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| <mikeal> | SubStack: exceptions in processes that fleet is keeping up with spawn |
| 00:02:54
| <mikeal> | where do they go? |
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| <SubStack> | they should be in the stderr stream |
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| <SubStack> | check out bin/monitor.js |
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| <mikeal> | monitor is showing me an exception in fleet :) |
| 00:08:31
| <mikeal> | https://gist.github.com/2004263 |
| 00:10:33
| <SubStack> | mikeal: is that the most recent version of everything? |
| 00:10:39
| <SubStack> | including the drones |
| 00:10:48
| <SubStack> | that part of the api has been in flux recently |
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| * SubStack | coffee & |
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| <mikeal> | SubStack: i just did a fresh git pull from you |
| 00:26:07
| <mikeal> | and that's what it's from |
| 00:26:19
| <mikeal> | that exception is after my process exception |
| 00:26:24
| <mikeal> | btw, i love you SubStack :) |
| 00:26:43
| <mikeal> | monitor is fuckin amazing |
| 00:33:28
| <chapel> | this monitor? https://github.com/lorenwest/node-monitor |
| 00:39:52
| <SubStack> | mikeal: well it seems like the obvious way of doing it |
| 00:39:57
| <SubStack> | not sure why this didn't exist already |
| 00:40:21
| * SubStack | is at awaken cafe |
| 00:40:53
| <SubStack> | reminds me a bit of public domain in portland |
| 00:42:29
| <SubStack> | mikeal: anyways as a work-around (proc.command && proc.command.join(' ')) |
| 00:42:37
| <SubStack> | not sure why proc doesn't have a command though |
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| <SubStack> | chapel: fleet monitor |
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| <chapel> | saw, after I read up a bit more |
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| <SubStack> | WHY DON'T VENTURE CAPITALISTS SPEAK IN ALL CAPS I THOUGHT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CAPITALISTS |
| 01:07:52
| <LOUDBOT> | I REALLY COCKED THINGS UP THIS TIME |
| 01:08:46
| <SubStack> | haha starting to get spam bots leaving comments on browserling |
| 01:10:37
| <ircretary> | SPAMBOTS AREN'T MADE OF SPAM BUT I AM MADE OF IRCRETARIES |
| 01:10:38
| <LOUDBOT> | ALSO WE MOVED A SITE TO A NEW DATACENTER TODAY. GUESS WHAT THE TTL IS ON THE HOSTNAME FOR THE SITE. |
| 01:12:17
| <SubStack> | 70 shirts sold woo! |
| 01:12:31
| <niftylettuce> | :D :D :D |
| 01:13:08
| <SubStack> | at 73 there's supposed to be some kind of price break where I make more money I guess? |
| 01:13:18
| <SubStack> | that's what wiwillia was saying |
| 01:15:14
| <SubStack> | mikeal: did you find out what was wrong? |
| 01:15:57
| <niftylettuce> | man Teespring charges too much |
| 01:16:03
| <niftylettuce> | i def know what im doing with my tee.ly domain now |
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| 01:17:43
| <niftylettuce> | they can get tons of VC funding etc. but when it comes to value they are greedy |
| 01:18:22
| <niftylettuce> | either they are printing the shirts themselves and have a screenprinter who prints like 1 shirt every 10 minutes, or they have someone nickel and diming them |
| 01:19:25
| <mikeal> | SubStack: i found out what was wrong with my app |
| 01:19:32
| <mikeal> | it could be that fleet is not the latest |
| 01:19:36
| <mikeal> | on the drones |
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| 01:55:38
| <SubStack> | holy crap |
| 01:55:40
| <SubStack> | so many signups |
| 01:56:00
| <niftylettuce> | :D |
| 01:58:14
| <chapel> | tis a good thing |
| 01:58:20
| <chapel> | its awesome seeing it happen |
| 01:58:23
| <chapel> | happy for you guys |
| 02:00:30
| <dak1n1> | SubStack: you guys have probably already seen this, but just in case: https://gist.github.com/2001456 |
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| <SubStack> | dak1n1: yep! in fact the npm maintainer isaacs is right here in this channel! |
| 02:02:42
| <isaacs> | hello |
| 02:03:01
| <dak1n1> | oh nice |
| 02:03:05
| <dak1n1> | well good :) |
| 02:03:22
| <dak1n1> | I figured you'd be in the loop |
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| 02:04:24
| <SubStack> | dak1n1: also check this project out! https://github.com/substack/fleet |
| 02:05:05
| <SubStack> | commands to upload code to a bunch of services at once for continuous deployment |
| 02:05:13
| <dak1n1> | sweet |
| 02:05:14
| <SubStack> | and run them and manage the processes |
| 02:05:28
| <SubStack> | here's an example that sets up a local hub for instance https://github.com/substack/fleet/blob/master/example/local-cluster/start.sh |
| 02:05:46
| <SubStack> | a local hub and some local drones for demonstrative purposes |
| 02:06:09
| <SubStack> | but any of those processes could live anywhere on the network |
| 02:06:44
| <dak1n1> | very nice |
| 02:07:17
| <dak1n1> | ooh, I like the monitor command |
| 02:08:04
