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00:32:10  <ArxPoetica1>hey chilluns
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12:29:53  <ArxPoetica>Morning owenb
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21:54:19  <owenb>hey ArxPoetica
21:54:22  <owenb>how's it going?
22:01:26  <ArxPoetica>hey owenb
22:01:31  <ArxPoetica>What's new?
22:03:03  <owenb>i'm good thanks - finally had time to properly work on 0.4 this week. working on it now and will get chance over the weekend too, so I'm happy :) just wanted to see if you resolved your Redis issue?
22:03:22  <ArxPoetica>Yeah?
22:03:34  <ArxPoetica>Um. I think so.
22:03:40  <ArxPoetica>Its been working anyway. :)
22:03:51  <ArxPoetica>I've been thinking of using mubsub
22:04:26  <owenb>instead of redis? i doubt Redis is the problem - more likely to be something in SS
22:04:42  <ArxPoetica>Oh no, that's not why.
22:04:43  <ArxPoetica>Mostly because for the app I'm currently building there's not really need for two db, and MongoDB is a bit friendlier for our project
22:05:29  <ArxPoetica>Anyway, I'm excited to see you working on .4 — I keep thinking of ideas, but forget to send them your way
22:05:52  <owenb>please do next time you have one :)
22:06:03  <owenb>or log a github issue at https://github.com/socketstream/socketstream-0.4
22:06:04  <ArxPoetica>the *main* one I keep thinking about though is a need to couple ss w/ express
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22:06:15  <ArxPoetica>Which you can do right now in .3
22:06:22  <owenb>yeah but it's ugly
22:06:25  <ArxPoetica>But I remember there was some discussion about scrapping that
22:06:36  <owenb>the way it's done today, for sure - that has to go in 0.4
22:06:44  <owenb>but i'm thinking of 'inverting' the coupling
22:06:44  <ArxPoetica>Okay cool.
22:06:50  <ArxPoetica>ah...gotcha
22:07:07  <owenb>so socketstream asset server becomes a piece of Connect Middleware you can use() in express
22:07:08  <ArxPoetica>okay well, if I think of more I'll put them up on github as a ticket
22:07:14  <ArxPoetica>right
22:07:33  <owenb>still got to figure out sessions. i'm working on that now
22:07:53  <ArxPoetica>Yeah. I'm finding that often the way it works (for me) is I have lots of stuff I want to just serve static, but then there's like the main app that needs the socketystreamy stuff, ha.
22:07:55  <owenb>btw https://github.com/socketstream/socketstream-0.4 works right now
22:08:02  <ArxPoetica>oh?
22:08:12  <owenb>but it's already changed a lot on my local machine
22:08:21  <owenb>going to commit what I have on Sunday, fingers crossed
22:08:22  <ArxPoetica>Pretty awesome.
22:08:24  <owenb>it will work too
22:08:37  <owenb>currently integrating browserify2 which is very different
22:08:42  <ArxPoetica>What are your thoughts on documentation? Do you want to leave it all on github?
22:08:50  <ArxPoetica>Or do you think SS deserves its own?
22:09:01  <owenb>started a new website for that
22:09:08  <ArxPoetica>Speaking of browserify —> what do you think of onejs?
22:09:09  <owenb>it needs to be on the website i think
22:09:28  <ArxPoetica>If you task me w/ helping w/ documentation, I'll do that.
22:09:41  <ArxPoetica>(two conversations at once, ha)
22:10:11  <ArxPoetica>I'm realizing how much I need SS to succeed, so to that end, I'll help evangelize. I think helping on documentation is one way I can do that.
22:10:12  <owenb>cheers :)
22:10:25  <owenb>well the new site will go up on github when i'm happy with it
22:10:33  <owenb>going to try and open it up from day one
22:10:33  <ArxPoetica>right
22:10:40  <ArxPoetica>okay cool
22:10:50  <owenb>going to try and make the API guide look like the Backbone.org site
22:10:57  <owenb>i like the fixed left sidebar as the index
22:11:00  <owenb>and everything on one page
22:11:07  <ArxPoetica>nice
22:11:08  <owenb>just looking at OneJS
22:11:11  <owenb>hmmm
22:11:17  <owenb>there is also TJs Component
22:11:22  <owenb>which in many ways is better for SS
22:11:25  <ArxPoetica>Yeah. I read a lot recently about it. About OneJs
22:11:38  <ArxPoetica>The author claims browserify "pollutes the global namespace"
22:11:39  <owenb>this is going to be a tough call
22:11:50  <owenb>i don't think it does
22:11:57  <owenb>certainly not Browerify2
22:12:07  <ArxPoetica>substack confessed at one point that it was true
22:12:11  <ArxPoetica>but he may have fixed it
22:12:11  <owenb>but it does have a major disadvantage for us - it can ONLY load files
22:12:15  <owenb>and then package them up
22:12:25  <owenb>it doesn't allow me to dynamically inject modules
22:12:35  <ArxPoetica>right
22:12:37  <owenb>either at the start, or with ss.load.code() or anything similar
22:12:48  <owenb>but you do get a smaller code footprint
22:12:49  <ArxPoetica>yeah, I was thinking of giving onejs a try at work for a project
22:12:53  <ArxPoetica>but ran out of time
22:12:56  <owenb>so i need to make a decision this weekend
22:13:10  <ArxPoetica>good luck
22:13:12  <owenb>if it's impossible to do what i want with browserify2 i'll have to look at alternatives
22:13:19  <owenb>cheers
22:13:22  <ArxPoetica>okay gotta get on a call
22:13:26  <ArxPoetica>later
22:13:35  <owenb>sure. take care