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00:37:10  <coinification>hi everyone.
00:37:20  <coinification>just having a quick question here:
00:37:26  <coinification>is it common that jitsu deploy stops at
00:37:26  <coinification>"checking app availability appname"
00:37:26  <coinification>?
00:37:26  <coinification>does anyone have an idea why that happens?
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01:10:00  <focusaurus>woo hoo! just got my first nodejitsu app ever deployed and running: http://flickrdatefixer.jit.su/
01:11:09  <focusaurus>mostly had to grok npm pack to get it running properly on nodejitsu. thought I was going to need to ask questions here, but worked through all confusions including https://github.com/isaacs/npm/issues/3059
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01:23:30  <mmalecki>http://www.reddit.com/r/foodporn is a torture when you're high
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01:58:58  <coinification>anyone here that ever set up socket.io with nodejitsu?
01:58:58  <coinification>my app only serves the socket io startpage instead of my app,
01:58:58  <coinification>which port am i supposed to use for socket.io?
02:03:25  <mmalecki>coinification: listen on your http server
02:03:35  <mmalecki>don't listen on second port
02:04:05  <coinification>oh i see, just wanted to try that, then found some other problems i will run into next, now in a fixing frenzy :D
02:04:48  <coinification>thanks though :)
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02:19:17  <coinification>do you also know how i can serve the socket.io.js clientside ?
02:19:36  <coinification>should it just serve on port 80 too?
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03:39:28  <ylaassel>Hi guys. Is there a way to view the files of your app?
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05:59:04  <Leo__>hey can anyone help me?
06:03:22  <coinification>hi there :)
06:03:33  <coinification>i fear i cant but give me your question anyways :p
06:03:39  <Leo__>hey im trying to deploy the example multiweb rtc
06:03:43  <Leo__>:(
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06:05:07  <coinification>whats the error you get?
06:06:51  <Leo__>it just says invalid package.json file
06:07:14  <Leo__>i looked it up and it says webrtc.io.js is a symlink
06:07:28  <Leo__>and nodejitsu and npm dont package and deploy those
06:08:22  <coinification>try
06:08:23  <coinification>jitsu deploy --noanalyze
06:08:43  <Leo__>ok
06:10:26  <coinification>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14698684/nodejitsu-deploy-of-webrtc-demo-failing-to-server-client-side-javascript
06:10:30  <coinification>this might help
06:14:17  <Leo__>hmm
06:14:30  <Leo__>i still dont get why it says my package.json is invalid
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06:18:54  <andr3w321>hello
06:19:12  <andr3w321>question regarding subdomains
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06:19:42  <andr3w321>will google penalize for having duplicate content at foo.nodejitsu.com and at foo.com
06:20:00  <andr3w321>i tried to delete my subdomain, but that is not allowed
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06:38:16  <mmalecki>andr3w321: nope
06:38:23  <mmalecki>they will not
06:38:53  <andr3w321>do i need to do anything to make sure foo.nodejitsu.com is not indexed by them?
06:39:08  <mmalecki>don't submit it to them
06:40:05  <andr3w321>ok, seemed like the only way was to write in a hard redirect into express, but i guess i will just leave it alone then
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08:06:10  <stabby>I'm trying to deploy my app and I'm getting "No free servers available." Couldn't find any info on it, how can I fix it.
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08:27:41  <soroush>Having issues with my webhooks from Travis-CI not triggering a deployment at nodejitsu. Has anyone else had similar issues? Not sure whether this problem lies on travis end or nodejitsu's.
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08:34:44  <stabby>I'm unable to deploy as well, it tells me "No free servers available"
08:35:42  <yawnt>stabby: hey, looking
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08:41:32  <stabby>yawnt: thanks, do you mean which datacenter I'm deploying to? I'm on a non-business plan, so I think that puts me on us-east-1..
08:43:42  <yawnt>stabby: yep correct
08:43:56  <yawnt>lemme check, because i see a lot of free drones here
08:45:15  <yawnt>stabby: can you try now?
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08:46:16  <stabby>yawnt: getting the same message
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08:51:20  <yawnt>stabby: spawning new servers, one sec
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09:15:31  <stabby>yawnt: seems to work now thanks
09:15:59  <yawnt>stabby: yeah i'm spawning new machines :)
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11:44:15  <NodeJS>Hi. I need to use phantomjs in my project, so does nodejitsu support it?