| <dak1n1> | looks kind of similar to the parallel ssh type stuff I use |
| 02:08:21
| <dak1n1> | but with added fancyness |
| 02:08:35
| <SubStack> | yeah this thing integrates with git out of the box |
| 02:08:50
| <guybrush> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc |
| 02:08:51
| <SubStack> | fleet deploy does a `git push` to a custom server it sets up |
| 02:09:03
| <dak1n1> | oh wow |
| 02:09:06
| <dak1n1> | that is fancy |
| 02:09:16
| <SubStack> | and then the code gets checked out into an entirely new directory |
| 02:09:35
| <SubStack> | so the old processes can still run as you bring up new ones |
| 02:10:18
| <SubStack> | since new code is risky so you'll probably want to test it before putting it into production |
| 02:11:14
| <dak1n1> | yeah. Unfortunately I'm not doing any prod stuff at the moment.. I'm just a simple test monkey. |
| 02:12:04
| <SubStack> | contract work or something salary? |
| 02:12:16
| <dak1n1> | contract at Intel |
| 02:12:23
| <SubStack> | oh neat |
| 02:12:24
| <dak1n1> | cool company, but I dont like the work much |
| 02:12:44
| <dak1n1> | still, a chance to play with clusters is good |
| 02:13:46
| <dak1n1> | "multi-server continuous git-based deployment and process management" ... hmm, that kind of reminds me of Puppet or Chef. I'll have to give this a try when I start learning that type of thing |
| 02:14:08
| <dak1n1> | I've been wanting to get into that type of thing for my servers |
| 02:14:34
| * dak1n1 | bookmarks |
| 02:14:45
| <SubStack> | yeah except with this you need to configure 0 things |
| 02:14:53
| <dak1n1> | that sounds awesome |
| 02:14:55
| <SubStack> | just run the hub somewhere and the drones on your workers |
| 02:14:58
| <SubStack> | and pow everything works |
| 02:15:25
| <dak1n1> | I think I'm sold on this now, heh |
| 02:15:32
| <SubStack> | awesome |
| 02:15:34
| <dak1n1> | zero config for a deployment tool.. that's something |
| 02:15:52
| <SubStack> | yeah I don't like configuring things |
| 02:16:17
| <dak1n1> | I love configuring, and learning how things work, but then I like to script it away |
| 02:16:22
| <dak1n1> | anything repetitive is annoying |
| 02:16:26
| <SubStack> | well the only configuration is setting up an optional remote on your git repo |
| 02:16:34
| <dak1n1> | easy! |
| 02:16:37
| <SubStack> | fleet remote --secret=beepboop --hub=localhost:7000 |
| 02:16:42
| <SubStack> | that makes a fleet.json |
| 02:16:45
| <SubStack> | but that's it! |
| 02:16:50
| <dak1n1> | sweet deal |
| 02:17:11
| <SubStack> | oh I mean fleet remote add --secret=beepboop --hub=localhost:7000 |
| 02:17:26
| <dak1n1> | I'll share this with my sysadmin friends right now.. I'm excited :) |
| 02:17:33
| <SubStack> | bwahaha |
| 02:18:17
| * SubStack | has been iterating on this idea for a long time |
| 02:19:03
| <dak1n1> | so.. I could use this to install and configure packages on remote machines, yeah? |
| 02:19:10
| <dak1n1> | maybe it would grab configs from git or something |
| 02:19:26
| <SubStack> | hmmm maybe |
| 02:19:46
| <SubStack> | you could check your configs into git |
| 02:19:52
| <dak1n1> | oh. maybe I misunderstood things.. I should go rtfm before spouting off about it on G+ |
| 02:20:12
| <SubStack> | oh yeah actually |
| 02:22:11
| <SubStack> | if you had a repo with code that fetched, configured, and installed packages |
| 02:22:22
| <SubStack> | then you could deploy that repo and tell the drones to build the new stuff |
| 02:22:23
| <SubStack> | PLUS |
| 02:22:29
| <SubStack> | if you installed into the cwd |
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| <SubStack> | into a ./build |
| 02:22:56
| <SubStack> | then all your installations would be versioned according to your repo versioning! |
| 02:23:04
| <SubStack> | that actually sounds like a really good way to do it |
| 02:24:09
| <dak1n1> | so the git repo would contain a package installation script + configs? Then drones go set it up for me? |
| 02:24:38
| <dak1n1> | it might also need a script to tell it how to update the configs, in case I push out a configuration change to the git server |
| 02:24:40
| <SubStack> | yep I think that would work |
| 02:24:51
| <SubStack> | well you have to tell the drones to run some commands |
| 02:25:09
| <dak1n1> | I guess I was thinking of "configuration management tool" when I read "continuous deployment"... I was off. I dont know much about programmer-type things like that. |
| 02:25:28
| <SubStack> | but after you `fleet deploy` you could `fleet spawn --drones=\* -- ./build.sh` |
| 02:25:43
| <dak1n1> | ok, that sounds easy enough |
| 02:26:09
| <SubStack> | oh actually, bad idea >_< |
| 02:26:14
| <SubStack> | fleet exec instead of fleet spawn |
| 02:26:18
| <SubStack> | but otherwise |
| 02:26:27
| <SubStack> | because spawn restarts the process when it dies |
| 02:26:33
| <dak1n1> | ah ok |
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| <SubStack> | check out the new ui as I hack on it! http://browserling.com:9000/encoder.html |
