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02:26:50  <heath>micro plan rather
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07:07:31  <mokes>Hi. are there any well known sites using Nodejitsu? Any "success stories" we can refer to? Thanks
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08:27:17  <dorondev>hi
08:27:34  <dorondev>is there anyone here who can hekp me with bad login ?
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10:52:16  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: hey im still having 0 drones in my trail sandbox, which means my app starts (i see so in the log) but seems to stop again immediately, any idea on how to proceed from here?
10:53:00  <nathan7>Yep, I'm gonna figure this out
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10:53:14  <nathan7>Yesterday it was rather late so I wasn't too awake
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11:05:00  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: ok cool, I really appreciate it, want any further info from me to investigate
11:05:42  <nathan7>the last I see:
11:05:44  <nathan7>dispatcher server listening on port 2200 app=jungle, user=pjbrinck, event=drone:stdout
11:05:44  <nathan7>info: drone:stop:success key=IFb2, event=drone:stop:success
11:05:44  <nathan7>info: drone:stop:success key=IFb2, event=drone:stop:success
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11:08:15  <nathan7>pjbrinck: error: app:update app=jungle, username=pjbrinck, error=Crash loop in Application, event=app:update
11:08:21  <nathan7>pjbrinck: seems your application is crashlooping
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11:10:46  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: kinda odd, bc same app would stay up for extensive time on occasion when I have access to 1 drone and runs on my localhost, besides, how does that explain 0 drones... do U have further info on error U read
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11:16:36  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: hey, I will try with the sample hello app only, remove current app and replace it to see if that makes any diff
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11:21:05  <nathan7>pjbrinck: We run it, it dies, this repeats several times
11:21:14  <nathan7>pjbrinck: are you hooking uncaughtException anywhere?
11:21:28  <nathan7>pjbrinck: because that'd explain the distinct lack of error
11:22:11  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: I believe I am, but ya know, could have slipped in a few places, do U have a stack trace I can look at
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11:26:13  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: could it be I am using * for dependencies and Ur loaded with diff latest versions, hence I fail on nodejitsu but not on localhost?
11:26:20  <nathan7>pjbrinck: Ah
11:26:26  <nathan7>pjbrinck: Yeah, * deps are a terrible idea
11:26:35  <nathan7>pjbrinck: tip of the day: npm install -S package
11:26:48  <nathan7>pjbrinck: that'll add "package": "~1.2.3" to your dependencies
11:27:00  <nathan7>pjbrinck: (-D does the same but for devDependencies)
11:27:37  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: ok, help me here, I dont quite follow, what does package do?
11:28:11  <nathan7>pjbrinck: package is the name of your package
11:28:20  <nathan7>pjbrinck: for example, npm install -S request
11:28:39  <nathan7>pjbrinck: that will add "request": "~2.21.0" to your dependencies
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11:29:47  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: ok, I will follow that lead and revert, seems my hellow world app stays up, so I think were onto something, GREAT
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11:35:14  <nathan7>pjbrinck: :D
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11:35:51  <Nevtep>Hello
11:36:34  <Nevtep>Anyone online? I'm getting a Maximum call stack size exeeded error
11:36:42  <nathan7>Hi
11:36:51  <nathan7>That's your app recursing *deeply*
11:37:46  <Nevtep>Yeah I googled that, but I'm not even seeing winston info messages on the logs. And locally is not giving me any arrors
11:38:08  <nathan7>You can go over a thousand functions deep without hitting that limit
11:38:32  <nathan7>maybe your app only does it with NODE_ENV=production?
11:38:50  <Nevtep>let me double check
11:39:19  <Nevtep>it's just a simple rout that gets form values and creates a mongodb document with mongoose
11:39:23  <Nevtep>route*
11:40:48  <nathan7>Where is it throwing?
11:41:49  <nathan7>Nevtep: also, try doing npm update locally or freshly installing your deps
11:42:29  <Nevtep>I make a jquery $.post to the an url like :/admin/farms/create, send the data, and on the .fail handler from the jqXHR I get an error saying internal server error, looking deeper into the jqXHR shows that error message
11:42:50  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: what's the significance of the tilde in front of the package version number
11:43:06  <nathan7>pjbrinck: ~1.2.3 means >=1.2.3 <1.3.0
11:43:34  <nathan7>Nevtep: someone had this problem yesterday and it turned out being a dependency that changed
11:44:02  <pjbrinck>OK I U,
11:44:40  <Nevtep>It's not making anything in particular, it's a route that has some midleware to load an account into the req, then checks permisions (there where some recurent calls there to next() that I've removed)
11:44:48  <Nevtep>nathan7 let me try that
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12:03:38  <Nevtep>@nathan7 thant for the NPM tip I now get the error locally
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12:04:13  <Nevtep>I'm getting an "undefined" as message before any loggin, so I'll look into my code a bit
12:04:17  <Nevtep>thanks
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12:18:01  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: just out of curiosity, is there any limitations in numbers of servers I can crank up (I have 21) or limitation in port numbers I may use for my many servers? I know I can only access thru 80 from the outside
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12:22:55  <maltedmilk>I've having major issues starting our app, taking ages from cli. Came back before and said it had started when it evidentally hadn't. Sometimes getting tar 2 errors (or something) from haibu, other times getting "can't find starting script" errors
12:24:08  <maltedmilk>It finally started then randomly stoppe itself again
12:24:29  <maltedmilk>Trying to run some time critical stuff and this really isn't helping!
