem>when trying to activate from the dashboard
19:03:21  <debianw>@jcrugzz . Yes, our app is a mobile app and doesn't need session so We disconnect it from passport (passport.authenticate('dd', { session: false })(req, res, next);)
19:03:28  <dacopenhagen>can i add other users to my app so they can push as well?
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19:05:16  <jcrugzz>dacopenhagen: yes they just need to set a unique apiTokenName (`jitsu config set apiTokenName something unique`)
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19:05:22  <jcrugzz>and then login in with jitsu login
19:05:41  <jcrugzz>that will enable them to deploy as well
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19:07:20  <jcrugzz>datarem steida: ensure you guys all have the latest jitsu (run an npm install jitsu -g) and then run a `jitsu deploy --debug` and gist me the full output
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19:07:40  <jcrugzz>datarem: first though can you try and activate the snapshot from the command line?
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19:08:09  <ryder>having an issue with auth.. i jitsu login and it says OK then i deploy and it says auth failed
19:08:17  <datarem>just started working for me, deployed once more with a socket error, then on the next time it worked
19:08:17  <ryder>do i have to add keys or something?
19:08:27  <debianw>@jcrugzz, sorry again, I got disconnected.
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19:08:58  <ryder>WE ARE TRING TO DEPLOY AN APP ABOUT YOUR MOM!!! ITS NEEDED ASAP!!!
19:09:24  <jcrugzz>ryder: can you run an `npm install jitsu -g && jitsu login`
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19:10:18  <steida>jcrugz: it works now, thank you
19:10:32  <datarem>@jcrugzz: oh wait it failed 10 seconds later with an unknown error
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19:11:35  <ryder>k i did that
19:11:39  <ryder>logged in, no errors
19:11:50  <jcrugzz>ryder: see what the deploy does now
19:11:55  <ryder>then deploy it says Nodejitsu Error (401): Not Authorized
19:12:19  <jcrugzz>ryder: run it wih --debug and gist me the output please?
19:12:29  <julianduque>ryder: jitsu version?
19:12:43  <ryder>0.12.10-2
19:12:50  <julianduque>hmm
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19:13:34  <datarem>@jcrugzz https://gist.github.com/datarem/6ce4a68d461adaa83cc2
19:13:46  <ryder>https://gist.github.com/ryderr/a01d7232f3c77fe8be78
19:13:50  <jcrugzz>debianw: ok let me dig in a bit further. it shows your app responds with a 302 on the oauth request
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19:14:20  <jcrugzz>datarem: can you show me an output of a jitsu snapshots list?
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19:15:19  <jules_>lol whats up
19:15:33  <jules_>attempting to deploy, getting a rackspace error
19:15:34  <jules_>https://gist.github.com/julescarbon/23e18345ac67280539b5
19:15:46  <modim1425>Hello everyone. I'm getting errors on deploy. Anyone care to take a look? rackspace error
19:16:06  <modim1425>https://gist.github.com/sethdaniel/05717b13754d92a0c9f2
19:16:11  <ryder>looks like the racks on racks on racks error to me
19:16:22  <jules_>POST to server without the black magic, human sacrifices, or screaming incantations
19:16:38  <jules_>how is this possible??????
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19:16:55  <datarem>@jcrugzz figured out the problem the first is just that general rackspace error, there is a second one that is my fault.
19:17:33  <datarem>@jcrugzz i get though on every 3rd or 4th deploy
19:17:44  <modim1425>sorry wrong gist. here's the right one https://gist.github.com/sethdaniel/05717b13754d92a0c9f2
19:17:47  <datarem>through**
19:17:47  <dacopenhagen>your add user documentation is terrible...