11:44:41  <nathan7>No, not yet.
11:45:06  <NodeJS>Is it will support in a future?
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11:48:33  <booyaa>you know i need to make a phantomjs as a service
11:48:39  <booyaa>i would made shitloads of $$$
11:48:42  <booyaa>srsly
11:49:22  <nathan7>It exists, booyaa
11:49:49  <nathan7>http://www.brombone.com/
11:54:47  <booyaa>wow yeah bit too rich, but then again spin up cost of an instance isn't as cheap as say running znc service (irc relay)
11:55:50  <booyaa>mind you these guys are definitely going for the testing side rather than for screen grabbing or single page app seo sweetening
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12:18:48  <dejaset>hi
12:18:57  <dejaset>any officials?
12:19:41  <nathan7>Yep
12:19:48  <nathan7>What can I do for you?
12:20:38  <dejaset>I'm getting this error
12:20:39  <dejaset>error: No free servers available. Please visit #nodejitsu on irc.freenode.net or email [email protected] for further information.
12:20:48  <dejaset>I have $7 plan
12:21:17  <dejaset>I tried both the CLI and the Web UI
12:21:24  <dejaset>can't scale
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12:22:52  <nathan7>OI
12:24:48  <nathan7>dejaset: Which DC?
12:25:06  <dejaset>DC?
12:25:11  <nathan7>datacenter
12:25:20  <dejaset>I'm on $7 USD plan
12:25:25  <nathan7>If you don't know, then it's joyent-us-east-1
12:25:27  <dejaset>how should I know the DC
12:25:29  <nathan7>Thank you, we're sorting this
12:25:32  <dejaset>k
12:25:37  <dejaset>thanks
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12:27:16  <nathan7>..sorry, I'm not very awake, individual plans are all us-east-1
12:28:14  <dejaset>:)
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12:41:39  <Sly>Hey, dejaset. Were you able to get it deployed?
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12:44:01  <dejaset>let me try now
12:44:14  <dejaset>no
12:44:18  <dejaset>still the same error
12:44:35  <Sly>Alright. Give me a bit.
12:44:43  <dejaset>sure
12:45:58  <Sly>Alright. Try it again. Spinning up more servers as we speak.
12:46:46  <dejaset>k
12:47:01  <dejaset>no
12:47:19  <dejaset>:(
12:47:27  <dejaset>now I've leave
12:47:33  <dejaset>I'll try later
12:47:52  <dejaset>hope you can have a look
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12:51:11  <Sly>Will try getting it up for you guys.
12:52:52  <dejaset>thanks
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13:15:34  <rei__g>hi, i'm trying to deploy an app, and getting a "no servers available" error. I have an unlimited drones plan
13:15:50  <igorpavlov>Hey guys, cannot deploy an app. It says Failure: No free servers available. Please visit #nodejitsu on irc.freenode.net or email [email protected] for further information.
13:16:10  <Sly>rei__g: igorpavlov: We're working on it.
13:16:10  <igorpavlov>App "cp", 1 drone
13:16:17  <rei__g>deploy a new app version. i see the archived snapshots but cant start the new 1
13:16:22  <rei__g>ok
13:16:29  <igorpavlov>Ok, thank you. Waiting for updates
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13:21:26  <lloydwatkin>Hi all, getting an error on deploy "No free servers"
13:22:23  <Sly>lloydwatkin: We're working on it.
13:22:44  <lloydwatkin>Ok cool, thanks
13:30:50  <Sly>It takes a little while for servers to spawn guys, so grab breakfast or whatever in the meantime. :)
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13:47:36  <youngprogrammer>Does No free servers available mean all the servers are full?
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14:05:27  <Sly>youngprogrammer: lloydwatkin: igorpavlov: Servers spinning up. Should be able to deploy in the next little while.
14:05:59  <igorpavlov>Thanks. Will try in 10 mins!
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14:28:36  <igorpavlov>it is deploying now, but the speed of the website is now very low
14:29:13  <igorpavlov>under "speed of website" I mean response time of my app
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14:49:25  <kenperkins>man I can't wait to finish re-writing my baseball site in node.js
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15:12:38  <ome>Is there any sort of limit with Native/C++ modules on nodejitsu, for example can I use fiber? https://github.com/laverdet/node-fibers
15:13:11  <Sly>ome: I know fibers wasn't working at one point, but you're always welcome to try it and see if it works now. They could have updated it since the last test of it.