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| <pkrumins> | now at 79 users |
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| <wiwillia> | SubStack and it's all in the works now! |
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| <Altreus> | pkrumins: stalking mai twitters |
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| <pkrumins> | wasn't me |
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| <Altreus> | k |
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| <Altreus> | stealth kit |
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| <pkrumins> | new blog post http://www.catonmat.net/blog/why-vim-uses-hjkl-as-arrow-keys/ |
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| <pkrumins> | #1 spot in hacker news secured |
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| <Altreus> | pkrumins: cool article mr |
| 16:51:44
| <pkrumins> | thanks sir |
| 16:51:56
| <Altreus> | left a comment for your enjoyment |
| 16:52:21
| <pkrumins> | see hacker news discussions for an answer! |
| 16:52:26
| <pkrumins> | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3684515 |
| 16:52:33
| <pkrumins> | top comment is the best one |
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| <Altreus> | cool |
| 16:54:24
| <Altreus> | there's so much in computing history to know |
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| <pkrumins> | Altreus: updated the post with bonus |
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| <pkrumins> | the simplest articles are the most popular ones |
| 19:44:19
| <pkrumins> | my latest article is at 26,000 views in 3hrs. |
| 19:45:07
| <pkrumins> | and over 200 pts on hacker news! |
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| <ryan_stevens> | pkrumins: nice! |
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| <rook2pawn> | pkrumins: crazy awesome |
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| <SubStack> | 73 oakland js shirts told \o/ |
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| <SubStack> | *sold |
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| <pkrumins> | 80! |
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| <SubStack> | wowsy |
| 21:24:55
| <SubStack> | ^5 |
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| <pkrumins> | o/ |
| 21:28:38
| <pkrumins> | 32,000 visitors to catonmat! |
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| <chapel> | nice |
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| <wiwillia> | nice pkrumins |
| 21:55:47
| <pkrumins> | 39,000 now |
| 21:55:59
| <wiwillia> | what's driving in the traffic? |
| 21:56:13
| <pkrumins> | 100,000 is my record for a single blog post in 24hrs |
| 21:56:34
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia, hacker news, osnews, reddit, and twitter! |
| 21:56:54
| <wiwillia> | congrats - that's crazy |
| 21:56:56
| <pkrumins> | twitter search for hjkl is funny |
| 21:57:10
| <pkrumins> | i want my daily traffic to be like that :) |
| 21:58:15
| <wiwillia> | haha |
| 21:58:17
| <wiwillia> | don't we all |
| 21:58:25
| <wiwillia> | still, 39,000 is amazing |
| 21:58:29
| <wiwillia> | and it's early |
| 21:58:31
| <wiwillia> | still 3rd on HN |
| 21:58:48
| <pkrumins> | this post will set a new record |
| 22:01:20
| <wiwillia> | Teespring shirt? |
| 22:01:21
| <wiwillia> | :) |
| 22:01:30
| <wiwillia> | hjkl? |
| 22:01:48
| <pkrumins> | ahaha. |
| 22:02:02
| <pkrumins> | SubStack: wanna help me out and draw art for hjkl t-shirt? :) |
| 22:02:13
| <wiwillia> | SubStack: do it! monetize those visits. |
| 22:02:58
| <pkrumins> | let's do it while it's hot |
| 22:03:09
| <chapel> | well you should have it be the keys |
| 22:03:13
| <chapel> | the hjkl |
| 22:03:15
| <chapel> | with the arrows |
| 22:03:17
| <chapel> | and be the keys |
| 22:03:24
| <chapel> | I'd buy it |
| 22:04:08
| <wiwillia> | okay |
| 22:04:11
| <wiwillia> | let me mock something up |
| 22:04:20
| <wiwillia> | what color? |
| 22:04:22
| <wiwillia> | black? |
| 22:04:29
| <pkrumins> | yeah black |
| 22:04:40
| <pkrumins> | no wait, maybe white with black keys |
| 22:04:43
| <pkrumins> | no keys are white. |
| 22:04:46
| <pkrumins> | so black shirt, white keys. |
| 22:04:54
| <pkrumins> | SubStack: where you at |
| 22:04:59
| <pkrumins> | let's do this quick!! |
| 22:05:44
| <wiwillia> | pkrumins just the 4 keys? |
| 22:06:00
| <wiwillia> | problem is I don't have that cool cartoonish style that SubStack has, mine would actually look like keys |
| 22:06:02
| <chapel> | not a great shirt, but an example http://www.zazzle.com/wasd_real_gamers_use_keys_tshirt-235539001982449205 |
| 22:06:31
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: yeah just the 4 keys, and i guess we also need the arrows |
| 22:06:40
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: http://www.catonmat.net/images/why-vim-uses-hjkl/adm-3a-hjkl-keyboard.jpg |
| 22:06:57
| <pkrumins> | keys and arrows exactly like that |
| 22:07:23
| <wiwillia> | kk |
| 22:08:01
| <chapel> | :) |
| 22:08:50
| <SubStack> | beep! |
| 22:09:15