19:18:13  <jcrugzz>datarem: ok cool. yea rackspace can be annoying >.<. its them telling us the snapshot exists and then it doesnt >.>
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19:19:46  <jules_> * * _
19:19:47  <jules_> /\ * ___. / `)
19:19:47  <jules_> * //\\ /\ ///\\ / /
19:19:47  <jules_> ///\\\ //\\/\ ////\\\ / / /\
19:19:51  <jules_> ////\\\\///\\/\\.-~~-.///\\\\ / / //\\
19:19:51  <jules_> /////\\\\///\\/ `\\\\\\/ / ///\\
19:19:51  <jules_> //////\\\\// / `\\\\/ / ////\\
19:19:53  <jules_> ///////\\\\\// `~` /\ /////\\
19:19:53  <jcrugzz>dacopenhagen: agreed.
19:19:56  * nathan7booted jules_ (jules_)
19:20:10  <nathan7>What the fuck?
19:20:48  <ryder>ok i just did it again and now its working!
19:20:49  <modim1425>cannot deploy. getting rackspace error 404 item not found
19:20:49  <ryder>http://www.whatarepeoplesayingaboutyourmom.com/
19:20:49  <jcrugzz>anyone experiencing the rackspace error please refer http://errors.jit.su/Rackspace%20Error%20(404):%20Item%20not%20found
19:20:52  <ryder>thanks guys
19:21:14  <dacopenhagen>alright, i created a token, what the heck can i do with that? I have 2 users, how to i add that token to another acct and only give him access to push to one of my apps?
19:22:08  <jcrugzz>dacopenhagen: well thats whats not possible currently. they still have to know the general account information to login.
19:22:15  <jcrugzz>we dont have fine tuned permissions for that
19:24:17  <dacopenhagen>ahh, so in other words - if I find a weird error, I have to have push control...that's quite frustrating, but at least ya'll have websockets
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19:24:57  <jules_>hello
19:25:01  <jules_>finally deployed
19:25:13  <jules_>some of yall bots must hate ascii doe
19:25:23  <jcrugzz>jules_: ok cool :). Next time please do not spam our chat
19:25:24  <debianw>@jcrugzz thank you. let me know if you find something, We really need this
19:25:48  <jules_>i have some dank ascii of a pleisiosaur i want yall to check out
19:26:14  <jules_>13 lines
19:26:26  <jcrugzz>debianw: dig into your code as well, to see if its hitting a bad route or something. Let me try something quick and let me know if it still happens
19:26:50  <jules_>also a pretty cool pterodactyl, lemme know
19:26:56  <jules_>xdcc list me for more options
19:27:00  <jules_>the pterodactyl is 17 lines
19:27:16  <nathan7>This is our support channel, please don't throw in noise like that.
19:27:31  <jules_>where is your art channel
19:27:37  <nathan7>#nodejitsu-art
19:27:43  <jules_>dope
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19:28:06  <jcrugzz>dacopenhagen: im not sure how you are doing things but maybe separate certain apps to different accounts if you only want them to have access to deploy a certain app?
19:28:12  <debianw>@jcrugzz ok, let me know when I can try again
19:28:13  <modim1425>thank you, jcrugzz
19:28:25  <jcrugzz>modim1425: np :)
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19:29:09  <dacopenhagen>yes, that's just a much more difficult way of managing who has access to what.
19:29:24  <dacopenhagen>i really just need for each app a list of people that can push/pull
19:29:29  <dacopenhagen>well, depoy : P
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19:30:03  <nathan7>Well, you can do Continuous Deployment
19:30:07  <nathan7>git push -> deploy
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19:30:21  <jcrugzz>this is a good point ^
19:30:21  <nathan7>You can set it up to only deploy if CI gives the green light
19:30:31  <jcrugzz>dacopenhagen: may be do it that way
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19:35:50  <jcrugzz>debianw: can you try it again?
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19:57:41  <debianw>@jcrugzz same response "502 socket hang up"
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20:01:51  <jcrugzz>debianw: it seems like something is crashing your app, add more logs to it
20:02:08  <jcrugzz>i dont see anything thats saying whats happening
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20:02:49  <jcrugzz>i just see
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20:03:57  <jcrugzz>debianw: it just shows a stream output and then the app restarts
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20:38:09  <debianw>does anyone know if is possible to debug in nodejitsu ? like using node-inspector or something ?
20:38:39  <nathan7>Not yet, no
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