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16:01:07  <dejaset>the problem we faced at scaling is now fixed
16:01:09  <dejaset>thanks
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16:03:56  <poeticninja>I am trying to make a decision to manage my own server or go with Nodejitsu. First I was curious what hardware nodejitsu is running on?
16:04:24  <poeticninja>Are they solid state drives?
16:05:36  <Sly>poeticninja: Not that I'm aware of.
16:05:48  <poeticninja>cool, thanks. i didnt think so.
16:05:51  <poeticninja>I just wanted to check.
16:05:58  <poeticninja>Second how many apps can I have running, is it one drone per app? or can i go with one drone and have mutliple apps?
16:06:50  <poeticninja>I know if I have my own server I can have multiple node apps running on my server for different domains.
16:07:37  <Sly>You can have multiple apps under your account, and you can scale your apps as you see fit. If you have a 3 drone limit, you can run 3 applications with 1 drone or one application with 3 drones.
16:07:42  <Sly>Or you could even split it up 2 and 1.
16:09:37  <poeticninja>THat sounds awesome but too good to be true. Thank you!!! :)
16:10:18  <poeticninja>Is there a database offline that you suggest?
16:10:19  <Sly>No problem. :)
16:10:30  <Sly>You mean, for your local development?
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16:10:31  <poeticninja>mongohq
16:10:32  <poeticninja>or something
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16:10:46  <poeticninja>I dont know how much space they have for their databases
16:10:52  <Sly>I don't use mongo. I actually prefer to use couch.
16:11:04  <Sly>Which provider were you looking at?
16:11:29  <poeticninja>Ok.Not sure. I just know now locally on my machine I use mongodb
16:11:50  <poeticninja>And if I run my own server I was going to install mongodb on that server.
16:12:23  <poeticninja>but with nodejitsu it seems that you dont setup the database locally?
16:12:30  <Sly>Well, if you want to use mongo... you can provision MongoLab or MongoHQ through us.
16:12:33  <poeticninja>it is just for apps really?
16:12:40  <poeticninja>ok
16:12:47  <Sly>You can always provision your own database elsewhere, but we won't be able to contact the database provider on your behalf.
16:13:01  <poeticninja>Sure. I understand.
16:13:18  <Sly>Also, no. We don't serve databases on our servers.
16:13:39  <poeticninja>So nodejitsu is app only. :) Cool. How about files? aws s3 buckets?
16:14:11  <Sly>If you have a lot of images, yes. It's best to offload them. Especially if you're using a 256 MB RAM drone. They have problems with a lot of images, ENOMEM and such.
16:14:30  <Sly>Static files tend to be fine in packages.
16:14:30  <poeticninja>Ok cool.
16:15:10  <poeticninja>Well I guess I will just need to try it out from here. Thanks for your help!
16:15:19  <Sly>No problem. Let us know if you need anything else. :)
16:15:56  <dejaset>@Sly: our scale issue get fixed
16:16:15  <Sly>dejaset: it did get fixed, or it needs to be fixed?
16:16:37  <dejaset>no no
16:16:42  <dejaset>Now I can scale
16:16:47  <dejaset>thanks
16:16:53  <Sly>Oh, yeah. We spun up some more servers. :)
16:16:55  <Sly>No problem.
16:18:47  <dejaset>cool
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16:30:22  <Leo__>hey can anyone help me?
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16:36:43  <Leo__>anyone know the overhead of using sockets and peerconnections?
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17:10:48  <poeticninja>Hello, I am trying o understand a drone with node and scaling on nodejitsu. My understanding is that node is single threaded. How can you have multiple drones to scale a node app? Does it help? Or is the idea of multiple drones only good for mutliple apps?
17:11:17  <Sly>poeticninja: Each drone is one server and one application.
17:11:30  <Sly>Each time you add a drone, your app is being deployed to another server.
17:11:36  <Sly>Our load balancers then handle where the traffic should go.
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17:12:00  <poeticninja>What ever. Don't give me that magic our servers are just better than all the rest...
17:12:02  <poeticninja>LOL j/k
17:12:09  <poeticninja>that is sweet! i am loving this more and more.