| <SubStack> | pkrumins: on it |
| 22:09:39
| <pkrumins> | now we have a race condition! |
| 22:09:45
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia and SubStack both doing design |
| 22:09:57
| <pkrumins> | ok we'll choose the best :) |
| 22:10:54
| <wiwillia> | SubStack wins |
| 22:10:56
| <wiwillia> | prediction made |
| 22:10:57
| <wiwillia> | lol |
| 22:13:25
| <wiwillia> | pkrumins if you want to think of a description, title, tipping point and url (www.teespring.com/hjkl probably) we can get this thing moving |
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| <pkrumins> | url is good |
| 22:14:13
| <pkrumins> | q about tipping point - what happens if it's reached quicker than deadline? |
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| <pkrumins> | let's set it to 30 |
| 22:16:13
| <wiwillia> | you can keep selling until deadline |
| 22:16:18
| <wiwillia> | you oversell = you get the extra savings |
| 22:16:52
| <pkrumins> | title: hjkl vim t-shirt? |
| 22:17:24
| <chapel> | nop arrows |
| 22:17:28
| <chapel> | thats what it should be |
| 22:17:29
| <chapel> | :P |
| 22:17:36
| <pkrumins> | so unicode arrows? |
| 22:17:39
| <chapel> | or arrows nop |
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| <wiwillia> | http://i.imgur.com/QFBwh.jpg |
| 22:18:20
| <wiwillia> | that's my boring attempt |
| 22:18:25
| <wiwillia> | I'll focus on the campaign details for now |
| 22:18:37
| <pkrumins> | looks pretty awesome |
| 22:18:42
| <pkrumins> | let's see what substack got |
| 22:18:49
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: help me write title and desc |
| 22:18:53
| <chapel> | I like it |
| 22:18:54
| <wiwillia> | will do |
| 22:18:58
| <chapel> | maybe bigger keys? |
| 22:19:34
| <chapel> | arrows are wrong btw |
| 22:19:39
| <chapel> | k = up |
| 22:19:42
| <chapel> | l = right |
| 22:19:56
| <pkrumins> | oh snap |
| 22:19:57
| <pkrumins> | nice catch |
| 22:20:53
| <wiwillia> | can you tell I'm not a vim man? |
| 22:20:55
| <wiwillia> | haha |
| 22:20:59
| <chapel> | why not? |
| 22:21:03
| <chapel> | vim is the best |
| 22:21:38
| <wiwillia> | the devs here don't even let me touch anything besides the html/css anymore haha |
| 22:21:46
| <pkrumins> | wurr |
| 22:24:30
| <chapel> | vim works great with html/css |
| 22:24:45
| <pkrumins> | all ready to put it on my site |
| 22:25:30
| <wiwillia> | http://teespring.com/hjklsample |
| 22:25:33
| <wiwillia> | okay lets work on a title and copy |
| 22:25:52
| <wiwillia> | the margin is going to be great on these at $15 |
| 22:25:55
| <wiwillia> | only 1 color |
| 22:26:57
| <pkrumins> | let's change the title to just "hjkl vim t-shirt" |
| 22:27:09
| <wiwillia> | k |
| 22:27:10
| <pkrumins> | looks too obscure right now |
| 22:27:17
| <pkrumins> | all the deals will be through my post anyway |
| 22:27:28
| <wiwillia> | refresh |
| 22:28:09
| <pkrumins> | let's upper case first letters: HJKL Vim T-Shirt |
| 22:29:05
| <pkrumins> | now description |
| 22:30:11
| <wiwillia> | kk |
| 22:30:40
| <pkrumins> | umm just Vim |
| 22:30:43
| <pkrumins> | not VIM |
| 22:30:49
| <pkrumins> | alright now description |
| 22:31:57
| <pkrumins> | chapel: help us out with description |
| 22:32:02
| <pkrumins> | i'm not good at this |
| 22:32:13
| <chapel> | the writer is not good at writing :P |
| 22:32:21
| <pkrumins> | hah |
| 22:32:50
| <pkrumins> | Bill Joy wore this t-shirt when he created vi. Now you can too. |
| 22:32:58
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: change Vim to Vi actually |
| 22:33:02
| <wiwillia> | kk |
| 22:33:31
| <wiwillia> | done |
| 22:33:41
| <pkrumins> | so far so good |
| 22:33:50
| <pkrumins> | SubStack: how is progress going with the drawing? |
| 22:34:13
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: at the moment we can put your drawing on the shirt |
| 22:34:18
| <pkrumins> | just fix the arrows |
| 22:34:58
| <wiwillia> | aight |
| 22:35:25
| <chapel> | The original way to code, as Bill Joy intended. |
| 22:35:30
| <pkrumins> | should the descr be funny or descriptive or how? |
| 22:36:24
| <wiwillia> | http://i.imgur.com/hX5q1.jpg |
| 22:36:30
| <SubStack> | pkrumins: I have the key outlines done |
| 22:36:41
| <wiwillia> | SubStack's graphics are going to be better |
| 22:36:43
| <wiwillia> | I'm sure |
| 22:36:52
| <pkrumins> | SubStack: awesome, carry on! |
| 22:38:22
| <pkrumins> | bill joy took arrow in the knee. |
| 22:38:28
| <pkrumins> | hmm |
| 22:39:30
| <wiwillia> | haha |
| 22:39:31
| <wiwillia> | love it |
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| 22:40:25
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: change the link |
| 22:40:27
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: Learn why VIM uses the HJKL keys as arrows |
| 22:40:28
| <pkrumins> | to |
| 22:40:37
| <pkrumins> | Learn why Vi uses the HJKL keys as arrows |
| 22:40:54
| <pkrumins> | no wait |
| 22:40:58
| <pkrumins> | Learn why vi uses the HJKL keys as arrows |
| 22:40:59
| <pkrumins> | there |
| 22:41:35
| <pkrumins> | in the descripting |
