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05:35:58  <SubStack>https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/bd90717 ^_^
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07:40:34  <jesusabdullah>I just learned that the networkManager applet has a cli interface
07:40:48  <jesusabdullah>http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/nmcli.1.html
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18:44:26  <SubStack>:D
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18:58:17  <yorick>SubStack: the subscription model in seaport is a bit confusing, since it doesn't listen to once/removeListener, but only to .on
18:58:34  <SubStack>oh true!
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18:58:55  <yorick>documentation is a bit misleading on that too:
18:58:55  <yorick>"ports acts like a regular EventEmitter except that data won't be sent for remote events until you start listening for them."
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19:00:10  <yorick>I think I would prefer it to internally use the EventEmitter on the seaport client for serverside events
19:00:57  <yorick>if I had any time I would try and make seaport a bit more decentralized, but I have exams the next three weeks :/
19:01:19  <SubStack>it can get really inefficient passing all messages around though
19:01:34  <SubStack>so it needs some way to say what messages you want to subscribe to
19:02:19  <yorick>I think queries would be far more common than allocate/free
19:02:43  <yorick>so it would make sense to keep a local registry everywhere
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19:14:48  <yorick>SubStack: ports.free() does not remove it from allocated.
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19:25:35  <yorick>https://github.com/substack/seaport/issues/6 <-- issue :/
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21:07:36  <yorick>rowbit's clock seems to be a bit off
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21:08:20  <yorick>offset 51.199888 sec <-- and mine too :/
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21:27:37  <wiwillia>yo substack/pkrumins you guys sponsor Hackers & Founders?
21:28:51  <pkrumins>not really, we're just good friends with them
21:29:51  <wiwillia>pkrumins oh sweet
21:36:17  <SubStack>yeps!
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21:51:52  <guybrush>THE EVIL IS BACK!
21:51:52  <LOUDBOT>THE MORE YOU KNOW: GOOGLE DOODLES USUALLY INCLUDE A HIDDEN TRIFORCE
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23:17:56  <maxogden>need advice on a name
23:18:07  <maxogden>its basically https://github.com/visionmedia/uikit but for building mobile apps
23:18:16  <SubStack>uikitten
23:18:31  <SubStack>straykit
23:18:38  <maxogden>ahahaha
23:18:52  <maxogden>ok wait
23:18:56  <maxogden>what is better
23:18:58  <maxogden>mexican food modules
23:18:59  <maxogden>or cat modules
23:19:03  <SubStack>yes
23:19:43  <SubStack>alleycat
23:19:53  <SubStack>alleycat - it's a ui kitten for mobile
23:20:05  <chapel>mobkitty
23:20:16  <chapel>hobocat
23:20:18  <chapel>hobokitty
23:20:27  <SubStack>+1 hobokitty
23:20:36  <maxogden>haha
23:21:13  <dools>mobile apps or mobile web?
23:21:24  <maxogden>yes
23:21:52  <SubStack>idea: hook picture-tube into flickr, yielding kitten-tube
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23:22:00  <dools>you mean you're building a single ui kit for both native and web based mobile applications?
23:22:18  <maxogden>dools: you are assuming native !== web based
23:22:24  <maxogden>dools: but yes, i am
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23:23:05  <dools>yes i am assuming that (one uses html/css etc. and the other uses objective whatever the fuck and android biscuits)
23:23:25  <dools>sticking a web page inside an html viewer and running it natively isn't the same as a native ui library
23:23:48  <maxogden>that depends
23:24:00  <maxogden>i dont like broad generalizations like that :)
23:24:28  <maxogden>well
23:24:42  <maxogden>i agree that assertion is correct but i dont agree that it 'isnt native'
23:25:11  <dools>well, for the purpose of brevity one relies on accepted vernacular when discussing these things
23:27:14  <maxogden>for the purpose of pedantics i reject accepted vernacular when necessary :)
23:27:58  <maxogden>but basically, to answer your original question, my code always runs inside a webview
23:29:11  <dools>viewkit(ten)
23:29:54  <maxogden>ooh nice
23:30:02  <SubStack>haha
23:30:11  <SubStack>viewkitten!
23:30:26  <maxogden>all of the examples will use cat photos
23:30:28  <maxogden>brilliant!
23:30:28  <SubStack>also: hobokit(ten)
23:30:41  <SubStack>ten cat pictures
23:35:28  <dools>haha
23:52:28  <maxogden>SubStack: considering a simple `browserify -r events -o index.js`: https://gist.github.com/2698151
23:52:46  <maxogden>SubStack: it appears i can essentially take lines 0-346 and split them into 'require.js' or something
23:53:10  <maxogden>SubStack: and take 346 - 520 and put them in 'eventemitter.js' or something
23:53:43  <maxogden>SubStack: is that accurate?
23:53:52  <SubStack>pow https://github.com/substack/node-fritter
23:54:09  <SubStack>maxogden: sure
23:54:14  <SubStack>there's also --no-prelude
23:54:19  <SubStack>so you could do
23:54:20  <maxogden>oh cool
23:54:24  <maxogden>is there --only-prelude
23:54:30  <SubStack>just do
23:54:43  <SubStack>browserify <(echo '') > prelude.js
23:55:03  <maxogden><\('')/>
23:55:34  <SubStack>browserify -r events --no-prelude > events.js
23:55:39  <SubStack>that should get you both of the things
23:55:41  <SubStack>separately
23:55:42  <maxogden>cool
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