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17:16:10  <Sly>:)
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17:55:28  <hlobil>what is the expected date for nodejitsu to support node engine v0.10.x ?
17:55:52  <Sly>hlobil: I'm not aware of any ETA on 0.10.x being supported. Sorry.
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17:59:14  <hlobil>@Sly Is it a lot of effort to make 0.10.x drones?
17:59:52  <Sly>hlobil: it's not a lot of effort, but we have to test it on our platform for stability before we can add it to the drones to be used. It doesn't help if we add it and it makes everyone's performance go down.
18:00:05  <Sly>hlobil: the reason we didn't add it when it came out is because there was an 800% increase in the crypto module's processing.
18:00:15  <Sly>Things like that are why it was held back.
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18:04:55  <aykutyaman>hello. My app stopped due to billing issue. I could not change my credit card info in the panel. It says : "Processor declined(2046). Jarrett Cruger sad me that he was looking into that. What can I due now? :(
18:06:06  <doktorj>why would node release a major / stable version of node with an 800% increase like that, which will hold everyone on nodejjitsu and other places back? that is sad.
18:06:16  <Sly>aykutyaman: Unfortunately, there's nothing that we can do directly. This is a payment processor issue. :(
18:06:55  <doktorj>aykutya: that is sad too, i feel your pain.
18:07:24  <Sly>aykutyaman: I'm not sure what all Jarrett has done to handle this, so I'll need to discuss what he has already done before continuing.
18:08:42  <aykutyaman>Sly: thank you
18:08:49  <Sly>No problem. :)
18:09:26  <Sly>doktorj: It just happened. It wasn't expected, and I don't really know what Joyent's procedures are before a release... as far as testing everything.
18:09:43  <Sly>It could have just been overlooked on accident.
18:09:52  <nathan7>It was due to a change in the crypto API
18:10:07  <nathan7>https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/5015
18:10:08  <doktorj>i thought a place nodejitsu would be on the cusp of node versioning & easy/multiple payment methods etc... or atleast offer the option of using a recent/modern ver of node so user's aren't forced to use an old tech stack and old npm modules
18:10:53  <doktorj>i'm sure there's alot of complex stuff behind the scenes tho...but still i just figured a joyent company would be on the cusp of the node tech stack
18:11:26  <nathan7>Things are moving, but yeah, I'd love 0.10 on our cloud
18:11:38  <nathan7>However, 0.8 isn't dead yet, far from it
18:12:04  <nathan7>(our own infrastructure is going to be on 0.8 for plenty more time unless we have major reasons to switch)
18:12:33  <nathan7>The npm readable-stream module already provides Streams2 (it is in fact where streams2 comes from - it was prototyped as an npm module)
18:12:44  <nathan7>Besides that, not *that* much changed
18:13:23  <doktorj>right..
18:14:14  <nathan7>http://blog.strongloop.com/whats-new-in-node-v0-10
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18:20:25  <doktorj>anyone know if it's possible to run jsonloops with a basic nodejitsu account? https://github.com/Marak/JSONloops/blob/master/ReadMe.md it apparently has to have node compiled as 32 bit
18:21:15  <flippyhead>I'm having a problem where my site stops responding to requests eventually and the only way I know to fix it is to deploy or restart my app
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18:23:57  <nathan7>doktorj: All our stuff is 64
18:25:29  <nathan7>doktorj: also, our machines are kind of far away from you and lack speakers or sound cards
18:25:35  <nathan7>doktorj: It plays the sound on the server
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18:27:23  <doktorj>le sigh, i guess 64bit only is good good, but the jsonloops just looks so fun to play with / test out, and has nodejitsu name all over it - but you can't run in on nodejitsu
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18:27:42  <doktorj>oh well
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18:30:54  <doktorj>maybe someone should post on the nodejitsu youtube channel that even tho dood on there is hyping up how awesome jsonloops is ( on the nodejitsu channel ), you can't actually run it on nodejitsu - so people don't get stoked on being able to test it
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18:33:25  <nathan7>doktorj: You can run it on your local machine
18:33:47  <nathan7>doktorj: Marak was one of the founders of Nodejitsu, no wonder it has our name all over it
18:34:02  <nathan7>doktorj: Fact is, the sound comes out of the machine the server is ran on
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18:35:43  <doktorj>yea, but then i can't really play with it outside my local, with other people around globe - oh well i should just forget that that app exists : )
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18:38:48  <nathan7>doktorj: well, yeah, but they wouldn't be able to hear it either
18:38:59  <nathan7>It'd be cool to make this play the audio on the client
18:39:02  <nathan7>the APIs are there now
18:39:32  <doktorj>yea
18:43:20  <doktorj>i've heard of other software doing the same (global, live, synched music collab) years ago, so just assumed there would be a working node version - but i tend to assume too much... ok deleting that app from my memory now : )
18:44:08  * nathan7was playing with building audio composition with the Web Audio API
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18:46:43  <doktorj>nathan: same api that this is using? http://planbstudio.tumblr.com/post/14212334872/built-with-the-web-audio-api-and-node-js-ive-no-idea
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18:48:00  <Leo__>hey i have a question
18:49:25  <Sly>Leo__: what's up?