| 22:41:38
| <pkrumins> | in the description |
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| <pkrumins> | Description: Bill Joy took arrow in the knee in early career. Ever since then he used hjkl as arrow keys. If you don't want to take arrow in the knee get this t-shirt! |
| 22:43:09
| <pkrumins> | Description: Bill Joy took arrow in the knee in early career. Ever since then he used hjkl as arrow keys. If you don't want to take arrow in the knee, get this t-shirt now! |
| 22:45:29
| <pkrumins> | --- |
| 22:45:46
| <pkrumins> | shrug. |
| 22:46:14
| <pkrumins> | Description: Everyone who uses vim will know what this shirt means. |
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| 22:46:33
| <pkrumins> | Description: Want to troll emacs users. Get this shirt and go to emacs conf. |
| 22:46:55
| <pkrumins> | Description: Emacs too much? Learn vim! |
| 22:47:13
| <SubStack> | http://substack.net/images/hjkl.png |
| 22:47:17
| <pkrumins> | Description: Borat uses vim for devops. So should you. |
| 22:47:19
| <SubStack> | http://substack.net/images/hjkl.svg |
| 22:47:51
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: put it on the shirt |
| 22:48:42
| <SubStack> | merch! |
| 22:49:34
| <wiwillia> | kk |
| 22:49:35
| <wiwillia> | on it |
| 22:50:12
| <pkrumins> | i have no idea about description |
| 22:50:30
| <pkrumins> | i dont think it matters |
| 22:50:32
| <wiwillia> | you want that brown? |
| 22:50:34
| <wiwillia> | or the black? |
| 22:50:36
| <pkrumins> | black |
| 22:51:01
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: can you convert bg to black easily? |
| 22:51:35
| <wiwillia> | ya |
| 22:54:05
| <pkrumins> | description: when bill joy designed vi he chose hjkl for moving the cursor around. this shirt represents that. <a href="">Learn why vi uses the HJKL keys as arrows</a> |
| 22:54:10
| <wiwillia> | http://i.imgur.com/tlhk5.jpg |
| 22:54:33
| <pkrumins> | chapel: which one do you like better http://i.imgur.com/tlhk5.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/hX5q1.jpg |
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| 22:55:53
| <wiwillia> | I like SubStacks |
| 22:57:02
| <chapel> | hmm, first one |
| 22:57:03
| <wiwillia> | I think we might want to go a little funny with the description, increases the % of people who share it out |
| 22:57:10
| <chapel> | but bigger keys |
| 22:57:28
| <wiwillia> | k on it |
| 22:58:05
| <wiwillia> | one thing is, on a ghosted shirt it always looks like the art is going to be small |
| 22:58:17
| <wiwillia> | that's like 7" across |
| 22:58:55
| <pkrumins> | i actually like wiwillia's version better |
| 23:00:23
| <chapel> | which is who's? |
| 23:00:28
| <wiwillia> | http://teespring.com/hjkl |
| 23:00:47
| <wiwillia> | mine is the flat representation |
| 23:01:26
| <pkrumins> | let's go with wiwillia's flat representation |
| 23:02:25
| <wiwillia> | you sure? even I like substack's more haha - but this is your campaign, your call |
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| 23:02:58
| <prsn> | hey, random other teespring dev here: I vote for the raised keys design :P |
| 23:02:58
| <pkrumins> | ok can you make one modification |
| 23:03:04
| <pkrumins> | make H aligned with JKL |
| 23:03:10
| <pkrumins> | in the substack's design |
| 23:03:14
| <prsn> | i agree with ^ too |
| 23:03:16
| <pkrumins> | and make the letters HJKL a bit fatter |
| 23:03:38
| <wiwillia> | aight, SubStack, you on that or should I try and do it? |
| 23:03:49
| <pkrumins> | alright let's go with substack's but with these 2 changes |
| 23:03:57
| <SubStack> | aligned? |
| 23:04:17
| <pkrumins> | H is a bit above JKL |
| 23:06:14
| <SubStack> | http://substack.net/images/hjkl.png |
| 23:06:21
| <SubStack> | http://substack.net/images/hjkl.svg |
| 23:06:31
| <pkrumins> | :D |
| 23:06:47
| <SubStack> | oh wait |
| 23:06:55
| <SubStack> | arrow is too far up |
| 23:06:56
| <SubStack> | fixing |
| 23:07:07
| <wiwillia> | k |
| 23:07:16
| <pkrumins> | oh yes |
| 23:07:35
| <wiwillia> | I tinkered with the description, but it's completely your call what to put for it |
| 23:07:45
| <SubStack> | fixed http://substack.net/images/hjkl.png |
| 23:07:56
| <pkrumins> | nice |
| 23:08:17
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: haha. i like it |
| 23:08:18
| <prsn> | it still feels like there's this general progression downwards to the right.. not so much with the letters but the keys. it's not terrible but i kinda wish it were more even |
| 23:08:19
| <wiwillia> | can I get the SVg SubStack |
| 23:08:22
| <pkrumins> | need to change 1st sentence perhaps |
| 23:08:37
| <SubStack> | http://substack.net/images/hjkl.svg |
| 23:08:46
| <pkrumins> | i cant tell if it's not put on a t-shirt |
| 23:09:07
| <SubStack> | prsn: there is a small amount of perspective as you go from left to right |
| 23:09:10
| <SubStack> | is why |
| 23:09:36
| <SubStack> | the keys are at the same vertical position across, it's just a cloned element with the inner rectangle shifted |
| 23:09:41
