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| <thatguydan> | Is there a reliable way to get the number of open connections in a dnode server? |
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| <thatguydan> | just .connections()? |
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| <thatguydan> | server._servers.forEach(function(s){ count+=s.connections }) -- apparently |
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| <substack> | you could maintain a count in your listeners less hackishly |
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| <maxogden> | substack: have you seen https://codeclimate.com/ e.g. https://codeclimate.com/github/smartlogic/http_spec |
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| <Raynos> | substack, maxogden: https://gist.github.com/3444834 |
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| <Raynos> | do you have any API change recommendations |
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| <Raynos> | Does anyone have a stream that buffers writes ? |
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| <Raynos> | but is duplex (not through) |
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| <Raynos> | substack: https://gist.github.com/3445243 |
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| <Raynos> | shoe doesn't need to buffer anymore. Just tell people to wrap it in a BufferStream |
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| <rowbit> | /!\ ATTENTION: (default-local) [email protected] successfully signed up for developer browserling plan ($20). Cash money! /!\ |
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| <Raynos> | substack: https://github.com/Raynos/buffer-stream/blob/master/example/reconnect.js This reminds me of what upnode does |
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| <Raynos> | substack, isaacs: when can I remove deprecated or renamed modules from npm? (Even if the rename is a typo?) |
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| <Raynos> | substack: https://github.com/rassie/jessie if you ever need a function to do some front end shit, steal it from jessie |
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| <substack> | yay signups |
| 06:06:54
| <substack> | Raynos: with a ping stream and mux-demux you'd be pretty close |
| 06:07:18
| <Raynos> | why does upnode need mux-demux ? |
| 06:07:52
| <substack> | not what I said |
| 06:08:21
| <substack> | your reconnect.js would be more like upnode if it was paired with a stream that did keep alives over a secondary stream |
| 06:09:42
| <Raynos> | Oh I see |
| 06:09:56
| <Raynos> | I don't think keep alive's are needed |
| 06:10:01
| <Raynos> | you just listen on the end and close events |
| 06:10:14
| <Raynos> | The thing is dead when the stream closes |
| 06:11:39
| <substack> | sometimes connections stay alive but don't receive data anymore |
| 06:11:51
| <Raynos> | When would that be? |
| 06:11:58
| <substack> | this happens infrequently but in a long-running system can kill the whole system |
| 06:12:14
| <substack> | networks shit themselves |
| 06:26:03
| <Raynos> | I see |
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| <Raynos> | what would be a good streaming implementation of a list state |
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| <Raynos> | The hardest part about code is naming the damned library |
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| <Raynos> | isaacs: how do you handle circular npm dependencies? |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: https://github.com/Raynos/discovery-network/blob/master/example/direct/static/index.js |
| 07:38:02
| <Raynos> | Opening direct connections is a bit weird |
| 07:38:11
| <Raynos> | Also the names of all these components are retarded |
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| <maxogden> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X16G2hsVI9w |
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| <maxogden> | substack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJJAmerplk&feature=relmfu |
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| <substack> | maxogden: you should build a wearable drumset |
| 08:42:32
| <maxogden> | yes |
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| <maxogden> | haha i just used my megaphone to scare off someone who was tagging a van parked outside my house |
| 08:48:05
| <maxogden> | GET OFF MY LAWN |
| 08:48:06
| <LOUDBOT> | WHEN I TOLD MY DAD I MIGHT BE A GOOD CAR BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE MY LIFE EASIER, AND THEN I STUCK MY HAM UP HER BACKPACK AND LEFT. A STUPID, CHISELED, PERFECT ROCK. GOD DAMN HIM. STEELY GLARE. (WHY WOULD YOU SUCK? KRRRLSON'S OR AZHRUWI'S? |
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| <substack> | haha |
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| <substack> | Nexxy: wow for fuck's sake your troll is dedicated |
| 11:38:31
| <Nexxy> | very. |
| 11:38:34
| <Nexxy> | lol |
| 11:38:47
| <Nexxy> | it's hilarious |
| 11:38:54
| <Nexxy> | either he or github deleted his troll account |
| 11:39:13
| <Nexxy> | and now somehow I'm a magical hacker |
| 11:39:20
| <Nexxy> | that can delete other people's gist comments and git accounts |
| 11:39:24
| <Nexxy> | \o/ |
| 11:39:36
| * Nexxy | WAVES HER HANDS AND ALTERS YOUR PERCEPTION |
| 11:39:38
| <LOUDBOT> | HAY GUIES. LEWELLYN ADMITTED TO SUCKING COCKS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. SO STOP SENDING HIM WOMEN, AND START SENDING HIM RON JEREMY COSPLAYERS! |
| 11:39:39
| <substack> | probably a ton of people mashed "report abuse" on his account |
| 11:39:46
| <Nexxy> | yeah |
| 11:39:55
| <Nexxy> | I just wish I had screen shotted the entire thread prior |
| 11:40:23
| <Nexxy> | LOUDBOT Y U SO DIRTY |
| 11:40:23
