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02:52:28  <niftylettuce>FIRE THE UPBOATS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
02:52:29  <LOUDBOT>BUY SOME GODDAMN LAND
02:53:47  <niftylettuce>chapel devaholic dools elliottcable guybrush jesusabdullah maxogden paul_irish rook2pawn pkrumins sorensen SubStack tanepiper yorick -> plz upboat "Show HN: Send postcards with Node.js & Sincerely (makers of Postagram)" -- it under "New" at http://news.ycombinator.com/newest
02:55:12  <chapel>dead
02:56:35  <niftylettuce>chapel: you mean this channel is dead or the link is?
02:58:44  <chapel>link
02:58:54  <chapel>http://cl.ly/image/323q2u141i12
02:59:58  <niftylettuce>it works OK now
03:00:02  <niftylettuce>prob cuz I was renaming the title
03:09:41  <devaholic>done did it
03:12:21  <devaholic>its on the front page
03:12:38  <niftylettuce>devaholic: wooooo :D
03:12:47  <niftylettuce>devaholic: all cuz o u! <3 <3 *tears*
03:13:06  <devaholic>i dunno if it was me
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04:55:19  <niftylettuce>thx for upboats everyone \o gnite
04:55:47  <ik>boats
05:13:40  <Raynos>SubStack: https://github.com/Raynos/browserify-server
05:13:49  <Raynos>because browserify demo servers have TOO MUCH BOILERPLATE
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05:13:53  <Raynos>MAKE ALL THE THINGS EASIER
05:13:53  <LOUDBOT>SHUTUP DOWN THERE SIXERS YOU LOUD FUCKS
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05:32:26  <Raynos>dominictarr: another mdm race condition
05:33:00  <Raynos>on the client buffer up three mdm data messages, on the server receive one, close that stream, then receive the next one, then crash because the mdm id is no longer there because that stream ended.
05:37:07  <Raynos>SubStack: https://github.com/Raynos/seaport-proxy/tree/master/examples/upnode upnode example for seaport-proxy
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06:02:04  <SubStack>woot
06:04:15  <SubStack>isaacs: still getting engines field bugs from people with old npms :(
06:50:58  <SubStack>Raynos: might make more sense to have browserify-server be a cli tool
06:51:09  <SubStack>then you don't need to write the browserify-server boilerplate
06:51:34  <Raynos>SubStack: I should totally do that!
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07:14:53  <Raynos>SubStack: https://github.com/Raynos/browserify-server#example-cli
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07:46:50  <Raynos>SubStack: https://github.com/Raynos/seaport-stream#example-client
07:47:06  <Raynos>because dealing with IO is boring. Stream all the things!
07:47:25  <Raynos>SubStack: https://github.com/Raynos/seaport-proxy#client-example
07:47:38  <Raynos>Using seaport-stream and other refactoring makes the seaport-proxy examples super simple!
07:47:56  <Raynos>it also means seaport-proxy & seaport-stream have the same APis
07:52:56  <SubStack>yow: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/08/realtime-gets-100-million-to-build-whole-new-era-of-the-internet-aka-the-real-time-web/
08:05:01  <devaholic>Parreira says that many people have talked about the real-time web, but generally in abstract terms. �Realtime is the first company building a tangible framework that will make that abstraction a reality. We did not create a product. We created an industry,� he boldly proclaims. �Real-time will be the foundation of the next web, the modern era of the web, or, if you want, �web 3.0,� and I think it�s really going to impa
08:05:01  <devaholic>ct a lot of businesses.�
08:05:05  <devaholic>hahahhahahahahahah
08:06:44  <SubStack>full duplex: not actually a new thing
08:06:49  <devaholic>1,000 signups, $100,000,000, what could go wrong
08:06:53  <SubStack>yep
08:06:57  <SubStack>100k per signup!
08:07:48  <devaholic>i think socket.io has had more developer participation than meteor + this company combined, how sad
08:08:22  <devaholic>not that learnboost doesnt have a lot of cash for themselves either
08:09:00  <SubStack>dunno it's just really easy to build this stuff now, I don't see the competitive advantage of it
08:10:18  <devaholic>its not as easy for newbs as jquery is yet, perhaps
08:10:22  <devaholic>i tried to fix that one time
08:10:36  <SubStack>plus: business is weird
08:10:39  <devaholic>no one gave me millions :(
08:10:54  <SubStack>especially big companies that sell to other big companies
08:14:06  <devaholic>erroneous bug fix attempts from other humans, and others capitalizing on those attempts, such cases
08:41:56  <Raynos>Whats special about that company?
08:47:17  <SubStack>blarg running into an annoying thing with yarnify where it puts a container around html files that only have a single element
08:47:33  <SubStack>should only need to do that when there are multiple elements
08:48:56  <devaholic>SubStack: seek investment money so you can solve this problem
08:49:06  <devaholic>Raynos: nothing � as far as i can see
08:49:21  <SubStack>devaholic: haha
08:50:11  <SubStack>well if the going rate is $100k per beta user surely I can drag some people off the street to go make accounts
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10:00:18  <SubStack>this is frustrating: parent class prefixes are incompatible with single-element containers :(
10:14:54  <devaholic>i told you to seek investors
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12:49:05  <SubStack>yay
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14:22:51  <isaacs>SubStack: The sins of our past never forget u.
14:22:53  <isaacs>*us
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19:49:55  <dominictarr>SubStack, jesusabdullah Raynos check this out: http://www.webcrunchers.com/stories/easywriter.html
19:50:15  <dominictarr>EasyWriter must be the most badass text editor ever written.
19:50:49  <Raynos>dominictarr: I'm tempted to write an event emitter abstraction on top of MDM
19:50:57  <Raynos>basically using one stream for each event name.
19:51:02  <dominictarr>it was Raynos I already have one
19:51:06  <Raynos>dominictarr: is this sensible? has this been done before?
19:51:17  <dominictarr>just use RemoteEventEmitter
19:51:26  <dominictarr>https://npm.im/remote-events
19:52:03  <dominictarr>it's a stream, so just write whatever abstraction to use a stream, --> maximize flexibility.
19:52:24  <Raynos>dominictarr: does it allow multiple named event emitters?
19:52:37  <Raynos>oh interesting
19:52:42  <Raynos>this should be easy to do now
19:52:49  <dominictarr>no, but you can just use mux-demux for that part.
19:53:34  <Raynos>sweet!
20:10:33  <tanepiper>oh wow, marak got butthurt and ragequit twitter :D
20:11:44  <dominictarr>tanepiper, don't worry. he's joined again.
20:13:02  <tanepiper>the rapping nodester
20:14:38  <dominictarr>only now he's known as "zombie_marak"
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21:24:26  <tanepiper>@maraksquires parody account?
21:27:53  <dominictarr>that would be pretty funny, but I'm too lazy.
21:29:29  <chapel>not sure whats up?
21:42:23  <tanepiper>Marak got butthurt at TJ and isaacs
21:42:46  <tanepiper>Ragequit twitter like an Eve n00b being blown up in lo-sec
21:47:07  <dominictarr>marak needs a holiday.
22:13:17  <SubStack>so many streams
22:20:55  <ik>c/,,\
22:45:25  <dominictarr>SubStack, did you see this: http://www.webcrunchers.com/stories/easywriter.html
22:46:38  <SubStack>yep
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23:30:14  <dominictarr>SubStack, new startup idea: ascii instagram
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23:32:35  <dominictarr>https://github.com/rvagg/CAPSLOCKSCRIPT/issues/4
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