| <pkrumins> | Bill Joy doesn't use arrow keys. He uses HJKL. Following in the footsteps of greatness, we put HJKL on this beautiful, limited edition t-shirt. Bonus: Great for trolling emacs users. |
| 23:09:52
| <wiwillia> | great |
| 23:09:55
| <wiwillia> | love it |
| 23:10:16
| <wiwillia> | http://imgur.com/VL4Bs |
| 23:10:17
| <pkrumins> | alright i got my blog post setup |
| 23:10:21
| <pkrumins> | jsut need tshirt img |
| 23:10:31
| <pkrumins> | SWEET |
| 23:10:32
| <pkrumins> | lov eit |
| 23:10:40
| <wiwillia> | description is up |
| 23:10:42
| <wiwillia> | adding new images |
| 23:11:28
| <SubStack> | wiwillia, prsn: feature request: the ability to upload tshirt campaigns entirely over curl with http basic auth |
| 23:11:43
| <wiwillia> | I think making the title a word or two longer would help |
| 23:11:49
| <wiwillia> | haha SubStack don't give prsn any ideas |
| 23:11:58
| <prsn> | that would be nice.. |
| 23:12:34
| <pkrumins> | I'm done |
| 23:12:39
| <pkrumins> | ready to push publish |
| 23:12:45
| <pkrumins> | to push out updates command |
| 23:13:08
| <pkrumins> | SubStack: why would a tshirt company need that? |
| 23:13:15
| <SubStack> | because it's awesome! |
| 23:13:33
| <pkrumins> | it's awesome for testling |
| 23:13:38
| <pkrumins> | not for a tshirt company! |
| 23:13:43
| <SubStack> | pfft! |
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| 23:14:03
| <prsn> | it's true it would probably not be in very high demand :P |
| 23:14:07
| <SubStack> | curl -sSNT shirt.svg 'http://[email protected]/create?title=beep+boop&desc=Beeptiy+boop!' |
| 23:14:24
| <prsn> | you forgot price |
| 23:14:28
| <SubStack> | oh right |
| 23:14:29
| <prsn> | and duration |
| 23:14:29
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: eta? |
| 23:14:34
| <wiwillia> | 2 minutes |
| 23:14:37
| <pkrumins> | ready to push it out to 100 visitors per min. |
| 23:14:42
| <wiwillia> | nice |
| 23:14:45
| <tm604> | pkrumins: what, you mean your tshirts *don't* have built-in http servers? |
| 23:15:07
| <chapel> | why not just use put |
| 23:15:07
| <pkrumins> | tm604: no |
| 23:15:20
| <SubStack> | chapel: -T does a put implicitly |
| 23:15:27
| <chapel> | and http://teespring.com/url |
| 23:15:35
| <chapel> | well put goes against a known url |
| 23:15:36
| <chapel> | not create |
| 23:15:40
| <pkrumins> | proggit spot #1 |
| 23:15:41
| <pkrumins> | 328 upvotes |
| 23:16:48
| <chapel> | http://teespring.com/hjkl << still shows sample tee for me |
| 23:16:58
| <wiwillia> | hard refresh |
| 23:17:00
| <wiwillia> | it's up |
| 23:17:19
| <pkrumins> | pubishign |
| 23:17:27
| <prsn> | should "Vi" really be caplitalized? |
| 23:17:43
| <prsn> | looks weird to me |
| 23:17:46
| <pkrumins> | it's live |
| 23:18:02
| <pkrumins> | prsn: i just capitalized it as a title |
| 23:18:12
| <prsn> | yeah, it makes sense |
| 23:18:18
| <pkrumins> | http://www.catonmat.net/blog/why-vim-uses-hjkl-as-arrow-keys/ |
| 23:18:24
| <chapel> | wiwillia: think I could get a 5x version again? |
| 23:18:31
| <wiwillia> | yessir |
| 23:18:34
| <wiwillia> | email me so I remember |
| 23:18:34
| <chapel> | :D |
| 23:18:46
| <chapel> | whats your email? |
| 23:18:51
| <wiwillia> | walker (at) teespring (dot) com |
| 23:19:21
| <pkrumins> | and on monday this post will be sent to 7000 people as well |
| 23:19:27
| <pkrumins> | at 9am est |
| 23:19:31
| <pkrumins> | 7600. |
| 23:19:53
| <wiwillia> | haha awesome |
| 23:20:02
| <wiwillia> | should I comment it on the proggit/hn posts? |
| 23:20:08
| <wiwillia> | slash tweet |
| 23:20:15
| <pkrumins> | tweet yeah |
| 23:20:21
| <pkrumins> | thinking about if commenting is necessary |
| 23:20:35
| <pkrumins> | like it's totally noticable |
| 23:20:39
| <pkrumins> | no need for extra comms |
| 23:20:41
| <pkrumins> | just tweets |
| 23:20:43
| <pkrumins> | tweeting too |
| 23:21:27
| <pkrumins> | show me how your tweet looks |
| 23:21:40
| <pkrumins> | i wrote this but didnt yet tweet Get your own HJKL vim t-shirt! http://teespring.com/hjkl |
| 23:22:18
| <pkrumins> | perhaps i should go 'HJKL vim t-shirts are now available! http://teespring.com/hjkl' |
| 23:22:25
| <pkrumins> | yeah this is better |
| 23:22:40
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: what's your twitter handle |
| 23:22:44
| <wiwillia> | teespring_ |
| 23:22:46
| <wiwillia> | ha |
| 23:22:56
| <wiwillia> | a nice grandma won't let us have teespring |
| 23:23:02
| <wiwillia> | I don't have a ton of followers unfortunately |
| 23:23:24
| <pkrumins> | hah, nice resposne to @qrush |
| 23:23:55
| <pkrumins> | retweet! https://twitter.com/#!/pkrumins/status/178259694392049664 |
| 23:24:05
| <pkrumins> | chapel, SubStack, please retweet https://twitter.com/#!/pkrumins/status/178259694392049664 |
| 23:24:39
| <niftylettuce> | bahhh nice! |
| 23:24:39
| <niftylettuce> | lol! |
| 23:24:45
| <pkrumins> | niftylettuce: retwet |
| 23:24:47
| <pkrumins> | and get a shirt! |
| 23:24:49
| <prsn> | 664 |
| 23:24:49
| <prsn> | 18:24 < niftylettuce> bahhh nice! |
| 23:24:59