18:49:47  <Leo__>would it be bad to host a website with nodejitsu? would it be better to have a website hosted somewhere else and use nodejitsu servers to just run apps?
18:50:52  <Sly>Leo__: lots of sites are hosted with us. In fact, we host blog.jit.su on our platform.
18:51:08  <Sly>Leo__: we also use our platform for webops.
18:51:46  <Leo__>whats the overhead of sockets? how many clients would 1 drone support?
18:52:33  <nathan7>doktorj: Yeah
18:52:48  <Sly>It really depends on what kind of data you're transferring. If you're streaming a lot of data, it would obviously be less clients than just sending pings or something.
18:53:21  <doktorj>nathan: niceness, that looks pretty cool although simple
18:53:24  <Leo__>ok i guess thats something ill have to do with trial and error
18:55:56  <nathan7>Mhm
18:56:00  <nathan7>Load test, see what happens
18:56:37  <Leo__>one more thing
18:57:06  <Leo__>actually nvm
19:01:17  <doktorj>how much disc space do you get with the most basic nodejitsu micro account? doesn't seem to say here: https://www.nodejitsu.com/paas/pricing/
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19:09:18  <Sly>doktorj: It's 2GB of disk space per drone.
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19:17:34  <nathan7>doktorj: Those 2GB are temporary storage - when you redeploy you'll hit another drone, etc
19:17:41  <nathan7>doktorj: it's more for caching and stuff
19:17:54  <nathan7>doktorj: if you have data you want to keep, use a storage service or a DB
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19:36:53  <nodeguy>Hi. Anyone here will help to kill walking dead drone ?
19:37:39  <Sly>nodeguy: sure.
19:37:45  <Sly>What's the username and application name?
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19:38:13  <nodeguy>Sly: mstepanov/caltrainme-service
19:38:51  <nodeguy>Sly: I found an unknown instance that runs old code and sends iOS push notifications to users
19:40:19  <Sly>nodeguy: Alright. Give me a bit. Going to have to look through the drones you've deployed to in the past.
19:40:50  <nodeguy>Sly: ok. feel free to restart whatever currently running
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19:42:59  <Sly>Shouldn't need to.
19:43:58  <Sly>nodeguy: Should be stopped now.
19:44:36  <nodeguy>Sly: thanks.any way to know/prevent this in the future ?
19:44:45  <Sly>nodeguy: are you handling uncaughtExceptions in your code?
19:44:53  <Sly>That's normally the cause of zombie processes being left behind.
19:45:19  <nodeguy>Sly: I don't
19:45:30  <Sly>Not sure what caused it, then.
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19:45:44  <Sly>Could just be a bad server. If it happens again, I'll delete it.
19:46:34  <nodeguy>Sly: I was using command line jitsu to deploy, and I remember that once it failed to start so I deployed again
19:47:12  <Sly>nodeguy: if it ever fails to start, let us know what happened. It could be a bug that we're not aware of.
19:47:28  <Sly>You guys are a huge help with finding little bugs that we've missed.
19:47:40  <nodeguy>Sly: https://gist.github.com/mstepanov/e6e48db65dd2e631eda4
19:48:18  <Sly>I've never seen this error before, but how long ago did you try that?
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19:49:00  <nodeguy>Sly: 04/28 00:36:56 PDT
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19:49:37  <Sly>nodeguy: Not sure about that. I starred that gist, and I'll try to find out what could possibly cause this.