| <LOUDBOT> | ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: MISLEADING STATEMENTS REGARDING CAKE AVAILABILITY LEVELS |
| 11:40:35
| <Nexxy> | YOU TOO, HUH?! |
| 11:41:24
| <substack> | LOUDBOT IS A WINDOW INTO THE FETIT BRAINS OF PEOPLE WHO TYPE IN CAPS |
| 11:41:24
| <LOUDBOT> | WTF IS GOING ON HERE |
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| <substack> | is why |
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| <Nexxy> | I MEAN I AM PRETTY GOOD WITH CAPS AND EVERYTHING BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO LABEL MY BRAIN AS FETID |
| 11:42:03
| <LOUDBOT> | THEY SAY THIS CAT SHAFT IS A BAD MUTHA |
| 11:42:19
| <Nexxy> | oh wow that's an amazing mental image |
| 11:44:27
| <substack> | WHAT A LOAD OF FETIT DINGO'S KIDNEYS |
| 11:44:28
| <LOUDBOT> | SOME DAY WE'LL HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY |
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| <guybrush> | substack: i am doing cp.spawn now instead of using the bfy-middleware :D `cp.spawn('./node_modules/.bin/browserify','-e client/x.js -o client/bundle.js --watch --debug'.split(' '))` |
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| <substack> | that works! |
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| <substack> | nearly the same as using the non-middleware api |
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| <pikpik> | pkrumins: Thanks for writing your AWK guides! "Famous Awk One-Liners Explained, Part III: Selective Printing and Deleting of Certain Lines" rocks! |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, http://npm.im/invert-stream |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, new mux-demux feature https://github.com/dominictarr/mux-demux/#closecb |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: I have a good idea of what a delta-stream is |
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| <Raynos> | How should I handle a list-stream. I.e. the stream format of crdt.Set |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: https://github.com/Raynos/discovery-network/blob/master/example/direct/static/index.js |
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| <Raynos> | Opening direct connections is a pain in the ass |
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| <Raynos> | Someone has a module for turning an object into an array of key value pair |
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| <Raynos> | where is that module ._. |
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| <substack> | npm install alists |
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| <substack> | > require('alists').toList({a:1,b:2}) |
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| <substack> | [ [ 'a', 1 ], [ 'b', 2 ] ] |
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| <substack> | Raynos: http://2012.jsconf.eu/speaker/2012/08/24/to-hell-with-jquery.html |
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| <Raynos> | substack: hell yeah, I was looking for alists |
| 19:27:38
| <Raynos> | couldn't find the damned thing |
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| <Raynos> | substack, isaacs: Not being able to find what I want on npm is frustrating, knowing exactly what I want and not being able to find it because I forgot the name is incredibly frustrating |
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| <Raynos> | I even knew it was written by jesusabdullah and couldn't find it on his github page :/ |
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| <Raynos> | The npm search problem is a problem |
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| <Raynos> | substack: browserifies watch bug is a shame. If it worked it would be super sweet |
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| <Raynos> | substack: https://github.com/substack/upnode/blob/master/index.js#L241 not cool |
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| <Raynos> | I need those errors for debugging |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: https://gist.github.com/7d0def381130bbc1c4ab |
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| <dominictarr> | you must implement a list as merely a "bag" of key:value objects. |
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| <dominictarr> | you have to do it only by setting key:value pairs. |
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| <dominictarr> | if you use list indexes, you've gotta track the histroy of the list... and that is quite complicated. |
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| <dominictarr> | does that make sense? |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: well a delta-stream is just that a bag of key:value objects. which matches a crdt.Row nicely |
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| <Raynos> | I'm looking for something that matches a crdt.Set nicely and just emits removal and addision |
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| <Raynos> | I dont care about changes of those values |
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| <Raynos> | just whether they are in the set or not |
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| <Raynos> | its not a stream for over the network |
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| <Raynos> | its just an in memory stream between components inside one process |
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| <dominictarr> | well, all that defines a crdt.Set is a particular key, say "type" is set to a particular value say "fruit", then every object that has type=fruit is in the set. |
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| <dominictarr> | when changes from ^[fruit] to fruit then it's an 'add', when it goes the other way... then it's remove |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: I know, but the information I care about is the inclusion or removal of the set, so that I can pipe it into an stream representing an ul and remove or add lis |