| <niftylettuce> | 663 |
| 23:25:02
| <niftylettuce> | what is this madness |
| 23:25:12
| <niftylettuce> | prsn: explain yourself |
| 23:25:43
| <pkrumins> | Pinging Google. |
| 23:25:44
| <pkrumins> | Successfully pinged Google. Response: Thanks for the ping. |
| 23:25:58
| <prsn> | niftylettuce: middleclick :( |
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| 23:26:07
| <niftylettuce> | lol |
| 23:26:07
| <pkrumins> | 7! |
| 23:26:08
| <pkrumins> | 9! |
| 23:26:08
| <niftylettuce> | haha |
| 23:26:14
| <niftylettuce> | i just retweetessies |
| 23:26:21
| <niftylettuce> | $15? im gonna be poor with all these t-shirts |
| 23:26:22
| <ryan_stevens> | pkrumins: those shirts are great! |
| 23:26:25
| <wiwillia> | pkrumins: you should tweet qrush he might think I'm trying to make money off your post |
| 23:26:28
| <niftylettuce> | i might be poor, but at least I have some cool shirts! |
| 23:26:34
| <niftylettuce> | :D |
| 23:26:50
| <pkrumins> | man this might go into 1000 t-shirt sold |
| 23:27:06
| <niftylettuce> | probably |
| 23:27:44
| <wiwillia> | pkrumins if it gets to 1,000 shirts you're going to walk away with $5-6,000 |
| 23:27:54
| <pkrumins> | ahahah. |
| 23:28:38
| <pkrumins> | 10 now. |
| 23:28:50
| <ryan_stevens> | this is the moment in time where pkrumins and substack pivoted stackvm into a t-shirt company |
| 23:28:54
| <pkrumins> | we'll split the revenue with substack |
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| 23:29:00
| <niftylettuce> | wiwillia: are you behind teespring? |
| 23:29:02
| <chapel> | whats my cut? |
| 23:29:02
| <pkrumins> | ryan_stevens: ahaha. |
| 23:29:04
| <wiwillia> | well I don't need any of it |
| 23:29:08
| <wiwillia> | but you two can split it |
| 23:29:11
| <wiwillia> | we make like ~$2 a t-shirt |
| 23:29:13
| <SubStack> | ryan_stevens: I know right? |
| 23:29:14
| <wiwillia> | so you're making me money |
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| <chapel> | wiwillia: did you get my oakjs shirt sorted? |
| 23:29:43
| <wiwillia> | yep! |
| 23:29:46
| <wiwillia> | on its way to the printer now. |
| 23:29:54
| <chapel> | awesome :) |
| 23:30:07
| <chapel> | wish you guys were around a few years ago |
| 23:30:33
| <chapel> | a dj friend of mine didn't have merch, so I had him get some artwork from his albums and stuff, and setup a shirt shop for him |
| 23:30:34
| <wiwillia> | niftylettuce: me & prsn are part of the teespring team |
| 23:30:45
| <niftylettuce> | coolio |
| 23:30:46
| <pkrumins> | awesome job |
| 23:30:51
| <wiwillia> | chapel: well now you can recommend us to all your friends :P |
| 23:31:06
| <chapel> | but had you been around, it would have been easier to setup |
| 23:31:16
| <chapel> | and more fun |
| 23:31:33
| <wiwillia> | for sure |
| 23:31:36
| <wiwillia> | who likes paying for things up front? |
| 23:31:37
| <wiwillia> | no one |
| 23:33:04
| <SubStack> | ryan_stevens: it's like how airbnb sold obama Os and cap'n mccain |
| 23:33:48
| <pkrumins> | 13 shirts! |
| 23:35:23
| <niftylettuce> | 14 |
| 23:35:36
| <pkrumins> | o/ |
| 23:37:35
| <pkrumins> | 17! |
| 23:38:27
| <pkrumins> | 21! |
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| 23:39:39
| <wiwillia> | pkrumins when Browserling is as big as Airbnb - are you going to tell people how you self-funded through Teespring?! |
| 23:40:22
| <chapel> | lol |
| 23:40:39
| <pkrumins> | haha yup. |
| 23:41:15
| <pkrumins> | 25! |
| 23:42:20
| <SubStack> | wiwillia: I'll write a book about my wacky adventures |
| 23:42:54
| <SubStack> | it will also teach javascript why not |
| 23:42:58
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: if I want to cc teespring, should I then use @teespring_? |
| 23:43:00
| <pkrumins> | just confirming |
| 23:43:01
| <chapel> | http://geekli.st/chapel/micro/8286 |
| 23:43:07
| <pkrumins> | SubStack: :D |
| 23:43:09
| <wiwillia> | yeah |
| 23:43:10
| <wiwillia> | for sure |
| 23:43:21
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: responding to this https://twitter.com/#!/lilconga/status/178264172700766208 |
| 23:43:38
| <wiwillia> | yeah we ship everywhere |
| 23:43:44
| <wiwillia> | we had to remove Iran and North Korea, but DHL ships to both |
| 23:43:50
| <wiwillia> | 4-8 days as well |
| 23:43:54
| <wiwillia> | for $5 |
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| <pkrumins> | NICE |
| 23:44:26
| <wiwillia> | tipped |
| 23:44:42
| <pkrumins> | 30 shirts now |
| 23:45:17
| <wiwillia> | We should add an update |
| 23:45:21
| <wiwillia> | encouraging people to keep buying |
| 23:45:26
| <pkrumins> | what does that mean? |
| 23:45:26
| <wiwillia> | to the description |
| 23:45:33
| <pkrumins> | can we increase the goal? |
| 23:45:37
| <wiwillia> | we can keep selling |
| 23:45:40
| <wiwillia> | they can still buy |
| 23:45:43
| <wiwillia> | for a week |
| 23:45:49
| <wiwillia> | but its nice to add an update saying "keep buying" |
| 23:45:52
| <pkrumins> | oh yeah defs. |
| 23:46:09
| <pkrumins> | what about after the week is over, i bet this post will generate sales continously |