19:49:58  <nodeguy>Sly: ok. thanks for you help
19:50:09  <Sly>No problem. :)
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20:01:29  <gnm3000>hi, exist addons of RabbitMQ in nodejistu.com??
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20:04:39  <Dorphern>I'm having trouble uploading files through multipart forms.. is it at all possible at jitsu?
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20:10:36  <nathan7>Dorphern: Sure
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20:10:57  <Dorphern>Yeah.. but I'm not getting any callback
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20:11:12  <nathan7>gnm3000: We don't currently provide RabbitMQ, nor do we currently partner with any RabbitMQ providers.
20:11:47  <nathan7>I have an app running that uses formidable, though it hasn't done a lot for the last few monthhs
20:11:51  <nathan7>*months
20:11:54  <Dorphern>I'm calling parse on a formidable form object, but the callback I've provided is never called
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20:12:27  <nathan7>and you're passing it the req and all?
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20:12:37  <Dorphern>Yup
20:13:05  <Dorphern>I'm using express, with bodyParser, could that have any effect?
20:13:08  <nathan7>AH
20:13:10  <nathan7>Yes!
20:13:18  <nathan7>bodyparser already uses formidable
20:13:32  <nathan7>http://www.senchalabs.org/connect/middleware-bodyParser.html
20:13:50  <Dorphern>So I should be able to just use req.files ?
20:13:51  <nathan7>req.files
20:13:53  <nathan7>Yeah
20:14:37  <Dorphern>The problem is I've already tried that, and it workes perfectly on my local, but not when i deploy it, then req.files is empty.. I'll try again, maybe I've missed something
20:15:31  <Dorphern>Is there some specific temp upload dir I should use?
20:16:09  <nathan7>use __dirname + '/tmp' or something
20:16:12  <nathan7>(make sure to create it)
20:16:47  <Dorphern>ahh okay.. that might have been the problem
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20:22:38  <gnm3000>i can use cloudamqp.com with Nodejitsu? (rabbitMQ service)
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20:27:23  <nathan7>gnm3000: Sure
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20:32:11  <Dorphern>Ah! Now it's working! Thank you @nathan7 :)
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20:38:25  <nathan7>Dorphern_: Happy to help [=
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20:45:20  <Dorphern>So that leads next problem.. When I deploy my app, the already uploaded files gets deleted, should I use an extern cloud storage instead?
20:47:03  <nathan7>Yeah
20:47:16  <nathan7>That's more temporary storage and stuff
20:47:27  <Dorphern>okay
20:48:03  <Dorphern>Can you recommend a good cloud storage for this?
20:48:22  <nathan7>I tend to shove small things in a CouchDB, I hear some people use Dropbox for it
20:49:54  <Dorphern>okay, thanks (:
20:53:03  <doktorj>nathan: re: space, thanx
20:54:46  <nathan7>[=
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21:20:28  <LeoLion>hey does anyone have experience with html5 canvas and js?
21:21:02  <LeoLion>im having a problem with Uncaught TypeError: Object #<CanvasRenderingContext2D> has no method 'beingPath'
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21:22:56  <LeoLion>omg
21:22:57  <LeoLion>sorry
21:23:13  <LeoLion>i misspelled. my eyes are hurting :/
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22:49:22  <doktorj>Hi. Would anyone be interested in helping write a spree commerce 1.3+ api multi-store product aggregator/browser possibly with an open source, cached node.js/coffeescript/express.js tech stack? Or does someone know of a similar project already happening?
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23:02:17  <dojod>Im getting a path.js error since i moved to node 0.10.1
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23:09:58  <doktorj>noone interested in a the spree commerce product aggregator/browser hey?
23:11:10  <doktorj>dojod: i recently found out that nodejitsu doesn't support 0.10.x yet ( even the new stable 0.10.5) and apparently theydon't plan to support past 0.8.x for a while which kindof makes me sad but could be worse
23:17:53  <dojod>bummer.
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23:38:40  <doktorj>yea i thought out of any node hosting place they would be on the cusp of atleast optional stable node version/selection... but i guess not. in all fairness tho apparently there is some issue with the new 'stable' node versions crypto library running 800% slower or something like that,so if that's the case i can see why they wouldn't want that in their cloud
23:39:47  <doktorj>but then again you'd think the node community would be all over fixing that before or soon after any release marked stable...