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| <dominictarr> | so, you want a stream of add/remove events? |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: yes |
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| <Raynos> | and I want to think of a sensible stream data format for that so I can make other people consume it |
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| <dominictarr> | I like arrays |
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| <dominictarr> | [key, value, timestamp, etc] |
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| <dominictarr> | cos then you can get the array and do func.apply(null, array) |
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| <dominictarr> | and it's minimum extra chars if you want to stringify it |
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| <dominictarr> | guess you'd have ['add', object] |
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| <dominictarr> | ['remove', object] |
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| <dominictarr> | maybe add timestamps too. |
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| <Raynos> | yeah\ |
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| <Raynos> | that seems good |
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| <Raynos> | what about delta-stream |
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| <Raynos> | I was thinking { key: value, key2: value2 } |
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| <dominictarr> | is it just updates to a single object? or a collection of objects? |
| 22:24:49
| <dominictarr> | that is what crdt uses basicall |
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| <Raynos> | updates to a single object |
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| <Raynos> | updates to a collection of objects will use crdt's [key, value, timestamp, etc] |
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| <dominictarr> | that works then |
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| <dominictarr> | cool. |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: I want to parse this format using JSONStream ( https://mixpanel.com/docs/api-documentation/exporting-raw-data-you-inserted-into-mixpanel ) |
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| <Raynos> | It's new line deliminated valid JSON objects |
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| <dominictarr> | you'll need timestamps too, if there are more than two nodes communicating, ever. |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: [{ deltas }, timestamp] ? |
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| <dominictarr> | yeah, and source if you ever want to do validation. but I guess it's easy to add extras to an array. |
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| <dominictarr> | well, depending on what you are planning to do with it. |
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| <Raynos> | true |
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| <Raynos> | Back to JSONStream |
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| <dominictarr> | I havn't tried to do validation yet, I've just thought about it a little bit |
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| <Raynos> | how would I pass in that data into it? |
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| <dominictarr> | oh, it's newline delimited json? |
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| <dominictarr> | use event-stream.parse instead. |
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| <dominictarr> | & event-stream.split() |
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| <dominictarr> | JSONStream can't do newline delimited json. |
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| <dominictarr> | you'd need to patch creationix's json-parse-stream |
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| <Raynos> | What if I just put a stream splitter in front of it |
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| <Raynos> | and then emit them one object at a time |
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| <Raynos> | that would work |
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| <Raynos> | but I dont really need the streaming parser |
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| <Raynos> | as the actual json is small |
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| <Raynos> | the data is returned in chunked format :D |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, yeah, I hardly ever use JSONStream. if I control the source and the dest, I just make it newline seperated. |
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| <dominictarr> | way simpler. |
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| <Raynos> | Agreed |
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| <Raynos> | substack: Do you have a module for the "cached event emitter" pattern ( https://github.com/Colingo/mixpanel-ui/blob/master/login/index.js#L25 ) |
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| <devaholic> | mixpanel ui? |
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| <Raynos> | devaholic: Yes |
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| <devaholic> | is that like a custom dashboard? |
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| <Raynos> | https://gist.github.com/3457150 |
| 23:28:41
| <Raynos> | Is there a better name for that function |
| 23:28:46
| <Raynos> | or is there a module that does that |
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| <Raynos> | devaholic: It's a custom graph app to build custom graphs for our very specific needs |
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