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01:32:04  <jesusabdullah>SubStack: I remembered what the macro thing was about
01:32:07  <jesusabdullah>SubStack: g-code
01:32:15  <jesusabdullah>SubStack: but I think the better approach is lisp macros
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01:46:18  <SubStack>g-code?
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02:56:56  <jesusabdullah>SubStack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ4cZTQG5Cc
02:57:08  <jesusabdullah>SubStack: but seriously, it's what cnc machines usually talk
02:57:26  <jesusabdullah>It's old and more like an encoding than a programming language in some ways
02:57:53  <SubStack>neat
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04:34:54  <st_luke>holy crap, taco conf is in less than 2 weeks
04:36:20  <SubStack>FACT
04:36:29  <SubStack>mikeal: should the taco have the date or no?
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04:48:47  <mikeal>hrm...
04:48:51  <mikeal>i think it's fine without
04:50:24  <SubStack>well here's one with the date http://substack.net/images/taco_conf_date.png
04:50:49  <SubStack>and the vector has everything http://substack.net/images/taco.svg
04:52:16  <SubStack>so now I am going home to draw a taco truck
04:52:58  <SubStack>then I'll do programming things
04:53:38  <SubStack>and then tomorrow is going to be a crazy carnival downtown so I'll bike down to check that out
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05:25:18  <devaholic>good nodeup show doods
05:28:40  <SubStack>\o/
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05:55:54  <st_luke>what can be greater than golf with a gator
05:57:19  <SubStack>hungry hungry hippos is what
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07:40:44  <SubStack>dnode fandango is now online too http://2011.krtconf.com/videos/james_halliday
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08:19:03  <Altreus>hey kits what's in between faye and socket.io for long polling?
08:22:17  <SubStack>what sort of thing do you need?
08:24:28  <Altreus>I don't think we need even multiple channels
08:24:31  <Altreus>just something to push with
08:24:51  <Altreus>although multiple channels would be handy in other ways
08:25:08  <SubStack>there's socksjs
08:25:14  <SubStack>it's just websockets with fallbacks
08:25:16  <SubStack>and nothing else
08:25:40  <SubStack>you can also do streaming http in the browser
08:25:48  <SubStack>with just xhr
08:25:55  <Altreus>I can?
08:25:59  <SubStack>yeps
08:26:12  <SubStack>this lib makes it easy: https://github.com/substack/http-browserify
08:26:28  <SubStack>check out the streaming example https://github.com/substack/http-browserify/tree/master/example/streaming
08:35:21  <Altreus>SubStack: pretty simple
08:35:23  <Altreus>does it play doom
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09:06:37  <SubStack>well it displays dooooooom
09:06:42  <SubStack>so that's like playing
09:06:47  <SubStack>like playing a tape
09:22:14  <Altreus>SubStack: meow. er your index.html references a file not in the directory
09:22:35  <SubStack>generate it with browserify
09:22:39  <Altreus>ok
09:22:59  <SubStack>browserify main.js -o browserify.js
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09:23:05  <Altreus>oic
09:24:15  <Altreus>I made my own scrollorama thing but it uses functions of T instead of vector paths https://github.com/propcom/propscroll
09:24:34  <Altreus>a vector path can of course be generalised as a function of t
09:24:39  <Altreus>so that's good
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10:01:07  <Altreus>Pleased to see routing is now builtin to connect
10:41:32  <Altreus>SubStack: so is it the app.use(bundle) that lets the browserify.js reference actually get a script?
10:48:21  <Altreus>SubStack: Don't fully grok how one would push... presumably simply by not calling res.end?
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11:16:50  <Altreus>darn I don't want to reimplement channels, but faye doesn't work with connect any more
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13:23:35  <yorick>great, more bugs
13:23:46  <yorick>function s(){}; t.equal(s, s) -> fails.
13:26:26  <yorick>in fact, s == s fails
13:27:00  <yorick>hm, not entirely true
13:27:02  <yorick>only when I pass it
13:27:57  <yorick>function s(){};function cmp(a ,b) { return a == b};t.ok(cmp(s, s)) // fails.
13:28:00  <yorick>SubStack: ^
13:37:10  <yorick>I'd rather not have stack traces if they lead to magic bugs
13:37:16  <yorick>and wrap functions when you return them
13:37:24  <yorick>or pass them
13:38:17  <yorick>it also makes me unable to remove event listeners
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14:33:50  <pkrumins>published a blog post about node quines http://www.catonmat.net/blog/quine-in-node/
14:39:55  <yorick>quines that read themselves don't count
14:40:03  <yorick>(at least I think so)
14:40:09  <yorick>also, an empty file is pretty much a quine
14:40:58  <pkrumins>yeah they don't
14:47:34  <yorick>so testling is pretty much useless for me atm (only 1-2 browsers will work at a time, can't compare html nodes by default, can't compare functions because they change when they are passed, can't remove event listeners because of that)
14:47:42  <yorick>error messages that are way off and confusing
14:48:19  <pkrumins>that sucks
14:49:12  <yorick>no local tests on node 0.6
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15:48:01  <isaacs>http://int3.github.com/doppio/about.html
15:48:21  <isaacs>THERE ARE AT LEAST A GILLION THINGS WRONG WITH THIS PROJECT
15:48:21  <LOUDBOT>IF YOU WANT TO FUCK LITTLE BOYS IN THE ASS
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17:52:21  <yorick>how do you manage your deps? personally I use npm and then update by doing git pull && npm up
17:52:32  <yorick>but I feel like I could just include the deps in the git repo
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18:00:07  <yorick>are you guys profitable yet?
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18:26:50  <guybrush>yorick: i put deps which are located in the git-repo into bundledDependencies - works like a charm https://github.com/isaacs/npm/blob/master/doc/cli/json.md#bundleddependencies
18:27:14  <guybrush>though i bundle only patched stuff
18:34:14  <yorick>guybrush: my deps mostly aren't patched
18:35:05  <guybrush>i think its totally cool to just put the modules into git, i like it
18:35:50  <guybrush>i am not doing it with everything because its too much effort for me to keep those git-repos in sync :p
18:36:34  <guybrush>i even used git-submodules for some time - works really good, though its way more effort than just managing a package.json
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23:05:57  <st_luke_>just got the email about taco conf, I'm speechless
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