12:24:54  <maltedmilk>Getting socket hang up 502 when trying to access it now
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12:27:24  <maltedmilk>Finally running again (for the time being)
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12:41:37  <nathan7>pjbrinck: One app has one port.
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12:41:48  <nathan7>pjbrinck: You can hook up multiple things to one HTTP server.
12:41:58  <nathan7>maltedmilk: Is your app large?
12:42:04  <nathan7>maltedmilk: including many static assets or something
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12:42:52  <maltedmilk>@nathan7: nope, just one js file
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12:43:49  <nathan7>maltedmilk: username / app name?
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12:44:40  <maltedmilk>@nathan7: liveblogpro for both
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13:04:41  <maltedmilk>@nathan7: found anything?
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13:08:26  <nathan7>maltedmilk: not yet, I have to leave :(
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13:08:40  <nathan7>I'll figure this out when I get back, I really want to know what's going on
13:08:55  <maltedmilk>@nathan7: okay, understandable! thanks anyway
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15:55:51  <Jet___>Greetngs! What means "Script took too long to listen on a socket" ?
15:56:18  <Jet___>I deploy simples webserver, http.createServer(function (req, resp) { }
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15:58:25  <Jet___>sorry, problem solved
15:58:35  <Jet___>reason was in the wrong module
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17:22:28  <annago>Hi there. I just updated my site, got a "Nidejitsu ok", but the changes are not showing.
17:22:41  <annago>It's been 5 minutes now, I've cleared my caches.
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17:28:46  <Sly>annago: what's the username and application name?
17:29:21  <ForbesLindesay>I'm getting No free servers available. Please visit #nodejitsu on irc.freenode.net or email [email protected] for further information. and https://status.nodejitsu.com/ shows everything as operating normally
17:30:59  <ForbesLindesay>It's fixed now
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17:31:38  <Sly>ForbesLindesay: cool. I just freed some servers a little while ago.
17:31:50  <ForbesLindesay>good
17:31:53  <ForbesLindesay>:)
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17:40:52  <nathan7>Hey ForbesLindesay
17:41:12  <ForbesLindesay>Hey nathan7
17:41:37  <nathan7>'sup in forbesland?
17:42:35  <ForbesLindesay>At the moment, exciting link shortening for esdiscuss.org: http://esdiscuss.org/notes/2013-03-13
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18:03:41  <Baastrup>Hello, getting: "No free servers available."
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18:08:31  <slast>I'm getting: "error: No free servers available."
18:08:39  <slast>Does this mean I don't have enough drones?
18:08:44  <slast>Or is it a server error?
18:08:52  <Sly>Try again, guys. There should have just been some servers released.
18:08:57  <Baastrup>slast: no, nodejitsu problem
18:09:01  <Baastrup>Sly: ok
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18:09:41  <Baastrup>Sly: works now, thanks
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18:10:15  <Sly>Cool deal. :)
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18:11:55  <slast>awesome, works now thanks
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18:23:24  <mirkob>hi
18:23:48  <mirkob>was wondering what the status of flatiron is? still working on it?
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18:28:49  <Sly>mirkob: yes, it's still active.
18:29:36  <mirkob>just saw that the npm version of commandful is empty and doesn't reflect the version on github
18:30:14  <mirkob>@Sly: that's great to hear
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18:32:00  <Sly>mirkob: it seems that commandful is registered to Marak in the NPM registry, who is no longer with us. Have you looked into the package.json file to see if the package name is different?
18:34:13  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: Nice
18:34:44  <mirkob>@Sly: the name is "name": "commandful",
18:36:13  <mirkob>@Sly: "author": "", "version": "0.0.0",
18:37:18  <Sly>mirkob: You may want to consider filing a bug on this. I'm not able to publish that.
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18:39:20  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: :O
18:39:44  <ForbesLindesay>@nathan7: I've just added you to the @then team, so you will probably have just been spammed with e-mail a little
18:39:50  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: Yeah
18:39:55  <mirkob>@Sly: ok thanks will do. should I file in flatiron repo or commandful repo?