| 23:46:17
| <wiwillia> | UPDATE: We reached our goal in under an hour! Now let's see how much we can beat it by! |
| 23:46:23
| <pkrumins> | can we set another campaign up then and keep setting the up all the time? |
| 23:46:24
| <wiwillia> | you can relaunch the campaign |
| 23:46:26
| <wiwillia> | yeah |
| 23:46:29
| <pkrumins> | AWESOME |
| 23:46:29
| <wiwillia> | 28 days |
| 23:46:30
| <LOUDBOT> | YEAH TURN MY DIALS PLEASE TOES |
| 23:46:38
| <pkrumins> | pkrumins: sounds good, let's add an update |
| 23:46:44
| <pkrumins> | emm |
| 23:46:48
| <pkrumins> | wiwillia: sounds good, let's add an update |
| 23:46:51
| <wiwillia> | talking to yourself again eh!? |
| 23:46:57
| <wiwillia> | added |
| 23:46:58
| <wiwillia> | check it out |
| 23:47:35
| <pkrumins> | seeing it |
| 23:47:43
| <pkrumins> | looks good |
| 23:48:24
| <chapel> | wiwillia: why not have a feature that lets the shirt keep selling indefinitely? |
| 23:48:34
| <chapel> | like once its been proven, it could be added to a store front |
| 23:48:39
| <chapel> | or just be continuous? |
| 23:49:00
| <chapel> | or is it due to cost of doing individual ones, and its cheaper to do bulk ones? |
| 23:49:10
| <SubStack> | probably the economics only work out in batch mode |
| 23:49:16
| <chapel> | yeah |
| 23:49:22
| <SubStack> | but maybe some sort of auto-renewal would be sweet |
| 23:49:40
| <chapel> | or, maybe there have to be at least 30 before a shipment goes out |
| 23:49:44
| <SubStack> | yeah |
| 23:49:45
| <SubStack> | buckets! |
| 23:49:47
| <chapel> | yep |
| 23:49:54
| <chapel> | and it just continues to roll over |
| 23:49:56
| <ryan_stevens> | substack: pkrumins: when people ask how many paying users you have, the calculation must Paying Browserling Users + Paying Testling Users + People who've paid for T-Shirts |
| 23:49:59
| <chapel> | if in continuous mode |
| 23:50:01
| <wiwillia> | we can only hold the credit cards for 28 days |
| 23:50:11
| <SubStack> | ryan_stevens: indeed! |
| 23:50:21
| <chapel> | wiwillia: well, have the buckets reset after 28 days |
| 23:50:38
| <wiwillia> | chapel: not a bad idea at all |
| 23:50:52
| <SubStack> | wiwillia: maybe you could just have it so that anybody could reopen a shirt design |
| 23:50:55
| <chapel> | and if it doesn't go through once or twice, then stop it, and tell the owner |
| 23:50:57
| <wiwillia> | chapel: when we deal with enterprise clients, they always ask us to do their storefront as well |
| 23:51:24
| <chapel> | Your payment of $18.8533 has been processed |
| 23:51:26
| <chapel> | interesting |
| 23:51:31
| <chapel> | $18.8533 |
| 23:51:36
| <pkrumins> | st_luke: +1 :) |
| 23:51:46
| <wiwillia> | chapel what was that for?! |
| 23:51:51
| <wiwillia> | that's not good |
| 23:51:53
| <chapel> | from the teespring email |
| 23:52:01
| <wiwillia> | hmmm |
| 23:52:02
| <st_luke> | w00t |
| 23:52:06
| <wiwillia> | checking it now |
| 23:52:21
| <pkrumins> | 34 shirts! |
| 23:52:24
| <st_luke> | pkrumins: sick! |
| 23:52:30
| <st_luke> | this one looks awesome |
| 23:52:39
| <st_luke> | and I can't wait for the oaktown js one |
| 23:52:39
| <pkrumins> | yah |
| 23:52:49
| <pkrumins> | ends today! |
| 23:53:01
| <SubStack> | oakjs ended yesterday |
| 23:53:10
| <wiwillia> | speaking of which |
| 23:53:23
| <SubStack> | or rather, early today |
| 23:53:35
| <chapel> | wiwillia http://cl.ly/19073m19092b1O2t1J0C |
| 23:54:53
| * tilgovi | quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 23:54:53
| <pkrumins> | 35 |
| 23:55:01
| <wiwillia> | chapel our fault, the base price for whatever reason ended up as $15.0003 in the DB - fixed it |
| 23:55:57
| <ryan_stevens> | has chapel exposed a diabolical plot to steal fractions of a penny? |
| 23:56:20
| <SubStack> | wiwillia: also pretty sure when I sent pkrumins a shirt internationally from my US card it only charged ~$3 for shipping, not $5 |
| 23:56:50
| <pkrumins> | it was $3.85 or something like that |
| 23:56:56
| <SubStack> | that's that one |
| 23:56:58
| <wiwillia> | hmmm it should have figured it out - are you sure? |
| 23:57:06
| <pkrumins> | yup |
| 23:57:07
| <wiwillia> | Let me file a bug |
| 23:57:09
| <ryan_stevens> | true story, I used to write core software to run banks and credit unions. The fist thing i did when I checked out the code base on my first day is to find where all the fractions of the pennies go. I wasn't going to steal them, but I like having the "option" to steal them. |
| 23:57:12
| <wiwillia> | prsn: are you hearing this?! haha |
| 23:57:24
| <pkrumins> | Shipping $3.85 |
| 23:57:26
| <ryan_stevens> | I was bumbed when I found out banks just use simple rounding (which makes sense) |
| 23:57:30
| <pkrumins> | Total $18.85 |
| 23:58:17
| <SubStack> | ryan_stevens: bwahaha awesome |
| 23:58:47
| <ryan_stevens> | substack: I was pretty upset. So many great movies were based on shaving off fractions of pennies |
| 23:58:49
| <ryan_stevens> | sneakers |
| 23:58:53
| <ryan_stevens> | superman 3 |
| 23:58:56
| <ryan_stevens> | office space |