18:39:59  * nathan7feels honoured
18:40:57  <ForbesLindesay>If you want to transfer lazy-promise to the @then umbrella it would be cool to have it under the same roof (I'm way too lazy to keep the fork up to date)
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18:41:51  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: Yeah
18:41:56  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: I've been thinking about it
18:42:17  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: doing a real chainable lazily evaluated promise
18:42:35  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: so like prom.then(...).then(...).then.actually()
18:43:54  <ForbesLindesay>That would be cool, probably a separate experiment though as it wouldn't technically be "promises/A+ compliant" (or even promises/A+ inter-operable at the moment). I'd also suggest `.done` with the same semantics as Q would be a good idea
18:44:26  <nathan7>It'd be awesome if we could specify then.actually
18:45:42  <Sly>mirkob: the commandful repo
18:45:50  <ForbesLindesay>I think use `.done` to mean "terminate the promise chain and actually start running it" would be the way to go. `.done` in most implementations is the method that prevents errors being silenced
18:47:05  <nathan7>the point here is lazy evaluation though
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18:48:33  <nathan7>if I take an array of lazy promises and I feed it to a then.actually-compatible all() function
18:48:44  <mirkob>@Sly: just created the issue, thanks for your help! https://github.com/flatiron/commandful/issues/7
18:49:07  <nathan7>then I get a lazy promise for an array
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18:50:20  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: .done is user-facing and a rather different matter
18:51:43  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: more about error handling than "I need this value"
18:52:02  <ForbesLindesay>Right, I think there are three useful concepts: 1. lazy-promise to enable creating fluent APIs (of the kind popularized by jQuery) 2. Fully-lazy promises that remain lazy until you explicitly start them, even when you have a long chain of them. 3. Using laziness to force people to handle errors. (proposed in https://github.com/promises-aplus/unhandled-rejections-spec/issues/8)
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18:52:50  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: mhm
18:53:05  <ForbesLindesay>I think for the fully lazy promises, the method shouldn't be called `.then` it should be called something like `.lazy` as it doesn't behave like `.then` would be expected to.
18:53:30  <nathan7>I disagree
18:53:35  <ForbesLindesay>We could add support for that in methods like `all`
18:53:40  <nathan7>mkay
18:54:10  <nathan7>also, damnit, why didn't we stick a .aplus = true or something on then
18:54:17  <nathan7>(like define.amd)
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18:55:46  <ForbesLindesay>If we use a separate method, then passing lazy promises to an `all` that doesn't understand lazy promises results in them no longer being lazy. If we change the semantics of `.then` and pass that to an `all` that doesn't understand lazy promises, we get a promise that is never resolved because the operation is never started.
18:56:17  <nathan7>Okay
18:56:31  <ForbesLindesay>We can easily build a lazy chain of promises using a different method that is fully compatible with implementations that don't support laziness.
18:56:43  <nathan7>I'm somewhat weary of adding more methods - a then.lazy sounds okay to me
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18:57:50  <ForbesLindesay>Sticking .aplus wouldn't help anyway, they needed to be able to assimilate `thenables` which weren't `promises-aplus` compliant anyway.
18:58:16  <nathan7>mhm, but it allows for an optimisation
18:58:33  <ForbesLindesay>`promise.lazy` is a lot better than `promise.then.lazy`. There are hundreds of methods added to most promises, adding your method to the `.then` method doesn't actually help in any way, it just makes the API more verbose.
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18:58:52  <ForbesLindesay>what optimisation?
18:59:24  <nathan7>function when(thenable) { return thenable.then.aplus === true ? { then: thenable.then.bind(thenable) } : new Promise(function(resolve, reject) { thenable.then(resolve, reject) } }
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19:00:34  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: I guess we can just rely on setImmediate getting faster though
19:00:38  <ForbesLindesay>Nope, it doesn't let you do that, because the `when` method is often used when you want to call other methods like `.done` or `.get(key)`. If you don't do the full assimilation you can't use them.
19:01:12  <nathan7>It lets you skip the extra event loop turn.
19:01:33  <ForbesLindesay>Yes, there's also https://github.com/promises-aplus/synchronous-inspection-spec which will make assimilating already resolved promises potentially faster.
19:02:03  <nathan7>mhm
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19:03:10  <ForbesLindesay>It doesn't let you skip an event loop turn unless you have a way of attaching all your helper methods to an already existing promise. Our implementation would let you, but closure based implementations wouldn't.
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19:04:08  <ForbesLindesay>Anyway, I've got to go have dinner (8pm local time for me) and these discussions are probably better had in GitHub issues anyway.
19:04:36  <nathan7>ForbesLindesay: mhm
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20:05:12  <tamarzil>Hi, I'm trying to deploy my first app and I'm having some problems...
20:08:02  <tamarzil>I get " Error: Cannot find module 'express' ", but I have a "node_modules" with the express module
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20:15:28  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: getting http 502 "Reached max retries limit" on my app on a single HTTP request, not finding any info on the net abit this prob, can U clarify
20:16:06  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: let me be more specific, constantly getting it on each single HTTP request, so Im not retrying
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20:16:45  <pjbrinck>@nathan7: is there some sort of throtling in play
20:17:09  <nathan7>pjbrinck: Our balancers are retrying because a request failed
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